>10 minutes of interesting events/writing in a 7 hour game>only 1 term, no payoff for winning>heavily biased towards 'communism good, liberalism bad'It's trash. Utter trash.
HOLY FUARK, A SUZERAIN THREAD ON /v/!When the fuck are they announcing the third game?Also, OP, you're wrong about everything you said and all, but you should still play Rizia. It's better than the main game and though I'm not a chudtard, I roleplayed as one in Rizia to great success. (Monarchy is chuddy, after all)
>>738233754>Also, OP, you're wrong about everything you saidNope.
>solve the bl*dish question>snitch on my asshole neighbors>women's rights? yeah sure honey have fun with the gals *proposal denied*>why settle for lesser candidates when i promise you the moon?had fun with my RADICAL centrist playthroughthough i really dislike there's effectively a route lock-in in the first quarter of the game i thought to doublecross the martial law judge fag but then i just went along with his proposal and got impeached in my first playthrough lmao
>>738234359Bluds did nothing wrong
>>738233669How is the expansion?
>>738234498Better than the main game. Play it.
>>738233669your post upsets me, but i'm gonna reply anyway.suzerain punishes you if you don't stick to your economic policy. if you start free market then turn to communism you're gonna fuck up your economy.it's actually pretty smooth sailing into a second term as long as you stick to a plan or win a war.the rizia DLC allows you to continue your run as a neighboring country. the timespan is longer, taking place before your sord run then catching up to it. you can meet yourself.
>>738233669>communism good, liberalism badWhat's the difference between the two? Libturds are communists
>>738233669The game needs an above average IQ. I think that's the main issue.
>>738237771Retard
Liberalism is retarded, and it's why it spawned another retard baby in communism
>>738238268your point proved moments earlier by>>738237771
>>738233669Only the low IQ don't love Suzerain.>'communism good, liberalism bad'More like >authoritarianism good, liberalism badBeing in the top half of this graph is pretty much smooth sailing, while the bottom half is a pain in the ass. >>738233754>It's better than the main gameNot really, both are just very different stories.>I'm not a chudtardThen why are you playing Suzerain, especially Rizia? t. absolute divine monarchist Romus
>>738237771It's 5am on the east coast why are you awake?
>>738233669>'communism good, liberalism bad'Authoritarianism good, liberalism bad.
>>738237771American moment.
>>738233669>no sugarmommy big breasted empress that supports everything you do routethe most dogshit vn i've ever pretended to play
>>738242454>t.
>>738242068>Then why are you playing Suzerain, especially Rizia?Suzerain allows you to play any way you want, and just like I'm not a mass murderer but still play GTA, I'm not a chud but still play Suzerain Rizia as a chud. Roleplaying is fun.
I played this game once, went full banana republic dictatorship and got killed to death by whatever the big empire is
>>738242567Playing as a non-chud is a miserable experience though, you get walked all over by everyone, your own wife fucks things up for you, the people you try to reconcile with still hate your guts, etc.
>>738242204>a massive, cold, expansionist, evil empire in the northwill never not be cool
>>738242616>your own wife fucks things up for youOh was this the game where you're trying to run a country and your wife keeps demanding you do women's rights shit and giving speeches?
>>738242616I did play as a chud in the main game and as a non-chud in Rizia. And I did win in Rizia and lose in the main game, got fucked over by Not-Russia in my bunker.The game being harder to beat when you're not a chud is cool desuI'll decide my playstyle for the third game based on the lore.
seemed like a shit game and very boring
>>738242650Yes. Funnily enough, I told her to shut the fuck up and get back in the kitchen which eventually led to her saying she was leaving permanently. Then I won the war big time, became a national hero, and suddenly she's right there with me again like nothing had happened (I don't think the game even addressed that at all). Woman moment.>>738242703My only regret of my chud (absolutist divine monarchist) playthrough in Rizia is that capitalist swine Rusty got away before I could behead him. I didn't dislike the guy, it didn't have to be this way, but it was his choice to be an Arcasian spy/asset. Not surprising, him having Arcasian guards was a dead give-away.
>>738242880Just checked it in my libraryThese are the achievements for getting fucking owned, being authoritarian, and breaking up with the wife. Apparently I sucked at this game
>>738242703>I did play as a chud in the main game and as a non-chud in RiziaWait, shit, meant the other way round.I played as a non-chud in the main game and as a chud in Rizia. And I beat Rizia.>>738242880I don't remember what happened to Rusty. Just remember I annexed the two territories.
>>738242637They don't seem to have expanded all that much. All they took in 120 years seems to be Dome from Agnolia, Port Grim which may have been their before and a chunk of Wehlen.What I want to play is some shithole in not Africa because I love building up and larping as small nations trying to develop. Sordland is a shithole that can't even build a highway within reasonable time and Rizia seems to be Saudi Arabia with gold mines and good land.
All we know about the third game so far is this. Pic related is from the game. Maybe the default MC face.Also, these motherfucking developers are biting way more than they can chew.>Still updating the two old games with more content>"Project Fulcrum" in prototype form, "explores themes of power, control, and the decisive moments when both are tested">Pic related, "Project Aperture" in final content stages, "a narrative experience about shedding light on the unseen">Plus The Conformist, Disco Like set in the country from the first game>AND Project Vanguard, currently paused but planned to resume this year once new support is securedCould have just focused on one game, but nooo
>>738243019AIslop portrait
>>738243009>What I want to play is some shithole in not Africa because I love building up and larping as small nations trying to developI was also hoping the third game would be about this. Going from monarchist chud to guy that hates whitey and just recently got rid of slavers and colonizers. Basically taking care of a shithole country that went through a revolution with a ton of internal tension.I don't think that's the direction they're going, though.
>>738243071I've seen accusations that Suzerain Rizia was AI written. Hope that isn't true.
>>738242454You are literally describing being Rumburg's pet in the Rizia expansion.
>>738233669>>738233754>>738234359>>738235879>>738242068>>738242454>>738242574>>738242616>>738242703>>738243019A morgna wes core.
>>738243265Except the empress is a hag and doesn't have big tits
Last I checked the popular theories for the two DLCs they were making were Qinal and Galmlandhttps://suzerain.fandom.com/wiki/Qinalhttps://suzerain.fandom.com/wiki/Galmland
Sorcery > Roadwarden > Suzerain > the rest of this ill-defined genre > Twine fetish porn >>> CoGarbage
>>738243472Isn't Vagrus the same? Or does that have actual gameplay
>>738243435>Qinai>It has a unique status of being the only known non-Merkopan member of the Arcasian Treaty OrganizationYuck.Also Hegel is a fucking faggot. So is N*TO and their Arcasian masters. And fuck the UN too.
>>738243472>CoGarbageHow dare you put them all in the same bucket?
>>738243372
>>738243435I don't know anything about Qinal and that page doesn't really tell me anything.As for Galmland, it being a socialist country would make sense. The first one was in a republic, the second one was in a monarchy.>>738243561>non-MerkopanWhat does that mean again? Been a while.
>>738243472I too like Sorcery! best, especially, part 2 in the city. I would also add Over the Alps to your list as another good one.
>>738243472>SorceryIs that Sorcery! or something else?
>>738243617To our Bludish cousins, you people may come in my Sordland: you may live in the zoo! Hahahaha!
>>738243561If I recall correctly, Hegel and Galmland are enemies
>>738241170>>738239740Prove him wrong>>738242093tr. projecting kike
Can I conquer someone in this game or is it like Tropico where you gotta suck off big empires
>>738243870I don't need to 'prove' that liberalism and communism are competing and completely oppositional ideologies, anyone with access to a dictionary can do that. Americans are the only microbrained country on earth to conflate liberalism with social democracy, and *even then* social democracy is massively different from communism.
>>738243970>competing and completely oppositional ideologiesoh boy I sure voted the red/blue jew this time and it will be different!
>>738243876As Sordland you can get parts of Rumburg if you win the war, but the war itself is automated and you don't get to enjoy the spoils. You only get to piss on the queen before the game ends.As Rizia you can get to fight a war against Pales that is turn based. You also get to need to figure out a way to reclaim the northern part of the country.
Qinal DLC when?
American will insist that social safety net like public healthcare is communism when actual commie like china doesn't have universal healthcare or any other safety net for its populace
>>738244157>As Rizia you can get to fight a war against Pales that is turn based. You also get to need to figure out a way to reclaim the northern part of the country.You don't need the northern part back to win. I took Pales and got a fervent national religious reawakening going which boosted me massively and got me out of the turmoil quagmire despite it being quite high. Still won and was massively celebrated by the populace.You can imagine that Smolak will not be able to hold that territory against a united and motivated Rizia in the near future anyway.
>>738243580Green Journey, Aura Clash and the Infinity games are the only ones worth playing. AC got an update btw, check it out.>https://www.auraclash.com/merchants/aura-clash.html>Username: patron>Password: family
>>738233669You want a similiar game?https://www.nationstates.net/
>>738233669When I played, my character's alignment was on the dead center of that final political alignment and I died fighting the filthy monarchists alongside my most trusted general as a shot the soldiers invading my office.
>>738245968>everyone hates him>diesAverage centrist experience
>>738243645Yeah, made by Inkle, an adaptation of a fighting fantasy gamebook. Shame Fabled Lands adaptation sucks. But the java version is there at least.
>>738248557Everybody is a backstabbing, stubborn asshole. This nation is bound to be conquered and I took the last stance against the invaders.
What's the better choice anons? >Marry Lucita for a male heirOr>Vina
>>738249987>vinalollmao
>>738244852I don't play unfinished games
>>738244819>You can imagine that Smolak will not be able to hold that territory against a united and motivated Rizia in the near future anyway.Holy copeYou failedShould have had proper ops in that territory to fuck with their referendum
I finished it once and it was amazing how the game somehow knew exactly what I was planning and secretly thinking while making choices and somehow made that come true. Never had that happen ever before in a VN or game.The thing I disliked however was me making all the perfect choices for military investment and then not being able to defend myself against the huge empire. They shouldn't have all of these military choices in the game if it doesn't matter at the end anyway.Still a good game and I wonder if the DLC is better in this aspect or if some play styles they hint towards are still unviable.
>>738249987What do you think? Vina will sell out the country and turn it into a progressive democratic shithole just to import niggers from Arcasia and ride the diversity cock carousel.
>>738233669>communism good, liberalism badIt's not though. Socialist run drains your budget and risks debt crisis and capital flight (unless you know how to prevent it) which tank your economy. Capitalist run gives you free money and still boosts the economy.
>>738233669I played it for a few hours. I fixed the entire economy, but then I failed to push some law so everyone betrayed me and they sent me to jail. No reloads.Didn't feel like replaying all over again.
>>738253514Vina can be reformed into a better monarch if you gatekeep, gaslight and girlboss her.Also her reformist faggot love interest will become a nationalist if you send him to fight with Pales and the Sazon levies survive.What did they mean by this?
I recommend "the life and suffering of sir brante" to anyone that liked suzerein.
>>738252562Suzerain is not finished either.
>>738233669I really wanted to like the game as I enjoyed the writing a lot, but just felt the game does a terrible job at giving you the information you need to make decisions.On the economy in particular, there's zero information on how your budget works. Without trial and error over multiple playthroughs, I don't understand how you're supposed to decide what to spend money on/how much to spend, because it never tells you when you can expect more money to come.You make decisions that would have a pronounced effect on the economy like adjusting taxes, infrastructure projects, budget setting, but there's no forecasts to show what any of it might deliver?I'd be totally fine with the forecasts turning out to be inaccurate, but I ended up playing what I thought was quite conservative economic policy and running out of money halfway through the game because I had no idea the spending money I had from the first turn basically never goes up again.I dropped the game because I decided to go all in on electoral reform given everything else had failed, only to lose that vote because I got stabbed in the back.I reloaded several times to try different negotiations ahead of the vote and changing my promises to the other groups in the party etc, only to find none of it made any difference to the end result. Looked up a walkthrough and found the only way you can win that vote is by bribing people with your personal funds, which never even came up as an option for me because I spent the 2 units of personal funds I had throughout the entire game on other stuff.I think the team has a lot of potential - the writing and worldbuilding was very good, but I just thought the execution was pretty bad because the game's systems are so obscure and unexplained.
>>738233669Rizia campaign was more fun. At least you weren't stuck with a feminist wife and a broken political system. Just a regarded daughter that you could ignore and not face any consequences. Monarchy is simply more fun even if it is easy once you know what's coming.
>>738256012it ain't half-bad writing-wise, but every single mechanical aspect is just impressively dogshit, which should tell you just how bad it is>you get a big fat HERE ARE THE STAT REQUIREMENTS cheat sheet at the start of each chapter>that's because stats that aren't dedicated to your route are effectively useless, and stats that are have really awful breakpoints>which means every other choice is strictly tied to stat thresholds so there's effectively zero roleplaying due to all the conditions and effects>but even if you pass the conditions some choices are arbitrarily route-locked i was so fucking mad that i couldn't duel the blueblood fag as a reformist noble in act 3 holy shit what was the point of 20 combat eventhese issues are compounded by the fact that the devs didn't bother to copy renpy and so you got no instant text/skip option and the replays are tedious as fuck
>>738257880There is literally nothing wrong with women's rights.
I've tried playing this several times but I'm not politically brained enough to understand things. Like forcing people in a country to all speak the same language is bad? Like what dude. I need a Clippy in the corner to dumb down events for me.
>>738258994Gameplay wise? It's not.In real life...
>>738259458I'd argue there isn't actually very much to understand with the information presented to you, because so much of it is virtually meaningless.When you come to set the budget for each department, all the Ministers are basically like 'you need to give me all the money or this country is dead, don't you dare cut my budget or the blood of every (soldier/child/patient/worker) is on your hands'.That's fine, I understand they are going to lobby for their own interests, but there's never any factual information really - 'i'm going to spend the money on a program for schools in rural communities'. Ok - how much of our voter base is in rural communities? If I keep the budget frozen, can you get by for a year? If I cut it, how is that expected to effect the employment rate? Silence.I appreciate in an indie game like this you can't go into that level of detail, but I found it quite infuriating how vague everything is and how there's no stats to back anything up.All you have is an arbitrary ECONOMY line graph that goes up and down without clear reason, and an arbitrary BUDGET number with no information about income and outgoings.I sold the gas company early while the price wasn't favourable because our debt was way too high and it wasn't really viable to hold on in case the situation improved - the result was that I got literally nothing because apparently we sold at a loss, but the game didn't tell me that before I made the decision, just 'it could get better'. Obviously I wouldn't have sold if I knew I was literally going to get nothing.
>>738258994Womens rights is just an excuse to not have kids.
>>738243472>>738243580>>738244852Based orcGOD>>738248557Kek
>>738243472>CoGarbageWhat's CoG?
>>738262537Choice of Games. Text based choice of games that are all very queer. Some of them are pretty decent, though. I like to play them on the shitter.
>>738233669True....Theres some pretty bad bias towards the election results. You can ban the NFP and deny them their policy proposals and they can still gain a shit ton of the vote because you didnt pass twitter brain policies. Its sad, despite being a pretty solid game in terms of structure, it fails at execution.
I disliked the part where the Invisible Hand of the Free Market will randomly fuck you over if you don't have liberal economic policyspend too much? there's a crisis spend too little? yep, there's an opposite crisis on the same dayyou have to be ~fiscally responsible~ even though for all intents and purposes Sordland has full control of all production chains required for all the industrial and infrastructure projects I set in motion, as well as the labor and expertise required for them. My first playthrough ended up with>full quality healthcare>full quality education>state owned companies>Bluds successfully integrated>several mega infrastructure projects completeand yet there was a 25% unemployment rate lol. Who the fuck built all these hospitals, roads, train tracks and schools? Who the fuck made the materials for that construction? Who's employed in these buildings that are operating optimally? What the fuck?I really appreciate the attempt to make a game like this and I do admit I just don't have the political skills to navigate the cesspool of liberalism and conservatism that plagued Sordland, but the economic side of the game is so weird. You really should have a more detailed map of what Sordland can and cannot produce, in what amounts, and what expertise you may or may not have available for certain projects.
>>738261620absolutely, this frustrated me too. This extends to trying to get votes for your constitutional reform(IIRC), where you can't tell how big the sphere of influence of a particular politician is. Maybe I'll tell my wife to take a hike so the conservative politician stays on my side, but it obviously depends on how many votes that guy effectively commands.When I checked the guides after beating the game, turns out that there's a bunch of weird megaproject combos that boost your economy way more than they were supposed to, and projects that synergize negatively. It's be pretty cool to have someone at least hint at that, it feels like a half assed attempt to make the game's economy and industry feel more complex.
>>738264568Even if the outcomes of many of the decisions are purposefully unclear, the game really needed a log where you can see the impact of your decisions. A lot of them give you some idea with flavour text in a follow-up event, but I'd say the majority of decisions I made ended up being extremely unclear what their consequences were.Sadly I think it's because the game doesn't really operate on any statistical basis or even much logic - it feels like it was more planned as a choose your own adventure game with a veneer of political themes painted over it, so all the outcomes are just based on where the writers wanted the narrative to go, as opposed to any grounding in actual gameplay systems.
>>738257880dont you have to deal with a literal girlboss military general on the year of our lord 1950?
>>738265118yeah, the political economy simulation isn't really there at all. Can't blame them, it's a very complex thing to implement.Props to them though, when I checked the guides I was amazed at how many little changes and outcome variations there are.
>>738264568>Using infrastructure projects to drive up employmentEconomically retarded bros.......
>>738264915Yeah I mentioned in an above post the constitutional reform bit made me drop the game and roleplay resigning and calling a snap election lol.I thought I was a political genius by cutting it really fine between all the wings of my party in the negotiations before the vote - everyone being like 'you're a hard negotiator, but I'm going to back you' - then the actual vote happens and I lose by a considerable margin, yet it's not explained who decided to vote against me or why. Constitutional reform was my primary mandate, so anyone from the party would have known that backstabbing me on it would mean we wouldn't win the next election without a complete miracle.What really made me give up on the game was reloading my previous save before those negotiations, trying every different outcome of making promises to various people etc, only to discover it was all just flavour text - it literally had no bearing on the voting numbers, it was the same no matter which options I'd selected. Turned out you needed to apparently bribe people using your personal wealth, but I'd never been given the option as I had already spent the 2 units of personal wealth I ever had, naively assuming I'd get a salary or something and that wouldn't be all I had to work with for 2/3 of the game.
>>738265521I was poor as dirt in my first playthrough too. You need to accept bribes(even if you don't follow through on them) to pass them along and get some shit done.
>>738265521>Turned out you needed to apparently bribe people using your personal wealthIt's called lobbying.
>>738265797Yeah, it just circles back to the fact the game does a terrible job of giving you enough information to make spending decisions sadly.Obviously I wouldn't have given my driver the money to pay for his kids' schooling if I knew that was 1 out of 2 of all the units of personal wealth I'd have for next 2/3 of the game.Obviously I wouldn't have tried to be a moderate by balancing investment against keeping debt as low as possible if I knew that I'd get 2/3 of the way through the game and only get about +5 extra units of budget in total, which you could easily spend in one turn.The devs did a great job creating the world, but i do feel they bit off far more than they could chew unfortunately.
>>73826605Yeah but it felt like a kick in the teeth given the game didn't even give me the opportunity to do so as it was never clear about what your personal wealth is actually for. I went for the lower investment number with the US-style company and gave the other unit to my driver - got nothing back from either outcome and so that was me stuffed for the first 2/3 of the game on the personal wealth front, never got anymore. No way I could have known what I was missing out on, no way I could have known I'd never get any additional funds.
>>738266371oh, I'm reminded about checking guides and finding out that the best ending(politically and economically I mean) pretty much requires you to have a specific origin so you can start with more cash to bribe people with.Personally, my first ending had me impeached and the police was sent after me, but I managed to do a ton of good for the country and the border guard let me pass because his family was saved by my policies and I ended up an accomplished author.
>Accomplish all the goals you set out to do in first playthrough and get good ending. Felt good, mang. I was massively in debt near the end, but the assembly actually saved my ass and the economy recovered.
>>738257880Playing chicken with Lespia and winning every time was a highlight of Rizia. Getting kicked out of GRACE even though I was winning the monarchy game just because I got a bunch of vassals was the second highlight. Fuck the old bitch its a new kingdoms time to rise.
>>738242454Problem with the bitch is that the second you do better than her she kicks you out of GRACE. Even if you personally ensure the kike princes win the second you are a real threat she betrays you.
>>738233754I really want the third game to step back in the time period when shit was really popping off.
>>738233669>Oh Suzerain thread>Op is complaining about communism>Half the thread is "chud chud chud"Cool.
>>738243019Honestly if they are just mostly working in the same engine its doable. Most of the game is art and text. The step up from Sordland to Rizia shows this.
>>738265158>girlbossShe is just filling in for her father who has been confined to the hospital. She also willingly hands him back control when the war starts. She is one of the few women in the game who aren't bitches.She also wants the dick.
>>738255390>Sazon levies>Not taking full control of the government and militaryI will never understand people that let the houses stick around. Forcing them to sign their land and rights away at gunpoint was one of the best scenes in the game.
>>738268837I thought that was commit national suicide button. Does it fuck over all of the houses and leave your standing or can you pick and choose?
>>738268837>I will never understand people that let the houses stick aroundI kept Azaros so that I could name my son the heir to the holy theocracy instead of my libtard daughter.
>>738268703She's the one that false flagged the Pales incident that almost makes Rizia go to war. She's a based retard and better as a wife than as a military advisor.
>>738269286You have to manage it but there are two ways to do it. The capitalist way where you just use mercs to enforce it and the best way a pure monarchist run. You have to play the houses against each other while giving them each just enough to think that you are on their side. Then at the end during your mothers birthday you escort them into a side room and your golden bro forces them to give everything up to you.A pure monarchist run where you conquer Pales and take back Zille without giving up your mothers home is seriously one of the most satisfying endings I've ever got in a game.
>>738269379Wife so thoughtful she even makes a false flag for a war I was planning?
>>738269379>he fell for Lespian psyopThe incident only happens if you screw over Lespia by buying the entire gas field. And the international investigation that finds her guilty had Lespian detectives on it.
>>738269793>going to war and killing hundreds of thousands of your own people (Pales is rightful Rizian clay)>when you can just make your girlboss daughter marry the rich and handsome gigachad that turns her into a tradwifeThis is how monarchy should work.
>>738233669>heavily biased towards 'communism good, liberalism bad'The fuck are you talking about?
>>738270209he didn't play the game, socialism in sordland sucks cock
>>738233669I tried 2 times to effectively play an upstart natsoc but I tanked the economy and lost against rumburg both times. I don't fucking get how to win this game beyond doing the boring normie route.
>>738270068Those Lespian dogs need to be thought a lesson in humility. And their puppet needs to be given a bitch slap for becoming a puppet of a country that would embargo him in a heartbeat if enough money and alcohol was involved.
>>738270362>lost against rumburg both times.There is a fuckload of specific things you need to do to win, don't even try without a guide lol
>>738233669>game where you can control the government>the government-controlled economy is strongYou don't fucking say????
>>738270595>Those Lespian dogs need to be thought a lesson in humility.Fucking this. Cucking them out of Morella is so satisfying. Even better when he literally says that you don't get to win in Pales now and you winning anyways. I wish there was more scenes of Lespia seething in this game.
>>738243019What is the next games country gonna be? We've had a republic/dictatorship and a monarchy, what's left?
>>738257880>regarded
>>738270362There are multiple ways to deal with Rumburg. The easiest is to just give them some pity money. Admit some warcrimes and get back to making Sordland great again.
>>738237771total amerinigger death
>>738270595The Lesbians are getting humiliated enough in a good Rizia playthrough though:>Pales reunites with Rizia, the billions Lesbians spent go directly into your pocket>Lesbians lose the biggest natural gas deposit in Merkopa and if you bought it directly from Axel and he marries Vina, the money is basically back in your family's pocket>You can cuck them out of the MITZ, no more free gold from them>You can humiliate Lesbians by telling the world that they were behind the Wehlen incident>You can blackmail the Lesbians with the same information and they give up their best asset in Rizia (Rusty)>You can form the Intermerkopum and basically become the 4th biggest power bloc in the world, right near them>A Rizia with overwhelming military power projection is basically on par if not even stronger military than Lesbia>A Rizia with good living standards is a better place to live than Lesbia>A Rizia with the Aureus field has a better energy supply than LesbiaTLD. Total. Lesbian. Death.
>>738268837Abolishing the houses when your wife is part of a house is a bad idea innitUnless you're a butler-shagging homo who doesn't like lucita
>>738271176>Abolishing the houses when your wife is part of a house is a bad idea innitIf you purge the Azaros she has a miscarriage from the stress.If you take away all her powers without centralizing the military she will coup you.As long as you make your son with her the heir and not kill her family of course she will be fine with anything you do.
>>738270967Probably either Qinal (NATO member) or Galmland (commie republic).
>>738271176Yeah you gotta give up on her. Which I was fine with. I had a successor she its not like I needed her. Completely worth it to come out completely on top and pumping out a navy that scares the fuck out of Valgsland. Requisitioning aircraft carriers is GOAT.
>>738271698And how exactly would either of those be different from Sordland
>>738271738>I had a successorBut is she a good successor?
>>738243009>What I want to play is some shithole in not AfricaIdi Amin Simulator
>>738271764It's going to be Qinal and it will be different from Sordland since it's actually not a shithole.
When I was playing this, I brought the country to an economic crisis, jailed the opposition, and died in a shootout in my office. It seems my son also became a communist.I blame my wife and Petr for everything.
>>738242650>>738242880>I told her to shut the fuck up and get back in the kitchen which eventually led to her saying she was leaving permanently. The correct approach is to let her embarass herself publicly but then defend her afterwards. You don't have to pass the Women's Liberation Act, just gaslight her. This way you'll both solve the feminist question and still keep a loving wife.
>>738271994>loving
>>738271836She is when her distractions are dealt with and she is properly raised at your side in court. You just have to keep reminding her of her hero and she turns out good.
I'm a Paradoxfag and -sperg. Please sell me this game. Is it like a visual novel/CYOA, but you're playing as the head of state of a fictional nationstate?Also, what countries/cultures are fictionalized in this game?
Just give women rights it helps the economy and it might just get you reelected.
>>738244664China is for all purposes a national socialist country that LARPs as commies because they don't want to admit that Mao was a retard. America spends 25% of its budget on public healthcare. You don't know what you're talking about.
>>738271994How about I don't allow the bitch to use MY popularity, effort, and platform to push poisonous ideologies to millions of Sordish women? >>738272213You play as the prime minister of 1950s notTurkey. You have a k*rd problem, there's a notSyria with notAssad next to you, there's a whole lot of faggot N*TO countries and faggot Pact countries that want to push their flavor of homo onto you, and a monarchy led by a woman who is having a woman moment (not to be confused with the based monarchy you play as in the DLC).
>Making effort to add more terms to my reign through persuasion and deception.>First term ends>Game overWow
>>738272213Yes, in the Sordland campaign you play as the president of a republic, it's supposed to be something like Turkey after the 2nd world war.In the expansion you play as Rizia, a monarchy, no idea what real life example I could give you since the country is pretty unique.
>>738272232>creates a bunch of bullshit jobs to make women work instead of taking care of children>this skyrockets the GDP because OnlyFans is valued at over $3bn>meanwhile, the birthrates
What's the gameplay like anyway? Is it like a VN?
All the criticisms here about the economy are valid, but the game is so good despite the flaws. It's ok if some stuff becomes trial and error. It's the best political sim around that isn't a GSG style game (Which themselves have their own problems)
>>738272520Birthrates go down not because women go to work but because the economy is shit and wagies get paid peanuts.
>>738272232I care about the future of my country, not just the next election.
>>738237771One is an extreme form of the other taken to its logical conclusion, you are free to do whatever you want, as long it is to work like a slave and sustain the demonic "democratic" system. At least communist, the good ones, if there anything of that, don't lie to you. In the end, post Napoleonic trash that has been a cancer to humanity ever since.
>>738272529It's a visual novel with small touches of resource management and strategy (in the DLC).
Also, I feel like a lot of people criticizing didn't try Rizia. I think Rizia is better realized (Because it's in an easier setting where you're the king)
>>738272603>women enter workforce >workforce is now doubledWhat do you think happens to the wages then?
>>738272632>the future of the countryWomen will still get their free rights eventually, might as well be the one to do it. You want a good future for the country? Do all you can to be reelected.
>>738272698This is an argument kikes use as to why they can't pay their workers living wages.
>>738272580The thing I like the most is that it's not some retarded basedboy's idea of politics that he got from watching Marvel movies. I liked how censoring and controlling media actually worked just like it does in real life, instead of some gay>uhm yikerinos you can't limit people's freedom or they will revolt!>>738272603Aside from >>738272698, if that were true you could just look at fertility rates for higher income brackets and see a higher rate. That is not the case, in fact it's the opposite. European countries have tried generous parental leaves (a whole year in mine, in fact) as well as tax reductions or outright lump sums when having kids, nothing worked.>>738272706I was a turbochud who told my wife to go back to the kitchen and I got both the re-election and kept the wife. You do not need to give women anything.
>>738271698Anon... Come on now. I know that it's a meme to say that socialism = communism. But when it's about Suzerain, it'd pay to be clear.An actual communist country could be kino to play. Galmland is just boring socialist parliament shit.
>>738272213If you like vic 3 you'll love this game. There's a lot of political details that are fun to read as well as meaningful policy decisions that feel good to think over. No, it's not supposed to be a perfect economy simulator, but i think it combines storytelling with policy decisionmaking well in a 1950s setting.
Yeah, Galmland is Mini-Scandinavia, basically. (Not to be confused with Valgsland: Big cock Scandinavia)
>You have a wife and children game startIn every game that happens I immediately get frustrated because I know that as the game progresses, they will constantly demand some stupid bullshit from me that will hinder me from achieving my goals, and in the end, the game will either laugh at me because I'm a chud and lost my family, or because I saved my family, but now everything I worked for lies in ruins, unless I'm playing for the third time and know all the min-max strategies for achieving the best results.
>>738264568>Hand of the Free MarketI always just assumed the cutthroat capitalists were ignoring paying taxes and pilfering your investments into big infrastructure projects to pocket most of that cash. Let none forget that Ewalds right hand man was this guy who has all the bright ideas but then tries to turn Rizia into his own private beach house. He also tries to sell you a treaty on unfair terms and calls your finance minister a harlot when she's actually pretty good.
Is it possible for this guy to not get mad at you?
>>738271764Qinal could have it be about trying to form coalitions, like the European countries where no party ever wins alone.
>>738270362If you lost you didn't try hard enough, If you ally Wehlen and Agnolia and increase military spending, the war is as good as won. You do have to prep for it early though (like building up the railroad network in the infrastructure projects) Many little things like that.
>>738273542Two options1. Be his bitchboy and do everything he says and you can be his puppet leader2. Fuck him over first but gain enough respect later that he comes to help you in the war
>>738273542It's kinda funny how he calls you a tyrant when all you wanna do is be him but better. "muh constitution is literally perfect" fucking boomer
>>738273542Yeah I did nr2 in >>738273940>>738274018Also this, you can out-chud him and he's not happy about it. Little did he know this wasn't even my full power, just what the game allowed me to.
>>738272520>make women work instead of taking care of childrenThis is the real problem with society. Childrearing is a job. Everything taken together (pregnancy, breastfeeding, teaching, socialising, cooking, cleaning, etc) is a full time job. But people treat it like an undignified chore and a distraction from real achievement. Both conservatards and libtards are guilty of this. A full-time mother should be paid full-time wages by the state, and she should be given the respect she deserves for doing the most important job in the world, without which nobody would be alive.
>>738273940He came to help me in the war and we still fucking lost. I don't think he gives any useful advice at all, it's just that your generals are starting to larp about how their morale has improved.
>>738274240Women were paid wages by their husbands, not daddy goverment. Fuck goverment giving gibs to foids for doing their basic biological directive.
I had no idea Sol could help you in the war the fuck
>>738274713How do you expect foids to fulfil their basic biological directive when they're broke as shit?
>>738274808By returning to the 1950's and killing jews.
>>738274808The same way they did for thousands of years?
>>738253054Military investments do matter, but so do alliances, the state of the economy, tactical choices. It's in a way one of the biggest ultimate skill checks of the game.
>>738273931I did ally them both the second time. I increased military spending, kept conscripts to keep the army big, and still lost. Like another anon said, you need to big very specific things to win.
>>738275140I have never used a guide and won most wars. It's possible you chose the wrong strategy or battle plan for what you put money into. I don't remember well but I know there's the attrition guy that requires a massive army and a specific defensive plan and the modern military general that's all about encirclements and blickrieg. You gotta build for a specific plan in mind. Also it's really easy to win if you ally Lespia but that means being their bitch.
>>738274240Yeah and without a man to fight off the wolves the woman and the children get torn apart. No, women should not get any special treatment for doing the one thing they're supposed to do in life, it's just what's expected of them like men don't need constant validation for going to work.
Ah time for another Suzerain playthrough!I think the best thing this game does is politics with actual people in it, rather than just stats and sliders.
>>738275587Men get paid a salary for going to work. Like women should get paid for working. I know you won't have any problems because you have naturally only experienced the masculine and pure homosexual love.
>>738276132I know you're retarded but here's a fun fact for ya. Women, despite earning less than men, spend around 70% of all wealth in the west. Why do you suppose that is?
>>738237771You're confused because you think words have inherent meaning (which they should), when in the real world people just use positive terms for themselves and negative ones for their opponents, without giving a fuck what they actually mean. Therefore you have liberals who want the nanny state to regulate the fuck out of everything and liberals who think that people should be free to do what they want with their companies.
>>738272847The problem is that those "options" don't fucking work. Tax exemptions only factor once a year so the intervening time is still fucked. One year off for the kid is nice but does not help for the other 17 years. Lump sums don't work because they get destroyed by one bad slump or unexpected medical bill.The shit that works they don't want to do because its a continuous expense that they have to match inflation with. Free childcare, free food, monthly payments. If they wont fix the economy they need to look at children like a resource they have to husband and that means they have to consistently keep paying for them.
>>738233669Why do they have a Heliport in the olden times?
>>738277796Money doesn't fix it, get it through your skull. The poorest nations are having the most kids while the richest ones are having the fewest. Higher income brackets that can clean their ass with dollar bills have fewer kids than retarded inbreds on welfare or working part time at min wage. At best you could bankrupt the country to make having children a lucrative career, in which case you'd get a bunch of shithead parents having as many kids as possible then fucking off to Bali to waste all the money while leaving the kids with the cheapest nanny they could find and raising a generation of mentally ill maniacs.Look at the hard data, the only thing that maps to fertility is female education, female security, and female rights. It maps INVERSELY to all of those and it's not linear, even a bit of that is lethal to fertility rates. We can grandstand about human rights, equality, freedom, and whatnot all day, but at the end of the day those that do so will simply die out and be replaced by those that don't. Doesn't matter how right, powerful, or morally righteous you are, a monkey with a stick that breeds will outlive you and win in the long run.
>>738278119Solution. Vats.
