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*ruins your party's group dynamic and dialogue*
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>>738187069
Morgana being an annoying know-it-all is at least excused by him just being a device to feed exposition and hints to the player. Makoto is just an overbearing bitch for the sake of it
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>>738186886
Ryuji is too stupid to be your second-in-command like Yosuke.
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This game gave been fun if it had 50% less pointless characters and padding
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>>738186886
She is so smart for pointing out the most obvious things that the rest of the cast cannot do since everyone's IQ points were siphoned away into Makoto fund.
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>>738186886
lol wouldnt it be fucking hilarious if she let out one big stinky brap while she's inside the morgana mobile lol haha
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>>738187419
Legitimately 70% of the dialogue could be removed and the entire story will be the same. Fatlus either bloats their game with 50 different ways of telling you something in fagsona or a barebones "okay go kill god or some shit" story in SMT games
Zero inbetween
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How can anyone stand to play a persina game as an adult, I just don't get it. Every single character in these games instantly makes me want to punch them in the face, there is not a single tolerable character in ANY persona game. JRPG writing in general is just atrocious because they're made for angsty Japanese teens.
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>>738186886
I don't even really understand what they were going for with her character. Like did they think just having a motorcycle persona would make her seem badass?
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>>738187501
What story? There barely is one.
>get powers and get told you're special by dream man
>stumble into taking down generic cartoon villain of the week for 100+ hours between grinding social links with a needlesly bloated roster of characters
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>>738187582
She was supposed to be repressed little miss perfect leraning how to put her hair down and not act like an autistic NPC. Except that they forgot to write the second part.
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>>738187582
Dev interviews revealed that Makoto ended up as an amalgamation of ideas that were meant to be split up between her and another female party member who eventually was repurposed into Hifumi. Chances are Biker Queen was meant as the identity for the shogi player but it was passed off to Makoto when they couldn't do another whole Phantom Thief in time.
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>>738187316
It's a miracle he can breathe on his own, fucking retard. Can't think of a bigger moron in video games.
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>>738187897
>when they couldn't do another whole Phantom Thief in time.
sounds like bs when there’s already a whole phantom thief that they barely used
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>>738187897
>the shogi player
That would be way better, she was more interesting despite having the least dialogue in the game iirc.
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>>738186886
>10 years later
>Still best girl
>Still causes seethe

Truly a waifu for the ages.
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>>738188002
Haru being half-baked as well just shows you how overambitious they wanted to be with the game but sorely ran out of time for everything.
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>>738186886
While this is true, it wasn't very good; especially after Yuusuke's dungeon.
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>>738188225
>When it was decided that Makoto would be the brains behind the protagonist's team, we also had plans to add another more radical-minded strategist
But Morgana already exists, and Futaba; both characters that fulfill similar functions. It's insane that they considered adding another one when there's already too many.
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>>738188448
Need at least 3 more to offset Ryuji's idiocy.
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>>738188554
It's not like they offset it. They just all take turns making digs at him which only bloats the dialogue even more.
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>>738187316
>>738187965
.t morgana
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>>738188225
>Makoto would be the brains behind the protagonist's team
Interesting. Outside of them telling me she's smart Makoto herself never does anything that makes her seem smarter than anyone else especially the other smart characters like Morgana and Futaba. Even Yusuke came off as more intelligent, but everytime he said anything meaningful he got instantly dismissed even though he would have saved everyone a lot of time if they just listened.
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You have to be seriously mentally ill to think Persona 5 is anything near a masterpiece. Most overhyped "game" ever.
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>>738186886
Eh, Persona 5 was kinda mid plot and character-wise. It got hard carried by music and its aesthetic UI.
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>cute
>fluffy
>big forehead for smooches
>intelligent
>business-minded
>guaranteed pure because she was going to be handed over to fagwagon as a virgin wife by her dad but that failed
>persona and metaverse weapons are all violent as fuck which means she will do kinky shit in bed
>will make you fresh coffee from the beans she grew every morning while wearing a naked apron
>only s. link in the game to blatantly be into (You) except for Kasumire
Imagine picking anybody other than the canonical wife.
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>>738186886
I'M THE BRAINS SO I'LL BE THE LEADER, I'M VERY INTELLIGENT BTW
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>>738188648
More interesting than the so called main plot anyway. Make it 50 hours of bullying him.
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>>738188915
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>>738188554
Does Ryuji win some kind of award for fastest flanderization ever? They set up a pretty interesting guy and then he just turns into a blumbering cartoon after the first few hours
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>>738187069
Morgana is excused by being extremely fuckable
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>>738189968
Ryuji has some of the best growth in his actual Confidant quests, but the problem with Persona writing is that they don’t incorporate a character’s rank into any main story interactions. So all the major plot beats have to be written as though the average player doesn’t do any of the side stuff. And it undermines the significance of him running on his bum leg on Shido’s ship because most players won’t even remember why his injury matters to his character.
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>>738187419
This game also took forever to come out and theres such a clear drop in quality after Kamoshida that its easy to see where development took a nosedive
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>>738189781
morgana pops me every time
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SEX
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You love anal
You love cocks in your ass
Anal turns you on
Anal makes you a horny slut
You are a butt slut
You want your ass groped
You want your ass pounded
You will only be able to cum through anal
You will flaunt your ass
You want your ass to grow bigger
You will workout to get a bigger ass
You want your ass filled
You will stuff your ass with a butt plug
Your are a plugged submissive butt slut
You, are the Anal Queen
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>>738192964
I ain't getting through all that...
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>>738186886
WOW MAKATO YOU ARE SO RIGHT YES QUEEN
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>>738189968
Ann's flanderization is faster
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>>738186886
I like that they do the same thing with Akechi but they're all blowing smoke up his ass, but they play it completely straight with Makoto and it's kinda cringe.
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>>738186886
you posted wrong picture, here you go
>wow futaba, you are so smart!
>thanks futaba, you saved!
>we would be so screwed without you futbaba!
>you can do no wrong futaba!
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all the characters in p5 suck fuckin dick if you're not 15 years old
Except sojiro
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>>738193972
But Futaba actually has meaningful and OP skills to be praised for, Makoto is only smarter than anyone by merit of the writers forcing everyone else to be dumb.
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>>738193972
This. The PT needed someone with an actual brain. Futaba is just endless deus ex machina bullshit and le ebin haxor jokes.
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>>738194432
P5 character lose IQ points the second they step outside their own arcs
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>>738194432
>the writers forcing everyone else to be dumb
This gets repeated a lot but it just isn't true.
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>>738194481
this
it's even worse for harwho because she barely even got an arc to begin with
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>>738188215
>2 worst female characters get the top spots
>a blank slate npc is number 1 for guys
this is a real eye opener for how awful the taste is for the average persona fan
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>>738194713
>average Japanese Persona fan
FTFY
Remember, these are always the polls specifically from Japanese players. They have the worst tastes of any region, which is why game devs routinely express shock when they see international fans love the Ryujis and the Kanjis of the franchise.
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>>738195270
Why are Japs incapable of good taste?
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>>738189968
They needed a punching bag character like previous bro characters but also needed a group punching bag to show how smart and awesome Makoto and Futaba are.
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>>738193268
I believe in you, Anon!
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>>738195362
Too much chink intermixing has weakened their aryan bloodline over the decades and caused a rise in bugman taste, very sad
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>>738194432
>but it's okay if they do it for a whore i like!
ftfy
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>>738195923
Owari da...
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>>738188215
>I am a sheep and a pleb and proud
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Who ordered the BIG SAD?
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>>738195270
Did the japs coom over being groomed by the teacher or is it a western thing?
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>>738186886
M A K O T O S E X O
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Ann and Yosuke lost relevancy the moment their arc ended, Ryuji had one good moment on shino's palace that was ruined by japanese humor.
Ryuji never had the depth of Yosuke or Junpei, Yosuke was basically the leader in p4, he is the one laying the whole thing on the table and pushing the plot forward, even when Naoto comes he doesn't take a backseat because he is basically filling out Yu's role most of the time.
Junpei was important and was getting development the whole game.

Makoto is basically p5's Yosuke with some Naoto traits mixed in, she is plot relevant pretty much the whole game, she takes on the leader role since mc is mostly silent, pushes the plot, etc.
Makoto has two palaces on the main plot, the bank and the casino, she was meant to be the second most important party member from the start. hell there are drafts of Makoto and Akechi being brothers or Ren living with Makoto and Sae, she was always meant to be more important than the rest
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>>738194067
Based
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>one of the villains is a male teacher grooming high school girls
>"FUCKING PEDO, HE DESERVES TO DIE!"
>one of your love interests is literally a female teacher grooming (You), a student
>"Oh my God, she's so fucking cute abd wholesome. Grooming that 16yo boy with BDSM roleplay. I'm gonna CUM!"
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The best girl in the game by a mile, this is one of those cases where Japan is right on the mark.
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>>738187069
Cat sex
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>>738199792
I was very confused why none of the guys simped for her. Was she really that brutally mogged by Ann?
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>>738194713
>implying Makoto and Sumire are not best girls
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MAKOTO IS AN UNBEARABLY BORING FUCKING BUG WOMAN IT BOGGLES MY MIND HOW ANY ONE OF YOU RETARDS COULD THINK THIS WENCH HAS ANY VALUE AT ALL
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>>738186886
Does she watch GDQ?
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>>738186886
Okay but she's hot so I don't care
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>>738199715
Kawakami never shows any active interest. Joker is the one seeking her out.
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>>738186886
She's a good and understanding woman!
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More baffling to me was transformation of Ann into a complete bimbo. At the start around kamoshida she is just a normal sexy girl. Once kamoshida is out of the picture she becomes legit retarded.
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>>738199715
>didn't play the game
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>>738186886
Genuinely think the game could've been better if Yusuke was the last "main" party member and the others just had individual arcs but didn't stick around. Futaba can be still the helper I guess. Persona is too set on having a big ass party.
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>>738196468
The issue is mostly how those are presented. In P4 for example, the only ones that are there when you point at the culprit are Yu, Yosuke and Naoto while the rest of the party is inside eating, you could potentially just take some of them out and the end result would be the same. But because the game is more focused on the team as a group, it's not really bad and they still contribute when they can.

The problem with P5 is that Naoto basically becomes the only competent member of the group, discounting Futaba being the wild car that can do whatever the plot needs them to do, while the rest just become yes men at best and conflictive retards at worst. And the group dynamic is much weaker than in P4 so they just feel superfluous. And this heavily contrasts with P3 where each party member has their game long arc that ties to the main story and theme, except perhaps Fuuka and Koromaru.
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>>738200891
>sucks your cock the moment you say you want to keep seeing her
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Makoto Nishima hit the whole team with the stupid beam and stole the entire show from them with her big fat ass and cute little feet

undeniably the sexiest Persona girl
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>Bimbo and Dumb Retard: "We are NOT just Bimbo and Dumb Retard!"
>Immediately becomes Bimbo and Dumb Retard after first dungeon
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>>738204164
Was the first dungeon written by a different team or it was done first and then they did the rest of the game?
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>>738204515
It feels like every place mission had a different writer
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>>738204515
>or it was done first and then they did the rest of the game?

Opening tends to receive extra attention because that's the period when the game has to sell you on the idea that it's worth playing, most people don't really drop a game if they've reached the midpoint or later. Often devs even make the opening segment the last thing they do after they're more experienced so that it's the most polished and well designed part of the game.
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>>738203553
Joker is pretty kinky
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>>738199715
>he can't tell the difference between coercion and consent
Many such chuddos.
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>>738186886
The groups dynamic is just highschoolers who hate adults because the adults in the game are all assholes. Yes, P5 easily has the worst story out of the trilogy by a large margin and when you make your game 75% of said story it turns out its total garbage.
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>>738186886
she fixed the game.
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>>738187316
>second-in-command
The phantom thieves are Joker's dictatorship
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The gang ragging on ryuji for his backpack for the hawaii trip is absolutely retarded. That thing goes from his beltline all the way to the base of his skull. Probably a good 40 liters by my eyeballing. Maybe more. I would go as far as to say it might even be more volumous than the rest of the guys luggage bags. And it is only like a 5 day vacation too. I have gone on trips like that with a 20 liter backpack just fine. Felt like such a stupid scene for no other reason than poorly justified ryuji slander. My only guess is that nips dont do much traveling so they have no concept on how much luggage a person is expected to carry.
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>>738187542
>because they're made for angsty Japanese teens.
lmao they are made for 30 year old japanese men, 30+ men are the majority of jrpg players
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>>738205971
It's actually a democratic process where representatives vote on the course of action.
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>>738188225
>Makoto eternally mogged by the Shogi autist side character
So totally based
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>>738192964
>>738193268
>>738195907
Sonic plushie
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>>738188225
>once we decided she was into shogi we decided to give her an air of intelligence
lmao
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>>738206073
The definition of 'democracy' is 'a government run by jews'.
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>>738206197
If you're schizophrenic, sure.
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>>738196143
was waiting for someone to post it
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>>738202323
The early game 4 man squad of ryuji, ann, morgana and MC was peak.
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>>738207715
This. It falls off hard after the 2nd dungeon.
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Ann gives me coal burner vibes
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>>738208746
>sees white woman
>heh, I know what happens now
wew lad
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>>738208746
I'd honestly just kill myself if all I was able to think about when looking at an attractive woman was naked black men.
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>>738187316
Ryuji doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same breath as the rest. He's a blithering idiot and ruins any scene he's in.
The cat sucks too; the story around the 5th palace is an awful slog.
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>>738205867
Nah. 3 has the worst story by far.
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>>738186886
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>>738186886
Should have stayed as Kaneshiro´s slave
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>>738209916
Trvke
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>>738187069
Everyone who hates Morgana played the English dub.

In Japanese, Morgana is Pikachu, and you can't hate Pikachu (or Sango)
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Persona 2 remake remake when?
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>>738196041
>"I am a contrarian who hates popular character out of principle and have no independent thought of my own and proud."
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>>738210371
would.
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>>738187316
Morgana and Futaba are better VPs than Makoto
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>>738186886
Anal...
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>>738194713
God I want to have sex with Kawakami. Does that make me gay?
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>>738186886
Wait... so to open this door we have to subtract 40 from 100. 100 minus 40 is... uhhhhhhh...
>60
Wow you're right! Wow Queen you're so smart!
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>>738186886
you guys have been doing this for over a decade
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>>738216761
we will continue to do it for another decade if persona 6 doesn't release before then
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I remember not being able to decide who to romance - shogi JK or goth doc.
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>>738217275
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>>738217275
For me it's Takemi or Kawakami.
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>>738210371
Love brat
Love rat
Love cat
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>>738218227
love smug
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>>738216610
If you mean anal "sex" then yes
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>>738186886
>ruins your entire series
>spawns an even worse sub-sect of fans
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>>738219894
>thing I don't like why would they do this
Classic chuddo development pattern. There is no cure.
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>>738186886
hate the trope of the "smart" character when all they really do is point out extremely obvious things that the player has figured out long before they open their fuckin gob
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>>738219894
>>ruins your entire series
eh I wouldn't go that far. annoying fans and persona also go hand in hand, always have.
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>>738219894
>>spawns an even worse sub-sect of fans
For real!
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>>738220523
lmao, based fujo queen.
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>>738218070
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>>738220276
Read what I typed again bub
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I found Ryuji to be even more annoying. He is just there to be everyone's punching bag, but contributes nothing.

The main cast is carried so hard by Yosuke, Anne and Morgana, it's not even funny.
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>>738222604
I am tired of this shit tier fujo propaganda. Ryuji is a bro, Ryuji is based.
>OOOOOOOOOO M-MUH EMO TWINK
Cringe.
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>>738187316
>>738187965
Hey Morgana, do me a favor and bite down in this for me, would you?
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>>738186886
*is useless*
kinda tracks
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>>738222604
>Morgana
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>still no route where you can save Akechi and romance him

This makes me sad.
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>>738186886
The Phantom Thieves should have been the original 4 and nobody else. Every new party member introduced is worse than the previous one.
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>>738224225
fuck you Yusuke is way cooler than the annoying mascot character and the blonde bimbo
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>>738224225
5-6 max is best, somewhere near what DDS did.
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>>738224402
Anne is a complete waste of time ay, actually useless and nobody cares about her. I care more about the teacher and chess girl than her.

Kinda shocked Sae never became a playable.
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>>738224402
Yusuke is an annoying sperg that can't function in society without Joker tardwranling him. Broke ass nigga.
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>>738224486
he just like me fr
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>>738188915
Her entire personality is "Sweet Doormat".
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>>738224180
Get pancaked, idiot.
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>>738224225
My thoughts as well. Except have Futaba replace Morgana
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At least we had Sumi.
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>>738186886
I like how Makoto gets Haru tier filler dialogue whenever Akechi joins and takes over as the smart one
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>>738224713
will she also walk around naked and sleep on top of Joker like Morgana does?
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>>738219894
>ruins your entire series
Difficult when it's the last of the series.
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>>738224926
Akechi is so fucking forced in Royal, bro. Like fujos got their day and the rest of us suffer. Motherfucker I can't belive they let him be part of the team. Haru should have stabbed him the moment she saw him still being alive. Fucking Persona 5 is so gay when it should have been the most edgy game instead.
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>>738224643
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>>738225095
pffft, atlus forces every character in persona 5.
Akechi could have been a lot better though. You'd think he's be the first boss of the game and then the game becomes about freeing other people like him from their "shackles". Instead he's just kinda tacked on as this celebrity investigator shit which is sooooo stupid.

That's like Fran Von Karma being a lead prosecutor at 13.
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>>738225215
It's like shoved in my face how he's my rival and he's very important to me and I should give him attention and kisses when no one is looking. At least it was a breath of fresh hair how edgy and evil he is when he is in the party. Too bad the writers couldn't use him right.
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Man, Futaba aged so poorly. Even in 2015 or whenever the game came out, the internet had completely changed already. Strikers was actually more accurate with AI in the end, though a little too optimistic. It's aged sooo much better than P5R and it's take on the internet.

Also, thank god the DRM has been cracked, Atlus is finally free of the negative publicity it was giving them. Now things feel like how it used to be with them for me, which is far more positive and audience building. Lawyers just need to fuck off, they don't know what they're doing anymore with these things marketing wise.
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>>738225317
Eh, at least you did get some tender moments. But really it would have worked better if he was Ryuji and the closest to the MC. Both characters have the same enemy in the end.
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>>738196143
Big sad for ants.
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>>738193352
Its actually really fucking strange in that their interactions with each other remain rich and complex, and they retreat to their 'masks' only around the rest of the team which can lead one to conclude that they are uncomfortable and unfamiliar with the new members. And then this is never actually addressed in the game.
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>>738225679
>Its actually really fucking strange in that their interactions with each other remain rich and complex
Not really. It's just that most games suck at it.

To me it was their bizarre interactions and the humour that hooked me. A lot of uncanny too. Atlus is always like this for me. It's almost their brand now kek.
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>>738187717
This got me thinking. Why does Joker have the wild card? Door-kun has it because he literally had death sealed inside him, and Chad had it because he was literally given a super-persona by Izanami.
Joker is just some schmuck. There was no external stimuli.
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>>738225920
Because Joker was suppose to be the ultimate rebel, but instead he's a tool that does what others tell him most of the time. He was suppose to be a rebel but he's a boy scout for the current status quo.
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>>738225920
Doorkun was vorn with the wildcard, the entire reason he had death sealed in him was because 10 year old MC was awake during the midnight hour which made him the only thing aegis had on hand. It can even be argued that the reason death happened to flee in his direction and aegis happened to chase specifically that arcana are both because the wildcard was in play.
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>>738226104
Idk, his parents were there too. I just think it's a case of dipping into the Dark Hour, just like Ken's mom. Doesn't necessarily mean you have the potential.
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>>738226254
there were tons of people on the midnight bridge that night. aegis explicitly states that only one of them was suitable as a vessel.
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>>738224402
Ann is a fun laid-back girl, way better then Makoto or Futaba.
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>>738186886
What group dynamic? Ryuji and Ann had their own thing running. MC was literally the 5th wheel and Yusuke is living in his own world.
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>>738226757
Personally i'd prefer ann to be a fun riding-position girl
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>>738187069
I almost bought a morgana ass mousepad for a friend
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>>738186886
I would of made her more of a straightman who reluctantly goes along with the parties antics
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>>738209590
How? Persona 3's story is literally one of the best in the franchise
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>would of
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>>738227478
Having a single straightman in a full group is dumb because then everyone else gets flanderized for "comedy." Same with having a singular "smart guy" character, because it just makes everyone else dumber. Groups that size need to have everyone playing the straight man, wise guy, smart guy, dumbass roles based on what's consistent for their characters.
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>>738227958
There's a moment in the anime in the casino fight where everyone is cheering for joker fighting a guy and makoto is like wtf but eventually goes along with it awkwardly. It was kino. It's the only part of the anime I saw.
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>>738210371
I played with the JP voices. Morgana had a fucking annoying voice in Japanese too.
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>>738227478
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>>738210371
It amuses me more than it should that literally the sole reason for the rat transformation gimmick is so they had a reason for her to use her Pikachu voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNDXveEBJ-Y
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>>738228551
This is prepawsterous!
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>>738186886
the entire party dynamic of persona 5 is irredeemable and completely ruins the game. All the characters are simply too boring by themselves and unlike the cast of p4 they don't have even a little bit of chemistry, their only purpose is gargling joker's balls or being punching bags to make joker look cooler.
because these games are for teenagers and japanese manchildren that want to self insert as the guys the envied in highschool
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>>738230224
It really is just Makoto. Even Futaba would've been tolerable since she would've been the youngest. But the soul of the game is sucked completely out once Makoto joins.
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>>738210371
I can't hate Chopper. She does a good job; it's just the character is annoying. Same with Ryuji; VA performances are really good, but the dude is garbage.
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>>738188915
She's a business woman.
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>people still hate Makoto
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>>738219894
I was here then so i can tell you it was already bad after P4 youtube videos and tumblr catching on it.
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>>738219894
I played P3 then P4 then P5, in that order, starting with FES, and I only played P5 because I liked P4 (didn't like P3 that much but it was alright)

The fanbase isn't even that bad compared to other video game fanbases, and it did not become significantly worse.
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>>738231252
>Futaba
How did they create a scenario where it's just "well she is sleeping for weeks now". That's the best they can come up with? At least put her in a hospital setting then.
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Hey Suzui.
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>>738187069
/thread
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>>738224486
That's what makes him based
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>>738187069
Best kitty.
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>>738224486
P5 party members hit different in JP.
Yusuke is Sugita. Ryuji is Mamo. Akechi is going full out. They changed the whole plot because the VA of Igor died.
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>>738234079
Wait, do people itt actually play this shitty english dub?
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i tend to fill my teams in these games with only dudes and whatever the token major character is
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>>738193972
Her retard intervention segment was so fucking awful and long. I feel like it was based off one of the writers erotic novels they always wanted to write or something. It obviously had a lot more effort put into it than other characters stories. But that didn't save it from being an anti fun cringe fest
> ok now I get to go have fun in town?
> no just two more weeks of this
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Brandon won
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>>738231492
I liked makato as the goody two shoes tattle tale. I agree with other anons the cast got too big and proper time for each character wasnt given to act in a group dynamic.
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>>738211359
never. and i hope so. because atlus will shovel their confidant mechanics into these
also because p2ep is NOT about school students, so its a hard pass, because NEETs won't be able to project themselves on adult people with jobs and real life interests and actual lives
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>>738231492
>Juvenile
>violent kid
>gaijin outcast
>homeless artist
>beautiful and popular student council president with perfect grades and innocent personality who doesnt even know what an Arcade is
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>>738235931
>star athlete
>model
>prodigious painter
>prodigious hacker
>richest woman on earth
>friendless loser with no father and a sister who is emotionally abusive

if you twist the characters enough you can be mad at any one of them btw
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>>738204635
I mean, it does feel like that by the time we hit Okumura’s Palace
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>>738223790
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It all went down hill after she gets introduced.
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>>738237514
It's weird how the game actively tries to make you hate every other character after she becomes a party member. She's also OP as fuck early game. She had no right getting Mediarahan.
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>>738236508
>>richest woman on earth
Not even the richest in Japan.
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>>738196041
but i'm not you gay retarded homofag boi lol
*BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP*
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>>738236508
You really didnt think that one through, did you?
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They should of had her like justice tard out and leave the party at one point. Idunno it would of been more intersting than the morgana bs
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>should of
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>>738186886
>smart character is introduced
>everyone else loses iq points so she can appear smart

why does every game and movie do this
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>>738238369
>They should of
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>>738238853
You have to actually be a smart writer to write smart characters
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>people shitting on Ryuji
You fucking niggers...
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Yotsuba being super giga magical genius hacker who can do can do anything was more egregious imo.
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>>738241159
But she's a neet loser who skipped a year of school and been royally fucked by the justice system. She's a victim of society as much as the rest.
Makoto is a normalfag compared to the rest of the misfits.
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I really like this fella
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>>738241361
Yeah I wish they did more with him instead after Madarame’s palace
Feels like he gets flanderized pretty badly
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*is the better disruptive girl in your path*
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>>738242007
They all get flandarized. Makoto ruined the group dynamic.
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>>738187316
im just started p5 recently
ryuji looks like a mash up of yosuke and kanji, but without the qualities of either
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>>738187316
Phantom thieves was his idea. The card was his idea. He totally had you back at dvery turn. He just becames a complete buffon once Makoto was introduced.
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>>738242007
Blame the P4 formula.
Most characters basically disappear after their arc.
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>>738204164
I would have let Ryuji fuck Ann just to piss off Morgana
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Makoto's Atomic Flare is perhaps the strongest spell in the game....
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>>738219894
the persona fanbase is much more self-contained than most other fanbases. they are basically annoying to themselves
its not like undertale or tf2, that shoehorn their games into random conversations to people that are oblivious to it
maybe it was different when p5 was released, i wasnt there
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>>738242586
Rise is the fun and thoughtful Stacey who mostly supports rather then directing, way better then Makoto.
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>>738186886
Yeah I mean I love Makoto, but truth be told, the game got shit after she joined
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Makoto has the personality of a rock and has zero chemistry with the rest of the party (which makes her perfect for the 40yo virgin persona fan that has never spoken to a woman irl, so of course a literal robot would be his favourite) but she has a nice ass so whatever, Joker totally plapped that.
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>>738186886
>almost got the entire party body bagged by Yakuza for being an autist
I could not take her seriously as the ''smartest one'' of the group after that, such a contrived way of getting her into your party
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>>738210371
No, he was still an annoying cunt that ruined Haru's arc with a poorly aped Junpei conflict that was completely nonsense
>WAAAAAH I feel like Im being forgotten and replaced because people understand the metaverse enough now and Futaba took over my job as navigator!
>Even though Im still a combatant
>And I can spy/deliver calling cards discreetly in my cat body which nobody else can do
>And I can transform into a fucking car and thus am the only means to traverse Mementos
>Waaaah waaaaah Im so sad even though I have unmatched utility and am the most critical party member outside of maybe Joker himself, woe is me that I am not doing literally fucking everything now!
>I better bitch out Ryuji for taking a dig at me even though 70% of my interactions with him so far has been me taking a fat shit on him!
Like shut the FUCK up you stupid cunt. And of course everyone gets plot retardation and doesnt take the two seconds to say "hey retard, you literally contribute more than anyone else on the team". Its all fucking melodrama. Even handwaving that he's insecure and thus somehow doesnt see any of this, the party could and should have solved this in 5 seconds. And instead Haru's arc is assraped for no reason and its coupled with the most annoying ass dogshit dungeon in the game. God, FUCK that entire arc
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>>738186886
Should have been able to fuck her sister. I will never forgive the tease that the anime did just to puss out in Royal
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>>738244450
do you think sae hates makoto because she gets assmogged all the time by her
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>>738247381
>ruined Haru's arc
Haru is ruined already simply by existing.
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>>738202323
>>738207715
>>738208309
HOLY THIS.
The og 4 man was perfect because the strategist wasn't just one role it was something they all had to work through. The party dynamic whenever they encountered something with Joker making the final call, it wasn't just "HEY MAKOTO WE'RE TOO RETARDED WHAT DO WE DO?!"
Also the only one who was super mean to Ryuji was morgana and that was just their dynamic. Now everyone shits on Ryuji and he's flanderized like a dumbass and I fucking hated it.
>>738240772
The post boat ryuji beatdown instantly made me despise all the women in the phantom thieves. The fact that some people defend it is stupid.
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>>738188915
I want to fall asleep in Haru's chest.
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>>738247664
>implying
She has one of the better SLs for party members that actually tie into her backstory, unlike someone like Makoto who is all about some dumb gyaru. Haru isnt even my p5 waifu, but shes leagues better than MarySuekoto and Redditaba. And certainly better than DumbCuntgana. Even if you hate her, the narrative itself is brought down by how poorly it was handled.
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>>738247458
He sister treated her really badly for no reason. It's not Makotos fault she chose to suck senior's dick to advance her career. Trying to justify it by saying she had to provide for Makoto is cope. She could have worked at McDonalds instead
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>>738192964
This never fails to arouse me.
Gib brainwashed buttslut gf
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>>738248267
To be fair, Sae was fucked up in the head enough by her dad's death and her shitty job that she had a palace. It wouldn't be a stretch for her to be angry at Makoto over small things when she's spiraled out of control already
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>>738188915
>guaranteed pure because she was going to be handed over to fagwagon as a virgin wife by her dad but that failed
Sugimura did pop her cherry while the Joker was being tortured.
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>>738248240
>She has one of the better SLs for party members
kek no
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>>738186886
The part where she's spying on your at school, and then the insane confrontation with the gangsters was good. Felt so shitty going from that to Futaba's mental health.
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>>738248405
Of the party SLs? Yes. Morgana is tied to plot progression. Makoto's sucks ass. Ann's also sucks ass. Ryuji is good, Yusuke is ok. Futaba belays the point a bit too much, so while not outright terrible, it drags. She literally has the best of the girl party members as far as backstory relevancy and overall progression.
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>>738186886
That imply that the party group was good to begin with.
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>>738248926
Haru isn't even a character, what are you talking about? To be fair to you, I didn't play Royal I only played the original, so maybe they made her a real character in Royal, but she wasn't one in the original.
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>>738210371
I played the Japanese dub and I still hated him. If she was doing a proper mesugaki voice then that would have been a big improvement
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imagine makoto doing a wet fart in her PT suit and all the stank accumulates in there over a long and sweaty mementos session in the summer haha
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>>738249142
She's not.
Kasumire got the most of new screentime.
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>>738209916
Wtf I don't remember posting this
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>there are posts about how Weekend (music artist) is playing Persona 5
>he tried to romance Tae Takemi
>but fucked up it
Lmao what
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>>738247381
It's the other way around.
Haru steps on Morgana's arc.
She should have never been a party member.
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>>738188215
>Kasumi 2nd
Based on fucking what? This is Yukiko erasure
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>>738244342
Ryuji is gay
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>>738248267
She was harsh, but under a stupid amount of stress between having to take care of bills, raise Makoto, and her job dealing with the scummy underbelly of society in general.
It happens, stress building over time brings out the worst of you. Its why your parents would sometimes be inordinarily harsh over some dumb little thing you did. It isnt that you havent gotten around to taking out the trash thats the issue, its that theyve only been sleeping for 4 hours per night the past week, work has sucked, theyre behind on making dinner because work sucked, they dont want to eat out again because you are a growing kid and they want you to get good nutrients and not get addicted to slop, the house is dirty, theyre trying to make sure bills are paid while also saving up for your education (assuming college) so you arent saddled with infinite debt, and then they see that you are just playing vidya and still havent taken the three minutes necessary to move the stinky garbage out to the bin outside. From their end they are busting their ass on a million things you will never see because its the parent's job to not burden their child with problems, and you cant take a few minutes to do something routine, and what are you going to do when youre out on your own and they arent there to mother you, wallow in your own filth? Blah blah blah. So they blow up at you over it because they are stressed and worried about your future and they feel like they are failing as a parent and beating themselves up over it.
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>>738194713
>porn addict pretends to care about characters
You are brown.
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>>738187069
Yep, never beat the game because of him, couldn't stand him, and I even played with the JP dub. Most hated character of all time.
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>>738234224
he deleted all his persona 5 videos he lost
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>>738196143
At first I XD, but then I ;_;

This autism is too powerful
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>>738222604
Agreed. He'll never outshine Kanji in my eyes.
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>>738249571
What are you talking about?
Yukiko is the least popular P4 girl.
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>p5 sucks
>smt5 sucks
>metaphor sucks
this sucks
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>>738249142
>Haru isn't even a character, what are you talking about?
...Her social link literally has her trying to become more than a puppet, looking into restructuring the business she is suddenly in charge of, being untrusting of the board of directors that are likely trying to exploit her inexperience for their own gain, and following her heart and passions and marrying her gardening hobby with making better product for the company. It has way more shit going on then most of the party SLs in general and is more compelling than "dude my new gyaru friend is a dumb bitch and falling for a pretty boy, what do?".

You are saying she doesnt have a character because her arc was hijacked by fucking Morgana, which is what I was bitching about in the first place. Which is no fault of her own.
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>>738226757
> Ann is a fun laid-back girl

She's a unlikable retarded slut trying to be girl bossy. She's Japanese Harley Quinn but dumber
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>>738249681
>3rd worlder projects his failings on to others
Post hand.
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>>738249142
They didn't lmao. If you want get to know Haru, play Strikers.
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>>738249438
His music sucks and he's somehow retarded enough to pick the non-romance dialogue option despite how it's either
>I LOVE YOU WAIFU-CHAN!!!
or
>Let's be friends.
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>>738250082
You are an AIjeet, why bother trying to deflect, it's not gonna work.
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>>738249840
And yet, the best one, once again proving that Japs have shit taste.
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>>738250221
Yukiko is the least popular girl in the west too.
Contrarianism is a mental illness.
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>>738250275
Everyone else is wrong.
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>>738250190
>no u
Im not even him, I just am tired of "durrr porn addict" shit. Though fuck AI now that we are on the topic, I didnt actually look at the pic. If thats what you meant than carry on, but it you are getting asspained over a sexy character image then I stand by what I said.
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OFFICIAL PHANTOM THIEVES TIER LIST
S TIER:
>joker
Charismatic teacher-fucker who doesn't speak much but naturally gets everyone's respect and subordination, the alpha dog.
>yusuke
The team's gigachad, strong morals, deep voice, not a simp, not a retard, walks his own path.

A TIER:
>ryuji
A true bro, dumb as shit but trustworthy as hell, would take a bullet for you.
He literally only ever gets mad when someone touches Joker, he doesn't even care when someone punches him, which is admirable.
>haru
Cute, soft, smart, perfect wife.
>sumire
Young and tight, very sweet, also perfect wife.

B TIER:
>futaba
Also young and tight (and very smart) but her otaku side is annoying.
>akechi
Untrustworthy as hell but also smart, powerful and competent like no other

C TIER:
>makoto
Smart, hard worker, competent, but also deeply autistic and always feels the need to play the leader role.

D TIER:
>ann
The definition of a bimbo, hot but stupid.
>morgana
Useful but incredibly insecure and annoying about it.
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>>738251045
Bump Ryuji to S tier and you got yourself a deal
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>>738251045
Ryuji and Futaba are shit for the same reason, they are both annoying as hell.
It's insane how hard Futaba falls off when comparing her story arc and everything that comes after.
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>>738250519
Nothing wrong with people calling out porn addicts, why are you getting defensive?
To be fair, every single Kawakamifag is a porn addict.
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>>738250003
Just say you didnt play the game retard
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>>738186886

Nothing against her, she is a good character. But yeah, the moment she joins is effectively the moment she becomes the group's leader and starts to consume like 50% of all dialogue in the group chatter from then on in.

>>738187069

Morgana is still worse thought for what the f'ing cat does near November derailing so much momentum from Haru's involvement. Ryuji absolutely deserved to put the damn cat in it's place after the year long shit he got from it.
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>>738249840
>least popular P4 girl
That's Yumi.
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>>738249984
People base their opinions of Persona characters off fanart and vibes. The games beat you over the head and gamers are still too retarded to get it.
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>>738249984
So, she's just a reprint of the worst parts of Mitsuru.
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>>738251045
Holy based. Are you my lost twin or something? We think so alike.
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>>738251342
>Ryuji
>annoying
You must be a female (with a penis). Yikes
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>>738251783
>fatherless loudmouth retard
>annoying
He's spiritually a nigger.
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>>738251572
>she is a good character
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>>738251045
This cast fails as there's no tomboy to cater to the regular audience that want real to life catering waifu that cuss and act like a wacky dumbass dude like the guys.
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>>738251748
It's called having objectively correct opinions anon
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>>738251442
Nah he's right. Stop being a retarded masterbating simp.
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>>738252168
Chie is a sub 80 IQ walking caricature sub nigger shit.
Naoto is a real tomboy.
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>>738251417
I see, so I was right on the money. Post hand.
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>>738252168
Chie is a moody bitch, stop letting fanart and the anime influence your opinion.
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>>738252168
makoto is a tomboy
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>>738186886
she was a needed evil in the group, only those 5 idiots wouldn't go as far

>>738187069
and I will never forgive this fucking cat for ruining Haru's story arc
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Kawacuckme's """"romance"""" is a pure reddit cringefest.
There is literally nothing. She never thinks about your romantically or even blushes around you. You just have to deal with her situation because dumb borderline-whore can't say "no I won't pay you" to the most retarded attempt at blackmailing.
And then on Rank 9 you say that you want to date her and the whole thing is embarrassing and awkward. She doesn't commit, keep saying that you're a minor, that this is all wrong, complicated etc. etc.
Jesus fucking Christ, every kawacuckmefag is a redditor with a comically bad taste and probably mommy issues too.
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>>738252675
TRVKE.
Kawakamifags are stunted autists drooling over a moonlighting borderline whore giving handjobs for money.
I'd understand if they simply gooned to her and ignored the actual character, but they keep trying defend her honor which is just laughable.
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>>738188215
>Kasumi and Makoto at the top
>Naoto in fucking top 5
Holy fucking shit Japs have no taste.
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>>738251045
Ryuji is A+ or S tier.
Haru is B tier
Ann is C+ or B
Makoto is D tier
Morgana is C tier.
Futaba is B-
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>>738252821
>moonlighting borderline whore giving handjobs for money
who is also your hot teacher
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>>738187069
That god damn trashbot is the reason I'll never play a second round of this game
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>>738206246
kys jidf
>>738206197
trvke
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god bless golden week
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>>738242586
I miss her
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>>738242586
Imagine comparing a Lovers Goddess to a Priestess hussy
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>>738255745
Fail and bad taste take.
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>>738241361
I got so pissed when he moved out, I thought he was gonna be a kino roommate for the whole game.
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>>738252675
yep I'm thinking BASED
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Tae > all
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>>738210371
>>738234079
>>738234138
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>>738258797
that outfit on joker is ugly as shit
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>>738186886
I love Makoto.
Makoto sexo and marriage.
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>>738186886
>2026
>still seething at Makoto and Mona
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>>738267495
2026 is just 2016 all over again. The tiktok kiddies weren't kidding about the meme reset
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>>738251045
>Sumire in A
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Is the P5 gacha game worth playing even if I don't intend to spend a penny?
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>>738249840
>>738250221
If even the Japs reject the yamato nadeshiko archetype, then she's a shitty character.
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>>738267705
It's not.
4chan is a retirement home and millennials being mentally stuck in 2016 has nothing to do with reality.
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>>738267875
No. I saved up my gems for Makoto and didn't get shit
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>>738267875
Chinese devs know how to give Fatlus a run for their money when it comes to waifubait, but that's about it
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>>738267742
You seem upset by the truth.
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>>738267875
Subway Slammer is funny but otherwise its not worth touching.
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>>738255745
>Ryuji is A+ or S tier
fair
>Haru is B tier
fair
>Ann is C+ or B
C at best, did you even do her confidant missions? she's got nothing going on upstairs and nothing to say
>Makoto is D tier
she ain't that bad, at least she never compromised the thieves like ryuji does every other week by speaking about thief stuff too loudly
>Morgana is C tier
fair
>Futaba is B-
fair
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>>738267742
Her only real flaws are that she's a little too perfect and too DLC-y and that she killed her sister
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>>738187069
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>>738187069
I hate 90% of these annoying mascot characters. Terrible trope.
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>>738269518
I wonder how bad it's gonna be when Persona 6 roles around.
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>>738269518
So true sis, P6 should be set in college too.
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>>738270134
rolls*
I'm retarded
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Makoto would dom the fuck out of this
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>Lust Provoking images
>flagrant shitposting
>on topic debates
I love persona threads, they never fail to entertain
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first of all I love her. secondly there are no bad characters in this game except the cat and ryuji.
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>>738271105
NOOOOO NOT THE ADVERTISERS!!!!
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>>738271105
Imagine the smell
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If I just want to romance the bimbo (ann) would I have a good time?
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>>738271901
Actually yeah, her and Kawakami have the most romantic dates. Only edge Kawakami has on her is a romance-exclusive room decoration.
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>>738266972
Slut, stand ready for my worm's arrival !
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>>738186886
Don't care, I've spilled endless seed to the thought of having a threesome with her and her sister
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>>738187069
I really don't mind Mona.
However Teddie from Persona 4... now that was a fucking nigger tranny I genuinely wanted to kill
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I still find it funny how people who never played the game seethe over people that like Joker/Futaba, but gush over how cute Joker/Kasumi(Sumire) is. Especially when they use the age argument, it's like they ignore the fact that Futaba and Kasumi(Sumire) are the same damn age.
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>>738272935
pedoscare is all about the VIBES
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>>738251045
I get that Makoto bad is popular because she is the most popular character of the game besides Joker himself
but jesus christ
>Haru above as if she ever did something noteworthy and her whole arc wasn't hijacked by Morgana throwing a bitch fit.
>Sumire above as if she isn't hyper forced in scenes with Joker only, isn't an actual member, has no relationship with the rest of the cast and basically just third wheels Joker and Akechi.
>>738255745
>Ann above when she reached her peak as a character an hour into the game and never recovered, turning into the bimbo slut butt of the joke and fading into the background as soon as the second to third palace.

i respect people liking Yusuke because he is actually funny tho, and he actually does aport shit to the group
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>>738273203
>>738269243
>>738262178
>>Ann above when she reached her peak as a character an hour into the game and never recovered, turning into the bimbo slut butt of the joke and fading into the background as soon as the second to third palace
Honestly I'm so attached to the og 4 phantom thieves that I play up Ann because their dynamic was so good when Ann was the only girl. As soon as Ann lost that it was over for her.
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>>738186886
Sae > Kawakami > Takemi > Ann > Haru > Hifumi > Futaba > Chihaya > Sumire > Makoto > Ohya
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>>738267875
The game is great and truly feels like P5 the expansion, but the gacha system is quite greedy, you will have to save a lot if you plan to roll in one of the banners.
My favorite part of the game have to be the characters, Motoha is lovely and Tomoko is absolutely beautiful.
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>>738209916
The Female Chud teacher is pretty.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqajGASLPK4
threadly reminder that the only sexually active relationships Joker can have are Takemi and Makoto
both are the most blatant about sex, in white day Makoto has the only date of the whole roster that ends in sex, if you romanced her to the very end, the goodbye scene has makoto basically saying how now they wont have to dodge Sae and Sojiro to fuck
takemi hands down fucks you in christmas.
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>>738275684
I'm pretty sure Joker fuck all the girls. Whatever you invite any of them to your room a message will appear saying they stayed more late than usual, this happends just after the girl you are dating gets all clingy with you.
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>>738186886
Naoto was much worse than her, she just joined so late that it was not as glaring.
>>738252657
>>she was a needed evil in the group, only those 5 idiots wouldn't go as far
Only because everyone's IQ got murdered after their arcs were over.
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>>738267905
Yukiko is a subversion on the Yamato Nandeshiko trope.
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>>738252168
Ann unironically has the most tomboyish attitude. She has a lot easier time "hanging with the guys" then Chie does.
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>>738275684
Kawakami's is known for being pretty explicit with it's implied sex though.
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>>738277538
She explicitly denies you.
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>>738277602
>You'll listen to my needs
uh...
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Liz pits and tits
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>>738277673
Is that from your favorite fanfic?
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>>738277825
?
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>>738250003
>She's Japanese Harley Quinn but dumber
Persona threads never cease to have the worst takes
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>>738277947
Non-canon.
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>>738276608
>Naoto was much worse than her, she just joined so late that it was not as glaring.
She was also their junior, so even though she was the smart super detective prodigy, social conventions still dictated that she defer to the upperclassmen.
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it always devolves into posting porn
fuck this gooner site
anyway yes makoto is shit and will always be shit along with every other main girl in p5
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>>738280480
>anyway yes makoto is shit and will always be shit along with every other main girl in p5
True, only P5R main girl counts.
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>>738281371
you are actually correct
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>>738249871
olde goodeth
newe baddeth
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>>738275684
All non canon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLDUpv3MyV4
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>>738187232
Makoto is hot as fuck though
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>>738187069
Persona 3 technically had two mascots (Aigis and Koromaru) and both of them were far more tolerable and good characters compared to Morgana and Teddie.
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>>738282775
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYyMLXq_SSo
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>>738186886
Should have been a party member
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>>738210371
Based retard. He's just as annoying in the japanese dub.
I'll give you that it's less annoying than Konohamaru (same VA), but still annoying.
Morgana is inherently annoying though, it's not just a voice thing. His personality is just shit.
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>>738276608
Naoto's retarded child detective status is so alien to the rest of the game, like Dojima being such a grounded character, that she basically just exists in her own little zone of story.
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>>738249476
honestly yeah fuck Haru, she's lame.
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>>738219894
>>ruins your entire series
Persona 5 is not Persona 3, thougheverbeit
The fanbase that P3 spawned (despite P3 itself being an okay game mixing new mechanics and a new direction for the series with some of the grim aspects of P1 and P2) was the point where everything starting to go downhill.
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>>738283028
She's basically a kid the police consult sometimes because she's a genius.
Also she has a real gun for some reason.
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>>738282965
>this nigga hates Sango
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>738222604
>The main cast is carried so hard by
>Ann
>Morgana
Not based, you're just retarded.
It actually hurts to read such a retarded post.
It should be illegal and prohibited for a retard such as yourself to post here.
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>>738283076
Persona 3 with the social sim stuff was pretty cool for a new gimmick.
P4 and P5 did NOT need to use the calendar system as well and should have had their own gimmicks and minigames more fitting for their themes.
P3 tackled death, so daily life and constantly showing the player time moving (and thus running out with the end coming closer) was perfect.
P4 should have had mystery segments.
P5 should have had more stealth or something.
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>>738283094
I know what the game says she is, but that is in fact a completely retarded conceit that doesn't fit with the better parts of the game. However it it is extremely hot that you make a her abandon all her self-image to dress in a girl's uniform for you so I forgive it.
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>>738237653
Not even richest Persona girl. Kirojo group is far bigger then Japanese McDonald's.
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>>738283202
>but that is in fact a completely retarded conceit that doesn't fit with the better parts of the game.
P3, a couple years prior to P4's timeline, has a robot and scientists who made an entire artificial island and were developing time travel.
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>>738283171
Aquajeet is an unironic pajeet, he can't resist blonde hair and blue eyes, please understand.
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>>738189968
>>738190381
>the problem with Persona writing is that they don’t incorporate a character’s rank into any main story interactions.
You can say that again.
The first Nusona game that I played was P4, I didn't have a lot of context or info on how the games were going to be, but I was hoping that the Social Links would actually influence the interactions between the IT throughout the story to some extent, even if it's just mild dialogue changes, stuff that you'd notice and go "Oh, that reminds me of X thing from their SL".
But no, that's just not a thing here. The same goes for Kodaka's Danganronpa games.
It's honestly sad. It's not like they couldn't have done it either.
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>>738283202
>>738283279
>P3, a couple years prior to P4's timeline, has a robot and scientists who made an entire artificial island and were developing time travel.
And as of the PSP releases of P2, anti-shadow weapons and artificial persona users such as the Strega folks were incorporated years before even P3 in-universe.
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>>738283695
Intredasnign
Hopefully we can get a P2 remaster some day soon.
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>B-but her personality
BLAH BLAH BLAH
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Mitsuru and Makoto plaphog
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>>738258634
Least schizo and unhinged P5 hater.
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>>738252675
>>738252821
>>738263065
>samefagging because nobody gives a shit about your shit opinion
Lmfao
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>>738249672
It's mentioned that she basically crammed even harder than Japs normally do to pass the Bar equivalent as early as possible. Stress is right.
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>>738251045
Besides being le funny art autist one thing I really appreciate about Yusuke, specifically his slink, is that he struggles to get over Madarame in a way none of the others do with their respective arcs. Hell in the Third semester his perfect world is just one where all of that never happened and he could just go on being his student.
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>>738283480
P4 does actually have dialogue that references the social link progression and your romances - it's used when you find party members and the heal fox in random dungeon rooms. Why it's literally only there and nowhere else in the game is beyond me.
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>>738251728
No. Not at all. Their social links aren't really even similar at all besides the asshole fiance and the fact that they're rich.
>>738251634
really had you pegged to a tee. Wow.
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Kawamommy is best
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You think Makoto's feet stink after walking around without any socks all day?
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>>738249984
>>738251634
>>738288024
tbf most players don't even get halfway through Haru's SL since she's locked behind max proficiency at the very end of the game. So most people just insert whatever meme personality from fan art and the few Mementos lines she has
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>>738288024
Haru's confidant is a carbon copy of Mitsuru's SL except her outlet is a poop coffee startup instead biking.
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>>738291098
This is disgusting
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>>738290649
It's kinda of like how everyone's ideas about P4 characters was warped by the anime and Hiimdaisy comics.
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>>738291098
Well for one thing, Mitsuru is an outlet she's had for a very long time that's mentioned like twice. While Haru is experimenting with making coffee for the very first time as an actual business venture and it's the central throughline of the social link. It's more similar to taking Mitsuru to various eateries than her biking.

But no. They're not really "carbon copies" at all outside of very surface level similarities.
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>>738192964
GIWTWM
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>>738186886
>>738187069
How did they manage to make two characters so incredibly insufferable?
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>>738292662
They broadening the appeal towards people who had never played a Persona game before. Pray to God that they learned their lesson and stop appealing to fags that don't play video games.
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>>738283695
>in-universe.
Technically a different universe than P3 though, until the ending at least.
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this thread makes me wanna replay P4 again.

when I played it the first time, I played the last ~15 hours of the game in one sitting. I couldn't put it down.
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>>738272478
Teddie at least didn't stick 24/7 to the MC. Fuck Mona
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>>738293907
Why?
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I enjoy viewing pornographic images of all of the female characters in 5th (Royale) entry in the Persona series by Atlus video game studio
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>>738186886
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>>738272478
kuma-kun is the GOAT and you are retarded
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>>738186886
Makoto wasn't the problem with the game. It's the dialogue bloat in general like others point out. Persona has always had a lot of dialogue (well at least since 3), but the amount of talking is just ridiculous in 5. Especially all of the fucking texting. You eventually just get to the point where you skip it so you can actually play the game.

3 and 4 had a much better balance in it's social Sim gameplay, dungeon crawling, and cutscenes.
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>>738186886
>neighbour lets his dogs out everytime you have a "wrong thought" and uses them as a constant pressure tactic that makes your life worthless to live
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>>738293907
I replayed 3 and 4 last year on the switch and I could barely put them down once I got started. It was basically like a digital high school reunion for me since I like my persona friends a hell of a lot better than any of the people I actually went to high school with.
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>>738299735
I would actually like a realistic high school RPG where I'm not interacting with chibi anime characters.
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>>738300064
realism is slop
also p3 is fully free from chibi these days
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>>738187069
>Not a girl
Gay
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Dang Persona 5 was really the culmination of the series attempt to get romanceable hags.
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Look, check off another one from the list.
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>>738193972

She is jokers Canon wife
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Sex with Japanese highschool girls!!
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>>738302903

Every anime and game out of jp pretty much
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>>738187069
Fpbp
This cocksucker is 60 percent of the dialogue in the entire game. Mascot characters get the rope
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>>738283734
just emulate it
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>>738287191
I like his boldness, he doesn't follow the insecure teenager archetype that everyone else follows and instead walks his own path.

When Maruki first started giving counseling sessions at Shujin and all the others were like
>eehh, do we have to?
>what a pain
>I'm not sure it's a good idea...
this nigga was like
>sounds fascinating, I think I shall observe it for myself!
and then actually came to a school he didn't even attend just to interrupt Maruki during his session with another student to ask him if he could observe him.
Dude doesn't give a single fuck about societal norms or whatever, he only goes by what he thinks is right. Which is especially rare for the Japanese.
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>>738187542
>there is not a single tolerable character in ANY persona game
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>>738299665
The cellphone text didn't add anything. It was safe to just skip it all.
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>>738305891
She so pale
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>>738186886
every nusona game shits up its dynamic by bloating the cast
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>>738202114
it's just lazy writing. juggling a big cast is hard and if yiu can't think of a meaningful role for everyone they just become background characters that do their shtick and sometimes react to things. becoming simplified caricatures of themselves
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>>738305891
Wife
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Look at me
I am the phantom thieves now
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>>738302712
>>738302750
Joker finally achieved the dream
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>>738307201
>pic
Too old
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>>738308154
Nope
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>>738225679
Doesn't need to be addressed. This team has actual shit going on. The worst of them is Ryuji, but he grew up with Ann. Ann is an actual model, Yusuke is an artist with paintings in museums, Makoto is a lawyer in training, Futaba is anonymous, Haru is the Burger Queen, and Akechi is a cop, and Sumire is an Olympian.Without Joker their problems may have gotten them killed, but the reason they had those problems is because they were already something before they were phantom thieves. They don't need the phantom thieves name to define them, only Ryuji does, because it's all he has going for him. It's a job for them. Don't need to be best friends with your coworkers
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>>738252168
>Chiefag chimping out
like clockwork
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>>738187232
>>738187069
Morgana is a girl's name
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>>738311728
Trans girl's
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Joker married that OL he saved from bald ldp leader.
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>>738194547
In the first couple arcs, everyone contributes to their plans
When they get Makoto, she does everything while the others just go "wow Makoto you're so smart"
Incidentally she also has negative chemistry with anyone but Joker
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>>738267875
Anniversary is coming up so there's a lot of login rewards right now so if anyone wants to dip their toes now's the time. I'd say everything that you might've found enjoyable in the mainline games is only half as good and everything you disliked is twice as bad.
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>>738312424
It's funny how in the second palace everyone was working together to plan an actual theif heist. Then Makoto shows up, declares herself the brains, and they just walk through the front door.
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>>738188915
You forgot rich
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>>738312706
Joka collected trillions yen during nu tartarus



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