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What went wrong?
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>>738242725
taygedo.

also cant believe fadia is supposed to be midnight and mint is ragdoll
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>>738242725
Gacha trash
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>>738242725
it's just boring. the gacha itself is much more generous than other games, but i'm just... bored
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they forgot you need appealing characters for your gacha to sell
still better than Endfield, WuWa, or any Mihomo slop
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>>738242920
>>738242725
There are too many gachas on the market right now.
How can people deal with all that shit?
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can't date the shota
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>>738242725
>need around 14k for a full pity roll
>barely 4k and I've been playing nonstop
oh god this isn't one of those stingy gaccha is it?
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>>738243238
He fell for it again
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>>738243135
almost all of them are bad so it's easy to try a new one whenever it comes out
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>>738242725
Wide as an ocean, deep as a puddle. It tries to do a lot of things; racing, horror, job sim, homemaker, dating sim, fishing, etc, but it doesn't do any of them well enough to be good.
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>>738243467
But you still have to do dailies for some you actually like.
How many gachas can people afford to "play"?
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>>738244032
it depends on the game, I did up to 3 at a time without much issue but none of them were 3D gacha so I didn't have to waste time like running around and shit, now I just do one
there were a couple gacha that I thought were neat but actually stopped playing early because I knew the dailies would take too much time(usually the ones that force "gameplay" on you but the gameplay is 10 times worse than a real game within the same genre)
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>combat simpler than Genshin
>driving is worse than the 1st Watch Dogs
>designs aren't that good
>stingy as fuck
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>>738242769
We could've had a main quest about dating Mint.
Instead we have to waste time with gaypedo with his discord kitten bullshit.
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>>738244404
That's because they probably know people always skip the main story in gacha games.
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>>738242725
Budget is 25 million and they made 70 million in a day they are doing fine
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>>738244761
I don't skip story in nikke though
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Yet another game trying to copy genshit without any of the stuff that made genshin good
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>>738242725
Too many shitty mascots and kids, that's my main gripe with the game.
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>>738245165
Except there's nothing good about genshin, literally dropped it 3 times in the first hours
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>>738245407
The game would be vastly improved with a skip button. I wonder how much money they've lost out from both returning and new players because people don't wanna slog through 1000s of hours of dialouge
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>>738245496
Don't care of the dialogue, game just plays and looks terrible, even Tower of Fantasy mogs that slop
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>>738245543
It was good a few years ago but now it feels dated. the problem is nobody has innovated or really tried anything new. they saw the success and said "we're gonna copy that for the next 10 years".
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>>738243238
I'm already at pity you just need to play more
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>>738242725
shitty combat like wuwa but even clunkier
i'd unironically play it every day if it had better combat
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>>738245671
>gacha
>good combat
Lol
Never gonna happen
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>>738245874
zzz and genshin have decent combat
not the best but it's fun if you're not underpowered or overpowered
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>zzz
>you mash one button
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>>738245874
Wuwa's combat against endgame bosses is outstanding.
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Need to see what the summer swimsuit skins will look like before I can determine if it's a flop or not.
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>>738246019
in the tutorial, then you mash 6 + directional keys if you want to clear endgame
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I like the tone of it. It's like a mix between Persona 3, Scarlet Nexus and some modern urban anime. You choose for me Anon, Tokyo Ghoul? I dunno.
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I just think Wuthering Waves is at the peak of the entire gacha genre right now.

The story beats and scenes in the game are so good that it's just destroying other gacha games. So while other and new games are going through their 1.X phases, Wuthering Waves is over here fighting mecha in space with all the musical stings and DmC combat odes and so on.

It reminds me of XIV's Shadowbringers, where it's like, you can play that or you can play some Korean MMO that just launched and is finding its footing.
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>>738246447
Complete and utter delusion in it's purest form. Wuwafags might just beat Hoyofags at this.
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>>738246447
put the trip back on so my filter can work lil seafag
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>>738243908
Probably this. It's wide enough that I'm still being entertained a little everyday, though all I do is do maybe two quests, fight whatever vending machines I run past, and drive around a little listening to the rain. It can be quite chill. I still don't know what the dailies or endgame of this game are, and frankly I don't care.
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SUNSHINE AFTER THE WAYNE
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>>738242725
>What went wrong?
>Another gacha full of nigger asses because they need to pander to blacks and americans, which in turn makes it flop in china
Kek they copied zzz including the reason it flopped and it ended up flopping as well
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>>738246548
Man, there's been like 5 patches in Wuwa that have these 10/10 moments in the last year alone.

If you go play Arknights, you're in Wuling making pipes.
ZZZ has solid combat but doesn't know what it's doing with the story, removed all TV sections.
Genshin is hanging around.
Star Rail is up and down constantly.
Then you have your lighter entries like Exilium and Nikke which don't have the same grandeur as the 3D titles.

If someone in this thread thinks Wuthering Waves isn't the best 3D gacha currently, I'd be very surprised. And someone who plays all of them like myself, not fucking 'I played 2 hours and didn't click" shit.
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AI slop.
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>>738242725
pander to yuri crowd
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>>738242725
The combat sucks ass. There’s no point to grind and doing dailies if that shitty combat is what you’re aiming to build your characters for
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>>738246621
Turning syuen into my personal onahole nikke
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They need to expand the dating
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>>738246894
What's the point of dating in a non-h game?
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>>738242725
nothing i want to have sex with her
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>>738247009
Hand-holding and hugs and kisses, which are superior to sexslop in every way
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>>738242725
Mint and FMC are the only good designs
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>>738247121
Nice cope
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>>738247121
Nice truth
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>>738247121
>>738246894
youre a troon
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>>738247371
Don't say such things about yourself!
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>>738247009
What's the point of having girls in non-h games in the first place?
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>>738242725
How the fuck do you get annulith after you beat all the chapters without paying?
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>>738247136
No, the best design is indisputably Lacrimosa, even though the red jacket is fucking stupid
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>>738242725
Nothing really went wrong but also nothing really went right
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>>738246630
Ngl sounds like a chill game if you only ever want to play like 30min-1hour a day
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>>738246630
>I still don't know what the dailies or endgame of this game are, and frankly I don't care

retard
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>>738247453
You can at least look at their sexy bodies and stuff.
Dating never ends up with sex in non h games
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>>738242725
Too generic.
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>>738247602
so literal blueballing waste of time
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Any good art of Mint's giant tits yet. She's got a lot of competition. However that first person view is great and really puts it into perspective.
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>>738247601
Didn't ask!
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How long until this game gets some poopdick tripfag that ruins every thread thereafter
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>>738245991
>zzz and genshin have decent combat
lol
lmao even
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>>738247840
I can provide sloppa
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>>738247872
Shin already latched on in the release thread, but he's been fairly inactive since
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>>738248049
cat milk
uuuuuuuuu
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>>738245084
its really strange how if it wasnt a gacha game, it would probably not even break 500k sales, people genuinely just want some kind of gambling timesink in their lives even in a period of time where there's already so many to choose from, and that people will just play the latest one like it's any other major AAA release with no regard for whether it's actually good or fits into their tastes
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>>738248246
The future is gachas
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>>738248129
>wuwa schizo

I thought wuwa is better than this game take your niggers away from my nte
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>>738242725
gachatrannyslop
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I shall wait for she then make up my mind
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How’s the story? That’s all that matters with JRPGs.
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>>738246759
Have not played Wuva in a while since the god awful 3.0 patch.

But I am guessing I can predict all of these "hype" moments from the game.

Sad banner character takes you to sad place and something happens and you and banner character go fix that bad thing - with a flashy cutscene and dramatic music that solves the problem of said banner character or leaves said banner character in a ambigious state that need no further elaboration.

The only two characters that have any meaningful interaction in this patch was the main character and the banner character. The banner character then disappears completely or gets a cameo in the next patch.

The next patch is the same, but with new banner character.
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>>738249232
It's not a JRPG and the main story is alright, the side quests are better.
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>>738249232
It's comfy.
If you're looking for wuwa 2.0 this is not it.
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>>738249594
I'm looking for ToF 2.0 actually
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>>738249630
The fuck does that mean?
Never played tof.
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>>738249232
its the konosuba of gachas, better than the usual chinkslop writing they usually have
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>>738242725
It seems to be doing pretty good. Another Genshin clone - but atleast a novel take on it.

I assume its probably going to steal the spot of endfield and wuva for the next couple of years.
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>>738249232
It's a generic battle harem anime story in an urban fantasy setting. Kinda like Persona.
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>tower of fantasy devs

I thought tof was awful, so we’ll see what the team has learned over the years.
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The story is "meh" until chapter 4, where it takes a nosedive and becomes infuriatingly bad, making you run across a huge mansion for what feels like a whole hour (skipping some of it) without telling you anything of note aside from "there is an anomaly that grants immortality and there's le evil group that got it"
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>>738249232
its the most fun gacha game ive ever played and im not bullshiting you ive played genshin, wuwa and endfield

the devs have something special in their hands with this game its why the gacha tribalists are throwing everything they have at it to try and make people stop playing it but its not working
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>>738242920
It's actually worse than all of them.
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>>738249827
Unless they completely rework the animations from the ground up, it ain't gonna steal any spot.
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>>738251017
You mean it becomes kino
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>>738249827
its not a genshin clone, its yakuza, sleeping dogs, city tycoon, tof mini games clone thats what it realy is, the only thing thats similar to genshin is the reaction team system
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>>738251040
>have 30ms ping
>enemy attacks
>i click dodge then attack
>the dodge registers AFTER i attack because the enemy takes too long to attack me
amazing
also, parrying with the same button you attack is some braindead wuwa shit
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>>738251098
Endfield had the same problem of having zero characters worth caring about but at least it had better 3D models. Maybe it got better later, I wouldn't know I quit because it was greedy as all fuck.
Mihomo is all bottom of the barrel boring garbage I'd rather watch paint dry than play their games.
WuWa is the only single gacha I will actively look down on you for playing. You can be a Brown Dust player or a guy playing LADS and I will not judge you so hard as I will for being braindead enough to play WuWa.
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>>738246759
>ZZZ
It really just turned into another Mihoyo game. It was stupid to remove the TVs rather than try and make them work. It's not like what they are doing now is making that much money than before.
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>>738251375
Wuwa is objectively better than everything other than Endfield though
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>>738251359
>stuff that never happened
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>>738251915
huh? anyone can watch gameplay videos and see it happen
>>738251539
if you're a soulless south korean that wants his retarded power fantasy at the expense of any cohesive storytelling and character development
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>>738242769
God I hate that fucking thing. Ill never understand the Asian love for extremely annoying mascot characters.
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Why does every gacha game have the same run and sprint-dodge animations
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>>738252000
>huh? anyone can watch gameplay videos and see it happen
im telling you that i never experience input delay like a souls game so i dont know what you are talking about it sounds like you have a network issue or your PC is running the game at too high of settings that the cpu is chugging
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>>738252142
they keep it boring for normal characters so they can sell you the alternative cool one for premium characters
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>>738252000
Every single gacha has dogshit storytelling and character development though. Why would you care about different flavors of shit?
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>>738252161
it's not input delay and there's nothing wrong with my machine
the issue is about enemy attacks being slow and the light that prompts you to dodge coming too early, which lets press dodge and seeing the character sprint then after a second the really dodge animation comes when the enemy finally attacks
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>>738252142
ZZZ and Endfield have custom walk and run for each character, some of them are less distinct than others but they're unique nonetheless
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>>738252361
in games like zzz for example, when the light flashes and you dodge the enemy attacks you instantly without waiting for a set interval to go through his attack animation
that makes combat more fluid and enjoyable
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>>738252361
you press the attack when its on you the prompt is to get you ready at red and yellow is the parry dumbass
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I only need to know one thing: is a single pull 160 of whatever the fuck crystal currency?
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>>738252446
>keeps misunderstanding
or maybe you understand but ignore the issue to shill your garbage game
either way i'm done talking, enjoy your slop
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>>738252483
yes
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>>738252512
>i lost the conversation and thus you are a shill
Whatever faggot
>enjoy the game
well i have and i will lmfao
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>>738245651
For the current limited banner? I'm doing something wrong then
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>AIAIAIAI
Why are people being so retarded about that game? Saw some fuckers unironically claiming the animations are AI when it can't even make useable 3d models. Did that game murder someones mother?
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>>738242769
fpbp, dropped the game the moment I had to bring that thing on the retarded date. Every quest felt like it excessively used him. I came here for hot chicks, not your gay crt otter.
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>>738253168
He stops being relevant after this. Apperently it was suppose to be a sidequest and some other sidequest was suppose to be in it's place but retarded betatester whined that it was too long. Still a retarded choice
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TAYGEDO

TAYGEDO

TAYGI

TAYGEDO


TAYGEDO
TAYGEDOTAYGEDOTAYGEDOTAYGEDOTAYGEDOTAYGEDOTAYGEDOTAYGEDOTAYGEDO

TAYGEDOTAYGEDOTAYGEDOTAYGEDOTAYGEDOTAYGEDOTAYGEDOTAYGEDOTAYGEDOTAYGEDOTAYGEDOTAYGEDOTAYGEDOTAYGEDOTAYGEDOTAYGEDO
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>>738252924
Just take your typical Nintendo vs Sony fanboy shit but multiply it for how many Gacha games there are and you have your answer.
>>738253168
I don't hate him like other people but I am annoyed he is used so much over the main girl Mint.
I don't think I've heard a single person say a bad thing about her, so of course you get sent to work for people who Mint has nothing to do with so you barely see her after the intro.
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>>738253850
Mint... why are you looking at me like that...?
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>>738253850
Ill be honest I was prepared for Mint to have the usual first girl problems and just be a tutorial girl, but her getting sidelined for a team of characters I barely have much good to say about along with the CRT Otter really makes me hate what they did to her. They set her up to be your best buddy and then completely sideline her for overall worse characters.

>>738253805
The choice to make the thing say only its name was retarded, is it like this for every language? Are the chinks complaining about this thing as much as we are?
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>>738242725
Nte created something even more annoying than paimon
At least paimon is fuckable
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>>738253805
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>>738254594
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>mash click to finish dialog
>attack npc by mistake
>under arrest
10/10
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>>738255012
just press esc
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>>738254457
Mint is also the only character your MC and her call out to each other when switching.
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there's a naked magical chick that no one seems to care about
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>>738245991
>zzz and genshin have decent combat
>the combat
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>>738255192
she gives you the best weapon for the mc, too
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>>738249232
it's all right. I appreciate the more "slice of life" approach, I'm tired of gachas trying to be le epic good versus evil war against elder gods or whatever
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>>738255414
Is it better than the cheap bundle pay one?
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>>738242725
But its doing well. Japanese are loving it, except for >>738242769 even they hate him.
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>>738255414
how?
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>>738255489
Same
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>>738255337
>omits the rest of my post and shows whale stuff
also half of the fun consists of mixing and matching a team and strat
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>>738255515
good point, it probably isn't. but it's the best free weapon afaik
>>738255604
30% ATK for free and charge efficiency substat, up to 33% on the max level. it's a good stat stick.
If you mean how to get it, you just talk to the naked girl in a few different places on the map and then she gives it to you
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>>738255515
It's not
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>>738255864
I think this one might be slightly better overall
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>>738246447
everytime I see a new 3d the comments are always "its just worse wuwa combat"
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>>738246447
agreed, funny how much asshurt Wuwa caused to sunk costed slop enjoyers like the two who replied to you
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>>738256241
a new 3d gacha*
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>>738256241
NTE is a blatant copy of that combat system though, idk how it plays at endgame but the only real nuance they added is the swap parry.
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>>738248345
Gachas are going to replace regular games in the same way casinos and massage parlors replaced regular games.
You are not going to understand my genius post.
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>>738247136
>best characters are free but also useless
FML
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>>738258837
>useless
Why are Gacha players like this?
>you need X character with XYZ supports with Z weapon with multiple copies trust me
>actually play the game
>clear 99% of the game's content with ease using characters I enjoy for looks/personality/fun gameplay
>but noooo think about the biweekly chore that gives you 3 dollars worth of rolls
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>>738242725
it just looks like cheap trash.
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>>738259887
Part leaderboard autism, part continual worship for youtubers and other shits, and part that games get all the fun sucked out of them in an instant these days due to metafaggotry.



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