Keyboardfags can't refute this
>>738251391>B-b-but MUH HALL EFFECT KEYS!!!!!
>sarrr I am the brahmin chad of 4chan you are the dalit from reddit
You gonna play EU4 with a keyboard, retard?
>>738251534>used the wrong word
>ADADADADADADADADconsoletwerps can't comprehend this
That NPC/Robot must've really wiped the floor with you to make this thread
>>738251534Yes bitch I fuck you
>>738251391ok now compare stick with mouse
>>738251605Holy soulless. Way to prove OP right
>>738251391Look, I love controllers. But after playing shooters with Mouse and KB, I honestly cannot go back. The precision with a mouse is just to fucking good to the point I can ignore controller movement.
>>738251641If you can't read it's a comparison of movement in games. A mouse is even worse for movement than a kb.
>>738251391>I depicted myself as a giga and you as the normie therefore I'm superiorxitter NPC mentality
>>738251620Meanwhile in reality KBMtroons are always crying about controllerKINGS
>>738251765>in actual reality, consoles ban players using things like cronus because using mouse and keyboard against controller players is unfair. >controller players also have their own separate servers so they don't get farmed
>>738251391We need a keyboard that has a stick for walking and driving while you still aim with your mouse. When I play GTA, I use a controller when using vehicles, and when I exit them, I swiftly switch to keyboard and mouse.
>>738251391>can instantly change directionGet fucked analogue fag
>>738251726So how many games do you play where movement is the only input for the game?
>>738251391There's no benefit to granular movement. Full speed or stealth speed are the only things needed, which is binary.
>>738251696stick to your moviegames, timmy
>>738251859I thought I was the only one.
>>738251843This hasn’t been true for like 15 years bwo. Now the controller players farm kbm players because devs know which side their bread is buttered on and they crank up the aim assist.
>>738251892"How does this affect the gameplay" hylic
*scrolls using the scroll wheel to control how fast his character is moving*
>>738251975>Now the controller players fa-AAAAAAACK!
>>738251892>There's no benefit to granular movement.There was back in the day. Nowadays everything is made for retards, so expecting anyone to be able to handle complex movement is expecting too much.
>>738251391you know mouse movement is granular right?
Keyboards make you dedicate 4 fingers to movement. A controller makes you dedicate 1 thumb to a stick. It's insane how much more efficient the controller is.
>>738251391Gamepads are the single biggest reason why (atleast triple A) games have stagnated, mechanics wiseYou enjoy the goyslop and ask for more
>>738252571You will only ever use two of those buttons at the same time. Pressing three or four movement keys at the same time makes no sense.
>>738252571well you have to spend 3 fingers per hand just to hold the controller so...
>>738252571that absolutely sounds like something an incredibly obese slob would say
>>738252581PC only games are just MMOs and FPSs. Controllers brought games forward and you haven't played Ape Escape 1 if you don't believe me.
>>738251898>posts a dead game (and genre) that not even PCjeets playKEK
My keyboard doesn't drift, so I win
>>738251391The utility of the analog thumbstick begins and ends with walking in a circle. There just isn't enough resolution to do anything other than walk slowly.If you wanted to argue for granularity it would have been better to use a throttle or flightstick that actually has a large range of motion, not some ewaste children's toy.>>738252571Controllers make you dedicate 4 fingers just to holding it and doing literally nothing.
>>738251391splinter cell chaos theory put move speed on scroll wheel and it worked pretty well for such a condensed game.
>>738251534No, steam controller... when I get one
>>738251391Mouse wheel.You are now thoroughly refuted.
>>738252668the games influence lives on in counter strike which is the most popular fps game ever made and is still played by millions every day. again, your movie games are waiting for you. go back.
>>738253037cs is a downgrade from quake in every aspect, it's so watered down it's not even funny
>>738252659Most games these days use the 4-face button system for skills and etc. and you haven't played any modern game if you don't believe me.
>>738251641You mean pad/ gyro or flickstick and gyro??Actually its pretty fucking onpar, mouse still has slightly better stability and accuracy, but gyro is far more reactive and quick, no friction or limited desk space >>738251863Is this even a factor when almost any game has a delay between movements to stimulate momentum anyway? Beyond that ffs that's a fringe af delay for sticks, and dpad is still better.>>738251871It doesn't matter. Movement IS objectively better for basically all cases, besides where dpad is>>738252581Only because MOST gamepads have stagnated. If sc 2 was standard for 20 years, the world would be entirely different.>>738252634New controllers have under buttons so these aren't wasted, sc has grip sense too.>>738253257I'm not a cs dude either, but its more about semi realistic gunplay and movement than quake
>>738251391Nothing good comes out of emulating real life in video games. The peak of video game control is an arcade stick with binary microswitches.
>I need to waaalk!!!>I need immersion!!1>I need fuuun!!Entitled people are funny
Baffling there are adults where their main hobby is video games and they still play primarily on console. It's like communicating with toddlers.
>>738251859This, even after changing bindings flying helicopters with kbm is near impossible, especially in 5
That's to realistic animation slop it doesn't matter whether the input is binary or analog. Your character will still move sluggish and smooth.
>>738251391Mouse is so much stronger of an analog system that it genuinely becomes advantageous to be able to throw yourself in any 8 way direction instantly because the mouse analog is free to move to the extent that it can just handle any degree of movement you need to shift WASD into the proper direction instantaneously
>>738251391My 3ds' circular pad has stopped registering small movements. Can't play monhun big guy anymore.
>>738253624Its not about console, but form factor.A regular entirely unmodified xbone controller sucks for precision of aim, options, but has FAR better movement through joystick and comfort. Kbm has far better precision of aim and options, but takes 3 fucking fingers to control movement far lesd precision, and isn't as comfy.Steam controller is best of both worlds.>>738253780So do you do one mouse for wasd, and another for aim?I know you use it for aim, but gyro allows both to basically be precise
>>738251391>1 year to turn the camera
>>738252668I literally play Q3 on full servers every day, cope harder zoomoid
>>738251391>a challenger appears
>>738254097>ww-we uncs play our game together on the weekends you... you fucking zoomer!That sure showed the entire normalcattle population that is actively making companies like Sony or Nintendo bazzilions of dollars.
>>738254175Admittedly that looks cool, but feels a little TOO extra DESU.
>>738254175That's old news
>L3 to run>analog breaks
>>738251391Mausu, mausu, pasokon mausu
>>738253993You can choose to over-complicate this issue like you're doing, or you can choose which form factor is better for the game you're about to play and just use that. The fact you're over-complicating it tells me you're horrible at video games.
>>738254532>you can choose which form factor is better for the game you're about to play and just use thatSTEAM CONTROLLER, I CHOOSE YOU!!!
>>738254267Move that goalpost you little twink fuccboi
>>738255590>Can't refute the pointKekaroooo
>>738254532>you're horrible at video gamesWouldn't it be the opposite if one wants more precision and control?? Surely someone actually shitty wouldn't even appreciate the difference?
>>738251391If you aren't moving at full speed at all times you didn't beat the game
>>738251391I have a TMR keyboard and a TMR controller.I win.
>>738251391I liked playing dark souls and alike better with keyboard and mouseI only use a controller to play car games
>>738253376>when almost any game has a delay between movements to stimulate momentumThis is the outcome of consoles already having dogshit input latency, any game worth playing isn't like this. A dpad is also still slower for that than dedicated fingers.
>>738251391>controller fags are nonbinary
>>738255714Someone who isn't shit at video games would instantly know which form factor would be better suited for the game. It wouldn't even be a discussion in their head.
>>738256384>>controller fags are nonbinary
>>738256352No, not what I'm talking about. Tf2 for example, as scout, you swap directions, you actually SLOW DOWN first, stop, then go the other direction. This takes a small amount of time.As for dpads being slower its still gold standard for platformers like super meat boy soooo....i don't think this edge case is REALLY that important.>>738256541And I was quick to decide.>>738254829
>>738251391PC gamers have better finger game, my gf isn't complaining. The only time I ever thought "GEE, I WISH I HAD GRANULAR MOVEMENT RN!" was this one time in cod when I wanted to climb up a ladder quietly.
>>738256959>Translation : I'm incapable of being sensual. Either I'm not touching her or I'm mashing my fingers in like I'm checking s vending machine for quarters
>>738251696Right on what? You can't do ADADADA on analog.
>>738257853I mean, yea you can, and dpad is so sickeningly close its not much of a comparison... and are you really talking about mashing left and right to fucking wiggle in place at high frequency?? If you do that fast enough you just jiggle in place.
>>738251391
>>738258279You can't press left and right simultaneously on a dpad.
>>738251534How do you walk forward slowly in that game? Is it alt? Ctrl? Whatever it is it's wayy easier to have a control stick to use for slow walking
>>738251391they are making analog keyboards now
>>738256860>dpads being slower its still gold standard for platformers like super meat boylmao, are you retarded?
>>738258452Playing EU4 with a controller sounds awful
>>738258307That genuinely looks better than the Steam pad, more comfortable, holds in a single position, no fighting for space between pads and sticks, larger trackpad surface
>>738255667You sound like le unc
>>738260584It SOUNDS like a challange
>>738251391It does not feel like rubbing a nipple
>>738262639How would you know? Have you ever touched a nipple?
>>738265014Yes dork, women's nipples are not like that
>>738251391You move with W + mouse, not with WASD. Dumb.
>>738260584>>738262559It works acceptably well with those steam deck/controller touchpads.
>>738251726I wonder if monkeys like you actually don't know how movement with mouse and keyboard works.
that's why i have a controller. is what i would say if i played vidya>>738251391this is how i know you're an absolute trooned out fag jerking it on a console
>>738266352How do you aim while moving, then?
>>738251391>I FORGOT TO TELL THEM ABOUT MOUSE, HEHEHEHE I AM SO DEVILISH
You used a wojak you lost whatever argument you were trying to make from the start.
I can't even remember when the last time how much you pushed the analog stick mattered. It was only a gimmick used in N64 games to sneak around. It also also shit, holding a button to walk/run is way better and easier to use.
>>738251761lol
i havent touched a controller in 16 years. What are those gyro controllers like?
>>738271552Digital input is a must for 2d games.
>>738251391As a l33t gaymer that has actually won cash moneys doing it with both I have to say I prefer controller for single player games 100% of the time but they're so shit quality now I'd never use them competitively. Even the expensive ones have so much stick drift they make the deadzones humongous to hide the fact making similar precision to a mouse an impossibility.
