What the fr*ck... /v/ told me it was going to cost 1400$...
It should have been 1488 am I right fellow racists?
>>738206451well the parts are shit so no wonder its not
it's subsidized. they will have paid dlc content on it like letting you install video players and image viewers with each codec being a separate charge which will be where they make up the difference and more from
>leaker>says probably lol its going to be $1200 dumbass
>>738206451Valve can realistically eat any cost and bank on RAM prices going down with time.
Steam can sell them at a loss for decades and literally will not impact their bottom line at all there is something more important than money at stake here
>>738206451That seems way too absurdly low$800 is much more realistic
>>738206562666 dollars for the satanism memes
>>738206773They certainly didn't do it with the controller.
>>738206847What if they bumped the price of the controller to finance the Steam Machine?
>>738206451Prove him wrong. You can't. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXxxMwjku0s
When the steam deck came out, how much money would it had cost to build yourself a comparable PC with monitor and controller price thrown into the mix? I feel like answering that question is going to give a pretty good indicator as to how cheap valve dares to make their hardware.
>>738206451Wait, does it come bundled with the controller?
They'd be stupid not to eat the costs but Gabe is no slouch when it comes to eating.
>>738206598What makes you think Valve would nickel and dime such basic features when they did not do this with Steam or the Steam Deck? You buy any single product on Steam, and you unlock every feature forever. Nobody is going to buy a video or image player on Steam machine when there's tons of free options available for that both on and off Steam.
>>738206962You can absolutely do it, but if you're building your own PC this is not for you in the first place. This is a plug and play PC with specific form factor because people care about that.
>>738206451It’s going to be AT LEAST 899 for the base model
i don't think buyers understand how dogshit fsr 2/3 is, and the gpu in the gabecube is too weak to handle fsr 4 int8it's a scam at any price
>>738207112Better than 70% of PCs using Steam. Are you saying 70% of Steam users are retarded?
>>738207187Yep.
How did a multibillion dollar company like Valve not foresee the memory price hike?
>just buy a use-No.
>>738207187You have to understand most Steam users don't necessarily have a GAMING PC.
>>738207096??? Did you read my post? I am talking about using the steam deck as a benchmark on how cheap valve is willing to price their hardware as compared to the raw market prices of the components.
>>738207187>70% of Steam users are retardedthey're definitely poorfags, so they won't be able to afford a gabecube. this talking point is ripped straight from their press releases but never made any sense to me, if so many steam users have such underwhelming hardware it's not because they didn't have an opportunity to buy an overpriced prebuilt
>>738207187>Are you saying 70% of Steam users are retarded?70% of steam users are third worlders playing on toasters
>mlidYikes.
>>738207112>>738207096Build a better PC for 650$
>>738207356why? Im not poor
>>738206773Genuine retard if you believe this
>>738206773>>738206847Pretty sure their plan is selling Steam Machine at a loss, and making back the revenue through Steam sales, and premium priced Steam Controller
>>738207253How do you think they became a multi-billion dollar company?
>>738207253Because they have the maturity and business sense of a naive indie startup.
>>738207253I don't think anyone could have predicted "billionaire retards buy all the RAM ever for the next 10 years"
>>738207356
>>738207457I kind of think Gabe knew.
>>738207546Wtf based Gabe financed my AI anime feet porn?
>>738207338And now they have a new and improved toaster to play on. Valve already proved themselves with the Deck, that they are able to squeeze a lot of power out of shitty hardware. Steam Deck typically outperforms it's competitors at 15W TDP. The competitor devices only perform better with brute force retard strength. I think the Steam Machine will surprise a lot of people with how well it will run many things. Linux with Proton can often run games better than native Windows. It's why Microsoft is being forced to improve Windows for gaming finally. They're trying to squash any market share Linux may achieve. They don't want it to creep up on them and steal the gaming audience over time. Competition is good and they have needed it for a while.
>>738206451>according to well known leaker Tyler McViker
>>738207725>Completely making shit up.
>>738207671You know it.
>valve said it won't be priced like a console and more like a PC>retards still think it would be subsidiedWhy set yourself up for disappointment
>>738207787Those funny words were uttered in the past...
>>738207690This. Retards dont understand that the strenght of consoles is that with a large userbase using the same type of device, the OS can be optimized to run the games far more efficiently than with random PC's.
>>738206451600 dollars would've been last years price
>>738206598Gabe put HDMI 2.0 on the Gabecube to avoid paying the HDMI cartel for the right to use their new version on Linux. And SteamOS exists solely to avoid paying licenses and fees to corpos, it wouldn't make sense for it to require paid codecs to work.
here, now your pc is a steambox
>>738207875Alright, now point out where it says Tyler McVicker in OP's post.
>>738208141I just wanted to post something comical it's not that deep...
>>738208240hahahahah!! :D
>>738208297thanks :)
>>738206451how can Valve stop scalpers from buying out the steam machine?
>>738208373By creating negative demand
>>738206451>well known leaker
>>738208373Buy limits on extremely seasoned steam accounts.
>>738206451Hell yeah, spread misinfo that people take as gospel immediately because they want it to be true so they can be pissed of at Valve when they price it higher than that as if they had any involvement in getting people's hopes up.
>>738206683>bank on RAM prices going down with timelmao the AI train is not slowing down, it will devour everything until there's nothing left
>>738208563how much seasoning we talking? salt and pepper?
>>738208675RAM factories have already increased their production to account for the increased demand, just like in 2020 and 2021. By next year the price will crater, just like in 2022.
>>738208675Except even with billions of dollars being dumped into it on a state level it's violently imploding on itself since nobody actually wants to use it.
>>738206598Yea, just like how they did this with the Steam Deck.Oh no, wait, they didn't do that at all, it's just a handheld PC with a console-like UI at sartup.
>>738206451>Moore's Law is DeadWhy do people keep giving this retard attention?
>>738207831I don't get why these cultists even try to cope, they will buy it anyway, even if they have to sell their kidneys
>>738208892He says things I like.
>>738207096>15.2x15.6x16.24>Not a cubeREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>738208820garlic and ginger pastecajun seasoning maybe...
>>738208998well its not called the steam cube
>>738208892Cause it's easyAnd it does a lotta damage
>>738206451I'm not convinced this news is real but if it is then it's a good idea on Valve's part. Now's a good time to sell a cheap PC at a loss and flood the market with Linux PCs before Apple steals all of the Windows users.
There is no way it will cost $600-650.It's not possible. Even without x5 DDR4/DDR5 prices.
>>738207356If you buy a used GPU, pretty easy, if not you'll probably have to go a couple hundred over budget.
>>738209142If Valve aren't retarded, they'll sacrifice a few gold piles from their coffers for the possible new long-term users.Tanking hardware cost has always been standard with consoles.
>>738207546Wait a second. Gabe donated to OpenAI that flipped to for profit later? That investment would probably dwarf Steam worth if he wasn't cucked out.
>>738209439he could've had 8 yachts instead of just 7....
>>738209265At that point I'm buying a used Steam Machine.
>>738208563But whote people dont season dey steam account...
>>738206451it's impossible that cost less than $1000idk what kind of retard this retard is quoting
>>738209548Probably, yeah. You'd only care about buying your own computer if you planned to upgrade it in the future, and well, you're not doing that with this build. You're buying AM4 or LGA1700 DDR4 MOBOs that the new stuff can't use. If it's at $650 it's a pretty good value.
Is the Deck 2 still looking to be an ARM?
just release it before it gets even more expensive
It's pretty ridiculous how big chunk of PC/console price lies in GPU. GPU cost three+ times more than CPU or any other PC part. And for modern PC you need to buy more expensive motherboard while back in 00-10s motherboard was so irrelevant you always bought the cheapest one.
>>738206451Honestly? as a starter pc thats not bad at all IF thats the real price
>>738209678Amd doesnt have any chips that meet their requirements. So unless they bend their requirements or go with an Intel chip, probably.
>>738207546Companies started buying up RAM in October 2025. Valve knew.
>>738206451>read the actual source for this>it’s some guy saying that they should probably sell it for this much or it won’t sellOh shit it’s over when the real price comes out
>>738206451NOOOO
Anybody who thinks this thing is gonna be sub $1k is retarded$1.2k even
>>738209678Never was. Maybe the 3, if development speeds up considerably.
>>738206451>Paying for a low cost pc with an Steam tagMan, those cultists will eat anything from Valve's asshole. Have some dignity.
I really can't imagine it being 600 bucks. not after all the bumfuckery around hardware prices this past half year
>>738210962>Have some dignity.No. I'm 4channeler poster.
>>738207187Shhhh, master racefags don't want to be reminded less people have better PCs than current consoles.
>>738208892He has actual inside info about hardware.The problem is he makes up everything else, like percieved performance, possible price and the effect of said hardware on the market. He keeps saying how he correctly predicted the price of certain things but is still salty to this day he was completely wrong about the PS5Pro for example. What he essentially does is similar to the average /v/tard who is constanly between it is over and we are so back.
>>738206598log off timmy
>>738206451Isn't Moore's Law is Dead basically "my dad's uncle who works for someone who works at Nintendo" tier?
>>738206451>$600-650They do this and I’m finally done with PlayStation. I already use my steam deck more for emulation and weird, niche PC shit than my PS5 which I never turn on. I don’t give a fuck about AAA shit. Steam Machine and my Switch 2 is all I need for the next 5 years.
>>738212563He has someone from Amd who is probably feeding him shit, but everything else is bs or made up. Or stuff that he doesn't understand.
>>738206451>MLIDLook I would love for this to be true and it would cause such untold levels of seethe on here that I could eat for months but MLID is a massive bullshitter and this number doesn't seem realistic at all, the RAM alone is half the cost at that price point.
>>738206451It's what the shyster does>bro it's totally okay for you to install Windows hint hint, wink wink, nudge nudge99% of the market this is for won't have a fucking clue what Windows is. They just seem 'pc gaming made easy'It'll probably be around a 4050 gpu at most so expect console level fps
>>738206451This is the source by the way. As in these are the words that everyone is using as leaked prices
>>738208820aw hell nah they got dat white peepo steam accounts :skull:
>>738206451Okay so wtf is this thing? Like a PC? What's the point? Cause i'm sure the hradwarde is gonna be the same if not worse as me just getting 650 dollars worth of video card, cpu, ram, hdd? What's the difference.
600-650 is cheap though
>>738208843you are the first non-retarded person I have encountered on the internet for months. Thank you so much for restoring my sanity.
Is there no separation between PCMR and Valve fanboys? I feel like this thing should be universally mocked, but it seems the PC community are celebrating its existence.
>>738213476Check out the threads where people were saying $1000 if you want to see universal mocking.
>>738213476>I feel like this thing should be universally mockedwhy?
>>738206598>Posted from my Epic Account: Tim Sweeney
>>738213476Valve makes billions of dollars and doesn't have any use for it but shill campaigns and yachts.
>>738206451Fucking tired of this Moore Law is dead guy.Fuckface makes a 45 minutes video talking about "leaks" with 10 thousand lines list, he gets 2 things somewhat right and those fuckers all praise this faggot.
>>738206451>Check some of Steam Machine specs>Can have up to 2TB storage>16GB RAMHope you can swap RAM. If not they better have ones with 32GB and 64GB RAM variants.At this point I rather have 64GB RAM with 2TB storage.
>>738215106On Linux you don't need more than 16
>>738206451>MLIDRetard. Not him, you for listening to him.
>>738212297>He has actual inside info about hardware.I've seen him being wrong about so much that I would just assume that he guessed something right by sheer luck if he actually got something right.
>>738209376>>738206598Nobody is subsidizing hardware anymore.
>>738207187My work laptop having steam installed for Slay the Spire is not relevant to FS3 being shit.
>>738207253The fuck were they supposed to do with their multi-billion dollar ability to predict the future you think they have? Build more RAM factories? Why did the trillion-dollar companies not figure that one out?
>>738215735Principle still applies, lose short-term profit to recoup in larger long-term profit. it's uniquely why (successful) consoles have always been done by giant companies.
>saves gaming again>kills Xbox>kills Playstation>kills the RothschildsWorth the weight
>>738209678Needing to have one translation layer for Linux and another one for ARM at the same time sounds like a bit too much trouble to me.
>>738215874THE DREIDEL DESTROYERTHE YIDDISH YEETER
>>738206451I don't understand what really is the point and niche of the Steam Cube other than the fact that it's smol
>>738206598They've already said they won't subsidize because people can put any OS they want on it, there's no guarantee of a return.
>>738216345To get people into the Steam ecosystem. Most consolefags have zero fucking interest in building a fifteen hundred dollar PC and sticking it on a desk in the cuck corner so they can play ball and gun games on a tiny monitor. A Steam console gets them into the basics and potentially some fraction of those buyers will graduate to actual PC users. Caveat being if it's priced and performs near the level of a modern console.
>>738215852consoles are subsidized because they restrict other uses through custom hardware and the software that runs on them assumes exactly one hardware targetthe steam machine is unambiguously a general purpose home computer using commodity hardware that cannot possibly restrict the kinds of software that run on itif they sold these things below cost they would be bought, repackaged, and resold for a tidy sum
>>738216345New Steam Machine has the same exact market niche as Apple's Mac Mini. Low cost point of entry for users and developers who want to jump from Microsoft.
>>738213432Shut up moron
>>738216685They aren't going to be sold below Valve's cost, but because GNU/Linux is a better supported and more efficient OS for the hardware, it will be difficult for any vendor shipping similar hardware with Windows 11 or paying the Nvidia tax to sell a system that performs as well for the price tag.Valve is also going to get some benefit for scale because unlike most vendors who order smaller batches over a shorter time, Valve is likely to be selling the same Steam Machine hardware for a longer period of time.
>>738206451>probably>motherfucker then goes and says yeah the parts will be expensive
>>738207187my switch 1 is higher specs than my pc
>>738218550classic Latinx post
>>738213829Just going based off of PCMRs standard of elitism.
>>738206598Delulu take
If its actually $600 I'll buy one for a TV streaming server. I don't believe it though.
>>738206451in all seriousnesshow will it compare to, say, the ps5 or switch 2 in terms of rendering power?
Should cost as much as the best components and be cheaper over time.Valve is degenerate. Steam users are degenerate.None of you are welcome here. You are on the side of mods, not freedom.
>>738221712About 6x more capable than the Switch 2.Roughly between the PS5 and the PS5 Pro, although that comparison is a little more tricky since it is a dedicated GPU with its own memory.Similarly comparisons to the same hardware in a Windows PC is difficult because the RDNA 3 drivers are so much better and it has FP8 support on Linux.With the surprise announcement that Valve solved the Steam Machine's HDMI problem, it seems likely there will be another surprise when it comes to upscaling and frame generation.
>>738206598This has a shitload of replies for being so low effort.
>>738217236More people are looking to jump from Sony after this awful generation. PS5 is the first console to be a step backwards from its predecessor.
>>738206451No we said the frame is going to cost 1000
>>738206451it’s honestly a really weak system. I’m expecting $750-900 for the basic and upgraded models. I could see it being even cheaper if they’re using cheaper components that are specifically designed for the form factor like heat sink and power supply
>>738206451there's no way it will cost 600 with the current ram and storage pricesit'll be 900 minimum
>600$ for 512gb in 2026
>>738215106>16GB RAMCrysis 2 ran on the 360/PS3 and both of those had 512MB of RAM. In some respects, PC is holding technology back and allows for wasting resources.
>>738206451>$600Fake and gay, there's no universe where it could be that fucking cheap.
>>738206451Yea.It'll cost $600-650 on the first wave. Sell out in literal seconds.Then be resold by the scalper botfarm for $1200 at the least.
>>738206847>subsidize>controllerI knew tendies and snoys were retarded but this is a new low
>>738225843Truth nuke
>>738206773>implying gabe cares about anything other than buying his next mega yacht>>738206598they can't realistically subsidise it, even if they do it will sell out to the point where you can't buy it, and they won't make money buy doing it making it pointless and a drain on their finances. the simple fact that it's a pc means that people can buy it as a general purpose pc and not use it for games if they want, so it's subject to the conditions of that market. It's not going to be $650, and if it is you won't be able to buy it from anyone but scalpers.
>>738206451$600 seems about right for the specs
>>738206451if it's 600 i'm buying itif it's 1200 i'm still buying itand it has literally 0 to do with anything gabe or steam does, but rather the fact that microsoft is unironically a jeet company now and i don't want any of those shit covered, pc illiterate retards working on my stuff
>>738206451This is a pirat_nation post https://x.com/Pirat_Nation/status/2051316166723784858Please do not crop the name out of the screenshot.
>>738225843600p 22fps isn't running
>>738228991thats why i switch to mac for work + console gaming, i refuse to go anywhere near microsoft, don't really want to put up with lintroon either.
>>738212908and the material cost for the steam controller was estimated at 60 bucks
>>738206451>8GB of VRAMIt could be $400 for all I care and it's STILL not worth it!
If this is true dude this thing is going to be fucking impossible to get. What kind of jeet do you have to be to care about playstation or xbox at this point.
The specs aren't even planned obsolescence. It's dead-on-arrival. Are people really going to buy something on par with a regular PS5 in 2026 just so they can have the steam library on it?
>>738206598>Doesn't understand linux at all
>>738229072i used mac like 10 years ago for a bit and i wasn't impressed, i like my current linux thing since it looks and works 90% the same but without all the jeet bloat
>>738206910Could be
>>738230514Sure, I don't play anything made in the last decade anyway.
>>738206451of course it costs that much, rdna 3 7600? what an outdated piece of shit on day 1
>>738216620>To get people into the Steam ecosystem.That's why they require the controller to be Steam-only too.
>>738206451>MLID>well-known leakerlolLMAOROFL
>>738231248Yeswell known for being a sonyshill
>>738208675>THE AI TRAIN IS NOT SLOWING DOWN>various data centers plans halted>Microsoft walking back 11 features rumored by K2>Ram pricing slowly collapsingThe Current state of Ai is over they couldnt force the market which was clearly happening it was all a jewish trick..
So close to tree fiddy
>>738230514>Are people really going to buy something on par with a regular PS5 in 2026 just so they can have the steam library on it?People are buying a hundred dollar controller being reselled at 100% mark up because it has a steam logo on it
>>738207428Valve could sell 10 million units at a 200 dollar per unit loss and still be in the black.And that's assuming that none these consoles drive a single extra software sale that volvo gets to skim 25% off of. Which they would.
>>738208843>>738213432Skyhinix and Micron both increased their spend on their foundries by 10 billion dollars and 5 billion dollars just this last quarter. This is the third time they've done this and it is the most they've ever spent trying to increase their production capacity.You're delusional if you think prices are coming down any time soon. They are behind the demand, not in front of it.
>>738232770why do people on /v/ say dumb shit like this, valve has been releasing hardware for over a decade now and they have never sold things at a loss and they wouldnt start now
>>738207356I do other stuff on my pc, manchild
>>738206451>Moore's law is deadDude talks out of his ass more than McVicker lmao.
>>738232770Valve has never sold hardware at a loss, the Steam Deck is pure profit on every sale, every controller is profit, steam machine 2.0 will be the same.
>>738233136Valve could give me 10 million dollars and still be in the black.Maybe rub your abstract thinking braincells together and work out why your reply is fucking retarded.
>>738206451that's not what he said.
A friend of mine lives in Bellevue and knows like a dozen people who work at Steam. Apparently the final product is going to cost like $10k, unironically. It's also going to weigh about 80 lbs because they couldn't get the parts they were originally going for due to Iran/Taiwan lmao
>>738206594You can get away with much lower end components when you're running a stripped down OS optimized for vidya. The amount of bloat most gamers deal with is ridiculous.
>>738215658It seems like he sees pics/blueprints about the hardware and makes "educated" guesses about the rest. It is not that hard actually, even I predicted the XSX/PS5/Switch 2 price correctly because I read stuff on a daily basis. As for performance I really don't like he fellates every new shit like we are 20 years ago and 50% gains are guaranteed.
>>738236397$20k is a small cost to be able to worship allah and play tf2 anywhere in your home
>>738222743I want to believe but lets not kid ourselves, this is predicted to be weaker than the PS5 by everyone. Upscaling could save it in the long run because the PS5 is so old but it isn't DLSS and also targets 4K TVs which will inevitably lead to disappointments.The exact same problem the current generation consoles faced when 4K adoption became rampant. They had to waste their extra processing power to target 4x resolution, not to mention making 60fps modes mandatory. I have a weaker latop than the Steam Machine and I can play everything but the newest AAA in 1080p/medium/high and it looks good. This system would be absolute ass on a 4K TV.
This guy is known for being wrong %99 of the time and reports anything that will get him views. I know most of /v/ is retarded but I didn't expect you to be this stupid.
>>738236887It's roughly the same spec wise as the ps5, it's the ps5 pro and series X that it's weaker then.
>>738206451if you think about the average steam account over a 10 year period, if someone is buying 1-2 games a year at an average of $30 that's 300-600 extra bucks per person, and that's assuming they don't buy a lot more games than that (many people do) at higher costs (many people do) or mtx in any of the games they buy (many people do)they make a lot more money off of getting customers onto their platform than they do selling the hardware, so they can sell the hardware at a loss because getting new customers is far more valuable. it's the reason you can get smartphones and flatscreen tvs for cheap, because they make more money off of you being a customer than they do the initial purchase
>>738207875>fell for it again award
This thread is laughably fake and gay its a faggot and his small group of shills trying too get us to focus on gabe buying a fucking boat. All you're doing is cementing peoples beliefs.
Sam Altman having a trillionty dollars printed out of thin air for his ScamAI biz caught everybody offguardthe funniest shit being he doesn't have that money. he'll never have that money. a single grifter is fucking up multiple industries globally despite being a bigger scam-man than Bernie Madoff.
>>738231874Despite getting billions in funding, OpenAI has not made a profit yet. It's obviously not a sustainable market.
>>738206598This might actually be one of the most retarded posts I've seen in awhile
>>738206451>according to MLIDI think OP should kill himself
>>738237780You are talking about the Steam Machine like it is a console (locked to a single purpose) but it isn't. The TV/Smartphone comparison is not right either because people want to watch Netflix on their TV and use the Play Store on mobile.However selling a general purpose computer is not the same. That is why the price of prebuilts / laptops is in the same ballpark as the value of the components (or more expensive). There is no guarantee people will use the Steam Machine as a Steam Machine. If you sell it too cheap any kind of people, even companies can buy them in bulk and do productivity work on it while Gaben don't get a dime. On of the more notorious examples was the PS3 which was actually strong for productivity, Sony sold it already on a loss and various orginaizations bought it in bulk for productivity work.
>>738206598Man bait used to be believable, and further, people didn't use to fall for this shit.
>>738232970They all got Altmanned by Sam. The datacenters aren't datacentering anymore.
>can't play any new titles from 2025 onward>next gen consoles arrive next yearWhat is the point of this thing?
>>738207546>>738209527Everyone who donated to OpenAI at the time was bamboozled. That's why Elon sued theml for it.
>>738240538Most PS5 games are still PS4 games.
>>738240538Even my deck still plays basically everything and this is six times more powerful than that. It'll be fine. Especially since everyone is cucked out of better hardware by AI and games are going to have to optimize for that.
How much will the 2TB controller bundle version cost?
>>738206451>512 GB
I don't care either way. I have a PC that costed more than the Steam Machine will, is way more powerful than the Steam Machine, and if I ever want to play on a TV I can just get a cheap Optiplex Micro, install Moonlight on it, hook it up to my network and stream shit that way.
>>738207096>Poorfag basement dweller micro-fridge (me)>Pretentious poorfag basement dweller mini-fridge>Fridge that one rich friend has that has no storage capacity but costs $4,999 somehow because it "matches the man cave's decour"
>>738218818kek
>>738208820If it's seasoned like a Spanish dish, then limit them to only 1 per account. Now, if the account is seasoned like it was prepared by a 6 times ex-convict with a credit score of 215 and 18 kids they've never seen, then you let that fucker order as many as he wants.
>>738206598>it was real in my head I swear
>>738206451>Doesn't even manage a terabyte of storageGet the fuck out of here
>>738216345to get people who would otherwise be console players into the Steam ecosystem, whilst also increasing demand for games to work with Proton thanks to the larger market share
>>738206451Only retards ever claimed it would go near 4 digits or over. They literally said they're aiming for the entry level gaming market ($500-$800) and the specs show it's much weaker than $1000 PCs and mini PCs.
>>738206962>When the steam deck came out, how much money would it had cost to build yourself a comparable PC with monitor and controller price thrown into the mix?A monitor and a (non-shit) controller alone would be 200€ at the time. A PC with 16GB RAM and a Ryzen CPU with integrated graphics would cost 400€-500€ depending on the CPU and DDR4 vs DDR5. So it would be 600€-700€. But, that's not even true. It's actually closer to 900€.The problem is for 700€ you wouldn't have an equivalent performance. The Steam Deck had better integrated graphics than budget APUs, but much worse CPU performance. So you would have a 3x more powerful CPU, while having worse graphics performance. You would have to either spend more for RDNA 2 (900€-1000€ in total) or use a dedicated GPU (800€-900€ in total). And that would technically give you "Steam Deck performance", but you would vastly overshoot the CPU performance and thus have a much better device.Looking at laptops also doesn't help. They were usually either using older Vega GPUs (while being more expensive) or they had dedicated GPUs (which made them even more expensive but more powerful).There really wasn't a device that was comparable to the Steam Deck at the time. The only comparable devices were other x86 gaming handhelds, which were worse yet more expensive.When the Steam Deck came out, it was more powerful and a better deal than other x86 handhelds which were all in the $800-$1500 range. This was true for multiple years until other handheld manufacturers caught up. Even to this date the other handhelds are just marginal improvements so if you have a Steam Deck there is nothing else worth upgrading to yet. Everything is a side-grade or a very minor upgrade.
>>738206562Yeah 14.88 is the only way im buying some stupid fucking game box. Like we need another one! Fucking fan boys.
>>738207356Mac mini (M5)>the cheapest version was discontinuedTemporarily for the current M4 gen! M5 gen is coming out this summer, it'll be back.
>>738248128M5 doesn't have a dedicated GPU and is stuck on macOS. Don't get me wrong, it's not bad, but it's still worse and not worth over $500 even ignoring the significantly worse graphics performance.
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>>738206451if it was priced too high, hard working hat miners and card farmers wouldn't be able to launder their hundreds of dollars.
>$600 for e-waste specsa good deal for Valve
>>738207001>>738208850They did, remember the Steam Deck was supposed to have easy docking but Valve charged $50. China then rebuilt it for $20. Valve scam you.
