What were they thinking?
>>738184628They were probably thinking about how the concept of something that vibrates itself through solid stone hard enough to alter geological trends was cool as fuck.
>let's make a really fucking cool scary looking creature>hell yeah
>>738184628Imagine someone hitting you with their intestines it would never hurt, only traumatize.
>>738184628Easily the worst fight in all of Monster Hunter, 10 minutes of slogging through the first phase, then 15 minutes of trying not to get sniped by triple back-to-back-to-back lasers
still less worse than zorah desu
>>738184628name a better big monster bossfight
>>738184628>"Let's make the greatest G rank final boss of all time"Little did they realize they would also go on to make the greatest final boss in all of Monster Hunter.To be fair, the bar wasn't that high to begin with
>>738184628kino molerat dragon.what does wilds have? bootleg dragons and what else?at least rise had literally satan and the sex dragons trying to turn your sisters into coomers.
They tried to one up the egyptian bugmancer mecha from GU so they went full retard with muh buddhism shit
>>738184628Yeah Pael is the worst ancient.
coming down like precipitationI ain't never met a limitation
>>738184628Heyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGW1voco1PA
>>738185721I think him and black vaal hazak in the jungle are the only hunts I ever lost due to time.
>>738184628I forgot, did this one have a dps check?
>Cool design>Cool music>Cool theme>Cool looking equipmentIt's amazing that they managed to use Gogmazios rig to make a fight that is actually pretty good, unlike Gogmazios, Gaismagorm and what have you
>>738184628whips insteado' wings
>>738185721>>738189027>worst fight in all of Monster HunterI'm gonna kick your ass say that again
>*gets stuck*>*runs around the ancient forest any time he gets tickled*>*spams aids AoE because fuck you*
>>738184628how come he never got an AT
I'm a SUPERSTAR so I gotta shine Top dollar be the bottom line
>>738184628I hate all the monster designs in World and Wilds.
>>738189626Too busy rushing a half baked MH Rise out the oven undercooked
>>738189558>gets threatened with a shower>runs all the way to the forest at the edge of the land and starts shitting it up instead of just flying higherwhy
>>738189626The coof fucked things up and they were unable to do things properly for iceborne
>>738184628Still the best final boss in Nu-MonHun. Not getting Arch Tempered version was a crime.
>>738189994All of them? You have a terminal case of contrarianism
>>738190187The skeleton and rigging is cool, the design is boring
>>738190356The fuck you mean it's boring, it looks hella cool when it's on fire What about his hungry lil bro
>>738190607Yeah idk its boring its a black blob then when its on fire its a block blob on fire
>>738190714You're a boring black blob bitch!!
>>738190187shitty narkakros
>>738190187Nakarkos is much cooler and more creative than this guy.
>>738190789>>738190863Narkakos is a bigass elder dragon that you fight on an island made up of the bones of its countless preys, of course it's gonna be cooler
>>738191013ESL moment
>>738184628>hmm... I think I'll make a monster with umbilical cords for wings
>>738188719>>"Let's make the greatest G rank final boss of all time"Too bad they failed.
>>738191129>sentence written in perfectly standard english>ESL
>>738190185i thought it was pretty bad and tedious
>>738190607>infinite spines and teeth>just swooces his way through the tiniest cracks everwhat the fuck
>>738191297Read what you posted out loud very slowly.
>>738192020That's maybe what you should do
>>738191013>Narkakos is a bigass elder dragon that you fight on an island made up of the bones of its countless preysZinogre’s just a Fanged Wyvern, but he’s still the coolest.
>>738191297Look up the plural form of "prey".
>>738192448I'm probably gonna make enemies for posting this, but I always thought Zinogre looked too much like a sparkledog OC donutsteel
>>738192457>Noun>prey (countable and uncountable, plural preys)
>>738184628
>>738192824You're right, P3rd/X/XX/Risebreak mons are all pretty garbage but /v/ sucks Ichinose's cock at every possible chance
>>738190071it's not even the same dev team what
>>738190187His fight sucks dick.
This was the last moment a world series game (world, iceborne, wilds) felt exceptional besides the wilds demo I suppose.
What fucking topsy curvy world are we in where this shit isn't cool to you?I hate hate hate world for what it did to this fan base but iceborne was actually decent and this boss was part of its good ideas. Its a shame wilds fucked it up even more
>>738193453Outskilled
>>738192897Whatever dictionary you pulled that bullshit from is hilariously wrong."Prey" is a collective noun. You don't pluralize it to use it to refer to a plural. "Many prey", not "many preys".
>>738184628Was its eye that looks at (You), the player at all times instead of the hunter like all other characters really necessary?What were they thinking with it?
>>738192897The fact you even had to look up a dictionary definitive for prey tells me you're ESL
>>738194861Apparently it doesn't actually look at the camera, that's an optical illusion.
>>738194861Thematically it's supposed to represent enlightenment. It has "three eyes", its armor looks like... that, and it's always looking past the fourth wall.
>>738195436it doesYou can see it if you load the 3D model in Blender
>>738190187i hate myself for saying this but the design is too simple. i have never played wilds but xu wu is my favorite design from it.
>>738197074>too simpleTo be fair, considering that it's the first monster with a Cephalopod skeleton (that isn't an Elder Dragon), it's better to undershoot the design than overshoot it
I have dragon and wyvern fatigueno seriously, i like every new monsters (even if they're suck) as long as they are not dragons, wyverns and the likes
>>738188595Fatalis, but you're not guaranteed to survive that one.
>>738193095
>>738190607Be still, my boner
>>738190187Great design, meh moveset. For a fire apex, his fire balls are really small and weak. Compare them to Rathalos or Ajarakan's fire balls. Their flames are bigger and have more impact, burning the ground and cracking it instead of splashing weakly. His flame thrower is decent, but it doesn't look as violent or as powerful as Rathalos's flame thrower or Gravios's beam. Most of his melee attacks are just variations of tentacle slaps. Why doesn't he try to impale you with the spikes on his tentacles, punch you like octopuses do, bury underground for understrikes, etc. They should really give him a move where he grabs and throws a rock or uses it as a weapon. He's already intelligent, incorporate tool use into his moveset. All of these issues can be addressed with his G rank fight though and they already did a fantastic job with Xu Wu's moveset so it shouldn't be hard for them to improve Nu Udra's.
>>738184628This is one of the much better final boss monsters in the series though.
>>738204998It's definitely the cheapest, I was rolling my eyes constantly at all the dumb snipe shit he did. All in all easy but incredibly cheap. Ahtal-Ka reigns supreme.
Is Wilds good yet?
>>738184628The OST and fight were ludo kino
>>738184628It was a cool base final boss, meanwhile I can't remember who was the final boss of World Base, Magdaros? Nergigante the return?
>>738184628That it was cool as shit?
>>738206218It has gotten marginally less ass over time, the rank 9 versions of monsters aren't as prone to getting completely stunlocked from wounds, it runs a bit better than it used to, but it's still kind of a shitshow. I guess the Lagiacrus fight is at least a more engaging fight than he is in GU, but that isn't a terribly high bar to begin with. Some of the AT varients are neat, AT Rey is probably what his base version should've been like.
>>738184628Good story boss fightGood monster designGood weapon designI don't know man, I think they were still thinking unlike with this faggot
>>738184834Can't believe capcom blatantly ripped off Radical Larry
>>738207274I meant this faggot, but the point still stands
>>738190187All the dev time that was wasted on the oversized maps in Wilds should have gone into more unique skeletons like the Cephalopods.
>>738184628forever ruined when he jobbed to nerg
>>738207908>level designers are also animation riggersI know /v/ is fucking stupid but god damn
>>738207994Should have hired more of the latter desu.
>>738207447Zoh Shia is pretty inoffensive though?The fight is okay to good, the visual design fucking blows and the music is forgettable, hardly one of the bad final fights of base games.
>>738207447so is he supposed to be some elder god thing on par with grandpa fatty?
>>738208193It's the closest thing we got to the equal dragon weapon of the old lore, the last line of defense of Wyveria and a self propagating bioweapon that would make Wesker salivate
>>738208350Honestly, I wonder if they are going to pull a Xeno;jiva and have it become a new monster in G rank; or just upgrade its moves and not much elseAfter all, it does have some remnants of Fatalis, but that could just be for shock/flair
>>738208904I mean, the entire Arkveld storyline did prove that guardians can somehow evolve beyond their original programming so it's not entirely out of the question for Zoh Shia to pull a Safi, I don't know whether they really want to do it again though, if you ask me it would be much more interesting to make us fight one of the things Zoh Shia was built to fight against in order to protect Wyveria, if the old civilization went through all the hassle of making monster clones and gene splicing shit into whatever the fuck Zoh Shia became there must have been some serious fucking threat outside of the sheer number of monster hordes (and fatty).
>>738209343Honestly, I think it was just the hordes and fatty; and they just wanted a final solution kind of thing.It's like dealing with an infestation. You either continually fight back against it (cloning and doing pest removal yourself) or try to get rid of it once and for all (Zoh and using a literal nuke on the source). It biting the asses of the people who did it is on a case by case basis
>>738209793Could be, there's 3.5 fatties out there after all without considering all the other black dragon tier threats, and Zoh Shia clearly has black fatty juice.Thing is when it comes to final bosses it would be disappointing to see a repeat of Safi so soon and World already played the fatty card and also did it as well as it could have so Milds needs something that is equally if not more convincing as a final boss for G-Rank and there's not a lot they can reuse from previous entries, especially since the base game already brought over Gog.Looking at previous entries outside of Frontier fuckery we have>Crimson/White FattyMight happen( grandpa especially) but I just don't see it, it's too soon>Akantor/UkanlosNot really believable threats unless they completely rework them and make up some bullshit story about them, might be okay midbosses for G-Rank though>CeadeusExtremely unlikely even if Lagi got his own underwater section>DalamadurThey've been sort of teasing Dalamadur ever since World put its skeleton in the Rotten Valley, wouldn't be surprised if they bring it back and would honestly like it if it gets the glow up Alatreon got, after all Milds Gog is also better than 4U Gog.>Ahtal-KahGiven how Milds is very focused on gen 4 fanservice I can it happen even if it's a Safi tier mid-boss before the true final boss of G-Rank, having it use some old Wyverian tech to make its own wyverian mech would be pretty dope>NakarkosAgain, not a believable threat in the grand scheme of things as far as Milds is concerned, but we do already have two octopi so the big squid is not really out of the questionOf course nothing stops them from making another bullshit guardian like Zoh Shia either, that would also work.
>>738184628probably about how they could avoid botching the final boss like they did in World
>>738206471>>738206897>>738207048>>738207274>>738210832crazy to me that anybody thinks this was a good final boss, it's almost as bad as Gaismagorm and the fight is incredibly boring for an endboss. does the fact that he have like 3 moves not register for you guys? this has to be World dickriding at its worse
>>738211090post your AT ark hunt time (no capture)
>>738211165it's like 18 mins, what does it matter?
>>738211090It has a lot more than three moves even if we ignore the firs phase
>>738207393kek that's a name i haven't laughed at in a while
>>738211361>finger lasers>laser canon (spams the most)>arm sweep (in front, under)>burrow underground... and then laser>biteam i missing anything? there's nothing going on in terms of move variety
Portable 6 will bring back Akantor and Ukanlos
>>738184628I thought he was cool as fuck and I liked his attacks too. I never remember his name though so I keep calling him salad fingers.It's weird. Rise should be the game I prefer but I just had much more fun with World despite so many problems.
>>738188832They set the bar too high with that one. Worldbabs also wouldn't like it, too campy.
>>738184628>Kill a giant hindu dragon>Next game is unoptimized ugly garbageWhat did Capcom try to say with this?
>>738212986Rise was unoptimized? in what universe?
>>738213035Rise is not Mainline and dont you fucking dare to imply my wives are ugly you faggot
>>738211701you can break every monsters moveset down into>bite>charge>fireball>tail swipedisengenous faggot
>>738213162Yeah it's not mainline, it's a watered down spinoff designed for literal children.
>>738214746>implying monster hunter isn't designed for literal childrenBro thinks he's tuff
>>738213162nah, it's mainline, Capcom confirmed there's no difference between teams and that both work on games for portable and consoles, stay madalso rise is a fucking masterpiece
>>738214550ever consider maybe you're being disingeneous with that suggestion? other monsters have much more varied movesets that are also bolstered by monsters actually having a personality, unlike gay retard earthbender faggot from a mediocre game
>>738216193>Shara>No personalityYou can just say you're a 3DS secondary
>>738216261stop dickriding, that monster is lame
>has a billion fucking health>is in the air all the fucking timeworst fight in the game
>>738216143>Defends rise>Has no reading comprehensionWhy do these two always go hand in hand?Especially since my post above was pro-rise.And now the platformwarring phase of the MH thread begins. Like a wheel, it goes in a circle.
>>738216330fatalis equivalent btwwe all have to pretend he's not a total shitmon
>>738184628KINO
>>738188957when will we get another good MH
>>738219724The player fantasy of hunting a monster is only fulfilled in the intended players if the monster is an actual threat.Unfortunately everyone in this fucking fanbase thinks their game is the sole one in which the monsters are real threats and every harder game is "bullshit" while every easier game is "casual".
>>738184628Sex
>>738184628>lets make a cool final bossand then they made a cool final boss
I think Narwa is decentP1 is lame but inoffensive and p2 is good
Seikret > Palamute
>>738191254By all means, post a better one. Your choices are:>MH Fatalis>Dos Yama Tsukami>P2nd Akantor>Freedom Unite Ukanlos>Tri Alatreon>P3rd Amatsu>3U Dire Miralis>MH4 Dalamadur>4U Gogmazios>Gen Nakarkos>GU Ahtal-Ka>World Xeno'jiiva>Iceborne Shara Ishvalda>Rise Allmother Narwa>Sunbreak Gaismagorm>Wilds ArkveldAll of them up until Xeno were plagued by giant or awkward models that hardly worked, atrocious hitboxes, or were just really easy fights that were scripted. Meanwhile, Xeno itself was just a giant punching bag.
shara is a cool monster, but it surprises me that it got so many fans
>>738221517>wil-e-coyote and roadrunner
>>738221517seikrets are honestly worst than raid riders. Like how do you go from fully controllable mount with verticality to a chicken that can't jump unless in scripted areas.
>>738184628>iceborne>final boss is sand themedholy KINO
>>738222185no shit sherlock
>>738184628Has anyone noticed how shitty all large scale siege monsters are in nu-MH? They don't emit the same sort of shock and awe that siege monsters like Loa Shan, Shen Goran, Yamu, Jhen Morang, Caedues, etc...They just feel like normal large monsters you fight in a arena...It's boring. Like they're just another normal. Monster or Elder Dragon.I think the issue is health scaling. They all die to quickly in nu-MH and you never make use of the repelling mechanic anymore. And the siege part is incredibly rushed and the damage you can do is minimal compared to weapon damage. Landing a Dragonator or Canon shots doesn't hit the same like it used to.
>>738216325>They don't emit the same sort of shock and awe that siege monsters like Loa Shan, Shen Goran, Yamu, Jhen Morang, CaeduesNone of those misspelled pieces of trash had any sort of shock or awe to them
>>738184628Head sniping Shara is fun.>>738190187Xu Wu has the better fight. Did we ever get a 9* event quest.
>>738222497Use the filename, retard
>>738184628They were thinking that they made some pretty good wife material.
>>738222367I'm honestly shocked the palamutes didn't return in Wilds. They were the most popular feature in Rise by a mile
>>738222765Riding on cartoon dogs looks retarded.
>>738222513Im honestly upset I can't fight the mohrans anymore. These guys aren't flashy or anything. But hunting them is the closest you'll get to the whaling. They're even better in g rank since they'll fucking attack you head on midway.
you know zorah being a platforming giant boss fight could be fun with wirebugs but capcom isn't ready for that yet huh
>>738222513I get this argument if you're specifically referring to Xeno'jiiva and Safi'jiiva. Kulve Taroth and Shara Ishvalda on the other hand are oozing with flavor. They absolutely deserve their mythical status.
kino themehttps://youtu.be/CFQj0sATr3o?si=tVhuUHwOWuYbhepd
>>738184628Iceborne is peak MH.
>>738184628Remember when you defeat it and then Nergigante comes to steal your kill for some gay reason?
>beat shara ishvalada (absolutely god awful terrible fight)>realize now i have to do the guiding lands to do everything else>delete the game from my pcayup. game ended with velkhana as far as i'm concerned
>>738223129>clutch claw and tenderize....?
>>738223319>nooooo I have to hunt monsters in the monster hunter game>save me Ichinose-sama
>>738223319You missed out on AT velk, that hunt was a blast
>>738223569man it was a fun fight for me. It felt like a mini fatalis where if I wasn't aggressive enough I'd actually time out
>>738223360zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>738223408more like>have sit through quite literally the worst grinding in the entire series forever to fight a bunch of monsters using the worst mechanic (tenderize) in the entire series (oh and if you don't use it have fun with your 45 minute hunts teehee!)>oh and one of them is a siege fight so it's also extremely cancer to do solo!yea no time to play literally anything else
>>738223876>say this>when Afflicted Grind exist
>>738223876>literally the worst grinding in the entire series foreverWhen games like 4U/XX/Sunbreak exist?>using the worst mechanicUnderwater combat was in Tri, not World>oh and if you don't use it have fun with your 45 minute huntsMore like 15 minute hunts, but thanks for confirming you're dogshit at MH like all 3DS babs
>>738223939at least that only unlocks risen monsters. literally half of iceborne's content is locked behind guiding lands
>>738184628they made a fucking banger of a song with shehnai thematic and needed a monster to slap it onhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFQj0sATr3o
>>738224091>More like 15 minute hunts, but thanks for confirming you're dogshit at MH like all 3DS babskek holy larper. why even bother, tranny
>>738223667>milds
>want to re-play World>remember you can't skip cutscenes
>Iceborne is peak MH.
>>738224158Unlike you I actually play games, if it takes you 45 minutes to finish any guiding land hunt because you're not tenderizing you're just godawful
>>738224158he's right and you're either shit at the game, or didn't even play it. since you think clutch claw is a big deal, probably latter
>>738224308>>738224343whatever you say, troons. you're the reason the series is so shit nowadays btw! enjoy the slop
>>738224489So you also admit you're not playing the modern games at all, 3DS babby indeed
>>738224489What a shining beacon of ignorance and misinformation. We should all strive to your example of unfounded hatred vaguely based on imaginations of reality.
>15 minutes to kill MR Odogaron is speedrun tierOh my lol
>>738224489thanks, I will!
>clearly he's talking about um... odogaron!ohh i see, they're all remedials. nevermind then
>>738221914Wilds' Gogma, unironically. Now if you say the problem is the game itself, I agree. Or the reused monster. However for all the game's fault, the fight itself is fine.
>>738184628Shara ishvalda is fucking cool though
15 minute MR Teo is speed tranny tier !
>>738184628Ok but what were they thinking with THIS?
>>738224984Safis design and gear are fucking sick. The fight is okay - fun when you get aggro and hear the heartbeat as you basically dance with him in properly playing around his shit with your moveset.
>>738224663As much as Milds' Gog is better than 4U Gog I don't really think it's better than Shara.For starters he's way too fucking big, first phase you're just scratching his arm wings and leading him onto lava traps and falling boulders, actually fighting him is a pain for most weapons as he spazzes like a retard making you waste time chasing his arm wings.Second phase is more of the same but he's not spazzing like the first phase and thankfully the elder breaker makes you skip it rather fast.Third phase is arguably the worst as you run around and take potshots with the compact guns until he falls over, then you wait until he starts the nova so you can do some actual damage to him outside of leading him onto more falling boulders.Again, it's better than the borefest that was 4U Gog and I admit that aiming for the embedded tarred weapon spots for extra rewards is a really nice mechanic, but I'd rather fight Shara honestly because it's a much more straightforward fight with less gimmicks, less chasing and way more incentives to actually use your weapon.Also Shara's theme>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Gog's theme
>>738224984>safi is now focusing (You)>music adds heart beating in the background>glowing eyes constantly follow you, while you go toe to toe with a massive dragon>no escapeKINO
>>738225160Milds Gog is boring because he only has 4 highly telegraphed ans generic moves. Shara has a really unique moveset and doesnt make you play starship troopers. Ive never heard anyone praise Milds Gog even on Steam forums with has the most hard-core and avid game defenders.
>>738225068>Safis design and gear are fucking sickIts the most generic looking dragon in the series
>>738214746And Wilds isnt with the focus shit? You don't even need to worry position anymore.GS is now the most baby of weapons.
>>738225463And that is a good thing.
>>738225463Just like Fatalis that's what makes it so good. A standard fantasy red dragon with the constellation built into its wings is tight.
>>738225552Fatalis existing is why it's a shitty design and a downgrade from Xenojiiva
honestly world is my favorite game in the series but i do think the tenderizing mechanic is a bit one dimensionalId argue its less so the fault of tenderize, but moreso Weakness Exploit being ludicruously overpowered. I think MHW would be a more interesting game if it was less about stacking the most generic free damage bonuses, and more about building things like Critical Draw, Frostcraft, etc
>>738184628>the foreskin monsterwill never stops make me kekk
>>738225327I honestly don't dislike the fight as far as siege fights go, but it's still too gimmicky for me to really enjoy, and again Gog is way too fucking big for his own good and anything that isn't the head or the arm wings is a shitzone so that rubs salt on the wound for me, at least Shara is small so you don't have to constantly run around to reach the arms or the head while half of the body fucks over your line of sight for most of the fight.I'd much rather fight Milds' Gog over Zorah, Jhen, Ceadeus, or any the first two gen sieges, but that isn't saying much.
>>738222367they should replace the retarded chickens with the dogs in the dlc, fuck these final faggotry garbage
>>738224984Safi should have been the final boss of World's base game. It comes at a completely random time, and only for the sake of being a an RNG grind siege.
>>738225472Crying about focus mode is reddit doomer behavior. Do better.
>>738225946*World's postgame
>>738225752Yeah but I dont think anyone considers Zorah a fight even by siege standards. Its like a platformer puzzle game then turns into a cannon shooter. Its easily the worst thing they've ever conceived in the entire series and the entire time they were developing thought sincerely they were creating the greatest fight in the series.
>World PS4 playerbase is so small, the BBC-coded pornstar name for my Huntress is recognised by randomsI love this game. I've been maining Lance after 1800 hours with Hammer in WorldI always thought it was slow and weak but it's actually funI've been trying to use Hunting Horn but it's not as fun or as strong as it should be
>>738222872I'm sure you know a thing or two about looking retarded.
>>738225674>I think MHW would be a more interesting game if it was less about stacking the most generic free damage bonusesThat's what I liked about endgame Sunbreak. Yes there was skill bloat, but once you had all the mandatory skills, you had to choose which of the conditional skills you wanted leading to a lot of different builds.AIDsSuper AIDsBerserkHeaven SentBuBFrostcraftscroll swappingbloodritedragon conversionetc
just port GU to pc already
>finish world tutorial >get dropped into a lobby with some dude talking to himself on open micKINO
>>738226231What the difference between AIDs and Super AIDs?
>>738218257Never, world was the DMC reboot attempt, but it succeeded and a bunch of useless faggots ate it up, bought the microtransactions and loved the easymode bullshit. If they ever make a real monster hunter again the faggots they purchased with their millions of dollars of marketing will throw screaming baby tantrums about the game being "clunky and too hard" because they'll actually have to fight MONSTERS. Rise was a fucking disgrace with how much of a joke even ELDER DRAGONS were made, and Wilds is basically a korean action game wearing monster hunter as a skinsuit.
>>738226694bloodlust vs derilection
>>738226764oops meant this one
>>738221914>3U G rank final bossDire Miralis was big, but the real final boss was Abyssal Lagi and everybody knows it.
>>738226819fair enough
>>738224663I agree with most of them, but making you feel powerless is what fighting xboxhueg monsters are all about, hence gimmicks. Thing is, not all gimmicks are created equal (mostly bad and boring at best) and Wilds' Gogma's gimmicks are at least acceptable for the fact that it didn't overstay its welcome. The shooting shit in the last phase also damages it substantially and its reward, Gog falls and stunned, is, well, rewarding enough.
>>738226848>AbyssalEveryone either used a lance/gunlance or went to the glitch spot with a ranged weapon. Fighting both metal Raths in Tower 3 was much more difficult.
Seeing everyone else shit the bed during the quicksand phase was always funny as fuck.
>>738224290AYOOOO THIS GAMEPLAY FIRE FR FR
>>738227776>sticky HBGYou didn't beat the game. Spread does way more damage anyways
>>738228034I did beat the game and the Beastbuster is like a HBG God's Isle. You use sticky 3 and para to lockdown and spread 3 and wyvern fire for damage and part breaking. I am an expert.
>>738228498>all hunts on faggot weapons>zero hunts on chad weaponsdisgusting
>>738227742Metal raths were harder, I'd say Lucent was harder too, but Abyssal was definitely the finale. It was the coolest fight against a version of the flagship monster elevated to elder-dragon tier, it was spectacular. It doesn't have to be necessarily the hardest fight to be the final boss, or people would say that some 140 double jang bullshit or that boosted DLC super crimson fatalis quest, or boosted DLC super apex savage jho would be the final boss of 4U.
im still seething that the best mh got ruined by a shit mechanic
Tri gave us the best girl Moga Sweetheart
>>738228983They just need to make one without gimmicks while nerfing the hunter.Like fuck man, Worldborne would have been 10/10 kino without tenderizing or cc.Risebreak would have been 10/10 kino without wire bugs.Milds would be ok without wounds or focus mode.
>MH without gimmicks tied to combatWrong series mate unless you wanna play FU forever.
>>738229335I don't think so. 3rd gens gimmick was underwater but like 5 monsters make use of it. I'm not counting it.4th gen had mounting but it wasn't intrusive and was really a dps loss outside of multiplayer.Combat gimmicks only started with generations.
>>738221914Wait was Narwa the final boss? I thought it was Primal Malzeno who is one of the best fights of the series.
>>738223569This fight seemed tailor made for us Great Swordchads. Smooth as hell.
>>738225068I hated the design. Xeno becoming Grigori was a huge letdown.
>>738230802Anon what do you think "final boss" means in the context of monster hunter
>>738184834Well it fucking is>>738207393ThisHe's so cool
>>738207447Zoh Shia is fine. Not the best but FAR from worst.This doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of things but I actually appreciate the lore they gave it being able to reconstitute itself as long as one piece survives which is why you can fight it over and over again. It was always a funny clash of story vs gameplay with how all these ancient one of kind monsters suddenly have tons popping up so you can hunt them over and over.Guardian Monsters was a underutilized concept. We should have gotten a bunch of chimera monster like Zoh Shia instead of a bunch of glorified recolors.
>>738231017I still wonder what could have been.Im afraid it's gonna be another adult gobul situation.
>>738231258I take that gobul bit back, this is way worse, I'm also pretty sure they dropped a teaser for it but nothing came of it.
>>738184628they were thinking>we should make a kino final bossand then they did
>jrpg>start by killing s fucking iguana>end by killing the god of earth that literally reshapes landscapes with his movements, creates tunnels that move bio energy across the entire world and his sounds literally turn all other monsters mad
>>738230950As fun as it for GS, Insect Glaive styles all over Velk. A lot of the ice bullshit you can actually jump over and not get hit out of the air, and Velk is long enough for a fat kinsect drill straight through the body.
>>738223569Velkhana is a fun fight but my god did they play it too safe with it's design. Should have gone with the Gryphon-like concept art.
>>738188775To be fair world also ended with a big powerful dragon that came out of a cocoon and there is no dlc for wilds yet, just shit ass cosmetics and some mons added.
>>738224275>what are mods
>make insanely cool final story boss monster>gear becomes obsolete shortly after>never gets any alternate quests or upgradesshara and gaismagorm are two of the coolest monsters in the series and they're reduced to fodder. nakarkos kind of counts toward this too
>>738230573Sure you can omit the combat gimmicks of 3rd and 4th gen.
>>738231591>>738231413Its even worse than that. >flag ship monster is reduce to being an ice piegon while Nerg take her spot light in her own story>Final boss didn't even die from your attack, Nerg kill the final boss instead
>>738218257Sunbreak was the only good one this past decade, so I guess we'll be waiting.
>>738231591At least we got layered weapons, though I'm sad that we'll never get the 2nd best hammer skin again.
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>>738231413I really liked that Monster Hunter managed to just mash two animals/dinosaurs together and get an interesting and unique set of monsters out of them. I understand that there's place for "just a dragon" design, but we already have enough with raths/kush/fatalis. It's also why I didn't really love Malzeno's design (fight is totally sick though).
>>738231849Nergigante is the Poochie of MH.
>>738229278True and tragic. Wilds also needs the handler to quit following you around running her mouth as well though.
>>738232801>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU'RE NOT AUTHORISED TO HUNT THAT
>>738232914>hunts it anywayBut you can't make the gear without the tickets!>make what?
>>7382293353rd gen's only gimmick was underwater, which was irrelevant 98% of the time and much less offensive than people pretend. Just don't be a dualblades only nigger and pick up any of the weapons that work fine underwater, or be a chad and use a lance. 4th gen's verticality was fine and while mount spamming wasn't great, it wasn't THAT bad either - Apex was just shitty cooldown timers and extra bouncing. GU had the anime bullshit begin, but it was optional, you didn't have to play the shitty parry style that trivialized the game. World was where the franchise sold it's soul.
>>738184628Shara is an okay fightIt's original Xenojiva that sucks
>>738233038>GU had the anime bullshit begin, but it was optionalGuild style did not use movesets from 4U directly. Multiple weapons got absolutely awful moveset changes that you couldn't escape, like lance and charge blade. Also Hyper monsters fucking suck dick. Fun game though. I wish deviants would return without the ticket shit.
>>738228542[Dismissive Wanking Gesture]
>>738216330His roar is the coolest in the franchise tho
>>738233038Yeah again if you ignore the series gimmicks then they basically dont exist of course.
>>738234240Nu MH goes beyond gimmicks and rapes the core gameplay to accommodate them and please casual fags that don't even like what monster hunter was about.
>>738190187Love the design of Nu Udra, but hate the flames and basic moveset. Honestly feels like it should have underwater battle mode.
>>738190187Haven't played Wilds for obvious reasons but this one is cool. I'm so tired of wyverns that I'll take anything different. Even the other monster that is kind of similar to this one is really great.
>>738232801You can hide her now in combat anon or swap for the dude.
>>738234240Go on and elaborate then. You keep saying that me and the other anon omitted it.
>>738209343I'm a little iffy on the lore, as it is, for MH, but wasn't the creation of shit like the EDW the reason that the EDs (specifically one, maybe more, of the Fatalis family monsters) decided to assfuck the world?What I'm thinking will happen is, Zoh will undergo some transformation that basically shows he is, in fact, a genetic blend of Fatalis and other monsters. We'll fight him off, but that transformation or awakening will have been sensed by something and it'll come to the area to eradicate Nu-Zoh. Now that I've said it, the part about something seeking out Nu-Zoh feels more like a post-expansion TU storyline than an expansion one. Maybe the expansion storyline will involve finding a new location that's connected to the energy pipeline that's full of evolved Guardian monsters and it also contains the sealed specimens that they used to create Zoh. Waking those up could be what triggers the transformation/evolution in Zoh.
>>738230802Allmother Narwa was the final boss of the base game's story. Primordial Malzeno is just a glorified super monster as are the arch tempered flagships.An argument can be made for Fatalis being final boss of the entire World saga since it also wraps up the New World Hunter and Ace Cadet's character arcs.
>people complain Teostra and Kushala Daora are in every game>Wilds cuts them>people complainThe true elder dragons really do carry Monster Hunter's endgame. When are we finally going to see all four in one game again?
>>738238061They should just do a new trio, like Nami, Vaal, and Velk.
>>738238061And anyone who complains they're not in a game are retarded and do not deserve to be heard.
The 5 apex monsters are functionally elder dragons, retards. They are in a class above most normal monsters.
>>738222879sauce on the page? looks cool
>>738238630Reply like a man. And I disagree.
>>738238061>>people complain Teostra and Kushala Daora are in every game>>Wilds cuts themAre you retarded? They event made Daora look more "heroic" in this version.
>>738238697Apexes are actually better than elders since they are the opposite. They are the keystone species that keep their respective ecosystems together.
>>738223129me when Ive only played one monster hunter
It's time to accept the fact that gen 4 is overrated
>Rajang comes back for Wilds G>He's allowed to go beyond monke due to focus mode and seikrets being in the game>And he'll grab your weapon and suplex you if you try to offset or powerclash him
>>738239586People will just wait for its attacks and counterslop it to death
>>738239586Bring back Jho, but Jang needs to take a break. Let Ajarakan be the rape monkey this time.
>>738239707yep just like rise
>>738239786>Let Ajarakan be the rape monkeythe discount rajang fails at that already
>>738223667would
>>738239786Arkveld is the Deviljho/Rajang/Bazelgeuse of Wilds
>>738229278I actually like the bugs, but I agree that them being time-based is retarded and encourages a retarded kind of gameplay where you can just spam them and wait until cooldown is over to do it again. Just make them recharge on hitting monsters and they're instantly fixed.
No one ever knows which MH to start with
>>738241828just start with the best one
>>738215614only portableslop games are, that's why they always giga-casualize whatever mainline game of that gen
>>738242439Ok*puts Rise in (no sun break)*
>>738191612nah he looks cool, moveset was cool, gimmick wasn't annoying.
>>738184628It looks like foreign, weak, and with very female moves.
>>738219724But then the studio has to put actual time and effort into making a good easy mode, which could be spent ironing out any other aspect of the game. If you don't the easy mode might not be enjoyable to play and you end up with a lot of disgruntled players who perhaps had no business even playing this game to begin with
>>738184628>that attack when you're behind it where it's head practically clips 180 degrees and it spews a laser directly at youI almost piss my pants every time
>>738221517Visually yes, I fucking love SeikretsGameplay wise though I dislike how they automatically follow the monster, and how they give you a get out of jail free card when you get knocked down
>>738189379Frontier fanfic doesn't count.
>>738184628More of a fun fight than AT Xeno-Jiiva that's for sure
>>738235505I can definitely see them do a water variant for the expansion
>>738238630>Can be trapped and captured outside of Jin Dahaad>Relatively down to earth, no weird magical bullshit nobody can explain>Do not fuck up their environment to the point we need to put an end to themThe closest you can get to Elder Dragon tier is Jin because it's not possible to capture it and the amount of destruction it can cause is definitely close to EDs, but demi-elders like Gore are a thing too so there's that, for the rest they're just a retread of the fated four
>>738244516Demi-elder is such a moronic cop out, I don't get why they're so afraid to just call Gore what it is, an elder dragon. There is no taxonomic difference between the Magalas, they are the exact same species. There's less physiological difference between Gore and Shaggy compared to say, Basarios and Gravios, but we don't call Basarios a demiwyvern. Do they think having one elder dragon that's not arbitrarily immune to traps is going to shatter the natural order? Are they afraid of spoiling the plot of a 13 year old game?
>>738245382The entire ED definition is just bullshit to begin with considering Kirin or Nakarkos are supposedly dragons according to the guild, it's just short for "we don't know how the fuck they work" so I can see why something like Gore is classified as demi.Writing wise it's the same age old problem of Capcom being deathly afraid of putting anything in the game that isn't a dragon/wyvern, EDs are basically their in-lore super bosses so they had to give that definition sparingly, but now that the series is decades old and the amount of bullshit is ramping up a lot of normal mons are, understandably, perceived as EDs.After all when Kushala is one of biggest posterboys for EDs and the current normal mon is something like Rey Dau it's hard to blame people for thinking that.
>>738238061After World I never want to see Kushala ever again. I don’t care if he was ok in Rise.
>>738246920he was worse in oldgen but oldfags will deny it and say just use poison
>Greatsword moveset is about hitting as hard as you can, with lots of charging and waiting for the perfect moment to land those hits>Hammer moveset is about spinning around and repeated attacksI am convinced that the movesets got switched around during production and they accidentally shipped with them and were too embarrassed to admit to it so they never got switched back
>>738247052>slot in wind reswow such hard
>>738247150>*black wind*also, >just use flash bombs>just use lbg>just hunt with buddies>"GUYS OLD MH WAS SOO GOOD YOU HAD TO REEEALLY PREPARE FOR HUNTS BY GETTING THE DIRECT COUNTER TO THE MONSTER'S GIMMICK THAT MAKES IT IRRELEVANT"
>>738185721Definitely not the worst fight but yeah, the spectacle hard carries it and the actual fight is pretty lame.
Absolute fucking kino https://youtu.be/CFQj0sATr3o?list=RDCFQj0sATr3o
>>738221914>GU Ahtal-Ka>Sunbreak GaismagormBoth of these were great
>>738223667there's like 5 monsters with fist wings and I'm already tired of itI want more alien monsters like namielle and oltura
>>738224290>clutchclaw slopclimbing mechanics are too fucking gimmicky, just let me grab onto the cunt through the combo like the SA move or make it like dragons dogma
wilds is dogshit
>>738243398> how they give you a get out of jail free card when you get knocked down>Omega has a bunch of moves that punish getting up normally and except you to call your Seikret to escape. >Half the playerbase suddenly forgets it’s a thing.Omega is such a shitter exposer it’s crazy. Ironic how the best fight in the game by far is the crossover event.
>>738224984>one of the most dangerous monsters is just a really fucking huge, normal-looking dragoni really liked that idea a lotit works because he's in such sharp contrast to all the crazy designs and gimmick monsters and then safi is just really big, strong, fast and durable, with the most prototypical 'dragon' design because that's what works
>>738247501Ahtal-Ka is a glorified cutscene and I'm sick of people jacking off this """fight"""
I quit World before Sunbreak but I heard they're taking the servers offline which means no Behemoth in 2027.How much would I have to play to fight one?
>>738245382Elder dragons aren't really a coherent group like winged wyverns, fanged beasts or whatnot. I think it's more of a designation for monsters that are very rare, dangerous and ancient ( bonus if they can produce dragon element )
>>738237001What is there to elaborate? If you ignore underwater combat, ledges, aerial attacks, mounting etc then there is no gimmicks and it didnt start until XX or World. I am not here to convince you otherwise.
>>738248402But they already did that with Fatalis so it falls flatIf Safi was a standalone design it'd be whatever but it retroactively ruins Xeno
>>738252332It was supposed to be a Dragon's Dogma crossover with Grigori, but they scrapped it.source: me
>>738231512the mod breaks in iceborne and there's a handful of base game cutscenes that straight up either crash the game or make it impossible to complete a mission
>>738252332Fatty doesn't start off as a weird alien like sorta thing.Besides it's not like MH doesn't love repeating itself when it comes to mons designs.
>>738254409I've read that Fatalis is an extradimensional being, and in older MH games there's lore bits about it only showing up after the sky is rent (akin to a portal opening). Black Dragons in general have wonky lore because Capcom only relatively recently started actually adopting the concept of Black Dragon.
