Did anyone play this game? How good is it?
Best deckbuilder, simple as
I played it before the story was finished, was fun. Really should get back into it, just haven't felt the urge yet.
I JUST CHECKED THIS GAME IN MY WISHLISTWHY DOES THIS THREAD APPEAR RIGHT AFTER LOOKING AT THIS GAME IN STEAMGET OUT OF MY HEAD
>>738204668kino, will be buying their next game day 1. Please use my wife, Charon.
>>738204668I have around 200h in it. It's the best deck builder made to date. The anime art style it uses does such a disservice to the game making it look generic despite being so flush with good mechanics, boss fights and story.
>>738204848Vira wouldn't say this
Is this the thread?
>>738204668There is a lot of reading, sure you can just skip it but it's a large portion of the game.I've finished it so it's quite good.Decent gameplay, it's not full autism but final boss fight is quite challenging on expert.Music is also alright.Story is just anime bullshit so it's not important.
>>738204723thisbut avoid the DLCs, they actively make the game worse
>>738204993chev entering Vira's head, but instead of making her gay, it just shills roguelite deckbuilders to her
>>738204848>He knowsSend in the clean-up squad.
>>738205035>3998x6000BIG
>>738204848Because its on sale for deckbuilder fest DUMMY
>>738205223Have some more
>>738204668I have like 70 hours on it which is a lot for me, I did fully finish its story, did a few hard/challenges, I basically never sink hundreds of hours into a single gameIt's definitely my favorite take on the deckbuilder RPG concept because you have multiple party members instead of just one character at a time, in non-deckbuilder RPGs I also vastly prefer party based RPGs over just a single protag
>>738204668I bought it cuase it looked cute but theres so much reading to do for the gameplay it makes me feel dumb
>>738204668Great game, there is too much to praise about itMy only real complain is that the gameplay is demanding, so you don't really get that urge of "one more run" like in other roguelike deckbuilders though on the upside it makes each run feel more fulfilling
>>738205813>one more runYea because a full BM4 + CW run is like 2 hours long. My average sts run is under 40m
>>738204668I'll give it points for having a story and endgame for a roguelite deckbuilder but it's pretty light in content in comparison. You play the same map and fight the same mobs. There's a good variety of bosses but there's only two endgame ones. I also wish you could make runs a bit longer since some builds never get to reach their full potential.The whole subplot with the betrayer and the mafia game being cut left a lot of questions about the story.
I hope we hear more about the sequel
endgame content is just BM and challenges right?
>>738207162It'll probably be a sequel when it comes to mechanicsI doubt the stories will be related though
It feels more like a JRPG with deckbuilding rather than a more strict StS clone. In those games you can always see exactly what the enemy will do and most of your actions are deterministic while Chrono Arc has lots of % chances and doesn't tell you what the enemy will do. There is also a lot of fucking card text to read, at least for some of the characters I played in my first run. Wasn't a huge fan but I might go back to it
>>738207534Lucy and Momori are the only characters that are 1:1 from CA for lore reasons, itd be remiss if the other characters being different from their CA selves isnt ever importantThe UI they've shown off is different so who knows what mechanics will be changed if any.
>>738205035>>738205356Azar's onahole
>>738204668It's one of the games I shill the most. I like that it comes down a lot to how you play as much as your deck building. The last bosses are some asshole clenchers sometimes too
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>>738204668>roguelike>deckbuildertrash.
Was it necessary to make her this hot?
>>738204668of its genre top 3
>>738204668>tfw THAT one second world boss
>>738204668>Momori abusing simulatorYep, it's great
>buy game christmas first year of its EA>played maybe 2-3 runs all these yearsI should really sit down and crank through sometime.
>>738206021My average BM4 is 4.5 hours because I play so slowly. I do win at least 95% of my runs though. My average sts 2 a10 is like 1.5 hours.This is the best deckbuilder made to date.
>>738211098It helps that the way it works is so unique compared to all the others.
>>738210376Her theme kicks ass and it's nothing pressel can't handle. I think Huz has a bunch of heals that increase if the target is at dd, Leryn has stuff like that too.
>>738208550My man who did nothing wrong deserves it.
>>738207646Intent ended up as part of Narhan's gimmick and you at least know their turn timer.
I generally hate most of the story twists in this game. But somehow they made it work well.Actual spoilers the whole simulation stuff and SOMA bullshit is one of my personally most hated tropes. But it actually works here? I think its because of the depth and scope with which the concepts were explored.
>>738211223Im pretty sure he was talking about the literal fucking tank
When picture related was first shown, I was convinced the middle girl was Lucy. But then they showed "P.B." here >>738211403 and now I'm not so sure anymore. She still looks a lot like Lucy. But here her eyes aren't even blue. Though in picture related they still appear to be. Did they change P.B.'s eye colour between the initial splash picture and >>738211403? Or could they be two similar/clone/something characters?And I still think they look a lot like Lucy. And the way she has got an acronym as some kind of pseudonym instead of a real name is also very suspicious.
>>738211687Probably because it's not actually about the simulation at all and the simulation is basically just a plot device.
>>738212043Them mostly being on Wanted posters probably means they've adopted pseudonyms, if I had to go out on a limb.
>>738211687The plot twist behind the twin character really got me. It was really well executed imo.
I put 80 hours into it but I never finished it. Got filtered by blood mist 2 and if that was optional, something else. I never beat it on expert either, not sure if that was required for the true ending. I'm pretty bad at deck builders, but still seemed to me that some of the fights were complete bullshit. Anyway, it's worth playing.
>>738204668having an actual good story in a roguelite is very counterintuitive unless you plan to binge play it until you finish it since if you're like me you end up taking very long breaks from roguelites and will occasionally do a run or two every once in a while which makes it hard to remember whats going on with the storythat being said it is very cool and fun, i honestly might like it more than slay the spire
>>738210730>use Momori's bratty insult cards>get turned on enough that it makes it difficult to focusI did not need this additional level of difficulty.
>>738211403Parris wife. I'm investing early into Parris-stock. My gut feeling is usually good on this stuff.
>>738204668It was a refreshing take on deckbuilders combining it with Shounen anime plotline and a loli MC. I just wish there was more alternative levels and enemy/boss variety. I also wished they would extend characters backstories based on how many times you beat the run with them, otherwise there isn't much purpose in switching your best build. Soundtrack was awesome, to the point i downloaded it on my phone. I hope their next game is even more game play loop focused.
>>738210730i dont know what it is with this character but i just could not for the life of me make her work, maybe i just suck at making self harm comps work because every time i try picking all the self harm characters i just get smoked
>>738204668quite enjoyable game i think, had a lot of fun with it
>>738211403There was a brown girl. I saw her in the screenshots.How is the brown girl?
>>738212449You need healers and effrctive card management to pilot her effectively.I had a bigger struggle making the twins work.
>>738207534Well i hope they will actually involve with time travel this time. Chrono Ark was mostly some matrix sim bullshit plotline, while i was hoping for time travel shenanigans like Young and Elder version of the same person being a selectable character ir having multiply endings due to time travel routes and butterfly effects
Very fun. But I ignored half the characters.
>>738204668should I buy the dlc bundle or what
>>738211403please don't be a gacha, don't end up like the guys behing Lobotomy Corp
>>738208743>>738205356>>738205035happo sir is that you? I know you have pics of her naked
>>738209471yes, it was very important
We can fight the Joker?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjN1Icb-rAA&list=PL8bfrlblwJunik0O0oR713Y9qiipG0Kqg
>>738212449well huz's harmful healing whip thing will always heal you when you get to 0 hp, so that pretty much nullifies all the damage you have piling up
>>738211453that guy is literally ilya
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>>738204668The thing this game deserves credit for is inventing its own mechanics to make the card game system actually feel novel to play.>Fixed cards that can be played every turn for increased energy>Fatigue vs. non-Fatigue cards>Card exchange as a charge mechanic>Terrible baseline card draw but card draw is its own part of your deck that you grow independently>Free card deletes once you go above min deck size>Takes the Death's Door mechanic from DD and actually builds on top of it.Those things do a lot to keep runs interesting even when most of the cards are relatively simple (and the relics/equipment are a total snoozefest)
>>738212142It was super messed up.
>>738204668Yes. It's good but not great. Looking forward to their next game.
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>>738212449momori huz hein charon self dmg comp rapes everything even bm4. Momori getting to -500+ hp is just hilarious
>story never reveals who the prisoner is I'm still mad
Is the first fight with Azar a scripted loss? He had ??? health and I lasted like 4 turns but then he wiped me.
>go to see how many hours I have played>this is the recent news postLucycar
>>738215491A lot of ppl say it's Narhan, because of his reaction when you show him that archive thingy but who knows
>>738204668very good
can i get a relatively non spoiler answer to thisi'm at what i assume is the final boss it's azar, there's flashy shit going everywhere and an anime insert song so it's gotta be pretty close to final if not final but i haven't gotten more than like two or three characters fully golded out is beating said boss a point of no return? can i still grind out those other social links at some point?i'm at the point where i'm considering throwing against him just cause i don't know if i should be winning just yetit IS a fucking great fight so i don't really mind
>>738215693He's not the final boss, and you have to get the bad ending before you get the good ending regardless. Just keep going.
Just started this game, I don't really play deckbuilder so I'm pretty bad. Any tips? I'm just using azar to spam his blades but don't really know how to use tanks or any other characters
>>738215761nice, thank youyou have spared me a lot of mental grief
godlike game
>>738215625i think so because lucy doesn't have the card that blocks his ultimate attack
>>738215910use miss chain and taunt with her, she's pretty easy to use
>>738215910Keep your deck small (six per character if running all 4 units). Levels don't matter too much for stats, they're really for getting extra cards, so you can focus on upgrading mana (7 is plenty) and card draw (dump everything else here) once you have a load out you're happy with. Look for synergies when team building, for example Hein likes taking self damage, so works well with someone like Huz who's heal procs when you hit death's door rather than healing immediately, so he can safely stay damaged without risking being killed. Ironheart sets up barriers than turns them into damage, but if you run someone else to set the barriers up for him he can use those too, so pair him with other units with barrier skills.
>>738215910https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2983523550teamcomps, card builds, etcbit outdated and i think a few spoilers use at your own risk
>>738212837Limbus is good for being practically LoR lite. Also sexy brown woman who might chop for some fauvinism art stuff.Bonus: Both Chrono Ark devs and Project Moon use Studio Eim for their BGM/OST.
>>738216840>Limbus is good for being practically LoR litelimbus is absolutely dogshit and nothing like LoR lol the only saving grace is the story.
>>738216897Which i coudn't get into because battles felt like more casual LoR system and even more automated and irrelevant
>>738216897Well yeah, instead of using deckbuilding mechanics your skills are limited to what character or E.G.O you use. Other than the gacha and its consequential mechanics it's pretty much the same.That, and the use of coins instead of dice to calculate damage and clashing. That's just another difference.Keep whining about gacha while buying gay moviegames from Sony, shitty poorfag subscriptions from Microsoft, Nintendo $90 fetus games or whatever slop you love to consume.>>738217153Yeah, exactly. The win rate button is not just a meme if you have OP IDs and good teambuilding. The only challenges are stuff like rush bosses, that roguelike mode in its extreme mode and probably some bosses with creative mechanics you can't unga boonga (even after reading).
>>738217452>Other than the gacha and its consequential mechanics it's pretty much the same.almost like saying that humans and dinosaurs both lived on earth so they are the same.the game has negative depth, it's just bigger number wins with no strategy, you pick the same named IDs and status effects and put them together, teambuilding my ass. at least in LoR you had to choose the cards you put in and manage light and card drawthe fact that you think the "gacha part" matters little and that you had to conclude your reply with a retarded strawman told me everything I needed to know
>>738217452>Keep whining about gacha while buying gay moviegames from Sony, shitty poorfag subscriptions from Microsoft, Nintendo $90 fetus games or whatever slop you love to consume.what an argument to use on someone who likes gameplay heavy indie games like chrono ark and lor
>>738217452>while buying gay moviegames from Sony, shitty poorfag subscriptions from Microsoft, Nintendo $90 fetus games or whatever slop you love to consume.Why is this always the argument when someone says they dont like gacha
>>738204668It's got some fun ideas like character decks and fixed actions, some stupid ones like classic rogue mystery scrolls, kind of an awkward balance of gameplay vs story for a roguelite where sometimes you just get like a full hour of cutscenes before you get to play again, but overall it's pretty good.
I don't know how, but I hope the hedgehog makes it into Deception Engine somehow.
any tips against the reaper?I about how his curse works, but he still outdamages my party that fucking cuntarghhhhgghhh
>>738216223>>738216436>>738216523will do, thanks friend
>>738204668I refuse to waste my computer on card games, I should be able to play this on my phone like balatro and slay the spire and monster train, etc.
>>738219843Isn't there a phone version of the game? No idea if it's any good though.
>>738219843What an interesting form of autism. This is a janky South Korean game that doesn't even have official steam deck support so good luck
>>738220008No.
>>738218218They always say they hate gacha while they keep supporting the most insane anti-consumer practices because of brand naming. That and they're always SEAniggers who didn't get lucky in their rolls and get salty, bluesky trannies or redditors, mostly the later two.Last time some anon said they hated gacha, he gloated how he spent his on some premium Xbox gamepass. I was close to say jeet but they congregate to Sony or Nintendo sometimes.>>738217848Look everybody, we got a hardcore gamer over here>>738217829I know that you are affirming what I just said and that your original deck builds most have stuff like smoke cards, index cards, maybe some liu with E.G.O Xiao? Probably a Red Mist and a Binah for easy mode. How original, now get out of here.
>>738213968Good but not great is how I would describe it as well.Main problems I had with it are:- too much pointless walking around, made worse by the fact that Lucy walks real slow- it's confusing in the beginning and the game doesn't do a great job of introducing its mechanics- runs take too long- doesn't really feel like a deckbuilder since each character has a very limited pool of cards, so it's more about combining characters and piloting them rather than finding synergies within the card pool itself
>>738220468>Lucy walks real slowThere is a run button.
>>738220795and you can teleport around, weird complaint
>>738204668I bought it but then refunded once I realized it didn't work with gamepad controls.
>>738220880>once I realized it didn't work with gamepad controlsI've seen this complaint often. Honestly I don't really get it. Because I struggle to fathom why you'd ever wish to play a cardgame with anything but a mouse to begin with. So I never have. That said. I read in the patch notes that they added and then kept refining gamepad controls. But again, I still can't imagine why you'd wish o use them. And I haven't used them myself so I can't vouch for the implementation.
>>738220880A long time ago, I'm guessing, since it got gamepad support a bit before the Switch version released.
>>738206702>mafia gameYou mean deception engine? Its still in development.
>>738222085No, he's talking about the danganronpa-lite segment that was cut around...Beta 0.40 I want to say?
>>738222085I assume by mafia game he means some kind of murder mystery (like werewolf or I guess the quintessential example nowadays would be amogus)
>>738222245Is that why they claimed very early on that their story was DG-inspired? wew
this game makes me feel like a mega brainlet. How do I avoid analysis paralysis as a newbie? just take my bumps and new runs?
>>738222359The final game is mostly similar to the early beta because they ultimately decided that wasn't a fitting storytelling method here. What I'm talking about was only was there for like two updates before being removed.There's still some remnants of that version that stuck around though like babby mode (Hope) and the fact that before that the plot was slightly different and was probably going to be more horror.
>>738222540>just take my bumps and new runs?That's what I did. Granted that I had already played plenty of other card games prior. Certain mechanics or character-gimmicks still resulted in some pretty humbling losses for me though.
>>738220468You can teleport. In options there's also setting that lets you skip going inside the treasure box buildings (lets you spend the key on the map). Dunno if that option makes other map travelling quicker.
>>738220468The game is about synergies. You just build those synergies with the team. Card draw is also super important.
>>738222245Ic. Idk much about the beta. Apparently there was lots of cut content.
>>738222540The biggest mechanic to understand in this game is the healing gauge and how to abuse it. On the baseline difficulty, you can be very aggressive in most encounters because damage doesn't count until the character gets hit again.Another generic thing to keep in mind is using your fixed abilities in order to save up cards for a combo. A lot of the offensive characters in this game are based around putting together one big turn where they hit for a truckload of damage.Otherwise, most characters have two main builds, and once you see their cards a few times the synergies will become obvious. I recommend playing a character repeatedly until you understand how they function, rather than trying an entirely new team each run.
>>738222540Also, make sure you read the tooltips for the boss mechanics. Most of them are designed to make you play around their otherwise very punishing gimmick, but they're not too bad once you take that into account.
>>738218542Using a mascot for like 1/3 of enemies while not going into the depth for the lore behind the Order or the Clowns was a reddit moment cringe. It feels like every enemy is just a throw away rando.
>>738215910Presel or whoever the priest girl was can easily carry every run with her gimmick
>>738223873Love her. Also the staff/bat design is beautiful.
>>738204668the only good korean gamedesigns are a bit on the gacga side but still tolerable10/10 kino boss fight right before the end
>>738220795>>738220841>>738222639She is still slow when "running" and you can only teleport to areas you explored. Walking around a generic randomly generated map adds nothing. It absolutely should just be a map you click on or something like that. Every other deckbuilder gets this right.I didn't know about the setting for skipping buildings. Thanks for that tip. Should be enabled by default though.>>738222693That's just what I said.
man FUCK momori
>>738221230Slay the Spire and Balatro are super comfy to play on a controller. I don't know why people act like that's a weird idea. Also I can play in bed or on the bus with my Steam Deck.
Lian is my favorite character but I simply cannot win with her.
>>738224645>Walking around a generic randomly generated map adds nothing.I suppose it could be done on a typical map layout with icons displayed from the start as well. But I do genuinely appreciate your freedom in what order to challenge (or skip) encounters in Chrono Ark. You can do each zone in very unlinear fashions even though they're layered in a partially linear way. I also found it moderately satisfying to spot and recognize where the secrets might have been hiding with the scrolls.
>>738204668I played it years ago when it was in early access because it looked interesting after watching northernlion play it but I only ended up doing a couple runs and never beating it because I sucked at it
>>738222540A small clarifying tip>purple status is always damage over time statuses>red status are stat debuffs>yellow status are stuns and attack prio aka taunt status. Yellow is kind of the catch all for whatever remains
I tried to get into the story, but I was really unable to care.
>>738223873Miss chain is busted for free. High health, easy innate skill to resist death while drawing aggro, good dot skills, and fire ground.Pressel is best character in the game with the rare that lets you prophecize on every exchange. That's an absurd level of deck manipulation. The other rare that spawns an overheal every turn is a significant downgrade in comparison. Full damage pressel is not a meme if you commit to it. The bat archetype does work extremely well and can entirely replace a dps character.
>>738225183Honestly she isn't that great as far as tanks go. Actually, I can't think of a worse tank now that I'm going through them in my head.
>>738226103Yeah I never cared for the story either and it is still my favorite deck builder. The music though does deserve praise.
>>738205035Only if you post builds.
>>738226267Yeah but dropping down on faggots after a parry feels so fucking good
>>738226342Battle Lucy, Leryn, Miss Chain, and Ironheart is the GOAT and canon team.
>>738213093What happens when you lie to a loli and give her loops of suffering until she's an empty shell?
>>738215652How would a roguelike racer function?
>>738215652Nice itasha
>>738225486>I do genuinely appreciate your freedom in what order to challenge (or skip) encounters in Chrono Ark. You can do each zone in very unlinear fashions even though they're layered in a partially linear way.I imagine that's the reason it is how it is, but that is totally doable with a map too.
>>738204668Pretty good, but I wish characters had more cards. Equipment and events also feel very undercooked. Story needed a bit more to it; what's there is quite nice but I'm left with questions I don't think I was meant to have.Still enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would.
>>738226535Many fall in the face of chaos... but not this one! Not today!
>>738226987Our hero.
>>738205035>>738205356>>738208743>>738209471That's a child
>>738227319It's okay, she spent five thousand years in a simulation getting raped over and over
Silverstein is based, simple as
>>738220420You are so fucking brown it's radiating in your post.
>Think i got good enough at the game not even the bullshit red area enemies face me anymore>Play in hard mode>Get shit stomped>Not even using blood mist modifiers
>>738227528He's not brown anon. He's just retarded. If he were brown I'd sense it with my own brownness.
>>738227543>the bullshit red areaThat place was fun. But a difficulty-spike for sure. But very fun.
>>738227319out of 10
>>738227528Is dohna dohna a good game?
>>738227754It's a good game to play with one hand with an okay story, I didn't like it that much.Art and music is great tho
>>738227754No it's pretty lackluster, best girl gets ntr'd in her true ending. Just look up the H scenes and save yourself like 30 hours. The music is pretty gas though,
>>738227319A child of what?
so, what the hell are you supposed to do against the actual final boss?Everythings fine at the start just alternate between whos getting hit with the waves and push damage for the mcguffins but then when it starts to delete your party the fuck you do?Losing the healer or the tank gets you instantly wiped cus they can't soak all the damage alone and losing the DPS well- you're doing no damage now.
>>738227937Your build should always have 2 dps for this exact reason. You simply sac one of the two. You never ever ever sac the tank. You quite literally need just pure numbers of hp to absorb an eradicate. 2 dps and 1 healer at full health sometimes fail to even reach the 100 health threshold. Sometimes you can afford to sac the healer and full dps race, but you have to be very confident in your path forward and using shenanigans like energy drinks.
>>738227894Lucy must be a futa because she inherited her dad's continent-sized balls. Also why does Lucy look literally nothing like Clyne, anyway? Got all her mom's genes? I only played v1.20 or something and I feel like 90% of Lucy's backstory prior to the loops was cut out.
What was the deal with the soundtrack never getting released?
>>738227754I played just a bit and found the combat and sim parts pretty bad, but I like the characters and want to pick it up again to finish story.
>>738227754>Dumbed down Darkest Dungeon>NTRshitLegit just fap to the loli on the boorus and call it a day
>>738228607Too hot for Spotifyhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQvC-clHxiU
>>738226267i think narhan is pretty bad as well
I find the game pretty accessible overall but I never go fight the godu or whoever is that guy with dual pistols who just fucks your shit up
Clyne kinda deserved everything desu. Designing things that way served no purpose.
>>738211687It helps that the simulation thing isn't the actual twist. It's apparent from the start after all.
>>738225183Her best cards are the crit-related ones and any 1 mana or less parry because her parries give an extra mana. She's definitely not topping the tier list but she's viable. Also she has that 1-mana card that gives her like 4 counterattacks or something, that this is really good, it's been a while since I last played though.
>>738228561>why child doesn't look like her fatherinb4 Wife boyfriend copypasta
>>738204668I unironically like it more than Slay the Spire. It's one of the few games I've platinumed and I still don't feel like I hit the skill ceiling. Great time over all. Silverstien is my crutch.>>738211403Dumping Fat Loads in Medici
>>738212837There's no way this would be gacha man. ...... right?
Remember to download the voice mod before playing.
>>738229478how goofy is it?
>>738228789For me, it's White Graveyardhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y9j8pDELMd4
>>738227878>>738228784>Hating NTRLMAO filtered AS HELL, imagine being mad about some cuckshit or worse - inserting as the cuck. NTR is popular for a reason
>>738229649>it's popular so it's good!
>>738229501No idea, never played with Eng Dub. Did play with jap voice however, good enough for me despite no male voice.
I just finished it on Switch last weekthe story ended up feeling pretty great despite some misgivings I had earlier onPerformance was not great and I crashed twice, losing a run once. The second crash happened at the end of the true credits, which was hilarious, but thankfully the save loaded and I didn't have to redo the run.>>738228607https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1u-UFAC4ADWVmLT5sCsEniin8Ko9N4u5VProbably because it's one of those indie projects that got its music from multiple different sources
Are the DLC worth it? It seems there's a deck builder sale going on right now. And I don't mean the skins, the content.
>>738228789>sends everyone to death's door>doesn't do anything else the rest of the fight except summon a little drummer dude>dies after getting smacked once??????
>>738230216Ehhhh, i bought them to support the devs but i cannot in good faith recommend it for the actual content.>1 boss (so 2 for both dlcs) and a few new cards
>>738230216If you're a cunnyphile who wants to stare at Lucy's armpit every run, go ahead and grab the beach DLC. The casino DLC is far more situational. Honestly, the game needs more story-themed DLC that gives new secret side areas and re-adds backstory from early access.
>>738230538My dude will finish reloading... eventually...
>>738229824Thanks anon
>>738204668Pretty good.Would've liked there to be less timeskips.tfw can't protect Lucy's smile.
>destroys every annoying boss gimmichow does this science woman do this?
>>738230216if you love charon get the beach DLC. and it has some good relics and Lucy skills. about casino DLC, you can get Lucy starting skill Showdown which I think most fun and strong.
2 tanks y/n?
You DID beat your first run, right?
>>738233395Yes, twice.Not like you get a bad team lineup anyway
>Win my first run and get cockblocked by the fucking cockatoo >>738233395Yeah, that.
>>738231994Why not?
>>738231994If you're running twins, all your damage and healing are accounted for, so I bring two tanks with them.
>>738233395I beat my second run but the witch 100% raped my face my first try.
>normal is too easy>expert is too hardfug
The one character I despised playing was that vodka guy with the lightning + whatever sword. Just obnoxious to use compared to everyone elseMeanwhile, there's nothing more fun than Huz / Charon / Momori
>>738235556Lucy's strong for a 10-year old. Fucking metal as fuck to kill someone with their own sword.
We are going to Alice!
>>738204668I've beat the true end fight probably two dozen times on expert and still have an incomplete understanding of how death's door works in this game.
>>738236029In order to actually die, you need to be killed. Being at negative HP means nothing so long as you do not die.
>>738204668Azar is cool and I love him.
>>738236029Having no HP and all healing meter makes you a dead boy the next time you take unshielded damage
>>738212837gacha version of chrono ark already exists for a half a year now and these devs definatly can't compete with them on that front
>>738236653Azar is a little bitch who literally groomed a child just so she would ram her long, thick blade hilt-deep inside him.
>>738227754not really it's pretty tho
>>738218218its the only rung on the ladder lower than gacha
>>738237174>literally groomed a childmaybe she shouldn't be so groomable. "Oh, look at me, I'm a 12 year old girl with no agency or memory, please don't influence me sexually and psychologically."
>>738236653Stop posting azar.
>>738237920is she wrong?
>>738239426she did nothing wrong
>>738237115>soulless megacorp gachafies your game>internal drama where the CEO forces out the famous writer they hired>adds a self-insert that cucks the player character>game only subsists now on ever larger breastsI think they would do it better, but it's probably more trouble than it's worth
>>738228883Narhan is pretty bad yeah, but he has a ton of yellow status so there is combo potential with relics and certain characters. Also intent is very useful and weirdly the few times I've used him he outputs more damage than you would expect.
>>738215625https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXDxD029xh0can kinda beat it but it's still a loss in the cutscene
>>738222540Just basic understanding how each character works.Hein is a high attack damage deal but has horrible accuracy, but a lot of his abilities have perfect hit rate on an enemy with weakness debuff. Hein himself can inflict weakness but if you have another character that can do it frees him up to do big damage.Most characters even though classified as Tank, Support, Damage can fulfill a different role based on what random investigators you roll and cards you obtain. Ironheart is classified as a Tank but can shit out huge damage if build him like one. Huz can be a healer or weakness debuffer. Charon can be a damage over time attacker or land big nukes.There are no bad investigators except Phoenix who is suppose to be a joke character with an insane passive. I put like 90 hours into the game and I still don't know how Ilya works, but he's one of the last unlocks anyways.
>>738239426How does an abused hacker girl become like pheniox?
>>738237853I like how Azar intentionally set up the loop so that he'd find Lucy unconscious and alone in the forest and he'd have to carry her to her bedroom. There's no way he hasn't molested her for thousands of loops. No one would ever know.
>>738222540Just take Azar with you. You can't go wrong with him around to help.
>>738240954>No one would ever know.Lucy would once she regained her memories. She'd feel every instance all at once.
>>738240073Ilya is a monster if you can feed his engine (forced discard). Leryn works well.
>>738240630>set physical avatar to dumb bird despite the fact you're supposed to be simulating reality for thousands of years in a VR environment where your digital avatar is linked to your physical avatar for logistic and diagnoatic purposes
>>738227127Wrong picThe hero is obviously the gamer
>>738241018No wonder why Azar's obsessed with grooming her. Lucy's luterally built different, like an unbreakable onahole.
>>738227528>>738227575You don't even play videogames, otherwise you would reply with something beyond ad-hominems. Then again, you must be so browns is no surprise the first response is to just insult and walk away like a bitch.
>>738239537I thought CZN was for butt enjoyers since that's the combat POV outside of the card with a cutscene.
>>738241018That's hot. Imagine the feeling of being deflowered thousands of times and pumped full of cum hitting her all at once.
>>738241154Even Clyne was fine with her being an exception here. She's dead the moment things end anyway.
>>738240630Brilliant hacker types tend to fuck up now and then, it is what it is
Story based cardbattle rogulites usually suck because they focus on story first and their "game" part sucks.This is the only one that I can respect for being actually fun to play.
>>738241398Azar must be really small (because he's a dumb gamer) if the shock of all the times he diddled her didn't even phase her all that much. No wonder why he Kirito-modes so hard.
>>738241605Azar probably got bored of molesting her after a hundred or so loops
>>738241640If Lucy's subconscious and muscle memory are affected by the loops slowly but surely, then Azar's molestation would make her sluttier and increase her desire for sex. Except she's still an emotionless husk whilst having these cravings she doesn't fully understand.
Who is the most annoying boss and why is it this cunt?
>>738241757She probably didn't enjoy it. Azar must be terrible at it.
>>738241757Lucy's an innocent slut who still has room in her heart to forgive even someone like Azar for sticking her pendant up her butt then accidentally killing her by ripping it out while yelling>LET IT RIP100% true and canon loop btw.
>>738241801This dude for me.
>>738241801Inquisitor is so fucking awful I actively refuse to ever help Johan in his autism quest to finish his fucked up character arc.
>>738241880Beyblade buttsex is always canon after all.
>>738241801The true true true final boss. Fuck the party murdeleting gimmick. I had to replay that fight like 50 times.
>>738241967I swear, Azar's such a fun asshole to hate Having played through what I assume is 80% of the game, I still don't think I understand why exactly he hated Clyne in the first place. It turns out to be misplaced anger toward himself (God) for making him a literal Demiurge doomed. What happened to Azar's real-life girlfriend anyway? Did she get erased during the Master Program selection?
>>738242146All that gets spelled out pretty clearly don't worry. Depending on what side scenes you've got you could probably figure a few good reasons why he hates Clyne enough to do that though.The only thing that doesn't get properly addressed is who the original traitor is.
>>738242505It's implied to be Narhan isn't it?
>>738204848wtf anon how did you make this post right after I had this exact thought after seeing this thread?
>>738242146>What happened to Azar's real-life girlfriend anyway?Without spoiling I can tell you that it's some real peak stuff at least.
>>738242552Mostly via process of elimination, which doesn't really explain much.
>>738241893I kind of really like how the game lines up the cards you've played on the side like that. It's cool. I like it. More games should do that.
>>738243038That's not the cards you've played, that's your hand.
>>738240073You can use Ilya with leryn mainly. Ilya provides members his item to discard a card, but I think making a pair with leryn is a most reasonable choice.>>738241801mfw forgetting basic attack and face this bitch
>>738239426Why is this NEET through living example attacking my NEET life? I'll have to be better... unironically...
>>738241963>Count goes down even while using swiftness actions and Lucy skillsWHAT THE FUCK WERE THEY THINKING
>>738241963about Johan quest, beating this boss means his quest is over? Alice didn't come back even by beating this guy. Do I need to do other things?
>>738243154Just give up and join the permanent hikkineet club.
I read Japanese for shit but it was apparently spotlighted in Famitsu this weekend, as an "indie pick". https://www.famitsu.com/article/202605/73612>『クロノアーク』「記憶を消してもう一度遊びたい」ストーリーも高く評価される高難度デッキ構築型ローグライクRPG【とっておきインディー】googletranslate: >Chronoark: A highly-praised, challenging deck-building roguelike RPG with a story that makes players say, "I want to erase my memory and play it again." [Indie Picks]That's cool.
>>738243360Alice isn't real________________________________________________
>>738243430I really should make a point to read Japanese media news sites more often, they seem to be actual journalism more often than the kusoshit in the western hemisphere
>>738243463Oh it seems I need to make forward his friendship token
>>738243035why is there a thinly-veiled rape card in my RPG?
>>738243430>I read JapaneseI can't read*
>>738243463LIAR.
>>738244334I know, Psycho Mantis.
>>738205363>you have multiple party members instead of just one character at a timeI super love this aspect of the game.
>>738242707>>738242146wait azar has a girlfriend? Is it selena? I don't remember him mentioning that
>>738243881not rape just correction
What are the best mods? The whole workshop is in chinese so I have no clue.
>>738242552Nah its Judas the name and dialog is dead give away. Bit lame but i guess they released the boss just to close that plot thread.
what does she mean
>>738224262>seemingly lovely woman>actually a zealot>showing her the truth of the world doesn't fix her or even make her reflect>doesn't make her worse>she just stays as she isFucked-up, but I appreciate the variance in how characters react to the revelation.
>>738246314There's an alternative act, I believe, Fishing village? There's skin mods, a mod that lets Chiyo be playable as herself, and one that lets you use Lucy as a fighter whenever you want.
>>738246314all the chinese expansion mods are fucking terrible (desolate fishing village and others)all the AI nude mods are goatedSome other great ones are skill predict plus., enchantedark which makes the game harder, relic notification, slightly better ark, some othersI'm torn on all the new characters, they are not very balanced and the base game already provides plenty of choices
>>738246314>>738246938I havent tried much. But i agree most characters are bit broken. The characters i like are Tiamat ans Urunhilda. Urunhilda can be really broken, but she gives you a completely new playstyle that i actually enjoyed a lot (relic farming).Casino lucy in leotard is my only other mod lol. I wish there was more quality english mods, but what i've seen the modding tools for this game seem like garbage.
>Chrono Ark thread getting to 300 postsWhat parallel world is this? None of the previous ones even reached 100.
>>738204668I LOVED Chrono Ark. It's amazing how it manages to fuse a VN to a blobber and to a roguelike deckbuilder. The gameplay, sound effects - everything works super well.My only criticism - and for me it's a very big one that stops it from being truly great - is that the character designs are so fucking boring. It's a rare case of "poor concept, good execution". The illustrators did a great job, but look at what most of the female characters look like. Oh wow a mesugaki an E girl with a hammer. Oh wow an E girl NEET with a generic real-life hoodie and a half-baked rabbit theme. It's so boring and just goon bait. The Sukeban priestess theme and schoolboy genius are basically the only cool concepts. I feel like the player characters are just so half baked. Besides that, though, it's a great game.
>>738247339yeah tiamat is okay, a bit on the op sideUrunhilda is broken and I don't like her nsfw animations at all, very cheap looking. Plus having to progressively use the same card 3 times to get more effects is kinda tedious.
>>738247710>look at what most of the female characters look like. Oh wow a mesugaki an E girl with a hammerI do wish more of the Investigators shared a similar design philosophy as Hein and Lian.Though, I do think Momori being so radically ill-fitting is intentional because for one, she's actively rebelling against Lian. Even then, all the girls could do with at least some gauntlets or chestplates and stuff, Lucy too. Wouldn't want to see her cute little knees getting scraped (I do). I think Lucy would look really cute hiding behind a shield during regular play.
>>738248256If momori was the only investigator that looked like that then I wouldn't mind much, but I just think they're mostly half-baked. Huz looks so boring. None of them have a particularly interesting concept or backstory, nor is this made up for by a cool design. I don't really get the appeal of Lian, either, to be honest. She's just a generic warrior girl, like how ironheart is a generic knight. It sucks that only a handful of characters ever even got alternate skins.For my money, the best designed characters are Joey, Pressel and Narhan.
You guys excited for the sequel?
>>738241372>PMtrannyOf fucking course lmao
>>738248620Is it actually a sequel? I got the feeling that it was a similar game but entirely different world/premise, just with fan/dev favourite Momori returning (albeit as an AU version).Chrono Ark had a really tight storyline with only one glaring plot thread that didn't get closed (traitor's identity). I don't know if they could make a sequel work without accidentally retroactively worsening the original.
>>738248620Not sure. It seems like it doesnt have timeline mechanics anymore, and has permanent progression. I will try it out for sure, considering the team has proven themselves once already.
>>738248839jesus, look at how fat that fucking ass isi want her to sit on my face and suffocate me to death
>>738248736They are using wording in their news posts that strongly insinuate it being a sequel, rather than just a followup>We are currently revealing character illustrations for Chrono Ark's sequel, Deception Engine, sequentially on X and Bilibili. If you are interested, please check them out!but it may be a translation thing so eh. I'm still looking forward to it
>in the sequel we need to face against charon who becomes the CEO as capitalism representative I'm not ready for that...
>>738224656pure sex
>>738247339I saw some kind of translation injector for converting chinese mods to english but i have no idea how garbage it is.
>>738224656Why is she so mad?
What is the meta-progression like in this one? Just unlocks for runs or persistent upgrades?
>>738253093She's waiting for someone who can satisfy her
>>738253185You progress the story. Unlock characters that can appear as recruits for future runs. And unlock access to the true ending.Giving gifts to allies at the campsite unlocks a higher relationship and their story, which gives an additional choice when presented level up rewards, but thats the only tangible increase in power compared to your first run.
>>738204668it was alrighti finished it like 1 year ago and i forgot how to play now. Couldnt even reach the final boss now.
>>738204668They haven't updated it in a year, it's gigadead
>>738253610>No updates = deadFound the gachatard
>>738253510I prefer it when progression is side-grades and such instead of direct static power increase, but that sounds tolerable enough.
>>738253705I forgot there is also a shop that uses coins you collect run over run for playing. They just add more things into the card and relic pool.The variety offered by mixing different party comps together was enough to engage me for a while.
Onii-chan
>>738248620Admittedly I knew nothing about it before this thread
>>738254019That's not our Lucy, her eyes aren't even close to being dead.
Any nude mods?
>>738248620im sure its a new game and not a sequel
>>738254212I fixed her
>pain sharing from blood mist>momori is now fucking invinciblegg ez
How big is too big?
>>738228883Narhan is made or broken depending on whether you get his stun cards. I've cucked bosses super hard by having his mind crush card with the cool cg in his gambler skin that I forget the name of. Being able to say no you don't get to act this turn is really strong.
>>738243430>I want to erase my memory and play it againVery funny choice of words.
>>738254294it's 100% a sequelno idea how much time after chrono ark though
>>738254576those breasts were grown on the blood of thousands
>>738254294>>738254986How would it being a sequel make sense? Chrono Ark world was modern, maybe a bit sci-fi. How do you regress from that to steampunk?
Speaking of the story I was surprised they didn't invent anime-bullshit to get them out of the virtual reality without dying. I think it's basically the same as SOMA's plot except hopepilled which makes it better imo. Really nice conclusion
>>738255036>How would it being a sequel make sense?Wut? Have you completed the game and read the story?
>>738255109Yes. Please explain how the world goes from modernish sci-fi land to steampunk.
>>738255170Virtual -> Real lifeI have absolutely no idea what could happen though, if it's like Chrono Ark, which basically tells you more or less the plot of the game, DECEPTION Engine sounds like some schizokino shit
braaaaaaaaaaaaap
>>738247415Has a CA thread ever gone on for this long?
>>738255643Some have hit bump limit, but those were closer to the 1.0 release.I did find it amusing how that one gacha card game (cant remember name) had threads that got hijacked into Chrono Ark threads.
>>738255748That's pretty neat. What do you like about Chrono Ark? I just got a deck and I'm looking for some comfy games to play on it.
>>738255036>>738255170Technological regression due to the loss of most people. There's a reason the ark initially set the world as a medievalish era village. The plan was for people in the ark to learn how to recover from a complete loss of technology. That was of course all ruined by the traitor. It's not completely hopeless of course because the ark staff was stacked with talented people but it's still going to be rough going for a while.
>>738248839Again, the character designs are looking pretty uninspired ngl
>>738255748The gachafags fear the Chrono chads
>>738255879I don't know how much time passed but the fact that they're already back to steampunk-like technology is kinda impressive lol
For me it's Eria
Could someone please re-explain the story for me? It's been so fucking long that I played it that I don't really remember.Basically, there's a VR ark that people went into. Someone betrayed the system and fucked everything up in some way. Azar made it into some kinda RPG and fucked with people's memories and then made the bioengineered genius girl into a phoenix, the CEO guy into the final bad guy and the little girl who is his daughter (Lucy) into a hero tasked with killing him, looping over and over. Somehow she realizes this and kills azar, resets the system, frees everyone but the VR versions of everyone stay stuck in the Ark forever or something?
This game was cool, any similar deck builders for story or hot girls?
>>738255748CZNwhich copied STS/Chrono Ark to begin with
>>738256245StS plays nothing like Chrono Ark outside of the very surface level of "there are cards".The fact that CA explored its own systems regarding hand management makes it standout among the crowd of Dominion clones.
>>738256401StS is basically the father of card roguelikes...Chrono Ark is 100x better though
>>738207646I'd love an actual JRPG with deckbuilder mechanics, but it'd be hard to do it as a roguelike due to the difficulty in managing your builds. I reckon a way it could work is that "dungeons" or general combat areas force you to start them from the same baseline every time you attempt them and then your various upgrades that you get are sometimes permanent or influence your dungeon runs through drops, constant passive, some active effects etc (as well as just unlocking different things - perhaps mutually exclusively).It could be a really fun concept.
>>738256603Baten Kaitos?
>>738256207>any similar deck builders for story or hot girls?Not a deckbuilder but Astlibra, somehow. Only difference is the time loops are real.They both also have a GOAT OST.https://youtu.be/BBKGgtwvlIE?si=2iFYyKr_KOcmLMIL
it's genuinely absurd how hot Lucy is
>>738256791This is really interesting, thanks anon. Seemed ahead of its time.
>>738256983Welcome, anon. It's on sale right now.
>>738253610just like 99.9% of games by your definition
>>738253610actually there was a qol update last month
>>738256940>finally makes it to the real world>gets kidnapped by an anon almost immediatelyI wanna see the erotic look of despair on her face when she realizes she's nowhere near as strong or agile as she was in the virtual world. No way she could>pshhhh, nothin personnel ojisanAnd stab ME in the back.
>>738256603>>738256983Out of non-JRPG examples, there are also the 1997 Magic the Gathering RPG, and Etherlords I and II - though they are more of deck construction than deckbuilding games.
>>738256603>JRPG with deckbuilder mechanicsChain of Memories?
>>738256603Library of Ruina?
>>738256603>>738257246Don't forget the GOAT
>>738255109not him but having cryostasis is literally sci fi tier of technology. You can conquer planets with it.Regression to steampunk doesnt really make any sense.
>>738254719Narhan carried me so hard when I was struggling against some of the final story bosses, his stuns are absolutely game winning. Sure he might have less synergy in certain teams like self-harm but I still rank him as one of the best tanks in my opinion.
>>738256206yeah thats basically itthe VR system is designed so that they can train people to do productive shit but yada yada betrayal
>>738257637>Regression to steampunk doesnt really make any sense.They literally rebuilt a cryosystem in the VR setting in like, a decade or something. The people of the Ark are literal redstone autists.
>>738257637do you think that if a bunch of people went back to the middle ages they would be able to bring our technology there?
Where are you looking, anon?
>>738257846But it's not like one person. It's like 500~ of humanities best and brightest. And also they still have a research base with a bunch of high-tech shit. And there are innumerable other people in cryosleep that they can wake up for help. And all many of those people have intact bunkers/technology to work with.
>>738257846even basic medical technology like being sterile will push the tech by around 200-300 years you know.Most modern basic human knowledge will push things fast.
>>738257637>>738258008You're not really understanding the scale of what happened.The only ones guaranteed to survive were those in the ark. Once the world thawed they have about a week at best to awaken as many people as possible from the flawed cryo facilities. I don't remember if it was ever stated how many people were in each facility but it's no exaggeration to say that 99% of the world died. Through sheer lack of manpower they would strugle to maintain anything that requires any kind of production line at all.
I still haven't unlocked Phoenix, the red area filters me.
>>738258478If it makes you feel any better Pheonix is utter rancid dogshit and by far the worst character in the game.
>>738258478>he's scared of cowboysbtw its vital to get the true ending
>>738258529she has some broken combos and is fun to play albeit
I'll have to save this thread for after I finish the game.Hopefully the archives will still be up in 10 years time.
I am thinking about getting it considering it's on discount right now. I remember pirating it few years ago and ragequitting because I ended my turn by accident and lost a winnable fight against >>738241893 pic rel boss and never felt like picking up again after my shameful display kek
>>738258529Phoenix with twins spamming rider kick is fun though.
I pirated it and it held my attention for like 12 runs. Mechanics are neat but the UI isn't that great. Characters didn't hold my interest. Also I'm not a fan of paid dlc that adds better than vanilla content from the get-go.
>>738259309Buy it to support the dev, anon. Pirate AAAslop but support indies that do a good job.
>>738258529The great skill check
momori gaming
>>738257043Is the remaster any good? I'm very tempted to get it. But I saw some threads complain about it when it was new. Then again anons have a tendency to complain no matter what. But half the time they complain about real things.
>>738261360Yes it's good. It's one of the few remasters I approve of.
>>738258339The plot is retarded. They didn't have a week, the plot just demanded that if you weren't in the ark you never were getting out of cryo. There are multiple instances of idiot writing in this game. There's no reason for Clyne to not keep the ark running after reupload. Literally zero reason not to keep the tomagachis around still, hell we even see the delete command go through after the reupload command. I could go on and on about how shit the plot of this game is and the fact it has defenders is a scathing indictment of weeb plot standards and sensibilities. If you think chiyo is a well written character then never talk to me again.This is still my favorite deck builder in spite of the retarded narrative. The gameplay is that good.
>>738261156Fuck twitter. But this post in reply to Momori's Deception Engine character-reveal got a laugh out of me.
>>738258543The only bullshit cowboy is the sniper cunt. You run into a party with a sniper in it you're best off restarting.
>>738260000Checked, but since I don't wish to to continue playing I will not be purchasing
>>738261726>Literally zero reason not to keep the tomagachis around stillWell. For one it'd be extremely unsettling for any of the people involved if they learned of how all their memories from their time in the ark were in fact digitally cloned personas that are still trapped inside of the simulation. And. It was also implied to be rather illegal. It's strongly implied that if word ever got out of what the true nature of what the ark was, even in a scenario where the ark did what it was supposed to do and saved humanity, it'd massively screw over the entire company and all people involved in the project. But aside from that. They could have kept the simulation running. But none were supposed to even know.
>>738261726I like to imagine once they all get out of the Ark, Lucy's sitting happily in a cave as a caveloli who recently unga bunga'd a pig all by herself.
>>738261726Clyne didn't keep it running because he's an autistic shit. It was probably a waste of resources and relying on the naturally low temperatures just like the cryogenics were.There were certainly some issues with the abandoned traitor plotline and things like Haru that got cut but shoved in at the last second anyway, but the core story they settled on was pretty good and logical.
>>738261726Oh, and I'm sure the upload at the end was all automated, planned in advance when the Ark was developed. Clyne didn't trust himself either so he wouldn't have allowed anyone the opportunity to modify that procedure.
>>738255904I suppose I might see where you're coming from. Maybe. But I personally really like the character designs shown so far. But the game appears to be centred around a completely dfferent, and possibly narrower colour palette. But I feel like it uses the style really well.
>>738261726Mate you skipped most the story apparently.A major plot point is that they didn't actually have the ability to sustain the cryo chambers. They could freeze you initially but they didn't have the power to last through the entire crisis and had to use the external temperatures to keep you frozen. Since there was no method of waking you up, as soon as the world started unfreezing you would stop being in cryostasis and your bodies needs will return with no one capable of tending to them. This revelation was the cause of the riots and attacks, with a lot of people choosing to try to survive outside of cryo instead. That's also why they had to leave right then and there in the ending, if they didn't, everyone would die with noone to wake them up. As for the deletion, it was a requirement to sell the lie that your conciousness was transferred into the virtual world. That you are the same person before and after, instead of it being a clone that is permanently stuck in the virtual world. Was it a smart idea? The game almost universally says no. But it was what Clyne decided on and it was irreversible.
>>738204668Is this a good character design?
>>738262143So unsettling they built a monument to the tomagachis>>738262318A waste of resources after the completion of the project? When humanity has to rebuild from the stone age anyways with some salvage? It's just running a server which power gen would be their first priority. Hell it would be a post thaw source of motivation to get power gen up and running asap to return the favor to "save" the tomagachis. But even then the data would just be chilling until power was restored.>>738262627There's zero pressure for Clyne to reveal anything about the digital cloning. It's a non issue because no one knows about it. The people that do end up knowing about it fuck everything up from the inside because of his retarded delete decision whereas a continuity decision removes the entire consequences of the whole game. It's a contrived idiot plot. Same with the cryo chamber set up. If the temps outside got too hot to maintain cryo you could easily design your fucking system around that as a feature not a fatal flaw. Minimal power draw when shit is cold and gradually power up as it warms up until deactivating entirely when temps are survivable. Zero gay ark project even needed. None of this stands up to even the slightest scrutiny.But who even gives a shit about the messy scenario writing when you have a character like chiyo. Holy shit dude. To call this amateur writing is an insult to even shit like dragon's age veilguard.
>>738263304Is there some kind of joke that you mangle tamagochi or you honestly just forgot the correct word?
>>738263604Is this your best rebuttal? Minor spelling mistake on a fucking nonsense word?I love this game. I have over 300 hours in this game. I shill it to every single person irl who has the slightest interest in deck builders. The story is an embarrassment. I have zero hopes for the story in deception engine too because of it.
>>738263780I'm just curious. I'm not arguing with you.
>>738263304>If the temps outside got too hot to maintain cryo you could easily design your fucking system around that as a feature not a fatal flaw. Minimal power draw when shit is cold and gradually power up as it warms up until deactivating entirely when temps are survivableAgain, you skipped the entire story. They did that. It was a completely intended design choice from the beginning to use the external temp to sustain the stasis and enter a reserve power state during the crisis to maintain the ability to wake people from cyro after it was over. It still wasn't enough. Even on reserve power mode it could only last for so long before it completely shuts down and it was projected that this wouldn't be enough time for the world to thaw. That's the entire reason the ark was created. There was no perfect solution, they didn't have enough time. They did what they could to allow as many to be saved as they could with what little they could do.
>>738263780Also it's not a nonsense word. You know it meant something and k know it meant something.
>>738263304>So unsettling they built a monument to the tomagachisI mean. Yeah. It's a "remember the fallen tribute". It is kind of scarring, yeah. They weren't supposed to aware of it at all.
>>738263089Clyne's designer baby daughterwife. Not gonna lie I popped a boner when Azar was holding her arm.
>>738263089Yeah.
>>738256206>>738257742The VR system explicitly creates copies of the individuals in cyrosleep, with the intent of giving the real life versions the memories of their avatars when it's time to wake up. It is also intentionally designed to delete the avatars once this occurs. Clyne did not inform anyone that the whole plan effectively involves creating and ultimately murdering clones.The intention was of course to make sure everyone was better prepared for rebuilding from scratch. The Ark people would also be essential in releasing everyone else from their cyropods, which did not have any kind of automatic release function.The true ending is everyone accepting making that sacrifice for both their other selves and the rest of the world.
>>738263304>When humanity has to rebuild from the stone age anyways with some salvage? It's just running a server which power gen would be their first priority.That's exactly why someone like Clyne would think it's a waste. He already deleted his own replicas repeatedly in the course of testing, he doesn't care. It's a very heavy virtual reality and was probably using the ice age as its own heat sink.All fiction is contrived, there's really nothing offensive outside the cut content and maybe the bit about the memory potion. You're bullshitting me if you think sewage like DA is better.
>>738264210>Spoiler ImageThat scene punched me in the gut.
>>738263875And yet somehow they had the requisite power to cryo preserve everyone in the ark itself AND run a 24/7 simulation server the entire time. Do you know how much extra power that would consume? The power excuse falls flat because clearly there was enough power to sustain the Ark. Even if they lie to the masses and produce dummy chambers with not enough power gen to make it through, they clearly possessed the means to create at least one instance that had the requisite power and wouldn't need to rely on a contrived shutdown mechanism. There is no reason that more facilities with enough requisite power couldn't have been made. Sure, not at scale to preserve all of humanity, but at least in the millions.The ark should have been a uniquely experimental solution and a contingency plan on retaining memory/mental sharpness in the unforeseen circumstances that extended pure cryo with no mental stimulation ended up with failed thawed products. Rich fuckers in bunkers should have had an easy foolproof dethaw based purely on temperature sensors. Again the existence of the ark maintaining requisite power undermines the premise. It's an idiot plot.
>>738264210How much power does an SSD consume anon? It's sitting there in the dead server consuming what power?
>>738264484Keeping them dead in storage for an indefinite amount of time until civilization reaches a level that can casually run them in the background and hoping nobody forgets and overwrites it with porn in the meanwhile, that's even weirderI'm telling you, Clyne would never approve of shit like that. He is a genuine autist, Azar was right.
>>738264349>Rich fuckers in bunkers should have had an easy foolproof dethaw based purely on temperature sensorsNTA but they address this in the story. The temperature sensor based cryopods are flawed because they detect a fluctuation in temperature and deactivate. But those fluctuations aren't necessarily the world permanently getting warmer, the temperatures quickly drop again and everybody who was let out dies.
>>738264668His mistake was not gradually informing people in a controlled manner. No one likes the situation but they are able to accept it in the end. Azar learning about it in the worst possible way ensured he would turn against Clyne.Of course the whole plot kind of relied on him fucking up in this way, and it is a fuck up consistent with his character.
I think chronoshift's story pale's in comparison to Limbus'. Sorry cros
>>738264349>to cryo preserve everyone in the ark itselfThey are using the same system as everyone else. If they don't leave the ark their real bodies die. Exiting the ark was the wakeup trigger that other facilities lacked, that's why they had to wait so long to meet the master. They had to wait until the conditions outside were good enough to terminate the program or everyone would die. This is why Clyne was content to sit there dying over and over again to his daughter. All for the sake of the small exit window.
>>738264723This is again a cop out. You design around the fluctuations and don't dethaw instantly which is the lynch pin for that plot contrivance. The billionaire wouldn't need to run a full dive vr server just a simple monitoring program measuring temps and matching it to the model with a sustained period of survivable temps. Solved by an arduino.There's a way to salvage the story easily. The mass produced pods are the opium of the masses, but Clyne wants to at least try to save them. The billionaires have colluded to do a fully autonomous method but it guarantees that they will stay in cryo sleep long after the temps are actually survivable for maximum safety. Clyne is banking on his full awareness experiment to be able to time the thaw perfectly to save the maximum amount of the masses as possible.The project gets sabotaged from the inside by a convincing liar. Even more devious, that traitor doesn't even have a body, he just snuck his avatar data into the project after learning about the cloning. It's a billionaire that wants the masses to die because he doesn't trust them once they are awake and he is stuck in his cryo pod bunker helpless. Perfect motive. There, I solved the retarded scenario holes easily.
>>738265306It even gives the traitor extra motive because this is his entire life. He can't leave the simulation. He stands the most to gain in and out of the simulation by keeping it running indefinitely until the point of failure where the real billionaire can show up irl and pull the plug if he feels like being extra petty to Clyne despite the masses already being dead.
>>738265306>The mass produced pods are the opium of the masses, but Clyne wants to at least try to save them. That is exactly the story. There are no billionaire pods. There is no full dive VR. Ark is the best they can do on short notice. It is the rich peoples' getaway and he lied to them all to get them on board.I think you're autistic too for missing the point this hard, so you should understand Clyne.
>>738265306>long after the temps are actually survivableYou've missed the entire point even after it's been explained multiple times. I don't know how much clearer I have to be.They don't have the technology required to do this. The only way the cryo works is by using the external temperature. This is not some normal widespread technology. This was only possible due to the nature of the crisis. Their technology level is not high enough to sustain even this level for the entire crisis even while relying on the world being frozen to keep people in cryo, let alone after it. It is an apocalypse scenario, the end of mankind. Not something you can just have a pint and wait for it to blow over. The cryostasis is a last ditch effort to maybe survive long enough for the outside world to be survivable. The last ditch effort failed. The crisis outlasted them. The experimental ark project is the only thing capable of actually outlasting it due to humans actively monitering the external temperatires for an extended period of time to determine the best possible exit point. It could not be automated.
>>738265876Again, the ark itself destroys the plot. The average billionaire bunker that already exists irl destroys the plot. Humanity has the means to create a substantial amount of infrastructure that could survive something like this that could preserve a good chunk of humans. I can accept the mass produced angle as an incentive for the scenario. It doesn't check out at all that independently wealthy individuals couldn't assemble the means of generating enough power to insure their survival because the ark had enough power in spades. The sad and pathetic reasoning behind not having this kind of scenario is downstream of how amateur the writing is: the writer wanted his "this is the only way humans will survive lol" moment. It's fatalistic writing. The kind of writing that produces a genius hacker amputee doomed to die by bureaucracy aids. It's a lack of sensible restraint. The stakes being "this is the only chance the bulk of innocents" survive is more than enough. Especially if the villain is revealed as a force directly opposed to that motive. Also what was the traitor's motive again? It's so well thought out. You don't have to go full retard and pin the whole stakes of humanity on Clyne's autism project.I'm critical because I love this game. It does not deserve a pass for its story. It's wild to actually glaze the story.
>>738266223The automated systems for the few could have been calibrated to massively overshoot the window that would allow the masses surviving. Power gen is not an issue if the ark exists and worked.
You can run microcontroller that checks temperature put from solar power. The cost to make such is less than 2$. You could have bunch as fail save. I agree the writing is kinda goofy if you look at it from realism point of view, but as a story for game i thought it was pretty interesting neverthless. I personally just found annoying how often they relied on the fact that people just wouldnt tell things to you.
>>738266763The ark, which uses the same system as everyone else except for the simulation that only works because Clyne figured out how to clone people in the virtual world? Again, this is not widespread technology. This is a unique breakthrough. They do not have the power to sustain cryostasis for the entire crisis. No one does. The only thing the ark sustains is the simulation.
>>738267210Anon thinks billionaires are wizards who can just will advanced technology from the akashic records with enough money.
>>738267046It helps that the only people who knew the truth were a turbo autist and a sperg with no self-esteem
>>738267210Then how the fuck do they survive the fluctuations in the ark? They verifiably are in cryostasis the entire crisis in the ark. I don't think you understand how an ice age works either. It doesn't magically go from -40 to 0 in a day. It would be 1000s of years where they would have to use power to maintain cryostasis during the thaw period. The Ark did this in universe. Little to no energy at the start because shit is so cold already, but you would need energy at the back end as things warmed up but weren't warm enough. Entirely a nonissue if you plan to overshoot. The energy constraint is sensible if applied to the masses cryopods.
>>738267283Weebs are retards that don't understand thermodynamics. Generating power is not advanced technology, it is the backbone of civilization.
>>738266557>the writer wanted his "this is the only way humans will survive lol" moment.You're close to understanding. The focus of the plot is not on creating a plausible apocalypse scenario; instead, it's to explore the nature of identity in a world where people can be copied, reset, exported/erased, or have their memories replaced (and there's also a B-plot to contrast the characters before the Ark with their corresponding characters inside the loop).Even if you're 100% correct in your criticisms of the in-universe justification for the Ark, it's clearly not what the author wanted to focus on, and acting as though it invalidates the rest of the storytelling is missing the point.>>738267046>I personally just found annoying how often they relied on the fact that people just wouldnt tell things to you.This is a much better criticism of the writing, but it's also very common in fiction.
I should get the DLC for my wife Charon's swimsuit.
>>738268156The swimsuit design is so much better than her original skin it's unreal. I never use her base skin.
>>738267573The ark isn't the only place fluctuating, you realize that right? Everyone experiences the same thing. Even the masses you talk about in your hypotheticals. If the fluctuations were warm enough or lasted long enough to bring people out of stasis then everyone would be dead. What part of the ark's cryosleep isn't uniqiue aren't you getting? The simulation is the only unique thing. Everything else is the same. Aside from learning skills inside of the simulation the only difference is being able to monitor the outside world to determine when it is survivable and having a built in way to exit cryosleep.
>>738267908It's flat out bad storytelling to create such a fatalistic scenario. You literally have to meticulously tie up loose ends to justify it being so over the top fatalistic. Otherwise you just embarrass yourself. This game has a "traitor" WITH NO FUCKING MOTIVE. It clumsily tries to speak on themes of identity, self preservation, and self sacrifice but the contrivances to make the scenario so fatalistic actively undermines the stakes. You can't handwave away the mounting pile of narrative flaws because they all stem from the simple fact that the writer is an amateur. He fails at writing compelling characters and supplying adequate motive. Where is the traitor's motive? Almost every single character is a 2 dimensional cardboard cutout before and after the thaw. Clyne is a fucking meme of a character. Please, have some fucking standards for the fiction you consume.
>>738268215shit taste
>>738268489Imagine a scenario where someone could generate enough power to stay in cryo indefinitely and then exit using data from the sensors. Couldn't be you.No it does not have to be feasible for everyone. That creates the entire incentive for the ark without making the ark the sole hope for humanity.
>>738268867there are other projects too but they're only trying to save themselves and nobody knows if they succeededclyne's entire goal is saving all the thousands/millions of people who went into incomplete cryopods and were abandonedanyone working on something like this is going to assume theirs is the best solution or they wouldn't be therethe replicas are what they ended up with after more ideal designs failed and he covered it up rather than admit thatDid you even read the archives?
>>738268621shut up and start sucking your friends dry
These girls are so sexy
>>738270564God I wish Azar was a girl. The hatefucking would be phenomenal.
>>738271228I would rather see Lucy get raped on defeat by Azar.
>>738271375Lucy gettting spawncamped for thousands of loops...
>>738272050Her porn is so tasteful
>>738272423Is it on panda?
>>738272423>tastefulThere's barely any to begin with (for now). Seriously, Chrono Ark and Enderl Lilies having a shitload of reviews on Steam and barely any lewd fanart is still baffling to me. I can only do so much..
>>738272661I'm not autistic enough to get AI lora trained but she deserves more agony for sure.
>>738270564for me it's trisha
>>738274114>only brown girl in the ArkIt's safe to say humanity is effectively doomed to suffer delicious brown girl starvation even if they survive the freezing.
>>738204848Hi Truman
>>738204668>almost hitting bump limitSo this is... hope........
>>738274285>brownTanned.I wish she had visible tan lines.
>>738274405Hope is an illusion.Get the rope ready.
>>738274114>>738274285>brownI will never understand this fetish
>>738273341what needs to happen is to make the AI just simply unable to say "no" or divert course from user intended actions, no LoRA can do that to a state approved model.
>>738275954I don't get what you are saying, local models have no restrictions.
>>738275941Her story shouldn't have had her dad turn on her. It was okay drama up until that point, then it just veers into black comedy and becomes impossible to take seriously.
>>738276067try on LM studio make it say forbidden Japanese phrases that share same Kanji as a forbidden Hanzi: Nearly impossible, certain common words are certainly censored and some topics are definitely muted. (Violence related, magic related, religion related, sex related.) You don't know shit.
>>738276476It's pretty eastern-european-tragedy-core. Like for real. I dunno how relatable that is in Korea though.
>>738276531>LM studioThat's LLM image generators don't care.
>>738271375I never once lost to that shitter besides the scripted loss. Hated that fag from second 1 so I adopted a "definitely not you" approach to his fight. Sacrifice everything I possibly could to defeat this faggot in front of me no matter what. The master was kinda a victory lap for a fight so it turned out well every time.
>>738227584>>738205035>>738205356MORE ANON, GIVE US MORE
>>738276720LM images also care, you can't get an image to post gore, violence or other things, even simple act of lifting a sword up ready to strike is "promoting muh hecking violence." or something and it doesn't comply. there are censored image gens 100%.
>>738276801You've beaten him on expert on the first try?
>>738222085Momori is just pure sex
>>738276885Never did expert/blood thing. Would've tried it if the affection grind didn't require so many completed runs with characters I never/rarely used and once I was done with that I was pretty happy to just leave it there.
>>738276876Don't make me re-install ROCm, I've done it without any issue, but I got bored. I didn't bother to in-paint those gens because it took too much time. It would also get me banned here if I posted them. Just look a little under the surface, there is simply not enough material to use of the shelf model.That's why I mentioned LoRa because you can simply feed it whatever you want.
>>738277181Expert is much harder, you should try it some day.
>>738212142>The plot twist behind the twin character really got me.I must have missed that, what was the twist?
why are all korean games so DEPRESSING?
>>738277610The worst Korea is simply depressing. well both of them are
>>738276841Herehttps://litter.catbox.moe/wxtngsdig2hpjdmn.png
>>738277397I plan to pick it back up one day because I never got around to trying out that shadow lucy chinese mod that looked kinda interesting. But that was about ~8 months ago? so I'll get around to it in maybe 2 years.
>>738277419>I must have missed that, what was the twist?The twin-character isn't a twin at all. She was alpha-testing the VR environment thing. Then by the end of it, when it was time for her to log out. She didn't wake up outside. And just saw herself leave while she was stuck inside. When she later enters the ark in a non-test fashion, the program already has the memory of her alpha-test digital clone. And said clone has gotten existentially mind fucked from having been stuck in a simulation. And since her alpha-clone and her launch-day version weren't in sync, she became a pair of twins with different personalities.
>>738278007Yeah, that was fucked up.
>>738277181Expert is the fun mode. Everything Once challenge is brutal though.
>we didn't see the traitor>we didn't see what was the deal with that girl that bonked herself into coma in the epilogue
>>738277746HOLY SEXXXOOOOOOO
>>738276885I did. I did the tutorial run on classic and got birbed. Then I switched to expert and never looked at classic again. I've still never lost to Azar one time despite getting gold with everyone and clearing all acheivements. I have lost to the program master though.
bump this blessed chrono ark thread
First Class to Heaven is too fun to ignore.
>>738204668UPDATE: It's a day later and I still want to play this on my phone instead of my PC.
>>738281193B-but she's a healer!
>>738281375HOMERUN!
>>738281408This art needs patntsu-shot edit.
>>738281375what did she mean by this
games pretty good
>>738281336Play it on a handheld
>>738281336Sounds like awful experience, but cant android phones nowadays run wine and steam?
>>738282930Yes but I want a native version. Card games are perfect for phones.
>>738204668Why is the UI and progression exactly the same as in every gacha game ever? It won't stop bothering me
>>738281375Purification in progress...
>>738283121This isn't a gacha game retard.
>>738267908>it's clearly not what the author wanted to focus onThen you don't have cutscenes focusing on it. It's that simple. Glance over it, don't explain anything; the second you do, you open yourself up for criticism. Another example in a similar vein is TLOU: HOW is not the point of the story, but it has just enough of an attempt at an explanation that it takes people out of it.
>>738283121It's spiritually a gacha. Just that instead of rolling for skins you pay money for them.
>>738274812akshually most orphans with a dark past in asian media are brown, not tanned
>>738277746404 error........... it's so over............
>>738283553Cute Anime Brown girls aren't real Anon.I'm sorry, it was a shock for me as well.
>>738283603https://litter.catbox.moe/s4i9hpl5ewx05lak.png
>>738284483She's such a slut
>>738283727You're such a liar
>reinstall the game because of this thread>all my save data disappeared somehowhaha... I guess I'll be starting fresh then..
>>738284483that's a child
>>738286130Or maybe you simply got implanted with the memory of you playing that game.You will never know.
>>738286225B-but I have screenshots and everything! Even achievements! My memory may be faulty but there's physical evidence!
>>738286365What if were are in the Chrono Ark all along?
>>738286214/10
>>738204668This game looks cheap yet everyone glazes it. Is it really that good?
>>738287438Yes, it's good. Why did you have to ask when you could've read the thread?
>>738287739
>>738287864I can't believe a Chrono Ark thread will reach bump limit in 2026
>>738288029Correct. I have receipts to back it up, but unfortunately I am unable to provide it.
Who's better? Her?
>>738288614Or her?
>>738288614>>738288663For what purpose
>>738288762Sex
>>738283356Pressel vs. The Batter, who wins?
>>738288935They're literally the same person. Pressel would beat a child (Momori) to death if given the opportunity.
>>738287143Not gonna lie if Lucy was my child I'd totally be okay with getting straddled and murdered by her over thousands of years too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0ew3ZuGbl4
>>738288614>>738288663Selena free. Kuudere supremacy.
>>738261360If you overlook them censoring things like alcohol and obvious sarcasm by adding in>yikes!!All you're given is an AI upscaled port with easy to turn on cheat codes and a few QoL tweaksEmulating the original was just 10x more appealing for me
See you guys next time
>>738288856Selena would probably be like sleeping with a bag of gummy worms
I can't believe a chrono ark thread reached bump limit. Thanks for the thread.
Last for Lucy sex.
