Go woke go broke
>>738269696>What if Persona, but with no dating system that half of Persona's engagement depends on?Gee I wonder.
>>738269696The demo needed to be shorter and have the cool shit up front. Also CHARACTER CREATOR option, the casuals eat that shit up like it's cookie dough.
>>738269696Wasn't this game absolutely everywhere how did it fall short?
>>738269696fake article. I hate you /v/. 4chan is completely driven by the 1% most insane posters.
>>738269696Haven't played it yet, but I'll let you know after I play through Metaphor Royal, or whatever the enhanced version of the game will be called.
I wasn't going to pay 70 for it, that's all.
>>738269907>howThe gameplay doesn't appeal to zoomers and millenials.
>>738269696i dont buy anime artstyle games. Gooks clearly have the skills to make beautiful games, stop relying on that trash style.
I loved it they finally fixed the social link autism and ranked them up every time, easiest 100% of any Atlus game.
I was hyped until gameplay was revealed to be persona slop. and the calendar is hilariously lenient and I hate it.
>>738269696Kek post link so I can read it.
>>738269696Didn't this sell 1 million copies in the first day or two?
>>738269990It's not getting one, Sega and Atlus realized that definitive editions hurt sales of the first version.
>>738269871Not just casuals. I'm tired of playing as mousey twinks in jrpgs. I'm getting nostalgic for spikey haired protagonists. And I know half the audience wants to play as women. Character creators should be the future. Also what >>738269864 said. That or they need to scale back production costs if they want to keep doing their niche side projects.
I remember playing the demo, and you just spam one skill over and over.
I fell for the /v/ propaganda about the whole diverse cast and the power of friendship during a time where I hate immigrants (and still do).I also gave SMTV a chance and it was piss easy, the story may as well not exist given how little I cared about the characters, and the fusion system ultimately means you're benching favorites for power. So I assume anyone saying Atlus games are hard are probably talking about the old ones and not the modern ones.
>>738270351Yeah right I'm not getting tricked again.
>>738270227Sadly It's just an edit of https://www.ign.com/articles/final-fantasy-7-rebirth-final-fantasy-16-and-foamstars-all-failed-to-meet-square-enixs-expectations
>>738269696Nothing.
>>738269696Not enough libshit preaching.
>>738270429Never played the demo but in the real game you change classes based on the enemies weaknesses in the dungeon you're at.
>let's make Persona>but without anything a regular Persona fan like>let's make every enemy garbage looking, because we're too shit at emulating the "real angel form" style and let's call them humans for fun>let's make the UI a nightmare, because we want to emulate P5 again> Remember how Final Fantasy fell off? let's do the exact same thing: let's push for graphics but fuck up the lightning and shadows. Remember memorable songs? let's replace everything with generic choirs>let's make the most basic story imaginable, let's see, you are the resistance, you are good-natured, the rich are evil, but in the end you're actually the chosen one and you back one of the most powerful aristocratic families in the world. This won't disjoint the themes>the bad guy? he's too cool, and he's right, let's make him cartoon-tier evil for no reasonWhat the fuck were they thinking
>>738269907Persona is a niche franchise for weebs and this, although a good game gameplay wise, wasn't anything resembling a regular persona game people wanted to play, plus, people are already used to fatlus releasing an unfinished game and 3 years after that release the improved gold edition, so lots of people just wait for that so they don't have to double dip on the same game.
>>738269696I still haven't played it because I was waiting for the enhanced re-release with more social links, extra dungeons, all that extra shit all at a reduced price.They fooled me with Person 3 and I'm still not over it.>oh hey remember that game you just bought? Well here it is again, a year later, with more stuff all at a reduced price!I'm never letting them trick me like that again. I didn't buy Persona 4 until Golden, and I didn't buy Persona 5 until Royal. And I'm not buying Metaphor until Re-Refantazio
>>738270696OP image seems to be bullshit, but I'll always be skeptical of company representatives bragging about high sales until they attempt to milk the IP further. Once they announce a Metaphor Royal or Metaphor Dancing all Night, I'll know it did well.
>>738270696>>738269696Both of these can be true at the same time, just saiyan.
>>738271064>wasn't anything resembling a regular persona game90% of it resembles a Persona game except you're not in modern day Tokyo and it has a job system instead of capturing Persona pokemon.
>>738269696no waifu no buyfu
>>738269864This, game would've sold like 10 million on launch if you could make Eupha your cute pagan queen.
>>738269696>persona>but no romance>flat, unlikeable bitches>shit combat>lame musicI am sursripsed it did not flop harder.
>>738269696Romance, it was that easy...
>>738271064You don't know how normies react to things and decide to buy something.They have no idea how any of these work, they don't look for it, they don't inform themselves, they don't look deep into it.The ad said "by the creators of Persona 5", the next few clips were about twink-looking anime characters (like Persona) fighting in a turn-based fashion (like Persona) then you have a scene where two characters discuss with a text bubble at the bottom and the characters' portraits (like Persona)You really have no idea how braindead the average person is
>>738269696It's an Atlus game so there's 0 chance of me buying its vanilla first release at launch for full price when I know damn well there'll be a more complete re-release 80% off in a few years.
>>738269696I cant find the article no matter what keywords I search. Spoonfeed me.
>>738271427I'm pretty sure the game heavily hints her being the main love interest for the protag, no?
Is Metaphor made on Unreal Engine? I ask because I've been playing SMTV and that is an Unreal Engine game and as a result feels very cheap.
2 mil seems good for it, it does look cheaply made after all
>>738271756Because it doesn't exist. He made it up in response to >>738255984
>>738272010Hints don't do it, you are either show it in canon or not.
>I AGREE WITH THE FAKE ARTICLEthis board is so fucking dumb, it's unreal
What the fuck is Atlus even making right now? They don't have any SMT or Persona projects announced aside from the 4 remake. I thought the remake was being done by the "B" Persona team but ffs it has almost been a decade since 5 and they haven't announced anything new
>>738270369>I'm tired of playing as mousey twinks in jrpgsThis is the main problem, and loud, obnoxious fujos in Japan are the cause. These MC's are almost a complete fucking blank slate anyway, with how little personality they have, might as well just do a fucking character creator instead.Also, look what they did to the most recent mainline musou games, turned every single fucking male character into a twink because fujos are loud on social media about shipping and merch.
>>738272401metaphor enhanced will probably be announced at SGF or later this year and releasing early-mid 2027
>>738269696It’s the first truly woke, modern left wing game in Japanese history and it flopped. What does that tell you lmao?
>>738272207Should have known it was some FFag seething.
>>738269696They fucking told you
>>738269696Like the only point in playing fatlus games is that they're set in Japan. That why weebs play them.Why would you play one of their games that's set in some gay fantasy world? What, for the shitty gameplay? For the lgbtq+ politics? Yeah see you there bro.
>>738272621They already did Tokyo and the buttfuck nowhere countryside that's the Japan experience
>>738269696>game drops>atlus says sales are good>time passes>atlus says sales are badWhich is it? Or were they expecting the game to continue to sell well after the initial release?
>>738269696I literally skipped it because you faggots told me it was woke, I didn't check. I've been buying Atlus shit since 2008.
>>738272945>atlus says sales are badThey never said that. OP's article is fake.
>>738269696>Blames rival titles in the same genreSuch as?..............
>>738269696Metaphor is really fuckin good desu.
Why does a filthy brown post this thread every single day?
The game’s graphics look like ass.Atlus is no longer the underdog they still think they are. Not to mention its first reveal had fps dips, like c’mon.
>>738269696>>738255984now kith
The people want Etrian Odyssey. Where the fuck is it?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0T_zIR9m60
>>738273163Yeah, didn't this game pretty much run unopposed lol
>>738269696Personally I think it was too much like Persona. They should have tried to deviate more from the formula instead of doing a diet version of the same gameplay structure.Also the story had a lot of promise but started losing steam around the third act
>>738269696Just before this they released a shitty port of the psp version of 3 and called it a remaster but it still had shitty compressed music and ai upscaled 2d backgrounds. I have never and will never buy another atlus game after that so there's at least 1 missed sale accounted for
>>738269696The game was purged of all the Atlus goodness and replaced with retarded leftoid politics, the combat system is just an amalgamation of other combat systems, the human bosses look great and the fairy is cite but all other character designs blow
>>738269696I liked it and this thread is proof /v/ doesn't know what the fuck its talking about. Like claiming dating mechanics matter. What are you, teen girls?
>>738269696persona 5 was really successful, then instead of making persona 6 they just refused to make it for a decade and kept making other games that they should have known weren't going to perform. none of atluses other games are persona, you'd think at some point they would have worked that out. The people like persona, they aren't gonna show up for all this other shit. They won't buy Raidou. They won't buy Soul Hackers. They won't buy Metaphor. They won't buy Radiant Historia. They won't buy all this other shit. They should have known this. They've absolutely SQUANDERED the potential of persona by not releasing it for so long. All of that initial interest is drying up because they sat on their asses not making persona 6. It could have been HUGE. But they fucking wasted it. Dumbasses.
so the next game is defiantly gonna be them in that magic school
>>738269864Expectations of dating mechanics are killing CRPGs, don't let that scourge spread in the J variety too.
>>738273462Yup. It's the only reason it won so many tga awards too.
>>738269696Nothing says success more than this.
>>738273709>persona 5 was really successful, then instead of making persona 6 they just made a bunch of persona 5 spin-off games, including a mobile game, so they could milk P5 for all its worth
>>738274107shoulda made persona 6 instead
>>738269696The characters were ugly, the plot was predictable, extremely hamfisted with preachy dialogue at every turning corner with by the number nu-sona cliches, the gameplay was no different than an SMT lite, and no dating options despite being clearly targeted at the nu-sona audience. On top of all this the diversity themes came in at an extremely bad time for the political climate.
>>738273731Most JRPGs are not expected to have dating mechanics, this one people wanted dating mechanics because they kept advertising it as "What if Persona but medieval fantasy".
>constantly release enhanced editions that force you to redo like 100 hours of content>WHY WON'T ANYONE BUY OUR BASE EDITIONS
>>738269696no datesim = shit
>>738273709They said this about 4 into 5.
>>738269696This is clearly made by someone who wanted to proof that he wasn't a right winger, misogyny and over all one trick Pony.Ao he made a woke, female empowered non Persona game.Persona is on the other hand made for straight japanese conservative young and middle aged men so their focus is appealing to them and making any other who isn't the target demographic take it or leave it.Metaphor just tries to be Persona but not for the average Persona fan.
>>738269864people really give a fuck about that? It's the cringiest shit imaginable imo
>>738275063yeah they took too long back then as well. and now they're taking twice as long as even that. crazy shit man. who needs a 6 year gap when you can sit around and wait over a decade before you even think about making a new game
>>7382752898 year gap i mean
>>738269804this. on top of being fuck ugly the game was about commie revolutionaries trying to overthrow yet another white villain. the bitch telling you to eat the bugs was way on the fucking nose
>>738269696Calendar system belongs in Persona and only in Persona, it also lacks hot sexualized female characters with coomer outfits
>>738269696>Everything gamers like is BAD!>Now buy my JRPG where I scream this at the player every ten seconds!it's a mystery to nobody
>>738275276>It's the cringiest shit imaginable imoso are profits imo
>Make all the characters adults>Censor ass anywayAs per usual lolifags were just ground zeroAfter that woketards just update their programming to calling people misogynistic incels.
>>738269696People that like Persona dont actually want Persona, much less any other JRPG or turn based battles. People that like persona simply want an anime high school simulator. If you removed all the jrpg stuff and combat and double down on only the high school stuff, the game will double in sales.
>>738275646Odyssey literally has a DLC with a forced romance where Kassandra gets pregnant from some Persian guy.
>>738269696Only reason why Metaphor got that attention is because people are thirsty for Persona 6.
>>738275549Wonder how Hunker would look if she was designed for actual straight men.
>>738269696sex with will tbqhwudesufam
>>738272207They're never beating the most insecure fan base allegations.
>>738275276Yes they do, the correct way to play persona is to rush the dungeon in the minimum of day possible and use the month to upgrade your sl4 hours of dungeon, 4 hours of sl, 4 hours of story until the next dungeon
>>738276045What a bunch of homosexuals
>>738276045it would pretty much just be kasumi with either elf ears, horns, or boththe mc is already the ps3 mc with jeet skin and thee other dude is the ps4 mc with horns
>>738269696T O L E R A N C E
>>738276495Did she consent to this picture????
>>738277024Ren took it so she's okay with it.
>>738271160Yep. We can come to the conclusion that it sold surprisingly well on PC, but overall felt short.
>>738275276TRUVKE
>>738269696It's not even woke, it's a cowardly game.It's empty, there's nothing to debate. The characters were bland, there was no dissent, no meaningful debate. Fire Emblem Three Houses had a very mediocre story but people are still fighting about those characters to this day. Metaphor doesn't allow you to have any opinion other than the most milquetoast centrism. Also the designs for the monsters and archetypes couldn't be more boring.
>>738269696I googled the headline and can't find any such article.
>>738273709>They won't buy Soul Hackers.Soul Hackers 2 is a generic RPG wearing a Soul Hackers costume
>WAAAAAH THEY DIDN'T MAKE ANOTHER DATING SIM IN HIGHSCHOOL WAAAAHHoly shit kill yourselves.
>>738269696How the fuck did this cheap game not sell. It plays like it was made by an amateur, it also has a woke storyline. And fuck the main char design, looks like a faggot. With all the based design Japan makes on the boorus, they still go with this?
>>738269696Where's the fucking article you fucking faggot?YOU FUCKING LIARYOU BROWN BASTARD
>>738269696It had hype from the initial concept when people thought they were doing regular high fantasy or something closer to Etrian Odysseybut they threw that away and turned it into diet ugly Persona probably the worst party designs Atlus ever made
>>738269696if it was on Switch 2 I would get it
>>738280250Hulk is cute enough to be a fan favorite but her character is an unbelievably dull write a man but call her a woman character from a 2010s CRPG
Not enough sweaty naked twinks
>>738269864No joke I genuinely believe the lack of romance was a major factor. People are seething about it in the last 2 replies but romance does massive legwork for a game's longevity cause it keeps people talking, it also adds replayability as you can go for a different love interest in a 2nd playthrough.
>>738270696>>738271140>>738271160>>738277660Didn't they say that Metaphor had an incredibly strong start but massively teetered off with time? I feel like the biggest reason is the definitive editions personally. Makes sense that only the most diehard fans would buy it day 1 and everyone else would just wait for them to release Metaphor Royal down the line. The rerelease structure is genuinely the dumbest fucking marketing strategy ever. Of course it would negatively impact them in the long term when you just teach your players that the base versions are trash and you're better off waiting for them to release it again but with all the new cool features and content. Doesn't help that Metaphor feels massively lacking in content like they cut out a whole chunk of the game near the end where you'd expect rerelease content to go.
I should have taken more screenshots, the game is pretty.
Why does /v/ idolize the rich?
>>738270520>ExpectationsTo be fair SE is always retarded when it comes to expecting their games to better than anyone could tell you they'd do. They fucking want everything to do Call of Duty numbers.
>>738281329Jews. Who else do you think obsesses over sales statistics and steam charts?
>>738269696>woke slop made by westerners is flopping left and right?>I know exactly what our games need!
>>738269696The promotional material made it look like off-brand persona 5.If I wanted to play persona 5 I would play persona 5.Also the name is dumb.
>>738269696You know OP is desperate when he gets out his fake article
>what if persona but bad?Fatlus needs to stay in their lane.
>>738269696either persona audience only wants to play persona or people wanted this game to not have the same layout as a persona game
>>738269696I can't find this article...
>>738281104>Didn't they say that Metaphor had an incredibly strong start but massively teetered off with time?Nope Some persona fan said this in a youtube short and got 800k views though, he got fact checked in his comments but most persona fans are too retarded to be anything other than leftist headline readers even for a single player game P3 Reload had a much harder fall off and took twice as long to sell 2 million copies but there was not a peep said about that
>>738282021I mean yeah I feel like the only people who would buy P3 remake are P3 fags and they're naturally not gonna wait. I didn't buy it cause I genuinely dislike P3 I think it's the worst Atlus game I've ever played.
>>738269696WE DIDNT ASK FOR MUCH. JUST A TINY BIT WOULD HAVE SAVED IT.
>>738281514jeetsway no those are also paid by jews
>>738282016He shopped it months ago from an automaton article, it was one where Sega was alluding to games that weren't meeting sales expectations without naming names in a financial report (which later turned out to be Sonic Cross Worlds) Automaton tried to get clicks by putting a metaphor picture in the headline, but the story had literally nothing to do with metaphor, so they had to literally go on steam community forums and link to a thread with broke third worlders that didn't buy the game complaining about rereleases to compensate. I wish I was fucking with you
>>738269696persona fans dont actually like jrpgsthey just like persona, and they go crazy when any aspect of a game deviates from what persona did
>what went wrong no waifu no buy
>post fake article>replies to his opening post 7 dozen times This is twice he's done this in a week. It must finally be settling in that he lost
OP's just lashing out because the IRGC can't keep the pool closed anymore
>>738273404The only difference is the FF article is real kek
>>738272207They've indirectly said at it without calling out Metaphor directly.
>>738271064I like how people can just say all this shit matter-of-factly when the OP is actual bullshit. One of the biggest signs of room temperature IQ
>>738269696I saw the "Diversity is their strength" bullshit and decided not to buy :)
>>738283195>indirectly so you're coping and this definitely doesn't have anything to do with metaphor because they've never had better launch sales for an Atlus game period and did nothing but praise the launch sales to high heaven and that's also me assuming this is a real article which is more than it probably deserves desu
>>738269696Are these threads just an excuse to talk about the game? I see people bitching about it every single day while claiming that it was forgotten.
>>738269696I sure do wanna pay $60 to be lectured on why I'm a bad person because of my race/religion/nationality.
>>738283336There are 3 subhumans from third world countries that spam in these regularly. If you pay close attention these threads always slow down to a crawl and usually die around 11AM-12PM eastern which is right when they're going to sleep. Same with any thread about Crimson Desert, Saros, or any thread made about E33 past the first month it was out
>>738281104The re-release strategy was also bad for more hardcore fans because pretty much all of their re-releases have made the balance of the game worse. They just tack on a bunch of shit.
>>738283324>so you're copingNo, Sega themselves are signaling that the game underperformed, they wouldn't be talking about attracting a "broader audience" unless they were dissatisfied with the size of the current audience.
>>738280718Thumbnail looks like she has wings
>>738269696They made a shit game. Persona is also garbage but it fulfills the fantasy of being popular in highschool for losers
>>738269696Nooticing that Metaphor haters are so stupid and uncritical they bought OP's fake headline...Wonder if that says something...
>>738283674>Sega themselves are signaling that the game underperformedlmao by what, calling it a success and saying it exceeded expectations on multiple occasions while putting down actual flops like the newest sonic game or saying P5X didn't meet KPIs they had for it? This is another bullshit screencap that doesn't live past the headline either, not only has the P5/Metaphor director been saying this since before Metaphor came out but in the same interview with Game Informer this got ripped out of he talks about the game being a success.
>>738272945it can be both. Just look at Monster Hunter Wilds. great opening week then embarrassing falloff to the point where it got outsold by Rise in the next quarter.
>>738275276>people really give a fuck about that?it's the core of persona nowaday. if you don't want that, just play smtyou know the game fucked up when other atlusfags actually go and say that this game is persona without the dating sims
>>738283990This is a horrible example, because Milds has never sold below expectations and they've never said that even once. They panicked because the game's longevity was fucked and they wanted to make sure they could sell their expansion in 2 years time. You will never find a good example of this because there are none. Games always fall off from their launch sales and nothing ever consistently makes money at the same rate, not even gachashit playing with 20+ million a month. You just don't think about it there because you're too busy looking at sales aggregates and EOS shitposting
>>738283651Based, fuck tranime
>retards throw a fit because no dating sim elements before game comes out >game doesn't flop>retards left malding for literal years and have to lie to each other to make it look like their purchase decisions mattered
>>738283195They directly said Metaphor sales went strong so that headline is about a different game.
>>738284717VV, probably.
>>738269696Can't fuck the fairy. What's the point?
Has any spergy youtuber compared Metaphor and Suikoden because I hadn't thought of it until today but they're extremely similar
>>738284717The "games not selling well was definitely" Sonic Racing because they came out and said that underperformed the next quarter, but I don't think the comments they made during that particular investor meeting were about any one game because all their top sellers are definitive versions of previous released games for pretty much all of their major IPs. You can look at Sonic for this too because aside from Frontiers they went back to having every Sonic release flop with the sole exception of a definitive version of Sonic Generations that came out the same year Metaphor did. Almost immediately after they brought this up they went ham on Yakuza ports and remasters and de-listing older versions of Yakuza games leading up to their remake of 3 - which they did not once praise the sales for - and this month they're announcing a definitive edition of Frontiers, and they might have a new release of Sonic Forces being worked on if that trademark means anything.
>>738284717So strong they want to "evolve" how they make JRPGs to reach a wider audience?
>>738269696Maybe stop making turbo twinks and maybe not make a horrendous MC design.
Why don't gay twink queers buy video games like this and support the devs? Do AIDS infested young-boy loving butthole enthusiasts not play video games or something?
>>738285219maybe stop saying the same thing over and over again and looking like a complete retard to everyone around you
>>738283443To what end?
>>738275213>as if women would do that, demand attention from a man like that, ughLmfao surely this is satire right?
>>738285369discover that schizophrenics figured out you can do shit like just post a retarded lie and get hundreds of posts of attention and the last 10 years of 4chan become manifest
>>738285369why does any third worlder lie to white people about things? because the only place they have any voice at all is online
>>738284309You're mexican brownoid, your opinion doesn't matter.
>>738285446Bummer. I actually liked the game
>>738285205Aiming for a wider audience is always inevitable unless you are fine with making the same game over and over, without any form of expansion in regards to presentation, graphics, budget, or increased ambitions in general.
>>738285205so your precious 15 minutes of dating sim in P5 is a flop too I guess because they've been "aiming for a wider audience" since that oneretard
Sega:>Metaphor performing better than expectedRando investor:>Sales seem to not match its accoladesSega:>Sales steadily increasing and on pace to pass our original forecast
>>738271427This but i found the whole handholding scene really cute9/10 game for me and got me to start playing persona
>>738285736This was before they announced the 2 million milestone also, so the square enix employee they snuck into the investor meeting probably went home red in the face
>>738285736That response from Sega reads like cope to me.
>>738269696Their main characters look all the same, weak faggot looking men. No one is interested in playing as one.
>>738286056>the game is doing better than we expected and we're revising our initial forecast to be higher, and our overall sales are down specifically because of this football game >c-copeI like the idea of there being a brown investor in the room reacting like this. He's not even there because he's interested in the company doing well, he put his Somali Daycare money into Sega just so he could show up to the investor events and call everything a flop
All without dropping the E Word:>made weird, high concept lofty promises of deconstructing fantasy >actually it's just the persona formula lole >all plot beats are extremely predictable >Persona style word slop at every turn >can't properly romance the girls >visuals and audio are at best questionable And the most egregious thing for me: a pathetic milquetoast "um uhh racism is bad guys" theme (written by jap boomers in their high trust ethnostate) which is comically out of touch with our zeitgeist
I have to wonder. Why are you faggots so insistent on lying instead of using actual arguments? And now to ask the readers of OP, why do you fall for such blatant lies that are so easily confirmed so easily?
>>738286284>"um uhh racism is bad guys" themedidn't play the game>our zeitgeistlmao you're going to be lucky if your part of the world still exists in a year
>>738269696>stereotypes are... LE BAD>the greater majority of tribes are exemplars of said stereotypes anyways>the race of liars is indeed a bunch of liars>you get the most benefits from reading if you just parrot Gallica>taxes are... LE GOOD>meritocracy is... LE BAD>I want democracy but fuck fairness only the top 20 get the royal magic cockshield
>>738286340>readers of the OPconsider that a majority of the responses to the OP are from the OPthis thread got conquered by the first world but even setting that aside there's so many recycled responses from past anti-metaphor threads that even /v/ noticed
>>738269696Don't care, still waiting for the FES version.
>>738269804fpbp
>>738286268>y-you're brownNice cope, but I wouldn't expect Metaphor 2 to happen anytime soon, or ever.
>>738269696>definitive editionsIt's this, bro. Stop doing that shit.And stop making bullshit and make a new Etrian type dungeon crawler.
>>738287769If you don't want people calling you brown then stop doing literally everything a brown retard would
>>738287784>EO shills are so desperate that they believe fake headlines now sad, 3 and 4 were actually decent games
>>738269696The most fuckable bitch in the cast wasn't a companion, AGAIN
>>738287870Play 5 too sometime, it's really good.
>>738269696>awful woke character designs>awful woke story>awful 20 year old gameplayYou have to be a true Fatlus loyal dog to defend this game.
>>738288018running out of things to say already I see
>>738287826Only brown people would defend a game that promotes globalist values like diversity and inclusion.
>>738288130is that why exclusively ESLs lie about this game being one of those?
>take one look at a flop posting thread on steam forums >all the exact same language being used here>everyone calling the game a flop is a brown turd from south america or an SEA that can barely speak english >everyone refuting them is from a white majority countrythe jig's been up on metaphor hate threads for awhile I think
REMEMBER WHAT THEY STOLE FROM ME
>>738288369the only reason why I remember the generic fantasy look of the game in pre-production at all is contrarian spergs like you
>>738285736opbtfo
The game felt too long so I never finished it
>>738288408NEVERFORGET
>>738269696Personafags only want to play persona.
>>738286268>racismyou need to play metaphor again sweetie
>>738288130Meanwhile in the actual game>the old world tried all the leftist bullshit and it eventually led to the apocalypse >we tried inclusion again later but there were racewars >we want them to be less hostile but it's fine if the island people keep gatekeeping their religion >the elves are still mad that they're an ethnic minority >we put the cute brown girl in charge of executions>you opened schools to poor people but there's no public transport going into the mountains after a year of you being king so they're still fucked
>>738288130I agree, Final Fantasy players are brown.
>thought i was going crazy>it is just a fake articlenigger, i swear to god
>>738289447If there's one thing /v/ will do for you, it's improve your barometer for bullshit.
>>738269696The protag looking like a giant faggot didn't help
>>738272192modern japanese games are so fucking ugly it's unrealps2 games look better
>>738269696>Persona but not teenagers>and not a typical school setting>and no romance mechanicsHEY ATLUS, GIMME A PERSONA WIT' NUTTIN' ON IT
>>738271092I legit waited so long for persona 5 royal hat I legit stop caring about it. havent bought persona 3 remake eiother.
>>738288369Could've had High Fantasy kino but instead get Modernist fantasy slop
>>738275397It also had woke narratives, like one of the characters talking about his privilige.Toned down females, zero big boobs anywhere. Look at that pic, pure trans representation lol. >>738275549Shit game. Glad it flopped.
>>738269864Isn't that just SMT? Maybe I'm an idiot but I love that series and thought SMT was pretty popular.
>>738269696Nobody knew about it except Persona players, so their entire market share was a small percentage of people who like Persona. This is really marketing's fault, and releasing it with Denuvo, since it was cracked so soon which retard is going to pay the version with worse performance.
>>738269696I think the biggest issue was no connection to previous IPs so a lot of Persona fans ignored it
>>738270230It's like the worst scenario, when the first wave buys the game during the max hype period and understand it's not great. Sales plummeting, the game has no legs
>>738269696>>738269804It's clear what went wrong with this fucking trash westoid-pandering piece of shit "game". Romance? Umm, that's like, umm, problematic okay?! Because like, the romance in Persona was umm, like, so heckin' icky! Not like the progressive queer ally romance in balgay3!
>>738269696>lets make a new fantasy game that isn't persona>but it actually looks exactly like persona, plays like it and has all the social mechanics of the game>lets then make a ton of cute characters and show them in trailers>lets actually nerf those characters designs>actually, there's no romance, you can get the waifu you wantwow I wonder why did it fail
>>738290419SMT has no retarded calendar system to pad out the game. This was literally persona but without personas and fade to black sex scenes at the end of social links(you still romance most female characters, you just don't fuck them at the end.)
What in the fuck did they expect?
My problem with Metaphor is that the combat was too simple.It was a game that was halfway between Persona and SMT.Too casual to be on the level of an SMT game, not enough Persona management sim elements to carry the weaker combat.It doesn't help that I also found the overall story to be incredibly boring.I really liked the Etrian reference dungeon, but the rest were quite plain.Weak mechanics, weak story.I enjoyed the game, but I don't feel much love for it and never played a second run through
>>738291214What type of mental disorder causes you people to behave like this?
Guys how is Soul Hackers 2 I was gifted it years ago but haven't played it
Remember when it came out shills were saying it wasn't woke, hoping you'll buy it.Pepe (erige) Farm remembers.
>>738291536>I really liked the Etrian reference dungeon, but the rest were quite plain.The worst part is after that dungeon there is just.... nothing until the final section. Instead of building on it you get fucking nothing.
>>738285425Persona fans are something else
>>738269696It’s the only JRPG and Atlus game that my wokie sister played so I assume it absolutely has to be bad. I just wonder how she discovered it or why she had the desire to play it.
>>738291773It's okay. It's not as complicated or compelling as other SMT games but it's still fun.
>>738291773Thoroughly mediocre but if you got it for free you may as well play it.
>>738291536I found the combat to be better than SMT. Synthesis skills were nice and made you consider whether or not it was worth consuming an extra turn for a stronger skill, and I thought restricting access to anything above resistance to the party until late in the game made it so you couldn't shut down bosses because they can't hit you while also avoiding the problem of end game bosses in SMT generally sticking to almighty or piercing skills. The only thing I think that they went backwards on was ailments becoming useless for the party which is odd considering that ailments are very good in Etrian Odyssey and were good in SMTV.
>>738269696It's very admirable that Atlus can be so humble after they failed to make the new gen RPG and then saw the French do it effortlessly to universal praise.
>>738275276They literally play the 100 hour game just to get to the 5 minutes of an anime girl saying "I love you". No, I'm not joking. Metaphor was GotY 2024 btw
>>738291903To be honest the difficulty was so low I didn't even miss having nulls or whatever. Synthesis skills returning from earlier megatens was nice though, and I'd like to see them in more of them.
>>738291834>>738291843Thanks nigga-tachi.Do I need to play Soul Hackers 1 to understand it?
>>738269696PersonaButUgly
>>738269864It's this (for romance fags) and Atlus burning a lot of goodwill re-releasing shit (as was common during the PSX, PS2 and PS3 era) to where anyone that waited for Metaphor: Re-REFANTSTIC:ZIO EDITION! didn't buy the initial Refantazio edition.I guess now that we know it's undersold to where they aren't going to do a re-release, I'll finally buy the damn thing.
>>738292762No, it's largely unconnected. If anything the game probably would have done better if it wasn't titled soul hackers. Still would have had a lot of the same problems, but there would be less expectation for it to be a sequel to the devil summoner series.
Wait...it was made by atlus? I thought it was a persona knockoff by some Chinese company no joke lmao.
>>738292849>persona knockoff by a chinese companyNo, that's the actual persona gacha.
>>738271756
>>738291634Says the idiot asking why this garbage didn't sell
>>738269696>release the game for full price with denuvo rape DRM>expect me to pay the full goy price when I know a definitive edition will come out at some pointI'm not stupid Atlus, you do this shit every time, we all know its coming
>>738293596>denuvo rape DRMIt was cracked super early because they fucked up and forgot to put it in an early release or something. I pirated it myself.
>>738290347This, I hate the generic anime look it ended up with.
>>738274107I'm surprised they didn't make Persona 5 Arena
>>738293027Except this "garbage" did sell well, schizo.
>have someone called Hulkenberg>neither huge body nor huge nose (or at least ears)This game was doomed from the start.
>>738272192>Mission : Find an innRiveting
>>738295370Wait until you hear about the puppy missions in Yakuza Kiwami>SAVE THE PUPPY
>>738290419Nah Metaphor is explicitly designed like Persona in a way that no other SMT game is.
Stop expecting more sales.
>>738294968No, it didn't and the reason is clear. Fucking shill faggot.
Anti-racism is dumb in real life but it’s even dumber applied to distinct fantasy species. Dwarfs and elves are supposed to be fundamentally different species and they are supposed to hate each other simple as.
>>738273617
>>738291779OP's article is fake. Retard
>>738292835>now that we know it's undersold to where they aren't going to do a re-releaseRetard
Poor people are liars, what else is new?
>>738269696I don't know, but I just didn't enjoy it as much as some of their other stuff like SMT and Persona. I didn't hate it, but something felt off. I appreciate them trying something new, but maybe this wasn't it.
>>738270230Yes it sold 1 million on it's first day but struggled to make another million until 7 months after release. It was a frontloaded as fuck release
>>738300198Persona 3 Reload*struggled to make another million until 14 months after release*
>250 posts in>No one mentioned the absolute dogshit pacingReally? I couldn't bring myself to finish the final month of the game, why does the dog dude only joins after you're done with 80% of the game, why isn't Archetype level shared across your entire party, you're telling me the player doesn't even have some form of catch up archetype exp for your new party members? Everytime a new member join in the debut act I was excited to come up with a build for the new archetype that comes with them, and then immediately got reminded I would have to grind all over again.
>>738269696They need to change the formula to make the game appeal to millenials, zoomers and gen alpha. The current turn-based formula only really appeals to boomers.
>>738300396Most of this thread is calling the OP a lying schizo, and no, no one bitches about metaphor's pacing because people that get filtered by both P5 AND Metaphor are in a mentally deficient minority of a minority of a minority
>>738279898>With all the based design Japan makes on the booruslmao no, they looked like chink gacha designs, somehow bland as shit yet simultaneously overdesigned for no reason>>738280250yeah these are ugly enough that even literal AI generated slop is better somehow
>>738301362keep bumping your thread sperg you will look like the smart guy eventually
>>738269696>What went wrongThey didn't realise that "by the people who made Persona 5" would not sell as well as if they had just called the game Persona ReFantazio.A simple change of the title would have added an easy million or two in sales.
>>738302739retard
>>738269804FPBP
>>738302798retard
>>738302812retard
>>738269696>Announce a fantasy project that is supposed to be exciting new direction for studio>Cool traditional fantasy art in announcement>Finally show game>It's fucking Persona with a slight fantasy makeoverYou get what you deserve.
>>738282128heresy
>>738269696This is woke and worships people of color. Anti white slop.
>>738269696goat girl's ass was an affront to my eyesalso the job system was a bit underwhelmingrestart battle button was a waste of time because the game springs boss fights on you and if you have the wrong jobs equipped you're fucked, and restart battle doesn't let you change them.
>one good dungeon in the entire game>because it was ripped directly from a 17 year old ds game
>>738269696deserved. retard thought he was hot shit and wanted to do a persona game but without any of the dating. who the FUCK does he think he is?. fucking IMBECILE. sit down and make HOT HIGH SCHOOLERS, FAGGOT.
I'm not sure why we keep posting fake articles when this real article in itself is a giant red fucking flag. This means they're going to keep shoveling us Persona, but more watered down, and endless low quality Persona spinoffs. I'm also sure this is not the last we'll see of the "diversity" plotline. Expect uglier characters and more social justice nonsense in the next mainline. They really need to be taking a break from nu-sona and trying newer things. https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2026/01/its-coming-to-a-turning-point-persona-metaphor-director-says-atlus-rpgs-must-attract-a-wider-audience
>>738303494
>>738303494Atlus is not pleased with sales at all, anon. It took over 1 year and numerous sales to even sell 2 million copies. Metaphor was in development for over 8 years, mind you.
I'm just not a big weeb anymore that's more of a teenage childhood thing.
I didnt buy it because Im waiting for the definitive edition that atlus always makes...Im not buying the same game twice
>>738285736/thread
>>738303692you posted this already, dipshit and you already lied about this in this thread already too
>>738303494because this doesn't say the game flopped (because it didn't)
>>738269696The entire formula is stale. Turn-based can only sell if it has 2D pixel graphics. Sticking to boomer combat AA and AAA projects will kill the company.
>>738304091>Turn-based can only sell if it has 2D pixel graphicsNIGGA IN WHAT WORLD. shut your goofy ahh up.
>lie constantly for half of a nearly 300 post thread because you don't want people to see an atlus rpg as a success third world mental illness sure is something
>>738300396pacing is the king of midwit complaints from people that want to aspire to criticism but are too stupid to say anything with any insight
>>738304075It definitely didn't make as much as they wanted if they have to go to a "wider audience"
They should've implemented a full faction system to drive up engagementHell they could've just slightly reskinned law and chaos
>>7383036928 years of bbc worship
>>738285736Screw what the company Sega said. Some anon mad about rebirth getting raped said otherwise.
>>738304091Uh huh, yeah, sure. Baldurs Gate 3 is eating your lunch.
>>738269696Makes sense, the game was very boring and the story was also boring.
>>738304091>7K copies in Japan for a brand new Remake
>>738304268>brand new >remake MAKE IT MAKE SENSE
>>738304178you've said this 15 times, you've ignored everyone telling you why what you're saying is retarded all 15 of those times. Why keep trying? Who are you trying to convince other than yourself?
/v/ will never get over Metaphor felting FF7 to death
>>738300396i like how a huge chunk of the plot is the people deciding who's the most fit to be their ruler only for the mc to actually be the son of the former king so the crown is his by birthright and everyone is just ok with this they even made louis go from wanting a meritocracy with some pragmatic tendencies to a psycho who just wants to turn everyone into a monster because church badsaid church also got off completely scot free as an organization
>>738269804F P B P
It's literally impossible for a game to be a commercial failure while featuring such a cute boy
>>738269696It is a good videogame sir. If I had to list complaints, its that Will doesn't talk enough so they default to having Stahl steal his lines which is kinda cringe. The loc is mediocre, it could be much better but it also could be much worse. Hulkenburg is not real and her fat ass will not sit on my face (at least I have the figure) and NG+ is not NG+ enough for me, it feels too much like NG thanks to your aspects not carrying over, only their level so you have to wait for natural progression to return them to you. I think that's lame and gay.
>>738304409>and everyone is just ok with thisdidn't play the game >they even made louis go from wanting a meritocracy with some pragmatic tendencies to a psycho who just wants to turn everyone into a monster because church badincorrect, surviving the magic is the meritocracy >said church also got off completely scot free as an organizationthe whole thing nearly crumbled and lost all their political influence so you really didn't play the game
>everyone asking for a source>samefag around them for 10 hoursThis nigger reminds me of that Barry fucker who spams Final Fantasy thread.
What the fuck does "Metaphor Refantazio" even mean? Why do so many Japanese have such dumb, nonsensical retarded titles?
>>738304632it's the same thing in essence, only real difference is that FFXV actually was unpopular with a lot of people, unlike metaphor that's only unpopular with an extreme minority
>>738297853>>738293027>>738291214>It's clear what went wrong with this fucking trash westoid-pandering piece of shit "game". Romance? Umm, that's like, umm, problematic okay?! Because like, the romance in Persona was umm, like, so heckin' icky! Not like the progressive queer ally romance in balgay3!
>>738269696maybe if they stop waiting 5 years for the royal golden fes 1more x vengeance version i would actually boughted it
>>738304632Because Barry used the same method to troll FF fans using Metaphor and that retarded jeet took the bait.
>>738269696Not enough posts shitting on the character design they don't look pretty.
Wasn't this lauded as a massive success when it released?Did they lie?
I liked that the MC was voiced.
>>738304672>unlike metaphor that's only unpopular with an extreme minoritylol
It's sad how there's some faggot so obsessed with the game he genuinely unironically believes that not a single soul in the universe dislikes it, and if someone dares dislike it then they're samefagging because clearly this is the best game ever made.
>>738306020No, /v/ did though, repeatedly
>>738308582>constantly do this third world bullshit >get mad when the board notices Just give up, you will never alter the consensus around the game
>>738308640I'm not retarded nigga you speak like some anime villian through the entire thread about how everyone who dislikes the game is the same person. Find something better to do with your life than defend a flop every breathing moment of your life
>>738292837>If anything the game probably would have done better if it wasn't titled soul hackers. Still would have had a lot of the same problems, but there would be less expectation for it to be a sequel to the devil summoner series.persona 3 did just fine with the persona name releasing in a series that had been dead for over a decadesh2 is just mediocre on its own terms, bad as a sequel and uninteresting as the launching point for a new franchise
>>738269696>No Romancing>everyone was excepting a updated Version in 2 years, (The Goy Cattle learned from Persona 5)
>>738308749None of us are posting in an FF7 thread
>actually visibly upset that everyone figured out OP was lying and spent the entire thread mocking him for it lollmao
>>738269907It's fake dumbass
>>738309741you're so angry it's actually a little pathetic
>>738269696The real reason it failed is just that it lacked dating options which is what everyone plays Persona for no matter how they lie about it
>>738309403>everyone was excepting a updated Version in 2 yearsI'm still expecting that and shan't buy the first version. They're not fooling me twice.
>>738309804It's funny how literally the only people that believed OP have this dating sim opinion
>>738269804Fpbp /thread
>>738308582>It's sad how there's some faggot so obsessed with the gameYe it must be pretty sad for you to look in a mirror and see the least white person on the planet
>>738269907It didn't. Someone here is coping massively from the look of things
>>738269696Dozens of thingsIt looks like shitLots of character designs just aren't goodLots of enemy designs aren't goodNo romance of any kind, which is what persona players enjoyThe combat was easily brokenLots of dungeons reused assetsLots of areas you travel to that end up being a png and some dialogueIn general this taking several years of dev is extremely worrying
>>738310082nope
I already played Persona 3 Blue Version, Persona 3 Yellow Version, and Persona 3 Red Version.
Recipe for a metaphor sperg thread>lie in the OP about the game being a failure >make dozens of replies to the OP >attract actual retards that think there's a news story >attract fans of the game that want to make fun of OP and those retards >repeat until all 3 sides get bored and the thread dies
>this thread is still hereMetaphor is truly the apex of games for white men. It's the only way to explain why minorities sperg about it so much
>>738269696No fairy sexBillions of sales lost
>company expects to sell billions of copies>it doesn'twhat a surprise
>>738311082>thing that didn't happen expecting a thing that didn't happen didn't happen
>>738269696They went for a self-insert character again but the shit they go through is completely unrelateable.Game is all about high concepts like nobility, knight's duty, religious persecution, prejudice etc. as opposed to, at least somewhat grounded, human drama from persona. The social link equivalents were all boring as fuck.The calendar shit and adapting persona systems were tacked on and a poor match for what the story wanted to do.I didn't hate the game but it's kinda forgettable.
>>738269696Shouldn't have censored it. Nobody likes a Hank hill cosplayer
>>738311327>unrelateablethe peak midwit word (when spelled correctly)
The moral of this story is when you've got a thread template of having as many replies to the opening post as possible and you do it for a fake headline it really really stands out
>>738311619And you do it twice in one week*
Metaphor was a good JRPG but I don't know why thirdies keep making threads about it
>>738312654They had Rebirth lined up to take best rpg in 2024, and then it got overshadowed by metaphor out of nowhere
>>738269696>what went wrongNothing.
>>738271332>90% of it resembles a Persona gameNot at all, the only people who say this have never played either games or only played for like an hour.
>>738271332Gameplay systems are very similar but nothing about the setting, story or characters feels like a Persona game. The visuals might be ugly but they depict a massive fantasy world with grand scope and high stakes and larger than life characters instead of just Japanese schoolkids taking a train ride to eat a burger
>>738314267It has totally not "social links", totally not "a velvet room", totally not "personas", and a calendar. Those are literally from persona, specially the "not social links"
>>738269696>Low on sales.We talked about this shit for nearly 4 months, and now they say it was low on sales?.Fuck off.
>>738314543>The visuals might be uglyThey aren't
>>738314674It takes 2 seconds to find out if an article is fake
>>738314678They pretty objectively are, but it's ugly in the "low budget / low technology" sense. Not ugly in the "UE with random asset library props and no imagination" senseThis>>738272192Is ugly as fuck, but it shows an attempt to create something fantastical and interesting, so it's a poor execution of a good idea instead of a generic raytraced execution of zero ideas
>>738311327NTA but it's correct in this case. You can't have a Dojima and Nanako plot in a high fantasy world because there's too much made up shit that blows away all your familiarity with subtle human details.
>>738314893>You can't have a Dojima and Nanako plot in a high fantasy worldAnd thank fuck for that, I can't think of a worse written sequence in all of persona except maybe the betrayal in P3
>>738314989alright retard
>>738314882And to clarify, I like the look of Metaphor much better than whatever this random shit is
>>738315290They call it slop 33 for a reason
>>738290419SMT is all combat, dont have to worry about calendar spreadsheet statspreadMetaphor used the time slot management system and optimized it, at the cost of romance pandering which is half of Fatlus' fanbase at this point
>>738275549Reminder she had curves in the previous versions of the game and it was made flat in the final versionAtlus are fags
I don't care what anyone says, I'm still mad at what they did the Louis. This is if you make Jimineez CUREZYYYY at the end of Strange Journey.
>what if Persona>without the S.LinkAbout as retarded as pic related; a farming game without marriage
>>738315964Forgot pic
>>738315290lol weeb derangement syndrome is so funny
It's currently sitting on my wishlist, waiting until I have nothing else to do and it's on discount. It's on discount right now, but I'd really rather work on my backlog and writing projects.And besides, I'd only be getting the game for Gallica, since she's the only thing that's drawing me to play it.
>>738269696I bought it but I just didn't enjoy it as much as their other RPGsNot much to the combat from what I remember and the writing was mediocreThe artwork is fantastic though even if the designs are kind of eh
>>738316119Metaphor depicts a placeE33 depicts some random bs then pretends it's random on purpose and not because they couldn't be bothered to design anything coherent
>>738269696ATLUS, please put persona 6 in the bag
>>738316306mah dude, look at the thread photo, that's the prime example of a weeb cliché, the entire fucking game is a cliché, done 10.000 times already.
>>738269696You can't date/marry the fairy.What were they thinking?
>>738316306>doesnt understand that the art style is just splattered painting as its theme with ethereal effectsE33 is probably one of the few UE5 games to have actual art direction despite the engines limitationsNext youre gonna say AI slop, jeetnigger
>>738317192>It's lazy on purposeHere we go again
>>738270369This. I'd rather have characters with 40 belts again than these effeminate twinks
>>738275397>>738287254>>738291214>>738302798>>738304421 etc.You realize the article is fake right?
>>738317278Atlus twinks > Square twinks
>>738317921This
>>738317272Just like the dialogue is stilted and awkward on purpose because they're painted characters and not because Brian Cox was in the studio for like half a day by his own admission and he kept dodging the hivemind everywhere he could
>Flopped so bad they had to bundle it with E33 just to maybe move 10k extra unitsActual humiliation ritual.
>>738317410It doesnt matter if the article is fake, what's important is we believe that it flopped.
>>738269804>All of these samefag repliesLmao
>>738269804fippedy bippedy
>no Switch 2 releaseIt would've helped.
>>738316306Yeah, and Metaphor depicts some random ass retarded enemies because they couldn't be bothered to design anything coherent.
>>738269696All of the replies to this thread are retarded /pol/shitters who have never touched an Atlus game.It flopped because it wasn't called Persona. That's literally it.
>>738318750It didn't flop, so you're also wrong lol
>>738318514You can just taste Hashino's seethe when his supposed magnum opus masterpiece that was supposed to revolutionize the JRPG genre forever lost to the french lmao
>>738319037No one cares
>>738319129You care enough to reply and keep defending metaphor's honor lmao
>>738318671Thank you for providing the image which shows why that isn't random
>>738320165Do you want me to indicate when I'm being sarcastic? Perhaps I should add :^), or-or maybe write down /s? Would that be helpful? You're probably used to that.
>>738316306Random 3d model objects strewn about a terrain-painted landscape is the trademark unreal slop art style. Nothing else is possible with that engine
>>738317272>pretending to be retardedHere we go again, though in your case you actually areIf you cant recognize a fucking splatter in your face then you wouldnt recognize anything that you deliberately chose to have a pre conceived notion aboutI say this as someone who played and enjoyed both games
>>738320165Retard
>>738270351Maybe if they weren't cunts and had a DLC upgrade path people wouldn't wait.
>>738325559He's lying to you btw
