I've forgotten most of it except the balamb garden theme
>>738245979best game in the series, r = u, squall is dead, quistis sucks
He's right, its the best one from the PS1 FF's.
>>738246026Squall is dead sucks, dude gets a stab wound on his shoulder, I've had worse insect bites that that c'mon man
>>738245979great game
FF8 would be better with Seifer as the protag.
I like a lot of it, but the memory loss thing is so ass it's unforgivable.
>>738246137Seifer is a larping retard who just wanted to be a knight like in muh movies
>>738246026I thought that was the whole "final fantasy" theory where they all die at the start. Squall in bombing mission, Squall with Edea, Zidane in the Airship crash, Tidus in Sin attack etc
>>738245979I hated it and dropped it on disc 1 the characters were extreme cringe and phoneys
>>738246189Yeah that's why he's better than Squall. Just like Laguna is a better character than Squall.
>>738245979Everything about it is great. Only flaw is it isn't longer.
>>738246243Laguna is way better written than Squall, it's undeniable.
>>738246420Better battle song too
>>738245979It's a masterpiece, I love it It's also unique even among an already unique seriesBut it's obvious why dumbasses don't like it>Ff7: you start as a blind edge Lord with a huge sword, cyborg nigga and Ms. Tits as your party, inside a city that seems straight out of Blade runnerIt's obvious they ran focus groups asking a bunch of American kids what they wanted to see in a game>FF8: a bunch of Japanese high schoolers in a giant flying school shaped like a gourd Here the devs got to do something they felt like doing from the start, with a plot that's more symbolic than the epic quests of 7 or even 6. It's much more meaningful at the end of the day because you can tell they're trying to convey coming of age problems honestly. Zell trying too hard to be outgoing while being a sensitive nerd at heart. Irvine trying to look cool, confident and suave with girls, while being a coward. Squall trying to be cool, while being emotional and needy. Seifer trying to be a bully while being a silly romanticist. Quistis trying to be mature while looking for someone more mature to take on her issues for her (daddy). Rinoa trying to be independent while being an immature princess needing protection. Selphie trying to run the whole community while simply desperate to be part of a group
>>738245979Cult classic lvdokino
>>738246486>Blind edgelord I meant blond edgelord
soul
Rinoa best ff girl
>>738246860Why did she sleep with Seifer?
>>738246860She's one of the worst 3 Squaresoft girls, akhsually.The one that cucks the protagonist in Bahamot Lagoon is worse, though.
>>738247064so the player could take the role of the bvll later
>>738247228Seifer pump and dumped her. You aren't her bull but the cuck that picked up the tab.
>>738247064Young people who spent a summer together. Enough said.Nothing in the game implies sex or anything like that but they definitely had affection and were attracted to each other.
>>738247283cope he's seething the entire game. literally ran back to his mother
>>738246486>calling Cloud an edgelord while praising 8 featuring the single biggest edgelord in all of Final fantasy SquallThere's so much irony packed into one dumb fuck post.
>>738247363You're not self-aware
>>738247350And more than once he tries to gaslight Rinoa with 'm-member the t-thing we had??' and gets instantly blocked by her.Dude's a loser who scored above his level by luck.
>>738245979It's fantastic and I replay it every now and then. English speakers got kinda fucked with the very subpar translations but for everyone else Squall has great nuance and one of the best character developments of the franchise.
>>738247363TBF Squall is much more of an awkward autist in JP and the glorious localization turned him into an edgelord.While Cloud was only an edgelord when trying to LARP as a Soldier 1st class. He's a cool dude and Zack, the one he copied, was shown to be an even cooler dude, a proto-Laguna.
>>738247396More irony I love both 7 and 8 but man the fucking inferiority complex 8fags have towards 7 is beyond pathetic. Grow up(more irony).
>>738245979it filtered billions
I replayed FFVIII for the first time since release in January and I fear its OSTs is one of my favorites from Uematsu. It just fits this game so damn well.
>>738245979As bad as FF2
>>738245979I thought the story was total nonsense and wasn't really a fan of any of the characters. Maybe Zell just for being a retard. I like the idea of junctioning and gfs, I just think it was handled poorly and explained worse. The whole level scaling and actively avoiding exp thrown on top just adds unnecessary confusion. The endgame is pretty weak iirc, you're locked out of most areas. Very good presentation. Music, models, animations, fmvs are all on point. I can see why some people love FF8, but personally I'm not too impressed overall. I also think there is a vocal minority of contrarians who say it's their favourite specifically because the game is more controversial to say you like and it makes them feel special.
>>738247965FFVIII feels like they put somebody from SaGa to design its systems but also forced him to tone everything down because the game had to be sold to wider audiences.
>>738247965>level scalingI'll never take the opinion of anyone that defends level scaling seriously cuase whenever you argue with someone defending it it always ends up getting out that they just dislike RPGs in the first place cause level scaling is the absolute antithesis of the RPG and the worst video game mechanic ever conceived.
>>738247363>Squall>edgelordPlay the games you talk about anon, he's a socially awkward autist that crawls into a ball in his bed because of abandonment issues and fear of making connections. In other words he's literally me, minus the handsomeness or cool scar or cute gf.
>>738248238RPGs by definition have level scaling.Your level5 Fighter goes from fighting kobolds to fighting Wyverns and so on.It's just that FF8 had a poor more or less 1:1 progression for most mobs.
>>738248312Then neither is Cloud. They're both insecure losers trying to look cool. If you're going to call Cloud an edgelord and not Squall when Squall is literally just Cloud dialed up to 11 you're a double standards having hypocrite.
>>738248354>If you're going to call Cloud an edgelord Thank fuck I didn't.
>>738248412Then why jump into a conversation of me pointing out the irony of someone calling Cloud an edgelord while defending FF8 when the standards to call Cloud an edgelord apply more so to Squall? Are you stupid?
tedious
>>738248336That's not scaling, that's progression. Scaling implies adjustment to the game world around you to compensate for your increased level. Any RPG without level scaling has a flat static world where nothing is scaled, only paced out properly which again isn't scaling, it's progression.
>>738248460Because this is an open videogame board anyone can post in, and I can call someone out on mischaracterizing Squall without giving a shit about what someone else might've said about another character.
>>738248673Then why didn't you reply to the guy mischaracterizing Cloud as an edgelord then if you supposedly also don't think Cloud is one? Curios why only one triggered you and not the other. Almost as if you're lying and trying to save face..
>>738245979The music and overall sound effect design is 10/10. The magic sfx are very memorable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ8s4mhfeeQ
>>738248776Because Cloud being an edgelord has always been more talked about and easily dismissed over people genuinely believing that to be true for Squall. Or in other words: because I didn't feel like it and didn't have to feel like it, replying to every post equally.
>>738245979>>738248238The level scaling of FF8 sucks but it really is not a big deal and people need to stop acting like it is. Not only does the level scaling barely factor before disk 4, but the game is literally completely and easily beatable at level 99. People pretending like leveling up screws you over are very silly. The game is harder at a higher level, but only moderately.The only way the level scaling would fuck you is if you grinded up a ton of levels but never bothered to junction gear, level up GFs, etc. If you mostly ignore the RPG systems and just level up, yeah, it is pretty bad.>inb4 Lol you're defending itNo, it sucks, but it is more like you're saying the entire house is ruined because one of the guest bedrooms smells weird. Yeah, objectively bad, but not really a big deal. The real issue moreso is just that it makes your power almost entirely dependent GFs and Junctions, which does make leveling in and of itself not feel that great.
>>738248940Squall's English script is very abrasive and rude, he comes off as a total retarded edgelord. The whatever became a meme for a reason.Blame localizers.
>>738245979Quistis is hot and i wish she could inflate with air, not unlike a blimp.
>>738248948It sucks because it makes almost not difference, it's just another tacked on way to sell guides because IIRC enemy levels could affect their morph/drops/card/draw pools?I barely care for these things in these games, so it made almost no difference to me.
>>738248948I will agree that FF8 is one of the least bad examples of level scaling I've seen, in fact it might outright be the best version it could possibly be but do you really think FF8 wouldn't have been better if it didn't have it? If the game just had enemies with set levels that were properly paced for your progression through the game? Whenever I play FF8 I turn off all random encounters for basically the whole game as soon as I get the GF skill to do it and any game that makes me want to actively avoid literally playing it is not what I'd call well designed. Sure I could grind to 99 and still beat it but why would I?
>>738248940Well you picked the wrong time to do it cause I only called Squall an edgelord to point out the hypocrisy of the initial post I don't actually think he's an edgelord. Damn anon it's almost like context is important.
>>738245979I love the comedic tone of it.
>>738249203I don't even know how FF8 scaling works. There are those two islands with fixed level enemies. Then Ultimecia caps at 50 or 60 so you can technically grind and overpower the final boss.The enemies in the final dungeon have random levels, so they can be really weak or really strong.I honestly doubt anybody knew FF8 had any king of level scaling without looking up guides or datamining. In retrospect it's a bad system but I really doubt anybody hated FF8 because of that back then and even during the 2000s. Not even Spoony.
>>738246189The knight of a witch. The witch storyline from Disc 1 is peak gaming. After that it all gets pretty weird but Disc 1 was some of the best storytelling in games
>>738245979I played it so long ago I don't remember. Which is ironic.
>>738249602I'd say level scaling works best the less you realize it's there.
>>738247589Yea the soundtrack was quite good too
I feel like 8 gets way more hate than it deserves and 9 doesn't get enough hate.
>>738247528I like both games. 9 too. Even 13, 13-2 and 13-3 Lightning. I don't know why people think FF8 is better but as for me, the final Fantasy 13 trilogy really was good. I even read all the novels they made about it. 13 just had a magic. I've played every final Fantasy including 11, which is the most soulful MMORPG ever.
>>738249504Ultimately sounds like a (You) issue to me.
>>738250049Evidently not
>>738250019Time has heavily favored 9 where as the opposite for 8. Funny, really.
>>738245979Idk
>>738249759Graphics was insane for the time. I remember being blown away back in 1999. 9 and 7 also got good graphics but 8 did the whole steampunk sci fi fantasy really well
>>738250149FF8's backgrounds were something else entirely.
>>738250126...whatever...
>>73825001913 gets way too much hate. It's a damn good story, graphics. Yea I get the lack of open world was kind of gay but other than that, the game was amazing. 13-3 Lightning Returns also did a lot of good things. It was open world and had a very good atmosphere
>>738245979It has the best song in all of FFhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tpfp5_5Xjms
>>73825021213 tried to get away from "you just choose attack to win in JRPGs" meme and went overboard. Some encounters took literal minutes even playing well.At least boss battles were very good in general, despite the instakill bullshit Barthandelus could pull + insta game over if party leader fell.
>>738250212>It's a damn good storyIt was nonsensical trash, they went too futuristic with it, 8 hit the sweet spot.
>>738245979good musicgood settingturns to shit after dollet and fails to redeem itself in any waypraised by retarded zoomies
>>738250383>turns to shit after dolletyou didn't like the parade?
>>738245979Dog Canon
>>738245979it's a bad game but a good experience
>>738250478Yeah it's good, but there's a lot of slog to get there. I can't stand Timber and the gay ass train minigame.
>>738245979>Honest thoughts on Final Fantasy VIII(8)?It sucked.But that's fine. Not every game has to be amazing. Not every game has to be great. Hell, not every game has to be great or a lot of people to enjoy it. The game tried to have an overly complex story and very complex junction system. The game tried to be something other than "buy strongest weapon in town, travel to next town, buy next strongest weapon in town, kill god" format that was (and still is) very common in JRPGs. These aren't even negative things, just comments about how the game plays.It gets a lot of pointless hate for being different. Not every JRPG needs to involve grinding orks until your level 90. A lot of people bitch about the game without understanding its mechanics well. But it does a lot of things poorly, and people have justified reasons for not liking it or not wanting to play it again.FF8 fanboys are very obnoxious. Any fandom which blatantly ignores the obvious problems in a game and tries to pretend like they aren't there are some of the worst people.Squall has a cool jacket.
>>738246202It's a bit more widespread for 8 because the writing is so horrible, people mistakenly believe there must be some sort of hidden message in it.
>>738246486>a bunch of Japanese high schoolers in a giant flying school shaped like a gourdYour insane assumption relies on the idea that Square Soft Japan didn't care at all if Japanese people liked a Final Fantasy game and instead asked Americans what they'd like.FF8 is about a high school, except it's a super cool high school where classes are really fighting monsters and shit. The main character is totally edgy and has a super special weapon that's both a sword and a gun and eventually the headmaster of the school decides he should just be in charge. It's a 15 year old streaming word of consciousness on what they like.
>>738245979The first outright bad Final Fantasy in the series and the first sign that Square wasn't headed in the right direction after the success FF7. The story is about a group of teenagers written for teenagers, the romance of Squall and Rinoa barely works and the whole "orphanage" reveal feels so amateurish.
>>738247064They didn't fuck
>>738249759God that background looks blurry as fuck
>>738250303FF8's OST is one of the greatest in the series.
>>738245979It's alright. Level scaling was a retarded decision but once you know how to abuse the games systems it becomes a fun game to completely break and steamroll through.The games story is dogshit.Great music and I have still have fishermans horizon stuck in my head after all these years.
