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>new tank job: mace and shield
>new ranged dps job: Usopp

Your honest thoughts on the leaked jobs?
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I am disappointed but I have been wanting GEO as an elemental healer for the past two expansions and it didn't happen
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What XIV really needs is the Arithmetician, solving math equations of difficulty equal to the content you're doing.
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How do people even have friends in this game, let alone a group to do shit in? No one fucking talks.
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I think they should let me be viper in the free trial.
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The FUCK is a usopp
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>>738246613
Generals belong on /vg/
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>>738247447
He meant aesop
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>>738246768
Start progging ultimates and savages and thats how you find statics and friends bro
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@738246613
That you’re a mongoloid who believes a “””leak””” where every bit of info we got at Fanfest just disproved it more and more?
He didn’t even say flail was correct during the job guesses, if you try to use that as “proof”, he said morning star instead, alongside also saying hammer could be a possibility for the tank.
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>>738246702
I dont see why GEO would be a healer instead of magic DPS
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Gunshields and crossbow
Vanguard and hunter
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Blitzballer
and
Shieldblade
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>>738247447
eh wusopp, doc?
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>>738246768
Depends on you DC/region, also I have noticed that people in general have stopped talked more and more compared to say, Stormblood days. People just aren't as civilized and social anymore.
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LESS buttons to press
more action combo combat

finally
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>>738246613
New job will be ERP Maid with pegging weapon
Yoshi-P is finally focusing on the target audience
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>>738247814
>no white gloves
Cursed.
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>>738247649
Because you haven't done the AST quests where they show up and they're barrier healers.
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>>738246613
>usopp
Like the guy from one piece?
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>>738246768
games old now, everyone has their clicks only people left are groomers and trannies unironically
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I think slingshots could be fun, so I wouldn't be against it, but I'm wondering how it would thematically function compared to MCH. BRD and DNC do have their support aspect, so if it's a pure dps focused job, MCH would be the closest current thing.
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evolved jobs are gonna be so boring once the initial hype wears off
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>>738246613
>and shield
doubt
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me in EC
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>>738248085
Yeah. Ranged DPS is a slingshot user.
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>people still carrying on about the """"leak"""" that got the expansion name and the 7.5 story details wrong
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>faggots STILL clinging on to the leak where everything was proved wrong for "muh slingshot"
couldn't you have at least latched onto a weapon that wasn't incredibly lame instead
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>>738246613
Ranged job will probably be some watered down version of Corsair.
New tank should be some dodge based tank.
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>>738248931
>>738248978
The fact the dude quietly changed flail to mace in his "totally happening gaiz!1!" posts is what makes it
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>>738246613
SO GAY KING
SO GAY KING
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>>738248931
Holy fuck thankfully no one has called me out yet because I said rune fencer was the job and everyone that doubted me would owe me an apology once it was revealed.
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>>738246768
Join a guild. Or hang out in Limsa Lomensa. Either way, you don't really have to talk since they have dungeon and raid finder
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>>738248931
>>738248978
Seething
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>>738246613
shit if true also i despise usop anyway wont even play this shit until is in free trial in 2030
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anyone know what the Rocket Punch mount is from?
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>>738252531
most likely the last cosmic exploration planet
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>>738246768
Just join a active fc
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Holy shit clyteum theme is so fucking good https://youtu.be/07RXUexqMlY
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>>738247819
you can thank the influx of warcraft niggertroons for that. ever since the wowrefugee waves happened back in the days, things got way more unpersonal. back in HW and SB we had a tight-knit playerbase that never failed to greet and chat a bit in even dungeons. If you look at WoW, nobody greets anyone in dungeons.
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Bring back heavensward astro
Bring back HW scholar
Bring back old monk
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>>738246768
I played the trial last year up to Stormblood on multiple lv 70s and people were talking and befriending me the entire way as I played and I dont say shit to anyone lmao
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>>738253405
We're moving forward, not back
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>>738253405
Old monk was ass and unless the gcd starts at like 1.5 and gets faster the more GL you have I don’t want it
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>>738253405
I hope the new AST is all about cards.
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>>738253592
Forward and back and then go forward and back
And then go forward and back, then put one foot forward
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>pick up astrologian
>have no idea of what I'm doing
what the fuck is the carbuncle for if it does not attack?
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>dungeon roulette as healer
>It's stone vigil, holminster switch, or mt gulg with a sprout tank
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>>738253778
fake player KEK its a pet skin to remind you re suposedly a summoner but it does some shit with some spells/skills
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>>738253778
>AST
>carbuncle
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>>738253815
Sprout tanks only do pussy pulls.
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the new classes will be onion knight and mime.
history will exonerate me
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>>738246613
>YoshiP wears a Rhitahtyn shirt
>people theorizing it means tank job with two shields
>completely forget they aren't just shields
>they are GUN-Shields
>the shields are a red herring
dual pistol wielding Corsair confirmed.
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>>738254523
didn't they say it wouldn't be ff jobs?
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>>738254625
I hate Yoship so much if they said that
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>>738254598
Corsair is an XI job so it's not happening. We're getting "Bombardier" or something like that.
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>>738254598
Much as I think a gunshields tank job like Rhitahtyn would be cool, I very much doubt it'd be that straightforward as well.
Even the more obvious ones weren't direct. Dark Knight was pretty obvious to call, but it still was a Batman logo, and not a literal picture of a Dark Knight. Same for Machinist and the 007 shirt.
We don't talk about Samu Raimi.
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It's axe thrower, screen cap this
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>>738254625
damn
ok the new classes will be world of warcraft druid and mabinogi puppet master
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>>738254737
probably Cannoneer since we see the Phantom Job version of it in OC.
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>>738246702
>GEO
The shittest idea possible for a job it will never happen. Get fucked lmao.
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>>738253250
>chortposting
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>>738254937
Cannoneer is a 5GBA job.
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>>738254924
>mabinogi puppet master
Based
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I ended up adding a skirt so the boots bother me less
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>>738246613

Except that's wrong, dumb shit.

Image extremely related.
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>friend insists next ranged phys dps job should use a Crossbow
I just don't see it.
Like we already have one with a bow, and other with gun, what does the in-between weapon offer?
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>>738254924
puppeteer is already a thing, try again
Also its gunshield man and hunter
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>>738246613
you mean the leak that got the name wrong?
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It's gunshielder and shieldgunner
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>>738255349

People keep forgetting Yoshida is a mecha fan. Every single fucking time they keep forgetting.

He gave his best friend a MG Nu Gundam Gunpla kit on his death bed. The guy has mecha in his blood.
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There is no way its a slingshot job, that shit is so gay so there's no way they would add it, but then again they added pictomancer so maybe it's real.
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>>738255389
explosive bolts, elemental bolts etc
bolas and the like, its meant to be this survivalist hunter thing like freya from overwatch or whatever
Itll reuse the mch thing where your auto crossbow bolts stick into targets but go all in and make it a mechanic where certian bolts react with eachother
>embed lightning bolt
>hit with wind bolt
>cause a lightning storm as a secondary effect for aoe damage
>fire + earth will cause a dot
etc.
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>>738246613
Dreadnaught tank who summons big ass heavy magic armor would be cooler
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Weeba whos hoary boulders jp voice actor. I am basing evetything on that .

Viking tank
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Please save this post, the DPS job will be a gunner, but the pistols will be something like this.
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>>738254876
Would be cool as shit
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>>738247447

Slingshot. Usopp is just probably the most famous character on the planet who actually uses one contemporarily right now.
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>>738255729
Acceptable if he gets huge fucking hands as the "weapon"
I want to claw shit with huge fucking claws
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>>738255660
>its real
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Ok this was a kino fight, but how the fuck does a healer or tank is supposed to beat this lol
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REAL LEAK
>Puppetmaster limited job confirmed for patch 8.012 Part 6
>New control scheme will be called "Modern" in the final release
>2 new exploratory zones, harder than eureka and bozja combined, expected to take 1000 hours to beat the first area of just one zone
>New hourly quests
>Retracted/refracted UI
>1 new ultimate every patch
>New jobs are Black (uses ball and gun) and Valkyrie (uses shield and spear)
>Shared sub with 11, pay $3 extra to get access to both
>Story is the best since Shadowbringers, will make gamers regret their words and deeds
>Wuk_ is back
>Gacha style stamina system required for some quests to encourage logging in multiple time a day
>Cosmetics from FFXIV mobile are being ported to the main game
Screencap this. Everything here and more will be revealed at EU fanfest. No word on what they are saving for JP fanfest but it's huge
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>>738246768
How the fuck do you NOT have friends in this game? You can't go 5 seconds in a starter city without some cocksucker trying to rope you into his/her/them FC
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ffxiv is gay
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>>738255763
that's just dps sage
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>Screencap this
>Mash that boookmark tab button
>Hit that archive site save
No
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>>738255859
Healer and tank dps isn't really THAT much lower than dps dps
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>>738255660
IT'S PICKLE CHORT
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>>738256021
you wil regret it when my real leak is getting shared everywhere and you wish you had proof u were in on the ground floor
my leak is real btw my uncle works for CN QA test team and in china they have no law against leaking or steal japanese work.
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>>738255859
This might surprise you, but healers can heal and tanks don't die, all these types of fights just go 10% slower
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My hope is just any vaguely Garlean themed Marshall job regardless of weapon. Maybe incorporate some cool banners. And either dual crossbow or dual throwing axes selfish ranged DPS.
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>>738254112
my bad I meant the arcanist class
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>FF1 jobs
Knight
Ninja
Master Monk
White/Black/Red Wizards
>FF3
Onion Knight
Freelancer
Ranger
Scholar
Geomancer
Dragoon
Evoker
Dark Knight
Viking
Bard
Summoner
Sage
>FF5
Blue Mage
Time Mage
Berserker
Mystic Knight
Samurai
Mime
Beastmaster
Dancer
Chemist
Necromancer
Cannoneer
Gladiator
Oracle
>FFT
Orator
Calculator
>FFTA
Paladin
Illusionist
Defender
Templar
>FF11
Corsair
Puppetmaster
Rune Fencer
And this is all not getting into the more unique archetypes from some games like Gambler and Machinist, or the one-off Jobs like Pictomancer (Relm from 6), Gunbreaker (Squall and Seifer from 8), or the NUMEROUS character-exclusive jobs from the Tactics games.
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>>738246613
>mace and shield
Spear and shield would be infinitely cooler.
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>>738256169
garelnigger larpers still coping after they said the expansion would be ilsabard slop. Lmao
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>>738246768
join a free company or use community finder to find a static for prog. of course no one is going to talk in the middle of a dungeon most of the time, they're just there for chores
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>>738255859
Is cape Westwind a solo instance now? When was that changed
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>>738255816
>have to catch the axes too
Mr. Prime is a leaguechad, he could make it happen as long as the engine supports it
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>>738253815
i find most of the HW dungeons to be worse because half of the sprout tanks are still wearing pre-ironworks level 50 gear for some reason
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>>738255389
Crossbow is a different beast, it can absolutely work. See pic related
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>>738256236
Keeeek.
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>>738256314
6.1
Alongside Praetorium being made 4-man and separated from the Ultima Weapon fight (4-man trial) and Lahabrea becoming a solo duty.
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>>738253815
>its a pld that refuses to clemency themselves and barely use their mitigations
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>>738247447
that's GOD Usopp to you, heretic
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man is this faggot ever gonna fuck off
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>>738256470
>refuses to clemency themselves
Actually literally your job
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>>738254130
but when I die it's the healer's fault for not healing me
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Playable Chort race when?
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>>738256467
I pity new players who don't get to enjoy the classic 8man Prae runs with unskippable cutscenes that would take nearly an hour.
a bit of the game's soul died with the changes.
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>>738256564
Then why does PLD have it?
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>>738253250
Artcore in FF14 was NOT on my bingo card
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJuCqeuf6mU
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>>738256634
They are absolutely making a minion of this fat fucking chort, aren't they?
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>>738256553
Stop giving it attention, he's a mentally ill weirdo. Just leave him to his bridge antics.
On the bright side he'll never voice a character in the game again, the voice acting studio that was hired for Dawntrail was dropped by Square Enix for FF14.
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>>738256635
I envy new players who get to fight Rhitahtyn to the death and have Hydaelyn save them like 5 different times during the Ultima Weapon fight then give them a super saiyan power boost so they can defeat Lahabrea.
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>>738246613
I quit playing around Dawntrail cause the MSQ was lame and gay. Are the patches worth playing through the rest of DT? Also should I start grinding my Paladin. It's very low level after all.
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>>738256197
>FF1
All reduntant and we already have Ninja, tf you on about?
>FF3
All of those redundant too, but I can see it being Viking considering the setting, they said it'll be a "FFXIV Original" but I can see them take the name and do something new with it, also, I don't think Viking as showed up in any other mainline FF game, has it?
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>>738256634
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>>738256553
you're the one following his twitter
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>>738256648
To heal a party member after the healer is dead
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>>738256674
That or a mount.
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>>738256706
>the voice acting studio that was hired for Dawntrail was dropped by Square Enix for FF14.
real?
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>>738255237
looks nice sis good job
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>>738256751
wrong
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>>738256790
Yes real, they went back to SIDE UK.
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itll be a minion named chortle
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>>738256553
FFXIV would do us a service to ban this faggot and prevent his presence from being a stain on the franchise. They need to outright blacklist him.
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>>738255349
>>738255516

Glad people are picking up the early pile bunker vibes already.
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>>738256564
if a pld is severely undergeared and does a wall-to-wall pull in earlyish content they can die even after the healer pulls out all their cards and has to resort to spamming gcd healing out of desperation
its something that happens a lot more often thank you think since a lot of them never use clemency even though they have the mana for it
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>>738256859
Source? Because my penis needs this.
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>>738256470
Spamming Holy Circle has almost the same MP efficiency than clemency and only does a bit less damage than the AoE combo.
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>>738255389
Being the gayest weapon in existence.
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>>738256635
No, this was awful and it was even worse before this shit
>Finally enter Praetorium, the end of the MSQ is here!
>Get added with a bunch of fuckers who are only there for roulette
>They speed up ahead while you watch your cutscenes
>You eventually get lost
>Miss out on most boss fights
>Unceremoniusly get teleported to fight Ultima Weapon who has 1/4 HP left
>"Just watch the custcenes later at the inn, bro"

Fuck that shit, what a way to kill momentum and have MSQ end like a wet fart, I am glad we got best of both worlds now, unskippable cutscenes but also streamlined experience.
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>>738256863
Actually works pretty well. Would be typical Koji Fox stuff.
I chortled.
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>>738256795
Thanks bro
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>>738256951
All they really need to do for the end of 2.0 right now is getting rid of that cringy scene where the spirits of your allies show up and then fly at Lahabrea while going "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"
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Do you think they can actually do the Evangelion crossover tastefully in a way that makes sense in the setting or will it actually be full on mechasloppa? Yes im aware of the weapon series, that was bad too.
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>>738256729
Sure but you can wait for the new Tank to be released as that will probably start at level 100. Just finish DT and get it over with.
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>>738247575
Those aren't friends, those are coworkers
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>>738246613
>mace and shield
I think that's fake unless it's like tower shield and mace
but what do I know? If you told me TWO SWORDS would be the new scouting job I would have told you that's too aesthetically similar to double daggers on ninja.
not a LoL fan but pic is what I want from the tank job
>Usopp
sounds like fun
nothing super high concept or weird but more unique than a crossbow or whatever
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>>738256553
Thank you for sharing this 50 view tweet to a wider audience, I appreciate it.
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>>738256729
7.1 sucks except for the very end
7.2 and beyond is fine
Arcadion is cool, the Variant Advanced is kinda neat, Pilgrim's Traverse (if you like Deep Dungeons) is cool, Occult Crescent is whatever, but it exists.
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>>738257026
It will be lvl 80 or 90 most likely
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>>738246613
The leak got almost everything wrong except for a couple of easily predicted systems changes that we were all expecting. It's fake.
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>>738256634
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>>738256930

Guts and Slave Knight Gael say hi.
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>>738246613
>new ranged dps job: Usopp
So that job going to get ditched in its own expansion pack as well?
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>yoship wears a "look who's back" tshirt featuring a dual wielding roegadyn
>musketeer's guild in Limsa still unused
>animations already in the game
>devs are aware of the high demand for Corsair last expansion
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>>738256930
Gae blog
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>>738257247
>Idolfag
>Hobo scavenger
Grim
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>Square Enix and LGBTQ types accuse right wingers of being harassers
>No proof is ever shown
>Left wingers claimed to be victims
>Now the tide has turned, the mask has come off and proof has come out that those who were calling one side harassers, were in fact doing the harassing.

There's now account after account posting proof of FFXIV terminal defenders on twitter of the harassment they've been facing.
https://x.com/XenosysVex/status/2051659009657106760
https://x.com/HMBohemond/status/2051313563839365217
https://x.com/V3RYJOSH/status/2050421504165417416
https://x.com/llamatodd/status/2051398723117121579
https://x.com/DblCheeseburger/status/2051412479591305441

Meanwhile I've no seen a single instance of 'Right wingers' harassing LGBTQ types or the staff of SE, but there are more is screen cap after screen cap of terminal Dawntrail and Sena Bryer defenders harassing people.
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Ok i have to say that I’m impressed by how detailed they explain you most raid mechanics on hall of novice, kudos to the devs
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>>738257286
Sorry chud you already wasted guns on Mashittist
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>>738257018
>remove the kino from my anime game to make it more appealing to normalfags
No, you silly goose lmao
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>>738257327
who cares, XIV won, wuk won, you lost
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>>738246758
People can't even into prime numbers.
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>>738257339
we've had one gun yes
but what about second gun?
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So, are we gonna see FF14 models of them? Are plugsuits gonna be rewards?
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>they will just reuse the Ozma model for a bunch of the angels
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL looking forward to it
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>>738257327
To the surprise of nobody. This is the tactic they always resort to because they've always gotten away with it and people just fold under pressure
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>>738256232
spears are just so unromantic.
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>>738257327
Sena matters more to FFXIV than all of those idiotic chuds combined.
>wahhhh but muh terminally online twitch strimmer said wuk bad
Sena is IN the game. Cope, seethe and cry about it.
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>>738257327
Bro kys
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>>738257573
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>>738257327
>underaged retard eceleb worshipping and /pol/fagging
Summer is supposed to be a month away
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>>738256553
how does it not feel any shame? imagine doing such a piss-poor job and you have to leave and you still show up at the entrance and pretend you good with them? lmao
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>>738257510
but Leliel is the only ball angel and we aren't gonna fight that one
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>>738257625
Not an argument.
Is PedosysVex in the game? Strokin Todd? Does anyone outside of their terminally online parasocial fanbase know who they are? No. No. No.
Wuk is the sidekick of the whole expansion. If you play XIV tomorrow or in 10 years, you will meet Wuk and hear Sena's VA.
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>>738257664
Hello Freddy Las Malvinas will always be The Falklands.
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>>738246613
>new tank job: literally all of paladins skills but with a hammer
>new ranged dps job: literally all of mch skills but with non-mechanical ranged weaponry
I dunno anon you tell me.
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>>738257327
wait xeno is BASED?
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>>738257767
No he's completely retarded
It's just that you'd have to be an actual cultist to defend anything to do with those two.
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>>738257327
I can smell you through the screen.
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Hoary should join A team and rep the new tank job.
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>>738257390
That shit isn't kino.
It's cringe.
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Thank god asmonfucknigoldstein dropped this game
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>>738257905
I wish they at least gave him a beard. The pink hair is bad enough
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>>738257767
Xeno is DESPERATE for attention. His personality and all his takes are cynically manufactured. Streamers were a mistake.
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>>738246613
Don't care. Staying Black Mage when I play through Shadowbringers when the free-trial period for "subscribers" (people that played the PS3 beta and Square is retardedly thinking we subbed) happens, then dropping the game until the next expansion is free.
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>>738257510
>WoL sees an eva unit and gets super excited to pilot a giant robot again
>after the fight they see it without the armor and realize it's the other type of mecha anime
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>>738256232
Sit down, you already have a spear job. We NEED a dedicated mace/hammer user with satisfying bonk sounds, the few maces you can glam don't feel weighty at all.
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>>738257767
He’s a story skipping tranny who thinks being a raidfag has value. I’m glad YoshiP dabbed all over the trash portion of the game
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>>738257465
no, we're gonna have an eva collab without any eva characters or gear showing up haha
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>>738246758
That's part of the Matsuno Raid #1.
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>>738258086
baste
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>>738258051
>other type
It’s a melodramatic character drama. The same way Gundam/patlabor etc are
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>>738246758
We already had a basic maths boss people struggle with, even the guy who designed it admitted he's terrible at maths.
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>>738258080
Why you just swing it like a sword or axe
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>>738257992
I hate all streamers tbf. The only one I begrudgingly tolerate is MrBrappy because he dresses up his opinions the least out of all of them.
Unfortunately I heard he was actively pushing for a free story skip with Evercold so fuck him on that one.
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>>738257465
>random teens walking around
That would be extra retarded
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>doing cosmic exploration shit in phaenna.
its actually pretty nice I like it
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>>738257767
He's a raidfag so no.
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>>738246613
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>>738258051
>So the Eva unit is the same type of stand as the G warrior
As if evas could surpass the abominations allag made
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>>738257465
it's gonna be random FF XIV NPCs that are stand-ins for the plot beats
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>>738258209
I don't watch any of them but I respect Zepla a bit for saying DT is shit and playing other games instead, and only coming back to XIV for a week around each major patch.
All the other personalities play XIV 12 hours a day and rapidly become deranged.
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>>738246613
Kinda want a yo-yo Ranged DPS desu.
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>>738258356
nice i can finally be accurate with my bridget glam
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>>738258216
it was okay when Prishe did it
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>>738258356
Yo yos are melee weapons
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is normal that i want to make minfilia a mother?
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>>738246613
and now just add ass sliders
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>>738256021
What's wrong, chud? Don't want to be a part of history?
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>>738258162
Patlabor movies and show are very different.
The show is part slice of life, part battle shonen.
The movies are Oshii self-insert philosophy slop.
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>>738258462
She's already a mother to the 7 or so oracles of light of the first
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>>738258162
TRUE
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>>738257758
Nobody will actually care or take notice when it actually happens. They will call it new and exciting anyway
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>>738258192
Not really. Tailored animations for a mace would be bashing, not slashing or cleaving. Just think of the Pictomancer's cartoon hammer, that animation would be ridiculous with a sword. And a whole different theme with the sounds, with thuds and bonks.
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>>738258483
you will never get some ghetto baboon ass
the most you will get is like a pert butt
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>>738256553
Chortbros, it's been a good run, but I think it's over...
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>>738258523
I know I’ve watched patllabor
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>>738257327

Its always been this way, for ten fucking years. They constantly play the victim, constantly act like they're the minority who deserve to be listened to over people simply speaking sense and pragmatic logic. But in the end they're still the loudest most obnoxious voice just screeching away at their "oppressors" every time.

They would have more dignity and ground to stand on if they were remotely rational or thoughtful towards others. But nope, they're just conceited and projecting 24/7.
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>>738257465
>Are plugsuits gonna be rewards?
First sets will be plugsuits
Then the second part will have armor based on Eva Units
then final tier will be maybe Angel inspired I'm guessing
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>>738258346
Zepla's the same, she went completely insane after fudging TOP
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>>738258209
The fact that Evolved Mode is being designed with all the core actions by level 50, seems like they won't ever have free skips. XIV's focus was never "OMG YOU MUST CATCH UP FOR THE """ENDGAME"""".
There was a time they were contemplating it, a free skip to 6.1, which is why that's when the Codex was introduced, and the quests for that arc was like reintroducing you to each Scion, and by 6.5 the arc finished. It would've been like a mini ARR with some boss battles and a final boss (Zeromus).
On that note about Brappy, I’m glad he got fit. I’ve been on a health schizo kick myself, and got control of my bowels again after years of suffering. And I was pretty thin too. Seed oils isn’t a meme. It sucks.
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>>738258647
They cannot take chort from us.
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>removes one party member from each alliance to engage in psychological contact for the duration of the encounter
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>>738258690
>Then the second part will have armor based on Eva Units
Mite b kino
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>>738253250
>>738256634
>>738256742
>>738256856
>>738257235
It's like they know the latest FFXIV memes.
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>>738246613
Ranged DPS is actually going to be Marshal. The lyrics on Yoshi's t-shirt were marshal Mathers lyrics. Evercold is what seems to be a remix of heavensward. Heavensward was supposed to introduce musketeer as a dual wielding ranged physical class. It will be repurposed for Evercold and learned in shaaloani. Dual wielding small arms and maybe bombs.
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Chort is a vaultry shard
Vaultry isn't fuckhuge because or aether addiction and neither is chort. They're just naturally like that
The hero If the fourth will be another vaultry shard -thor- and he will be just as huge. He will be our party member for the expansion
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>>738258742
If someone wants to skip they should have to pay for it and fund the game, since they will most likely quit shortly after anyway. Though I would prefer no skips at all. Hell if I was in charge I would make all cutscenes unskippable the first time just to fuck with raiders too. There is no point in the story where a new player could skip to and it make sense.
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>>738258742
>The fact that Evolved Mode is being designed with all the core actions by level 50, seems like they won't ever have free skips. XIV's focus was never "OMG YOU MUST CATCH UP FOR THE """ENDGAME"""".
That's exactly it. And also the trial expanding by an expansion every expansion. Because yeah, the game gets longer, but you can also do more of it for free. 80 levels of playing for free with a total of 110 levels once EC drops.
I get it's probably going to be increasingly daunting as more and more expansions are added, but frankly, I don't want them to make story skips baseline because that molds the community. It'll only attract a bunch of lobby gamers who want to rush to le endgame meme and do bing bing wahoo.
Already, we've seen a switch from "wowee i get to do 10 whole years of content!?!!?!" to "boo i need to do 10 years of homework :("
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>>738258941
>There is no point in the story where a new player could skip to and it make sense.
The most hilarious part is that a lot of people seem to push for either 6.x or Dawntrail to be the new starting point.
So okay, I didn't hate 6.x or Dawntrail with all my guts, but you've been sitting here watching an entire expansion of people complaining about the game being killed by said expansion, and you're going to suggest that THAT should be the new starting point? That should be the first thing people are thrown into?
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>>738258808
Unit 01 will be Fending
Unit 02 as Striking
00 as Aiming
etc
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>>738258690
I want Misato's outfit
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>>738253250
Will they ever fix this shitty netcode?
This video just reminded me of it.
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>>738258934
And don't forget that /V/authry is the janny as well.
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>>738258417
Yes
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>>738259043
Makes sense.
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>>738259103
He is the 4th's Vauthry.
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>>738258941
All that being said the MSQ does need improvements. They will never make it so the solo duties can be done co-op. But what they can do is
>Let a high level player sync up with low level player's MSQ progress
>Let players sync cutscenes while in party so the recruiter can watch it with their sprout friend
>Maybe some mild trimming of more filler content quests in expansions
>A story recap system like in Dragon Quest (was that only in DQ11?) where you can click a button and the game is like "WHERE YOU LAST LEFT OFF YOU HAD DEFEATED KING THORDAN AND NOW YOU ARE HEADED TO-"
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>>738258209
Alienate ANYONE who says that a story skip (e.g., the one that you pay for) is needed. They are wowbrained hylics that only care for "endgame"; they simply cannot imagine people enjoying a story, Irony poisoned if you will.
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>>738258934
or xiv just has lazy devs that recycle model skeletons endlessly
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>>738259214
I do. Unironically if I find out someone I met skipped or skips current MSQ to rush raiding I just stop talking to them.
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>>738257767
Yes he's Based and all the replies you got was a single guy responding to you, samefagging, he's called Freddy and he's absolutely obsessed with Sena Bryer and by obsessed I mean in love obsession. He's a real weirdo.
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>>738259214
In some MMOs, it might not be the case, but in XIV, story is genuinely a part of the entire product, which is a big part of how when a story MSQ blows, it can ruin the entire expansion for them.
Maybe not everyone feels that way, but they are still the exception and shouldn't impose their exception on the norm.
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>>738258941
Advocating Endwalker or Dawntrail as a new jumping off point is really funny because even with the Unending Codex being added and giving a brief overview of characters, they don't give you enough information that you're not going to be hopelessly lost on what's going on, who people are, where you are, and why your character should even care
>>738259279
People make this complaint about Monster Hunter too, reusing rigs a lot is smart developing, not lazy developing
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>tfw remembering what we lost in the original pruning just to cater to WoWfags who ended up quitting like the Tataru mining quest or the Scion banter in the Sylphlands
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>>738257883
What you're smelling is yourself, go and have a wash you dirty fuck.
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How are you going to have the Azem Crystal or the skibidi key if you didn't do ShB or DT?
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>>738258690
I want casual eva outfits
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>>738259405
how do you even know what the fuck are you doing on eorzea if you didn't do 1.0?
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this is what the game needs more of
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>>738259462
I want a purge of all uninspired, modern, contemporary slop outfits from the same. Sadly, that'll never happen, and your wish is pretty much 100% guaranteed to happen. Fucking of course they'll add the school uniform from Eva.
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>>738259512
People told me I have a big penis like one of those guys who disappeared when a scary dragon came out of an egg.
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>>738246613
Any bets on which (if any) NPCs will be repping the new jobs? Outside of new MSQ characters, I could see Thancred and Red Alphinaud making a switch
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>Let players skip to DT since its supposed the start of a new arc
>Except you need to know who the Scions are, who the fuck these Ascians are, why the city states are calling you CHAMPION- I mean WoL
>Why am I am unkillable godslayer to these people?
>What is this shiny rock im carrying?
>Who is Zenos?
>What happened to this Garlean empire?
>Whats a Allagan?
>Why can I teleport to the end of the universe?
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>>738259526
no it doesn't
fuck off
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>>738259578
Hoary Boulder will join the main team as the new tank, trust the plan.
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>>738259214
i agree.

BUT. i'll make an exception for dawntrail. have the skip drop you off at 7.4 instead of 8.0
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>>738259613
with...Aeonor?
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>>738259526
me on the right
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>>738259564
good, now just add an hologram of emet smellch debriefing you about the cum chalice and the gummy candy and we're good for the skip
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>>738259581
>>738259405
that's why they implemented the in-game loredump encyclopedia. the one nobody opened because they either don't care and cutscene skipped, or have no reason to open because they were paying attention.
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>>738259512
2.0 shows you getting carted in from outside the continent albeit
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>>738259526
If only it wasn't pedophilia.
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>>738246613
I tried this game, played through a boring-ass singleplayer story for 200 hours and wasn't even close to reaching endgame. Who is this game for?
>it gets better 500 hours in!
Fuck you, I'm not falling for that again.
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>>738259768
where the fuck did the wol come from
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>>738259832
thats for you to decide
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>>738258934
I remember Yoshi-P hinting in an interview that Vauthry was originally a pretty decent dude but was driven mad by the sin-eater half of him. It would be pretty cool to meet a good shard of him to see what could have been.
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so what's the timeframe for expansion? I'm already far behind so I'm on like one job but I wont need to level the others if I want to play in groups now?
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>>738259649
She will be the new range, she already admitted in the recent msq patch shes a terrible bard so it gives her an excuse to change jobs.
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>>738259581
And why am I being tailed by this unlikeable furry?
>that's why they implemented the in-game loredump encyclopedia.
I'm not going to watch boring cutscenes for this story. I'm going to...
... Read a dry writeup of the story and its characters instead.
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>>738259808
>Who is this game for?
Clearly not you, if you weren't enjoying your 200 hours. The game is not about rushing to the end, there's so much shit in between you'll miss if you do that it isn't even worth investing your time in if you aren't interested.
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>>738259914
I'd be totally down for that
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>>738259917
>>738259758
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>>738259808
People who like single player RPGs but also online co-op stuff I imagine.
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>>738259937
>The game is not about rushing to the end
Yeah especially because once you get there you find out 99.9% of the content is superfluous and offers nothing of any value to reward your time
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>>738259903
January release, Early September for .55, Kefka ultimate next month.
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>>738259937
I don't get people who just try to do MSQ all the way to endgame. Like, take a break at the expansion caps to do the content that was endgame for it. My friend did that and we had a blast
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>>738259808
>Who is this game for?
Not for you, apparently.
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>>738257905
with him getting voice acting this patch, that's what I'm thinking will happen since changing one of the mage scions to a physical job is very unlikely, thancred has the "can't use aether" thing that's mitigated by gunbreaker and estinien can't be anything but a dragoon
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>>738259917
illiterate huh? then just go to the inn and watch the cutscenes? where problem?
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>>738246768
>>738247819
i just did a frontline today. complete silence. no "hello", no callouts, no "gg", nothing. felt awkward being the only one to say anything. compare that to 2 years ago when i last played where many would say hi/gg and callout spam.
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>>738258523

We need more casual mecha franchises like Patlabor. Stories where the actual mecha comes second to the casual comedy theatrics of daily budgeted cop life on the streets in a city.
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>>738260043
>Like, take a break at the expansion caps to do the content that was endgame for it.
This is always what I suggest as well.
Do the side content you unlock after finishing an expansion before moving on, unless you really, really wanna do the MSQ.
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>*gives you essential dignity*
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>>738260029
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>>738259578
Alisaie i feel is the scion most likely to get a new job, and her being a tank would fit her personality. but she isn't a mace/flail type. so unless the tank has a crossbow or a yoyo i don't think that is gonna happen.

Hoary Boulder has several voiced lines and is the only B team scion to do so (at least since Arenveld was escorted off the property), is already a gladiator so him becoming a more advanced tank would fit, and we're missing a big dude who's good at tactics

before 7.5 i'd have said Halmarut was a good guess for a ranged dps, but she seems to be sticking to the standard immortal lich moveset and motivations.

its entirely possible that we'll be getting a new OC for 7.56: Estinien was put into the MSQ then, Gosetsu, the Crystal Exarch and Wuk Lamat were all introduced in those various iterations.

Finally, the voidsent boss of Clyteum would make an excellent puppetmaster. maybe he'll become sexy like Zero did
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>>738254737
I brought this up with some friends and one of them brought up the point that it being described as a 14 original job doesn't necessarily mean it can't have a similar weapon or moves as a past job or character. Viper was another one they described as a 14 original and it's got a LOT of similarities to Zidane
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>>738259832
Your WoL is implied to come from their race's original homeland a couple times, but could have come from basically anywhere on the planet
https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/One_with_Nature
Shepetto in one of the cat injun quests for 7.0 associates your race with a smell that vaguely describes their original stated homeland, like associated Au Ra with the Azim Steppe through the smell of long grass or associating Viera with the smell of foreign pine trees
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>>738260064
I feel like if you don't like a story game, the best thing to do is not play a story game.
Failing that, grit your teeth and cutscene skip or pay for a skip.
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>>738259214
I'm gonna be honest I would not blame anybody for using a skip that takes you from the final credits screen of endwalker to somewhere suitable after dawntrail if SE ends up offering it
the experience outside of content is pure misery and I wouldn't want anybody else going through it, I'm not that evil
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>>738259980
This can apply to every video game. Hell, literally everything if you're nihilistic enough. The only things that matter to you are the things you apply value to, anon.
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>>738260029
ocher and hoary not talking about their trysts with aenor whatsoever kills me
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>>738259980
>99.9% of the content is superfluous and offers nothing of any value to reward your time
How about fun
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>>738259581
Just put a quick establishing cutscene for skippers before they start the new expansion
>these are your allies
>this is the world
>garlemald has fallen
>the world was sundered into 14 shards long ago
>the power of azem blah blah blah
easy
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>>738260029
>>738260126

THE CHARGES, OFFICER?
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>>738260308
You could summarize the major events of XIV in a 10 minute video sure, but it would probably leave you with a ton more intricate questions. But then again people who skip dont typically care about plot.
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>>738260312
Last name COCKBURNE
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>>738260308
Never heard of anything more soulless, to be honest.
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>>738260224
>what the fuck is this crystal i keep pulling out
>what do you mean there was something important in dawntrail
>this was supposed to be the expansion i could skip
>rrrreeeeeeeeeeeeee
i have a vision of a great and terrible future
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>>738259629
I wonder if I should just SKIP the DT story cause I dropped the game around the time when they forced me to cook for wuk lamat and see her take all the credit while not even doing anything.
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>>738259808
Its for insane fanatics and “story” fags. Its not a game. You had to get into it by SB minimum if you wanted to enjoy the game, after SHB is when all the storyfags came and started saying you sub to the game to read a story.
Even if you were interested in the endgame grind, its basically typical fomo shit you do for “achievements” and raiding is a completely uninteresting repetitive thing to do at this point, its basically just memorization. You do a choreographed dance for several hours where 1 fuck up from 1 guy out of 8 means restarting until you learn it.
Jobs are all carbon copies of each other where the entire joy out of playing a job comes entirely from how it looks like and not its mechanical depth.
Its not even an rpg despite most people telling you its a jrpg, there are 0 rpg elements.
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>>738260043
That's how I experience every time I fall behind. I will go and do all the side shit before progressing into anything new, unlock the features and shit. I might not totally complete the grinds, like I still have Eureka areas to finish, but I'll get them started and see what it's about.
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>>738260308
I think cutscene skippers should never be catered to and should have their fingers slammed in a car door for suggesting they should be
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>>738260126
we need a subplot where aenor gets cucked and it turns out clemence was banging the roebros the whole time
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>>738252531
Some anons say next PVP battle pass
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>Hoary Boulder this
>Aenor that
fuck off Big C is coming with us instead
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>>738260397
Just put in a short video summary or something of how you got the crystal, and a window of supplementary info afterwards of the general events of dawntrail, that's all that should be needed really
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>>738260486
There is no cucking Aenor, she would just suggest everyone go at it together
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>>738260312
Being the most 1-dimensional boring ass character around.
>at the start
Roe cocklust
>in 7.5 after hearing that everyone might be doomed
Roe cocklust
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>>738260520
>oh it turns out dawntrail actually has pertinent stuff for next expac huh
>fuckin uhhhhhhhhhhh
>youtube summary on 2x speed it for me jamie
CRINGE
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>>738260506

We already have 4 Elezen in the Scions. They're too based and kino not to involve i know but...
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>>738260558
You have to respect a woman that wants to be completely smothered by men.
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>>738260558
Is there anyone Arnor wont fuck?
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I have shard fatigue. Let us go to the Roe volcano or something, shit.
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>>738260420
This reads like a guy who didnt play the game and just read articles about it and some angry twitter posts.
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>>738260291
Once I clear a fight a few times cleanly I'm already bored of it
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>>738260506
We already have to malezen in the Scions. If we really need more elves at least give me Hilda.
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>>738260506
Of course Coultenet is going to come with us, why the fuck would he and his bro Hoary split up
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It should be a skip PAST Dawntrail, not TO Dawntrail. Imagine 40 hours of Wuk Lamat being your first experience of the game before you're allowed to play with your friends who've been telling you how good the story and the world are.
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>>738260420
>its basically just memorization. You do a choreographed dance
i don't mind learning a fight like a piece of music as long as i'm responsible for my own mistakes. unfortunately,
>for several hours where 1 fuck up from 1 guy out of 8 means restarting
this is FUCKING retarded and is just done to pad """play time""". also fuck body checks
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>>738260460
Trvke.
Buy a skip and be fucking quiet, rat.
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We need a Roe and a Au Ra. Hoary is the obvious one though I wish we had Gosetsu. I dont see Yugiri having a reason to join us. Maybe the not-Odin Au Ra will be friendly.
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>>738260695
That's what skippers deserve.
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>>738260643
I was going to say the same thing.
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>>738260575
listen man only like 3% of dawntrail is worth giving a damn about, it is genuinely not worth being culturally enriched and retreading the end of DT but worse in every way which wasn't even that great in the first place, all with wuk lamat's retardation being voice by a person from kentucky putting on the most racist latina voice possible, if they didn't pay attention to a summary video it's not SE's fault
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>>738260792
If you can't be assed to pay attention to Dawntrail I genuinely don't think you can be assed to pay attention to a Tiktok summary video, let alone "the good stuff"
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>>738260643
Played it since ARR. i still remember when Selene had 30% skill/spell speed buffs. Healer was actually the funnest role to play back then, whm had to actually use gcd heals, astrologian was the best class ever during hw, I want to go back.
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>>738260695
>before you're allowed to play with your friends
You don't need to be in or past Dawntrail to be able to do PoTD, dungeons, trials, older raid series, etc. with your friends.
Invoking the "before i can play with muh frends" phrase just reeks of regurgitated retardation and paints the only relevant content in the game to be [most current raid tier] [most current ultimate] [most current criterion]. i.e. you're outing yourself as a raidtard who only cares about being groomed as your friend's new pliant little static healsissy because he's tired of having to pf a healer.
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>>738260606
>Urianger
>Estinien
>Alphinaud
>Alisaie
I almost want to say the twins don't count because they're unique Elezens in that they're still teens, something you yourself can't be in the game so they're uncommon character models.
But I get your point.
Elezens are simultaneously the most represented in the Scions and least represented by the players choosing them as character models even though they are my favourite race.
This fan base are too obsessed with cat girls they can mod and goon over, having them ride dildos while saying your name.
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>>738260506
For me, it was the old dude chilling with his doman bros
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>>738259581
so? If a player cared about the story then they wouldn't use the skip, not giving the option is simply a paternalist take and treating people as if they were children.

Some people don't give a shit about the story and they have heard that the trials and raids of FFXIV are very fun and want to try them out. The story is a single player experience. I don't see how prohibiting other people from skipping it would affect yours
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>>738260506
Honestly at this point I want all the B team to become the A team. Give us a break from the same fucking Scions for twenty years, even just for an expansion. I'm sick of the twins and I'm bored of Y'shtola.
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>>738252531
Rare drop from ancient records on the new planet. Same as the red moai mount.
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>>738260643
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>>738260312
>tfw you get to have sexless adventures all over the place while Aenor is the designated porn game protagonist of XIV
it's not fair
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>>738260638
Your WoL.
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>>738246613
Did you even watch fanfest?
Tank is Garlean Gunshield
DPS is a whip
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>>738260947
dont you fucking bring this cancer upon us
the ancient records shit sucks dick
having to haul ass all over a zone to do basically treasure maps and only 1 out of 3 types of records is worth anything and even that one has only 2 good items in its loot table surrounded by a bunch of dogshit like ufiti horns is garbage
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>>738260939
You just had 1 expansion where the scions literally disappeared and had Wuk Lamat, Sphene and Erenville as the main characters, and now you are complaining?
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>>738260937
I don't think you're being treated like a child if the game doesn't give you the option to skip two years of itself
Endgame rushers are autists
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>>738260506
B team needs a wardrobe revamp
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>>738260937
Because they are. The MSQ is gatekeeping, and thats a good thing. Reading makes you smarter. The MSQ makes you more invested in the game as a whole. Most people who do buy skips just quit shortly after. I want people to "earn" the right to be around me in endgame content unironically.
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>>738260937
If they don't give a shit, they can grit their teeth and cutscene skip or pay for a skip.
I don't XIV to become the game where it becomes a normalized and default part of the player experience.
You're literally pulling a
>But how does this affect you personally?
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>>738261030
Yoshida's shirts are rarely that obvious. Hes not going to just wear a shirt that says "THIS IS THE NEW JOB RIGHT HERE". Its usually some cryptic puzzle or reference.
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>>738246613
Not time mage. I don't care. Give me my boy. No, Astro is not time mage. The LEAST they could have done was added the outfit in the Tactics raid.
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>>738261137
Reaper was literally just him wearing a grim reaper t-shirt. He gave up on the creative stuff.
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>>738260659
Then stop doing it. It isn't like you need the gear for anything. You can literally just after it stops being fun.
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>>738261137
I think it's a dueling shield
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>>738260939
yeah bro i cant wait for the new main characters
roe man
other roe man
hyur chick who has only one thought in her brain: getting dicked down by roe man, no matter what the situation is
other hyur chick who wants first hyur chick to stop thinking about getting dicked down by roe man
they'll need a lot of buildup before I'll tolerate having to spend an entire expansion with their cardboard asses.
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>>738261062
>I want to skip the story
>Why?
>I don't like it and I want to just do the pve content
>Nah, just do the story bro
>why
>because I say so

It's the same shit you say to a child when you just want him to do something you "believe" it's better for them.

All in all, giving a story skip option would change nothing. And honestly, if it was for DT, I would be the first one to buy it
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>>738253778
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79pOfw7bw7M
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>>738261138
There's a Time Mage artifact in Occult Crescent, I'm afraid it's over anon
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>>738260840
>healer identity during HW
>White mage gets regens and powerful burst healing and ogcds as well as powerful burst damage
>Scholars healing was mid and barrier based but gets lots of spammable ogcd heals and a fairy it can micromanage to heal a target of their choosing while they do something else, their damage is almost completely dot based and they even get utility like a 5% slow to make cooldown based attacks come slower, aoe esuna and a silence that come from one of their fairies, mdef mitigation, virus mitigation and eye for and eye mitigation
>astrologian had few healing ogcds and the ability to switch between barriers and regens gcds outside of combat (though it was mainly a regen healer), they weren’t as powerful as the specialists in each healing but they could extend effects in a myriad different ways, had 6 different unique buffs as well that could be enhanced, extended or expanded depending on card drawn and burned
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>>738261106
>But how does this affect you personally?

Because it is truth, why does the experience of a single player story affects you personally?

the fact that the phrase is often used as retarded takes does not mean that sometimes it makes sense
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>>738261218
>giving a story skip option
It exists.
You can buy it in the ffxiv store.
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>>738246768
You can't talk in a world where the slightest bullshit like
>hello sir
can catch you a 3day ban from mentally ill double niggers and their moderation team of californians who literally CANNOT do their job and issue cautions, warnings, or anything else in that mile long player behavior punishment text and skip straight to 3 days for everyone.
Anyways I'm getting bitter memories for my ShB relics and it fucking sucks.
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>>738260312

13 years a Roeg spit roast.
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>>738261218
It would result in me being surrounded by idiots. That does affect me. People unwilling or unable to read typically means they are:
>Ignorant
>Slow to learn
>Impatient
>Hyper focused on only one aspect of the game and will just leave once they realize there isn't enough of that
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>>738261047
I guess you're right. I just wanted them to do it right and flesh out different characters we might actually like.
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>>738261269
>Because it is truth
Hey, shit for brains. Ever think of video game culture? Ever think what it does to a game with a strong narrative that has been central to the game if you toss that under a rug and tell people they can just ignore 10+ years of story so they can bing bing wahoo in duh epik endgame killing the same 4 raid bosses? If you cater to that kind of mentality?
The breakfast question exists for lobotomites like you who can't think further than their own two feet.
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>>738261218
It's less chastising you for Dawntrail's existence and forcing you into it (what the fuck?) and more you being desperate to skip past Dawntrail because you fell for Twitter mongoloids hyping it up as the worst piece of gaming history ever devised, I think
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>>738260886

Elezen have forever been the actual coolest race in the game's legacy by far and nobody fucking plays them.
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>>738261138
Astro used to be very time magey
>celestial opposition: stun around caster, extends buff effects around caster
>time dilation: majorly extend buff effects of one target
>lightspeed: make every spell insta cast
>gravity
>buff that enhances gcd speed and another buff that lowers cooldowns of ogcds
But yeah its not a time mage anymore by any means after stormblood
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>>738261253
Am I misremembering, or did AST have the ability to extend 'all' buffs on a target and not just their own?
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>>738261218
>I want to skip the story
>Why?
>I don't like it, and I want to just do the pve content
Maybe the game isn't for you, Raid Monkey.
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I know nothing about Final Fantasy, is this game worth playing?
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>>738261356
Its like reading a lobotomite calling another lobotomite a lobotomite.
Just not sure which is mor
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>>738260506
My favorite part of the B team was how when I first started the game with my friend we too were playing a Roe and Elezen.
its a kino friend combo.
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>>738261318
Most people who play this game solely to raid are way better at this game than you ever will be
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>>738246768
I don't try to make friends in MMOs anymore. It's a phase I've gone through. Nowadays, I just engage in casual social interaction and that's it.
I've had plenty in Pilgrim's Traverse and even frontlines (though there you aren't really having much of a personal interaction and mostly just tossing remarks into the mix with other people). Dungeons, sometimes, as well. But they tend to be over too quickly to really get any deeper conversation going.
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>>738261409
This is why I am hoping they made those changes to open design space for Time Mage in the future. WoW has the bronze dragon class as a healer. It's possible.
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>>738261406
I do
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>>738261436
The Free Trial is massive
Decide for yourself
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>gymnastics
I don't like RTS games so I don't play them.
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>>738261178
>It isn't like you need the gear for anything.
Yeah but that's what I hate. I hate that nothing has lasting 'value' in the game.
I see people with Ultimate weapons and I don't even think anything other than "Heh, wasted your time on some shit that will be irrelevant in two patches"
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Will AST still have single target damage buff cards you think? What other utility could you give them that isnt just shield/movement speed?
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>>738253592
Game designs has been going back since HW even WoW midnight has classes more complex than whatever the fuck these changes are
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>>738261436
Yeah you don't need to know anything about FF to get into this one, it's heavily self-referential to the rest of the series (every single FF game is) but that mostly means you're going to get a distilled version of other games' events and characters with fresh eyes

The most obvious references are the Omegascape raid series that outright tells you it's all stuff from other worlds, and Gilgamesh, a fixture of the Hildibrand silly quest series and a returning character from FF5 whose gimmick is he's hopping between worlds and usually is the same guy from FF5 when he appears
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>>738261410
Yes celestial opposition was mainly used to extend buffed regen effects further on top of expanded card effects.
Time dilation was commonly used to extend enhanced or extended single target buff effects like a buffed balance but it also extended the regen on a target so you could combo it with say a single target ewer on yourself or another healer or a buffed bole effect on a tank alongside a buffed regen.
The extension on time dilation was like 15s too so it was really powerful
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>>738261406
I tried. Neck makes glam options feel restricted.
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>>738260939
You're never getting rid of the Scions after crying nonstop about Wuk Lamat.
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>>738261553
>I see people with Ultimate weapons and I don't even think anything other than "Heh, wasted your time on some shit that will be irrelevant in two patches"
NTA but that looks like a you problem to me.
And I don't even hate the Ultimate glowsticks. I think they're garish and overbearing, but people get them because they like showing them off.
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>>738261573
>even WoW midnight has classes more complex than whatever the fuck these changes are
Ehhh I wouldn't say so, Dragoon's Sinistral/Dextral positionals alone would make the average Midnight melee shit themselves in exertion
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I've never watched Evangelion. Trying to start but there's like a dozen separate anime all with the same name. Is there a correct order to watch? I assume the earliest first, but I heard that was remade DBZ Kai-style, along with a bunch of other iterations...
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>>738261409
>>738261495
I feel like all the changes to WHM over the years has also opened up Geomancer, since WHM doesn't do shit with rocks and water anymore.
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>>738261356
It's what happens when you have a story with the quality of dawntranny, tranny

you really think FFXIV has good story, narrative or dialogue? the only thing FF has is some really good hype moments that are super intensified by Soken musics. It's all setpieces. The plot development is terrible. The characters are cardboards with almost 0 development. The dialogue is often a redundant mess of shakesperean talk and Koji memes. I don't understand why skipping the story gives you a brain aneurism
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>>738261436
it does reference other FF games a lot, like the current expansion is a bunch of FF9 references
but it's still enjoyable when you don't know the references and get to point at the screen like Leo
like one of the last trials of this expansion was the boss in 9 and I didn't know who that was so I was surprised by it but I know some people were like "yeah of course lol"
worst case, some weird shit happens because lol that's how it was in another game and you just roll with it.
but once the next expansion comes out you're going to get to go up to the best written expansion for free so decide for yourself
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>>738261648
There is neon genesis evangelion, i forget its either 24 or 26 episodes long.
Then theres the movie the end of evangelion.
Then theres the 4 rebuild movies
Then theres whatever yoko taro thing is getting made.
Thats it, in that order.
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>>738261648
The original series is the best way.
The Rebuild movie series started out as a "remake" but quickly became a retelling/reboot that changes the story completely.
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>>738261424
>the game isn't for you because you don't like reading the 9000000 hours of inane dialogue and jrpg tropes

kek. Exactly, I want to play the game
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>>738261617
The explosive anger about the character is completely mystifying to me. I didn't think she was any more annoying than Hien, Aymeric or Lyse.
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>>738261617
GOOD! The Scions are my FF party so I'm glad I'm never getting rid of my FF party, ever.
Why in the fuck would I want that?
Oh for new characters to have? New characters like Wuk Lamat who ruined an entire expansion.
For new characters like Koana who didn't even acknowledge that my player character existed.
New characters like Bakool Ja Ja who were decent heels only to immediately do a turn abd became a complete pussy.
Yeah I'll stick with the Scions.
I don't mind the odd Ayermeric or Real Sphene tier character but NOT WUK LAMAT!
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>>738261648
Original TV series 1-24 and then End of Evangelion (which is the 'true' ep25/26 since they ran out of money during the TV run)
Then you can watch the Rebuild movies
DO NOT watch the shitty Netflix dub
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>>738261585
>>738261754
Will it spoil the other games?
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>>738261521

He looks like he defends Ishgard from the encroaching Dragon filth from Dravania and spends his evenings fucking nameless bar wenches at the Forgotten Knight.
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>>738261495
They won’t. Look at bard.

>>738261560
It will have 6% damage buff single target, shield, and regen. Same as they do now. Yoshida has made it clear during the bard keynote they don’t want to incorporate buffs or buff synergy so you can’t have things like using old ewer on a blm so they get more fire casts, using arrow on a monk so they go super fast and also expend tp twice as fast (not that the latter would matter now), powerful mitigation on a tank (like 20% dmg reduction), etc.
Thats why the only unique buff bard gets is a movement speed buff, which isnt that unique really scholar gets one too. The other two are just healing abilities.
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>>738261573
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>>738261825
No, it'll give you the absolute briefest overview but almost never plays out exactly the same way or ends even close to the same way
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>>738261406
It's a shame they move around like they have a dragon-shaped buttplug up their ass at all time.
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>>738261758
1.0 is what evangelion was
2.0 is what the fanbase wanted evangelion to be
3.0 is the result of evangelion existing in the anime landscape
4.0 is telling everybody to move on from evangelion and do literally anything else.
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>>738261553
At this point I just assume they paid for it by default. Or they likely cheated. There's no reason to give a shit about prestige in a game that so openly allows cheaters and boosting, without a lick of anti cheat.
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>>738261793
Maybe it's the fact that she has an insane amount of lines, that her "journey" as a character is the most insane, cliche thing ever, that she is a disgusting furry, and keeps stealing the spotlight from the MC

granted, she literally got killed off in one of the latest patches. You will never see her again (like Moenbryda)
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>>738261779
Yes, it isn't for you, don't know why you need to be bitter about a game that's not meant for you. I don't get angry at fifa being a thing.
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>anti-story fag turns out to be a shitposting retard at worst or a streamerbab zoomer at best
Feels good to always be vindicated.
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>>738261859
>scholar gets one too
We dunno if it will keep that or not
I think not, personally, they made a big hullabaloo about SMN keeping its res for Dawntrail, and the Haste for SCH was added because by their own admission they ran out of ideas for what to give it
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why didn't the collab feature the most iconic location from XI?
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>>738261843
As all true Elezen chads should be doing.
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>>738261648

The original show shits on the new movies due to pacing and a longer means of absorbing better direction and information.

The new movies the pussy director didn't even want to work on but his wife bullied him into it because they needed the money.
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>>738261757
>>738261821
>>738261758
thanks, where does the live-action movie fit into the watch order?
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>>738261779
Then buy a skip.
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>>738261908
I don't think any of that is worth the explosive anger surrounding the character. It's mostly the "stealing the spotlight from the MC," isn't it.
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>>738261793
There's plenty of reason to hate Wuk Lamat.
Like someone did the math, and how she has more lines of dialogue in her single expansion than most other characters by FAR, how the plot bends over backwards for her in every way, how nothing about her story makes sense, etc.
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>>738261863
Alright cheers
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>>738261679
>WHM doesn't do shit with rocks and water anymore
I'm actually really pissed about that, loved muh 2.0 fluid aura
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>>738261941
XIV players wouldn't survive the Dunes
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>>738261941
Am I the only one who thinks the Eureka-like content should've been the FFXI collab?
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>>738262025
Yeah I get all that. I am no less confused by somebody mathing out how much they hate the character than I am by their visceral, violent reaction to the character. The two go hand in hand for me, even. I don't get the hate-obsession and I don't think I will.
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>>738262002
'Damnatio memoriae' sounds about right for this. Live action anime adaptations are almost universally ASS.
Zero faith in the Gundam movie getting made as well.
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>>738262030
Fubuki is the only real vtuber player. The rest just get exposed as shills and secondaries.
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>>738262116
Same. I think she's unequivocally shit, but I don't think it warrants the extreme amounts of angst.
I will say I'm glad she (and her shitty EN VA) are gone, though.
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>>738262082
>Zone 1 - Sky
>Zone 2 - Promyvion
>Zone 3 - Sea
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>>738261932
Running speed is not haste anon. They ran out of ideas because they don’t want to create “imbalance”.
Astrologian back then had one dot and one gcd attack cast, MASSIVELY less dps than scholar and white mage.
To make up for that they got (and these are the base effects they could be enhanced, extended or aoed at the cost of less potency):
10% damage up (later buffed to 20% at base iirc)
10% attack speed up
10% damage mit
Lower the cooldown of any ogcd used during the buff duration by like 1.5 iirc (later changed to a 10% crit buff in SB)
Like 20% reduction of mp cost (used to be mp regen)
Like 20% reduction of tp cost
The latter can’t be used anymore but the rest can’t. They just wont because it will make ast into the preferred healer, even though scholar used to have 30% skill/spell speed buffs on selene back in arr no reason they can’t make them into a buff healer as well.
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>>738262136
>the Gundam movie getting made
...what?
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>>738262082
That would have been so much fucking better.
I want an entire expansion to be in an 11 themed shard but that's probably too much.
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>>738262313
There is in fact a live action Gundam movie being made.
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>>738262116
Seems to me like you are trying to fit a narrative of hate towards a certain type of people

The character is shit. Wuk lamat is shit.

And so is his voice actor

You are a fucking tranny
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>>738262116
For me personally its the whole "takes spotlight away from the MC" bit, as shallow as it is.
Like from the beginning xiv has never pretended YOU weren't the main character, the game sucks your dick the whole journey as the WoL.
So having this dumb cat replace you and reduce you to her cheerleader really was annoying, it just gave me WoW flashbacks to how you the player character don't matter at all and just support the NPCs who are the main characters.
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>>738262393
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>>738262046
Yeah, I hope we get Geomancer for a bunch of cool elemental stuff we don't have anymore.
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>>738262276
>Like 20% reduction of mp cost (used to be mp regen)
>Like 20% reduction of tp cost
You've got those backwards. They started as cost reduction and were changed to refresh.
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>>738262380
Honestly, I'd just like them to go through with finishing that XI remake once and for all instead of using XIV for memberberries
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>shadowbringers is going to f2p this year
wtf this is the best f2p mmo ever
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>Blue Heavens of Ishgard - HEAVENSWARD
>Jet-Black Villains - SHADOWBRINGERS
>Dawnmoon Finale - ENDWALKER
>Zodiark Destruction Battle - THE DARK INSIDE
>Nidhogg Dragon Conquest Battle - FINAL STEPS OF FAITH
damn, the english localization mogs the japanese titles
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>>738262082
The XI collab was weird as fuck
>Dawntrail is the Treasures of Aht Urghan of XIV
>Basis for the series is thw Walk of Echoes, which is from Wings of the Goddess
>Prishe is from Chains of Promathia but acts as the sidekick character
>First raid focuses on base game with a touch of Rise of Zilart (Divine Punishment)
>Second raid focuses on Rise of Zilart, eith a touch of Chains of Promathia (Ultima and Omega)
>Final raid starts with A Shantotto Ascension, kinda, then goes into Treasures of Aht Urghan but only does half of Ragnarok, then into Chains of Promathia but leaves Prishe out, then to Abyssea with the wrong Prishe but it all loops back to TOAU again with Gulool?
The entire thing was a fucking mess.
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>>738262463
You've been found, recoil back to your nest
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They should just implement a penalty for story skippers. Nothing large. Just like you can’t roll on loot at the end of a raid or something. They get to focus on their raid anutism and the actual players get to have more access to gear as they continue their journey through the game. Everyone wins
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>>738255389
If it’s crossbow (or dual wields) it would be a dream come true to me. Because I love Linkle. And Viper was Shez-like for me and I loved it.
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>>738262527
>this year
Since last Tuesday anon.
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YOSHI P YOU FUCKING PUSSY LET US HAVE NPC ROMANCE OPTIONS
IF A SHITHEAP LIKE TORTANIC CAN DO IT SO CAN YOU
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>>738262576
>force-MINE story skippers
>don't count as a chest penalty for Savage
>they can raid all they want, can't claim loot
That'd be great actually
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>>738262558
Yeah, the Japanese version just reads like a nearly literal description. Dry.
The only one that's better in JP is the Dead Ends.
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>>738262463
YWNBAW
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Are they implying Ishgard kino with the trailer being snow + WoL + blue Alphi + Stinny
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>>738262136
It’s going to be pacific rim tier toddler dogshit instead of a character driven melodrama space opera. Because no one in Hollywood is competent or talented or intelligent enough to adapt Tomino’s work
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>>738262618
Never ever.
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>>738262505
You are correct, i had it backwards.
The change happened shortly after ast’s release as well because base ast had weaker gcd healing potencies that they buffed to become on par with the other two though I would say it straight up powercrept scholars shields.
As someone who liked sch tho I don’t care that it did, astrologian was far too butchered after SB. It was the ideal buff class rep and they ruined it
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>>738262618
>pic
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>>738262649
I prefer the JP name for Endsinger. "The One who sings of the End". Sounds ominous as fuck.
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She did it!
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>>738262734
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>>738256890
I dont think xiv is cool enough to do this for a tank. Mace and shield it is.
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>>738262509
That remake was probably going to be AIDS since Nexon was involved, if I remember correctly. I'd be happy with a simple remaster/overhaul that makes it more accessible, better controls that actually make any fucking sense, and improve the client in so many ways.
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>>738262421
They also really sucked at trying to pretend you were mentoring Wuk.
In every way, Wuk was kind of a disaster of a character. EN only, she had that shitty VA, and then for every other version, she was way too prevalent with an absurd amount of voiced lines in a single expansion, was always the center of attention, and you were basically there to follow her story. Sphene (Endless) was according to Yoshi-P also juxtaposed to be Wuk's personal Emet-Selch, and I remember thinking that was a really tone deaf comment that illustrated the problem perfectly.
And I say this as someone who doesn't seething boiling raging hatred loathes Dawntrail. I don't live and breathe 24/7 Wuk Lamat hate, but even I think she was just a gigantic, colossal miss.
Didn't even get a cute tomboy catgirl out of it either. Had to turn to Yaana for that instead.
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>>738262558
Inherited from FF XI
Illusions of the Zilart - Rise of the Zilart
Bondage of Promathia - Chains of Promathia
Secrets of Aht Urhgan - Treasures of Aht Urhgan
Divine Troops of Altana - Wings of the Goddess
Demonic Realm of Adoulin - Seekers of Adoulin
Star Song of Vana'diel - Rhapsodies of Vanadiel
Forbidden Land Abyssea - A Crystaline Prophecy
A Shantotto Ascension: Vana'diel's Most Diabolical Plot - A Shantotto Ascension : The Legend Torn, Her Empire Born
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>>738262734
>not even 500k gil
damn she's broke
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>>738262734
Only 81 more to go.
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Y'know, I'm starting to hate Red Alphinaud
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>>738255349
>maplestory adds a pile-bunker duck and weave boxer to its jobs
>plays like fucking gunbreaker in 2D
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>>738262732
It makes it feel a lot more impersonal. I agree.
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>>738262734
Buki…
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>>738255516
>Mecha fan
Yet he didn't even give us a single actual mecha mount. Curious.
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>>738262858
AHHHHH SEX WITH PINKHROTH
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>>738262008
that complain always sounded super childish to me. The WoL is still front and center doing stuff, it's just mostly Wuk's story because it's her home and you're visiting.
I'm unfamiliar with them but isn't this sort of how the XI expansions go?
You get a new female character to follow around and it's mostly her story while you do some stuff? Iroha, Lilisette, whoever?
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This is a cat.
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>>738262858
She, like all other Scions, are flanderized in Dawntrail because they need to completely fawn over "Lamaty'i."
They'll get better the further we get from 7.0.
Krile was just as bad and I still enjoyed her by the time we got to 7.4.
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>>738262618
it is kinda weird that despite how "mature" the writing is they absolutely refuse to touch romance at all. I get not wanting the WoL or the main scions to have romances since thats a headache and shitstorm waiting to happen, but the fact there's literally zero romance or relationships despite it being such a core part of the human experience is weird. the only romance in the game is fourchenault/ameliance and mikoto crushing on cid.
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>>738262558

Has been said for years, XIV's English translation is likely the best Square-Enix has put out since Vagrant Story. And considering how Shakespearean VS was, that is pretty fantastic.
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>>738262926
Dawntrail goes a bit harder on it than XI and previous XIV expansions do but it still largely follows the same mold yeah
If anything I'm not liking how hard the game wanks the WoL after patch 7.1 even if I like the aura farming of getting blasted by the entire power grid
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>>738262876
We have the Cosmic Exploration one now.
But I really want a G-Warrior mount.
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Is there going to be dance partner stance dancing now with unaligned bursts? Just rotate it on a loop between like 4 bursty dps who intentionally stagger. Having only single-target damage buffs is pretty interesting design, actually.
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>>738262962
I'd like to believe that they don't want to deal with the inevitable headache that is the western part of the fandom.
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>>738262558
I think Koji Fox is good at his job. Maybe a little cringe sometimes but he's overall good.
Leagues better than K*te.
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>>738262962
>it is kinda weird that despite how "mature" the writing is
could've fooled me
Dawntrail is written like a bad children's book
up to the power of friendship solving everything
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>>738262962

It isn't like the WoL doesn't have obsessive fan girls always fawning over him/her.
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>>738263013
If they wanted to make kino they'd make DNC have to learn every other job's burst times so they can synchronize with their chosen partner.
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>>738263093
Dawntrail is a direct response to the WoWshit invasion and the writing style was already getting noticeably simpler and more repetitious in Endwalker
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>>738263013
They're gonna remove Dance Partner because it creates too much "friction" since the DNC cannot know ahead of time which DPS is gonna do the most damage. Also can't have teamwide damage buffs anymore so their Technical Finish will just put a shield on everyone.
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>>738262576
Dunce hat that cannot be removed via glam. Everyone else sees it. Attempts to remove it via mods triggers the only anticheat ever implemented to the client.
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>>738259341
They bitch the same about Dark Souls too. Like they expect devs making a franchise to start everything over from scratch every time? Development times are long enough already.
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>>738262962
on the plus side YoshiP said if you headcanon your WoL in a relationship with someone that's perfectly fine, and even called Alisaie a waifu.
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>>738263181
We're talking about evolved jobs, not reborntroon jobs.
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>>738263109
Unironically if Zenos had been a female character I would have been rocking his fucking world every single day instead of killing him.
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>>738262603
Linkle!
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>>738263235
Well yeah, Evolve is all about giving up on those pesky partywide damage buffs so bye bye Technical Finish
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>>738263241
Fem Zenos would have been the undisputed #1 waifu. No one else would have ever come close.
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>>738262690
Never ever ever.
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>>738262926
>Base Game/TROZ
You get Lion and Zeid
>CoP
You get Prishe, Ulmia, and Tenzen among others
>TOAU
You get Nashmeira/Aphmau, her puppets, and Luzaf
>WotG
Lilisette, Cait Sith, and some side characters from around the big War
>SoA
Arciela and her shrubbery
>RoV
Iroha and all of the above
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>>738263071
The JP fanbase would immediately turn into screeching Korean incels and start drawing nigger NTR of their favorite girl so others wouldn't romance them if romance was added to the game. The western fanbase would just have trannies complain Alisaie is underage or whatever
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>>738263339
Dance Partner is single target.
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>>738262690
based Estinien, even in these type of videos he's a bro
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>>738263241
I know garleans love their mech powered battlesuits. But was it really necessary to put such a caboose on his?
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>>738263339
they said the 2 minute buff meta is being removed from reborn as well, you know
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>>738263013
They haven’t had any actual buff design since SB. What makes you think they will start now?
Did you even see the bard keynote? Thats their idea of buff support, being literally just a weak healer and completely passive support rather than controlled. Look at smn, they can’t even control when their regen/heal comes out because if you could select between phoenix and bahamut “you’d never use phoenix”
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>>738263307
a linkle fan. whatcha think of this outfit? truly asking
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>>738263347
what about fem Emet Selch?
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>>738263371
Based the primary/core audience had a right to protect what’s theirs. The ancillary western one just has to be put in its place
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>>738263452
me rapey
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>>738263109
except most of those fangirls are men
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>>738263348
Never never ever ever forever never.
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>>738262926
>I'm unfamiliar with them but isn't this sort of how the XI expansions go?
Not quite. Like Prishe is the main character of CoP, but she isn't even present for half the story. Aphmau is the main girl of WotG, but she hardly spends any time around you and spends most of it off somewhere else with Luzaf. Lilisette and Arciela have the most screentime in their expansions, but in WotG half the main story are city storylines (you can choose to do just one or all three of them, but you have to do at least one) in which Lilisette isn't present at all plus she disappears for a good chunk of the story near the end. Iroha shows up fairly often in RoV but mostly to point you toward the next objective before she gets blipped out of spacetime again and the story focuses on all the returning old characters.
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>>738263432
Very possible, but one option is to prevent switching dance partner during combat. But if they really want to avoid both synchronization and anti-synchronization on bursts they'd have to drop AST cards as precision-deployed damage buffs too, which would go against the job identity pretty hard.
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>>738262116
>Be forced to spend every waking moment with a character except for a 2 hour segment during a 60 hour storyline
>"Heh, obsessed"
????????
Like bitch nigga I ain't the one who literally devoted 95% of the msq to this furry I'm just the one who had to play through it
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>>738262962
Love that cute dork.
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>>738263371
>The western fanbase would just have trannies complain Alisaie is underage or whatever
That already happened when Yoshi called her a waifu in one of the liveletters.
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>>738263569
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>>738263624
Watch it, you're gonna make him drop his confused fencesitting everyman persona.
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>>738263576
:(
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>>738263392
Zenos has that big dumpy on his armor because he's supposed to look like an inverted Warrior of Light
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>>738263576
>Love Lyse
>Hate Ala Mhigo
Life is tough.
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>>738263650
NOOO THINK OF THE HECKIN PIXELS! AND FICTIONAL FANTASY CHARACTER!
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>>738262618
I want Lyna and I want Sphene, now.
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>>738262962
Remember that time when a group of young and foolish adventurers got in over their heads and the healer lost her lover tank because of her inability to keep him alive and then fall into a spiral of despair that led to her resurrecting his decapitated head into an undead monster?
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>>738262962
>heterosexual only
>you only get to choose once per account
>final destination
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>>738263624
Excuse me sir, but you seem to be confused. When I push things I want to see in the story, you have to accept that because it's normal for me to push garbage into your face. When you recoil and articulate why my garbage is terrible, that makes you the weird one.

I don't make the rules, that's just how it works, so quit resisting and don't talk unless it's to praise my garbage, okay sweaty?
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>>738263653
>literally one of the ugliest npcs theyve ever made
I rest my case
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>>738263807
They treated her so bad...
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>>738263807
of course

we even got a 10/10 song from it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHCvJM9do78

shame we don't get kino like this
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>>738263347
>>738263452
Continuing the Garlean royal line (rough impregnating sex with fem-Zenos and Femet Selch)
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>>738262962
Gonna take Nashu out on a nice date (Hildibrand will inevitably appear and hijinx will ensue, leading to a confrontation with Gilgamesh in one of his many costumes)
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>>738260126
Who finds unrepentant whoredom like this attractive?
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>>738262558
>Jet-Black Villains
Garbage
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>>738262962
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>>738263941
My WoL plapped that
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>>738263602
I don’t think a 6% damage buff is “job identity” anon.
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>>738256893
Except that there is no early content where you have clemency available. You could only use that as a legit strat in HW content, but the only dungeons where you can die to bad healers are the ARR early ones.
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>>738263807
hiroi wrote that
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>>738246768
I've got a FC that I've been a part of since the tail end of ARR. We originally split off of another FC once we realized that the dozen or so of us were the only ones who actually wanted to do shit in-game. Since then, it's grown a bit over the years, with us picking up new people here and there, usually whenever we'd be running things and were short a member or two.

Maybe try cracking the ice yourself the next time you're in a dungeon or raiding?
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>>738263807
UGGGHHHH more GoT slop, when will you understand this is NOT what the game is about and it doesn't belong here?!
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>>738263807
Bros how do I get a gf like this
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>>738263807
>Entier party blames a novice 16 year old for the death of her boyfriend
>None of them help her in anyway and just abandon her
I felt no sympathy for any of them, wish you could have left them for dead in that dungeon.
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>>738262962
I think it's more of a convergence of
>too much work (having to keep updating it, having to have it affect MSQ)
>too much drama ("this is not how *I* envisioned a romance with this character! My fantasy is ruined!" "the character I want to romance isn't an option...", etc.)
So why even bother if it's a lot of work that could only really lead to a bunch of complaining? People can make their own romances as is.
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>>738256648
Flavor text skill, like cover nowadays.
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>>738264001
To be fair, their identity before XIV was "That one guy from Tactics who used Celestial Stasis once"
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>>738262690
interracial like that is frowned upon in their world.
actually why did they even stick to this racism bullshit in the original ARR when inter race conflicts are a never ever in FFXIV? Plus all the races are everywhere so this sort of racism should never stick in the first place? the fact that the wol seems to be a mongol chink and g'raha is a turkroach is much more important to the setting than the fact that he's a cat and she's a lizard and there's no racism towards nationality.
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>>738262527
You mean a good f2p visual novel. You can't make parties so people aren't going to do stuff with their friends unless one of them pays or they're okay with begging randos.
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>>738263624
>"Heh, obsessed"
Yeah if somebody's mathing out their hatred of a character, they are obsessed. I don't know why you're identifying with an unnamed autist who did the mathing out, or acting like I was pointing at you specifically.
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>>738264005
Do you SERIOUSLY think any of these fanatical hypocritical lunatics will care? Lol lmao
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>>738264104
racism was important in heavensward and ARR, but then later they forgot about it
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>>738262962
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3bo-Llg2xU
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>>738263229
true
https://files.catbox.moe/2sevou.mp4
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>>738264167
Not really important to the plots of later expacs
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>>738264005
He also wrote the "Let's forgive the Ala Mhigans for their war crimes" questline.
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>>738264104
Race and language boundaries were a huge focus in 1.0, and the reason WoL has a translator Echo is because they were supposed to bridge those gaps. The ARR writers just dropped that focus. The setting we have now is very, very different from what was originally intended.
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>>738262962
I'm sure I missed some, but I'm done proving you wrong.
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>>738264073
No it was not. I’d appreciate if you stopped pretending it wasn’t its own original thing that they came up with in HW using that as inspiration. They had an identity in HW-SB. They lost it in SHB like every other healer.
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>>738264143
they do care. which is why it bothers them so much. lol
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>>738246613
Still not playing Tranny Fantasy THE mmo.
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>>738264260
interesting that you interpreted the bard quest like that. i got 'peace requires people put their emotions away'
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>>738264043
Sounds like what a group of dumb teenagers would do if they fucked up that badly.
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>>738264292
But enough about wow.
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>>738264273
Orran's job is literally Astrologer, anon.
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>>738262962
well the game is focused on solving crisis way above the paygrade of kissing couples. romance usually takes a second place whenever the world is at stakes. sex as well, so it's understandable that the wol has turned into a war golem.
But whenever you aren't saving the world you're bringing happiness to others around you so it does make sense for the wol to play cupid sometimes, but this is very rare.
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>>738264260
No he wrote the "it'd be really really stupid and fuck the expedition over if we let this info slip right now" questline
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>>738264341
pretty sure they were awful from the beginning, making Edda pay for their shit. And I think the BF was cheating on her with the other chick
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>>738263650
the westerner cognitive dissonance is something that has to be studied
ignore for the moment the fact that these troons constantly masturbate to the idea of ryne eating gaia's muff
alisaie has been on the frontlines of a war, at the negotiation table surrounded by world leaders and the edge of the fucking universe and has helped to stop the apocalypse several times. she has witnessed a friend of hers morph into a mindless, malformed monster
this is all fine for a girl who is 17 years old 364 days, 23 hours and 59 seconds to do
but romance? sex? she's not ready. her mind isn't developed enough for that. you're doing a heckin rape
make it make sense
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>>738264340
Your fault is believing the Ala Mhigans deserve peace. Gaius was better than they deserved, and Zenos wasn't hard enough on them.
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>>738264261
Ehhhhh if there was a clear intention at the time I think Banri Oda would have stuck to it
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>>738264001
In terms of job fantasy, I agree, but it seems to me (mostly based on dragoon jump desu, though I'd include bard movement options and cover not being deleted) that evolved mode is biased towards allowing different jobs to provide different things to the party, and that the "job identity" tagline has something to do with that. What does it mean to the party to have an AST instead of a WHM? If not damage buffs then I'd hope it's something else.
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>>738264417
Ala Mhigan greed spilled Gridanian blood. When Gridania proved that the "might" of Ala Mhigo was a facade, the cowards turned to underhanded tricks. The Alliance giving them a thrashing didn't go far enough.
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>>738264479
He clearly didn't because in 1.0 all the beastmen speak their own languages and WoL is needed to translate anything and everything they say. And then in ARR everyone can talk to every beastman because they all decided to learn Common in the 5 year gap.
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>>738264027
Fuck off schizo
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>>738264591
Sounds like they were committing to not being XI-2
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>>738264613
Beastmen speak the common language in XI, so no.
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>>738264270
yea I actually dont know what OP meant by that. You see characters in love and have crushes all the time. Just recently we have Julius and Zero. He wants that voidcent pun.
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>>738264460
ah, another retard who thinks opinions can change what was written. doesn't matter what you think about it, what happened happened
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>>738264140
Is this the part where you just pretend nobody should be able to articulate why they don't like something, lest they fall into the trap of caring about a thing too much, and therefore be ick or something? I absolutely respect people who make a claim ("this troon is the writer's pet") and then come with receipts. I don't respect bitch niggers like you who try to run cover for garbage writing literally using "bro ur weird" as an argument.

Since it doesn't matter and you would have to be weird for caring about the whole situation, feel free to shut the fuck up any time, nigger.
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>>738264342
You aren't going to guess what symbol did they use for children's week.
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>>738264341
>teenagers
Edda was the only teenager, the rest were in their early 20's. Even before he died all of them, even her fiance, treated her like trash.
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Now fellas I'm just your average hard working, fag dragging, rootin tootin, boon cracking, christcuck anti-woke conservatard but I gotta say that Final Fantasy XIV - Dawntrail directed by Naoki Yoshida and localized by Kathryn Cwynar was a real breath of fresh air. Nah, there ain't a lick of the woke agenda in it and no preachy politics neither! And you know... Wuk Lamat's voice kinda grew on me. Out here in Texas we call her Oil Drillin' Wuk.
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>>738262962
WAIT, I'M NOT DONE PROVING YOU WRONG, YOU QUEST DODGING, CUTSCENE SKIPPING FAGGOT
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>>738264457
Yeah I'm pretty sure her and Alphinaud aren't even considered kids in their own homeland, they graduated from that college and everything are are essentially legal adults.
but because the western fans have been brainwashed by american media that anything under 18 or 21 is a heckin' poor kiddo you have these wackjobs flipping out over age.
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>>738264652
>commit way less to beastmen being beastniggers by divine order
No it does in fact sound like they were committing to not being XI-2
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>>738263440
Not a fan of cape.
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>>738264867
yeah, maybe i'll be able to remove it with the new glamour stuff
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>>738264713
Every day on 4chan I meet somebody whose entire identity is a bad argument and he'll throw himself into a Viet Cong spike trap because it's an actual matter of pride for him. But he also can't handle being called weird, even indirectly or not specifically at himself.
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>>738264856
What are you even trying to say man? In FFXI beastmen were metaphysically different from the five playable races, which is where the conflict emerges from. In 1.0 they simply spoke other languages and WoL was there to bridge the gap with the Echo. In what way does removing the language barrier which was so central to the story that WoL's special power revolves around it make it any more or less FFXI? You're just babbling nonsense at this point trying to sound informed.
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>>738262962
YOU DUMB MOTHER FUCKERRRRRRR
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Blitzball waiting room
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>>738262962
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>>738264962
>What are you even trying to say man? In FFXI beastmen were metaphysically
All of a sudden I don't know what a retread is and I'm now fully committed to arguing the finer points

I am an autistic event horizon from which no direct comparison can escape, time slows when you are within my field of travel
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>>738264513
If it had more than just one buff I’d agree
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>>738265040
We've moved from
>NO BURITSBARU
When someone shouted it
to
>maybe
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>>738265072
>All of a sudden I don't know what a retread is and I'm now fully committed to arguing the finer points
There's no fucking commonality between metaphysical differences of the soul and a simple language barrier. The only similarity between the two stories is that there's conflict between city-states and beastmen, which is something maintained in ARR. Again, you are just babbling nonsense to try and sound informed. There's no chain of logic between anything you're saying. And let's not forget that this whole reply chain is about you denying that if there was some kind of clear intention in the lore then Oda would have kept it, which clearly is not the case.
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>>738265101
you could copy&paste the entirety of blitzball from FFX and it would fit like a glove. Much better than chocobo racing for example
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>>738262962
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This last 3 hours have been absolute Cinema
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>>738265227
Absolutely visceral cabin-shaking sex with femroes
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>>738265248
Appropriate image, actually.
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>>738263807
>also she develops a psychotic obsession towards you because you're fucking invincible

WoL is surrounded by bad end rape scenarios from beginning to end and somehow pulls through holy shit
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>>738265273
I am not a woman and I am not wearing a hat, you are looking too hard into a picture
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>>738264513
I don’t think they are removing scholars movement speed buff.
Bards “regen” and “barrier” are exactly the same buffs current ast gets damage buff aside.
I wouldn’t be surprised if AST and SCHs “evolved” mode “identity” is that when they heal with a gcd they get a free ogcd attack, like maybe sch gets an aetherflow stack and ast gets a crown card
The current evolved mode changes we’ve seen aren’t groundbreaking or super different to what we currently have, mostly just consolidating buttons and removing things like dots on whm
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>>738265227
For me its the guy who warns you not to sleep with the 2 whores because they gave him the crotch rot
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>>738265315
You're gonna get mad about the picture you posted now because you accidentally admitted you're a faggot?
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>>738265230
Fuck these fake ass fucks.
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>>738265332
>the sleeping (male) lala in the thanalan shanty shack who's dreaming about raubahn claiming his ass
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>>738265230
how was ultima weapon
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>>738262962
Hungbert Longhaft
HUNGBERT LONGHAFT
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>>738265364
I didn't know they had internet access in padded cells
>>738265446
>Stroking the Haft
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>>738265429
Kino beyond measure, but i have more problem with the fight after that, i have to reset 2 times
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>>738262962
Remember Thancred's playboy days? I DON'T. I DON'T READ NPC TEXT BUBBLES. I JUST MOVE FROM ONE QUEST MARKER TO ANOTHER LIKE A GODDAMN MOUSE TRAPPED IN A MAZE
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>>738265227
Lucky bastard
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>>738265486
I’m honestly surprise that the people that created this could have made ff16, what the fuck were they doing with ff16
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>>738262962
Okay, now I'm done.
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>>738265541
what do you mean? FF16 boss fights and music is literally the only thing the game has worth playing for
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>>738265528
motorboating this roe
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>>738265527
Thancred had a piece in the Crystarium too
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>>738265541
FF16 is a distillation of not only AAA development trends but also everything shitty with FFXIV at the time and 16's reception is quite probably why the game has a wakeup call and is trying to reinvent itself

Loads of shit clicks into place when you realize FF16 itself HAS A TWO MINUTE META
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>>738262962
Hildi elezen and the necromancer
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>>738265528
>no eight foot tall brick shithouse wife that's gentle as a lamb and physically affectionate
gonna kill myself
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>>738265527
surprising how raising ryne turned his dick of-
>>738265635
nevermind
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>>738265647
I honestly forgot about scholasticate, mostly because I was seething that the cute femezen loved the dumb nerd and not me, the chad of light.
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>>738256790
>>738256553
https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/737663404/#737664053
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>>738265587
I was referring to the story, while very basic I personally feel very accomplish with it, it holds great as a standalone story with having to maybe change 2 or 3 things, while on ff16 I didn’t care much about the story after a while.
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>>738265745
I am having the biggest laugh of my life at the thought of a WoL that cruises high-schools for chicks
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>>738265696
And don't forget the manly fart stink!!!!
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>>738265745
anon you already have your fangirls, stop being greedy
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>>738264949
>Since it doesn't matter and you would have to be weird for caring about the whole situation, feel free to shut the fuck up any time, nigger.
Your disingenuous fence sitting persona fools nobody. Fuck off.
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>>738265775
anon that's a screencap and archive link for a post about kate. this doesn't have anything to do with the VA company
>>738265820
>>738265836
get off your phone, i can smell your unwiped ass no matter when or where you post
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>>738265820
>manly fart
why are virgin incels like this
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>enjoying the main quest
>end up in Limsa
>literally dont understand what anyone is saying
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>>738265812
>Alisaie
>Ryne and Gaia
WoL has a type.
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>>738265860
>replies to two completely different reply chains in one go, revealing that he is actually not a confused everyman fencesitter but the retard who pathologically defends wuk because he has a fetish for hairy man-shaped freaks with male voices
You love to see it
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>>738265887
It is the fate of the virgin incel to have a total unabashed melty when they see a female roe. I don't know why it is but /vg/ has a couple dedicated people that also freak out when they see big shoulders and square noses. Like, will drop everything to have a melty. It's really funny.
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>>738265960
>get one reply back to a samefag accusation
WE ARE MANY
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>>738265897
bro, do NOT do the rog/nin questline
>tfw I unironically understood everything jacke was saying by the end
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>>738265860
>gets instantly tagged as a certain habitual poster
>nobody buys it
>rages and has to pretend he was actually the one who picked out his thread enemy all along
See you next thread, dipshit.
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>>738265812
>>738265923
imagine



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