What went wrong?
>>738242725taygedo.also cant believe fadia is supposed to be midnight and mint is ragdoll
>>738242725Gacha trash
>>738242725it's just boring. the gacha itself is much more generous than other games, but i'm just... bored
they forgot you need appealing characters for your gacha to sell still better than Endfield, WuWa, or any Mihomo slop
>>738242920>>738242725There are too many gachas on the market right now.How can people deal with all that shit?
can't date the shota
>>738242725>need around 14k for a full pity roll>barely 4k and I've been playing nonstopoh god this isn't one of those stingy gaccha is it?
>>738243238He fell for it again
>>738243135almost all of them are bad so it's easy to try a new one whenever it comes out
>>738242725Wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle. It tries to do a lot of things; racing, horror, job sim, homemaker, dating sim, fishing, etc, but it doesn't do any of them well enough to be good.
>>738243467But you still have to do dailies for some you actually like.How many gachas can people afford to "play"?
>>738244032it depends on the game, I did up to 3 at a time without much issue but none of them were 3D gacha so I didn't have to waste time like running around and shit, now I just do onethere were a couple gacha that I thought were neat but actually stopped playing early because I knew the dailies would take too much time(usually the ones that force "gameplay" on you but the gameplay is 10 times worse than a real game within the same genre)
>combat simpler than Genshin>driving is worse than the 1st Watch Dogs>designs aren't that good>stingy as fuck
>>738242769We could've had a main quest about dating Mint.Instead we have to waste time with gaypedo with his discord kitten bullshit.
>>738244404That's because they probably know people always skip the main story in gacha games.
>>738242725Budget is 25 million and they made 70 million in a day they are doing fine
>>738244761I don't skip story in nikke though
Yet another game trying to copy genshit without any of the stuff that made genshin good
>>738242725Too many shitty mascots and kids, that's my main gripe with the game.
>>738245165Except there's nothing good about genshin, literally dropped it 3 times in the first hours
>>738245407The game would be vastly improved with a skip button. I wonder how much money they've lost out from both returning and new players because people don't wanna slog through 1000s of hours of dialouge
>>738245496Don't care of the dialogue, game just plays and looks terrible, even Tower of Fantasy mogs that slop
>>738245543It was good a few years ago but now it feels dated. the problem is nobody has innovated or really tried anything new. they saw the success and said "we're gonna copy that for the next 10 years".
>>738243238I'm already at pity you just need to play more
>>738242725shitty combat like wuwa but even clunkieri'd unironically play it every day if it had better combat
>>738245671>gacha>good combatLolNever gonna happen
>>738245874zzz and genshin have decent combatnot the best but it's fun if you're not underpowered or overpowered
>zzz>you mash one button
>>738245874Wuwa's combat against endgame bosses is outstanding.
Need to see what the summer swimsuit skins will look like before I can determine if it's a flop or not.
>>738246019in the tutorial, then you mash 6 + directional keys if you want to clear endgame
I like the tone of it. It's like a mix between Persona 3, Scarlet Nexus and some modern urban anime. You choose for me Anon, Tokyo Ghoul? I dunno.
I just think Wuthering Waves is at the peak of the entire gacha genre right now.The story beats and scenes in the game are so good that it's just destroying other gacha games. So while other and new games are going through their 1.X phases, Wuthering Waves is over here fighting mecha in space with all the musical stings and DmC combat odes and so on.It reminds me of XIV's Shadowbringers, where it's like, you can play that or you can play some Korean MMO that just launched and is finding its footing.
>>738246447Complete and utter delusion in it's purest form. Wuwafags might just beat Hoyofags at this.
>>738246447put the trip back on so my filter can work lil seafag
>>738243908Probably this. It's wide enough that I'm still being entertained a little everyday, though all I do is do maybe two quests, fight whatever vending machines I run past, and drive around a little listening to the rain. It can be quite chill. I still don't know what the dailies or endgame of this game are, and frankly I don't care.
SUNSHINE AFTER THE WAYNE
>>738242725>What went wrong?>Another gacha full of nigger asses because they need to pander to blacks and americans, which in turn makes it flop in chinaKek they copied zzz including the reason it flopped and it ended up flopping as well
>>738246548Man, there's been like 5 patches in Wuwa that have these 10/10 moments in the last year alone.If you go play Arknights, you're in Wuling making pipes.ZZZ has solid combat but doesn't know what it's doing with the story, removed all TV sections.Genshin is hanging around.Star Rail is up and down constantly.Then you have your lighter entries like Exilium and Nikke which don't have the same grandeur as the 3D titles.If someone in this thread thinks Wuthering Waves isn't the best 3D gacha currently, I'd be very surprised. And someone who plays all of them like myself, not fucking 'I played 2 hours and didn't click" shit.
AI slop.
>>738242725pander to yuri crowd
>>738242725The combat sucks ass. There’s no point to grind and doing dailies if that shitty combat is what you’re aiming to build your characters for
>>738246621Turning syuen into my personal onahole nikke
They need to expand the dating
>>738246894What's the point of dating in a non-h game?
>>738242725nothing i want to have sex with her
>>738247009Hand-holding and hugs and kisses, which are superior to sexslop in every way
>>738242725Mint and FMC are the only good designs
>>738247121Nice cope
>>738247121Nice truth
>>738247121>>738246894youre a troon
>>738247371Don't say such things about yourself!
>>738247009What's the point of having girls in non-h games in the first place?
>>738242725How the fuck do you get annulith after you beat all the chapters without paying?
>>738247136No, the best design is indisputably Lacrimosa, even though the red jacket is fucking stupid
>>738242725Nothing really went wrong but also nothing really went right
>>738246630Ngl sounds like a chill game if you only ever want to play like 30min-1hour a day
>>738246630>I still don't know what the dailies or endgame of this game are, and frankly I don't careretard
>>738247453You can at least look at their sexy bodies and stuff.Dating never ends up with sex in non h games
>>738242725Too generic.
>>738247602so literal blueballing waste of time
Any good art of Mint's giant tits yet. She's got a lot of competition. However that first person view is great and really puts it into perspective.
>>738247601Didn't ask!
How long until this game gets some poopdick tripfag that ruins every thread thereafter
>>738245991>zzz and genshin have decent combatlollmao even
>>738247840I can provide sloppa
>>738247872Shin already latched on in the release thread, but he's been fairly inactive since
>>738248049cat milkuuuuuuuuu
>>738245084its really strange how if it wasnt a gacha game, it would probably not even break 500k sales, people genuinely just want some kind of gambling timesink in their lives even in a period of time where there's already so many to choose from, and that people will just play the latest one like it's any other major AAA release with no regard for whether it's actually good or fits into their tastes
>>738248246The future is gachas
>>738248129>wuwa schizoI thought wuwa is better than this game take your niggers away from my nte
>>738242725gachatrannyslop
I shall wait for she then make up my mind
How’s the story? That’s all that matters with JRPGs.
>>738246759Have not played Wuva in a while since the god awful 3.0 patch. But I am guessing I can predict all of these "hype" moments from the game.Sad banner character takes you to sad place and something happens and you and banner character go fix that bad thing - with a flashy cutscene and dramatic music that solves the problem of said banner character or leaves said banner character in a ambigious state that need no further elaboration.The only two characters that have any meaningful interaction in this patch was the main character and the banner character. The banner character then disappears completely or gets a cameo in the next patch. The next patch is the same, but with new banner character.
>>738249232It's not a JRPG and the main story is alright, the side quests are better.
>>738249232It's comfy.If you're looking for wuwa 2.0 this is not it.
>>738249594I'm looking for ToF 2.0 actually
>>738249630The fuck does that mean?Never played tof.
>>738249232its the konosuba of gachas, better than the usual chinkslop writing they usually have
>>738242725It seems to be doing pretty good. Another Genshin clone - but atleast a novel take on it.I assume its probably going to steal the spot of endfield and wuva for the next couple of years.
>>738249232It's a generic battle harem anime story in an urban fantasy setting. Kinda like Persona.
>tower of fantasy devsI thought tof was awful, so we’ll see what the team has learned over the years.
The story is "meh" until chapter 4, where it takes a nosedive and becomes infuriatingly bad, making you run across a huge mansion for what feels like a whole hour (skipping some of it) without telling you anything of note aside from "there is an anomaly that grants immortality and there's le evil group that got it"
>>738249232its the most fun gacha game ive ever played and im not bullshiting you ive played genshin, wuwa and endfield the devs have something special in their hands with this game its why the gacha tribalists are throwing everything they have at it to try and make people stop playing it but its not working
>>738242920It's actually worse than all of them.
>>738249827Unless they completely rework the animations from the ground up, it ain't gonna steal any spot.
>>738251017You mean it becomes kino
>>738249827its not a genshin clone, its yakuza, sleeping dogs, city tycoon, tof mini games clone thats what it realy is, the only thing thats similar to genshin is the reaction team system
>>738251040>have 30ms ping>enemy attacks>i click dodge then attack>the dodge registers AFTER i attack because the enemy takes too long to attack meamazingalso, parrying with the same button you attack is some braindead wuwa shit
>>738251098Endfield had the same problem of having zero characters worth caring about but at least it had better 3D models. Maybe it got better later, I wouldn't know I quit because it was greedy as all fuck. Mihomo is all bottom of the barrel boring garbage I'd rather watch paint dry than play their games. WuWa is the only single gacha I will actively look down on you for playing. You can be a Brown Dust player or a guy playing LADS and I will not judge you so hard as I will for being braindead enough to play WuWa.
>>738246759>ZZZIt really just turned into another Mihoyo game. It was stupid to remove the TVs rather than try and make them work. It's not like what they are doing now is making that much money than before.
>>738251375Wuwa is objectively better than everything other than Endfield though
>>738251359>stuff that never happened
>>738251915huh? anyone can watch gameplay videos and see it happen>>738251539if you're a soulless south korean that wants his retarded power fantasy at the expense of any cohesive storytelling and character development
>>738242769God I hate that fucking thing. Ill never understand the Asian love for extremely annoying mascot characters.
Why does every gacha game have the same run and sprint-dodge animations
>>738252000>huh? anyone can watch gameplay videos and see it happenim telling you that i never experience input delay like a souls game so i dont know what you are talking about it sounds like you have a network issue or your PC is running the game at too high of settings that the cpu is chugging
>>738252142they keep it boring for normal characters so they can sell you the alternative cool one for premium characters
>>738252000Every single gacha has dogshit storytelling and character development though. Why would you care about different flavors of shit?
>>738252161it's not input delay and there's nothing wrong with my machinethe issue is about enemy attacks being slow and the light that prompts you to dodge coming too early, which lets press dodge and seeing the character sprint then after a second the really dodge animation comes when the enemy finally attacks
>>738252142ZZZ and Endfield have custom walk and run for each character, some of them are less distinct than others but they're unique nonetheless
>>738252361in games like zzz for example, when the light flashes and you dodge the enemy attacks you instantly without waiting for a set interval to go through his attack animationthat makes combat more fluid and enjoyable
>>738252361you press the attack when its on you the prompt is to get you ready at red and yellow is the parry dumbass
I only need to know one thing: is a single pull 160 of whatever the fuck crystal currency?
>>738252446>keeps misunderstandingor maybe you understand but ignore the issue to shill your garbage gameeither way i'm done talking, enjoy your slop
>>738252483yes
>>738252512>i lost the conversation and thus you are a shillWhatever faggot>enjoy the gamewell i have and i will lmfao
>>738245651For the current limited banner? I'm doing something wrong then
>AIAIAIAIWhy are people being so retarded about that game? Saw some fuckers unironically claiming the animations are AI when it can't even make useable 3d models. Did that game murder someones mother?
>>738242769fpbp, dropped the game the moment I had to bring that thing on the retarded date. Every quest felt like it excessively used him. I came here for hot chicks, not your gay crt otter.
>>738253168He stops being relevant after this. Apperently it was suppose to be a sidequest and some other sidequest was suppose to be in it's place but retarded betatester whined that it was too long. Still a retarded choice
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>>738252924Just take your typical Nintendo vs Sony fanboy shit but multiply it for how many Gacha games there are and you have your answer.>>738253168I don't hate him like other people but I am annoyed he is used so much over the main girl Mint.I don't think I've heard a single person say a bad thing about her, so of course you get sent to work for people who Mint has nothing to do with so you barely see her after the intro.
>>738253850Mint... why are you looking at me like that...?
>>738253850Ill be honest I was prepared for Mint to have the usual first girl problems and just be a tutorial girl, but her getting sidelined for a team of characters I barely have much good to say about along with the CRT Otter really makes me hate what they did to her. They set her up to be your best buddy and then completely sideline her for overall worse characters.>>738253805The choice to make the thing say only its name was retarded, is it like this for every language? Are the chinks complaining about this thing as much as we are?
>>738242725Nte created something even more annoying than paimonAt least paimon is fuckable
>>738253805
>>738254594
>mash click to finish dialog>attack npc by mistake>under arrest10/10
>>738255012just press esc
>>738254457Mint is also the only character your MC and her call out to each other when switching.
there's a naked magical chick that no one seems to care about
>>738245991>zzz and genshin have decent combat>the combat
>>738255192she gives you the best weapon for the mc, too
>>738249232it's all right. I appreciate the more "slice of life" approach, I'm tired of gachas trying to be le epic good versus evil war against elder gods or whatever
>>738255414Is it better than the cheap bundle pay one?
>>738242725But its doing well. Japanese are loving it, except for >>738242769 even they hate him.
>>738255414how?
>>738255489Same
>>738255337>omits the rest of my post and shows whale stuffalso half of the fun consists of mixing and matching a team and strat
>>738255515good point, it probably isn't. but it's the best free weapon afaik>>73825560430% ATK for free and charge efficiency substat, up to 33% on the max level. it's a good stat stick. If you mean how to get it, you just talk to the naked girl in a few different places on the map and then she gives it to you
>>738255515It's not
>>738255864I think this one might be slightly better overall
>>738246447everytime I see a new 3d the comments are always "its just worse wuwa combat"
>>738246447agreed, funny how much asshurt Wuwa caused to sunk costed slop enjoyers like the two who replied to you
>>738256241a new 3d gacha*
>>738256241NTE is a blatant copy of that combat system though, idk how it plays at endgame but the only real nuance they added is the swap parry.
>>738248345Gachas are going to replace regular games in the same way casinos and massage parlors replaced regular games. You are not going to understand my genius post.
>>738247136>best characters are free but also uselessFML
>>738258837>uselessWhy are Gacha players like this?>you need X character with XYZ supports with Z weapon with multiple copies trust me>actually play the game>clear 99% of the game's content with ease using characters I enjoy for looks/personality/fun gameplay>but noooo think about the biweekly chore that gives you 3 dollars worth of rolls
>>738242725it just looks like cheap trash.
>>738259887Part leaderboard autism, part continual worship for youtubers and other shits, and part that games get all the fun sucked out of them in an instant these days due to metafaggotry.