I started playing the DE last week and I can't stop, it's like crack. Has the open world in this game ever been surpassed?
>>738274965>Has the open world in this game ever been surpassed?NopeSavior it while you still can
>>738274965Genshin mogs it.
>>738274965The only better game is the original version of itself, which is much harder and more in-depth.
>>738274965yes, it has several times
>>738277382looks so much better
>>738277382How is it harder? I played some of the original and I think I agree, or it may just be me understanding the game better now.
>>738277404by what?
>>738274965Elden Ring
>>738274965>games never go on sale and are always $50+Fuck you nintendo
>>738277382>The only better game is the original version of itselfHow?
Is the physical edition worth buying yet?
>>738278271better visuals
>>738277382
>>738277498It's harder in stupid ways like the bit that made me drop it. IE you need to max Lao's affinity to progress but I never fucking used him or any party member due to the fucking retarded party management system that DE fixed.
>>738278380He's talking about the Wii-U version.
>>738278341Just get the Switch 1 version.
I want Lao's dïck to spank my bütt
>>738278570Kill yourself faggot
>>738274965>>738277518Try Just Cause 3 with the jetpack DLC.That game has actual combat and it gives you way more freedom to do whatever you want.
>>738278538It's the same version. I'm talking about the remaster which like every remaster has worse lighting. Not the upscaling shit(that was funny tho)
>>738278705Is it that bad? I'm about to buy it.
>>738278763It takes a high IQ or some other diine spark to notice this stuff so If you can't tell you'll probably be fine rolling around in the mud with the rest of the dregs. I won't try to convince you.
>>738277382>>738277498>>738278390>>738278271>>738278341The remaster spoonfeeds you literally, without exaggeration, FIVE times as much of every resource in the game, meaning the economy, resource management, character progression systems and so on are completely irrelevant. You literally get MILLIONS of cash and resources handed to you regularly via something called "Survey Rewards" that you didn't get in the original. And that's on top of making it so you can open most of the late-game treasure chests from the start of the game!They also made it so you can ignore cooldowns on abilities a certain amount of times in a battle, which obviously makes things easier but isn't as big of a deal as giving you basically unlimited resources to buy all the strongest gear, max out all your skills etc.The original also looks better in some cases - the remaster doesn't have hair physics for example while the original did, and some of the water and smoke effects and such are broken in the remaster because something is wrong with the transparency.
>>738274965If you "can't stop" then why the fuck are you posting in 4chan?
>>738279416Another thing they did was spoonfeed you all the information that you previously had to dig up yourself. The yellow speech bubbles in town that give you hints on how to complete each area on the map are totally superfluous now because you are simply given that information automatically. But they still kept the speech bubbles in the game anyway which shows just how lazy the remaster is - basically they dumbed everything down while also using a hammer instead of a chisel.
>>738279560Which sucks cause emulating the Wii U version takes a lot of resources and you dont get the online shit anymore
>>738279416If you play online you can also completely break progression by earning or farming material tickets.I didn't abuse this so much, but did it at the very end game to make a nuke Skell build that can one-shot or two-shot the toughest super bosses that require Skell combat.Ghost Walker, together with augments to make overdrive activation free whilst boosting hit count up to 99, is hilariously broken that you can solo multiple superbosses without taking damage.
>>738278271Extended story and explicit connection to the rest of the series. But as always with remasters there's some monkey's paw shit where they fucked with the balance bumping up the max level in the game by 50%, making the vast majority of enemies in supposed endgame areas no longer aggro due to a 10+ level gap.
>>738279416Five times is excessive but I do think the original was really stingy with its SeeD salary shit and needed some tweaking. Fun idea but you didn't get dick for grinding or doing quests. And the most expensive skell is basically mandatory to actually beat the final boss. I had to let my Wii U idle for like 30 hours to save up money because I was actually using it throughout the game and not hoarding (fuck me right)
>>738279416Is this were we pretend that the original game didn't consist of "skipping combat" altogether with busted builds? The cooldown skip is there simply to smooth out the early game where there is a LOT of sitting around waiting for abilities to come back and auto attacking. This isn't a "new = bad" situation, this is a you complaining that the ground isn't hard enough when you jump off of a cliff situation.
>>738279847The cooldown skip IS busted desu. But so were items (nobody used them).
>>738278313Anyone?
>>738274965>Interesting, grand biomes>Exploration progression via skell, making you feel like you're truly settling into the planet as you get it upgraded and can access new areas>Some cool monsters>Memorable side questsNot really for meAfter XCX I think Subnautica was about the last time I was impressed with an open world game since that also has interesting biomes, exploration progression with the various vehicles, and cool creatures.
>>738279931So we are all in agreement that the combat is the least interesting part of the otherwise incredible game? In which case, who the fuck cares?
>>738279996I picked it up. I enjoyed all versions of the game though and decided I should finally buy it legit at least once though
>>738279803I don't think I had the most expensive skell for the final bossHowever I do remember having a lot of trouble with him. By the time I beat him, my party members were dead, my skell was dead, and I was just bitch slapping him then running away for like 30 minutes or something to that effect.
>>738274965I haven't found any other game that hits the same as XCX. I should really pick it back up and finish the epilogue chapters.
>>738280509I absolutely hate the combat but the general style and the music is so cool at times, and the writing is comfy. I can't even think of a game that's as cool. Other titles like FF7, MGS1-2, or Starcraft back in the day kinda had similar levels of coolness but they just don't compare to XCX.
>>738274965The sense of scale in this game stuck with me hard and no game every really came close to matching it.
>>738274965Love the game but it's certainly not perfect.I think one of my biggest gripes is there aren't nearly enough decent augments to find around the world, all the good stuff takes hours and hours of endgame grinding.It felt like they went backwards from Xenoblade 1 in terms of augment/gem stuff and party composition.
>>738281109try genshin and crimson desert
>>738279416>you get more materialsGood? Go back to Disgaea if you actually like grinding forever, you creep.
>>738274965nope, maybe try dragon dogma dark arisen.the issue with this game is that the combat is broken. Once you learn how to infinite overdrive with Ghostwalker, every battle will be solipsistic. Just stack 99 Overdrive, count hits to reapply Ghostwalker. Also longswords are super broken, and etheral damage + core crusher/appendage crusher too>>738277749Yeah man, just emulate it xd
>>738281607>DisgaeaXenoblade X can almost get on Disgaea's level when it comes to numbers.
>>738279416Someone post the Elma on the balcony comparison webm
Hey, /v/.How's it poppin'?
>>738282306I look like this
>>738282306Never better. What about you?
>>738274965>Has the open world in this game ever been surpassed?Many times, by BotW on the same console.Xenoblade's world looks amazing but that's about it. It's empty and navigating it requieres awkward platforming.
I still find it funny that Yahtzee got filtered because he used his starter Skell to fight a high level enemy.
There are few things I have experienced as cool as seeing the Divine Roost for the first time. I was just expecting Noctilum: High Altitude Edition and was totally taken aback by the red mist shroud, hesitated to enter, then the atmosphere and music of the place really blew me away.
>>738284942>It's empty and navigating it requieres awkward platforming.but enough about botw
>>738280296>for like 30 minutes10 minutes are already too much for a boss.>>738281251kek
>>738285642XCX feels small to me now after those games.
HELLO IS THIS THING ON?
>>738285676Who cares. I will literally not listen to a thing you say after you mentioned those two "games".
>>738285412When does BotW requiere awkward platforming to get around? Its movement is actually designed for an open world unlike Xenoblade's janky crap
>>738285783Jealous tendie detected lol.
>>738279632>Which sucks cause emulating the Wii U version takes a lot of resources and you dont get the online shit anymoreCan you play on a cracke wiiu? I know there was some new homebrew that allowed to play online after the official servers shut but I'm sacred of having to fully reboot my console.
>>738285829I hate Nintendo, it's a shit company.I have a Deck, by the way. Still not playing your chink/gook slop.
>>738285925Xenoblade is a Nintendo game you dumb faggot
>>738285961What's your point? I have a Switch 2, does that mean I have to like Nintendo and suck their cock all the time?Can you people only think in binary terms?
>>738274965Nope if you're talking about the Xenoblade series, Xenoblade 2 and 3 has a much shittier open world. Lots of invisible barriers, places you can't go or climb to, a map that doesn't reveal jack shit which makes it harder to find literal anything. Just a big more standardized open world, basically something like Final Fantasy XII's open world but less interesting and that's really saying something.
>>738279803I beat the final boss with the starting skell. You were just bad.
>>738281607You aren't supposed to grind, retard. You are supposed to make interesting and difficult choices on which equipment to acquire because you can't get everything.Except in the definitive edition you can, which means it's for retards, just like grinding is for retards.
I started XC1, is it supposed to be so "anime" all the time?
>>738290843Yes and believe it or not, it's way less anime than 2 and 3.
>>738290895
>>738290843If you look at the older games they're even more anime, it's just how Xeno has always been.
>>738285690IS THERE ANYONE THERE?
>>738290843If you're talking about thw Switch version, the original Wii version had a more serious look and actually fits the tone better than the mobile game look from the remaster despite being a bit uglier. Someone also made an HD texture pack for the Wii version if you want to play that one instead. The remaster added a lot of QoL changes so its a no brainer why people would go for that one.
Does it still have the abysmal pop in where enemies load in on top of you?
>>738291661That was fixed on the Wii U version with the massive extra install.
>>738291878I did that and it wasn't fixed. Why do you lie to me.
>>738291618The HD pack sucks, don't use it. And I really don't agree that the original looks worse
>>738291618>>738292073I don't mind the remaster.
>>738274965Max out all the classes and dont neglect your ground setup when you get the skell, a later boss makes you fight without it and has an attack that slows your art recharge
>>738277382Huh? Seems like the difficulty is pretty much unchanged and I'm actually surprised that they kept as much of the bullshit in DE as they did like putting quest objectives in high level areas where the enemies will see you from a mile away and instantly kill you and also some quests are needlessly difficult for no reason. You're at the level requirement and even the suggested requirement, but the enemies keep killing you easily.
>>738292519Don't listen to him, purists are literally brain damaged apes. The DE is better than the original in every single way.
>>738274965crimson desert is pretty close>>738285802the zelda open world is legitimate jank tier with nothing to do. x's has a lot of nooks and crannies that you can only access with skell
>>738277382>>738279416>muh korea tier grind is goodFuck off I like how they toned down the mmo bs in DE. It made building shit easier and in effect made skells fucking broken with reasonable effort.>>738288636pics or didnt happen
>>738278313The switch 1 version is cheaper
>>738274965Genshin Impact > Crimson Desert > WoW > Tera Online > Xenoblade Chronicles X I'm a fan of open world games but every other big world I've explored doesn't really strike me as something worth praising. The games are fun but the world's themselves aren't very interesting aesthetically or to explore.
>>738294230>GI that highIll give you wow and terra but genshit has the blandest open world in gacha right now.
>>738294581I posted a webm proving that wrong tho. Be honest, have you even played it? IYou seem like you kind of like games if you didn't meme on me for the MMOs but those games don't really compare since the worlds are super empty in comparison.
>>738294616I'm never playing chinese gacha.or actual games for that matter.
>>738294616>that shit>goodGachafags truly have no standards.
>>738294870>>738295025Thank you for being honest and for the laughs lmao. You're genuinely just missing out on some of the coolest vistas, really fun exploration, and god tier music. I don't know what you're so afraid of, it's free.
>>738292578you're playing a soulless steralized version of the game
>>738295236>>738294230>chink shit>now with lens flareSure showed me
XCX is literally “I wish I could play this for the first time again” The Game. It’s so fucking fresh
>>738274965DE has changed my opinion on XCX's combat. I used to say the ground combat was better than 1's while the mechs were worse, but I now think both are worse.Overdrive gets rid of all the nuance found in xenoblade's combat system(s) and instead breaks down the combat to a 4-5 hit rotation which further de-emphasizes party members. This alone is bad but it makes XCX a bad game to replay, when in reality it should be great given the way armor/weapon drops work out in the field but because party members stop mattering in chapter 6 it all feels hollow.
>>738286754He’s shilling Genshin and Crimson Desert in a Xenoblade X thread. That tells you everything you need to know about how retarded and out of touch he is.
>>738295284I played the originals of 1 and X, the remasters are significantly better.You don't get to tell me what I played.
>>738295610Between overdrive replacing every party member's unique skills, tanks being significantly worse, combat centralizing on making the main character feel overpowered, the 6 different elements making it extraordinarily hard to make a survivable party member, and the tremendous grind, X's combat is a huge downgrade from 1. Still fun, but in a "don't take it seriously, just see how much crazy shit you can get away with" sort of way.
>>738281251>endless expanses of copypasted bandit camps and collectibles like that anon said: kek
>>738295772>don't take it seriously, just see how much crazy shit you can get away withthis is only really fun for the first few hours, I don't see myself replaying X again honestly (not just because of the combat but because the exploration feels hollow after a blind playthrough). Would rather replay the other xenoblades
>>738295352There is no lens flare in the game.
So is it good or not? Or worth buying? I’m not getting a Wii U or the old version I’m an autistic puritan to some extent but I would rather not get it at all than jump through those hoops.
>>738294230>genshin impact obvious troll is obvious
>>738295910I'm not even remotely trolling. I could add in more >'s to increase the gap even.
Xeno a shit
>>738295853Definitely worth a play, especially if you liked the other Xenoblade games.
>>738288738Then just skip everything but mandatory battles, don't restrict gameplay choices because you're a bitch
>>738295853It's good, quality of life changes are worth it, raising affinity in the original which is required for unlocking all the unique arts is a chore and they make you take Elma and Lin everywhere which makes it feel worse. It also doesnt end on a cliffhanger and the extra story stuff probably won't bother you because you didn't wait a decade for an ending.
>>738294230>>738295236>Cutscenes and still images of mobile ad shit Wow thanks, 2 social credit points have been added to your social credit score.
>>738291618>Fits the toneThis is always the go to cope for people who trash the actual vision of the game.
Remember, /v/. Don't forget.
>>738295853No, the thread was made ironically.
>>738296105>>738296286Cool thanks daddies
>>738296373Those aren't cutscenes, one is an ad just panning over random playable areas and the other is just regular screenshots. The game's world is like 100x the size of XCX it feels like, it's an open world game. You guys are so funny seething about a game you don't know anything about.
>>738296528It's also empty. I played Genshit, there's nothing of value to get except primogems sort of so you have a chance of rolling the actual worthwhile things so you can grind at a handful of select locations for a half hour until the game says you're not allowed anymore.Maybe "game" is too generous a word. It's a "service" where you're allowed to play a chore simulator for a while.
>>738296105How well does XDE emulate on AMD?
>>738296641I dunno I played on the switch.
>>738296616Translation:>I don't play games for fun, I'm a gambling addict and opening chests and completing puzzles and challenges is a waste of my time But also you clearly haven't played the game.
>babytrapped by a sewn together doll>it works
>>738296697I do play games for fun, that's why I'm saying gambling games like gacha are worthless. There's no value in them except a vain attempt to extort and manipulate the people that "play" them. It's predatory.
>>738297170You're the one acting like exploring a beautiful game with lots of fun stuff to do is pointless because of muh gacha rolls. Sane gamers who play games for fun and to relax will open chests because they're there, you're very clearly not one of those kinds of people.And just so lurkers are clear, this anon has not even played the game.
>>738297402You can add as many diamonds to a turd as you like, it's still a piece of shit.The game is marred by its intent. It's disgusting from its foundation for being a predatory live service game dedicated to trying to get you to spend real money.If it's not a product, I do not respect it.
>>738297534>you don't get it, it's completely free so I hate it and will cry about it without even giving it a shot>it doesn't matter than it's the highest budget and most soulful anime game with a gigantic open world they keep adding to>"reeeeee you can spend money on it if you're stupid"lol.lmao.
>>738297654>>738297402Genshin is litterally it get stale fast the game. Even it's player stopped giving a shit about the open world and story and just rip characters assets for devious means.
>>738298183You wouldn't know lol.
who the fuck cares about genshin holy shit
>>738298336Read the thread topic:>Has the open world in this game ever been surpassed?Yes, it has.
>>738298285>>738298454yawn
>>738294230>>738295236lol no one cares about genshit's open world.
is it better to play wii u version or switch? Im talking about emulation, tried it once on Cemu for few hours but dont really liked it that much. Now after i read thru this thread i really want to give it another shot
>>738299156emulate the wii version if you dont have the consolesget the switch version if you have switch
Is the diskbomb glitch still in X:DE? That shit was crazy fun on the WiiU. I think it got to the point where it crashed my emulator.
>>738299156Switch version will make early combat game a lot more intuitive
>>738295236fucking hell, looks like game version of artstation/deviantart main page before ai slop flooded them
>>738299432Anon, be nice. It's *special* to them...
is astral crusader good for a full run?
>>738299505world of warcraft type of vistas but mangled thru endless stream of game concept art on artstation ect, then mangled thru every ai generator shit possible and then it went to gameI can't look at something like this seriously, its like Overwatch character design but for environments. >>738299407>>738299247ok il will try it on wiiu emulator, still have ISO somewhere on my external drivesI had always in mind that its like solo MMO, i always liked mmos without interactions with other players and i tried chronicles x but early game was rough, weird aesthetic with big eyes and semi realistic models doesnt help either. After few hours i jumped to zelda botw and really liked it, desu its one of my fav game and i apart from ps vita i never owned any console at all.
>>738299398They fixed the duplicate bug. But not the broken damage scaling. Basically you need to farm two custom mags diskbombs now
>>738299614it's fun, go for it. The only starter classes I'd avoid are the bottom two because they take too long to get fun (seriously, enforcer is mind-numbing)
>>738299156Switch version added a ton of much needed QoL features. Nothing that can't be fixed if emulated and luckily mods are already built in cemu(after you download them that is) but be ready to be ready to turn on more than half a dozen of mods. Only thing you'd be missing it the extra content like story and map but those sucked. You could also just emulate the Switch version as I hear it runs pretty well and get the better of both worlds especially if there's 4k 60fps mods like the previous Xeno games, haven't tried emulating that one myself yet. Probably even look and run better than the Switch and Switch enhancements. Hard to say since nobody ever post screenshot comparisons to emulation.
>>738300224>>738300224Switch version probably would be better choice but i wanted to throw it on Z1E handheld. I had good luck with cemu and if its more stable and lightweight version to emulate so its probably better for me. Tried chronicles 3 and 1 on switch emulator and there was problems with flickering and performance wasnt that great unless i cranked up TDP way to high.
>>738274965Crimson Desert mogs it.
>>738299614Max out the rest of the classes to make the most of it but yeah, sniper rifles can get really busted with the right setup, the only real problem I had was keeping overdrive going until I unlocked some skills
>>738299156You're stealing the game, why does it matter to you?
>>738300445Yeah Switch emulation is pretty bad depending on your setup and its pretty much luck weather you'll have problems. XB2 and XB3 are especially bad emulated, with XB3 being the worst. 2 requires an Nvida card if you want the cloud sea to not look like shit and any graphically glitches can be fixed by restarting the emulator. XB3 is just fucked in general for certain areas of the game, still playable but fucking annoying needing to switch between Vulkan and OpenGL.
why am I dying with ghost walker against tethia plume?
>>738296406(((Who?)))
>>738300976He can put up reflects I think.
>>738301173both my weapons have negate reflect on them and Im still dying when he does that aura effect
>>738300793if anything i could but cheap switch 1 and try it there. Seen more than once that switch emulation can work great and throw u random progress breaking crash after 40h and you are fucked. I dont know how they done it but wii u and Cemu on PC was always super stable for me, too bad library is not that big
>>738301292The reflects are random and ghostwalker only has so many decoys so multiple hit attacks wear it down really fast, if you dont have maxed out reflect and run a weapon with a high hit rate with the element it reflects you'll just kill yourself
Don't like how they changed the MC model and removed/replaced character customization options with worse alternatives (mostly to reference characters from the mainline series that nobody fucking cares about beyond breasts) instead of fixing how awkward and restrictive it was to begin with.They doubled down on it being bad instead.Also the world's not that great. The skyboxes are. Big fucking difference. The world as it's playable is bog standard, ripped right out of any MMO from the last 20 years. The game plays and looks like ass when you take your time and look at it, especially NLA.Also in my personal opinion the alien morphology is pretty lazy. There are some standout designs here and there, or ones that look pretty because of their coloration, but in general it's just very bland and enemies just look and play like punching bags.ALSO, fuck the factions having no real identity/purpose. Such a lazy bait and switch.6/10 game overall, DE is a 5/10 for essentially doing nothing notable except fixing a few face models. Elma is hot, but her storyline's retarded and you don't need to play the game to vigorously masturbate to her.Monolith Soft suck at game design and cutscene direction.
>>738303141counterpoint. You stop giving a shit because driving around in a flying transformer makes up for all it's flaws. And also what other game gives you the pioneer fantasy of being in a mech. None so far and this game's a decade old.
did they fix the fucked up visuals in the switch 2 edition yet?
>mod out NLA theme>game becomes 10/10It's that easy
>>738303553HMMM YEAH HMMM YEAH BRAAP BRAAP.
>>738303553I don't understand how people can hate 1 2 3 4
>>738303372> And also what other game gives you the pioneer fantasy of being in a mech. None so far and this game's a decade old.Except it doesn’t.The skells are basically skins with better stats. Borderline cosmetics. That was also a problem with xenogears and xenosaga.JRPGs barely have any real gameplay on their own. Adding mechs on top of it doesn’t add anything substantial to the experience because the base is already too shallow and mech games are very hard to get it right as they require depth.Anyone that enjoys that watered down experience just has extremely low standards. When even Armored Core leaves a lot to be desired, XBCX is a joke.
>>738303553this webm... reminds me of that tragedy...
>>738295610So much this, my fav part of the game is when overdrive is not yet relevant
>>738304117gears and eggs are forgetable because of the turn based combat. xb being semi real time allows the mech combat some variety. But anyway it's pointless to continue arguing with someone whose still upset over the failed genshit shilling.
>>738303889Why is this doing no damage?>>738304095But this is?
I'm sad that by a certain point fights are basically decided by the equipment you bring and whether you have the right reflects or resistances instead of anything that actually goes on in the fight itself. You just follow a pretty basic rotation of arts to shit out as much damage as possible while reupping some buffs every now and then. I did this against the Telethia and Pharsis and the only reasons I died to either were because they had some attack I hadn't brought enough resistance or reflect for and once I did I became invincible. This is of course already ignoring simply cheesing your way through them by having Ghostwalker, with which you don't even need to care about using specific equipment, just on doing the rotation.After having reached endgame I had the most fun trying out a meme auto attack build that had Offensive Stance and Power Dive as its only two arts. Needing to actually watch out for what the enemy was doing and use Power Dive to dodge attacks in time, while keeping the weapon switch rhythm to make AAs come out faster so I could finish the fight in a reasonable amount of time was more interesting than any super boss
>>738275123>Savior it while you still canWTF?
>>738291618I hate it when games change style in remasters. Style is not something to "improve".
>>738295284It's funny because they animated the grass but not the tree.
>>738294230>WoWGame for subhumans.
>>738303372Literally Transformers: War For Cybertron,and it had better physics/handling, overall gameplay, and graphics. Came out five years before this low effort piece of shit.Shame you can't masturbate to it, though. Because what else does Xenoblade really have? Fuck all.Just joking, I have masturbated to Transformers before, and I ain't talkin' about Megan Fox.
>>738308786It still had good exploration when I played it.>>738299432>>738298661>>738298950It's just sad that you're like this.
>>738311819I can't bring myself to respect anyone who plays those kind of games.I consider mmos or stuff like LoL to be worse than nintendo toddler games.
