>can't function as a controller without steam>buttons function as keyboard keys without steam>sticks function not as sticks without steam (they just move the mouse)>triggers don't function as triggers without steamThat'll be $100
Microjeet lmao
>source: my anal fracture
>>738183018Valve themselves
>>738183018
>>738182978Always online drm.... except when offline.... or when using linux....or lizard mode...or if you install drivers which are public....God valve just makes the most pathetic drm doesn't it?
>pay TWICE the price of other controllers that work in every game without any software DRM>get cucked by a non-functional piece of shit that requires a DRM client to function as a basic controller
Imagine actually using Hindus 11.
>>738182978All false. Just hold start.FUCKING LET ME BUY IT ALREADY GABEN YOU FAT OVERWEIGHT ROUND BULGING MASSIVE TOWERING SUBSTANCIAL LUMPISH INFLATED LARGE IMPOSING MOUNTAINOUS COLOSSAL PLUMP GINORMOUS HUGE MONOLITHIC WALLOPING CYCLOPEAN MEATY CORPULENT MONUMENTAL HULKING BOUNDLESS LEVIATHAN BLUBBERY HUMONGOUS VAST GIGANTESQUE OBESE IMMEASURABLE MONSTROUS VOLUMINOUS IMMENSE PUDGY ELEPHANTINE SIZABLE BROBDINGNAGIAN FLABBY HEAVY OVERSIZED CONSIDERABLE HEFTY BLOATED TUBBY BIG-BONED ROTUND GARGANTUAN WELL-FED LARDWHALE NIGGER
>>738183067So, you're saying it works without Steam then?
>steam controller threads have turned into indian vs tranny shitflinging
>>738182978>can't function without steamYes it can, see SISR.
>>738183330BASED
>>738183378I'm curious which you call which.I'm guessing Anti sc is Indian?
>>738183426>SISR
>>738183378NintoddIers vs Micro$hills?
>>738183495>FOSS and soon to workThe controller isn't even out yet, anon, why do you have to be a faggot?
>>738183426>function>broken experimental unfinished buggy trash
>>738183579>th-they'll patch it!
>>738183067What makes bazzite different from other linux distros in terms of controller support?
>>738182978So all I have to do is to add my non steam games (1% of my game library btw) into steam and it'll work ?
>>738183604>>7381835821. Not even four sentences later it says that a rewrite will come out soon.2. You can use the documentation to make it work without requiring anyone else work, you can make it yourself.3. Nothing is DRM about the controller.4. The controller is not even for sale yet.5. Kill yourself
>>738183621It adopts a lot of functionalities that SteamOS does as well, such as having Steam preinstalled and starting on startup.
>>738182978A controller made SPECIFICALLY to take advantage of Steam features and to make using SteamOS and/or Big Picture Mode easier only works on Steam????? WHAT A SHOCKER!!!!Seriously, who in their right mind would even think of buying this controller if they aren't going to use it within Steam itself? If you're gonna do that, then other controllers are much better than this, so anyone who has ANY reason to even WANT the Steam Controller is going to use it within Steam anyway.This is literally a non-issue.It's like complaining a 350K sports car has a small trunk you can't fit a lot of stuff in: if you buy a sports car, you're not gonna use it to carry lots of stuff or big stuff around, and if you want a car to do that, you buy a truck, or an SUV, a mini van, etc, not a sports car, and all of those are much, much, MUCH better than any sports car if carrying stuff around is what you intend to use a car for, so a sports car having a small trunk is a non-issue and it's dumb to complain about it.
>>738183426do you even need SISR? can't you just set the desktop layout to have the buttons mapped to regular xbox buttons like usual? then other apps outside of steam will detect those? or am I stupid?
>>738183710SISR is already itself a rewrite of glossi lolsorry anon but if you plan to use this for anything that is incompatible with steam input, you're fucked
>>738183604my dear consolecuck, don't talk about open source shit if you don't understand it
>>738183621No clue why whoever made the chart designed it that way. Rocknix is a custom distro for emulator handhelds, so the devs of it probably haven't merged the driver into their kernel. Not sure why he chose to equate it to all other distros when it will work fine on most.
>>738183753Basic controller functions are not specific to steamThe buttons don't even function as controller buttonsThe sticks don't even function as sticks
Reminder that sc absolutely dominates alternatives.
>>738183767open source development moves at a snails pace for niche projects like this
>>738183753you don't even need to use it within steam, you can just change it to act like a 360 controller and keep steam in the background. it would be nice if microsoft changed their fucking api to support all these new features that modern controllers have, but modern MS and innovating are like water and cum
>>738183789My gamesir is better than the steam controller in every categoryAnd it works without software on every single game on PC and on switch and switch 2
>>738183789>cherry pickingso this is what steam controller defenders had to resort to. It's funny too that you missed the one actually useful feature anyway
>>738183821>steam controller>niche productyou don't fucking know what niche is
>>738183898and you don't fucking know that SISR is the replacement for GlosSI which itself moved at a snails pace
>>738182978>>738183067retards>>738183758Yup, there's also a driver on github for the steam deck that adds xinput support without ever opening steamThis is a nothingburger.
>>738183841Tell me more about this gamesir with track pads. Link?>>738183884>Comparing Normal features and price is cherry picking
>>738183993The triggers section of the chart is plain nonsense, 3 of them should objectively be green.
lol @ valvebots
Better tell the niggerdevs to drop the 20 year old obsolete api and start adding sdl support to their games
>>738184098gamedevs won't use SDL in their games as it's more annoying than supporting the full steam input API in your game.
>>738183763>"sorry anon but if you plan to use something that already exists and works and has many alternatives, you're fucked"
>>738184098Consoles are still the lead SKU and if they need XInput for the Xbox version anyway then they'll be lazy about it.
>>738183786>The buttons don't even function as controller buttons >The sticks don't even function as sticksFalse. Just hold start when in lizard mode to switch between a kbm layout and a controller layout.
>>738184959Didn't know this myself. Ffs so many lies trashing sc
>>738184959only works with steam running
>>738185251No, see >>738185304
>STEAM controller>doesn't work outside of steamshocking indeedfucking idiot
>>738185374>controller that only works when you login to an account and leave an app runningif ANY other company did this, /v/ would shit all over it.
>>738185370This is already proven false by linux working And lizard mode. You've outed yourself as full of curry shit I'd trust anyone but you
>>738185374Brain dead clown>basic controller functions that work universally don't work at all with this 1 controller that costs twice as much as the others
>>738185440sure if you're on a mainline distro it'll work using the kernel driver, but anywhere else? gotta keep steam running.
>>738183758This doesn't work, you need to add the game to steam so that it recognizes the Steam controller, without steam the controller doesn't work.
>>738185491Literally don't fucking care. Just include the drivers.
Not my problem, use Linux nigga
>>738182978it really is over for americans
>>738185304>>738185370Wrong. That's how it works without Steam running on 'eck at least. No reason to think it won't work the same with the cunt' on any Linux PC.
>>738184262All Microslop APIs must be removed.REMINDER: Microsoft intentionally fucked up the DirectInput support on the 360 controller in order to get everyone to move to the less functional Xinput API.>Triggers just increment one axis positively or negatively, so that axis spits out the difference between triggers>Buttons are scrambled>No vibration supportInstead of just lazily using the DirectInput API, game devs now needed to lazily use two APIs.And now Microslop is coming out with GameInput which will clearly fix all problems caused by their previous malfeasance.>>738185426It's a good thing Valve didn't do it then.
>>738183067>tranzitte
>>738182978based i'll take 2
>>738185426You have to use a Switch 2 controller on PC the exact same way you use the Steam controller.
Why can't a custom driver be made for it?
>>738185879nobody cares about jeetdows 11
>>738182978Is it really that bad or is this just trollinghalf of my library is on GOG can I just add gog to steam and have all the features or will I have to jump through hoops just to have a functioning controllerreal question
>>738185934what about windows 10
>>738185821you don't HAVE to, switch controllers are standard directinput (same as playstation controllers)
>>738185941Yes, just add to steam and its LITERALLY no difference. And the customization for layout possibilities are enough you (literally) might get sick of them
>>738186036No, you HAVE to for the Switch 2 Pro controller because it's not picked up by Windows without Steam Input. It's the same issue the Steam controller has.
>>738185974Only trronix
>>738185941The real answer is it depends on the game.I've ran into games before that could not be mapped in steam, but it's rare.
>>738185974lol.
>>738186082>because it's not picked up by Windows without Steam InputThat's false, it is recognized as directinput. The reason you may have issues in games is because most games use xinput thoughever.
>>738186042>just add to steamSo I'm passing by.
>>738185934So you'd rather just let XInput be the de facto dominant control API? Also being beholden to it even if you choose not to use Windows?
>>738185879It can, and Valve did for Linux. They just didn't bother to for windows.
>>738182978yeah i had enough of that shit with the original steam controller. it shouldn't require steam to use.
>>738186124Oh my bad, yeah it does show up in Windows. My Switch 2 Pro Controller straight up does not work without running games through Steam though. Even on games and programs where the Dualsense works without needing to open Steam.
>>738186197Yes
>>738186376>does not work without running games through Steam though. Even on games and programs where the Dualsense worksThat's odd. Which games were you testing with?
>>738185631>on deckIt only works because they have drivers specifically for it in the kernelIt doesn't do SHIT on windows without steam
>>738185879Because valve wants to abuse their monopoly
>hate windows for its proprietary bullshitcompletely fair>praises steam input which is proprietaryhuh?
>>738186424It was everything, including emulators. The Switch 2 controller straight up would not work for me without running things through Steam.
>>738186528duality of man
>>738182978>can't function as a controller without steamwhy can't indians read?
>>738186606wothow was your dualsense working for everything without steam then?
>>738186651Whenever Sony released that Playstation Accessories app, I stopped needing to use something like DS4Windows, so I'm not sure if that included a driver to make everything just work or not but my Dualsense has been usable without Steam for a while now and I don't need that Playstation Accessories app open either.
>>738182978works on linux
>>738186447>It only works because they have drivers specifically for it in the kernelYes. Meaning any (up to date) Linux distro will work.>It doesn't do SHIT on windows without steamTough luck lmao. Maybe try switching to an OS not made by indians and random slop generators.
>>738186809telling someone on nvidia to swap to linux is still retarded, innit? there's a big performance hit.
Steam Controller offers more functionally than the xinput drivers consider. You say that the SC has to support xinput, when in reality xinput needs to support the SC.Go shit on Microsofts doorstep instead>NO THE STEAM CONTROLLER NEEDS TO BE LIMITED BY XINPUTS CONSTRAINTS
>>738186771I have absolutely no idea what you did you make that work without steam or ds4windows
>>738186528doesn't need steam input to work on non cuck OSs
>>738187021Apparently I don't even have Playstation Accessories installed on this computer, so it might have been from a firmware update on Sony's end? I'm really not sure, I just know the results and the results are that I need to use a Pro Controller 2 through Steam while the Dualsense is completely fine to play games without Steam running. I do play wired though because it's the Dualsense and the battery life is shit.
>>738186885unless you're on a laptop you can literally just sell your card and buy any of the 90 series cardseven the 8gb version will be good given how much attention valve is putting towards vram efficiency
>>738186651Dualsense just werks
>>738187227I'm quite certain that sony has never added xinput to the dualsense's firmware, so I really don't know what you're experiencing. The dualsense controllers are directinput only, and their gyro+trackpad data is sent as raw HID. If you're playing a game compatible with directinput, it'll work as a basic controller, but for most games (xinput) you'll need a driver or software translation. Are you sure you don't have anything else installed? Maybe you added a driver? Left steam running on startup? idk man it's your computer.
>>738182978>That'll be $100Here you are, Have a nice day!
>>738186885Nah. This is old information. Nvidia works just as well (if not better) than Radeon cards with the Linux kernel. The only and biggest problem right now is about 10% less performance on directx12 titles. Other than that it justwerks
>>738183067>Bazzite has os level supportSo you need drivers for it to work and even without them it also works as a faux keyboard. Why should I be angry about this?
>>738182978if timmy made a fortnite controller you would be sucking his dick
>>738186207Maybe that wasn't what I was trying to ask. I should have asked why is the possibility of a third-party driver that handles this the way people expect a problem? Is there no low-level access that Valve is providing to any software outside of Linux? Or is the OP just being a fag as usual?
>>738187431>Nvidia works just as well (if not better) than Radeon cards with the Linux kernel.tainted kernelyou don't have to lie to them
>>738187354Steam isn't running on startup and I didn't install any particular driver that I'm aware of. I'm really not sure myself, I just tried it with Silksong since I have the GoG version and the PS5 controller works but the Switch 2 Pro controller doesn't. The Switch 2 Pro controller needs Steam input right now while the PS5 controller doesn't, it's weird.
>>738187478Third parties would technically be able to do it. However, winslop being proprietary malware will pose annoyances for either the developers of the driver or its users.Developers will have to get the driver signed by windows, which costs money, for users to be able to just install it.If developers don't want to pay for the signature, users will have yo disable Driver Signature Enforcement (DSE) on their windows machines, which is a (((security risk)))
>>738187594Silksong itself native supports dualsense, maybe that's why?Although it should also support switch 2 pro controller as well...
>>738187572I'm not lying I have been using an nvidia card on my GNU/Linux system for a year and I never had even one (1) problem. Everything works out of the box
>>738187431Just had to install Linux with an Nvidia 700 series card. It's a pain since nvidia splits their drivers. After fiddling with a couple distros CachyOS was the distro that automatically installs the correct ones.
>>738182978Poor Person: The Thread
>>738182978I have steam
>>738187689To make things weirder, I connected my Dualsense and Pro Controller 2 (wired) to play the new Dissidia mobile game on Android and both worked out of the box and even had their own unique button prompts appear. I'm not sure what the fuck is the problem with the Switch 2 Pro Controller on PC, it's weird. Google says>The controller communicates using non-standard data packets that require translation via Steam Input or third-party wrappers like X outputbut I'm not sure if it's hallucinating that or if it's real.
Steam Controller was 5 dollars and no one used the trackpadsWhy would this be any different?
>>738187991switch 2 pro is just directinput, it should work for any game that support directinput you just won't get gyro and HD rumble.
Hoping for a dual stage trigger mod.
>>738182978It not functioning outside of steam is a deal breaker. Nearly half of my games on PC are on GOG at this point.
>>738184184What? As opposed to what? The win32 api?
>>738182978don't you need steam to buy the thing in the first place?
>>738182978Just wait until you try to use a printer
>>738187991>>738188085oh, you said wired.You have to use pro 2 controller over BT, because of...reasons...it'll only use directinput wirelessly (technically speaking, this controller has better latency wirelessly anyway so you have no reason to bother using it wired)
>>738188498Huh, that's weird as hell. I'll keep that in mind then, thank you.
>>738182978Oh, what a travesty. Guess I'll download a fan-made driver like every other non XInput gamepad.
>>738182978>"Leading authority in computer hardware reviews">Shills for steam instead of calling this outso whos next to save gaming hardware?
>>738182978>without steam>without steam>without steam>without steamOk but get thisI use steam?
for me, it's an xbox 360 USB controller for 10$ on shopee
>>738182978That will only last for 1 day until drivers are made for it. How was the Xbox controllers and Sony controllers any different? Also, I can't even start steam.
>>738188924>Cant start steam>Start>Start rotars>Start half-life 1 rotars HALFLIFE 3 CONFIRMED??
>>738188724steam is pioneering everythingunlike timmy who only cries on twitter
>>738182978Every gamer has Steam start at launch though.
Did the previous steam controller also have this issue? If it did, did it ever get fixed by valve or by fans?
>>738188724Hardware by design is usually more restrictive than any form of software. But Valve doesn't stop any other software from taking over their hardware, Valve acknowledges it's your hardware and you can do anything with it, it just so happens that the software that Valve offers is usually leagues ahead, thanks to their investment in free and open source software as well as features for their proprietary platform that integrates rather seamlessly with this free and open source software.
>>738190342>did it ever get fixed by valve or by fansNo, it was a piece of shit and Pcbros are Stockholm syndroming hard about it
>>738190342People kind of made tools to that effect, but they're not necessary today. Just launch your games and apps through Steam, it works really well.
>>738183378It's just jews.We have daily anti-steam/valve threads every single day since Valve BTFO'd Rothschilds in the court.
>>738190462I don't want to launch everything through steam just to use a controller. The entire reason I use GOG is to slowly get rid of steam.
>>738182978it's not hardware DRM though, it's a lack of software support from others.
>>738190641What I find truly disturbing is how the average normie still hasn't noticed what jews do to industry and regular people in general.We wouldn't be in a recession right now if it wasn't for fucking lobbying and corruption that is the bread and butter of jews.I just hope Valve doesn't get JFK'd because they're clearly not happy they got caught lacking like a bunch of fucking clowns that they are.I hope Valve wins every fucking case that comes their way. It's so pathetic, but they're shameless so they'll do anything to try and get back at Valve.
>>738190691>I don't want to launch everything through steam just to use a controller. I need way more functionality from my controller than what an Xbox pad provides.>The entire reason I use GOG is to slowly get rid of steam.Opposite for me. My entire paid and unpaid library is all in Steam.
>>738190408tldr this is steamgate and controllergate. admit it.
>>738190879>My entire paid and unpaid library is all in Steam.Steam provides so much fucking shit even for non steam games. I can't imagine without it
>>738190879>Opposite for me. My entire paid and unpaid library is all in Steam.That is insane to me. Why would anyone want more drm in their life.
>>738183378I don't understand why this topic creates so many threads anyway.>it's a piece of hardware>it brings advantages when you use it together with Steam>since it's the Steam controller>if you don't like Steam, there are an assload of other controllers that work just fine>they are even cheaper for the most partHow do you even get mad about this, kek.It's like shitting yourself in rage because you wanted to buy some white bread but there was also wholemeal bread on the shelf at the store or something equally retarded.
>>738190960Exactly, and a lot of it is stuff no one else provides, especially not through one in-game interface.
>>738191015It's been over 20 years (starting with Half-Life 2 launch) and I am happy with the decision.
>>738186885Microsoft is literally so scared of Linux now that they are focusing on fixing how shit their OS is with Windows K2 lmao
I guarantee you at least a third of the posts in this thread are fucking bots.Not even this shithole is safe anymore. After the hack half of all posters were Israeli.That's how fucking compromised this site is now as of today. It happened more and more as the years went by, but now it's not even fucking subtle. Clearly there's paid promotion and automated botting going on now.
>>738191030not even xbox tells you what you can or cannot do with their premium elite controllers. proprietary controller DRM is unacceptable. sony did this years back with proprietary memory cards for the vita and that should have been the fucking end of all of it.
>>738182978What part of "STEAM CONTROLLER" didn't you understand?
>>738191257Do you think bots are ordering the controllers too? Reviewing them? Beep boop
>>738191120I finally realize that Half-Life 2 ruined PC gaming.
>>738191257>Clearly there's paid promotion and automated botting going on now.i can assure you the jeetposting against Linux and Valve is anything but paid forthey do it for free
>>738191313>not even xbox tells you what you can or cannot do with their premium elite controllers.neither does valve. all the other operating systems can add support for it just fine if they desire to do so.which they probably won't, so just get another controller if you don't like steam
Sweaty fatass here, what are some good gamer gloves or something so that my acid sweat doesn't ruin the controller? I sweat a LOT, my white gamesir controller is literally piss yellow now
>>738191585just dont buy white controllers
>>738191614My black dualshock 4 is shit brown
>>738191792maybe just clean your controllers off when they are noticeably gunked
>>738191908I already do that, but I want to avoid doing that with my $100 gayben controller
>>738191953cleaning is just something that needs to happen eventually
>>738182978I don't give a shit I'm buying it to use on my Steam Deck and eventually my Steam MachineI don't give a shit what windows cunts are doint
Do you think there will be a crack for the steam controller ?
>>738192006I play while running at full speed on a treadmill. I sweat a FUCKING lot, proper maintenance just ain't gonna cut it, I need some good gamer gloves man
>>738192073uh yeah its called installing Steam because you bought it via Steam retardor just installing Linux because it has a native kernel driver lmao
>>738191517valve themselves added support for linux, and they only did that for steamOS then later pushed it upstream so mainline distros could use it too. But make no mistake, valve did this because it benefits the 'eck and the 'achine directly.
>>738182978Can I play Fortnite with this thing?
>>738192265Only on linux.
>>738182978Not owning your games is good when valve does it.Season passes are good when valve does it.Day 1 cosmetic DLC is good when valve does it.Microtransactions are good when valve does it.Game as a service is good when valve does it.Lootboxes are good when valve does it.Child gambling is good when valve does it.Overpriced prebuilt gaming PCs are good when valve does it.DRMd mods are good when valve does it.CEO buying 20 yachts is good when valve does it.And now, not owning your controller is good when valve does it.
>>738192304>Child gambling is good this retard againhow do you solve child gambling?
>>738192287>>738192265Fortnite has no Linux support, so no.
>>738183067>current as of April
>>738192165and all other operating systems can do the same.which, by definition, does mean it is not hardware level DRM
>>738192367it's still true as of May
>>738192363Ok, so it's doa if you can just use it on indie garbage.
>>738192517>Indie garbage>Desperately ignoring that steam is biggest store front
>>738192392Isn't the manufacturer the one supposed to make drivers for its hardware ?
>>738192304I got to admire varoufakis at this point, now valve could just ask its userbase to eat shit and they'd do, it would be delicious, you know what? Valve's shit is probably saving diner. Based Gaben.
>>738182978Valve could shit down their throats and steamies would still defend them. They're literally console war fags disguised as PC gamers.
>>738192792>pc gaming is when you want a worse service with less features
>>738192845real brainlet takes today from the jeets lmao
>>738192889so why would i not want to use steam?
>>738183753A PS5 CONTROLLER MADE TO WORK WITH A PS5 AND YOU THINK THAT WILL WORK ON WINDOWS WITHOUT YOUR PS5 ON?This is you. Take Gabe's cock out your ass for one minute.
>>738192993nigga never heard of ds4windowsor Steam Input apparently
>>738192901idk, you can add literally any program to it if you wanted to just have it as a launcheras for reasons to not want to use it perhaps you just don't need it at the time?
install gentoo
So I don’t really get what happened to the PC Master Race Movement. We all spent years (since at least 2007) extolling the virtues of keyboard and mouse. We ALL believe that KB&M is superior. But now we’re being forced to buy this $100 chinkshit? And if we don’t, we’re Indian? Is everyone from the old Gaben/PCMR movement considered Indian now? We were White Americans 20 years ago, is this some kind of out-of-India theory?
>>738193175is this what your schizo hallucinations told you?no one is making you buy a controller
>>738193175KB&M is pretty good but some games are good with controller too. The benefit of PC is that you can use both and in any setting you want, be that sitting in front of your desk or lying a coach.
>>738193175>But now we’re being forced to buy this $100 chinkshit? And if we don’t, we’re Indian?You aren't forced, and you aren't indian if you can't, just poor. Indian is when you say its literally useless compared to Microsoft xbox controller.
>>738192630I think the issue is that the xinput drivers are licenced by Microsoft, which valve is actively competing with. I doubt valve would want to pay their main competitor to use a controller API that doesn't even support half the features of the steam controller when valve provides their own for free
>>738193123there is literally no excuse to not use steam on windows, it's all selective schizophrenia
>>738193503you're forgetting about all the goypass gamers
What's with a simple controller mind breaking so many people?
>>738193543"This kills the Xbox controller"
>>738193538Sisr fixes that.>>738193543I think its extreme bitterness, both from sour grapes console plebs, and Microsoft people worried They're gonna be unemployed
>>738193614>Sisr fixes that.uh but saar that is extra bloat on my bloatOS!!!
>This item is not available for purchase in your regionhaha...
>>738192845>PC gaming is just using Steam as a way of life and being unable to function without Steam
Its an hour and a bit til launch right?
>>738194568Actually 2 hours trust me bro.
>>738194453>pc gaming is about obsessing with vanity and being a contrarianthere is no excuse you can make up for not using steam that doesn't apply to windows
>>738192304Valve fanboys will never admit how much Valve sucks ass. This post doesn't even cover everything. Never forget Valve wanted to push for paid online back in the day just like Microsoft
Why did they ruin it by making it PlayStation style? I've bought and returned literally 7 or 8 different controllers. Nothing beats xseries but xseries has the A button problem. It fucking sucks
>>738194862Because apparently xbox style makes it almost impossible to include a gyro
>>738194723They wanted to push for paid online what?Explain your lie. This will be hilarious.
>>738194912Huh? No it doesn't. That has nothing to do with it. They copied the deck layout which is unnecessary
>>738194862I prefer PS style controllers.
>>738194964Its a joke. A joke about how LITERALLY no xbox controller has gyro
Maybe I have too low expectations, but after using DS3 on PC for many years with a 3rd party driver, SC2 not having standalone system level driver for a platform Valve wants to encourage people to leave is par for the course. It'll have something hacked together for Windows eventually.
>>738195169....why do you think that is anon?And tons of Xbox shaped controllers have gyro, who thinks about Xbox console only controllers at all roflWho uses consoles??? You don't belong here>>738195108That's great but they are ergonomically wrong per the human body
>>738194862It's Wii U style actually. Or Deck style, if you will.
how many bings until I can buy one?
>>738195302the human body is symmetrical you imbecile
>>738195542speak for yourself
>>738195302>And tons of Xbox shaped controllers have gyro,Just not the official xbox ones
>>738195542if its symmetrical why is one of my balls hanging lower than the other
>>738195773You have balls on your hands / arms?? Damn India pollution is no joke. I'm sorry bro.
wow this controller is horrible guys don't buy it, I won't
>>738182978>>738183067>>738191313>>738183753>>738183763saaars...
>>738182978anon there are zero controllers that work without software support, you're assuming that steam's controller needing driver support is somehow different from the xbox controller needing to interface with the xinput api (or whatever windows is calling its successor) just because almost everyone has made the conscious decision to implement it.if anything the fact that the controller functions as a keyboard/mouse without deliberate support puts it at a distinct advantage, if you plug almost any other controller into a computer that has not been programmed to support it then it is a brick.playstation controllers were in a similar boat until mid-ps4 lifecycle too, connecting a ps3 controller to a pc required some crazy workarounds until someone non-chinese decided to make a tool for them that worked. The only reason people think the xbox controller standard doesn't work the same way was because that software started being rolled out with every windows computer.
Yeah but does it work with the xbox app? I still get gamepass for a month to play the new forza, gears, etc slop
>>738194723>Never forget Valve wanted to push for paid online back in the day just like Microsoft
>>738183067>Retro Soi Corps
>>738196271No, the controller is only designed for Steam games.
>>738196426Can I use it with emulators? Already might be passing based on that.
>>738196135Wrong.Controller input is handled like this:>controller -> driver stack -> Steam Input -> gameOutputting data to the controller is like this:>game -> Steam Input -> driver stack -> controller
>>738196463It supports SDL, which practically all emulators use, so yes.
>>738183067Sigh, guess I'll have to replace my aging xbawx controller with another xbawx controller then.
>>738196537other way around but yeah it works with SDL because the support was merged into SDL last november
>>738196463They should yeah, I think you'll just have to add them to Steam as a non steam game and run them through that
>>738193175Hack and slash and platform games are better with a control, faggot.
>>738196271yes, with some minor work to set it up>>738196426saaar the chart is not wrong >>738196135
>>738196463It depends on the emulator. If you need a gyroscope in emulator, you will have to use cemu hook, since steam input does not provide raw gyroscope values.
>>738193175You faggots are so fucking insufferable, this isn't meant to be a total replacement for KB&M, it's an alternative for people that want something slightly better than a regular controller for mouse games but don't want a whole desk setup. KB&M is still going to be better for PvP
>>738196886You literally cannot use it with gamepass (xbox app) games, wdym?You can't even add those as non-steam games to steam (believe me, I've tried) as most of them are installed as encrypted apps.
>>738198130>illiterate retard lies about how the controller worksSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>738196491Sorry, the Valve employee was not explained how their controller works.
>>738198258hey, dude who scribbled that out here.how did I get elevated from shitposter to employee?is there a salary I can redeem?
>rich guy with a private jet with gold sinks calls it overpriced>fat third worlders on /v/ larp as rich people and call everyone poor for not falling into this $100 scam
>>738198484>here, youtuber!!!>please, he's an authority, agree with him!!!where the fuck do you think you are, microjeet?
>>738198834he's richer than your entire family will ever be
>>738199009>saar he has izzat, plese lisen to him
Just bought mine. I'm going to have a blast with this thing.
>>738199094fuck you man I can't get mine
I bought one, what am I in for?
>>738199221a scam
>>738183378That's most threads on here
>>738199148The orders went up three minutes early. I'm glad I tested a refresh each minute.
>>738182978Get fucking scammed retards
>>738198194Try it yourself if you don't believe me.
Whyyy
>>738199009>Flexing another mans wealth
>>738199867Just spam click the green button til it goes through
>>738199867i just got mine after clicking for 16 minutes lol. it'll work bro
>>738199841retarded pajeets are SOOO fucking stupid>take controller>set it to xinput emulation without steam>works :O
>>738195542Yes and video games are played with the right thumb on the buttons, brown black eyed zoomer console fps retard
>>738199973>>set it to xinput emulation without steamWhat are you using to achieve this?
>>738200082>retard cannot read or look up anythingsaaaaar its been covered across many threads :)
>>738183490steam is a pro tranny company
>>738200148ah okay so you're just shitposting
>>738199009man you are pathetic
>>738199896you're a poorfag larping as rich over $100 like blacks flexing their overpriced shoes, he is actually rich and has the authority to speak about overpriced garbage
>>738200185I accept your concession
>>738200175>its just a shill lyinggotchathere have been 3rd party tools to do this shit for decades, pajeet
>>738183621I don't think anything, since the steam controller support is in the basic Linux kernel that everybody uses. So I'd guess whoever made that chart fucked something up.
not even applefags were as pathetic as these trannies
>The Steam Controller on Linux will work with games via the Steam Runtime. So far we haven't seen any Linux kernel patches around HID driver support for the new Steam Controller outside of Steam.From Michael Larabel.
>>738200609Nope, it requires steam on linux. See https://www.phoronix.com/news/Steam-Controller-Shipping
>>738201002>saaaar pls do the kindly and read RANDOM NEWS SITEnot how the controller works dude
>>738201038Phoronix has been a common source on linux news for like 25 years now. If linux kernel has drivers for steam controller, you can easily prove it by posting the pr or something.
>vulve users litterally lying for their drm overlordlmao
So valve created a software console. Congrats I guess.
>>738201185>google site>garbage slop used by reddit and argued over for many inaccuraciesSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR
>>738201323Maybe you should discuss this on reddit.
it can, you're just on shitblows. works on anything on Winux
>>738201185the pr has been posted over a dozen times now, jeetthe driver is open source and also up on the SDL>>738201398jeet freaks and defaults to retard catchphrase
>>738201460>the pr has been posted over a dozen times now>trust me, I fizzbuzz on /g/It hasn't.
>>738182978>can't function as a controller without steam>buttons function as keyboard keys without steam>sticks function not as sticks without steam (they just move the mouse)>triggers don't function as triggers without steamI wonder how many people don't know about these conditions and when they will realize what they bought and demand a refund.
>>738183013this is exactly another reason i bought one as a linux fag, we cant stop winning
>>738201539https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/hid/hid-steam.cSAAAAAAAAAARS WE GOT TOO COCKY
>>738183789>No mechanical buttons>No trigger stoppers>250hz poolingmy 50$ aliexpress gamepad shits on all of these including SC
>>738201812sir kindly delete this post>>738201915polling beyond 250hz is just a retardedly unnecessary drain on batteries saaaar.
>>738201812lmao, you retard.
>>738201915what refresh rate is your monitor?
the fattest most annoying millennial you know instantly bought this overpriced dogshit controller
>>738202016>he doesn't knowSaaar valve is continuing to use this driver for the new controller.Saaaars got too cocky (again)
>>738182978>>can't function as a controller without steamSomeone will make an open source XInput emulator within the first week. I know people are itching to figure out how the controller works. Don't even worry about this shit, the open source community for controllers is pretty big and decently active. t. anon who fucks around with making controller emulators
>>738202093I'm sure they do.
>>738202120it already exists retard.
>>738202043You post like a woman.
>>738200504>there have been 3rd party tools to do this shit for decades, pajeetFor a controller that just came out?Right...
>>738202164well there we go! no need for people to complain about not having that functionality then.
>>738202184Where's the lie tho?
uhmm bros, i thought it was gonna flop???
>>738202120>Someone will make an open source XInput emulator within the first week.The old controller is 10 years old, and no one has done this for 10 years, so why would anyone do it for the new one?
>>738202185>SAAAR YOU CANNOT JUST TAKE REMAPPING SOFTWARE AND ADD ANOTHER CONTROLLER TO ITbeen doing so for decades, jeet :)>>738202207they are paid.
>>738182978The comfy thread is thrashing the anti thread.
>>738202253What software might that be?
>>738202250saaaaaaaaaaaaar its already been linked :)
>>738202294>saaar pls teach me how to googlemodern gucci shit is rewasd, stupid shill :)
>>738196135I have corrected your idea. do the needful next time
>>738202385>rewasddoesn't support the new steam controller.
99 euros... That's a scam, why cant i have it for 99$
>>738198258>employee was not explainedsaar...
Based
>>738202450
>>738183013tuxbros, we keep winning so much
>>738202451>SAAR IT DOES NOT SUPPORTalready does, retarded jeet.basic drivers are up, and that is all it needs :)
Reminder to winjeets: the non-steam driver is LINUX EXCLUSIVE lmao
>>738202843saaaar this is not true :)
>>738202698alright, buy the $100 ($150 in canadian) steam chastity belt then while we all point and laugh
real talk lads, why are trannies so obsessed with indians?
>>738202902>saaar me and the voices in my head will laugh at youI grabbed it an hour ago, jeet :)
>>738202843>the non-steam driver is LINUX EXCLUSIVE lmaoWriting controller drivers for windows is a pain in the ass, especially for haptic support.
>>738202927>pajeet based in uk tries to talk /pol/shit because the shilling clearly failed since valve is swamped by orders>fumbles english language
>>738203021>linux user(tranny) this obsessed with indiansweird
>>738203105>pajeet based in uk tries to talk /pol/shit because the shilling clearly failed since valve is swamped by orders>fumbles english language (again) by instantly going into "threatened pajeet" default talking pointsLMAO
>>738202958
>>738203202>pajeet is too retarded and poor to afford a gif
>>738203173your inability to understand colloquial english is astounding. thirdies always like to self report.
>>738183330It's finally over, Stemgachad.We finally made it.You did manage to get at least one unit, right
>>738203105you don't get to accuse anyone of being a tranny, winjeet
>>738203274>"saaar you english is berry bad">"lads this jolly nogger is mighty strange, I am very non-indian and I don't trust this controller one sausage!"
>>738203314what's next, new vegas isn't a tranny game because celeste exists?
>>738203413>fabio was just one of the pajeet shills all alongwell we already knew that much from the photo
>jeets and consoletards are pretending gyro/touchpads/all haptics shit work with xinput>when all gamepads like gamesaaar are using 3rd party softwareLOLLMAO
>>738203524who? the long haired dreamboat that graced romance novels back in the day?
>>738182978How is this a bad thing? Do retards not realize you can add non-Steam games/programs to your library and take advantage of Steam's features? I use a Switch Pro controller and already run all my emulators and games through Steam because devs are retarded and Steam's integrated controller support is a life saver.
>>738203650>full on copemode, ignoring the hated MS Paint drawing he cannot cry to mods aboutexcellent bait or fagio is seething.
>>738203703>switch>criticizing devsnice try eric but I know all these threads are just you and your obsessed crusade against nintendo
I got mine confirmed 2 minutes after the drop but I had to try 5 times before the transaction went through. I guess they underestimated the demand for this device.
>>738203729i have no idea what kinda schizobabble is coming out of your mouth. go make a new encylopedia dramatica or something so we can keep track of all these barry, eric, and fabio figures you dweebs keep yapping about.
>>738203879newfag
>>738182978m-mods will fix it!
>>738182978Valve doesn't given ownership of the games it sells to people, why would it give you ownership of it's hardware?Valve is a company of liars and frauds. They do not deserve your money for their consumer-unfriendly practices.
>>738204245>>738204272>saars stop buying it!>STOP BUYING IT YOU BLOODY BENCHODS!nope :)
>>738204312cope :)
>>738202775>basic drivers are upyeah, for linux only
>>738204353well yeah, they are the definition of itseething, lying, and desperately trying to stop people from buying a decent controller while its in stock.
Can't wait for my Vader 5 Pro to arrive. You niggas got duped bizzigly.
I boughtedI can retire my wired only gamesar
>>738204746the sheer shock and betrayal at their beloved gameSAAR being redeemed has silenced all of the pajeets crying.
>>738186885yes, nvidia cards work like trash on linux>>738187301but then i'd be stuck using radeon cards>>738187431it justwerks in about 60% of titlesthe others will run like complete ass
>>738182978GABE YOU ROTUND FUCK, LET ME BUY ONE
>>738205428>yes, nvidia cards work like trash on linuxworks fine for me
>>738205637can you even play games with that card?
>>738205637tell us what you're playingthe time i tried the first 10 games i tried worked great (lies of P probably the beefiest among them)Then I tried Oblivion Remastered and Hogwarts Legacy and they kept black screening me. Went back to Lies of P and it was fine.60% of stuff works, the rest just doesnt, not without you dicking around with stuff for awhile anyway
>>738205712yes>>738205768a variety of gamesI played Hogwarts back on my 3090 just fine when it came out on launch day im pretty sure, haven't revisited it since I finished it back then but it played great on the OG Steam Controller
>>738206012you're being dishonest here. If you have some weirdo AI card that you can't normally even buy and you've been running Linux for games since Hogwarts came out you're probably doing shit like writing your own drivers
>>738183789>4-6 hoursLMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAO
>>738183330Did you add more this time? I lost track of how much this has grown
>>738206093>that you can't normally even buythey are easily buyable directly through newegg business (I am not a business)>you've been running Linux for games since Hogwarts came outive been using it as my only OS for way longer than that by nowhell, I first got into it on my laptop when I went to college ~2014ish and didn't really ever look back afterwards
>>738206173t. writes his own driverschad overall but i dunno why you're telling people it "just works"also why do people run Nvidia cards with AMD cpu's, that shits weird.
>>738206245>t. writes his own driversnah, I don'tI do add patches to fix some stuff for the Bigscreen Beyond on Linux but I'm not a coder, just a SysAdmin monkey>chad overall but i dunno why you're telling people it "just works"nvidia loves their modern cards so if you're on the latest sloppa it usually works finemaybe a few games like Pragmata give you shitty luck with Ray/Pathtracing on certain driver versions but if you're on distro where you man move around on drivers its not so badAMD isn't perfect either, I ran a 7900XTX for years and ran into issues and break-fixes with that as well>also why do people run Nvidia cards with AMD cpu's, that shits weird.why would I? AMD CPUs are ballin for gaming and compute all in one
>>738206447you're also probably not just running the version of bazzite someone from here would click on, you're own some fancy distro and set up a bunch of stuff ages ago that the tranny devs forget about
>>738206682im using gentoo but afaik Bazzite has nvidia driver choices in its installerthat said, I would not wish an immutable distro upon anyone for their main PC
>>738206864Yeah it does, and they don't really work that well. That's the normal person experience. No one else is gonna manually configure gentoo.Mystery solved
>>738206926i mean the latest drivers for Nvidia are basically fine, so if the distro is up to date you'll be OK (still assuming you're on a modern Nvidia card because Nvidia only cares about those customers)you don't really have to get complicated with it these days
ok i buyed one. its 4 30 am here so if it sells out itll prob not happen until later today. it did give a warning that delivery might be late due to high demand tho
My Dualsense has been developing a drift issue on the left analog stick. It finally went to shit today right after I purchased my Steam Controller. Shit drifts up like a mother fucker and is hard to control suddenly. I've only had the controller for about 2-3 years. The timing was almost perfect.
>>738207354i just got replacement hal-effect or whatever sticks for my dualsense edge when i switched over to that and popped those in, they'll be fine forever
'ick on the 'eck
>>738207517Too bad I have a regular Dualsense. Basically just trash at this point. May need to look up how easy it would be to swap in TMR sticks on it. Maybe I can salvage it.
