>the eternal gaming debate
One is optimal for games, one is optimal for tiny millisecond running applications.>wow! I can run grep 30% faster! This is totally worth the 15% frame rate loss in every game!
>>738204843optimal for jeets
linuxfags can't even beat apple, let alone windows lmao
Shant be subject to the whimsical elves at Microsoft any longer.
>>738204617if you are a pedophile, one of them is better suited for (You).
>>738204617Despite how prevalent the users are in tech discussions, nobody actually gives a fuck about linux, not even now when microsoft and windows are supposedly doomed. Even with all the "im totally done with windows and am moving to linux!" posts the marketshare is still tiny, they still get no support, and even the threads related to it here are dead as fuck and just shitposting about how everyone is a jeet. There's no debate when nobody knows one side even exists
PC fats will say console users are tech illiterate but then use windows cause they are tech illiterate for linux
>>738204617>microsoft announces windows 11 k2>it's looking real goodLinuxbros... I'm sorry, but I think I'll be returning to the dark side. It was fun.
>>738204617You have to be a fucking retard to even understand how to setup and use linux
>>738205740What advantage does Linux give over Windows?
Install GNU/LinuxNOW
>>738206630Not require 32 GB of ram for one.
JEETDOWS VERSUS TROONIXFIGHT!!!!!
Hi I use Cachyos and everything runs wonderfully on it! Sucks to suck I guess to those who can't use a terminal. Only niggers can't use the terminal!
>>738207472I've used Windows with less than a GB.
>>738206630Has a bunch of customization and native support for a lot of 21st century features and programs.On Windows features seem to be almost exclusively forced pet projects, metrics optimization or whatever can provide a manager with clout, not features that users actually want, and even those features that get pushed through will be put on a deferred maintenance track until they break. It's like if Red Hat, GNOME and systemd were the only competition in town.
>>738207907Not for long you're not
post your distro screenshotsI can't decide between all of them
>>738211295Screenshots don't tell you anything bro.You can install any desktop environment on any distro without much trouble.I can give you some reasons why you should use my distro (cachyos)>Arch based which is what SteamOS is built on>Any package you can't find in the official repos is guaranteed to be on AUR>Kernel and packages are optimized for gaming>Rolling release so you always have the latest updates>GPU drivers come preconfigured
>>738211295>I can't decide between all of themThe only incorrect answer is mint because of its retarded defaults. Any other distro (Ubuntu, Fedora, Arch, Cachy etc) will have sane-enough defaults.
>>738212582what's wrong with mint's defaults? I installed it some years ago and it felt buggy so I dropped it>>738211494sounds really good thanks manI'm going to check it out now
>>738212743NTA but biggest problem with Mint is outdated packages because it's a fixed release distro. Fine for daily computer use but for gaming it's a mixed bag. Mint is what I would recommend to normalfags who want as painless a transition as possible from Windows but if you want to run demanding games it's not ideal.
>>738212743Cinnamon is still stuck on X11 which has limitations that will affect anyone with a semi-modern PC.>VRR breaks with more than 1 display>No Fractional scaling>Mixed refresh displays cause stuttering>No HDR
>>738211494>list of things only an experienced linux autist cares about or knows what they meanThe real reason to use Cachy is that it streamlines most basic things you need, performs well and is in active development.
>>738213263>Mint is what I would recommend to normalfags who want as painless a transition as possible from WindowsStop saying this, people need to get this out of their head. There's nothing intuitive about Mint, it is objectively a bad distro to ever recommend UNLESS its on some Windows 7 Tier laptop. Even then I still wouldn't recommend it.
I use mint for my study pc and it works great.
>>738213396What would you recommend for the best transition from Windows then? Fucking Ubuntu? lmao
>>738213915Debian or Bazzite.
>>738213386>list of things only an experienced linux autist cares about or knows what they meanEvery thing I listed with the exception of AUR directly impacts gaming and AUR is very convenient when you need it.
>>738213970>debianconfirmed retard who doesn't know what he's talking about
Windows LTSC just works.
>>738214029very true but I'm assuming most people are luddites who can barely handle updating Windows.
>>738213970>DebianHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
>>738213970No problems since 2018 when I migrated. As for old packages, once I had to do a system update for newer packages to compile a crypto related software. Often times it's good to stay ahead, but not too far ahead in case malware finds its way into distributions. The fagpacks I have installed is only protontricks, they're a cancer I try to minimize.
How many years of HRT do I need to use before installing Linux?
>>738215128you should know already, microtroon
>>738204843>optimal for games
>>738206235>it's looking real goodthis guy unironically fell for the izzat farming attempt
will switching to linux help with my IT career
>>738217189not really. most coding software is built for windows.unless you're dealing with server side of things, then yeah it's 99% linux.
>>738217285>not really. most coding software is built for windows.what the fuck are you using beside VSCode
>>738204843>>738204919>>738204926>>738205041>>738205307Bot posting paid by microslop
I set up dual boot with Nobara.I have not felt the need to boot to Windows since yet.Its not for everyone, but it works for me
>>738217189Anon 99% of your job will be about retards not understanding windows
>>738204617I'm running Ubuntu and with steam's Proton just about every game works fine. But I'm playing vintage story a lot lately without issue.Using Linux instead of Windows lets me use more of my computer for gaming and less of it on the OS.And fuckin windows is ALWAYS trying to slurp up my ram
>>738213915Ubuntu is objectively better than Mint yes and I haven't heard an argument otherwise. Like I said, Mint is using Cinnamon / X11 by default which is objectively bad for any semi-modern PC.
>>738215045nice VM, fag
>>738217969>footfag
>>738218051>X11 year old loving pedophileReminder, under X11:>VRR breaks with more than 1 display>No Fractional scaling>Mixed refresh displays cause stuttering>No HDRMint is objectively worse.
>>738215829Now show the Nvidia card comparisons. Let's see how many more frames a 4080 or 5080 gets under linux
>>738204617REMINDER all modern linuxfags are zoomers larping as enthusiasts after watching pewdiepie switch to linux
>>738204617>debatelollmao
>>738218186why should i care about nvidia issues caused by nvidia themselves?
>>738207415Installing Rust/Linux right now
>>738218253>Windows is slower>NO NOT LIKE THAT!every fucking time, lmao
>>738218397linux is fasternvidia is slower
>>738218113>shit that doesn't matter for the vast majority of usersyour grandma does not have an HDR ultrawide monitor
>>738217189most IT stuff now is learning how to use the cloud as in microsoft azure or AWS. they support all major x86 and ARM.
uhh windows sisters what the FUCK is this???
>>738218051>Gnome has a mac style top bar>Application controls aren't on the top bar because no server side decorations>KDE does this without issueHow bad Linux UI is always shocks me.
>>738218734GNOME is the laughing stock of Linux for a reason
>>738218776>GNOME is the laughing stock of Linux for a reasonHey, at least they do that one thing well that people like. Such as... uh that usability feature or something.
>>738218734The only thing well done about Linux is the kernel itselfEverything else is a clusterfuck
Is there a Linux-tan?
>>738218734Use case for a good UI?
>>738218889Like disabling the logout button.
>>738218987There's this old thing
>>738219119I'm just learning about this, incredible stuff over there
I was on arch. Games ran great. No noticeable difference from the windows version. But for some fuck ass reason my TV would never work properly. Whenever I turned it on it had fucked up artifacts. No matter what I did it kept happening. So I switched back to Windows because it just works. I fucking hate it because I like Arch way better than Windows by a massive margin. It's simply not quite there yet.
>>738207907i've used windows 3.1 with 16mb, what the fuck is your point?
>>738204617you guys can't even come to a consensus on what distro of Linux is actually good for people to useeveryone eats at mcdonald's not your stupid mom and pop minimart
>>738219069
>>738218987Someone made this one for Linux Mint
>>738219790>Whenever I turned it on it had fucked up artifacts.X11 or Wayland? NVIDIA or AMD?Just about any Linux problem can be solved in 5 minutes with chatgpt nowadays.
>>738219956>what distro of Linux is actually good for people to useyou decide your own use case, level of tech literacy and willingness to learn, retard
>>738219956>you guys can't even come to a consensus on what distro of LinuxBecause they are for different use cases retard. You wouldn't use a hammer to tighten a screw.
>>738220037dryad terraria but in store clerk uniform
>>738219119Gnome has always looked like dogshit to me, and looking into how they do things just gives me more reasons to avoid them at all costs.
>>738220217>>738219119>>738218734>>738218776>>738219069A FUCKING FOOT
>>738204617Been using Windows since 1998. Its hard to switch
>>738219119
linux is only good if you have amd gpu and 93% of pc gamers have nvidia.
>>738220047Wayland and nvidia which is likely the issue. I spent ages trying to fix it, tons of commands and configs and same shit every time. Likely my specific hardware and use case, but I need my TV to just work. For 99% of people Linux would be fine.
>>738204617i VILL switch to linux minti VILL have zero troubles
>>738219956Whichever one comes pre-installed on the computer mainstream users are buying.Which in most cases for computers shipped with a Linux distribution means Android, or ChromeOS.If anyone was the McDonalds of the Linux world, it would definitely be Google.The artificial segregation of the most popular ARM Linux distribution, and the most popular immutable distribution away from the rest of the Linux ecosystem to reassure Microsoft's bruised ego makes less sense with every year when their one blessed competitor Apple is now also a majority ARM platform.
>>738220646You probably won't have any issues. Nvidia drivers have stopped being a meme for most situations
>>738218470Yet my 4090's numbers in Windows rape that budget AMD card's numbers on lincucks.
>>738220509I always had bad luck trying to get displays of different resolutions working with NVIDIA. The drivers are fucking terrible. I've heard they've improved somewhat in the last two years but still far behind AMD.
>>738204843>worth the 15% frame rate loss in every gameI hope you are being paid to shill for microslop telling lies like this anon. I literally have better fps on fedora with the cachy kernel than I do on windows, and I can literally test this easily because I dualboot.
>>7382207424080 super anon hereI can't play Space Marine cus I get like 50 fps even at the launch bay. Doom Dark Ages also ran like shit, like 40fps lower than windows.Most games are fine, but it's so annoying.
>>738220509I also had some difficulty getting Arch/CachyOs to play nice with my TV. Different issue from yours though: In my case Cachy refused to let me replicate/mirror my main monitor to my TV. Perhaps because they are set to different refresh rates.Anyway, I switched to Nobara because of that (and some other minor annoyances) and it works perfectly with my TV now. Maybe it would be worth livebooting Nobara (or some other distro if you prefer) and check to see if that resolves your issue? Would be neat if it did.
>>738220646linux mint is FINE as a starting point for jumping into linux but dont be afraid to branch out and dip your toes into more complicated distros
>>738220970bitch please, you're bragging about your $2000 card beating a $700 card by 40%?
>>738221054Blame NVIDIA being kikes and making driver development as difficult as possible.
>>738221218Sorry AMD's top end card is shit. If you're trying to shill your cult, make sure you have something worth shilling.
>>738220485Nvidia is really only around 75% of PC Gamers. Although it wouldn't surprise me if that number skewed more in Nvidia's favor when looking only at Windows 11. It can be very difficult to buy a computer with Windows 11 pre-installed that doesn't include an Nvidia GPU.This is almost certainly a big part of why AMD and Intel have stopped investing much in drivers for Windows. What's the point? Nvidia has it absolutely locked down, and Nvidia doesn't believe vendors when they threaten to ship anything else.This is also why the Linux ecosystem only invested in low-watt computing devices and the high performance market for so long. There really wasn't much of a market for Linux systems in the middle because Microsoft had it so locked down.
>>738221318I am quite happy with my 9070 and it didn't cost me a kidney. Then again I didn't buy into (((nvidia))) marketing with RTX and framegen slop.
>>738221318you bought a card that's designed to kill itself with its poorly designed connectorhumble yourself
>>738221431>t-those grapes are sour anyway!
>>738221245Look, im just saying how it is.
>>738204617has microsoft even fixed that last disaster of an update? it seems like every new update is some OS breaking mess
>>738204617the only thing i struggle with and i think this might just be a retard skill issue is installing pirated gog games because i have to install them through the setup exe but i just use heroic to handle it. Otherwise, >add non steam game to steam>click play>werks 99% of the time
>>738221472>2 more weeks
>>738220996For my monitors, one is 2k one is 1080p, both different refresh rates, no issue. But my 4k 120hz TV it just couldn't handle no matter what.>>738221195I think Fedora is just a better parent for the most part, but I like Arch
>>738221519>has microsoft even fixed that last disaster of an update?Which one?
>>738221558Has linux got a GUI yet? NO!
>>738221524unbelievableyou're actually defending nvidia blatantly fucking you over
>>738221519Microsoft is moving all their production/development to India. Which means the company has maybe 5-10 years before total collapse.I honestly think SteamOS will be the default platform of the future, mostly because it's the only viable variant run by a company.Linux variants, as a whole, are too vulnerable to "too many cooks" bullshit and inconsistent quality control.
>>738221384AMD and Intel act like what they are, IHVs or Independent Hardware Vendors. They provide hardware first and foremost. Nvidia is a software company first, hardware company 2nd. The non existent 5070ti and 5080 now are proof.
>>738221652It literally works on my machine. But I got fucked over because some people don't know how to plug in cables securely.
>>738221656If linux ever becomes the default, I'm moving to Pennsylvania and becoming Amish.
>>738221718https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optimism_bias
>>738221813>wikipedophilia
>>738221861>i don't like what it says therefore it's wrongit describes you, like it or not
>>738220485I don't buy hardware against my own interests.
>>738221473NVIDIA does this shit every gen how many times are you gonna fall for it>PHYSX!>HAIRWORKS!>TESSELATION!
>>738221558Yesterday or so they were detecting certificates as trojans.
>>738218889A functioning on-screen keyboard out of the box unlike KDE.
>>738221813>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_biasThere's literally millions of cards out in the wild that this hasn't happened on.
>>738221803I didn't think it could be dethroned but Microsoft has essentially rotted from within.They have a critical mass of indians working there which will inevitable hire more indians and so on until complete saturation. At that point they will be unable to field a functioning product.Also pretty much everyone in the younger generation already grew up on iphones/androids so it's not like the generations before them where almost everyone had a PC in the house and a work PC. Younger generation don't have that kind of loyalty and as long as whatever they're using runs the very few apps they need it's good enough.
>>738222154yes, nvidia insurance payout has gone up by 10x in one year but you're perfectly safeuntil you're notwhy are you such a cultist?
>>738222249And how many more cards have they sold in that time?Not saying it has never happened, but I think it's not as big of an issue as you want to make it out to be.
>>738222301>it's not a big issuethe connector is objectively a downgrade to 8 pinsit has lower safety margin, no load balancing, underengineered wiring and exists solely for aestheticsyou can keep coping about how it won't affect you but you don't get to choose
>>738221558>If you have admin access you can control the computer and see everything its doingWoow not like it’s totally different on Linux
>buying njudea
>>738204617having 1% market share is not really a debate but ok
>>738222040DLSS is here to stay, and even without it, AMD can't compete on raw power. Keep buying store brand components and using a store brand OS.
>>738220291same, if it works dont fix itall these retard who are too retarded to stay on Win 10 and upgrading to 11 are just dumb zoomers
>>738222529you missed a 0 there, it's 10% of english speakersit's only 1% in chinamicrosoft is indeed shitting their pants about it and the only thing that's standing in the way of linux adoption is oem support
>>738222603Good luck with the impeding collapse of game sales.
>>738222745can i get a source on that? also using only steam stats lolevery fortnite and LoL player is also using Windows and they have more users than steam
>>738222406We should go back to Molex
>>738222428Its really amazing. I been genning sloppa nonstop since buying Njudea cards
>>738222843steam survey and basic arithmetics>every fortnite and LoL player is also using Windows and they have more users than steamfortnite is smaller than cs2 nowand league players aren't human
>>738223067Wincucks btfo
>>738222406It really only exists because it is cheaper, and saves time when installing them in servers and workstations.Also less risky since those cards tend to draw less power than gaming hardware, but even with that the number of those cards burning out is a lot higher than normal.This is really a product of Nvidia shifting to selling defective workstation hardware to the general public, and AMD and Intel having to follow Nvidia's lead since they're so much of the market. No vendor is going to buy a different PSU just to sell a very small percent of systems with another companies GPU hardware.
>>738222749Diana won.
>>738223067what is the source of that graph tho? you cant just post your made up graphs
>>738221647You can even pick and choose: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphical_user_interface#Examples
>>738223168steam survey you fucking idiotfeel free to go on the wayback machine and verify the numbers
>>738223231>wikipedophilia Keep your MSDOS clone.
>>738223234Why did you give January 2 Y's?
What's the ideal OS (Operating system) for me if I hate the Steam Machine, hate Valve, hate Half Life, hate FPS games, hate the Steam Deck, hate Gabe Newell, hates SteamOS and hate PC gaming in general?
>>738204617OP, you have to understand that some linux distros are just better than windows.Some are not, some are dogshit, but SOME are great.
>>738223234thats just the 3 million Decks reporting as linux users tho, you are fucking retarded
>>738223434>ubuntu
>>738223441Let the cope begin
>>738223426This one:https://www.lakka.tv/articles/2024/05/02/rpi-composite/But you have to be a CRTfag to enjoy it.
>>738223369if you write january 2025 it reformats inself into the date and i couldn't be bothered to fix it>>738223441why is your cope so predictable and impulsive?it's almost like you just want to seethethe deck is less than a quarter of linux users
>>738223512>Steam Decks report as Linux users in Valve's hardware surveys. Running SteamOS (Arch Linux), they have driven Linux gaming to record highs, accounting for roughly 20–25% of all Linux users on the platform as of early 2026.
>>738223582>thats just the 3 million Decks reporting as linux users tho
>>738223582>>738223441>Steam Decks report as Linux users in Valve's hardware surveys. Running SteamOS (Arch Linux)Yeah when you sort by linux only, not on the general OS breakdown.
>>738204926Gaming on linux is currently more feasible than gaming on mac.The situation on mac is comparable to what linux was like before proton was a thing. Wine bottles and shit, not as abstracted from you as they are with proton. Although there have been some recent advances with things like GPTK (Game Porting Tool Kit)
>>738209668struggling to play marvel rivals smoothly on 16 gb msi raider ge76
>>738223886They're always included in the total count, but for whatever reason Valve doesn't show SteamOS in that view.>>738223441I see we are already to the dichotomy of Linux>Linux will never be ready for normal users because you have to use the Terminal!>That Linux distribution doesn't count because you don't have to use the Terminal!
>>738219119>posted to /r/linuxmemes 15 hours ago>[ Removed by moderator ]kek you posted that didn't you, anon
>>738223149...The fastest falloff to a Capcom release contest.>>738223516Last I used these distros on a 3b it sucked. And from what I recall, you couldn't go too fast on the newer Pis or it'd cause interference or something?
>>738222428nvidia is blazing fast for AI gen althoeverbeit
>>738204617
well, one lets me play the online games that I want to play with all of my friendsand the other doesn't. So, easy choice.I don't care devs COULD enable linux, the issue is they don't care enough to. So I don't care enough to switch over.
Post your install date.
>>738206630>No forced ADs like Onedrive or Office 365>No forced updates>Install/Uninstall whatever application>No telemetry>No forced system requirements like TPM>No XBOX GAMEBARFor me it was the fucking ADs EVERY. FUCKING. UPDATE. FOR FUCKS SAKE JUST LET ME USE MY FUCKING PC.
>>738213970This nigger seriously said Debian for normies.
>>738224649On my PI3 runs fine.But lakka specifically, recallbox is fucking shit.
>>738226862You using the devel builds or that one you linked?
>>738226942The one i linked.I tried devel builds as well, but i ended up wiping out everything for this again.
>>738227015Why, too slow?
>>738227048It was more that i was fucking up with the moonlight and ended up destroying the thing and ended up just rolling everything back.
I'd like to give CachyOS a spin or something like that but the huge hit to Nvidia card performance and lack of anything as robust as afterburner on Linux is a real dealbreaker for me, maybe if Nvidia ever starts playing nice
>>738227420>huge hit to Nvidia card performanceanti linux propagandawhat do you need afterburner for?
>>738227420>lack of anything as robust as afterburner on Linuxhttps://github.com/ilya-zlobintsev/LACT
microshart fags are so fucking cringe. they fight for the status quo because they are too dumb to figure out how to use something different and act like it is a conscious choice they made rather than because they are lazy and stupid.
>>738227420>>738227736LACT is pretty nice to use and simpler compared to afterburner. Dragging a point on a curve and then flattening everything else always felt weird and unintuitive. It's worked on my nvidia gpu and was able to get a better undervolt compared to windows.As for performance hit I can't really comment because I capped my FPS to 72 when I was on windows and on cachyos I'm doing the same and still hitting that mark. Supposedly the newest versions of proton have fixes to help with the nvidia tax. It's supposed to only affect dx12 though.
>>738227950Why is which OS other people use causing you so much emotional trauma?
>>738227985you can use whatever you want. Why would I give a fuck? Are you also too retarded to be able to synthesize what you read into coherent thoughts?I didnt say using micrshart was cringe. I said the retards acting like they choose to use it for any other reason than they are too lazy and stupid to figure out how to use something else is what is cringe
>>738228065Ok cool so shut the fuck up with your whining.
>>738228085wrap my ass cheeks around your face and suck out a big ole wet fart faggot
>>738228123>Waaaaah those people are using Windows and not Linux waaaaah how could they?! They are dumb stupid poopieheads waaaaaaaaaah!>Not that I care of course...
>>738228162wrap my ass cheeks around your face and suck out a big ole wet fart faggot
>>738228195>More sopping vagina noises
>>738213970Nigger are you serious?
>>738227660Am I misinformed? I was told that Nvidia linux drivers expose a lot less in terms of voltage control meaning you can't perform the same degree of undervolt/overclock you'd get with Afterburner on windows and that even that aside Nvidia cards generally perform a bit worse on linux
>>738204960>whimsical elves at MicrosoftMore like malevolent goblins, anon.
>>738213970I'm on debian and this is trolling. It's a server OS and not really meant for desktop usage.Use something else. Arch is supposed to be excellent if you're willing to put in some effort. Otherwise, Ubuntu.
>>738217969>>738218734>>738218776>>738218889>>738220252
>>738204617These is no debate, Linux won a while ago.Even Linux Mint, a non-gaming distro is perfectly capable of gaming using an nvidia 3080.
