Do you regret not getting a Steam Controller? It won’t be available again until 2027 at least.
>>738228836not gay so no chi no sadame ehe
>>738228836Yes ... though I have a steam deck so, silver lining???
>>738228836i already have a controller that i use like once a month
>>738228836>no xinputinto the trash it goes
>>738228836I got mine because I started spamming refresh 5 minutes before 10 and it ended up going live 2 minutes before.
>>738229075>toxotransmosis wisdom
Half of the people who buy shit like won't even use it. They put it on a rack with their other controllers. Stop buying shit you don't need.
>>738228836I'm looking forward to what people say about it
>>738228836i got a gamesir g7 8k. im very happy with it and cant think of a reason to own another controller.
I’ll buy the fixed revision 2027
>>738229184I refuse
>>738228919The entire reason it's not using Xinput is because it's dated as shit software from the Vista era that literally hasn't changed. It exists to allow you to use a controller for games that support controllers, that's it. It doesn't allow for additional keybinds that aren't just mirrors of existing inputs, nor does it allow seamless input swapping between MKB and gamepad unless the game in question is built to allow this, which most aren't.
>>738229543>a bunch of shit no one cares aboutnigga did I stutter? no xinput, no buyI don't care about the who, what, when, or why
>>738228836What special thing does it even do? I don't get it.
>>738228836My 8bitdo is doing fine.
>>738229184Half of the people who bought it are scalpers. Anons telling you they bought one paid 3x the price after scalpers jizzed good ol' FOMO in their asses.
>>738229681It is not Valve's fault it isn't supported, and 3rd party configuration support on modern platforms works well.Xinput is just another part of Microsoft's badly dated platform they've left to rot.
>This item is not available for purchase in your regionthx, Gabe
>>738228836No. I don't play video games.
Will I be able to play Gran Turismo 1 on ePSXe or Duckstation with this or not? I never had a problem using my xbox 360 controller and ps3 controller on my pc - only with the controllers themselves (dpad, stickdrift) so I am thinking of getting Steam Controller.
>>738228836not at all
Managed to snag a controller and now I want the gabe cube. Just fucking release it already
valve drones have surpassed even iToddlers for most pathetic e-waste cult freaks
>>738228836waiting to see what the bundles with the box/glasses look like before deciding to purchase one.
>>738228836then how am i supposed to impress internet strangers that i owned shit that i don't need?
>>738229904"Left to rot" meanwhile every PC game that supports controllers natively supports Xinput.I get being excited for this if you're a steambabby that buys all their PC games through steam which can brute force controllers to work, but for people who want shit to just plug in and work with "any pc game" then you gotta stick with stupid fuckin xbox controllers.
>>738228836why are you japanese?
>>738230470pc users who demand their pc work exactly like an xbox genuinely confuse me, so much so you refuse to not use windows
>>738230470>every PC game that supports controllers natively supports Xinput.It is more like that all Microsoft offers is the bare minimum to support their own controllers, so games make do with it on their platform out of necessity.If your game is built around the restrictions imposed by an Xbox controller, then you don't have a problem.The problem with Windows is that it is a closed source OS, and maintaining the bits of it important for gaming have been virtually abandoned by Microsoft for years.For the longest time they've only done the bare minimum when their hand is forced.Now they're not even doing that, and nobody else can do it for them.
>>738230470Make new inputs that use keyboard bindings on your gamepad through Xinput without mods. Oh wait...Valve's gamepad can do this, because it doesn't use Shitput.
>>738228836Why would I need one
>>738231168LIt's the new labubu, anon. Buy one now or you'll miss out!
>>738231645Still doesn't explain what this stream controller is good for when you have a mouse/keyboard already.Is it for couch PC gaming? Isn't it meant to be used with the steam frame? That's not even out yet and you get vr controllers with that.Stupid thread, dumb hype, retarded controller.
>>738228836Why would anyone regret not having one?
>>738228836And a ching chong nip nong to you
Bros, if I get a steam machine, can I just use my deck as a controller? This new controller is literally just that without a screen, right?
>>738228836I got one of these. Kind of janky, but at 1/7 the price so it’s all right.
>>738231758What do you think?What are labubu good for?What are steam controller good for?Found the answer? Buy a dozen now!
>FOMO is okay when Gabe does it
>>738228836>Not asymmetric It's garbage
>>738230147On Linux yes
>>738232028>fomoIt's sold out due to popularity lol
>>738232126Then why even make this steam controller at all if you can't even use it to play games?
>>738230147add emulator as a non steam game
I'll get one with that comes with the console.
>>738232748People keep saying this but how can that even be the case when it's not already out yet?
>>738232748Or use a controller that does not require you to add every fucking software to steam.You guys are mentally ill for defending this garbage
>>738229075I'll remember this for the Frame launch.So annoying that Valve doesn't let people preorder hardware.
>>738232910Because thats how steam input system literally works, you tech illiterate
>>738231993The people who buy labubu are still not on my side so whatever
>>738228856JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOJO
>>738233005back buttons, gyro and trackpads, and steam input are worth the hassle>>738232910did you misquote or something?
Was there really a big ass demand for controllers? What happened to these people buying 3rd party?
>>738233190The people excited for the SC probably already own a different one, and wanted an upgrade.I doubt many people are getting it as their first.
>>738230206>>738232028your impotent seething about it is the cherry on top
>>738228836I was wanting one but ended up buying a mechanical keyboard for a bit less instead that I'm enjoying very much. Companies really need to come up with ways to combat subhuman scalpers.
>>738233190The rumor is that Valve's initial shipment for the controller is 40k which really isn't all that much. Scalpers are also going to scalp anything they can.
>>738231039>If your game is built around the restrictions imposed by an Xbox controller, then you don't have a problemWell, you do. Your problem is that the game is simplified to fit the lowest common denominator when it could have had more complex controls if it didn't have to work on the xslop controller.
>>738228836Gaben wasn't selling it in my country, so no.
>>738234020>not available in your countrySo was the Steam deck anyway yet people somehow brought a shit ton here and sell mods/aftermarket parts. I’ll wait until stock replenish and things get more stable, no rush.
>>738228919Xinput is so old and busted it cant do half the shit modern controllers do like gyros and touchpads and shit.and even then, in 5 minutes after the first nerd gets one there will be a DS4Windows equivalent translation layer for xinput if you really need it for some reason.
>>738229075I woke up 10am Australia hours after they launched here and got one no problem.I dunno when they sold out but they are now.
>>738228836It will be available every week or two
How do I know in what wave I got it and how many days it will take?it just shows this with no ETA
>>738234446If you ordered the controller before 1:20 PM EST you are confirmed 1st waveAnything else after that is 2nd wave
>>738234707I got it 13 minutes after the official release timeis it guaranteed first wave?
>>738229543>>738234253Ok? And now without it you can't use your controller, at all. So it's retarded to not include it.
>>738234749Yes.As long as it was before the 20 minute timeframe>t: ordered his and got the 3-5 day shipping
the scalped controllers seem to be selling well
>>738234797Forgot to mention that I ordered mine 10 minutes into the wait
>>738234707>purchased may 4 @ 2:08pmits over for me im a second wave beta
>>738235028My condolences anon…
>>738234771>Boot Steam>The platform with all your games on it>All games work with itNot my problem you play on EGS.
I'd like to stream from my phone with something like this, but getting the controller to work with android will probably be a problem
>>738228836No I already have GameSir with Hall Effect.
>>738229543Xinput is fine. You're insane.It seems 'dated' because it works. Old things that work don't need to be changed. Innovation at that point can be seen as unnecessary. Cool, sure, but unnecessary.Some people just want a controller that works. A wired xbox controller works just fine, and it's $70 cheaper. $100 cheaper if you have one lying around your house, which you probably do.
>>738235564>xinput is fine>doesnt support gyrook grandpa
>>738235379Every phone has a Steam apps that provides Steam input, nigglet
>>738235621Xbox fags hating gyro is like old people in 2010 hating the Internet. They are so stuck they don't know what they are missing.
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>>738235794No Nintendo, and no Xbox?? Interesting.
>>738228836If it were asymmetrical, and I actually knew it was releasing today, maybe.
>>738235794You should add nintendo, they have the most annoying aspie fanbase
>>738235854Xbox fanbase doesn't exist anymore.
>>738230147Literally all modern emulators use SDL for input which will just address most controllers directly over HID. SDL got support for this thing last year so as long as your emulator is reasonably up to date it will work without Steam, yes even on Winshit.
>>738233021they did with steam decktook like 8 months to get yours if you ordered within 5 minutes
>didn't buy the original controller>didn't buy the original steam machine>didn't buy the original steam frame>didn't buy steam link>not buying the new steam controller >not buying the new steam machine>not buying the new steam frameI am not missing out on anything, I'd rather keep my money and buy something I'll actually use like a new pair of garden gloves
>>738236482You're on the wrong board old man>>>/diy/
>>738236629I did get the steam deck
>>738228836>Only 2 per customer >place 2 in basket>go back to the page>place another 2 in the basket>it works>I have 4Im doing my part!
>>738235903Yet people still defend Xbox controller as NOT a trash purchase today
>>738230147If the emulator is actively being devloped they should've added SDL support at some point to make it seemless.>>738232748Worse comes to worse you can also use SISR which iirc makes it act like Xinput without running the game through Steam
>>738229854doubtful, scalpers dont have THAT many accounts
>>738228919
>>738233021>do so>scalpers can get it allnahthey forced the scalpers to scrabble in the dirt with everybody else, and a limit of two items per account
>>738234289We got it easy here, I got it at 3am since I was up but yeah my overseas friends were crying about it being sold out already lol
>wishlist it>wait until 2am when it’s for sale>stare at screen>go to sleepI realized it was a huge waste of money.
>>738228836kinda but also kinda notI wanted one, but from an objective point of view, I don't use controllers often enough to justify dropping 100 bucks on one really
>>738236906shills are getting desperate, pathetic
>>738228836maybe v.2 will have better placement for the sticks
>>738237049>>738237280>everyone finally excited when time draws near after dozens of shill threads with pajeets seething over xinput (and getting debunked by the chart of saaaardom)>people start raging when their orders struggle>suddenly sour grapes
>>738229543my 50 dollar controller lets me switch back and forth with xinput
>>738228836>PC Controller>Doesn't work unless you're using SteamLiterally DRM for a controller.
i gotted mine. how do i see what batch I'm in?
>>738237391Because the games you play are built to allow it. A lot of older games cockblock all MKB input if you have a gamepad installed.
>>738230572he just wants to feel important, seethe a bit and insult others.didn't you hear his powerful declaring about "no xinput, no buy" that will bring Valve to its knees and drive them into bankruptcy? he's a really important person, you better listen to his demandskek
>>738237494No I can switch from Xinput to steaminput by switching the 2.4/bt
>>738230195>Managed to snag a controller and now I want the gabe cubeGood job Pigeon
>>738237612And the Steam controller just ditches Xinput because it's shit.>No gyro support>No support for new button maps, only duplicates of existing ones
I'm happy with my gameSAAR tyvm
>>738237412>Doesn't work unless you're using SteamFalse.
>open steam>STEAM CONTROLLER IS HERE!>sold outGaben why....
>>738234253>>738229543>"backwards compatibility is b-bad okay!"man, the steamies will come up with all kinds of bullshit to protect their fatjew
Tfw boughtedTfw had no issues because EU
I don't have a use case for onenow, WHERE'S THE FUCKING FRAME, VOLVO
>>738228836I don't think my Dualsense is breaking that fast.
>>738240521backwards compatibility is bad if it hamstrings progress.there's a reason we dont have horse shit shoveling stations along the roads anymore
BACK IN STOCK, GRAB ONE ASAP!!!!
>>738236775I wonder what the limit is before they cancel your orders, like, if you ordered 10 batches of 2 would they honor it?
>>738243728>hype train shillNo.
>everyone's going to want this>lets make an extremely small amountWhy do they do this?
>>738234253lmao stfu you fucking non game playing animal, tell me what game you played in the past week that required touchpad or gyro.The only game I played in my life that required gyro was mario odyssey and I wished that crap wouldn't be in the game, no go eat shit you fucking indian on valve's payroll
>>738244538Any game with aiming or more actions than a traditional controller has buttons.
>>738244538It doesn't need to require it, but having more options is better than no option at all.
>>738244619you indians need to be ip banned I swear dude...the lack of xinput only matters on windows, which is a pc, and you're talking to me about playing shooters on a controller on pc?>>738244630also this guy is clearly linuxbrained, you have infinite options but they all suck, how does that work out for you faggots?
>>738228836why the fuck would i need one when i have perfectly fine xbox/ps4/5 controllers, i only use a controller when i'm on emulators or playing racing games
>>738244694>and you're talking to me about playing shooters on a controller on pc?Yes. What exactly is wrong with that? There's also tons of games that have aiming besides shooters.
>>738240521kys steamie jeet.
Nah my 360 controller still worksWeighing up between a steam machine and am4 x3d rerelease though
>>738244723I guess you don't then. You're not the target audience. Good for you!
>>738244353>snoy is SO FUCKING MAD hes having a hard time containing his ragemust suck to suck, enjoy playing saros with a faggy control scheme on one of the faggiest controllers of that control schemePC GODS could never.
i want to fuck japanese anons
>>738240521PC lets you use literally any controller you want, consolefaggotnigger, you knew that alreadySteam isnt removing xinput support for old, decaying controllers. But nor is it using it for their cutting edge controller that you cannot use on your faggot machine.
>>738228836I know nothing about this item. What's the selling point over any other controller I already have?
I fucking love when consolefags make threads.Keep em coming.You dumb niggers cannot help yourselves, you HAVE to win no matter what, even if it means being literally retardedone day its "yeah, this game runs like shit on our system but we are okay with it therefore we win!"see elden ring or MH Wildsthe next day its"xinput is good guys, keep using this archaic tech! hahaha Steam controller doesnt have xinput?! hahaha"amazing.
>>738244873>retard thinks his console war faggotry is relevant to the kingslook at the faggots, guys!
>>738245175
$300
>>738245224Do it. It's tailor made for you.
>>738245264
>>738245294Nice profile pic. You have a whole folder of yourself? Truly, a model faggot.
>about to buy controller >hesitate and cancel payment process>30 minutes later >about to buy controller again>hesitate and cancel payment process>30 minutes later >fine I’ll just do it>sold out
>>738245396Try and be early next time before it gets scalped again
Not really. I still live in Japan, safe from blacks, Muslims, Americans and you.
>>738245390>snoy nigger so mad hes now just resorting to "no u"you cannot make this shit up, why are sony cultists so immature and insecure? why are they this mad over a controller? Why not demand sony do better instead?
>>738245396why are you schizophrenic and retarded?people like you dont deserve to handle your own money, you need an adult managing you.
>>738228836Nah. I'm interested but I'm going to wait and see what people think about it first. Also waiting for SC Controller or some other 3rd party mapper to come along and support it so I don't need to actually use Steam. In the meantime I'll make do with the original Steam controller.
>>738229184i don't like my 8shitdo pro2 and i do like the control scheme on my 'eckwhat now?
>>738228856heh
>>738245486its simple, this controller is objectively better than, and a better value than, the dualsense. Snoys HAVE to attack this controller because it makes them look bad, it makes sony look bad.Sony is charging a similar price for a controller of lower quality and less features, with 1/15th of the battery (steam controller rated at 70 hours despite valve saying 40, DS only does 4-5)Based on specs, material quality, features etc, the DS should be around $20. But since these people are sony diehards, they cannot just admit they are being raped by sony, they cannot admit coming in last place, they HAVE to lie, get mad, and slander. Its the only way they can "win"Everyone knows the controller mops the floor with the DS, especially the snoy.
>>738245538My hesitation saved me 100 bucks. I don’t need a new controller, my 8bitdoodoo works perfectly fine
I just bought hall-effect sticks off a Chinese site for dollars a pop and so my xbone controller lasts forever.
>>738245667You could just put it on ebay if you changed your mindLike I did
>>738228836I already have a controller. Why would I need this one?
>>738245687because you love sucking small gaben cock
>>738228836I had to work, and I can’t buy controllers while I’m there, so all the greedy NEETs with their NEET bucks cleaned them out before I even had a chance to get one
>>738245012The trackpads (and gyro, though it's not exclusive to this) let you aim with mouse tier accuracy and function as touch menus, giving you as many buttons as a keyboard. The capacitive sticks and grips make gyro aiming better by letting you toggle it on or off on the fly.
>>738245396Yep been there done that
>>738228836I play on PC, why would i get a controller?
>>738245654>Snoys HAVE to attack this controller because it makes them look bad, it makes sony look bad. Quite izzat-like behavior. Really makes you think just who the console target audience is composed of exactly.
>>738245667>I d-didn't even sn-need it an-anyway
Crying about xinput is the biggest sign of a shill. Anyone who actually played games in the ~2007-2013 GFWL era when most PC ports only natively supported 360 controllers already knows how to get around it and that was before steam did it for you.
>>738235729I hate playing shooters on controller, it's only tolerable with gyro to me. Hoping Splatoon Raiders will have mouse support though, that's still preferable.
>>738245892Seems pretty neato, especially since I can't keyboard with any degree of speed or accuracy to save my life, but 100 buckaroos is a lot for a controller.
>>738228836im going to get one after i get a couch and a tv for some couch gaymin
>>738228836Never be a pioneer for new tech. You are just paying to do beta-testing.
>>738245964its like disney adults, only, for brown people.
>>738245801>go to toilet>whip out phone with steam_app.tm installed>open steam app>buy controlleruh, anon...
>>738246370>enjoy sloppy secondsyou sound like a massive cuck>b-but my point!the thing was already "beta tested" before going on sale, dumbnigger, but I guess when you grow up with console manufacturers you get this mindset, we here in the PC realm dont have to worry about this.
Why don't they just make more? Nintendo solved the scalper problem by flooding the market with product all at once more than scalpers can buy. It's that easy.
>>738246918Same reason they don't sell their shit at retailers. Valve doesn't want to share revenue with NOBODY even if it benefits their consumers. So you'll get limited unknown quantities of shit for sale and then they'll go out of stock till who knows when. You need an account to even purchase steam hardware. Not even Apple is that pathetic. They also clearly used steam deck parts for the controller. $100 bucks with no aux port (literally every first party console controller has one(makes it sorta shit for their TV connected steam machine))Valve knows they can release sub-par shit and their fanbase will eat it up.
>>738246918They're spending every spare cent on RAM
>>738244538>you played in the past week that required touchpadin the past week, X4 foundations, Nuclear Option.
>OP with leading question that invokes FOMO for specific productwhy do we unironically allow genuine shill threads here, paid or otherwise?
>>738247223No other manufacturers had to delay or stop production of their hardware.Valve is a multi billion dollar company. And they already implied that any increase in manufacturing cost will be added to the price of the hardware.They're not building anything it seems. What's worse is they're not going to bump up the specs as the delay stacks up. Hell km sure the controller only made it cause they had spare deck parts.
>>738246918on top of >>738247223, which is a good pointthey also had steam controller 1's sitting round gathering dust for years, then sold them at a loss at like $5 each IIRC. Of course they would be more careful with overstocking now, they couldnt know how popular this controller would be.not even major game launches kill their servers like this controller did
>>738234707>22est ist vorbei
>>738228836>no driversI can wait
So what do you all need this controller for anyway?
>>738247365This is undeniably a steam cult board. 80% of threads are steam/pc related.Steam sales, steam charts, those gay hidden steam gem threads.It's worse than shilling, it's a full on cult of personality. Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft fucks up there's 24/7 threads about it.Valve releases the most expensive base controller that doesn't have an aux port AND doesn't work without steam running for 93% of the steam playerbase.Barely a blip.Steamies seethed when helldivers 2 required a free psn login. Yet they'll gladly support hardware that requires an account to even purchase along with software that is required for it to be somewhat functional for the majority of users. On top of that their "solution" is to add your non steam applications you want to use the controller with as exe that STEAM launches. Its clear valve is trying to strong arm pc users on windows to be dependent on steam for everything related to pc gaming. That's why they're making sure; if you're not actively logged into steam you're experience will be terrible. Fucking Zhag Bing from bumfuck China can make a controller that's plug and play with windows and andriod yet valve couldn't be bothered?Fuck off
>>738247656to play dota 2 on the couch.
>>738235621More important than gyro is going beyond the 16-button layout.
gyro is so gay I don’t understand why zoomers love it so much
>>738228836I live in Russia so it was never possible for me to buy it in the first place
>>738228919Dumb fucking retard lmao
>>738247637They'll never be traditional drivers on windows. Valve chose not to include xinput or really ANY other controller API on the controller.They only let it function with steam input which is tied at the hip with steam itself and valve is never going to release it separately because they want you locked to steam.Wild that fucking Sony allows you to use their controller without their app running. Same with Xbox. You don't need the Xbox app installed or running to use you Xbox controller. Valve went out of their way to gimp their $100 controller. Valve is trying to be apple which is probably why they haven't released the steam OS distro for people to install. It's only "supported" on hardware they're releasing.If they truly cared about Linux and FOSS then the steam input API would be open sourced. But instead, you have to inject tons of proprietary closed source shit on Linux to play video games.
>>738247926nigga, literally everything is available on ozon
>>738229818>8shitdolol retard
>>738247759Gyro users are larping, same as touchpad on the controller people are.Only game that actually uses and was designed for gyro was fucking splatoon.No one is winning CoD tournaments using gyro aiming.Makes perfect sense why the number one selling controller for pc doesn't have it, because it's a gimmick. If anything VR replaced any need for gyro in a controller on PC.
Why do people care so much about a controller?
>>738248003Well the Steam Controller obviously isn't, it was only available to buy on Steam for like 20 minutes
>>738247687>snoys are STILL THIS mad about steamkek
>>738228836Once I saw that I was having a hard time paying I added a second onesadly I'm an idiot and I believed valved when they said to wait 1min between tries so I'm part of the second wave
>>738248123holy retardiotheres so much retard here I dont even know which one to point to specifically
Why would I care?My controller works perfectly fineI genuinely don't get why people would want this
>>738248265>snoyfag unloading his whole fapping folder>still not relevant to the actual discussionSnoyfag...
>>738248153Because the hubris of Valve to release this thing without an aux port and reliance on their chromium software for it to function properly.The entire point of PC gaming is freedom of choice. Install the games you want, use whatever input device you want without hassle, etc. In a world where Microsoft and Sony have hardware that's more plug and play than Valve's latest hardware release; something is clearly going wrong.Its a telltale sign of what valve wants. Users to use steam as a desktop environment essentially. Which means locking shit arbitrarily to it.If someone wanted to use the steam machine to play smash remix 64 on windows, they would have to add their emulator to steam as a program.Open steam, launch the emulator, load the rom. And this is for every non steam application you want to use the controller with. Fucking stupid gay bullshit that wasn't needed because there's already API and standards valve could have used. They chose not to because they hate you and want you to be use steam for everything.
>>738248306OK Mr. I use gyro and trackpads. Statistics don't like dumbass. They're niche control schemes especially on PC.Most people would have taken an aux port on the steam controller than fucking gyro.
>>738248397>I genuinely don't get why people would want thisOnly "real" people who want it are steam deck owners who want a familiar control scheme when playing their steam deck docked. And die hard valve fanboys (you know the ones who are buying the outdated steam deck at full price in 2026 (instead of a legion go or rog ally and slapping steam OS/bazzite on it) Everyone else with a brain knows the controller is way too expensive for its touchpad gimmick and is less versatile than a chink controller you can get off Amazon for 40 bucks.
I don’t use controllers with trackpads.
>>738248491holy double dip retard + redditor
>>738245584use your steam deck as a controller?
>>738248491I don't give a fuck about what normies do.Normies would be fine with NES controllers if that was all they knew.
>>738245654NTA, first post ITT. This level of hype for a controller seems surreal to me. Maybe it's because I don't own a current gen console and play exclusively on PC that I don't notice any friction with current gen controllers being not worth their price but none the less this level of hype for a fucking controller is nuts. Feels like I'm in an alternate dimension. I play everything modern on a mouse & keyboard and everything retro on an 8bitdo Pro 3. I can see why there would be some excitement about a controller which actually rivals mouse & keyboard more closely, I respect it having a more consumer friendly interface and better features and build quality, but it's still a -controller- that to me would be a handful of threads over a couple of weeks, not multiple bump limit threads per day like the second coming of Christ. It does smell like cult behavior.
>>738248123>Only game that actually uses and was designed for gyro was fucking splatoon.>No one is winning CoD tournaments using gyro aiming.these two games are fundamentally very similar, gyro would absolutely make a controller user better in cod than no gyro and you know it>no one is winning cod tornaments with gyroright, because mouse and keyboard exist, which is even better than gyro. unlike for splatoon which isnt on PC...>Makes perfect sense why the number one selling controller for pc doesn't have itbecause its old and was one of the first plug n play controllers for PC, that didnt need tinkering or 3rd party support. Times have changed years ago, especially post steam input.>its a gimmickso is analogue triggers. Doesnt change the FACT gyro improves control and aim, and the track pads provide a fast method of selection and, more importantly, allow you to play games that otherwise required a mouse.>if anything VR replaced the need for gyro...in what fucking universe? How are you commenting on the prevelence of trackpads and gyro in game controllers, then using VR in the same argument. Literally fucking no one games normally in VR.>>738248491>Statistics don't like dumbass.those same statistics show VR is dead, but you ignored that.Those statistics dont poll steam deck users use of the trackpads, and you ignore laptop users who regularly use trackpads. kekThe controller should have an aux port though
>>738248123>>738248491>noooo never innovate or do new things!!!!>nooo why arent you still using the controller from 2008?!?!
>>738248967It is a bit much hype, but I really love the Steam Deck controls.Having that on a dedicated controller will be nice.
>>738248709>I don’t use controllers with trackpads Don't worry most people don't either. There's a reason why most games still have controller and mouse/keyboard inputs completely separated in settings. Hell some even ignore keyboard/mouse inputs if you have a controller plugged in. The mouse mode on the joycons 2 are a better implementation of controller inputs plus a pointer. But since valve didn't make it this board doesn't care. The screws holes on the back are probably going to be annoying as well.Its such a badly designed controller for ergonomics.
>>738242568nah.
>bunch of extra buttons that no game ever uses so they end up just being fodder for macros>shitty gyro gimmick that no one uses because it's not the method of aiming or camera control any game ever designs for>shitty touchpads that no one uses because it's a shitty gimmick that no game designs for>marketing point is that they bought replacement sticksI really just don't see the hype, it seems like an uglier, boxier SCUF controller that doesn't work on anything but steam.
>>738249005>gyro would absolutely make a controller user better in cod than no gyro and you know itNah, modern console shooters have such ridiculous levels of auto-aim not even mouse players can beat them. Of course that's just another argument in favor of abandoning that garbage for gyro.
>>738249045>just add useless shit to controllers to jack up the priceLook Sony and Nintendo having gyro makes sense. They make games that USE it. No one is playing fucking csgo with gyro or trackpads.Im glad you retards got your specific use cases out of them but stop pretending the majority of gamers don't own a steam deck or a gyro enabled controller. Even if they own a dualsense guess what the touchpad and gyro are the least used things on there. Because they're perfectly content with standard design.
>>738248967sure but I can point to 2 major factors for it being so hyped>controllers have basically been the same from the major companies for decades, no innovations, no new buttons or functions, sans the switch 2 pro controller being one of the first AAA companies to do back buttons on their default controllergetting a controller that is essentially a steam deck is a big deal because the massive leap in functionality it gives, while im normally on KB+M, if youre a controllernigger then having one that allows you to basically use a laptop-like trackpad is a big deal for PC games, plus all the extra buttons and such are nice to have, other major companies only do this for their over priced premium deluxe ultra controllers, which brings me to>value. This controller costs the same as a dualsense, xbox, or switch pro controller but offers way more value, not just in quality or inputs, but battery and materials too. The ONLY competitor is the switch 2 pro, which has a similar battery and good materialsSony and MS offer cheap plastic tripe and charge $100 for them, to get slightly less bad controllers you need to shell out 100's more. Their controllers are 4~5 hours, light, decay with use, rubber frays, theyre just over-priced.but for years we havent had much choice, 3rd parties exist but theyre also often scams or just as bad.Genuinely it just a good controller that finally pushed the bar up, along with the switch 2 pro, which has other issues on PC.
>>738248419>If someone wanted to use the steam machine to play smash remix 64 on windows, they would have to add their emulator to steam as a programWrong. It works without Steam on Linux.>Open steam, launch the emulator, load the rom. And this is for every non steam application you want to use the controller with. Again, purely a wincuck problem.
>>738249230>No one is playing fucking csgo with gyro or trackpadsI do.Also once again, I don't give a shit what normalfags are doing.
>>738249137Hit the nail on the head. This thing is full of useless gimmicks. Valve could have at least released a game that uses the bullshit. Fuck even Nintendo had that dumb Welcome Tour and Sony had AstroBot.People are also ignoring that the steam controller grips have the lowest clearance gap by far compared to the other 1st party controllers. Wonder if how that's going to turn out. Shit looks mad uncomfortable.
>>738249360It will work without Steam even on Windows because most emulators use SDL which for mainstream controllers completely circumvents shit like xinput anyway.
>>738249163ah, of course, forgot about that can of worms. Not a console-shooter player.I played a lot of splatoon though, not sure why it sunk its teeth into me, but I unashamedly put hours into it. maybe the lack of auto aim made it feel better, more skill means more engagement and all, but also you arent playing with a literal aim bot.
>>738249402Find me ONE csgo tournament where a player on a respectable team is using either of those features.I'm not saying gyro shouldn't be on a controller I'm saying it's usage is overblown and is impractical on PC because you have a fucking mouse.They could have left it out and lowered the price and no one would have cared.
>>738249449>Valve could have at least released a game that uses the bullshit. Fuck even Nintendo had that dumb Welcome Tour and Sony had AstroBot.they did
>>738249230>jack up the priceits the same price, or cheaper, than sony, xbox, and nintendos controllers... with more features...what are you niggering about?
>>738249535I don't watch or give a shit about tournaments. I just play games.>I'm not saying gyro shouldn't be on a controllerSounds a lot like it. You could just ignore these features otherwise. But no, you absolutely have to argue against their existence.>They could have left it out and lowered the price and no one would have cared.I would have cared. And considering all the discourse about gyro it seems I'm not alone in that.
not really since i don't need anything beyond a x360/f310 controller, but i'd like to get one someday just out of curiosity
>>738249449watching snoys circle jerk themselves in this thread is so fucking funnyalso they loved their stupid trigger locking.
>>738228836I don't buy stuff based on FOMO.
>>738247687Console fags are really butthurt about this one
>>738249137>>738249163>>738249230>>738249358>>738249360
>>738248153Valve is entering the console market and trying to be the next Playstation or Xbox. It’s console wars and paid shills.
>>738249470>circumvents shit like xinput anywayI like how overnight xinput went from being a defacto standard that ensure that controllers from all over the world and from the past 25 years work and are plug and play.Games support it by default, 30 dollar Chinese controllers to 200 scuff custom controllers. Hell even fucking fightsticks support it.And all those devices work out of box with windows no additional shit needed.But now that big daddy gaben says he doesn't want to support xinput; NOW its apparently the worst fucking thing since games for windows live. He didn't even bother giving you dumbasses a good reason as to why. You steamies are all the same. A bunch of disingenuous corporate shillsYou retards would stop using WINE if valve declared it so.
>>738249529The funniest thing about Splatoon's gyro aim is that it completely pales in comparison to a decent implementation on PC. Nintendo should really steal the homework of the PC gyro community. They're falling behind resting on their 2015 laurels.
So how long will I have to wait before this piece of shit is available again?
>>738249882Don't worry, I've been shitting on xinput for over a decade. Sorry I believe controllers should maybe possibly offer more than 15 buttons and 6 axis.Btw, your overlords at Microsoft area also in my boat. Xinput is officially deprecated. GameInput is their new standard and it supports *gasp* gyroscopes and other features.
>>738250036I agree, they should offer more, but only if developers will use it.If they don't use it, it's just pointless bulk and worthless nothingness. I don't care if there are 800 degrees of freedom and perfect handtracking if the only thing I can use it in is the fucking menu. It's pointless. I want GAMES. Give me GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMES THAT USE THIS SHIT.GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMES. FUCKING VIDEO GAMES.
>compare all console manufacturer controller options to Valve's offering>steamies start shadow boxing Sony specifically or console gamers in generalSchizophrenic behavior. How how about you retort a fucking post instead of creating boogeymen in your head.Most Idorts are able to see though the unapologetic shilling from the gaben cult.
>>738250104And how are developers supposed to use hardware features that don't exist or that aren't exposed to them due to an outdated, restrictive API?
>>738228836>Do you regret not getting a Steam Controller?Do you take me for a steamie goysloper? That offends me.
>>738249978Already answered in OP.
>>738250131sir do not redeem the steam controller, DO NOT REDEEM
>>738250131>How how about you retort a fucking post instead of creating boogeymen in your head.Ironic considering you're the one not replying to any post.
>>738250036Yeah that's right the new api is supporting new things.Meanwhile steam input requires an account to be created and software running at all times.They could have included a small driver file with the controller to ensure that all its features work. Fuck even a steam controller app would have suffice.Speaking of GameInput they're adding shit from Playstation into it. Funny how easy it is to let shit work when your main goal is to be compatible with anything and everything.Valve needs to respect that Steam is not my operating system despite their valiant efforts to make it the center peice of pc gaming.
Beat part is most people on /v/ will be using this controller on absolute dog shit computers riddled with high DPC latency
Bros, the hype with this controller was because us steam controller 1 owners bought the overflow stock of original controllers for like $25, because why not, and then after using them for a while with steam link realized that the controller was actually god tier for allowing you to play anything couch coop because all buttons were flawlessly customizable and best of all, someone else already created the perfect custom control scheme and uploaded it for you and others to download. After realizing we needed to buy more, it was never sold again. We then spent 10 years talking about how fucking badass the controller was to all our friends, planting the hype seed. Now, we have the updated version following the steam deck format, which is double god tier since we have physical joysticks AND track pads in steam deck format(which is why 4 million people are trying to get the controller for docked play. No more holding the 8bitdo power button and spending 15 seconds moving right analog stick to move the mouse cursor on screen to a mouse only menu on playable compatibility games. This seals the perfection of the deck as a portable vacation game system and casual couch steam access point by fully extending its control scheme to the couch. I'm going to buy the steam controller 2. Ugh, I know, I know, no xinput, its just... IM BUYING IT HAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Bros is anyone on the packaged items part yet when are the sending the thing wtf
>>738250347I would imagine everyone who wants this also wants a Gabecube
>>738250339>Fuck even a steam controller app would have suffice.It's called Steam.>Valve needs to respect that Steam is not my operating systemAnd you need to respect that your operating system is a second class citizen to Valve. They're making that very clear with their push for Linux. You want native support? Use the OS endorsed by the manufacturer. You don't complain about no native support for Dualshock or Nintendo controllers on Windows, do you?
I still use a wired 360 controller. I see no compelling reason to "upgrade" to anything.
>>738250324>Ironic considering you're the one not replying to any post.Because there's this phenomenon, might be an old word filter left over from Moot's days. That whenever you have a sound argument or even a reasonable response to a post. The reply you get ends up like this >>738250294.That along with the>windows>xinput>well I use those niche features so they're popularEtc. Discussing steam/valve related shit on this board is like trying to talk about the Chinese government on weibo.At least some anons agree with me.Its threads like this that make you realize how brown and incorrigible this place has become. It's just steam fourms 2.0 mixed with rage bait south east Asian accounts form X.
I dont know. Do you regret not getting a Steam deck?
>>738247995>They'll never be traditional drivers on windows.Someone will write them soon enough.
>>738250514Suprised you found the post button with that billionaire's hairy stomach in your face and his dick down your throat.
>>738228836i got an order in the first batch of shipments :)
>>738250791How bad is the smell of feces coming from Satya Nutella's brown dick? Feel free to use Microsoft Copilot to answer, I won't read it anyway.
>>738250756You don't know how driver signing works do you?Also the main issue is why the fuck does the 100 dollar controller not come with them?That's the problem with valve cultist like >>738250514 they're completely incapable of thinking independently. It's worse than political discourse at least some of those people have self preservation built in.
>>738250689>Make a dogshit shitpost that showcases you can't read all the while using keywords that only third worlders use>surprised that you only get shitposts back in responseYou are a special kind of retard you know that?
>>738250908>You don't know how driver signing works do you?You don't know userspace drivers exist, do you? How do you think Steam Input works, DS4Windows, Xpadder etc?>Also the main issue is why the fuck does the 100 dollar controller not come with them?Ask Microsoft, They dug this grave.
>>738231758Not understanding a product this simple makes you think it’s bad, but it really just makes you a retard.
>>738250908>You don't know how driver signing works do you?In my experience, unsigned drivers work just fine, you might just get a little warning about it before the install.
>>738250927>shitposters are valid correct to use copypasta if they don't like your post >>738250863>no you suck dick! Time to bail on this thread clearly everyone who is sane is at work now. The mere fact that you are defending literally shit posting jeet calling as a valid discussion metric is absurd. You're the reason why this site is fucking dying a dog's death.
>>738251176You're literally shilling for a corporation with a Jeet as CEO buddy.
>>738228836>goystation stick layoutI shan't.
>>738251176>jeets actually get this mad when you use the do not redeem memekek
>>738251081I'm not disabling security features to play hypervisor denuvo games; nor I'm not disabling them to use a controller either.
>>738251303>NO THIS OPEN SOURCE CONTROLLER DRIVER IS GOING TO BLOW UP MY COMPUTER AND RAPE MY DOGYou're a retard, all these Windows "security features" exist to limit your own use of your own software and hardware for no reason other than profit.
>>738251575Its the principle. I shouldn't have to go through those hoops. No other controller manufacturer requires that bullshit.
>>738228836I have a Dualsense Edge so why would I downgrade?
>>738251626then the controller literally designed around tweaking and customizing it to your liking isn't for you, who could have guessed?
Holy shit pcbros are desperate whore consumers huh They probably just put it on the shelf to impress guests
>>738251691Some steamie's LLM is hallucinating again
LMAO it's gonna restock today, fucking wait and see.
>>738251754sir do not redeem the truth
>>738251704Nah, the shelf is where my beautiful Steam Controller 1 goes.
>>738228836No.I don't even have any reason to buy one to begin with.
Can some justify this things existence to me. I genuinely struggle to see a use for it outside of being a controller for the steam deck.
>>738251704Funny enough compared to controllers that come packed in with the 2 consoles.They have a headphone jack for headsets. Because you'd be on your couch and it's convenient for you.The switch 2 pro controller has it as well. Switch 2 even has a mic for voice built in, dualsense has one as well. Xbox has an expansion port for shit like a chatpad. Yet Valve's controller for their console doesn't have an aux port nor mic. It has no audio pass through at all. Let alone expansion ports for other stuff.Also I bet the fucking controller doesn't even come packaged with the steam machine like consoles have for the past 40 years.They're half assing this whole hardware release while fleeing their dumbass fans.
>>738228836It seems to still be available in EU for me, but I'm not interested because no native xinput support.I'll probably buy one when it goes to clearance sale just to have one.
>>738249065>The mouse mode on the joycons 2 are a better implementation of controller inputs plus a pointer.Holy fuck imagine unironically believing this. This is next level ninten drone shit. Youre telling me that dragging your controller across a surface is a better control scheme than just sitting comfortably with gyro and trackpads. Like imagine unironically doing that on couch gaming holy shit
>>738252119Wow it's almost like the PC has a headphone jack and the console does not, so they compensate by putting a headphone jack on the controller instead, which isn't needed on the steam controller since it's made to be used with a PC!
>>738252119What these controllers really need is an AI assistant that can help you with the game and give you advice in real time
>>738252002It's supposed to be the defacto controller for the steam machine. Thats it.Valve is trying to provide a console like experience without anything people actually like about consoles. No 4kHDR streaming support, no CEC controls, fucking hdmi 2.0 when the 2020 series x and PS5 released with 2.1.The list goes on. It's a shame how garbage valve is able to be while their dick riders lap it up
>>738252183Gyro is for twitchy faggots ripping vapes an energy drinks while shitting blood
>>738252251You see an audio out on this thing?Why can't you invalids ever admit Valve's fuck ups?
I'm still trying to figure out why anyone is buying this controller when Steam Decks aren't even selling on eBay for half their price tag.
>>738252002Use touch pad + gyro for games like Helldivers 2 or Remnant and you'll see why.Imagine being as good at aiming as a kbm while having the maximum comfort of a controller with total customizability.
>>738252394Better than unironically dragging you controller on a couch like a manchild. Literal definition of a basedlet
>>738252405>5 (five) usb ports>bt6 moduleyou can't figure out how to connect headphones to this?
>>738252597>have to buy extra hardware to achieve basic functionalitysteam really is the modern apple, huh? making deliberately inferior products because they know their cultists will gobble them up anyway...
>>738252597Technology must not progress. You WILL use this, and you WILL like it.
I feel like I'm getting carpal tunnel from the way my wrist rests on the desk when I'm using my mouse. What should I get to alleviate it? Should I just get some kinda comfy lap desk to play RTS from the couch?
>>738251626>I shouldn't have to go through those hoops.Then blame the fucking OS holy shit, imagine blaming a controller for microshit problems.
>>738252718how often do you sit right next to your console?
>>738252892I'm not sure how you missed this, but even valve said that this was a pc and not a console.
>>738228836>Doesn't make enough.>Adoption slowed. >Third party support diminished. >Valve doesn't really make much in the way of video games anymore so there's no Nintendo-like allure. Eh? Eh. My Xbox Elite controller does everything I want it to.
>>738251626>all these hoops>Are you sure you want to install this unsigned driver? Y/N>Y>driver installs>ALL THESE HOOPS
>>738245448>I still live in Japan>safe from blacks¿?
>>738252808my gf bought me one of these for christmas, it works pretty well you could probably ghetto rig one with some cushions and a plank or top of desk from ikeai bought a steam controller anyway cause i liked the controls on the 'eck. not sure what i'll do with it, might be nice to play golden idol DLCs without being locked into this contraption
hey guys so if gaben wanted to fuck you in the ass and valve depended on this would you let him
>>738246370>jsut wait for the next version bruh :)
>>738254452forgot to attach image
>>738252327>fucking hdmi 2.0 when the 2020 series x and PS5 released with 2.1You can thank the HDMI Forum for that. They won't allow the amdgpu driver to have 2.1 support in a nonproprietary way because they're scared of it being circumvented easier on Linux
>>738254596Only if he gave me a reach around and a kiss on the neck while saying "I hope it was worth the weight"
>>738228836Artificial scarcity garbageThere's no way these big companies just keep running out of stock that fast every time a new product is released.
>>738254992Yeah this is on the HDMI standard holders. DisplayPort is better anyway.
>>738255162Barely any TVs come with displayports, so that is a problem since this will be bought as a living room machine
>>738247995>Valve is trying to be apple which is probably why they haven't released the steam OS distro for people to install.https://store.steampowered.com/steamos/downloadI run it on my desktop. Just because you cannot buy an epic ayylmaoware laptop with it pre installed does not mean they are gatekeeping it like mac os. You are right about it needing to be open source though, discord spent years talking about how much they love open source and foss projects but never actually was open source and has become just as big corpo jewville niggerhell as the rest. Gabe's death clock is a death clock for the industry.
>>738254843Unironically, yes.
>>738228836Be Frank with me lads.. how many weeks/months am I gonna have to wait until it's back in stock?
>>738256120But this is the next version.
>>738252808Carpal tunnel is aggravated when your wrist in extended. We treat it by giving patients a splint that keeps their wrist in the neutral position while they sleep, allowing the nerves to heal.So whatever you can do to keep your wrist in the neutral position will be beneficial. Whether that's some kind of cushion, or elevation, or new positioning. Just keep the wrist straight.>t. Dr. Faggot
>>738254887this looks like a kid's booster seat
>>738250339>Meanwhile steam input requires an account to be created You need an account to buy the thing at all>and software running at all times.Open task manager and go to the processes tab, be ready to have your mind blown! Also, wait until you find out what drivers are and how they work.
>>738228836Would this be a good time to sell my old, barely used 2015 Steam controller?
>>738252808have you taken the vertical mouse and/or trackball pill yet? if you have no esports aspirations there is no reason to use anything but the most comfortable of peripherals imo
Can’t wait for mine i play multiplayer fps most of the time but this will be a godsend for flight sims and shit where i want a mouse for a moment but don't want to move. Should be really handy in VR too once that fat bastard releases the frame.
>>738249978Year, 2 at most.
>>738256534Yeah
>>738253682>hdmi cec>big picture mode interface>comes with a controller>not a console
>>738256534yeah to me how much
>>738256534they sell for like $80i have 2 in a drawer doing nothingi also have a 2ds xl sitting in a drawer and those are going for like $300 appeerantlytech horders are eating good these years
Got my order in at 10:13am PST so I'm a first wave chad. Has anyone's controller actually shipped yet?
>>738255509>Barely any TVs come with displayports, so that is a problem since this will be bought as a living room machineThen maybe it's time to drop HDMI if it's being controlled by a monopolistic group of people.
>>738230572so you use the controller through Steam which functions exactly as a launcher like on a game console with its own dedicated marketplace like the one game consoles have? So much that even Valve makes their own game consoles that are just Steam preinstalled in fullscreen?
>>738240521these "people" are zoomers that don't know that there are already controllers where you can turn XInput off and on. Nothing prevented Valve from doing the same but they need to dick suck the fat man that ruined PC gaming for everyone
>>738257964unironically yes
>>738256534>i also have a 2ds xl sitting in a drawer and those are going for like $300 appeerantly>tech horders are eating good these yearsI have one of those Sword/Shield Switch Lites unopened in a drawer, are those going for much?
>>738228836i can play all games up to 2020 with a rx 580 and windows 7 and or linuxyou cannot stop me lel
It's over
>>738259218oh gosh oh jeez we sold our entire stock so now we can't even start packaging them oopsies
