What went so wrong?
Poor billion dollar corporation :(
>>738255984Two words: Tetsuya Nomura.
Making a deal with Sony was clearly a bad call, they couldn't wait for it to be over and now part 3 will be on everything day 1.
>>738255984they're boring lame and gay
>>738255984The suits are demented and expect sales from their peak while the IP has floundered since 13 at the latest
>>738255984Only actual uncs care about FF and they managed to piss them off.
>>738255984Racist anime girl larpers didn't buy it because they had lgbt and brown people.
>>738255984Nobody actually likes watching 500 hours of cutscenes and doing needlessly drawn out but otherwise simple and on rails side quests. I think the combat system/party design of Rebirth is some of the best they've ever done but nobody has the patience to fully engage with it because you spend so much time listening to Chudley be unfunny and moving around vacuum cleaners
>>73825598416 has some of the worst writing known to man, and rebirth had too much boring ass side content
nigga nothing ever meets squeenix sales expectations, they want 50 million sold of everything
DOES IT READ FFXVII ON ONE OF THE TRACKS IN THE PHOTO POSTED BY SOKEN, OR AM I TRIPPING?https://x.com/sokensquareenix/status/2051672975502610554
>>738257158Uh huh
>>738255984Making it a temporary ps5 exclusive was catastrophic for these games, you can't sell your games on a platform that nobody but third worlders own, unless that game is called Fifa, but thats not the case here. Thankfully they learned their lesson and already confirmed that the third entry in the 7 remake trilogy is gonna be developed with PC first in mind
>>738256165wasn't involved in 16, I know this is the only name normies know but yeah
>>738255984Turned the remake into fan fiction and depended too hard on the Playstation audience for sales despite the current PS audience basically being the old Xbox audience of ball & gun gamers.
>>73825598416 wasn't an rpg and was meant to appeal to zoomers who don't give a single shit about FF.Remake pissed off their core audience of 30+ nostalgia dads and none of them returned for Rebirth.
They are allergic to just making 4 niggers in a row gameplay and strive to have high graphical fidelity at the detriment of everything else.
>>738255984I'm not paying for linear corridor simulatorslazy fucks
>>738255984horrible mismanagement. they're more focused on chasing the latest trend, they don't give a shit if it ends up being completely at odds with the game/series they're trying to base everything off of. do this for years upon years and a lot of people are going to stop giving you the benefit of the doubt.
>>738257489This retard has infested this company so long that his design philosophy has been engrained into the heart of the company
>>738257447Yeah I agree, PS5 exclusivity for no reason fucking killed the games.
I liked Remake/Rebirth, they were fun, even intense at times and I want to play the last part, happy it will be day 1 on PC (probably), the only problem of Rebirth was the fucking open world ubishit sections filled with slop side content, I've never played Assassin's Creed or Far Cry but this is exactly how I imagine them. 16 was complete dogshit though.
>>738255984No turnBASED, no buy like always.
>>738255984Anybody that says XVI failed because it wasn't a 4 guys in a row rpg is bullshitting youFinal Fantasy's core identity was never 4 guys in a row like some idiots try to claim, fans always knew from the get go that Final Fantasy was always about EXPERIMENTATION, that was always what the series was about, Final Fantasy is absolutely not the type of franchise to stick with 4 guys in a row combat forever and get comfy with that spot, yes XVI failed, but they kept true to their core premise of experimenting and they will experiment something different with the next entry
>>738255984Gotta line them niggas up an make em take turns if you want profit.
>>738258057unc combat
>>738258071A long game like Final Fantasy, with a world to explore, having DMC combat sounds like a fucking dream on paper and it would have been the best thing ever during the PS2 era. I think the game being extremely repetitive, the story falling of a cliff in the second half and the game just being linear as fuck was what ruined it. The cooldown abilities didn't help I guess, I don't know where did they get that from.
>>738258176>>738258057>all of the extremely slow walking segments of Rebirth>the repetitive open world content>AND the mindless FF7 combat where you just buff and select your strongest attack/spellWould probably be the worst game you could make. The combat system is one of the few things the remakes have going for them.
>>738255984Simple. Remake was ass and killed hype for XVI.XVI was ass and killed hype for Rebirth.Rebirth was ass and negative word of mouth finished it off.
>>738255984FFXVI outsold Redditbirth 2x over btw
>>738258445>Rebirth was assWhere does this delusion come from? The game is universally loved except for /v/. It doesn't matter if you think it sucks objectively, because people clearly liked it.
>>738255984That's what happens when you release your games as ps5 exclusives. Playstation owners do not play gamesI'm glad square enix understood that dicksucking sony does not pay off and now release their games as multiplats
>>738258535Yup, same with FFXVI.They were both great games.
>>738258535Anyone can review on metacritic. If you look at systems that need a purchase to reviews it's among the bottom FF games.
>>738258508Damn they sold 3 copies amazing stuff
>>738258057Even after all the shilling and "lel best game ever!!!?", E33 could on muster 8 million in sales in 1 year. Something like RE9 did that in 2 weeks. If you're wanting 15 million+, these games just can't do it.
Square's problem is their games predominantly rely on the writing and their writing is absolute dogshit. They're acting like the low standards of the 90s is still a thing. This is post Bioshock and The Last of Us. Modern gamers expect much, much better writing than dated anime bullshit if you want to be a big player. Otherwise they should do what most makers of anime bullshit do and keep the budget really small because nobody is going to buy it except a very small number of retard weebs.
>>738258849I don't even understand how RE is so popular. I had zero interest in picking up 9.
>>738258761Let me guess, they're all whining about performance problems, like every poorly rated game on Steam.
>>738255984jrpgs are so fucking boring, dialogue simulator + abuse leveling mechanics grinding the same fights over and over, menu menu damage spell menu menu damage spell menu menu damage spell menu menu healing spell OH MY GOD IM HAVING SO MUCH FUN!
>>738258997We need FF to incorporate guns and basketballs to appeal to people like you
>>738257158uh anon?
>>7382559847Rebirth suffers from exclusivity and overblown expectations, plus Nomura Nomura'ing all over the goddamn plot with time jannies and other shitFF16 is it's own mess and boils down to gameplay. It's action combat is not engaging, it's simply spamming abilities on cooldowns. It lacked the party/character interplay dynamics people wanted, as well as any strategic element. They made it too shallow so that any retard could play it, a continuation of the hack job they did on FFXV>>738258997i'm lazy but just imagine i'm posting the ouiaboo frpg and all it's awards at you>>738259059>We need FF to incorporate guns and basketballs to appeal to people like youFFX already did that
>>738256165That and forcing him to do other shit after FF13 flopped instead of releasing FFvs13 (sorry, sorry: "Final Fantasy '15'"/versus 13) after a decade of development hell.With how cobbled together versus 13 was, it's no surprise Yoshi-P's "16" (15) couldn't save the franchise after 13 steered it straight into an iceberg and then 20 coastal villages.
>>738258969Nah. They're saying it's bloated and too much Chadley.It's also among the bottom on PSN so it's not performance issues.
>>738258057This guy gets it.
>>738257447>>738257927It was the least of their problems. Changing and telling a single game's story over 8 years and through three games is what killed it. Last I checked they never even officially revealed how much rebirth sold. Even XVI got an official sales number released. The dropoff from remake must have been drastic
Adding a ton of niggers and splitting a remake/re-imagining/whatever the fuck they are doing into three pieces sure didn't help. They saw the absolute cult status FF7 had and they got too greedy. Then E33 completely mogged them too
>>738255984XVI had 2 faggots kissing in an unskipable cutscene and Nomura, not to be outdone, made every other NPC a nigger who stands around yapping about how gay they are.
>>738255984When was the last even remotely noteworthy FF protagonist? Was it Lightning?It was okay to have mid entries in a franchise back when the entries came out every 2 years. There were 7 years between 13 and 15 (Skipping 14 because not a mainline entry), and then another 6 years between 15 and 16.And nobody cared about either of them. That's not the first time that's happened in the franchise, but it didn't take somebody's entire childhood to get out of the slump. This is an issue that SE has directly mentioned as well.
>>738259583Jack Garland
>>738256267I love how every fucking thread ignores this point, but sure keep spamming this thread once a week you fucking retard OP
>>738255984don't you retards get tired? Have been on this shit for 2 years now. It's time to stop.
>>738260264Wasn't an issue for Stellar Blade.
>>738258535Because tons of people tapped out after Part 1, leaving only slopfans. What value is there in a slightly increased user score when the sales completely tanked? Even the company bitterly admits this; why are you still trying to die on this abandoned hill?
>>738260334Stellar Blade didn't have a year of negative word of mouth coming into its PC launch.
>>738260378same thing with the FFXIII trilogy. the rating got better as sales went down because each release kept filtering out anyone with taste.
>>738260327we like Final Fantasy
>>738259583>When was the last even remotely noteworthy FF protagonist?Lightning, but purely because of the memes.Noctis was actually a good protagonist trapped in a terrible game.I'd say the last good protagonist from a good FF game was Tidus in FFX
>>738258761>>738260378Sad but true.Redditbirth is a bottom 5 Final Fantasy.
>>738255984The FF audience isn’t there anymore, it’s that simple
>>738258891>Bioshock>Last of Us>good writingJust because FF's writing is retarded doesn't make these any better.
>>738255984they started banning tifa doujins, porn is the only thing keeping final fantasy relevant its a declining franchise whose only relevance in the modern day is having an mmo named after it that's a spinoff.
>>738260327buddy, the only remaining ff fans are used to holding out for 6+ years for each mainline game. 2 years is nothing.
FF is an old person's franchise. The only people still buying are people already invested in FF, it is gaining zero new fans.
Too much budget for something that looks and plays, and tells a story worse than E33
>>738261464why are you normies so obsessed with e33 anyway?
>>738260264Those game's sales were hurt by being PS5 only for a while. There's more reasons why, even after coming out on PC, they didn't meet sales expectations.
>>738261557>normiesHmmm
>>738255984Bad games flop. Simple as.
>>738255984For 16, they released a character action game at the wrong time since we were at the peak of souls slop hype, it would be better received today. Of course the very slow cutscenes and side quests didn't help, alongside them not going all the way with it for fears normies who mash button "attack" in jrpgs ended up being challenged.For FF7, all the "Nomura" shit whether it was Nomura or not.
>>738255984>"We want ff7 turn based rpg with modern graphics">"Ok here is a shitty action game with a bad combat system and atb shoved in">"Oh.....ok....well at least is one full game">"Whats that? A trilogy? Ok here is part 1. Part 2 and 3 require you to buy a new console. Also we heard you, so we made it console exclusive for a couple of years">"Man fuck this">"No no wait come back look, final fantasy 16">"Ok cool a new game with new characters?">"Yes, one character">"Oh thats gonna be hard to make a FF rpg game">"We heard you, so we made it devil may cry">"Oh cool">"Your have skills but we added mmo cooldowns...you like ff14 right?">Sales did not meet expectations
>>738257428Dragon Quest exceeded their expectations? It's fucking Dragon Quest. Japs love that shit.
>>738260378Because autists are nerds who think critic scores matter more than profits. They're stupid.
>>738255984You know why games like FF aren't selling? It's because we're old. You think zoomies and alphas have the attention span to read shit? To listen to dialogue? To put together ideas and plot points? Hell no. So it doesn't matter how much Square water down their games to try and capture a new audience, because they can literally never make these games dumb enough to appeal to the newer generation.Zoomies and alphas need to be herded like boomers at casinos. They need constant bright lights and noises. They need to feel like they won every 3 minutes, or their brain might come dangerously close to having enough downtime to compose a thought.
>>738257428the good news is that all the following releases of Dragon Quest remasters all flopped. Showing Dragon Quest 3 remaster was bought on hype and being the first remastrer.People noticed the woke localization and censorship then woke up to it (pun intended), with the following releases flopping. VII Reimagined even had a bigger budget and they re-did all the artstyle to 3D bobble-head pixar type. . . like the game was going to be a huge hit. They're doubling down on the wokeshit for their next release.
>>738255984>CBU3 tries to make an action RPG FF>Execs demand they pull back on the RPG mechanics because they need to cater to retards like XV did>Gameplay becomes stale and repetitive with every fight being handled the same>SE goes to make Rebirth>They don't give a fuck about mechanics because they think having "VII" in the title will make it sell like hotcakes>Except they also go and fuck up the part where it's a remake and bring back le spooky time ghosts>Gameplay is fine but the story is a borrent dogshit, mostly because VII's story was already piss weak and it was carried by being babby's first Playstation RPG, which it no longer gets to say.
>>738255984PS5 Exclusivity first and foremost. The JRPG weeb demographic that was predominantly on PlayStation 15+ years ago have long since moved on to Steam or Switch as their platform of choice, while the PlayStation is seen as the normalfag platform of choice that collects dust in an entertainment center seeing only very mild use for watching movies or playing a little bit of Fortnite or Madden or FIFA or CoD.There are several factors that informed this transition, including but not limited to:>bridges burned with weebs by Snoy California over lackluster PS Vita support in the West and censorship of various niche Japanese games while other platforms were unaffected>Snoy hardware generally too expensive, most weeb fans aren't interested in cutting edge visuals and a console like the Switch could fulfill their needs while being substantially less expensive than a PS5>Many Japanese games getting PC ports, Steam sales and Steam Deck have also won over a niche of fans who flocked to it after the Vita never got an official successorWith FFXVI's case, I think FF fans are burnt-out on action slop and did not care for the grimdark Game of Thrones/Witcher M-rated tone when many other games are already like that, and it was later BTFO in almost every way by Baldur's Gate 3 and especially Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 which is arguably the game FFXVI should have been.With FFVIIR's case, Square just waited too fucking long to capitalize on FFVII's popularity. Most fans who grew up with FFVII have either outgrown become burnt-out with video games, moved away from the PlayStation ecosystem for one of the reasons mentioned above, or simply got tired of waiting after 15+ years and stopped caring or were alienated by the shift in direction the story took and the episodic release format.
>>738255984Timed exclusive on a console who's primary demographic isn't into JRPGs anymore.
I still haven't beaten both FF16 and FF7 Rebirth. They've just been sitting in my drives while I play other actual JRPGs.
>>738256812This pretty much sums it up. Square seems to think it's still the old era from like 20+ years ago when the name final fantasy alone would sell games. Youngsters these days don't give a shit about FF and the people still playing are like 35+ and are sick of the games being shit
It'ssquare enix, they have never hit their financial targets ever
Anyone blaming PS5 exclusivity is retarded. The fact of the matter is that FF hasn't had a must-play genre defining entry since X
>>738255984at least strangers of paradise did well
>>738265112Being action is the least of the problems with XVI. The game is just trash in every aspect.
>>738255984As shit as XVI was, it at least got a sales announcement and is no longer draining money from SE.Rebirth flopped and wiped all of Remakes profits out and they still have to finish part 3 on negative budget when they know it won't even sell 2 million copies.
>>738265474The story is also a bland and boring wet fart that fails at "subverting" the revenge quest power fantasy by means of contrivance. Strange of Paradise is goofy and hard to take seriously but I was more invested in its story because at least it's fun and Jack is a likeable main character simply for how blunt and abrasive he is compared to other FF protags.
>>738258849E33 selling more than a 40 year old franchise game is pretty absurd desu
>>738265581FFXVI is the best Final Fantasy game in at least 19 years
>>738265474Is this the first time someone posted something stupid and worthless on Twitter?The crumb of something kind of useful is that this won't appeal much to Final Fantasy fans because it's not a turn based RPG. It's not Dark Souls either or Minecraft or whatever the fuck someone desperate to cash in on popular video game trends would copy. It's an action game kind of like Devil May Cry 3, but not exactly and even that series stepped away from it sometime in the last 20 years. Cooldown abilities are a big part of combat because FF has a popular MMO worked on by a lot of the same people, and there's enemy stagger bars and a bunch of other shit that would be more at home in a Final Fantasy game than Devil May Cry. At no point does he actually comment on whether the combat is good or not. He very briefly touches on the story to complain that some parts are low stakes. He doesn't talk about what anyone obviously should go over when commenting on a story, like whether the overall plot is compelling or how the characters are.This is like an example you'd show to middle schoolers so they can see how not to write their opinions.
>>738266201if normiewebz hates it,it probably is a misunderstood masterpiece
>>738265474Based
>>738256165Tetsuya Nomura is the only sane person left in Square. It's Nojima and Kitase who went pants on head retarded with 7R
>>738266395Sebby is right about Rebirth though
I've been a Final Fantasy fan since the NES days and played VII when it was first released.The beauty of that game was the story it told and how it expanded what we thought was possible with video games. The remakes chopped that story up into three extremely bloated games over 6 years. It butchered the original story unnecessarily and added so much busy-work crap that people got sick of it.We wanted a FFVII remake. They should have just remade the original game as ONE single game. Instead the bean counters at Square made the same mistake they did when the Hobbit was turned into 3 movies. Greedy bastards, all of them.
>>738255984Snoys don’t buy video games
>>738266396Lol
>>738266396Expedition 33 feels more FF than FFXVI does and even features a protag voiced by Ben Starr.
>>738266201Technical mechanics don't matter if the gameplay loop is fundamentally trash.You can’t defend the story while ignoring the pacing, forcing players into MMO-style fetch quests for garlic in a 'mature' epic is objectively bad narrative design. It’s not a middle school opinion to point out that XVI trades the soul of the franchise for a shallow action-movie spectacle that forgets it’s supposed to be an RPG.
muh sales, muh moneyit doesn't matter, part 3 is coming anywaythey'll never get the old success back because gen z doesn't buy singleplayer games, and especially not when the series is that old.
>>738255984way too much loss of character control, piss easy baby/woman-tier gameplay, ubislop open world, browns and gays everywhere, godawful voice acting, ect ectThe voice acting in particular blows my mind that some of you retards actually like it
>>738266612Other than the story being some shitty Tactics Advance lark while XVI being a proper ass bringer of chaos throwing the crystals into the void bullshit proper Final Fantasy story.
>>738255984>What went so wrongSony
>>738265997It's a true statement. But it also isn't a flex.
>>738257186yoooooooo are you telling me that they will eventually make a new final fantasy game? stop the fucking presses!!!!
>>738266787>provides a console that was at 80m sold at the time of rebirths release>it still sold badlynah it was always square enix own fault, they lost IP strength by releasing stinker after stinker with 13 to 15
>>738266632>the gameplay loopWeird how he also didn't talk about the gameplay loop at all. Kind of like he doesn't know how to articulate a point.
>>738265474Also Ultima is the worst, most boring villain in FF history.
>makes more than enough to cover its cost of production and still have millions of dollars in profit>still not good enoughSometimes i kinda get those "eat the rich" leftists.Shareholders need to hang
Something tells me the next final fantasy is going to be turn based.Just a guess
>boomers want a remake of a turn-based JRPG>make an open world game with all the Ubisoft staples in hopes of getting zoomers onboard>end up pleasing absolutely no one
>>7382654741) Doesn't make it a bad game, just like RE4 wasn't bad. 2) Fair, but this is more of a problem with games being high production and wasting your time in general. You wouldn't complain if these were easily mashed text boxes but people want their VOIVE ACTING anywhere today even though it's making everything a slow paced mess.3) Literal Hollywoodbrain.4) Didn't swear that much in another languages, it's a troonslation problem This is the worst critique of a game I have ever read
>>738265474
The acting in the FF7 Remake series so far is so fucking droll and stupid. These motion capture guys all took training in Kabuki style theatre or Kamen Rider action movements or something. It's like they hired all the same people from the Cal Arts of Japanese motion capture. Once you get a hint of it it ruins everything. It is annoyingly Japanese in the worst ways possible.All of their attempts at interpreting OG FF7 dialogue into 3d motion are worse than what my mind imagined and filled in.The camera work, the fucking breathy grunts, the hang time for reactions, everything.IT FUCKING SUCKS DICK.
>>738257428Huh, guess woke is in style again. Get woke or go broke XD
>>738267031I like him a lot. The fact that he tries to come across as unemotional but half his scenes are seething about Clive derailing his schemes is really fun. It's good to have a classic FF villain, he feels really in touch with the first few games. Worst FF villain is and will always be Seymour.
>>738267496>are worse than what my mind imagined and filled inthats the problem, your brain
>>738267496This. I thought it was a hardware limitations thing or a dub syncing thing at first, but no. They made a creative decision to imitate anime without using anime art style and it hurts to look at.
>>738258939Sounds like a you problem. It's very polished and incredibly replayable. Easy to pick up and play. If you need a challenge you bump up the difficulty.
>>7382672561)RE4 evolved its genre. FF16 just stripped its own identity away.2)Blaming voice acting for the garlic fetch quests is wild. The devs chose to put that filler in.3)Calling a desire for meaningful character arcs Hollywoodbrain is just a cope for dogshit writing and wasted potential.4)If the english script relies on F-bombs for edginess while other versions don't, then the version mosy people are actually playing is poorly written. You're literally making excuses for every flaw mentioned while calling the critique bad. If a game needs this much context to be good, it’s just not a good game.
Should have taken 1 year and just made a direct FF7 sequel in the same style of the old game instead, would have still sold millions with 1/20th of the development cost.
>>738267831who the fuck would play a PS1 game in 2026
>>738267823>4)If the english script relies on F-bombs for edginess while other versions don't, then the version mosy people are actually playing is poorly written.The English script was written first btw. They wanted to pander super hard to the western audience.
>>738267909The million of niggas that played 30 years ago. Wouldn't be on the PS1 of course, but would be released on the PS5/4/PC.
>>738255984Square hasn't made a good game since Square Soft died. That's why all the people who still buy SE games are 30+ year old nostalgia retards.
>>738255984Boomer franchise trying to abandon its core audience to appeal to zoomers who give not a single shit about Final Fantasy.
>>738268184I'm surprised SE hasn't attempted to revive the Parasite Eve franchise yet, especially when the market is crazier about RE games than ever. If any series could make a good RE clone, it would be Parasite Eve. I guess SE just doesn't have the balls to take risks anymore.
>>738266639>muh saleswhy do I never see this attitude when someone is boasting about remake's 7 million "sales"?
7 Remake is going down as one of the most hilarious blunders of its era. It's legitimately impressive that they fucked it up that bad. Remake sold very well then immediately dropped off and I bet completion stats for Remake are very low. I won't look it up but I bet not even half of players got even halfway through it.
>>738256165>Nomura>XVIRetard
>>738268414I get why XVI ended up the way it did. Square tried way too hard to appeal to a new audience, but it backfired and hurt the series' reputation even more than XIII and XV did. If they were that desperate to switch genres, they should've just made it all Soulslike. It worked for SoP and it would've worked for XVI too. Even if the story was still shit at least the gameplay would've been solid. But no, they chased the DMCV crowd, which was already niche to begin with, and now they're paying the heavy price.
>>738268473Licensing issues, so they can't make remakes of the best ones while they don't have the talent or confidence to create even another 3rd Birthday shit game.
>>738268414>Appeal to turn-based boomers until they are all deadImagine being brown and a boomer.
>>738269137I don't agree with your reasoning, there was nothing wrong with square betting on an action rpg to spearhead their new ff game. Soulslike or not, SoP being good wasn't just because of its genre, it had good gameplay and a memorable story, also not an overinflated budget (could have used some more budget though)
>>738255984>timed Sony exclusivity in a post-Sony-relevance world>tonedeaf design (FF16 being a DMC hack n' slash inspired by Game of Thrones, FF7R2 doubling down on a rugpull from shit people actually wanted)>excessive dev budgets
>>738255984We bought the pixel remasters instead.
>>738269428The problem with your logic is that XVI isn't an action RPG, it's just straight-up action. They bet on a genre that's completely opposite to what FF is supposed to be, all while slapping a mainline number on it. Even if it had succeeded, old fans still wouldn't be happy. You can't pull another XIV without actually making a decent game first and winning fans over later.
>>738269640Common turnBASED win
>>738264747These had all its sales on switch tho
>>738255984Too bloated
>>738255984Went woke
>>738269787There's definitely a bunch of RPG mechanics you'd expect to see that weren't in FF16, but it had a few RPG mechanics including "equipping" certain moves at the expense of others. I often used a Lightning Rod build which abilities that would be best used on the lightning rod. It's not exactly Etrian Odyssey, but it focuses on what's equipped more than you'd expect for an action game.
>>738255984They censored best girl's tits. Square enix deserves to crash and burn in hell for this.
>>738255984>>738269696can you faggots kiss already
>>738258071>true to their core premise of experimenting and they will experiment something different with the next entryNot really. If you play 6-12 they are all much more alike than they are different. Never played 13 or MMO's but 15 was a complete betrayal to the series. And 16 kept the betrayal up. I guess final fantasy is a great brand name since you can use it to mean anything now but people who loved the originals can tell how the games are no longer final fantasy.
FF16 felt more like a DMC game than an RPG. You just go an area, do what is essentially the stage, and then move on to the next stage. There's no sense of exploration, journey, or adventure. You just move from one action set piece to the next.
>>738272175Equipment in XVI is about as deep as picking weapons in DMC3 and no one calls that an RPG. You don't really need a ton of mechanics to qualify as an RPG, but XVI is way way way below the bare minimum and I'm definitely not the only one who thinks so.
>>738255984They have a mole intentionally making bad games to drive stock prices doen so they could be taken over. It's the only excuse for why they suck so hard.
>>738272668Literal equipment like swords and armor is massively undercooked and basically seems like attack and defense that you should have had already. Equipping abilities, or setting them or whatever, changes how fights play out, a bit like equipping materia or Jobs.
Leaned too hard into the anime kawaii uguu audience with ayyyy ass looking character models that don't appeal to general audience. They tried to reverse and go more realism in 16 but that flopped too cause all the characters were ugly. SE is simply out of touch.
>>738272078uh oh triggered :(
>>738272078This.
>>738272078>>738273829
>>738255984Funal fantasy 15 is the only good one. Thry should've done enough guys adventure through an open world. Meeting chick's, finding gems and kicking ass.
>>738275292More guys adventuring*
>>738255984They've done this multiple times.>Hitman Absolution is a hitIt failed to meet sales expectations>Tomb Raider remake sells like crazyIt failed to meet expectations.At this point they are just a perpetually disappointed Asian parent
>>738255984Man you LOVE talking about square Enix
>>738272078DQ3 remake was woke and didn't flop. Maybe XVI and Rebirth were just bad games like all the Steam reviews say >>738258761
If tomorrow the new Final Fantasy was announced I wouldn't know what to expect except for cinematic JRPG slop with a mid story. I think the remake was in a long while where people felt different and actually had expectations and then they stretched a 3 hour game section into 30 hours.
>>738255984It's so bad they came crawling back to Nintendo to beg for a measly 20k sales KEK
