Competitive StarCraft: Brood War happening in 10 mins; it's the quarterfinals of Afreeca Starleague (ASL) Season 21!We have one of the most hype matchups in the quarterfinals here: JD (Z) vs Light (T)Korean livestream: https://play.sooplive.com/afstar1English livestream: https://play.sooplive.com/dth03119Liquipedia page:https://liquipedia.net/starcraft/ASL/21
REAL TALK: I do think that JD is favoured purely because of how strong he's been in the ro24 and ro 16, but I also genuinely think Light is one of the very few Terrans who can actually beat JD due to Light's play-style of being straightforward and low-risk.
>>738180174AHEM! Reminder that the Terranny has a LOSING, below 50%, TvZ record. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
Prediction: Light dies to muta 3x
THE DONG
>>738180289Based fucking retard
>>738180431Just ignore him, he's the resident schizo.
Jaedong's for comparison. vs Terran is his worst matchup.
surely this time, JD will not choke and die like he did in every single previous season he played in
>>738180492AAAAAAAAAAAA DON'T SAY THAT ANON AAAAAAA
We're gonna be closer to a ZvZ finals today :/
>>738180431In the current era, that is, without the KeSPA matches. In the ro16 broadcast, his record was 49% on the overlay thingy.
>>738180190Light is predictable. Jaedong is in top prime form and if he doesn't make any mistakes he should win easily
>>738180520are you ok? goodhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR5dVXhkPCw
I think today will be closer than tomorrow. People like to remember when Snow beat Flash 3-2 but the next time they met in ASL Flash won 4-0.
>"Jaedong is in top prime form" Says Increasingly Nervous Man For Seventh Time This Decade
First game: JSecond game: JThird game: LFourth game: J
>>738180431>>738180539Make that ro24: https://youtu.be/wAMb3CoCznM?t=1175
>>738180617Flash looked way worse than he usually does in his games so far, though, and Snow is one of the most consistent Protoss in the world
I have not watched one of these in what feels like 10 years and it's still the same dudes competing against each other.Crazy.
>we live in a world where Leta is seeded into next tournament
SHOULDER STATUS: COVERED
There's zero chance Light will go mech so do what you will with that information
>>738180663He actually looked really dominant in the previous rounds. He beat Flash, Bisu and Queen to get here.
>>738180663PEAK FORM, BABY!DOUBTERS WILL BE FORCED TO 4POOL 100 GAMES TO APOLOGIZE!
>>738180665Neo-Syphilis seems really bad for ZvT. Worse than Metropolis, even.
the two HOTTEST players playing today. SEXO
Not going to lie im hating jaedong current playstyle. Playing like a addyteen that only knows relentless assault because he's terrified of late game hive deserves to be a losing player at the highest level. I rather he develops his late games skill than every game being decided on lair timing attacks going well.
>>738180880"Going for the late game" is like drinking saltwater.
>>738180880cringe post
>>738180714Tulbo v Leta was one hell of a match. Tulbo choked so bad. I wonder how all the much more established players he beat feel about the poor level of play he showed against Leta. Tulbo beat Larva, Hero, Shine, sSak and Sharp, hardly pushovers. I rewatched his round of 16 and he repeatedly walked dragoons into mines but his economy and strategic moves (base expansion and attacks into undefended bases) made his wins look inevitable.
one of the best TvZers vs JD todayabsolute kino
>kelly clarkson themeSOVL
>>738180667Current record shown just now is 50% with those Calm games.
LET'S FUCKING GO JAEDONG!
Terranbros!
>JD didnt fuck up drone split like against Flashmeans hes gonna lose?
CUTE
No 12 hatch! No 12 hatch! No 12 hatch!
>>738180880>current playstyleWinning the game on the strength of his 600 APM double control group mutalisks was his signature move. He can't do that now because he's old but every pro has at least one thing that sets him apart from the others and makes them pro-level, so expecting him not to rely on muta play would be strange.
>maek missile turretwin>do not maek missile turretlose
The only hope we have is JD winning, JD is the only person left who won't match fix vs Flash
>>738181064BRUUUUUUUUUUUUUH
Can jaedong overcome light? He seems just outclassed every other time they played.
*pew*
>i made no units now i'm being attack by enemy units how can this happen to me AAAAAAAAAAAAA?!?!
>>738181191NOOOO IT'S NOT FAIR TERRAN SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO HARASS WITHOUT RISKTHAT'S ZERG'S PRIVILEGE
>loses another overlord to the wraiths
MAEK MUTA
EXPLORER REPORTING
9 min hive?Very fast.
wew
DEFENSIVE
Jaedong's getting FUCKED
OH N-
its over
*walks into your third*
Well now that seems like the good old jaedong we know
Lurkers not being on the high ground cost him the game
>>738181209
well done
Remarkably very well done from Light. This is part of his playstyle, just pinpoint precision strikes after a safe opening.
>There's a chance we dodge ZvZ finals:D
damn that was clutch timing by light
I don't like seeing Jaedong get stomped, but I like seeing Lurkers fail to be a menace. Getting real mixed feelings.
Damn, that engagement where both sides got obliterated except for a tank and some lings and the sole surviving tank got saved by a defensive matrix was exciting.
>>738181408keknot like this ;_;
>>738181429>we get TvT finals instead
>>738181429Leta will murder soma like he did soulkey.screencap this.
>>738181429JD was never going through a Light, snow, flash bracket dawg
>>738181467don't speak too soon sweetie
THE FOREST IS ALIVEWITH THE SOUNDS OF BUG CLICKS
>>738181464>like he did soulkey...? "It was real in my mind."
>>738181481JD only knows attack to make things happen but trips over spectaculary when nothing comes of it. He needed some lessons from soulkey to force the players hand on dealing with a well develop zerg.
Yooooo i redeemed the cards!!!.
>>738181583Just make units and delay hive a little. It's that simple. Whatever they are, even lings.
>>738181619STOP BLOODYDO NOT FUCKING REDEEM
>>738181569lol, maybe that's what he means>Leta will (not) murder soma like he did (not) soulkey
CAM ON JAEDEE *bangbangbangbang*KILL SOME FAKKING SCBs *bangbangbangbang*
>>738181452>Flash, JD, Snow, Soma all in Round of 8>Get a Leta vs Light finals
Another 12 hatchJdbros..
Is there a reason why some terrans kill their own ramp neutral marine so very early on Jane Doe? Wouldn't it be better to have that as a wall? Just to scout early?
DOUBLE STAR
>den spottedJDbros....AlsoTWO PORTS WHEW
>>738181756Very cheesy map and the only way to scout is to kill marine. They have no vision to do worker passthrough
>>738181756I assume it's not worth it when Zerg has overlord scouting and is liable to send Mutas out of nowhere.
Leta gaslit the entire scene into thinking 2port is good
Are we going to go another series without seeing any ultrasIt feels like it's been years since we saw them...
he's not Him
I physically wince and cringe whenever Wraiths get hit by muta shots.
>>738181846Jd and hive...
Lurker drop all in i think
>>738181919you know what would really put a stop to these wraiths?some fakin queens CAM ON JAEDONG
DEFILER
>about to get attacked>rushes hive instead of making unitsWhat did he mean by this?
AAAHHH RETREAT
Close
oh fuck jd held thatjd is good
hydra rapes the small marine
>getting beat by hydrasLIGHT ENTER DARKNESS
HE MAEKED
>Winning condition is tank seige in natural>have tank so far forward to get easily picked offWtf you doing light. Polymarket fix must be in
Plagu status?
That was a really bad angle for Light to attack into kek
FIRE IT UP
>firebat dropRT in shambles
AAAH FIREBAT
BASE TRADE
this game about to get retarded
ebin
>jd didn't kill any of the vessels>no plague+mutalisk to clear themit's so over
PLAGU THE VESSELS AAAHHH
fuck this game has be clenching my butt
>>738182245Light's almost twice the supply, but one bad engagement is all it takes with these units
Plagubros...
That supply. Its over
vessels aren't dying. Light will probably win.
>>738182281one bad engage for light is only -15 or 20 supply from marines while the vessels continue to pile upone bad fight for jd is a loss
>PLAGUED.COM
Ok yeah it's over
Kino game for firebat enjoyers
mmmm, drobes
CRISPY DROBES
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
terranbros!
there goes my firebatherowatch him as he goes
What the hell was that? That was the worst Jaedong game I've ever seen. He floated 2k minerals for no reason, zero micro, zero macro. Light was trash too. What
REVERSE SWEEP INCOMINGTrust the plan
This top 8 shall be known as 3-0 town
dude holy fuck light is so good
light is basically prime flash in tvz
>>738182430Losing to wraiths game 1 is understandable because he didn't expect themGoing into game 2 and getting caught out by wraiths a second time is sad
>>738182430Pretty much. Like bro just make units.
>>738182437So do you think flash or snow will go down 3-0?
>>738181569oops, i mistook leta for ample.
Based Leta inspiring all terratrannies to abuse wraiths
>flash vs light qf
>>738182479Losing to wraith is dumb because they honestly suck. All you gotta do is make units, protect your drobes, go hive and make sure you don't get caught by timing attack. When Terran does that crap they can't do anything else too. What the fear the most is late game zerg which is why they always try to end games early. Zergs gotta learn to go hive, plague grind. Terran becomes so shit when all of their units are plagued, medics lose all energy etc. Terran's weakness is always trying to micro science vessel, none of them can do it. Only Flash in his prime could do it.
NO PLAGUE BRO
PLS SIR REDEEMDon't you want an epic gaming mouse and a coffee cup?
>>738182558>flash does greedy 14ccs every game>light gets a good punish for it, ends up +40 supply>suddenly light forgets that he left his pizza bites in the microwave and walks 50 supply into flash's 20 high ground tanks>proceeds to lose an unlosable game>repeat this 2 more timesThe flash special baby, savior would be proud at the entire scene taking after him
>>738182558such is the price for an epic finals soma vs flash. thank fuck it's not zvz
>>738182508Snow easily. I just hope for a snow vs soma finals that doesnt look like top 32 games like last year.
>>738182568Thats not jaedong bro. He attacks and only attacks. I fear this late in his career he isnt going to learn from that.
11 hatch! Something differnet today bros
2PORT LMAO
sdab sdab xDDDDt. sunnken golony :DDD
Oooo nice block
JD getting 'nam flashbacks now that he's getting corsaired in tvz as well
Poor little Overlords.
LMAO 2PORT!2PORT!
Bro just doesnt respect clocked wraith lol how many muta harass starts he needs to fail?
jd genuinely deserves to lose for neglecting early overlord speed/range three games in a rowfor the low low cost of 1.5 mutalisks (and not even the larva) he could have saved himself this trouble
he keeps investing so much in mutas and does nothing worthwhile with them
Holy turrets
>>738182936True.
GETAFUCKINGQUEEN
>more wraiths than mutasoof
Wraiths are good????
>>738182980>2026>I am forgotten.
>>738183045it's a retard check unitthere's about five different things jd could do to counter them but jd's mind is stuck in pure boomer fog, he refuses to deviate from his tried and true maek muta
TOTALTERRANDOMINANCEBegone zergies, this is TERRAN's game.
>be T>stay on 2 base forever>maek>move outno wonder artosis loves light
save us wiggler
Light playing too fancy where the fuck third or even fourth cc by now? Jd is playing so scared right now
ids a good day do die D:D:D:DD:::::DD
Jaedong actually making units this time.
>>738183219He's UP in supply!
Those wraith being focused for too long really made light losed this.
>>738183280fell for it again award
VESSELS ACK
matchfixing
TOTAL VESSEL DEATH
OOOOH NICE VESSELS NERD
Need a light?
PLAGUUUU
PLAGUUUUUUUUUUU
Man fuck defilers
Cracklings are soooo crazy
At some point you really need to scan the base you intend to drop
>Defensive Firebats
>ultrasIt's over
very nice shutdowns
VDV drop
Alright that was a great game. He's still in this.
I BELIEVE IN THE REVERSE SWEEP
DONGBROS
>jaedong makes units and hatcheries>Light has no idea how to fight late gameI TOLD YOU BRO, I TOLD YOU. Terran players suuuuuck at late game nowadays
GET WIGGLED
>not a 3:0 curb stompwe're so back
I can't help but root for him but Jaedong lowkey deserves to lose. Just the amount of overlords he needlessly let die was absolutely criminal
>>738183325
Oh no.. zerg figured out late game zerg is strong. GG
>>738183529kek
>Just drop 5 times with 3 full dropships in the exact same place against the exact same units lying in wait.Wow, thanks Light, that's an incredible amount of resources you threw away.
>>738181636>>738183560Literally.
>>738183642Not any worse than jaedong just leaving 10 mutas right in range of light's 2port wraiths every game and then promptly losing all of them as soon as cloaking comes in
Why has there been shift into mech or mixed bio with some tanks or wraiths or what not thrown in as opposed to just doing marines, medics and science vessels? Couple years ago SK was extremely dominant
>>738183739SK Terran is the most APM intensive build and everybody has busted tendons. Also everybody likes not suddenly losing their entire army to lurkers. 1-1-1 really breathed new life into mech/mixed play.
>>738183739exploding wrists syndrome
There are many foreigners watching this live too huh?
>>738183739Tanks give terrans a way to actually push into the super early defiler+lurker rush, SK terran gets pretty hard walled by the first 3-4 lurkers under dark swarm, they won't have enough irradiate that early to clear the way
>>738183739Mech is just easier
>lose macro game>immediately resorts to bunker rush cheese next gameTerrans are so predictable. All they do is cheese
>>738183849Why can they add fake padding to titties and butts but not wrists
>>738183739Hydra-lurker-defiler.
how many scvs did he cut to be able to rush like this
>>738183923Mouse ergonomic isn't natural for human
I liked how JD stopped the bunker rush just by killing the marines with drobes
>>738183837God how i wish Clem picked up broodwar and show these boomers what SK terran should look like again.
>>738183862Tanks don't work against lurkers under dark swarm so I don't see how they'll help.
>>738183964Should have move into vertical mouse
>>738184010First of all with enough tanks anything is possible. So jot that down in your notes
>>738184010You set up a firing position and slowly choke the zerg out, if nothing else you hit the buildings from across a ledge while your bio + single vessel deter the zerg from rushing your tankIt puts the onus on the zerg to make something happen instead of just sitting behind infinite swarms
>>738184028Couldn't agree more brotherIt just needs less weight + better sensor
Light...
>light falling for the classic lurkers on ramp defensebruh moment
>put 3 Lurkers>stops Marines bust with just aura
This is why you dont go full SK
BATTLECRUISERS INBOUNDTHIS IS NOT A DRILL
PHYSICS LAB
>>738184258you go BCs
Yamato is the most hype spell in all of RTS
CATTLEBRUISERS SPOTTED
>Battle cruiser has arrivedChills
>>738184357>not plaguuuuu
ULTRAS AND BATTLES OH BOY
>make bcs>die
BATTLES ACK
bro forgot to teleport his bcs baka
lel, 0 support
what the fuck is this bc play
>not matchfixed at all
>we re gonna go to game 5awesome
>200/200 zerg
Holy shid that was a lot of wasted gas
>IRRADIATED ULTRASSUPER ACK
Whose mans is this lmao
GG, all the vesseld gone
Light with the mass bunker defense like he's playing campaign
Say GG Terranny!
Imagine just throwing away three battlecruisers like that.
>he kept making bcs
GAME 5
>make units>winJaedong figured out the secret!
GAME 5>GAME 5GAME 5>GAME 5GAME 5>GAME 5GAME 5>GAME 5GAME 5>GAME 5GAME 5>GAME 5GAME 5>GAME 5GAME 5>GAME 5GAME 5>GAME 5GAME 5>GAME 5GAME 5>GAME 5GAME 5>GAME 5GAME 5>GAME 5GAME 5>GAME 5GAME 5>GAME 5
Fuck plague and swarm so much dishonesty
>>738184512Terrannies do this unironically.
>>738184565JD is a genius
! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !>>738182432! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
>>738184565(many players fail this task)
>deliberately lose the first two matches to make the day more excitingB A S E D
>>738184512>>738184584Tossers, too, do it with carriers.
Despite winning this jd limit is clearly on display. He is just not a good enough multitasker and tunnel vision small battles way too often.
>inb4 4pool or bbs anticlimatic game 5
Thou shalt not trickle thy BCs
>>738184734those would be hype though
Just in time for the last game. Let's go JaeGOD
Is this map good? Octagon? I wanna see Jaedong win he so he can kill Flash next
>>738184734pls. I wanna go back to bed
What the hellyI never seen this map.
>>738184738Trickling BCs is fine. Many ASL games have been won by just running in 2 BCs at a time . But making them when you're no way near the supply limit is a bad idea. And especially a bad idea when there's units that can kill them. I bet Light thought there were no more scourge and mutas around, so he was especially reckless with them.
>>738184912
>>738184921>no mutasHe must have forgotten who he was up against
PROTEC YOUR OVERLORDS
wraiths again
Mudalisbs
>better valk micro than flash
good valk micro
WOW MINE
KEK THE LING
MINEDRAG! Light lost 50- in motivation to keep playing
artosis moment
>lose all the valks
fuggg da burkers :DDDDD:DD
TEEEENKUUUU
it's over...
Light does it??
Its over..
YOU HAD TIME WTF
jaedong was so favored to win and then he completely forgot to maek wiggly boiswhat a shame
60 vs 120 supply
apparently right-clicking on a tank with a control group of hydras is too hard
Reminder Terranny is STUCK on 2 bases. Jaedong can still win
JD needs one good dark swarm really
>if your base is destroyed make two new ones...aint this supposed to be protoss strat?
fumble
>>738185452so is zerg lmao
gg boys, was a crazy night with sloppy playcan't wait for flash to matchfix his way to his final asl win (until he comes out of retirement for the sixth time)
Man
Bro are you kidding me. Jaedong was insanely late with defilers for no reason and then threw away an entire army. All you had to do was just pull back and wait until the defiler popped
FLASH VS SOMA BABY LETS GO
I went into this rooting for JD, but having seen the games now I'm glad Light won. He's clearly the better player.
sad but it's for the best, at least we dodged ZvZ finals
d-dongbros
That was a good timing push from Light. He literally won't let JD make units and win
next season for sure, right Dongbros?
>>738185520match fixing for $$$
zergbros... not like this
>>738185452
>>738185417>>738185442Yeah>All JD had to do was delay until defiler>Decide to attack with lurkers and hydras into tanks and marines for no reason>Just a-move into them, zero targetingWTF JD
I feel like every single game was won tonight was won because the other player had a bad game.
>>738185520Thats the jaedong way. You always go for it
>>738185452get rekt schizo AHHAHAHAHAHA
>>738185520The game is over once the Zerg loses their third. He had no choice but to defend.
shitty terran favored maps 2bh this season
<-- ASL Season 21 Champion
>>738185554>>738185597Fuck you
Reminder: there can only be one Zerg Chad at a time, and it's Soma.
>Soma vs Flash finalsthank god
>>738185576jaedong lost because he was completely unable to read what light was doing even when it was signaled minutes in advancefirst two games were lost to 2port wraiths like it's 2002, all jd had to do was not throw away 20+ mutas like a retardlight lost because he got overconfident, i swear the battlecruisers were a bm move and light thought he had already won the game up until he threw away 3 bcs in the span of 10 secondsvery poor gameplay and neither of them would have been able to win in finals
>>738185649maybe if he didn't suck so hard against zergsoma is definitely gonna win
Are we going to have a 6th zerg asl champion in a row?
How is he so BIG?
thoughts?
>>738185649bruh Leta is not beating soma
>>738185620No literally. He killed the valks, he killed a tank for free. Just make defiler and defend and everything Terran has falls apart. Valk into tank timing is an all-in. They got zero moves after that. Defend it and Zerg wins
>>738185576Just like Chess
>>738185654Are you ok schizonny? schizonny, are you ok?
>>738185704Yes.
>>738185715He has the father energy, childless btfo
>>738185716snow goes up 40+ supply every gamethrows away every lead by walking into entrenched positions with full visionflash wins 3-0artosis claps
>>738185716Total Snow victory. Flash haven't impressed me lately
Guys it's not like Jaedong would have beaten Snow.
>>738185716I want Snow to win, but it'll probably be 1-3 in Flash's favour.
>>7381857163-2 Flash takes ithe's just too good against protoss
At what level do pros start maeking units
None lf these players seen so far is going to beat soma
>>738185716could be kino like their last match which was the best tvp everor flash is washed and snow 3-0s it
>>738185782LMAO
>>738185782TvZ is hardest matchup though. Zerg beating Protoss is much easier. Maek hydra and you win like 60% automatically
>>738185782He wouldn't. Snow only loses to soulkey soma level zergs
I want Snow to humiliate Flash but since TvZ is more fun it's best we have Soma vs Flash/Light in the finals
>>738185654Oh, fuck YOU, hydraman!
>>738185620Jaedong absolutely does not need to attack the army until they're actually in siege range of the third. He threw away a bunch of hydras and lurkers when all he needed to do was to continue buying time by forcing tanks to siege and unsiege while advancing, just like he had been doing in the minutes prior.
>>738185970This. Once you have lurkers under dark swarm what the fuck is Terran supposed to do? All they can do is make firebats and dmatrix them at best which delays the game for minutes. Meanwhile zerg can make more lurkers/defilers
