Only retards play or careabout DEI wokeslop mmorpgs still in 2026

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>runescape 3
>old school runescape
>runescape 2007
>classic runescape
What's the qrd on this shit?
Where is runescape 2? Which one was 1?
At what point did he become two separate games?

>>738243940
RuneScape was rebranded RuneScape 2 when the graphics went into 3D, and 2 was later dubbed "HD" when they improved them. RuneScape 3 was the branding used around 2010 - intended for the new HTML5 client - but that was dropped. So the RS3 branding was more about the new interface system, plotline/s, and combat change.
OSRS is just what it says, the 2007 cut of the game based on RS2, pre HD.
There was a 2006 public server, but I think it largely faded out when OSRS was launched. I assume There might be another pub server called 2007 which is just OS before significant changes (basically, OS-OSRS)
Classic RS is just an old version of RS1 that Jagex phased out.

>>738243835
imagine thinking it’s “DEI wokeslop” and not just a 20 year old browser grindfest desperately trying to keep the lights on

RS3’s problem was never rainbow capes or whatever culture war shit you’re mad about, it was nuking its own identity for a decade straight and training the playerbase to log in for daily keys instead of the actual game

you can’t spend years selling XP lamps and slot machine dopamine and then act shocked when the second you remove it people realize there’s not much game left underneath

this isn’t about politics, it’s about jagex trying to turn a skinner box back into an MMO and finding out the rats already left

but sure bro, it was the woke goblins that did it

>>738245643
>it’s about jagex trying to turn a skinner box back into an MMO
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They're not even half way through the year of unfucking.
The combat balance stuff is extra fucked up but not really all that surprising, necromancy since it's release up until very recently was the ONLY combat style worth using, it was so far and away busted that people were clearing max enrage zamorak solo like day 3 of it's release because it was that simple and that broken even with middling gear.

Also havenhythe was explicit about being a 2 parter, low level first, high level later, I don't think it's necessarily fair to judge it on just the low level shit, they were expecting more new players to join who needed content because all the other low level content is ranging from 10-20 years old and unplayable.

>>738243591
Doesn’t really make sense lore wise for it to be weak if that’s true, Morytania is cursed ground and anything close to it should be dangerous by association

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OSRS is the only good MMO in 2026 with an actual community and non retarded world and story.

FF14 is just anime slop with a retarded story that doesnt really make sense, also the armor looks gay. For example tell me what any of these trophies mean in pic related. It's all just nonsense.
WoW is really woke, and is dead because everything is instanced. Also the story and lore sucks.

>>738245810
>and non retarded world and story
because it's just a brain dead skinner box for autists

it's cute how retards pretend OSRS isn't just a skinner box

oh yeah remember that new game the gower brothers made, wonder what happened to that

>>738246086
it was just one of them, and it was a total flop. It's called brighter shores, at launch people maxed out the level 999 skill caps within a week. The entire game plays in a style analogous to dungeoneering where you have rooms that snap together rather than dedicated areas, so naturally all the shit scales to you when it generates a new room. They fucked the exp curve past level like 100 so it slowed down pretty naturally up to 105 or 110, then all of a sudden exp exploded and you were gaining around 10-20 levels per 30 minutes up till cap. So a bunch of people capped.
They gave up on that style of gameplay and retooled it and are now working on more "milestone" content for people to do, you know, so they have a reason to play the game or grind and raise their skills. But they've completely given up on the barebones combat in the meantime and have a timeline of like 8-10 months before they get back to combat.
There's just no reason to play it, there's no unique content, the stories are okay but very millenial writing filled. Not that runescape isn't/wasn't but it's REALLY apparent in brighter shores. Combat is boring, as mentioned, skills feel by and large pointless because they only made content for them up to level like 30 at launch, out of 999, that's what they're working on now, it's a little better but still REALLY empty.
It's got basically no players anymore either.couple hundred daily, most sit around the hub town and don't even talk, cause they're afk playing other shit (usually runescape)

Post sexy npcs

>>738243940
There is just Runescape and Oldschool Runescape.
Runescape is the same game that was originally released in 2001, you can still be playing a character from that in the current day version, my account is from 2005 and its the same character.

Runescape got a big update, called runescape 2, taking the game from 2d in a 3d world to fully 3d, the games were then called Runescape and Runescape classic if you didn't want to migrate your character, RS2 was just the name of an update.
in 2011 there was a big combat update, evolution of combat (eoc), it did not go over well with a lot of players, so a year or so later oldschool runescape released which was the version of the game from 2007.
A few years later runescape got another big update, often called runescape 3, it was porting over the game from a java client to a c++ client, adding a fully customizable UI, massive performance improvements, and getting rid of basically all of the legacy game engine visual stuff. The game was still called runescape, rs3 was just the name of an update.

So the games are Runescape and Oldschool runescape, but obviously referring to them as RS and OSRS when talking about both of them is a bit confusing, so RS3 gets added to clarify what game you mean when you are talking about both of them in same context, otherwise you can call them both just runescape.

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>>738245718
>They're not even half way through the year of unfucking.
What's actually left that would be a "holy shit I have to get back into this game" update, though?

>>738247230
nothing, cause they're not making "I have to get back into this game" updates. They're making "We need to unfuck this game before we have to admit our original tentpole title is now such a failure it's losing money" updates. Next year when (or rather, if) they unfuck combat to a point it's worth using more than one style ever, they'll probably focus on putting new content out. But I'm not holding my breath cause they're still talking about reworking dungeoneering and shit.

>>738243591
The problem is that none of the shit that is apparently being worked on is actually relevant to a lot of the players.
if you were still playing the game as the MTX ramped up (instead of quitting or playing OSRS), you simply swapped to ironman mode which had no MTX, it never had MTX, and a very significant portion of the player base are ironman.
but if you are already at end game none of the MTX shit really matters to you and you are playing for the PVM

people keep saying necromancy and the pvm rebalance is a big deal, but ranged and mage were already stronger than necromancy at the end game, necromancy just had an abysmally low skill floor and you can do really easily do really well, if you already had even near BIS gear necromancy wasn't an upgrade for you, it was just another style that let you chill. Melee was more damage, but melee had its own issues that were not related at all to damage, because it always had the most if you could actually use it.
but this destroyed the "mid game" and casual players, since necromancy was all that was relevant for them and it felt like the original combat styles got removed, so this new update is meant to leave the top end just as strong, but make the middle part more competitive with necromancy, but its made top end shit even crazier so its kinda wack.

Damage was already done, removing mtx doesn't fix it, rebalancing combat doesn't fix it (combat was really good, just more shit for the mid game for non necromancy styles to make then competitive was necromancy was all that was needed) and it just needs a huge refocus of the entire game, which is a much bigger project than 5 months and doesn't fix the issues that push away new players (many of which OSRS also has), if they actually address these issues the game will do way better, dailies are a WAY fucking bigger problem than fucking mtx has ever been.

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>>738245643
Cool
Thanks
Does anyone know of a website where you can create gifs of text that use the runescape special text like flash and wave and such? I've tired to find one but I can't. Closest thing I found was something on github that said it would do that, but it was for python or some shit and I dont own any snakes, nor do I know what coding is, so that's useless to me. I found a site that can make the text as an image, of course. But I would like to make gifs

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I didn't make this, but would like to make gifs like this for my own purposes

>>738247454
necromancy wasn't an issue AFTER 8 months of nerfs back to back to back to back, necromancy was so powerful you could AFK zamorak, hands off keyboard, just watch. It collapsed the entire weapon economy (if you care about that shit) because of HOW worthless everything else was in comparison.

>>738246678
You forgot to mention the retarded f2p is only 5% of the game shit that runescape does.

Once I hit the pay to play portion of brighter shores I uninstalled.

>>738247532
even without the nerfs
the problem is that the game never required you to have BIS gear or even close to BIS gear for ANY boss, its never been balanced like that.
so nercromancy had good enough stuff to do anything, and the style made it very easy to do a lot of things, so it had a big impact not because it was the strongest, but it was strong enough to trivialize a lot of shit.

Reality is the amount of bosses people would talk about being so hard and said you needed to bring a ridiculous amount of shit simply didn't fucking require any of that shit and most people just didn't want to give it a try due to people saying you needed all that shit, necromancy wiped that slate clean and made people actually fucking try them, so they realized you don't need all this shit and to be giga overgeared to fight anything, so a bunch of shit crashed like crazy because it was being propped up by people just saying you need it.
I understand how schizo this sounds, but people really were and still act like this, they make recommendations without actually understanding what you really need and overshoot like crazy.

Yeah, necromancy was insanely strong, and it was insanely strong without a bunch of the shit you needed to make other styles even stronger than necromancy ever was, necromancy was just incredibly accessible, both in gear and execution, why bother spending billions on just ranged when necromancy was 95% as good, with barely any effort, as bis ranged played perfectly.
It was just wasn't worth using other styles, not that they were weaker.

>>738247742
yes that's what I said without redditspacing and chatGPT, necromancy was more efficient, and nothing else was worth using, it took 8 months of nerfs to rectify that.

there's a runescape 2 and 3? huh

>>738247419
I think the updates they are putting out in that timeline is shit that people have been requesting constantly for a decade+ and have constantly been shot down due to it being too much work.
the player avatar visual update is a huge one for example.

the whole roadmap is basically
>remember all that shit you wanted?
>well the game has it now
>its all been fixed
it seems like its targeting players who used to play, to try to get them back
I would assume the new player push will happen AFTER that and that they are laying the groundwork for it all now, getting back players, getting the game on the right track, setting it up to be better for the new players, so when the push comes through they can actually stick the landing.

I'm mostly curious if they're gonna try to go the OSRS route and give out all the cosmetics people paid money for through lootboxes on christmas. I really want one of those colored santa hats but they shot way the fuck up in price because there's a good chance you'll never be able to get one ever again.

>>738247861
>write 2 lines on necromancy
>"nooo that isn't true!!!!"
>explain in depth why it is true
>"oh yeah you were right I was just disagreeing with you because I don't like necromancy so anything you say about it means I have to disagree, even though I agree with what you said"
right lmao

>>738247973
okay nerd go get AI to write more posts for you. You coped that range and melee were stronger at endgame when they were objectively not. If they were, they wouldn't have needed to nerf necromancy so hard.
Cope harder niggeroni.

>>738248031
damn you are so bad at reading AND writing you think people need to use AI to write a paragraph.
ranged, mage, and melee were stronger.
Melee has always been the highest damage style by far, you just can't use it everywhere.

Sorry you were so dogshit at the game that necromancy was an upgrade for you, everyone else only used it because it meant you could afk shit you otherwise had to put effort into, not because it was stronger.

>>738245643
OSRS brought back a ton of players who left in the transition to RS3 in the first place. A lot of the early feature additions were well received, and people were hopeful it'd set an example for the rest of the industry. There was hope that it'd be guided by the interests and desires of the paying player base. Then they started making retarded decisions again and ignoring completely valid complaints from players.
The Pride event shit was just an especially visible example.
They didn't ask the players if they wanted it. They got backlash for it. Then they actually ran a poll, got an answer they didn't like, and did it again in spite of the established consensus.

The whole point of OSRS was to avoid the pitfalls that made RS3 so divisive. And while that appeared to be their mission statement, it worked. Once it was established that they were willing to do whatever the fuck they wanted to the game without running it past the players first, and that they'd stick to their guns even if no one liked what they made, the entire value proposition of OSRS was dead. It was never actually about the rainbows and pastel colors and the ambiguously gay leprechaun in Lumbridge. If they had polled it the first time, it probably would have been approved by a small margin.
The problem was violating the premise of the whole project. Which they had already been doing in smaller ways up to that point, but they hadn't been so callous about it before that. It was the straw that broke the camel's back, not the whole bale.

>>738248682
>If they had polled it the first time, it probably would have been approved by a small margin
By who? By the people who vetoed tenporarily exclusive purple skin you'll never even see? lmao

>>738245643
this reads like ai just so you know

>>738245810
the story in osrs is really retarded actually

>>738249018
elaborate, can't be any dumber than the world guardian.

>>738249087
OSRS also has While Guthix Sleeps now so that's canon.

>>738249087
you did the quests right? almost all of them feel like it's some kind of comedy game full of corny jokes and things are explained "like lol idk it just randumly happened this way XD isn't that funny" like none of them take themselves seriously at all and are just trying to be funny the whole time like monty python humor or something

>>738249281
That has been Runescape since 2003 tho.

>>738249310
yeah but he said the story isn't retarded when it is

>>738249147
It will never not be funny to me that Guthix's official canon design came from an extremely shitty YouTube Machinima that they astroturfed the ever living fuck out of.

I don't even remember what it was called, but I will never not be mad that they chose the worst possible voice in the voice acting contest for the monkey. Even my shitty, screechy pre-teen attempt was better than some dickhead who didn't even try, but pitched his voice down in Audacity or some shit.
I will never not be mad about that.
If someone gave a really fucking good performance, it wouldn't have pissed me off. But they gave a bunch of merch, a free trip, and free membership to a shitter who did the bare minimum, and it wasn't even funny. I put my squeaky little heart into that shit, and they insulted my effort, and the effort of everyone else who submitted an entry.

>>738249912
As a kid I have seen enough of these "contests" where the adults didn't give a shit and just picked a random entry. Might have been the case here too. Pretty cheap to make people market the game and just end up paying one of them with some random shit you have laying around. Yes i'm bitter and cynical

>>738249912
Which was it, RS gods exposed or something like that?

>>738250831
It had Saradomin, Zamorak and Guthix living in that building with all the chickens outside of Falador. The only thing Guthix would ever do is scream his own name.

>>738250958
Yeah that's the one I was thinkgen of

I always felt like jagex had an inappropriately hostile attitude when it came to their customers. If you actually *do* have a genuine problem you're going to be treated like a liar immediately.

i do not like this game but i played it once because a friend who was into it suggested i try it. all i did was autistically fish at the fishing places and talk shit in the chat with the fellow fishing autists. i had max fishing and barely anything on my other skills. i think i literally only bothered with them whenever having X level of a certain skill was a prereq for a fishing thing. eventually i got bored and stopped playing

i saw recently on a steam announcement that theyre changing the fishing reward outfit from a shark costume to regular fishing clothes in the name of "realism". in spite of knowing little else about them, that was what made me decide these updates are bad

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>>738243591
RS3's problem is the same problem that most other MMOs have: you're encouraged to bumrush endgame as fast as possible because that's where the content is. All skills 1-99 are fast as fuck because the actual content is bossing and 99-120 skilling. This compounded with boneheaded decisions -- the POH is invaluable in OSRS and totally redundant in RS3, and its replacement is War's Gooncave, where you kill bosses to get more "currency" to make bossing easier so you can kill more bosses ad nauseam -- make the game totally unfun to play for anyone who enjoys what OSRS has to offer. Oh, and the UI is fucking dogass, I only ever want to use Legacy mode on desktop, but the default mobile interface is a fine compromise that I wish they'd port to desktop.
I played RS3 during the last league, and if they unfuck the dailyscape situation, I'll fuck around in Leagues 2 for a week.

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>>738243591
they're getting ahead of new UK gambling laws and are farming good boy points from it, hell most of their MTX profits are from bonds and not keys anyways so it's not like they were losing out on much, and then they increased sub prices on top of that too

why the fuck are gamers such dumb retards that keep falling for the most obvious bait in the world? same thing for the whole game pass thing, wow le new CEO is so heckin' based for lowering the prices, no no ignore that 23 > 20 so it's still a price raise, is it really this easy to manipulate the masses?

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>>738251529
They're reworking the poh later this year and making construction go to 120.

>>738251529
Meh, I can't blame them after 23 years and with most of the players being stockholm syndrome addicts to focus on the stage most players are desu.
And they are learning. The entry level gokkun cow boss having an ultra powerful endgame form is good design. Sadly they forgot to make it actually worth killing while at it.

>>738243591
>in spite of rigging the vote(actual thing I've seen whales say) by having OSRS players being allowed to vote on a game they did not play, said OSRS players did not give a fuck and still did not give the game a shot
This is actually really gay, just not in that way. Rs3 and its whales have subsidized osrs membership price and lack of mtx for years. For osrs specifically, it was a good thing that rs3 was a cancerous cosmetic p2w money dump.

It's kind of hard to unfuck RS3 when the only people still playing it are the kind of people who still played RS3

>>738251529
OSRS does that too and they have to keep it alive with seasonal game modes

they literally have too many worlds i rarely run into someone and every GE looks empty as fuck

>>738251529
War's Domain feels surreal to me. I cannot imagine how if ever they'll remove it from the game.

>>738243591
I stopped playing when I realised the title was Rune Scape, not Run Escape

>>738243591
Runescape needs a total reset, like they need to make a Runescape 4 where everyone (forcefully) starts in a clean slate

>>738257350
Isn't that just Dragonwilds?

>>738253128
This isn't even true. OSRS has outearned RS3 for more then half a decade.

Is my red partyhat even worth anything if it's stuck on RS3?

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i had a dream where they added a couple of new skills to rs3. i didn't understand them, though.

>>738243591
>>738253128
The vote for bringing OSRS into existence a decade ago was also rigged. Not as blatantly as the MTX removal vote, but it was still rigged.

>>738258316
PHats are worthless in OSRS so yes.

>>738258383
>Summoning, combat and skilling support
>Dungeoneering, running randomly generated dungeons with progress resetting every floor (it's more of a minigame)
>Divination, gathering magical energy to make and change items, but mostly to feed...
>Invention, creating devices and tools, and improving weapons by empowering them with perks, requiring divine energy
>Archaeology, dig up and repair artifacts with martials you find digging. Progression is partially locked around skill-integrated miniquests about exploring ruins
>Necromancy, purple magic combat style, summon some bois to help fight