Chapter 5 is almost around the corner! What are some of your hopes, dreams, fears, predictions for it?
>>738249415>Chapter 5 is almost around the corner!I mean, depends on what you mean by almost and "around the corner", we're still like +3 months away in my opinion.
>oh my full name? It's Mary Susie
>>738249590That's pretty fast for Toby, maybe he should slow it down so he doesn't exert himself too much
I have the feeling this chapter will be the end of deltarune since it will have some kind of controversy and the long gap with the next chapter that will all the hype.
>>738249415Lots of cute Toriel stuff
Will HE show up at the end of Chapter 5?
I hope for the worst possible outcome for all shippers and theoryfags for ruining threads about this game
>>738250796Yes
>>738250905Understood, Suselle will be confirmed and all the mystery boxes will remain unopened, in fact, a few more will be introduced too.
>>738249415>hopesa bunch of boss battles>dreamsgoing back to the 1+2 formula one last time >fearsAsgore humiliation ritual >predictionsall non-suselle ships will get mike'd
>>738250796he'll appear at the end of chapter 5 or during the shadow crystal boss fight to give us a little motivation. end of chapter 5 appearance will probably be "the time draws near. my Deltarune. i eagerly await the future you will make. deltarune the final chapters coming in (the year of our Lord)
>>738249415>almost around the cornerThere's 3 to 5 months left lmao. You need to learn to WAIT
>>738250729I doubt that will happen after the ending of 4, dude.
>>738251963I doubt your doubt.
>>738252064Based and determinationpilled
Hey guys, gals and non binary pals.How old is Kris? I'd like to know before shipping them with anyone...
>>738252082
There are only three chapters left. Make predictions for status quo changes by the end of ch5.I'll take the easy mode.>Rudy dies
>>738252098Kris is16male5 foot 5about 4 inchesnorwood 3 and receding
>>738249415someone remind what looking through the shard does again
>>738252273>5 foot 5Me too...but I'm in my late 30's
>>738252291
>>738250796Best you are getting is another text monologue at the end of chapter 7/0>Thank you so much for to playing my deltarune -G
>>738252506ohso it shows the future
>>738252291We don't know, we see different stuff. >In a dark world, you see the light world roomIn the light world>Using it in chapter one, Kris looks at their hand but their hand isn't their>In chapter 2, looking through it, Susie is glaring at Kris coldly. Actually she was smiling and making a rude gesture>In chapter 4, "you thought you saw Noelle whispering in your ear". Kris puts their ear up to the shard but hears nothing>At the final prophecy, Kris looks through the shard, but no matter what, the prophecy does not distort through the glass, it remains unchanged Game code suggests giving them all to Sean lets him construct something called the pure crystal. There is a crafting recipe to combine the Pure Crystal with the ThornRing to create a weapon called the Twisted Sword. Unlike the ring which increases "trance" the sword lowers "trance".Chapter 3 has unused shadow crystal dialogue in the code that seems unlikely to be canon. >For some strange reason, for just a brief moment, You thought you saw Undyne frozen in Ice.Because of this and the older sneaking theme that Toby once posted, one might speculate that Noelle was originally going to be playable in chapter 3. We know chapter 3 had a difficult dev process because it was deciding how the rest of the middle of the game played out.
>>738249415>Hopes:>Excluding Asgore who's pretty much a given, we get more descriptions/background information on several characters (Dess, Carol, ERAM, Friend, Kris, Gaster, etc.).>The last Shadow Crystal boss goes back to formula of being a total schizo like Jevil and Spamton, doesn't hold any punches, and blasts the Freedom motif like the world depends on it.>Chapter 5 sneaks in a slight nod to Undertale Yellow through the Yellow Flower's darkner, or is at least structured in a way that doesn't make the fangame feel dated.>Dreams:>The Knight's identity is revealed, and it's Dess.>Suselle is not confirmed, but neither is Kriselle, Krusie, or even Krusielle; relationship statuses between all three lightner party members are left in the open so the fandom (and these threads) don't get swallowed by one ship becoming canon.>The chapter releases in late July or early August.>Chapter 5 goes full-send on the Yellow Flower darkner and officially acknowledges Undertale Yellow, essentially retconning the fangame into UT/DR extended canon.>Fears:>The chapter is underwhelming and ends on a dull note that doesn't seed any hype for Chapters 6+.>Various story beats are saved for Chapter 6, with several instances of characters telling you to essentially "come back tomorrow" (another 2-3 years) just to answer questions we've probably had since 2021.>The chapter releases in the fourth quarter.>The chapter's Weird Route is minimal on content (themes, battles, etc.).>Chapter 5 somehow handles the Yellow Flower in such a way that it UTY look like an alternate universe rather than a fan-prequel.>Predictions:>Noelle becomes a party member again.>Flowey returns from Undertale, but as a separate character from Asriel as a darkner.>The other six flowers also become darkners, and provide windows into official characterizations of Undertale's six fallen humans, which future UT fangames about the fallen humans will reference and take notes from.
>>738252223Roaring happens.
>>738252223>Kris abandons us.>For the rest of the game, we play as our vessel.
>>738252869>>Chapter 5 goes full-send on the Yellow Flower darkner and officially acknowledges Undertale Yellow, essentially retconning the fangame into UT/DR extended canon.This would be terrible and be a middle finger to Toby's imagination philosophy by making it that only one fangame would be canon. Toby wants everyone's interpretation to be canon, not just Undertale Yellow. Plus to not mention the disastrous consequences of having Yellow canon due to how much it breaks Undertale (something the devs realize)
Imagine wanting UTY to be canon after that ending lmao
>>738249415>Hopes: Difficulty. My only major gripe with Chapter 4 other than main route Suselle faggotry was the fact that the bosses weren't all that tough, especially on repeat playthroughs. It doesn't have to be as hard as pre-patch Knight but I want to be seriously pushed. I also want to avoid even looking at the trailer/pre-release screenshots other than the release date until it drops.>Dreams: Shipping shit, especially Suselle, is killed or pushed to the side and never touched upon again. Asgore/Dreemurr family KINO where everyone is given the complexity they deserve. >Fears: Suselle being in the forefront of the story; too much levity given to important moments or story beats, being unable to go to Castle Town properly after sealing the ch5 dark world. My biggest fear of all is that Toby can't stick the landing and does something fucking retarded in an attempt to appeal to faggots/theorizers.My release date prediction is that we're getting the announcement within 60 days and the game within a week after that.
>>738249415>hopesNone for chapter 5.>dreamsNone.>FearsAsgore being made into a clown once more.>PredictionsNone.
>HopesIt's good>DreamsDeltateen orgy>FearsAsriel is fat and/or Dess is human
>>738249415I mean we already know how the entire chapter will play out>Wake up, go to the Festival with Susie+Noelle [normal] or just Noelle [Weird]>Fuck with Noelle figuratively and literally on the Ferris Wheel if on Weird, maybe she has a soul inside of her now>Spend some time with the Mikes, fight some dojo fights, talk to Seam for a bit, bring Jackenstein in, and put some stuff in Ralsei's room>Asgore sees Sans and Toriel gets ANGRY>Go into Asgore Dark World>Meet Flower kids, they probably kidnapped Asgore>Walk through the Field of Pink and Gold while colab song with ZUN plays>If on weird route freeze get some snowgrave kills before she leaves again>Go through wheat field, meet Top Chef TWO>Meet Egg Gaster again>Get to Flower Palace, fight flower children>At somepoint Ralsei learns fire magic so maybe burn Flower Children>Random diversion to fight a cute Touhou GIrl who obviously has determination or something, get shadow crystal and cute hat>Go to Asgore's basement and find out what happened with Dess>Maybe have a chase with the Knight>Fight Asgore, get code>Go to bunker>At somepoint during this the characters do a little spin and Ralsei says "Okay" and starwalker does a funnyThere, I literally leaked the entire chapter for you guys
>>738255863>Random diversion to fight a cute Touhou GIrl who obviously has determination or something, get shadow crystal and cute hatI think the schizo will be FRIEND or someone important. Even though I like the idea of a cute touhou girl since this is the last schizo it has to be someone more important than Gerson. Also we're getting a new scarf for Ralsei, not a hat.
>>738256372I'd agree if it weren't for the whole guest bullet designer tease, I think FRIEND is chapter 6. You are probably right about the scarf. Oh yeah I forgot a few things that will obviously happen>Learn about FRIEND/Mike in the Field of Pink and Gold>Have a dumb minigame with Queen>See the floor become even more checkerboardy in that one room>See Lancer's room expand further>Eat some moss>Read a new library book>See Jockington become more schizophrenic>See the bird dude become more schizophrenic>Talk with Onionsan, find out where he went for a bit>See stuff with Burgerpants and the blue rabbit guy>See Egg Gaster in real world through dialogue box>Buy stuff at new shop with flower kid probably
>>738249415Two dark worlds.
>>738256636The guest design bullet could be anything and this is the chapter with the field of PINK and GOLD. He will be important.
>>738255863>>738256636This all feels like chapter 2 WAIT era speculation for chapter 3. Beware of what you believe is a "given" for future chapters.
>>738249415I hope we finally get to make the Twisted Sword now that I have an aborted Weird Route save file prepared specifically for it.
>>738249415I hope we get a loli Noelle cameo.
>>738259057>subtle glow on nose in 2nd frameThat's such a good detail.
>>738258681I'm only going off things directly teased aside from the touhou girl which I admit is a stretch guess.
>>738258740there will be a rose darkner in 5 that gives you another thorn ringmy dad works at tobysoft
>>738259274Stuff like "reading another library book" is like expecting to talk to onionsan again.Not unreasonable, but might not happen or even happen but be very underwhelming.
I think it's going to be an overall positive chapter, serve to give back the characters some hope, weird route notwithstanding. 5 is the last one where you can squeeze in some last bit of fun before it all goes to hell.
>>738259057Based and same
>>738259387It's very likely to happen, and onionsan is probable since last chapter was skipped. I'm not trying to guess exciting things or be 100% right on every small detail, just stuff that will probably happen based on what's been teased.
>>738259287Nice, I get to make two. And even if I can't, the aborted Weird Route file basically doubles as my violence-only file anyways.
>>738259590Dude, I just can't fucking see how 5 will be fun by this point in the story. It's likely just going to be a retread of 4 with minimal darkner focus and more time on lightner lore and drama.
>>738259825For one, we know there will be a decent amount of Castle Town contentFor two, Flower Darkners and obviously there will be more then just them
nerf the knight
>>738259590I believe this just because it's a Snowdin parallel chapter and that area is very light hearted
>>738259982Absolutely notBuff the knighthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MTQFC9Hxx8
>>738259919>decent amount of Castle Town contentMaybe won't be a 5 thing, but for a long time I've been anticipating the gut punch of seeing everyone in castle town be turned to stone, all your effort and choices gone.>Flower DarknersDon't make me say the forbidden name.
>>738260173>the forbidden nameQRD?
>>738249415Don’t we already have a deltathread?
>>738260248..........M(I scream in agony as each bone in my body gets crushed)
>>738259825Ch4 ended on a pretty hopeless note, morale is at an all time low. Ch6 and 7 are for sure going to be a clusterfuck so dragging out doom and gloom for four chapters straight would start to lose meaning.
>>738260469Bro you can't stop there I need to know the lore
>>738260512Yeah, but letting everyone have flowery fun time like it's chapter 2 again doesn't make sense with how broken everyone is.Deltarune has had terrible pacing in terms of story beats since ch 2, but we already discussed this too many times.
>>738260590Be happy you're not a hopeless deltarune thread autistic schizo like Me
>>738260248Mikefags are mindbroken and think you can't expect and predict things that have been clearly set up because they jumped the gun with Mike, even though they ended up getting way more payoff than they ever deserved
File 1>purely pacifist wherever possible>talk to and check everything>mantleless>completionist autism asides from sword route>all soul-selected options are kris-alignedFile 2>aborted weird route, didn't even equip the freeze ring nor thorn ring>violence wherever possible>sword route completed and mantle obtained>all soul-selected options are anti-kris-aligned a.k.a. options that would piss him off the most that isn't the weird route, avoids duplicate selected options from other files>generally avoid noelle in general after ditching her for the ringsFile 3>weird route>pacifist wherever possible for all things that can't be frozen>but said pacifist methods all involve violently beating up enemies until they beg to be pacified>sword route completed and mantle obtained, repeatedly stab the noelle sprite in sword route for no reason>all soul-selected options are noelle-aligned a.k.a. options that show an obsession with noelle or "cold" things, avoids duplicate selected options from other filesY/N /v/?
>>738260895Not doing the sword route is dumb regardless of whatever else you're doing.
>>738260895one all recruits plus eggs save , one weird save, both with all crystals and the best items I bothered to go after, I choose whatever I feel like from most options
>>738249590You just need to wait
>>738260895>aborted weird routeYou can roleplay however you want but don't be disappointed when most of this shit doesn't matter
>>738260728It wouldn't be all sunshine and rainbows. There would be serious moments but the plot wouldn't beat down the characters to no end. There would be some sign of hope so the characters could catch their breath and actually have fun at the festival.Think back on UT, you had happy time in snowdin. Then waterfall pulled it down to a more somber tone, climaxing with a fight for your life. Hotland, back to being lighthearted with a slow build up to Asgore, Flowey, the secret lab, Asriel.
>>738261023Sword Route is already done on the files where violence is more callous. Kris seems to hate killing virtual representation of his friends and family so I don't. I still T ranked that file though.>>738261052I avoid putting the eggs in the container on the violent file, and I purposely choose "no" to the forgotten man on every weird route encounter. Also for violent file specifically, I made sure to unrecruit Rabbick in Chapter 3.>>738261194I'm just satisfied being fully prepared for everything that matters at this point.
I think Chapter 5 might have some lighthearted moments but it will only be to make whatever bad thing is coming at the end even worse.
>>738261371Waterfall is nowhere as somber and despairing as the Church, except for the geno variation.
>>738260173I still believe in the flower darkners that will be like the human souls and you can't stop me
>>738260895Half of this shit won't matter lol
>>738261781You have no idea how hard I want every single flower to be full fledged darkners. For years. But I'm not getting heartbroken over this shit again.
>>738261884I will always have HOPE
>>738261486Yeah but that's the point. You can't have the characters be dragged through the dirt for four chapters straight and maintain any meaning to the misery, this isn't berserk. They have to have some sort of respite.
>>738261954My hope died once I had to play Zelda for the 5th time in a TV dark world
My dream is for every faggot that ever doubted Asriel Knight theory to eat a bag of dicks for how much they've mocked me for even entertaining the possibility that it could be anyone but a Holiday.
>>738260895Pacifist weird route is the right way to play. Only dumbass Chara-brained retards do weird route with violence.
>>738259057I'm hoping for a loli Krissy cameo.
>>738262172Agreed, but even Chara doesn't do mindless killing, after all she's the feeling of stats increasing, including gold. You need to kill with a purpose
>>738261486The Church has a somber atmosphere and tension between Susie and Ralsei but it also has Gerson yucking it up, goofy redditor cups and the Halloween Youtube Poop boss. The Second Sanctuary is more surreal than somber and the Third Sanctuary is an outright heroic climax. I wouldn't call it despairing or depressing, the lowest moment at the very end is even countered by Susie's relentless optimism and the triumphant return of the guitar riff when you seal the fountain.Undertale and Deltarune are both full of up and down swings between serious scenes and comic relief, every section of both games has both. For Deltarune especially it's important, the whole game exists in the tension between the fun fantasy adventures with your friends and the unpleasant reality underneath. That tension and dissonance is exactly what Toby wants you to feel, that's the draw.
>>738262446"Chara-brained" doesn't mean Chara's personality trait so much as it means retards who do what they think Chara would do and project their actions onto her.
>>738261865t. bricked his save files
>>738253390I want UTY to be canon just so that Kanako's cunny would also be cunon.
>>738262709Oh yeah, that makes more sense. I think genocide brained gets the point across better.
>>738262870die
>>738262870Live
>>738262870based
>>738262172I used violence in the weird route because frankly I do not see any other place where it would fit. I'm already killing some darkners anyway, might as well fight everyone I can, and it's nice that you can use your more high damaging items on more enemies other than the forced fights.
>>738262870Canon Clover cunny...
>>738263792It's even harder to imagine Clover with a cunny than Kris.
>>738263353>scaring away potential future ice shock victimsCongrats on bricking your weird route
>>738263835You just have to imagine harder.
Hurry up, Toby. I'm tired of delaying my suicide for this game.
In the world of Deltaswap these threads are weekly and 80% of anons believe that Kris is a girl.
>>738264653This would imply people would see my human lolis as dude and that's a nightmarish reality
>>738264653why did the swap make Noelle asian
>>738265070Idk.
>>738265070They swapped from aryan to honorary aryan.
>>738264864I almost mistook this for a ZeroRanger poster, but the peach color is wrong.
>>738265104sex
>>738262172pacifist weird route while also choosing the options that piss off Kris the most. >Make them bite their hand>Try to make them pray for Noelle only for them to kick the candles>Nice to literally everyone elseimagine the seethe they must be going through that (you) are just screwing with them and Noelle and Noelle even likes it
>>738265234I guess it's a similar artstyle
I need to get comfy with Tori.
>>738267529People still like Toriel here?
>>738267792Yes, cry about it elsewhere
>>738267792Yes
>>738250796I do hope if we see him its in some freaky mixed media fashion at this point it would be a bit lame for Wing Gaster to just walk on screen with a blackened sprite and then it reveals him
>>738250729Toby will unfortunately continue to character assassinate Toriel because he hates us the most>>738267792Since 2013
>>738250796As a teaser for 6 only.
>>738266857Do all this but also do some bullshit things like T ranking minigames or no hitting tough enemies so he gets a sense of fear that he can't do shit to (You) as you molest his girlfriend in his own body.
>>738249415is it?IS IT?
>>738255863>schizoboss is not connected to the world or planned since the beginning>its just toby sucking off ZUN and adding a random touhou girl OC
>>738269002Ch5 this month, trust
i predict a 4th of july release for ch5 it's a celebration, there will be festivalsand it reaffirms that the latinx have no place in the ut/dr fanbase
>>738269090ERAM was essentially a complete asspull that makes virtually no sense given the current context we have so it's pretty viable
Chapter 6 will have a mexican stereotype darkner that is a joke on the twitter drama
>>738269002No. Enjoy WAITing lmao.
>>738269204That's still too early and Toby is a nipponese now.
>>738260895File 1>pacifist>SWORD route>killed the titan spawn with the black shardFile 2>pacifist>weird route>sword route>killed the titan spawn with the black shardFile 3>pacifist>no sword route but still beat the knight>didnt kill the titan spawn with the black shard
>>738260895>>738269659WR on any of the slots will permataint the rest of the game.
>>738260895>>all soul-selected options are kris-alignedKris is working with the Knight, proper pacifist is anti Kris aligned. You work only for the good of others, not the Roaring gang.
>>738260895FUNNIEST file>fought all of chapter 1>leave jevils door open and didnt fight him>pacifist chapter 2>aborted snowgrave>got spamton's loaded disk and just left >pacifist chapter 3>let toriel throw tenna out and dont visit castle town>SWORD route but leave the final game unfinished>beat the knight anyway and leave the shadow crystal/dark shard on the ground>pacifist chapter 4>make noelle wait for you and susie's date>fight gerson but lose and just leave>kill the titanspawn without the blackshard>"good, keep smiling" for ralsei
>>738262870BASED kanacunny lover
>>738268709krispy creme wants the dino. the doe belongs to (you). even gave her a ring. no backing out now
>>738270094>>got spamton's loaded disk and just leftconfirmed pointless, doesn't carry over
>>738267792I don't care about Assgore.
>>738270094>>let toriel throw tenna out and dont visit castle towncan you actually do this?
>>738269949It'll probably only taint it if it's fully completed like Undertale genocide letting you puss out at the very last second.
>>738250321we aren't ready for that convo yet
>>738270094Most of this will also not matter.
>>738270517people were bringing it up in ch2 and especially after 3&4 i'm willing to let it slide because the story is clearly supposed to be gassing susie up right now so she cane be rugpulled later, but if she's still presented as nigh perfect outside of being a little dumb then yeah it's a valid criticism
>>738270094>let toriel throw tenna out and dont visit castle townI did this with my weird route which I haven't visited Castle Town once in all 4 chapters. I'd be disappointed if Toby forgor and Tenna ended up showing up in Chapter 5 Castle Town somehow (I won't save when checking of course).
>>738270286Yea, just don't go to Castle Town and don't go north after leaving Noelle's house, as doing either triggers Susie bringing Tenna over. When you arrive to your house at night after the dark worlds are sealed, Tenna will be missing, both outside and inside your house where Sans is at.
>>738250321>>738270906Isn't Susie being developed to behave like a typical shonen protagonist? She even has the stereotypical obliviousness to a love interest.
>>738270581Our choices don't matter in general, to be fair.
>>738270094>blueballs route
>>738269204>4th of july release on america's 250th birthdayMixed feelings on this one
>>738250796>already talking to (us) at the end of chapter 3His appearance is imminent for sure
>>738271394Yes but these choices won't even be acknowledged.
>>738270094>>738270189Can you keep the keygen?
>>738270906it's actually kind of weird how different susie is in chapter 1 v s 2i get she still is pretending to be a bad girl in chapter 1 but even after she "turns" in chapter 1 she is still tough and headstrong. chapter 2 her futa balls are cut off and she becomes a generic shonen protag, sad
How can someone say our choices don't matter when we can decide if Tenna and Jackenstein live or not.
>>738273208Because the game is gonna end the same way anyway. Yeah, you saved Tenna and Jackenstein, but that's not gonna change how this whole thing ends.
>>738273010i think the passage of time influenced toby's writing more than even he himself thinks she's clearly written as being more friendly with kris than a mere 3 days suggests, even if the game occasionally brings up how little time has actually passed i think some of it is also the original susie personality bleeding through, according to toby susie was just slightly more tomboyish maya fey and the bully persona came later
>>738273010I think that's the result of Toby not having a clear vision of how things will play out in while working on ch1. At first she was modeled after Maya Fey, but she slowly changed as he wrote ch1. We know Toby got the full story together sometime in 2020 iirc, he probably changed his mind again and/or had scenes he wanted to add that required her to change way faster than she realistically should have.
>>738273582>she's clearly written as being more friendly with kris than a mere 3 days suggestsKris and Susie already liked each other. Susie just couldn't admit it because she was seethingly jealous of Kris and Kris didn't play along with her bully persona
>>738273870kris liked susie but i think her jealousy prevented her from actually liking kris until ch1 when they got to know each other better i also don't think she'd be as ride or die with kris until the end of ch4 when she saw toriel's little bitty with sans, and how kris reacted to it
>>738264653>>738264864Erm sweetie kris is is actually ‘the guy’ in the prophecy
>>738274224let's consult the chart and see where kris falls
>>738273208Susie acted as deltarune’s flowey, a character who makes an explicit statement on how their world works only for the rest of them game to prove them wrong. Only instead of defying floweys kill or be kill philosophy leading to the best possible ending, trying to break the prophecy seems to lead to everything crashing and burning harder
how will non-binary and yuritards cope when the weird route ends up featuring a pregnancy allegory with noelle?
>>738274224>A world where FemKris is the default but all other humans are seen as maleThe monkeypaw...
>>738274747Being possessed by us gives Kris a futacock
>>738264653>>738265104whats the source for these?
>>738274747everyone knows that girls reproduce by budding
>>738274861>female SOUL who experiences male pleasure by making Kris jack off>male SOUL who gives girlKris a phantom dick orgasm by jacking off to herHave the mentally ill teens on Ao3 done this yet
>>738275886>
>>738276224A female soul would make Kris into a cuntboy with those rules.
>>738276461I like Kris and the SOUL sharing senses more than the SOUL modifying Kris's bodyunless it's "girlKris grows a dick and it makes her so uncontrollably horny she sticks it in anyone she can get her hands on"
>>738276931I think you might just like cocks, anon.
>>738277015I mean I like pussy too, but nobody likes cuntboysI also can't relate to having a pussy so the idea of Kris wanting to get knocked up or having cramps isn't as appealingThere's things you could do with female SOUL + male Kris but a lot of it probably leads to forcefem/sissy shit which I don't really like eitherIt could be fun to frame Kris's androgyny as them just suddenly becoming unnaturally feminine when possessed by the SOUL, getting hormonal around cute fluffy boys like Ralsei and attracting lesbians like Noelle and "straight" Berdly. "I swear I'm not gay I just have a woman's SOUL" uh huh sure bud.
i need more bullet hell rpg tobias i tried a traditional jrpg and wanted to kill myself
do they not teach kids about Ctrl+F anymore
>>738277960Jesus Christ why are there so many threads?
>>738278006hot pockets take a few minutes to heat up
>>738277960none of those have the full term deltarune so how are people going to ctrl F for them?
>>738278115They should have searched for this thread before making their own, dumbass
>>738277726It's just that I would rather fuck female humans myself rather than giving them dicks so I don't see the appeal as a sexual fetish. I was seeing this situation as a joke rather than a fetish itself, like the male SOUL makes FemKris masculine and vice versa for funny hijinks.
>>738275747it is a soundcloud AU called darkheart, lame. those are the worst kinds because its just music with sometimes cool graphics but no actual game. at least with a fic you can just read it
>>738277960that's unusual, the janny generally nukes any stray threads instantly
>>738278096At least this means there's still a lot of people wanting these threads unlike what some say.
>>738278187It's based on an Underswap AU as well.https://youtu.be/dKf4mL7AEsYI don't mind it too much if I just want to listen to some tunes.
>>738278185Possession/shared senses stuff (especially crossgender) is pretty niche and I never really thought about it applying to Kris and the SOUL before so I wanted to get some of that out, my bad(Come to think of it, it could work with Frisk and Chara too, or even do Red & Yellow and get Clover in there...)You could definitely take a SFW/comedy angle with the idea, people going "what the fuck why is Kris so pretty/handsome all of the sudden" is good material
>>738250321And then she pulls this face on you and reveals that it's all a play of her own design and you'll be making stories together for the rest of eternity
>>738278758I mean, these threads are pretty degenerate already and there's almost nothing to discuss so you can discuss the fetish I awakened in you I guess. I think I've seen more of the possession fetish with Frisk/Chara than Kris but I'm no expert in it.But yeah I intended that to be a comedy but you can add Noelle being involved into it if we end up possessing her as well.
Deltarune is a lot like an isekai series if you think about it, there's a ton of those where someone meets God and gets put into a fantasy world as a fully-formed teenager with special powersBut it's a subversion in that your "reincarnation" is hijacking somebody's existing life and they're still around in their body so you fight over it and tell them what to do. There's so much isekai shit out there I wonder if any of them have actually taken this angle.
>>738278997I can't remember when a game bamboozled me this hard the last time.Oh wait I actually do, it was the moment "fairy tales" was revealed to be all bullshit too.
>>738274120>i also don't think she'd be as ride or die with kris until the end of ch4 when she saw toriel's little bitty with sans, and how kris reacted to itA note on this in the normal route susie comes back to yell at them making kris considering going out the window to meet up with her.While in the weird route she doesn't come back to the house to yell at them, meaning the well weird shit you've been doing with kris resulted in her not getting as attached as she normally would have.It's a neat detail me thinks
>>738279197i think it has something to do with the creepy pasta screen before you enter the church again, susie looked spooked and whatever kris said likely rattled her
>>738279108I've seen fanfics before Deltarune released with that premise so it definitely exists. We need to find one to claim Toby is a hack for tracing it.
>>738279197>when you make friends with some cool people for the first time in years but they disappear together behind your back and don't want to talk about it afterward
>>738274747FemKris already gives you the pregnancy allegory by being inside Kris already.
Anyone recognise this Japanese creator?
>>738279396That's la creatividad.
>>738279369>the baby is (you)bravo tobima
>>738249415People don't understand that crystal Susie is her version on Weird Route when we pick Noelle as our waifu instead of her like on normal route. Krusie is the default route and the true route.
>>738279332poor girl got cucked, creepypasta'd and a brutal reality check all in one day
>>738279546that's just an average day for noelle though
>>738272128Nope. It's genuinely disappointing. I was expecting Chapter 3 to have a "Bring Spamton to Tenna" and "Bring Chapter 2's cast to Chapter 3" route. But I guess Kris fucked it all up overnight. Just another reason to end that bastard's life when we get the chance since he's willingly obstructing the mission.
>>738279396American Kojima
>>738250796If chapter 5 is the Fakeout ending, yes.
>>738279526I don't know about that, I just know that the game pretending like Noelle is in genuine love with Susie while Weird route proves that she's literally ONE DREAM AWAY from dropping Susie like a sack of shit and trying to get with Kris makes me confused and even slightly mad.
>>738279492The most raped girl in fiction.
>>738279546I hope we arent getting into "Susie adopted by Toriel" storyline, because along with Suselle plotline its a double cucking of Krusie and Kriselle at the same time.
>>738279369Damn, I want to be inside all humans.
>>738279789i just want kris to be happy of her own volitionis that so much to ask?
>>738279789
>>738279957Whoah whoah WHOAH, SUSIE NO, THAT'S SACan't comment on whoever is groping the tiddy because I have no idea whose hand that is.
>>738279630>>738279957Kris is for suffering.
>>738280019only one i can think of is the knight, but the knight's hands don't look like that
>>738279957You'll have to guide her towards happiness, otherwise she'll just keep on ruining herself.
>>738264653>>738265104Swaps in deltarune work way better than in undertale, funny
>>738274647You know the colors pink and yellow are deeply associated with the king in yellow?Mostly because the original book was in split into 2 sectionYellow:knowledge Pink:loveFull of short stories, the stories I yellow always ended in tragedy while the ones in pink were more... neutral.The king in yellow would operate by luring artistic and obsessive individuals that would slowly reveal that everything they were doing and will happen was predetermined like they were just actors in a play and they can't change the script and they would usually start losing it as things start getting freaky.Which all has incredibly similar connotations to deltarune, cause that's literally what happens to the schizo bosses and what may be happening to even the players...
>>738280103Angst and sufferingCanonically even
>>738280191I don't know why Kris x Dess turns me the fuck on like this.
>>738280312I disagree, I think Underswap works better simply because we know all the characters.
>>738279197Why do so many people miss that Kris getting up to go to the window is a suicide attempt? Kris is on the second floor. It's framed, timed, and executed like a suicide attempt, including the talking down from the ledge at the last minute.
>>738280458Oops, meant for >>738280312
>>738280458>Dess is the SOULBiggest lore.
>>738273582>>738273713It's clear he really wants Susie to be goofy, but also wanted to shoehorn his bully girl fetish in her, the result is a mess of a character arc for her.Toby was not ready for a story of this scope, couldn't plan ahead well and the episodic format just makes it more jarring how often he changed his mind on things. He probably got more jaded after living through the pandemic, and having to deal with the mess that was developing chapter 3.
I'm almost certain next chapter is the roaring. There's too much bait for it. Shop 3 is the theme for most shops from now on? End of the crystal plot line, and Seam pocketing them? No mention of ANYTHING past Asgore in Chapter 4 other than the tragedy and roaring? I'm meant to believe we'll actually see Asriel again? Endless dark for Chapters 6 and 7. I would stake my life on it.
>>738280503Probably because trying to suicide from a second floor sounds extremely hard to do. I mean, I guess if you land headfirst, but I think most people are really just going to assume Kris wanted to leave with Susie. It's kind of the same motivation either way, Kris just wants to escape this shit fucking life situation, which could be accomplished either with suicide or by running away with Susie and probably telling her about the whole plot and hoping she'll understand.
>>738280612i think she underwent rapid character development in ch1 because toby was unsure if he could make the rest, so he at least wanted susie to be at least partially realizedunfortunately this had adverse effects on her character when he did decide he could make the game, since now she's pretty static and only reacting to things happening around her
>>738280470Underswap or shiftfell too work nice because it makes a substancial change beyond skeleton wanking, and some charisk or painBut the swap of spamelle for example is a complete sequence break with a lot to dig previous the main events and afterwards, same with those picsThe thing with UT is that despite the changes it is always a fixed set of events, true that might come from the fact is a complete game, but for now the DR ones feel more open
>>738280503I think people just assumed he was going to chase Susie down just by how it was framed. The pacing was a bit weird with the timeskip and toriel getting boned which made it seem like Susie stood outside for a few minutes before saying something to the two.
What’s the first thing you anons will do when we get to play as Noelle?
>>738280673I've been baited before with that fucking smiling TV, this wouldn't be surprising at all. But I'm still expecting this chapter to be a "normal" dark world at least at first, and the roaring starts by the end.
>>738280561Who hasn't met a cool big sis like dess?It is a basic desireMakes monke brain go brrr
>>738280817vs susie secret boss
>>738280801>that picrelWhat a bunch of pseudo intellectual nonsense
>>738280817Masturbate.
>>738280817Wake up as that's not happening.
>>738280503A 2nd floor jump is going to at most break a leg more likely sprain a ankle, and if you're a person that actually knows what their doing with falls somewhat minimal chance of injury, and from the weird shit kris has done he'd probably be completely fine, likely has climbed out his windows multiple times.I mean people have tried killing themselves off a 2nd floor jump, but it only works if they directly fall on their head but even then it there's like a 50/50 it doesn't.that's not even mentioning kris has a much much more important and sure fire way to kill himself, ie. THE PLAN
>>738280817we definitely won't get to play as Noelle but when we're on the festival date and Noelle keeps talking to (you) and, or when (you)/ the vessel and Noelle run off to do prophecy business it'll make Kris seethe to the heavens. and that will be hilarious
>>738280503Why would he do that? I can just reload a save file. He literally can't die so long as I keep ass raping him with my will
>>738280503That whole scene is really weird if you apy attention.The jitterbugging noises suddenly stop when Susie starts talking. At first I assumed she rushed back there to scold Toriel and Sans for being bastards, but she isn't at the door outside and others have pointed out it was just representing a shift in attention from Kris.On the suicide thing, I assumed he was going to yet again run around preparing for future chapters like we know he did at least for chapter 3, since chapter 1's ending.
>>738280992Game?
>>738281220"lost deltarune" on gamejolt
>lesbian that goes straight as soon as she meets a a dominant man that makes her tingleNoelle is the most realistic woman ever written.
>>738281298chudly is straight and he also is interested in krisface it hoss, your alpha male gigachad pc is actually a dainty girl with scruffy hair
>>738280780Going to be fully honest but I mostly only care about AUs to see different designs for my favorite characters rather than big plot changes and a new story. For that I just prefer regular fanfics. But isn’t stuff like Spamelle the same thing as a regular Undertale AU? She just traces Spamton steps but in a Noelle style. I don't see many Deltarune AUs that do a completely different story.
>>738281021I legitimately unironically no joke want the game's ending to involve every character that ever inadvertently alienated Kris to bawling their fucking eyes out when it turns out Kris sacrificed himself or was about to and they realize they contributed to it. I need that catharsis in my life.
daily reminder that sans knows (You) and everything (You) are about to do in the next X Years after the [WAIT]. When we all first met him 10 years ago, he knew he was sitting with the younger version of the entity that sent him to Undertale
>>738281298So why was Noelle inching slowly closer and closer to Kris in this scene?
>>738280874My wife is getting fat...
>>738281273Worth playing?
>>738281657people are under the incorrect impression that the doe was the rapee instead of the raper
>>738281654Sans doesn’t know us at all in this game. I don’t even think he’s aware of the 4th wall at all here either
>>738281657Because she wanted to speak to her about what happened last night and wanted to be comforted by what she thought was the old Kris. She wasn't her old self so Noelle got mind broken.
>>738280817
Another day, another Kris is the girl offensive.
>>738281657she was tearing to see if (you) would pop out
>>738281775Honestly I don't think Kris is THE girl of the prophecy. She's just a girl (who would have been the villain love interest for the Vessel if it didn't get discarded)
>>738281758no one gives a FUCK about your dead sister
>>738279369you telling me we're a friend inside kris
>>738280503Anon, he went to the window because he heard Susie. He was going to climb out and go after her. Kris was going to run away, at least for the night.A fall from 10 feet isn't going to kill a healthy teenager, kids sneak out of the house all the time.
>>738281657She's attracted to the old Kris that comforted her the night before.
>>738277960thats it ANOTHER TRILLION DELTARUNE THREADS
>>738280730>toby was unsure if he could make the restHow could he even think that? Undertale was a hit and had a rabid fanbase hungry for more, of course the promise of an Undertale 2 would work out.But I'll give this whole thing a second thought: the way the characters and plot have progressed so far would mostly make sense if this was a 5 chapters game, with 1 setting things up, 2 as the "ongoing" adventure, 3 being the jarring tonal shift, 4 raising the stakes and 5 being the fallout of everything.Given how 5 was supposed to be the end of this batch, and things like the shadow crystals and eggs will (probably) stop after, I still suspect 6 and 7 will be a total change in direction, almost like an extended epilogue.
>>738281569I personally wanna see kris snap and basically go "FUCK THIS, FUCK YOU, FUCK EVERYTHING I WANNA LIVE!"and do some something absolutely insane and awe inspiring shithttps://youtu.be/RbWZByi7cRc?si=tH9DlKssPqTRJ1Kwbut maybe such a thing would be spurred on by kris seeing what you described and coming to a realization
>>738280503when you were a healthy teenager could you not jump out from a second story window? what are you a fraud?
>>738281898Yes :)
>>738281657She was going for a kiss and didn't realize Kris was uncomfortable af.Now that I type it out, I wonder if she's aware Kris does kind of miss her, and so in her mind there was absolutely no consideration for the possibility she'd get rejected.
>>738277960Five Hundred Deltarune Threads
>>738281712He still has obnoxious teleportation abilities though, even in a world without magic.
>>738281775>>738281883Of all the crack theories, this is the one I want to be true the most just for the shitshow from all sides that would ensue.
>>738282001I just want Kris to be revealed to be Chara.
>>7382808171. Masturbate until I pass out2. Call Kris and tell him there's this freaky floating heart in my room and he needs to come over and help me right now3. Overpower Kris and rape him until we pass out
>>738280730Since Toby's gone full weeb, he could have gone the one shot route and just have Chapter 1 be the prototype of what could happen and have the actual development play out longer when more "official" chapters get added.
>>738281654Sans doesn't fully know the player and there's no reason for him to think Frisk is Kris when they don't act alike. Sans doesn't even know that most of resets weren't even caused by Frisk but Flowey as his dialogue in his fight is the same even in your first playthrough.
>>738282138Kris is already the Deltarune counterpart of Chara in personality, looks, social background, and even tastes. It's Frisk that's missing a Deltarune counterpart right now.
>>738281697not really
>>738282346the one who comes out of nowhere and saves the day or kills everyone? That's just (you) and the vessel
>>738282138You mean like possessed by Chara or that Kris is deltartune's version of Chara? The latter is incorrect, while he borrows traits from both Frisk and Chara, he is his own unique character.
>>738282346he's chillin with undyne and gaster
>>738282441she*
>>738282441What trait does he even borrow from Frisk? That he's a human controlled by a player through a soul with his eyes always closed (but not really closed and you can't tell because the hair's always in the way)?
>>738282682kris is still a he even if she is a girl
>>738282565*she
>make a goner in the gonermaker>kris somehow has a goner hand after meeting a cat in the forest >goner hand can grab the sovl somehow what does it meeaaaaaaaaaan
the lack of newsletter spoilers feels like withdrawal after how much he shared shit from 3 back in the day
>>738282346Frisk's counterpart is the Vessel. Kris is Chara in Frisk's role, Vessel is Frisk in Chara's role. One stripe versus two.
>>738282802dont worry bro we just have to [WAIT] for the newsletter... any day now...
>>738282741The piss yellow skin tone for one, him being good at flirting as well. Take out the f in Frisk, rearrange the letters and you get Kris
>>738281775It's the dark horse and monkeypaw theory for a reason.>>738282138I don't think that will officially happen, just be heavily, heavily implied.
>>738282986The flirting comes from us. Kris’s similarities to Kris are superficial.
>>738283038*to Frisk
>>738281996Because he wasn't sure if people would take it as "Undertale 2". He didn't make it to be such, after all.
I need your thoughts on Rudy Knight
>>738283038The command to flirt comes from us, the WAY they flirt is different.
>>738282986>Take out the f in Frisk, rearrange the letters and you get KrisIf you want to make that stretch of a connection, Kris's name starts with the same sound as Chara's. And whose to say that Chara's real name in Undertale isn't Kris? Chara is just a default name recommended by Toby, but it was never truly "Chara" and was just "the first human".
>>738282802>Picreldiscuss
>>738282802How much of chapter 3 did the newsletters really manage to spoil, though? The stuff we got previews of was the inconsequential parts. People expecting every preview to be of something important and for the tone and focus of the previews to be preserved perfectly into the chapter were wrong.
>>738283169papyrus knight part 2i don't even mind rudy being somewhat important down the line, i just think he's a bad fit for the knight from what we know of both of them
>>738283038Toby says otherwise. Besides, it's clear he wanted you to think of Frisk when you first boot up ch1 and see Kris, ergo Kris is a blend of Frisk and Chara while being his own character.
>>738253390UTY is great for gameplay and most of their main cast's character designsand honestly, the neutral and genocide routes are extremely viable ways to enjoy the game. They just desperately wanted to have a big plot event, and decided to shove it all in the second half of the game such that it becomes the Ceroba show
>>738283038The flirting does come from Kris, they just wouldn't without our involvement.This is the same thing as the Colourize ACT in Swatchling's fight, you can tell Kris to think of something warm, but Kris is the one who picks out what to say.
>>738283169My favorite non-Dess knight theory. Not perfect, but the details that become coherent foreshadowing if you assume it's true are worth enough of an eyebrow raise that I can respect it nonetheless.
>>738260895I sort of just use saves to have >main route>secret boss>(if good) chapter bossin case I wanna play a highlight of the game again
>>738283284This scene (and the muted guitar string event played in the code) is kthe smoking gun for the Knights identity.
>>738283489B-but the muted guitar strum means it's UNUSED and the idea of UNUSED having anything at all to do with the knight is COMPLETELY LUDICROUS!
>>738283169It would be kino but like others have pointed out. He has no mandatory scenes rn so Toby would have to start pushing him on screen in future chapters otherwise the reveal would be a literally who to some people.
>>738249590>>738250409>>738261095composing the music is pretty hard, please understand.
>>738283169If he had just a bit more set up, he'd work.The problem is that Rudy would basically have to exposition dump about his relationship with Dess out of nowhere.>Hey Kris and Susemeister, let me tell you about my love of Baseball and Guitars that I passed down to Dess, my beloved missing daughter that I would do ANYTHING to get back.
>>738283486>he can't manipulate his chapter save files to for both standard gameplay and boss rush by just not saving before reaching the end of the chaptersngmi
>>738283534shh anon. you're rubbing two brain cells together. the anti-dessknighters don't like that
>>738283703You are right, the only one I can't do that with is GersonCommitting doe rape brb
someone post the comic of the vessel mouthraping femkris from a few threads ago
>>738283486>(if good) chapter bossKing and the Titan are already at the last saves of their chapters, and Tenna is borderline the same, so this is only a problem with Queen.
>>738283806
>>738283779>the only one I can't do that with is GersonOne of my completed Chapter 4 saves has its last save at the point right before Gerson can be fought, you just gotta try harder
>>738283396Heavy disagree with main cast designs, the only ones I like are Clover and Axis.
>>738283169It's my favorite after anything Dess related but he's too sidelined to work. However Asgore being the one who took Undyne and him laughing because Susie was right on the money is kino.
>>738283273It's been 7 years so don't expect me to remember everything, but chapter 2 we got:>Jevil's mention of Queen>very on the nose remark about going into the computer lab soon>Noelle's darkworld form>Noelle's leitmotif revealed>Cybercity's basic tileset and song>the two hospital themed enemies as red herring(technically some of those are from the old blog but that was the prototype for newsletters)For chapter 3:>[Gameshow Host]>[CRTs]>........Mike.............>D A M N Y O U T E N N A>Seam mentioning the shadow mantle and future secret bosses>All the shit they watched on TV by the end of chapter 2>The smiling TV teaser>FRIEND>shadowguys>weather couple>green room>cancelled cowboy show>sneaking unused song>mentions of many gimmicks>8 bit Lancer>glaceirFor chapter 4:>various mentions of Gerson>Alvin digging up the grave>[Communion]>cup niggas>a bit of Jackenstein's song>cathedral looking assets that came in very late in that WAIT cycle>a surprising lot about the egg room>Battat's minigame
>>738283203You don't need to go that far. You can just say Chara is the name the humans gave to her while Kris is the name the Dreemurrs (and the Holidays) gave to him.
>>738283915The only ones I outright dislike are Dalv and ChujinCeroba and Martlet are fine, but don't look like Undertale charactersClover, Axis and Starlo fit in
>>738283210oddly good chapter 4 prediction right after vanilla chapter 3 prediction that got all wrong
>This is what desstards want to have sex with
>>738283210This will always be bullshit.
>>738284269You got it backwards, anon.I don't want to have sex with that.I want that to have sex with me.
>>738284269
>>738284269Erotic
>>738283169Autistic. It's obvious Knight is a girl deer so only Carol, Dess or Noelle are a legit theory to entertain.
>>738284102>her>himYou're already implying they're completely different people even in the AU sense.
>>738284269feddy fezbear
>>738284502You don't know that. Maybe Rudy has some crazy fucking hips going on under those hospital bed sheets, huh? How do you know he doesn't, huh?
>>738284269This kind of stuff always reminds me of that one monster kissing cutscene from the Witcher 3.
>>738284269imagine the smell
>>738284513Chara is a trans girl, that's why she climbed the mountain
>>738284564he has a point, anon. rudy is the twink, after all
>>738282778
i think asriel was probably the knight in toby's first draft of deltarune but he wanted to replace him in that role with a new character after undertale and that's why dess is probably the knight
toby should've leaned into the creepypasta/ analog horror potential for the ch5 build upinstead, we got tobyland and then nothing for monthshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QuN2Fl2j1l8
>>738284818The easiest grenade Toby could throw at us is giving us another entry from Dess's blog
>>738284694Heh, I get it.
>>738284818What do you think the smile ARG was?
>>738284818Isn't all creepypasta-like horror going to involve the weird route? There wasn't any creepypasta-like horror in Undertale's pacifist route, not even in True Lab.
>>738284925toby getting increasingly frustrated that nobody could figure out his mystery because he failed to realize he didn't leave enough clues for people to put it together without the whole story
Now that I've been playing Deltarune again recently in preparation for Chapter 5, my stance on Chapters 3 and 2 basically flipped. Chapter 2 takes fucking forever but Chapter 3 was always fun for me. Only big hit I can give it is the Zelda segments not being able to save when I have to suddenly go do something. Other than that I'm glad it actually pushed the plot forward and sowed important seeds for the important stuff that happens later and will happen later. Now it feels batshit insane when anons say that they wanted Deltarune to be Chapter 2 for 5 whole chapters minimum. I don't think I could've stood Susie being a complete moron and not knowing Darkners were fake until The Roaring or whatever
>>738284802>actually I was correct in an early draft that nobody has ever seen or will seeI see the cope has already started. How convenient that it's impossible to prove but also impossible to disprove.
>>738285024I wonder if this is something obvious with hindsight like the computer lab, or he really didn't leave enough clues.
>>738284995there's some non-weird route things that can still be pulled off with a creepier tone, like kris/ noelle's backstory and the whole therapy thing that's been alluded to a couple of times
>>738285024>toby getting increasingly frustrated that nobody could figure out his mysteryIf you think that there was ever a correct answer you're not gonna make it
>>738285038What is wrong with this anonShould we put him out of his misery
>>738285024You can't actually be dumb enough to believe that.
>>738284818>analog horroryou need to be at least 18 to post here. restraint makes the actual creepy moments creepy. the only way lolsorandom dialogue and edgekino hidden in the code works is if you hold back.
>>738284802it's unclear if asriel was even a character when toby came up with the knightthe only characters we know existed way back in the day were kris, susie, jevil, and lancerafaik ralsei and noelle came a little bit later, but it's unclear when
>>738285037Most of Chapter 2 is really good and funny, so people just forget the parts that fucking drag like Sweet Cap'n Cakes and the whole extended puzzle segment where Noelle extremely awkwardly third wheels the group
>>738285138chapter 5 is going to be despair kino on the weird route.
>>738285190people also forget that ralsei is just sorta around for most of the chapter, most characters don't even acknowledge that he's even there until the end
>>738285037>Now it feels batshit insane when anons say that they wanted Deltarune to be Chapter 2 for 5 whole chapters minimumBecause 1+2 were just more Undertale, and UT was, in fact, the Ruins template repeated across 4 areas (or about 80% of the normal route).But I do agree Chapter 2's normal route feels very odd in hindsight, even Chapter 1 feels more in line with the current game when we got shit like King threatening to kill Lancer and then faking a change of heart. Queen doesn't earn GALLERY playing on her cutscene, and they all laugh about it in the end like a cheesy sitcom.
>>738285096This. The setup is so obvious>open the ARG the first time to get a list of "trusted" emails so when it opens again (for real this time) people can't overload the system by trying to bruteforce it with burner emails>close the ARG for a while>open it again, give out vague answers so that people understand (if only vaguely) what/who the question is about>close it without a definitive answer so that people will play the new chapter(s) with the question in mind>(you are here)>open it again after the answer (if there even is one) has become obvious, shenanigans ensueNobody "got it" the first two times because it isn't meant to be solved yet or maybe ever. It's a foreshadowing device.
>>738285281which is still very strange after chapter 4 confirmed that Noelle remembers and recognizes him
>>738284269https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhdxmRalJm0
Did anyone see the cut Ramb dialogue?
>>738284513>He has never heard of AU genderbends beforeI just view them as different genders, so think of it as rule 63
>>738285569saw people talking about itpost eet
>>738285615
>>738285179That concept art is from 2014, Asriel already existed then.
>>738285227everyone who thinks chapter 5 isn't going to be a cliffhanger and deltarune will blow its load on EITHER route doesn't understand toby is a weeb. we are in the buildup episode where everyone is getting ready to enter the climax fight and the animators are saving up the budget. >b-but my tobyposts about original release plansYes, but plans change. as much as i want to torture kris, the Suffering tonal shift will be chapter 6.>see, True Lab before GOD OF HYPERDEATH
>>738285190>Sweet Cap'n Cakes I've been complaining about them since the start. Now I kinda miss that vibe, it's as if they don't belong in the same game as 3+4.>and the whole extended puzzle segmentIt's just a bland tail-end of the cybercity that gets skipped on the weird route.
>>738285640What the FUCK does this mean? Kris forgot everything involving the Dess incident?
>>738285640>kris doesn't remember his childhood very well>darkners have at least some memories of their fountain creatorso this flat out confirms that whoever made the ch2 fountain didn't know about the roaring, yeah? since queen has no idea until ralsei spills the beans on it
Toby… please… PLEASE… give us a newsletter… NAY! I’ll take just a teaser… just ONE teaser Toby please I’m starving
>>738285774Do you think he will make another trailer or livestream to hype 5?
>>738285640this sure sounds like it's suggesting a "Kris was involved in a horrible accident involving Dess as a child and has blocked out the memories because of trauma" sort-of-thing
>>738284694She already uses they/them no need to make her into a mentally ill men
>>738285809No, June Direct shadow drop. Boom release date July 1st
>>738285740Yes, the whole art therapy thing suggests kris was traumatized by either desster the molester or more likely Friend. Eggman is just Kris' psychiatrist who got deleted by [TBD]
>>738262870Given the track record with Amalgamates, She's dead, anon.
>>738285754Also for the Ch. 1 DW, since Lancer doesn't know what will happen if there's too much darkness/fountains.
>>738285809I hope he does like a week long ARG leading up to the release. It would also allow him to minmax engagement baiting that way.
>>738285640>Kris!! I watched you GROW UP!!>Just admit you NEED ME already!!>Who do you think taught you to LAUGH and CRY!?>... What, you think it's MY fault you forgot HOW!?
>>738285936I could see us getting a few more spamton pages, if nothing else. A lot of them are pretty low-effort to make but high-impact in terms of kino.
>>738285774Fuck it, I'd take a shitty ms paint doodle at this point
>>738285754>so this flat out confirms that whoever made the ch2 fountain didn't know about the roaring, yeah?No, I'm pretty sure The Roaring Knight knows about The RoaringWhat it does explain is why Queen knows that The Knight is called "The Roaring Knight" even though she doesn't know what "The Roaring" is
Newsletter tomorrowRelease date October 31
>>738285809Probably, yeah. Everybody has to remember that Deltarune is a paid multi-platform product now. Shadowdropping chapters without warning isn't really how this is going to work anymore
>>738249415>HopeKnight reveal, Papyrus & Asriel appearance, Noelle having the meltdown of the year and turning HomeTown into Hell>DreamCatti & Jockington getting an upgrade in plot relevance, another human showing up with dialogue portraits>FearPureCrystal being only for the TwistedSword and nothing else, Weird Route getting patched again>PredictionsFRIEND not being pure evil but still being an insensitive jackass with an agenda, Asgore getting fucked over, Alvin being irrelevant, maximum Dreemurr Drama, Jackenstein returning if he was saved in Chapter 4
>>738286097i dont think for a second that it'll be shadowdropped but realistically it's a content update, so all he has to do is time the nintendo/sony patch systems right and he COULD do it.If we're being honest he's probably waiting for the next nintendo direct to show anything since 3 and 4 were NS2 launch titles
>>738286048in fact there was a whole 3 years it was just called "a strange knight" by everyone
>>738284564Rudy has a very deep voice similar to Asgore. And we know Knight uses a pitched voice of Noelle screaming when harassed by mice so its obviously a female deer. I just wish people to stop being retarded to waste time in pointless theories.
>>738252869>Chapter 5 sneaks in a slight nod to Undertale Yellow through the Yellow Flower's darkner, or is at least structured in a way that doesn't make the fangame feel dated.Undertale Yellow was dated the moment it came out, it's overrated deviantart OCslop for retards that doesn't even abide by canon
>>738285906Amalgamates survived at the end of Undertale. It's their Deltarune counterpart plus Gerson that are dead.
>>738284715Cringe tumblr faggotry meme
>>738249415>hopesall suselle teases are actually just so toby can subvert it to make a point about romance in games being trash, shitting on both sides of the fanbase (shippers and haters) at the same time>dreamsreturn to chapter 1 like atmosphere and themes, the schizo boss is seam and he is harder than the knightnoelle asks (You)r name in the weird route>fearssuselle is confirmed and played straight, weird route either ends in chapter 5 or nothing happens again like chapter 4>predictionsasgore gets ridiculed again and catti is just a joke. maybe something with jockinton. no other classmates do anything, berdly's participation in the story minimal to account for his potential fates in chapter 2
>>738286087You're smoking crack if you think a little QA and console porting is going to take almost 6 fucking months. I know it's Toby we're talking about here, but please use your brain.
>>738285024Or, Toby trying and absolutely failing to redirect us to something that was technically said, but was completely overshadowed and thus buried by everything else
>>738286417It will take at LEAST six months
>>738286483Some indie games take 6 months to make and you think console porting of a finished chapter with finished translation is going to take 6 months
>>738286417he has to quintuple check for any deflowering metaphor, please understand
>>738285849Yeah but this is more explicit proof of it, that and that Mantle is supposed to make him remember it.Fuck, FRIEND being involved into it actually got ammo now
>>738286597Yes.
>>738260895Based
>>738286087>>738286417Toby would have not confidently slapped 2026 in chapter 4's credits if 5 was supposed to release so dangerously close to this deadline. Unless something went horribly wrong, I say 4th quarter is unlikely.On the other hand, he overtly said it was unlikely to release on the first half, releasing in July right when the release window opens is also unlikely.August or September it is.
>>738286315Unfortunately, due to her Amalgamation, she was bonded to a pair of ugly hags and a fat bastard, the fat bastard was the one who got the body.
>>738286643June the 4th on exactly the same time as Chapter 3&4. Toby is that kind of faggot to drop it early while implying July or August as a release date.
>>738285179"Ralsei" sort of predates both Deltarune and AsrielThe absolute earliest evidence we have of Deltarune's production is early draft scripts from April 2012, where Toby showed off dialogue from Jevil's fight and Lancer (and implicitly King), all characters created by Kanotynes which Toby adopted for DeltaruneToby realized the scope of the project was beyond him and shelved it to start making Undertale not long after. It's pretty impossible to separate where the earliest concepts of Deltarune end and where Undertale begins unless Toby tells us something, the two stories are inseparably linked at this point.That concept art of The Fun Gang and Noelle - which Toby openly admits is altered and he's still hiding things from us - was apparently made around 2014/2015 while Undertale was well into development.There is some small reason to believe Dess might have come later. In an early version of the Undertale Alarm Clock dialogue which Toby posted on the 2nd anniversary in 2017, in Asgore's dialogue talking about Rudy he mentions "his wife and DAUGHTER," singular. Maybe that means something, maybe it doesn't.
>>738286417It will and you must cope with WAITing. Never overestimate Toby.
>>738260895I have too many games to replay it that many times. I only did second run to gather all dark shards since i skipped all bonus bosses on first playthrough.
>>738286765No he's not the time to drop it earlier, more like the opposite.
>>738253243based and truthpilled>>738286302cringe and chudpilled
>>738286747Which piece of this thing is her and which one is the fat bastard?
>>738286302Holy fucking based. They have the worst fanbase, too.
>>738286483>>738286623>>738286787We like to have fun, but after a certain point, doomfagging becomes so comically negative that you just sound retarded.
>>738286404>Festival date is going "well" on the weird route>Kris is losing it the entire time>Noelle finally pops the question "what is your name?>Apocalypse happens
>>738286886What part of Snowdrake's mom is this thing?Overworld sprites for Almalgams, aside from Endogany, have no resemblance to their Battle forms which actually look like their merged forms.
>>738287009Doomfagging would be a Christmas day release date, chapter 1 anniversary is HOPEpilled
>>738287009Doomfagging is thinking it will release in December. I believe August or September.
Give me your most unhinged theory that you GENUINELY think is true.
>>738286747>pair of ugly hags and a fat bastardUhh, who again?
>>738287230Asriel, Dess, Papyrus and Gaster will never make an on-screen appearance
>>738287230Pizzarina is real and it's all just Tricky Tony making you think it's the Nice cream guy
>>738287230I already did so, I think the Vessel is genuinely supposed to be related to Frisk which is why Clam Girl says Susie is the reason Frisk fell into the underground.
>>738287009People thought 7 years for the whole game was ridiculous, yet here we are, 11 years and counting, on track to reach 15 years once ch7 drops.
>>738287398imagine dragging her into the bedroom as she claws the walls and floor trying to stop you
>>738287298Rudy's Mom, Susie's Grandma, and this guy
>>738287401I remember theorycrafting in threads after chapter one dropped that the game would be fully done, at the absolute latest, by 2021.
>>738287504Same, though I thought there would be only 5 chapters at the time
>>738287396Pizzapants is the only one who deserves to be happy, with his Pizza Jpeg girlfriend.
>>738287482You must have consensual sex with humans, even gray ones.
>>738250796He's never showing up just talking
>>738249415>hopesToby has the BALLS to make a meaningful, impactful conflict between Kris and Susie after Susie starts picking up on Kris's fumbling every time the Knight is at reach>dreamsWeird Route shenanigans with Noelle>fearsThe opposite of my hopes, Toby being conflict-averse like a BITCH.>predictionsIt's coming out in June
>>738287230okay this one isn't that unhinged but still
>>738287837I'm fucking stupid this was the wrong image and I'm not even sure if I have the one I was thinking of lmao
>>738287398vessel = chara imo because we name it and its away from us for most of the game
How does /v/ interpret this? >The Shadow Crystal shows a world without the Shadow Crystal holder, so Susie has a cold glare because she never met Kris >The Shadow Crystal shows how the world judges someone, and everyone sees Susie as a bullyOr...>The Shadow Crystal is foreshadowing the eventual betrayal of Kris
>>738274747It already does man we're growing a soul in that bitch
>>738287230Dess is The Angel
>>738288031is there anything against >they just show the future lol
>>738288031A world without Dark Worlds.
>>738287230dess is/was the girl but got roped into being the knight. she is absurdly angry that love (the angel) has not made its way to her and she's going to make it everyone else's problem. this is why Kris abuses the soul
>>738252642it seems more like an alternate timeline imo
>>738288031It shows the world as it truly is.
>>738287230I have not updated my "Grandpa Semi is Gaster" theory since the new release and I'll not do it. (part 1)
>>738288351part 2
>>738288031Everyone seems to forget the vision you get with Noelle in your party...>You thought you saw Noelle close against you, whispering.>You put the glass to your ear...>... of course, that didn't do anything......which doesn't exactly line up with any of these interpretations
>>738288406part 3
>>738264653Does this imply a lizard mindbreak route?
>>738288425It could still be a window showing the future, maybe Noelle will whisper something in Kris's ear in another chapter. But if it REALLY is referring to what happens in the Weird Route, then it shows you a different world.
>>738288442part 4 (end)
>>738288031The Shadow Crystals show Fate. The Truth is written in glass.The Dark World is an illusion. The crystals show the Light World.Kris sees themself as The Cage. Their hand is not their own.Susie is the enemy. Kris will betray her. She is the Dragon.Noelle will guide Kris through the dark, whispering the way. This is her fated role.
>>738287973The Vessel has superficial ties to Chara while Kris has with Frisk despite they actually being the contrary.
>>738288031I think looking through the shards shows a world without Kris. He and Suzie seem to both be anomalies in some way but Kris is almost certainly some kind of human homunculus, a "cage with human parts", and was probably placed into the story by Gaster or whatever.
>>738288631>Shadoe Crystals show fateHis glasses...
>>738288031I thought it was the former but that doesn’t make sense anymore. Personally I think they show the truth which is why they show the light world in the Dark World.
>>738287230the next schizoboss is a 10 minutes unskipabble sex scene with muffet
>chapter 3 AND 4 go into QA during april of last year>releases early june>could've released earlier if not for the nintendo switch 2 release>chapter 5 goes into QA during april of this year>???>"yeah uh looking like august release at the earlier haha"Where did this retarded take come from?
>>738288846pussy so good it turns you schizo
>>738288908tweet from toby saying it's not releasing on the first half of the year
>>738288908overshot the release date so you're in for a nice surprise
>>738288846For free?!
>>738288908toby said later half this year, smart people cannot fathom how that would be possible
>>738288031>(For some reason you felt like if you throw it away...)>(It would be like throwing away someone's... ???)>(... But you didn't fully understand it.)Knowing the Crystals are given by the bosses, and two out of three of them were given to darkners to make them go cuhraizee, they might be the lost Hopes and Dreams of Lighters.
>>738288962I LOST ALL MY [#%!#]ING KROMER BECAUSE OF THIS [delicieus] [Hochi Mama]
>>738288846>>738288962>>738289014>>738289109>Muffet gets a single spider reference in chapter 4 that's incredibly missable>So Sorry gets a whole conversation in arguably one of the most lore important rooms in the game.I don't understand Toby, why??
>>738288908It's July at the absolute earliest, Toby would be contradicting himself otherwise.
>>738289082it better be a hefty chapter
>>738289014no >>738289109
>>738289132>a whole conversationit's a handful a lines his dialogue is inconsequential, don't make it out to be more than it is just because you want to be upset about something
>>738289132we're only beginning to understand how much of a shit eating faggot toby is
>>738288908Translation and playtesting for Chapter 3 & 4 was already happening in December 2024https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/holiday24/In December 2025 they were still finishing Chapter 5 and "beginning the localization process"https://toby.fangamer.com/newsletters/winter2025/Toby already pretty much said not to expect in the first half of the year, but it's not going to take the WHOLE year unless there's some unforseen catastrophic setbackThe June-August release window is like 90% likely
>>738288983>>738289082>>738289135He also said that before he got the localization done and the Q&A started.Dude's allowed to be wrong and overestimate how long shit'll take. He's no some sort of Fey that must always obey his word
>>738289195Changes very little about the absolute difference in representation, even if you are correct.
>>738289132chapter 5 festival spider bake sale 2026 trust the plan
>>738288846Holy based.
>>738289109>>738289152A price I'm willing to [PAY] with my [[RAPIDLY-GROWING]] [[#$#!]]
>>738288908>>chapter 3 AND 4 go into QA during april of last yearBecause this didn't happen, the QA for that happened much earlier.
>>738289246Because that GameMaker update totally came out by late July 2024 (or whatever was the month), right?
>>738289246Everytime Toby has been wrong about something was because he thought something would take less time than it actually did. Him doing the opposite would be a first, and based on the development of the game so far, very unlikely.
>>738289132So Sorry comes from weird time and space fuckery while Muffet is a regular monster.
>>738289246Toby only has overestimate himself, never underestimated.
>>738288908It's hard to admit it but Toby is absolutely DOGSHIT with gamedev time.
>>738289376>11 yearsFUCK OFFalso fun fact: he thought Undertale was going to be ready by 2014 back in the day.
>>738289479He will be wrong about the 11 years too, Chapter 7 is coming out in 2030
>>738288908Just whiny faggots who think they know more about Deltarune than the guy making it.
>>738289132Muffet isn't his baby, I doubt he would be opposed to including her in principle but he would feel like he needs to give the other guest characters equal time too. Do you want to actually have So Sorry in Deltarune?He probably also feels bad about shoving So Sorry in the closet and exposing Samael to ridicule over the years, even if he literally asked for it and was warned it would happen. The opaque reference to him in the Art Therapy scene is probably the best possible use of the character, and frankly an incredibly based move to have the balls to put something like that right in the middle of such a delicate place in the story.
Why is it so hard for you guys to understand: >ARG in June>June Nintendo Direct release date>July releaseGet that through your head! OBVIOUSLY Toby wouldn't let us go 3 whole months without anything new.
>>738289551I have never seen the "Deltarune was Never Good" part of this cycle.Replace it with a "Fandom goes insane and feasts upon itself"
>>738289619>OBVIOUSLY Toby wouldn't let us go 3 whole months without anything new.lollmao
>>738289619There will be no ARG or Nintendo Direct, you'll get a newsletter anywhere from July to September telling you the game is gonna come out in 3-7 days, and that's it.
>>738289619See you next month when that doesn't happen.
>>738289701>you'll get a newsletter anywhere from July to September telling you the game is gonna come out in 3-7 daysThat would be so fucking lame. The fact Toby isn't willing to let a SINGLE snippet of anything relating to Chapter 5 be teased means it'll be A BIG, BIG chapter that will really push every character to their breaking points. I doubt he would do such a lame release for Chapter 5, he's a master of building hype after all.
>>738289701There's not going to be any more surprise "A week from now!" releases now that he has to work with the control freaks running the consoles
>>738289551A whole bunch of crap here. The early 3+4 threads were shitting on the game quite a lot, specially when he tried to unrape the doe. The memes died real fast this time, the new secret bosses didn't get close even to what Jevil was, much less Spamton (Unless you count the Knight but it's a whole different category of character in practice). The defending actually went up after the hype died down, people complaining about shit like Noelle shit talking Catti probably just left early on.And you can't even blame me (Mikefag) for that because I wasn't around in the threads for the first month after release.
>>738288031The Shadow Crystals show Tenna destroyed, meaning they can't show the "truth" or a world without Kris. It can't be the future as well, unless Tenna still ends up dying later on even after we saved him. You can still save Tenna on the Weird Route, making it unlikely that they are showing the Weird Route unless Tenna still dies later.My guess? Time loops. They show the original timeline before Ralsei and Kris started fucking with it. Apparently in this timeline Kris is missing a hand, Noelle is close to Kris while Susie is cold towards Kris, and the Fun Gang chose violence during their adventures in the Dark World causing Tenna to die.
>>738289701>you'll get a newsletter anywhere from July to September telling you the game is gonna come out in 3-7 daysunserious posthttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDzgiGdekas
we're at the point where people are getting mad at toby for scenarios they imagined in their head
>>738290010>implying we haven't been at that point since September 2015
>>738289953>unless Tenna still ends up dying later on even after we saved himDo you REALLY not expect anything bad to happen in Castle Town at some point?
>Toby Fox initially wanted Chapter 3+4+5 to be released together because they would tie up the story arcWhat are the implications of Chapter 6 and 7 being so different that Toby himself sees his game in a "Pre Chapter 5" and "Post Chapter 5" order? What the fuck is gonna happen? The Roaring?
>>738290064I think it's gotten much worse in recent months
>>738290010I imagined toby was not going to answer anything and only throw more mystery boxes at us, and I was right
>>738290145You were wrong.Go ahead and list all the questions the game hasn't answered yet, I know you think that proves something.
>>738290145How dare there be mysteries in a mystery story! Go play another game if you hate it so much.
>>738290138Undoubtedly. Mindbreaking every theory ever after a 3-year drought does that. >>738290121The Roaring is the only apocalyptic "oh shit" scenario that would warrant shifting gears so drastically, yeah
>>738289701We will get something but it will probably just be the follow up to the thank you ARG
>>738289953>The Shadow Crystals show Tenna destroyedBecause Tenna was literally destroyed in that scene, saving him was walking in-between the lines.
Man. I have no idea what I'll do when this game is all over.
>>738290186wow, a mystery story that's 50% red herrings that mock you for bothering
>>738290121Playing as the Vessel and not Kris.
>Seam only needs 5 Crystals>Jackenstein's maze only shows 5 bosses>Deltarune's Spamton Sweepstakes weird route teaser only shows 5 chapters>The Forgotten Man implies the next egg will be the last one>Gerson summarized Lord of the Hammer as Chapter 5 being the last one that was writtenWhat the fuck is gonna happen in Chapter 6 and 7
>>738290349you will WAIT for:>unaltered>unrelated>nude alert>nut dealer
>>738290435Gerson said 6 was the last one. 7 was never written.
>>738289701If Deltarune isn't out by June I will cry
>>738290435that's when the CHAOS begins!
>>738290435gerson said 6 was the last one dumbass, he just didn't want to spoil it>What the fuck is gonna happen in Chapter 6 and 7roaring, and the whole thing is an endless weird darkworld like the area before castle town
>>738290561>Chapter 6&7 >RoaringNope, Roaring in Chapter 5.
>>738290010i imagine a spider crawling over my erect penis
>>738290662Anon, spiders bite people. If it's going to be biting you anywhere, don't let it bite your dick.
>>738290601roaring likely starts at the end of ch5 and continues into ch6ch7 is the wrap up
>>738290697>3+ years of WAITING holding on a roaring cliffhanger
>>738290010Toby supports people IMAGINING anything.
>>738290764remember that the original plan was for 2-5 to release all at once, before ch2 became stand alone and then the delaysall prior cliffhangers are going to look like minor speedbumps compared to whatever the fuck ch5 is going to look like
>>738290793>IMAGINE THERES NO [HEAVEN]>ITS EASY IF YOU [Die]>[*Yes] HELL BELOW US>ABOVE US ONLY [Spam]>IMAGINE ALL THE [Light Ners]>LIVIN FOR [3 payments of $9.99]>AH
>>738290942'member when Kris waking up for genoslides was the most unnerving thing to wonder about?
>>738291080it was a simpler time
>>738291118how can the jitterbug ending be made underwhelming like all others?even 3's ending is underwhelming since we don't see the bunker right after
>>738290942>remember that the original plan was for 2-5 to release all at onceCan you imagine a timeline where this happenswe're still stuck at Chapter 1 and then we get fucking Spamton, Snowgrave, Mantle, the Knight, the Titan, Gerson, and whatever the fuck comes next all dumped on us at oncewild world that must be
>DT threads always among the fastest threads on the board despite it being almost 2 months of Toby keeping us completely in the darkChapter 5 is gonna fucking break this board, isn't it?
>>738291281what the fuck would even be Mike in such a situation?
>>738290435>Jackenstein's maze only shows 5 bossesKingQueenKnightBishopFlowerSwordThat's six, anon
>>738291309yes, but if suselle is confirmed? this board will never recover
>>738291320who the fuck is the bishopor the sword for that matter
>>738291185i wouldn't call it underwhelming, i think it was a deliberate cool downthe big climax of the chapter was the titan, and then susie learning how the prophecy ends the remaining minutes of the chapter are dedicated to kris and susie wandering around town at night, hardly saying a word to each other
>>738291356>bishoppeople assume it is the titan>swordfuture boss probably
>>738282395I'm playing it anywaysoh boy
>>738291318The little green guy probably doesn't even exist in this scenario and we just see the giant microphone in the secret bonus zone in TV World.
>>738291309>Chapter 5 is gonna fucking break this board, isn't it?Do yourself a favor and not open the spoiler image. It's an actual spoiler of Chapter 5.
>>738252869literally all your text disgusts me
>>738291356>who the fuck is the bishopThe TitanIt's a bit ironic since "towers" are usually identified with Rooks, but it makes sense when you remember that the standard Bishop has a cut on its face>or the sword for that matterCarol.
>>738291484>OH MY HECCIN SCIENCE THE SHIPSLOP WILL BE LE HECCIN REAL!!! do you faggots care about anything other than shipping teenage furshit. Like I don't know... getting hyped over Susie discovering Kris is working for the Knight? Or the implications of Chapter 5 possibly having the Roaring? Or the implication of the mirror monster in Chapter 3 Sword Route having a black deer as its sprite that only appears if you delete a variable called Toriel? How come you don't find THIS interesting?!
>>738291363by underwhelming I mean>OMG kris will genoslide>it was just a pire>OMG kris is the knight>he isn't>OMG bunker>nopeClosest thing to a cliffhanger is Carol's message on the weird route. What now?
>>738291576Hey, don't talk to me, I lost faith in the romance of this game since 2021. But shipping shit has coped and endured stronger and longer than the actual deep lore. No one bothers to try to piece together Gaster anymore like how we did with Jevil and Spamton's times.
>>738291576>do you faggots care about anything other than shippingno, they don't. these threads are a prison and love triangles are the shackles that bind us.
>>738291679>No one bothers toThis happens all the fucking time. The "green and in-between" shit was just a few months ago.
>>738291587we wait for the festival
>>738291465>"Chris"'s house is empty and in disrepair, rotten food piling up in the trash, water won't run>half the town is fucked up, closed homes and stores>NPC complains the town gets worse every day, says she thought they could have "moved on" as a community but no>pic relatedso it's like that huh
>>738291680I keep coming back here because I like discussing the lore and themes and conflicts and Toby's intentions going forward. The shipfags are tolerable but the magic is really in the crackpot theorymancy and shitposting
>>738291470honestly I'd be alright with such a scenario, though these fuckers have grown on me
>>738291746What the fuck actually happened, I thought it was just a bad accident but this seems more like a mass death event.
>>738291946ohthat's what
only ship i care about is the vessel (me) raping the knight before stealing her cool demon soul thing and gaining all of her powers
I'll be playing Sea of Sorrow and having fun while you guys are WAITING
>>738292224wild that silksong actually released and deltarune is still halfway done
>>738292224Why are indie games trying to get me to have sex with bugs?
>>738292296The weird thing with Silksong is that they had a lot of progress done when they did that first trailer, they showed a substantial amount of the game and some cut content
>>738292296From Hollow Knight to Silksong it was 8 years, or 6 years after SS's announcement. Free extra content DLC is coming about a year after release.From Undertale to Deltarune chapters 3+4 it was 10 years, or 7 years after announcement. The game is still not finished.
>>738292356it's hip to fuck bees and spiders and moths and
