>insists upon itselfname the game
>>738202762French JRPG's
>>738202762Expedition 33
>>738202762MorrowindVampire BloodlinesMetal Gear Solid
>>738202762elden ring and every kojima game
>>738202762>the same meme but worse
>>738202762>insists upon itselfThe irony that this sentence is extremely arrogant and that it insist upon itself is so fine it's annoying how most midwits and morons miss it.
>>738203247This statement insists upon itself
COE33
>>738202762The Witcher 3I genuinely don't understand why so many people seem to love it. The actual gameplay is mediocre as fuck.
>>738202762I wonder how this phrase that doesnt actually mean anything substantial got turned into an actual way to criticize media.
>>738203247your post is very arrogant
>>738203713They play it for the story and 'vibe', anon.
>>738203220The original isn't really a meme to be fair.This is AIDS though.
>>738203713Playing through the main quests is like binging a TV show, but you have to do shitty combat inbetween
>>738202762It's Last of Us Part 1 and every other answer is wrong.
>>738203852>Get's posted every fucking day by some retard not getting Peter is the retard of that scene.Typical modern meme if you ask me.
MGS2
>>738202762>>738204070Every single Naughty Dog game desu
>>738203718'it insists upon itself' is just a fancy way of saying that 'its overly pretentious to the point of no longer being entertaining'. it doesn't really apply to The Godfather in my opinion but it is a valid critique for some 'art' films. And by extension, for 'movie' games.
>>738203713Gameplayniggers will literally never be able to understand that what actually matters in video games is atmosphere and storyNot the buttons you hit
>Gameplayniggers will literally never be able to understand that what actually matters in video games is atmosphere and storyNot the buttons you hit
SMT: Nocturne.Anons, if you are trying to make a statement piece game, is there truly any other genre than JRPG?
Dark Souls and its infinite spin offs
>>738204160It's not. People just made it upThe joke is that you sound like a retard using that phrase like people are supposed to understand what you're talking about
>>738203126Metal gear solid hardly insist itself, maybe 2 or 3 but definitely not 1.
>>738202762>Nier Automata>Red Dead Redemption 2>Spec Ops: The Line>The Last of Us (and the sequel)>Metal Gear Solid (the whole franchise, but 2 especially), Death Stranding too while we're on Kojima>BraidThese games aren't necessarily bad but they definitely have lofty pretentious to be more clever than they actually are.
>>738204249>gameplayfag cant greentext properlyLMAOOOOO
>>738202762Metal Gear (all of them)
>>738204565>People just made it upPeople are using it without irony, Anon. Stupid people adopted it.
>>738204084I guess it depends on where exactly something counts as a meme. Is the original scene in which Bugs Bunny transforms into "Big Chungus" a meme?
>>738204249He's right tho, people remember the story and characters of Witcher 3. No one remembers their playthrough of tetris gameplay
>>7382045791 isn't too bad but the sequels are all filled with increasing amounts of Kojima drivel
>>738202762reddit ring for sure>zanzibarrt...forgive me...
>>738204742Witcher 3 isn't even a good example of story over gameplay because they story isn't good.
>>738202762anything you like>imagine liking games
>>738204887over...what game?>inb4 some tranime slop
>>738204742Truth nuke
>>738204970There are no games with good stories.
>>738202762>X exists, therefore you must engage with or use XThis is basically every "gacha game".
>>738204820Elden Ring is the poster boy for "insist itself" holy shit, that game could hqve been great if it was half of the bloat it had.
>>738205072oh wow buddy you sure got me. Cant even list something better cause you are scared
>>738202762Last of Us, and I mean both part 1 and 2.Fuck 'muh artistic' games like those two.
Disco Elysium
>>738202762Spec Ops: The LineStanley Parable
>>738202762Baldur's Gate 3
>>738202762Planescape Torment
>>738205449This one is right too. Fuck BG3, it ruined the series.
>>738205626>GRRRR I HATE EVERY GAME WITH A STORYwouldnt be surprised if your favourite "stories" were tranime slop where they scream HENTAI when the protagonist looks at their titties
>>738205774No anyone who likes tranime should kill themselves and so should moviegame faggots.
>>738205626Video games and films are completely different mediums and you should not be comparing them. Video games can be very good at storytelling, their interactivity gives them a unique strength.
>>738205890>Video games can be very good at storytellingNo.
>>738202762>>738205074>>738205108>>738204160The point of the scene is that peter's argument is so baffling in its stupidity that it causes an argument while they are about to drownwhen pressed about his opinion, its clear he has no substance to back up the argument and didnt even get through the movie, failing to understand the basic premise and scenes or that they speak a different language at some pointshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wMQz3iJDzE
>>738202762>insists upon itselfThis is code for "it's popular and well advertised".
>>738206038it implies the game is trying too hard and has airs of pretension
>>738204160What is the yardstick we can use to determine if a story is deep vs pretentious?
>>738202762Any Kojima game.
>>738203718Its the newest "you mad?" Notice nobody posts that anymore. Today it`s "insisting upon itself" and tomorrow it will be something else.
>>738203713I would go as far as to say the gameplay is dogshit even. However, TW3 is a game people play for other reasons.The story, the characters, the world, the music, the art style and the atmosphere all are top notch and enough to make it a good game for me and one of the most memorable titles of the last decade.I would like the game even more if the combat wasn't one of the most boring systems I have ever encountered.
>>738202762Any souls game, elden ring, soulslikes etc
>>738202762The Last of Us.Every Final Fantasy game.
>>738202762Fallout NV
>>738202762
>>738203000SPBP
>>738202762zoom redditernal
>>738204742Literally true, I'm literally a competitive tetris player btw, have thousands of hours combined in different tetris variants.And while I can remember some peak intense moments on some tournaments or some intense moments from my personal records, it's like an empty void of memories compared to playing the kino that is Witcher 3.Genuinely one of my favorite games and it took me a few attempts to get into it because I didn't like the menus and "features" at first (annoying bloated RPG mechanics, durability, crafting, etc).The story is so good, the DLCs are incredible.
Sly Cooper series, specifically the humor, insists upon itself. Everything it does is not funny and it really thinks it is. Not even for kids.
>>738202762Ace Attorney Investigations 2
>>738202762E33. It's the modern quintessential example.
>>738202762Niggspedition 33
>>738202762BG3, gay as fuck, shit writing and characters, mediocre gameplay and don't forget about reddit humour
This entire fucking franchise, good lord. It gets even more "flanderized" by the second game. Then completely nonsensical by the "third" entry. I thought people recommending it to be the more philosophical and theological but it fucking isn't, it's just wordy on how it portrays "religion bad" even in a fantasy setting. It's like the wish-fulfllment of many RPGfags back in the day about how they want to be atheist in a D&D setting.
>>738202762Last of us 2.
>>738203713It's one of the best detective games for sure. You play it for the vibes not for the tight gameplay. It's a movie game well done, like Asuras Wrath
>>738202762E33
>>738203000this
>>738202762Yugioh GX Dark World arc
bloodborne>ohhhh the old ones they're so incomprehensibly above us in existence ohhhhlike come on
>>738202857>>738203000fpbpspbpcheck'd
>>738202762>reviewerberg told me this game is a masterpiece so you MUST. LIKE. IT!
>>738203713The Witcher 3 would’ve been a solid 10/10 if you cut out the entire main game and just left Blood and Wine. Witcher 3: The Wild Hunt is the most average fucking game ever cobbled together. Witcher 3: Blood and Wine is like sex in videogame form
>>738202857>>738203000It really do be like that
>>738202762Majora's Mask
>>738202762GTA, terrible games.
KCD2
>>738204160It's fucking hilarious that Don Quixote (the OG by Cervantes) was chewed up by his contemporaries that were making Knight Errant slop and accused exactly of being snobby and pretentious and the only thing Cervantes wanted to do is a a parody to mock the writers of thattime that never finished their stories to milk more money from readers. Dude made the Konosuba of his time and it's still regarded as high art. 500 later and the same keeps happening with Manga and art in general. If you set a goal with your work and achieve it you weren't overly pretentious you just did it. For a work to "insist upon itself" you need to feel the author is high on his own farts. Godfather doesn't give those vibes
>>738202762Why come it don ' t gived brian more better head features
>>738204282Nocturne is kino but the fans are really annoying even by smt standards.
>>738211113That mostly because Cervantes was writing about his personal life of being enamored of being a good knight and facing the reality of war. He didn't just want to "milk" it, he changed his views soon after that chivalry actually was purposeful, it was just the fanciful tales that were dangerous.
>>738202857>>738203000Based. E33 fags have to be the most pretentious fags ever.The story for this game isn't even good. The first 2 acts are a generic save the world plotline, while the final act is a failed allegory for escapism.The escapism is bad message doesn't work because lumiere is basically a real dimension with real thinking people. At best you could argue the game keeps it ambiguous, but clearly it implies that the people of lumiere are real.Not to mention that using the paintings is objectively beneficial due to time dilation. You can use them to effectively extend your life.Either way, lumiere doesn't work as an escapism allegory and has no grounding in reality.The ending is also a bit of an artificial dichotomy created for the sake of melodrama.The gameplay of the game is also highly derivativeAll in all, you fags are retards impressed by shallow aestheticsThe story is not mature, and it's nowhere near a 10
>>738211328It's literally just a remix of FF10 with european a european cultural bent and a really stupid choice at the end rather than the character's fate being set in stone. It's mediocre.
>>738202762the point of that scene was that Peter was being a filtered retard who couldn't articulate his grievances so was making up nonsense. the fact zoomers have latched onto it as an actual argument speaks volumes about them.
>>738202762E33, New Reddit, Witcher 3 back in the day (not anymore)
>>738211328Agreed, it's babby's first JRPG and they get blown away.
>>738211496>the point of that scene was that Peter was being a filtered retard who couldn't articulate his grievances so was making up nonsense. the fact zoomers have latched onto it as an actual argument speaks volumes about them.Peter wants to say the godfather is long, meandering and ultimately incredibly fucking boring. He just doesn't want to get called out on it. he's right, fucking maifa slop.
>>738207748>The storyIs it really though? It's another generic setting with elves and dragons. And I doubt that the actual PLOT (the events that actually happen in the game) are very interesting. Interpersonal drama isn't enough for a story to be good. Normalfags think the story is good because they don't read that many stories in the first place. I haven't played the game btw. I'm just judging it based on aesthetics.
>>738211573It's a trilogy where the final part is terrible, if it came out today everybody would've shat on the entire thing just because it didn't stick the landing
>>738202762Persona 5. It’s fanbase can go to hell.
>>738204749Feel like the series is fine. It has moments that are kinda kojima-corny but feel like they don’t torch the entire experience. Most of DS1 and all of DS2 was doing way to fucking much because Kojima recognized how social media views him as a messiah and went full tilt retard mode.
>>738211629It most likely has a lot less elves and dragons than you think it has.The game's story revolves around Geralt doing detective work trying to find his missing adopted daughter, who's the mcguffin for some magic prophecy shit. What hooks people in is the worldbuilding, everything feels grounded, there are monsters and humans (the real monsters omg so le deep!!!).The quests in the game are just, generally, very well written, with characters that have depth, flaws. Twists that you don't expect that hit harder as you dig deeper. It has alright exploration and a cool medieval-fantasy sort of world.And it's not full of niggers or strong womyn, the strong female characters earn their respect. I would say that things don't feel "out of place", it's like a good adult TV show. It's not Sopranos or The Wire tier, but it's better than Game of Thrones. That's sort of what it's going for.It also, incidentally at the time it came out, incorporated a lot of slop mechanics that were all the rage at the time: crafting, durability, meandering RPG systems that give small buffs, some character customisation, etc. Those were the things I hated the most about the game, that I felt got in the way, but all my normie friends LOVED gathering worthless shit materials and crafting some crap for +1 upgrade.
>>738202762>insists upon itselfwhat does this phrase even mean
>>7382047491 is worse than 2 because 1 is not self aware. 3 is worse than both though because it's shameless memberberries with a Mary Sue in the starring role.
>>738211573you can only say this if you're Low IQ, which Peter factually and canonically is. He's a retard who got filtered by a good movie being too high brow for him. that's the point of the scene. he's being an idiot, as he always is. the Godfather isn't good "because people said it's good", it's good because it delves deep into the concepts of fatherhood and how the American Dream can be interpreted in a dark way in a way very few films had before or since.
>>738203787Literally what story. It's forgettable as fuck. Even Game of Thrones has a better story.
Nier series
>>738202762Metal Gear Solid 4 Everything is a wink and nod to itself. It's great at first, but obnoxious the longer the game goes on.
>>738212152Godfather was only ever relevant because to GI gen the mere existence of """The Mafia""" was a dark esoteric secret and not just everyday reality, and their children the boomers who worshipped the previous generation even as they denied it same as every other generation latched onto it
>>738204160to me, "it insists upon itself" is a way of saying that a film has a seeming disconnect between intention and execution, in other words it's clear that it wants to be one thing but the harder it tries to be that thing the clearer it is that's it not that thing, it's like that Dan Hentschel bit where he says "I am NOT GAY!! I AM STRAIGHT!" over and over
>>738211969>It most likely has a lot less elves and dragons than you think it has.I played the Witcher 2 and I saw elves and dragons in the first couple of hours, though? >Geralt doing detective work trying to find his missing adopted daughter,Ah yes, how original. >very well written, with characters that have depth, flaws.Writing characters with flaws is entry level stuff. It doesn't make a story a 10. Is the actual PLOT interesting, or do people like it purely because of interpersonal drama?Medieval fantasy has been done countless times.
>>738202857>>738203000/thread
>>738202762I honestly have no idea what is meant by "it insists upon itself" for any type of media
>>738212134All of that tells me you don’t know the story. It’s okay ranjeet. You can still dress up as Venom Snake and pretend you’re based.
>>738204565>People just made it upliterally every term in existenceFiguring out what this one means is pretty simple for a native English speaker. Sorry you had to find out your English isn't very good like this but we're not going to limit what we say to what ESLs can understand.
>>738204565brother.... EVERY phrase is made up
>>738203000/thread/
>>738212152>you can only say this if you're Low IQ, which Peter factually and canonically is. He's a retard who got filtered by a good movie being too high brow for him. that's the point of the scene. he's being an idiot, as he always is. the Godfather isn't good "because people said it's good", it's good because it delves deep into the concepts of fatherhood and how the American Dream can be interpreted in a dark way in a way very few films had before or since.Nah it was a cultural touchstone at the time but it's not good, at all. We have other works to compare it to these days and it doesn't hold up as literature or a movie.
>>738212552Witcher 3 has a lot less elves than Witcher 2.As for dragons, there are a few instances of the big monsters like Manticores and Griffons. The Scoia'tel are basically gone in TW3.Flaws that feel human and beliveable is good writing though. Again, like I said, everything on the whole is well written. I find the main story plot to be somewhat cliche and not that interesting, but the way it weaves into the big side quests works well, and those are all very good.Idk what to say, you can play for yourself and see. I personally found it better than Witcher 2 in every way. The combat still sucks, but it's a lot less frustrating now.
>>738204742Counter argument: Everyone remembers the hardships they overcame playing one of the Dark Souls games, but they can't reliably tell you what the fuck is happening in any of their narratives.
>>738202857FPBP>>738203000SPBP
>>738211496Or, maybe it was also Seth's opinion.
>>738202857/thread>>738203000double /thread
>>738202762Death Stranding, both 1 & 2. Its just pretentious incoherent garbage produced by an almost retired Asian madman huffing his own farts trying his damnedest to apply his game direction skills into being a Hollywood movie maker. And he fails time and time again without an actual editor to filter and contextualize his insanity for the general audience.
>>738210560>It's one of the best detective games for sure.If you're completely and utterly braindead, I see why you might think that. You never get to do any actual detective work. Everything is signposted and pointed out to you by the game.
>>738203787Half of the story is chasing after your lesbian adopted daughter (we mock Bethesda for having plots centered around following family members, but W3 gets a pass).It's pure shit
>>738215786No shit retard, it's a game for the fucking masses, what do you expect some impossibly hard to play solve the fucking murder with no clues ass story?Fucking mongoloid ass opinion.
>>738202762Steins;Gate
>>738202762>le epic blurry image just like on 9gag when I was a boyTZD
>>738215594Based opinion, finally someone with the courage to say the truth.
Dark Souls 3 and Elden Ring. Their games become more and more flanderized with each installment. Oh boy, can't wait to find insane NPC #437, I wonder if they'll also die tragically at the end of their questline.
>>738203718As a high IQ, often pretentious person who hates pretentious things with a passion, this phrase resonates deeply with me. I mean that sincerely and without a hint of irony. It’s a beautiful turn of phrase.
>>738202762DeltaruneAlso, the fanbase is cancer
