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Now that the dust has settled. Why did they make spamming villagers into Soldier/Armor knight line so OP in this game?
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You are sending trained soldiers to the front lines and wondering why they are winning
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why did they make it so that witches can randomly teleport behind you and kill someone without anything you can do about it?
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>>738198138
'cause no counterplay = good game
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>villager
My units who already started as soldier did perfectly fine. The real crazy shit is getting the dracoshield and putting it on Silque or Faye (Cleric).
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>>738199312
look at her go!
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>>738200276
.
D
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versus
:(
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i want an open world rpg fire emblem game where you can play as the mc in a real world and recruit npcs in cities and villages for form a mercenary guild or something to work for hire for the locals and get fame points to climb into a position where you start working for an empire and the real epic drama starts to unfold
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>>738198138
>and kill someone
If the witch can't one-shot someone, then it's not a real problem, just don't let the weaker ones face other combat on enemy phase.
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>>738200698
I've had two witches both teleport and attack the same person for a kill.
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>>738200535
>I want Fire Emblem to go open world slop
kys
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>>738201352
you didn't think every open world was slop 30 years ago
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>>738200276
Faye, Alm’s one and only beloved
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>>738201510
NTA but I've always hated open world slop. It's a sorry excuse to "optimize" dev time by giving them a bunch of separate areas to work on without needing to collaborate, which is why they always feel like unbalanced, disjointed messes.
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>>738201723
She stole his first time without permission
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>>738201741
it works well in dragon quest, chrono, zelda
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>>738202089
I thought the open world Zelda was lame and repetitive.
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>>738200276
I never played Echoes but I will just for this angel
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>>738202173
if you find zelda games lame and repetitive then i guess you just don't like its genre and that is okay
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>>738202089
Dragon Quest isnt open world.
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>>738202408
Pre-BoTW Zelda isn't open world, but in truth I've never been a fan of the series in the first place.
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>>738202501
they seem pretty open world
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>>738202501
That anon has a retarded idea of what open world is
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You know what Fire Emblem needs? 3 hours running around an empty open world before you get to the next map (that's probably Awakening/Echoes tier quality since all the dev-time went into the open world). Perfect evolution of the Switch era hubs that everyone just loves.
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>>738202179
Protip: She's OP if you promote her into a clerk. She makes an amazing heal slut

It's of the few modern remakes where everyone agrees its better than the original, very much worth checking out. It's a little different compared to the rest of the series. Has a great ost and voice acting. Story's not the greatest, with it being adapted from a famicom game there wasn't much story to begin with. I actually laughed at it's plot twist on my first playthrough but if you go digging around you'll find the lore is built alright.
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>>738203375
That would be kino, unfortunately modern Nintendo would never do something like Kenshi. They'd need to put something for you to do every 20 seconds
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>>738203510
>It's of the few modern remakes where everyone agrees its better than the original
The original is dogshit and Echoes barely improves the gameplay.
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>>738203510
Yeah but this is a case where the original is a 2/10 and the remake is a 4/10.
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>only reason its rated low is because you cant javelin toss every archer in the enemy phase forcing you to pp
You can't refute this
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>>738203863
Yeah bro look at this TACTICOOL player phase >>738200276
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>>738203375
>hubs that everyone just loves
I played fates twice and still have no idea what cabbage does. Its all just way to pointless and poorly written into the story. If they really needed to pull this shit it should be the location of where your army is stationed at the point of the story. I mean I'd rather have couple of smaller hubs that I get sent to depending on the chapter im on with a shop or forge than than one huge with nothing to do or god forbid an openworld
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>>738203917
>all archers at full hp
Yeah, what I said still holds true. You'd do the same in most other fe games with uber juggernauts
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>>738204034
>Sure it's impossible to die, but you have to like... click the attack button sometimes...
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>>738204034
when people complain about javelins they don't literally mean javelins, they mean dreadlooped archer kliff
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>>738204114
t. uses juggernauts on the regular
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>>738197805
I love this game's artstyle.

I love it more than the rest of the series.

Everytime I see it I'm reminded of how much better it looks than literally every other Fire Emblem title.

It pains me that this didn't become the series default artstyle.
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>>738204114
And that is worse than moving a unit and not having to click the attack button for most players, yes
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>>738197805
kill yourself
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>>738204219
>It pains me that this didn't become the series default artstyle.
Japan didn't like it so cry about it shitdari shill!
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Why do you idiots engage with a fallacy argument in the first place? It's always so retarded seeing a convo derail from something that wasn't even a good argument in the first place.
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>>738204219
Hidari is a good artist
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>>738204294
They didn't like Alm*
death to all fujotards
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>>738204223
I dunno sometimes I feel like you niggers just argue to argue because this game is like the furthest thing from strategic in the entire series. It's a total grindfest with entire enemy types that infinitely summon enemies to suicide onto you.
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>>738204202
>juggernauts are bad
lol
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>>738204395
If summoned mobs are suiciding into you then they don't exist in the player phase so you can just keep moving towards everything else
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I'm going to play sov and force myself to finish it this time. Any tips to make the experience less painful?
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>>738203606
The improved growths, soundtrack, voice acting, and actual characters with personality make it way better than what was possible on famicom. Granted anybody who puts the game down during act 3 or 4 I understand because witch and cantors can kiss my ass and fuck the desert maps and fuck nuibaba's map. Early game is real fun tho

>>738203751
Agree with Gaiden but honestly I'll give echos a 7/10
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>>738204602
Do what OP said
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>>738204602
suffer
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>>738204957
Why do Gaiden maps always have so much wasted space? That upper right quadrant is completely irrelevant.
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>>738205063
so the maps makes sense visually in gaiden
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>>738204957
all the times you have to wade through poison swamps to get to the enemy in a formation is honestly pretty incredible, really want to know the decision process of keeping the maps exactly the same
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i love the valentia girls
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>>738204602
Make Faye into a clerk, she learns a very good heal spell stupidly early
Don't use Atlas
Don't use Conrad
Clive is only really good for the early game
Dont miss Nomah, he isn't the greatest but another healer is never bad esp cus you'll have to deal with >>738204957 right after you get him.
Remember sages like Nomah heal all units next to em, only like 5hp but helps negate the terrain damage.
Terrain bonuses are more important than any other entry
Download the DLC because it has the best grind method plus extra units and prequel maps that unlock extra supports when beaten
Supports are actually pretty decent in this game so get em.
Remember you have mila's turnwheel to deal with BS rng and witch spam.
Use as much as you want food in the early game, you really wont need it later except a little for stamina for the final dungeon but assuming you've been collecting shit you'll have enough from not needing any in act 3 and 4 up to that point
I've never tried OP strat but I find it questionable seeing how much you have with witches but then again the ol' human wall strat can work well in this game so ya
Lastly just try to invest yourself into the world, its lore and characters. Try not skip the cutscenes unless you cannot bare the story which isn't the greatest but if you can invest yourself in it world then it'll help getcha though any game.
And if you really really want to make the game less painful you could always be a coward and play casual mode.
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>>738203917
You're acting the like game just hands you the dracoshield for free and isn't a massive fucking chore to get. The other anon is absolutely right, if that were Robin+Chrom in Awakening, there wouldn't be a single enemy alive there because they all would've attacked at 1 or 2 range and died to Nos on the counter.
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>>738205228
no not really
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>>738206118
>Don't use Conrad
Conrad has to be one of the most pointless additions I've ever seen to a remake. Not only is his existence completely irrelevant to the plot, like NOTHING would change if he was removed, but he's not even a good unit either. At least Berkut and Fernand added to the story.
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>>738206152
Awakening is also shit. I can't believe you're trying to deny this game is a boring grindfest when this
>>738206118
>Download the DLC because it has the best grind method
is common advice.
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>>738206168
beats having black void tiles in a corner
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>>738197805
They're the worst line though. The OP strat is to make them all mercs so you can pass around the Lightning Sword and nuke everything. If you reclass Valbar into a merc and transfer the lightning sword he solos Celica's side.
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>>738206293
>he needs to DLC grind to beat this game
LMAOOOOOOOOO
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>>738206351
You can't reclass Valbar, what the fuck are you talking about?
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>>738198138
Bro, just leave your 0 res characters in the middle of your battalion and not the outskirts, you imbecile
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>>738206351
Mercs aren't bulk enough that you can just blindly move forward
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>>738206118
>Make Faye into a clerk
I can do my own paperwork.
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>>738206420
You can if you use the DLC.
>he doesn't know about mage Valbar
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>>738206753
I've known anons who used DLC and they were all cowards
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>>738206753
dont complain about grinding when you are using dlc to grind
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>>738206753
>DLC
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>>738206118
thanks
I've played gaiden before so I know some stuff already, but I'm lost on what weapons I should forge and skills I should learn.
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>>738204602
Train Delthea (broken unit), abuse archers, spam Expel on Silque/Genny. It's not a hard game, just boring, put on a podcast or something
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>>738206884
You don't need to min max any of that, this is probably in the top 3 or 5 easiest game in the series
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>>738206393
NTA but if the game is grindy what's the big deal with using pirated DLC to turn an hour grind into 20 minutes? Do you not value your time?
>>738206420
You can with DLC, you get a pitchfork that lets you turn anyone into a villager
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>>738207061
Why would you ever need to grind for anything outside of post game content
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>>738207061
>Do you not value your time?
I'm a neet from a wealthy family so you do the math
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Maribelle's Wind broke.
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>>738206884
oh well if you can deal with Gaiden, Echos should be no issue!
>>738206801
>>738206393
I value my time and will shamelessly use DLC to ease a grind. Granted I wouldn't buy DLC just for that but If I buy the ultimate edition of a game or the season pass and it includes and easy grind then fuck ya im using it
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>>738207213
lol fair
>>738207140
Est, Atlas and post game as you said. I never beat the post game without grinding.
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>>738207324
>i will play more content that i consider to be a grind to play the exact same content others play because i hate grinding
Ok
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>77 hit with a B support active against an enemy losing 4 avoid from his weapon
Yep, that's FE6 alright. Marcus even has pretty decent skill, so it's not even a literal skill issue.
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>>738207531
Just use an iron axe
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>>738207531
3 out of 4 ain't bad
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>>738207670
It's 2RN. That's 9 out of 10
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>>738200535
You can have all of that without making it open world.
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>>738206545
They are if you give them shields and they double everything with the lightning sword. Every enemy in Alm's route has piss poor res so the lightning sword sweeps until you begin to fight Dread Fighters late game.
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>>738207873
Then I don't care and would play PoR instead
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>>738206884
what >>738207002 said you can easily go without forging and beat the game. I would just boost whatever good weapons your using around 3rd or 4th act. I recall the Duma Lance being a good one to buff. Lady Blade can be upgrading into a good weapon for Celica too iirc. I haven't played Echo in a couple of years but I've beaten in the game at least like 7 times
>>738207489
every dungeon in this game uses the same layout for battles. The same square room over and over just with a pillar thrown into a different spot. If not for more XP at least to look at something different.
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Congratulations to Wendy for winning her first ever duel against a common soldier. It only took her three hits, an assist javelin from Barth, a vulnerary and a wing and a prayer for the hit rates, but she did it. It worked out perfectly that these three showed up at such a time that I could pull the soldier but not the archers, so I figured I'd have some fun.

>>738207634
That was as far as Marcus could go that turn, but I ended up using a javelin for 82 hit instead. If he missed, Zealot would've cleaned up with a better 1-range option, but I really wanted to leave Zealot with 2-range equipped, so I'm glad he didn't miss.
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Love this game to death. Simple as.
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>>738207531
>complaining about a ~90% chance to hit
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>>738208168
>without forging
I barely forged at all on my first blind run, and I didn't realize about upgrading weapon types either, so I never got a killer bow.
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>>738208223
>90% chance to hit
More like 90% chance to miss one of the attacks
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>>738208191
outta curiosity why don't you translate the game?
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Wish me luck bros. Wish Nintendo would not be so retarded and make more figures since the characters are all gud.
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>>738208325
terminal weebery
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>>738206806
The pitchfork was given away for free simply for connecting online thoughbeit. The pitty stats from leveling makes it so that you never need to grind even to beat the superboss
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>>738208325
this is clearly a real cartridge. i know because i got one
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>>738208281
actually same. I recall early on discovering I can turn upgrade weapons into new ones so I upgraded the shadow sword into a brave sword and saw I can upgrade it again but then that just turned it back into a shadow sword. Seeing 2 gold just go poof like that made me write it off
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>>738198138
I think the Witch AI will never go for a kill. At least I've never seen them do so.
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>>738208531
Oh well that explain it lol. Once again curiosity gots me another question: How can you tell its on og hardware and not emulated?
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relay when
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>>738208741
Anon... he isn't uploading screenshots from a GBA...
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>>738206118
>Don't use Atlas

Atlas can actually be a really good Archer. He very much becomes a gamble character fi you do as you see pretty quickly things like DMG 100, Hit 65, crit 80.
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>>738208741
i was joking, but it is emulated unless the capture card is fucked because the robe on that mage shouldn't be that dark of a red
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>>738208719
I have, it could be a hard mode only thing but I dont think so.
>>738208796
>>738208882
I assumed he was using something like the epilogue GB. I got one of those, lets you play OG carts on emulators. Guess it isn't full og hardware but It certainly would prevent translation hacks
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>>738204602
Make everyone you can a merc. Trade around the Lightning Sword. For end game train them up a bunch of iron swords until you can use wind sweep
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>>738209101
>just spam one class
nah sounds boring
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>>738209085
99% sure I played on Hard (unless it wasn't available at the start). I even tested it and would deliberately leave units with low HP isolated and they would never go for them.
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>>738208750
We hate gameplay here
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>>738209147
Just like gayden itself!
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>>738204602
anon can you rush to the end to check if witches can focus kill you thanks bye ill check back in 15 minutes
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>>738208325
I don't need to because I can read it anyway. I play all possible games in JP as a form of reading practice. It is also emulated, for the record, though there was a time once when I almost bought a legit FE6 cart.
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>>738202179
She has a cute design but has awful characterization, zero depth and a complete simp for the mc. A by product of being remake original I suppose
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>>738204602
Level Gray to 20 and loop him because he got the best growths and his bases are terrible so he needs to loop to be fixed and become the best mid game war machine
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>>738209503
That's a retarded idea.
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>>738209147
Play it like an ltc. It's fun to min max in this game.
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>>738209595
The best of ideas
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>>738209745
You play gayden so you are retarded by default.
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>>738209795
I'm the best player in here too
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>>738208750
good luck have fun
we just need to know where to find the save once you get banned. I think 8moe would work?
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SEX WITH FAYE
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>>738209985
>banned
lol
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>>738209503
Cliff had way better growths (and res) in Gaiden, are you sure you aren't confusing the two? And it's better to promote asap.
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>>738209640
I'm not a troon like you
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I like this sweet spot of FE threads where anons are awake and active but before the brown coomers wake up and start shitting the thread up.
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>>738210132
it's best when gameplay discussion is active AND some people are posting cute FE girls
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The more I think about it, Faye is the perfect woman...
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>>738210304
why do they all have dead eyes
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>>738208403
Why not start by using the Warriors Celica model as a base?
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its a peaceful thread because fire emblem isnt in the subject or op
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>>738208403
Did you gen this? If so, where? Need me niche FE character figurines without learning blender and dropping dough on a pricey artist.
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>>738210110
Then why are you being so neurotic?
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>>738197805
I only like FE games where the characters breed and the children are playable
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>>738197805
>archers get absurd range
>still bad units
bros
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>>738210686
Sis you are the one speedrunning SoV
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>>738197805
I like this game because it is less of a fire emblem game and more of a fantasy medieval strategy game too bad japs hate that
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>>738210740
>forged killer bow spam
>bad
(lol
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>>738210367
Just Doot. She's being mind controlled by an actual fat ugly bastard from a doujin.
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>>738210402
I was not able to find it before I kvetched money for some Meshy renders.
I found the XNALara version and the original render but I have 0 knowledge of how to render and was not even able to do a good pose with XNALara which is supposed to be easy to use.
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>>738210854
Exactly. Archer Atlas with Hunter Volley has enough strength gains to delete almost everything. Helped me a ton to not deal with the Grima map much if you spam Hunter's Volley.
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>>738197805
>voice acting
>eh
>ah
>uhm
>ah
>ugh
>eh
>agh
>oh
>hm
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>>738210304
Much as I like to give the waifufags shit, I do like seeing art of Fire Emblem characters. I just hate AGP roleplay.
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>>738210794
Ltc is not speed running. It's just optimizing turns. It can actually takes longer than regular playthroughs
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ah yes hand axe Titania in enemy range, my favorite game
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>>738212340
damn 11 years old look like this
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>>738209640
I have done some low turn count gimmick runs, but only for games I've already played a dozen times.
I don't understand how it would work in SoV with all the dungeons and random map spawns.
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>>738212476
>I don't understand how it would work in SoV with all the dungeons and random map spawns.
The community apparently said fuck it, just grind if you want to.
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>>738197805
Echoes is in my backlog to replay. I played it and pretty much grinded it back when it released but at this point I remember so little of it.
Even got myself the limited edition
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>>738212879
I lost my SoV soundtrack disc when someone crashed into my car....
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>>738212990
Least believable part of this story is you owning a car
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>>738210353
Except she is literally crazy.
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>>738213142
Yeah? That's why she's perfect?
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>>738212448
Yes
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>>738212340
It's called dignity you fucking chud
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>>738213071
Well. I did. For only a month before a drunk dumbass destroyed it and I only had liability insurance because it was used and cheap enough. Bastard died and couldn't even sue the faggot for my money back.
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>>738212476
You can kite all the random encounters in the game. You just need to learn their ai
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>>738213382
Letting axe mommy carry my chud ass is peak FE dignity fren.
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>>738197805
Villagers in Echoes/Awakening/Fates are just fucking op in general
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>>738213327
>>738212448
she's 15...
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>>738213509
>Mozu
>OP
lol
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>>738213634
Just get her to 20/20 as merchant
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>>738213634
Yes.
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>>738213774
mozu is very good, not overpowered
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>>738213835
>mozu is very good
Not even
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how did mangs beat bbd?
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>>738211604
>>eh
>>ah
>>uhm
>>ah
>>ugh
>>eh
>>agh
>>oh
>>hm
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>>738212340
>Titania
>my favorite game
Yes.

>>738213513
Same age as Lyn, yeah.
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>>738213890
With a big black dildo
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>Donnel
>oh pee
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>>738214021
Yes
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>>738212340
Time to graduate to adulthood and try Maniac mode, anon.
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>>738214273
>3x more enemies
Yay!
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>>738197805
Delthea sex
Delthea rape
Delthea impregnation
Delthea childbirth
Delthea sex
Delthea rape
Delthea impregnation
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>>738214021
Nino redpilled me on the perfidy of greens
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>>738214351
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>>738197805
I've never played any of the ds/3ds FE games. Is this a good place to start?
Is this one of the ones where you can swap character's classes around?
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>>738214549
you cant swap classes. but it is one that you want to promote as early as you can
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>>738214549
Start with Path of Radiance. You can play it right now on Switch 2 with NSO
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>great art
>really cool remixes
>fantastic dub
>even story has it's moments
but
>those maps
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>>738214549
>Is this one of the ones where you can swap character's classes around?
It's the only one where you can't actually. The best 3DS game is FE Fates Conquest.
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>>738214615
>Nintendo Jewscription
lol
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>>738214621
Gaiden/echoes maps are overhated, they're not nearly as bad as the memes would have you think
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>>738214689
All I remember is the big swamp in the middle and fights around it.
Or just big empty spaces.
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>>738214736
Yeah you only remember the meme maps
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>>738214689
Maybe the first time you play a map.
But the eighth?
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>>738202179
Good taste. Faye is best girl
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>>738214689
You're right, they're worse
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>>738214792
>"No, don't remember the maps that you play for 90% of fights! Remember the four unique maps that you only play once!"
Oh boy, can't wait to walk down this long hallway with Python because he's the only one that can hit these enemies in the walls back! Or to walk in a linear path towards Desaix around the edge of this castle!
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He is literally me when playing ironmans
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>>738214936
Right on cue, someone posts the meme empty green square
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>>738212476
there's an in game LTC achievement for beating the game in under 500 turns. All of the extra and optional fights count toward the limit, but if you try hard you can finish in around 300 so the limit is fairly generous.
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>>738215001
Anon is being dishonest. He should have posted this one
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>>738215040
Right, now post the swamp and we can keep this circlejerk going
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>>738215001
This more your speed, buddy?
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>>738215040
Still better than most FE6 maps where it forces you to move in circles around the whole map
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>>738215040
Don’t forget the 5-6 1 tile choke boat battles that are for all intents and purposes the same map
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>>738214689
People think their bad because the early game on almost route are mostly open fields with cav spam, but the ai is highly predictable so you can easily pull them apart by paying attention to unit order and and using your lower defense units to manipulate enemy positioning. Celica's maps are honestly all mostly decent.
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>>738215104
The fact is I could do this all day because the majority of maps are like this
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>>738215223
Oh shit, a building the enemies immediately move out of to meet you in the field? What diversity!
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>>738215121
Funny thing is, as mediocre as these empty maps are they're at least short and not filled with reinforcements, which still makes them better than a lot of other maps in the series
Overall echoes map design is no worse than a game like PoR which is mostly braindead but still filled with maps that waste your time endlessly for no reason, espeically on the highest difficulty
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>>738215272
>didn't play the game
kek not surprising, most anti-echoes shitposters act like bots
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>>738215284
>It's shit but that's good because it's over fast so you can get to the next shit map quickly
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>>738215327
>terrain restricts your movement
>enemies have infinite range so you need to think about your formation with the limited space you have
unironically less braindead than most maps in easy FE games
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>>738215337
>>738204957
I quit on that map. Is that before or after this rather forgettable chapter?
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>>738215404
Warping literally makes "formation" not a thing. It doesn't matter who you have where because they can just warp wherever the fuck they want.
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>>738215404
It's literally a rehash of >>738215121
Gaiden recycled maps decades before 3H ever did
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>>738215458
wrong, they tend to prioritize isolated targets and will generally avoid teleporting in the middle of your formation. more often than not they hit your backline and front line but will not go deeper
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>>738215284
>they're at least short and not filled with reinforcements
Which is the reason why they're spammed. So they made an unfun map, and then multiplied it by like 20x.
Just because something is short and shit doesn't make it not shit. And making me endure it 20+ times means it's not really short anymore. It's just shit.
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>>738215404
If you want to see a Warp gimmick done well then just play Conquest and do the Witch DLC map. It's stupid here.
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>>738215549
>wrong, they tend to prioritize isolated targets
Show me the actually AI logic I'm somehow meant to divine to know this. Or you're just bullshitting.
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>>738215378
This one is pretty fucked up since if a random enemy walks into you on this tile they have enough room to run in and kill units turn 1. And if an enemy spawns on the boss's tile trying to fight both the random enemy and the boss at the same time makes the random enemy agro an extra 3 archers and a mage or some shit on mathilda so she dies in 1-2 turns
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>>738214351
>one time it's on left side
>other time it's on the right
THAT TEETH HAS A MIND ON IT'S OWN
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>>738197805
idk what it is, I like tactical games, but fire emblem just really doesnt click for me for some reason.

Something about it gameplay wise just feels super detached. Wish I could put my finger on in. I like shit like total war, socom, or mordheim. I know its not jap aeshtetic, cause I can apreciate stuff like final fantasy or bravely default. IDK man, I wish I could understand myself.
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Also what happened to
>shadows
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>>738215606
You'll figure it out through trial and error, I've never seen a witch teleport straight in the middle of my army, they always teleport on the outside then move in
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>>738215660
I think it's too rng heavy for you and turn based?
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>>738215378
This one has a high chance of a random enemy spawning on top of it turning it into a nightmare.
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>>738215579
The random encounter maps are super short and not spammed that much unless you run all over the map a million times over
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>>738215779
I wasn't even talking about random encounters. I'm talking about the bare minimum of maps to complete the game.
I remember playing Echoes and it had the same dual-boat map like three fights in a row.
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>>738215660
It uses simple calculations for determining combat outcomes, so much so that you can know what will likely or exactly happen on a turn for every combat that happens. And it resolves combat automatically, especially on enemy phase, where you can do more damage to the enemy than they do to you, even though it's their turn. This is probably what you don't like about it but it's actually why I prefer it to other tactics games.
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>>738215730
>You'll figure it out through trial and error, I've never seen a witch teleport straight in the middle of my army, they always teleport on the outside then move in
So this is entirely based on vibes and witches can attack whoever they want at all times. Got it.
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>>738215894
nta but not vibes, probability. there are more available tiles around and in range of you army than tiles in the middle of your army
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>>738204294
>Japan didn't like it
Why not, the game looks great. I'm out of the loop, when was this discussed, give me a source. What was their reasons. I want to know more. I DEMAND ANSWERS!
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>>738215872
There's multiple boat maps but they're not the same
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>>738215914
You just have to position yourself in a way to minimize the number of attacks each unit can potentially take and also be ready to kill Sonia if she decides to attack. It's not too bad
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>>738216105
What "inside"? You have 12 characters. Even if we use your probability argument to assume they don't teleport adjacent to blue and attack them, you're using 8 characters to prevent ONE GUY from being attacked *probably*.
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>>738216315
Not that anon, but I'm curious, have you ever tried playing Awakening's Tiki paralogue on Lunatic or higher?
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It's always funny to see SoV fags defend the worst shit ever simply because they see pretty colours. You could have a map that just spells out "Fuck You" and they'd defend it to the end of the earth.
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>>738216589
No I got bored of my lunatic playthrough after Robin started steamrolling.
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>>738216315
yeah, risk management or something. if you can lower the risk to getting 3 rounded you lower it. you dont need to completely surround it, you can leave some tiles open from one side and you would still have a lower number of tiles for the witch to reach the center of that compared to exposing a unit to all sides
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>>738214615
I've played 6-10 only
>>738214612
really why's that? just use seals at 10 and not farm to 20?
>>738214651
fates is confusing, that one has 3 arcs or something right?
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>>738216632
>You could have a map that just spells out "Fuck You"
Everyone would defend a map like this, everyone except for faggots and maybe women without a sense of humour
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>>738216589
That map is way better by the simple virtue of not making the enemies warp, nevermind the design itself.
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>>738216589
My strat for that map was to make a long diagonal line of units preventing enemy access to Tiki.
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>>738216676
This entire argument is just stupid. If they happen to target one one of the outside units multiple times it doesn't fucking matter how you positioned anyone.
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>>738216315
it's much easier than that
all you have to do is use the turn wheel when the witches act like bitches and kill someone. Then they'll do something completely different because it's entirely random if they teleport and where.
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>>738200535
thats just mount and blade warband
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>>738216801
You're wrong about that. Line your units up and they only have 2 spaces to attack most units, 3 spaces on the edge, and you can make them not attack the edges by putting ranged units on them.
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>>738216801
why wouldn't it, you get a bunch of tanks
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>>738216870
>Forces you to use the troonwheel
Basically an admission that it's pure dogshit.
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>autosaged
>checks time
Yep, it is tranny time
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>>738216887
>Line your units up and they only have 2 spaces to attack most units
Am I crazy or do witches have 1-2 range and can attack pretty much whoever they want no matter how anyone is positioned? A unit within a line can still be targeted by 8 different tiles?
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>>738216976
Never forget Turnmeme was invented for the Gaiden remake exactly for this reason. They wanted to keep the "authenticity" of the original while allowing you an out in a game with 40 avoid tiles and warping enemies. Turnmeme was a rigging tool from its inception.
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>>738216718
>Lyndians are retarded
and water is wet
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>>738217210
how about I mani kati you BITCH
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>>738217131
My mistake, 3 spots.
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>>738216718
>that one has 3 arcs or something right?
They're entirely different games with different characters and maps. Birthright was made for the casual audience and Conquest was made for series veterans. Revelation was a DLC made for... grindfags, I guess? It reuses a lot of maps from the 2 main routes.
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>>738217131
if there are 10x10 tiles available for the witches and a unit can only be targeted if they teleport to only 8 specific tiles then that unit got a 8% chance to being targeted
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>>738217259
with those noddle arms? try it fag
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>>738217326
what makes you think all tiles are equally likely to be teleported to?
While it's very random as others have mentioned they do seem to try and teleport so they their attack target is at the edge of their range so they don't really hit people in the middle of your army. And they'll even sometimes teleport too far away and not be able to attack at all.
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Just open that turnwheel lil bro we all know that's what you actually do instead of all this cope
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>Echoes introduced Turnwheel
>3H kept it
>Engage kept it
You expect Fortune's Weave to include it, too?
Will it be part of the plot yet again? Or will they finally just have it as a gameplay option?
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>>738217523
without knowing how it works we can only discuss how it works by theory
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Witch AI is just shit and bad at killing stuff. None of these "strategies" move the percentage chance of a death like, at all.
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>>738217203
Indeed, which is another reason that I don't respect SoV. It's far more deserving of all the shit that's misplaced onto Awakening.
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>>738217671
My strategy is foolproof as long as you can survive 3 rounds of combat with all your units that don't have 1-2 range.
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so if you play without turnwheel is it better to bench the units with low res?
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>>738217630
I wouldn't doubt it if the devs added turnwheel BECAUSE of witches.
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>>738217843
On maps where there's Witches? Probably.
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>>738217639
>Sothis is in the game, sitting on her imaginary dimesion throne
It will be part of the plot again
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>>738217895
I guess it depends on who meets her. Will the glasses girl be the avatar, and she has a deal with Sothis?
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Witches should be a player-only tool, not for the enemies. We need more units like Sierra from TRS.
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>>738218098
>tfw always promote Ophelia to Witch using the free dlc item
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>>738218136
I like to give Azura a Warp tome and then almost never use it. That time when it bails me out, I feel a bit shameful.
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>>738218412
I didn't even know there was a warp tome.



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