>create some of the most influential videogames of all time >try to create a new franchise without the backing of a huge corporation with your own studio>the game fails to get the money it needs >your own ''fans'' ridicule of and make fun of youWhat went so wrong?
I hate people
dunno who that is so probably didn't use his time marketing himself
>>738282820reddit is so fucking gay
>reddit
without gang of dragon to make money for him he can't level up to the next stage of boggification
Yakuza's online fandom has been taken over by the LGBT mafia that prefers the new fagged up wholesome direction the series took after Nagoshi left
>>738283009yeah why are they making jokes at a time like this? how disrespectful
>chigyus mad
Chigyus WON
The think you need to remember is that most of everyone are worthless sacks of shit, and they all think everyone else is a worthless sack of shit, too. That said the yakuza games were shit, except the mahjong minigames.
A few weeks ago I got banned for 3 days after criticizing a reddit screenshot thread. Tribalism or some such nonsense they said.So I have nothing to say about this thread. Keep up the good work, OP.
>>738282820Total chigyu victory.
chigyu bowls are delicious and he was rightfully cancelled for speaking out against it.
If what you do is dependent on money it's not worth doing.
>>738282820Yakuza 7's popularity turned the English speaking fanbase into a bunch of insufferable trannies
>>738282820Gang of Dragon isn't actually cancelled yet
>>738282820Wow I'm shocked that the subreddit that thinks Infinite Wealth has the best writing in the series and that generic shounen tropes about never giving up are powerful insightful commentary about life has dogshit opinions
“I will honour Christmas in my heart, and try to keep it all the year.” “You may be an undigested bit of beef, a blot of mustard, a crumb of cheese, a fragment of an underdone potato. There's more of gravy than of grave about you, whatever you are!”
>>738282820>without the backing of a huge corporation with your own studioIt's almost like every known name in the industry is just an ideas guy in management and the actual hard work is done by the codemonkeys, sound designers, and visual artists
>>738282820They were never his fans. They were only fans of his "brand".
>>738287049>>738282820What plastic surgery procedure gives you a giant swollen skull?
>>738287216This unironically. The millenial mind getting into parasocial relationships with creators cannot comprehend this.
>>738282820Can't he just find someone else to fund the rest of his game?
>>738287940Netease owns his studio so he would have to find someone to buy out the entire thing
>>738282820I don't know how a Japanese can still be conned by Chinese, in this day and age.
>>738282820>openly hate people who actually like video games>fail at making video games Deserved!
>>738288270>openly hate people who actually like video games?
>>738282820>What went so wrong?Wen live in a dystopian future where corporations are controlling everything and people are their blind cattle.
>>738282820the chigyu have gotten their revenge
>>738288331why do you think everyone in this thread is talking about chigyus
>>738288542I was confused by "people"
>>738282820>try to create a new franchise without the backing of a huge corporation with your own studioIt was literally the same game he's been making for the past 20 years, but with a fatter main character. Mf should've gone back to Monkey Ball.
>>738288637He called everyone who likes Puyo a chigyu. If basic bitch anime art style and puzzle gameplay is worth insulting then you don't like video games on a fundamental level and should not be making them.
>>738289251There is demand for non-gay Yakuza games
Yakuza franchise only works because it's backed by a big publisher, without it Yakuza is just cringe shit, not even cringe kino just cringe shit.
>>738289764>there is demandClearly not enough demand to actually get one made.
>>738289885it was netease being retarded again
>>738289827How does having a big publisher make it less cringe
>>738282820No one knows what the fuck he actually does, even more so than Kojimbo.
>>738290095He came up with the basic formula for the franchise which was enhanced Shenmue
>>738282820>without the backing of a huge corporationWhere do you think he got the 40m from? And where did he go with "lol, I spent all the money, give me another 44m"?
>>738283009>>738283134>>738283380>>738283650>>738287216>>738287917>>738288331Your own fault for pretending that a garbage rip-off from a company that only produces GaaS would work.Yakuza is fine and will keep living on, even with hiccups like K3.Cooooope.
>>738290006Yeah, they were retarded for initially funding him. Guy burned through the entire budget without having anything to show for it. Which is why he wasn't given anymore money and why nobody else offered to pick up the project either.
>>738290249>company that only produces GaaSThey produced Suda51s latest slop
>>738288364Nobody is stopping you from funding him.
>>738283009Reddit has most transsexuals than 4chan per capita, so it's to be expected. Not that 4chan can't be fake and gay sometimes.
>>738290249>even with hiccups like K3.Tell me you actually like the direction IW and Pirate Yakuza has taken with the franchise
>>738290139>"Dude what if we made shenmue but like yakuza"what an auteur, no wonder why his new idea of "dude what if we actually made GTA but japan" didn't work.
>>738290249Yeah I can't wait for Yakuza 9 to just be a One Piece ripoff for the third time in a row.
>>738290416>GTA but japanSounds kino unironically
>>738290358>implying I'm notBtw, when people fund certain games (((they))) don't like, they use payment companies to sabotage it.I hope that you die burning, filthy satanist.
Damn OP wasn't joking, Yakuza fans really do hate this guy for some reason
Wholesome quirk chungus bros we can't stop winning
>>738290528>yes I want more open world slop GTA cloneDoesn't sound like kino actually
>>738282820People, also known as "the vulgar", will sooner forget the death of their father than the loss of their inheritance. The moment you no longer provide, the moment you no longer have anything to offer, the moment you are at your weakest, that is when the daggers are unsheathed and set upon your back.Learn that and never forget it.
>>738283584What a retarded thing to say
It's retarded how this fanbase is either or.Can I both not like the current direction of Yakuza while not believing that this botox yakuza larp created everything good about Yakuza.
>>738282820He spent money poorly. What do you expect people to do, praise you?
>>7382907017 was unironically great and I'm tired of pretending otherwise.
>>738290709>more open world slop GTA cloneYou act like GTA clones are something that still get made
>>738290786long ass Jordan Peterson blabber just to say "If you haven't made something good for a while, people are going to think you haven't made something good for a while"
>>7382909817 was good except for that extremely cringe part. 8 was complete reddit dogshit however
>>738282820People always praise Nagoshi but his "magnum opus" (considering Gang of Dragon will probably never be made), Lost Judgment, has an awful story that makes no sense.
>>738291032Pirate Yakuza and Dark Ties made more sense than 8 and that's saying a lot
>>738291032It started off well with Ichiban, Nanba and Adachi and got worse with every additional party member
>>738290701>We are the Yakuza 7I walked out of the theater
>>738290310I heard it was some culture thing like japs always go into a project lowballing things and expecting to be able to ask for more funds later
>>738282820I'm making chigyu in his honor
>>7382910328 and beyond should’ve all had different MCs. It felt like Ichiban got a complete story that would be difficult to top.
>>738291215Lost Judgment and Infinite Wealth both had no idea what to do with their protagonists so they just flanderized them and made them preachy and annoying
>>738290993You act like those clones were ever above generic.Watchdogs is pure ass, Saints Row is mostly ass, Sleeping dogs is generic.Those clones couldn't surpass GTA, and GTA is just an "something for everyone" game with fuck you budget, it's not some kind of magnum opus that every game dev should aim towards.If I want to play GTA, I'll just play GTA. If you are going to spend fuck loads of cash making something, make something original.
>>738282820I believe Gang of Dragon will be released, although with a lot of cut content
>>738282820his last good game was yakuza 2
>>738282820>try to create a new franchise without the backing of a huge corporation with your own studio>The "new franchise" was just Yakuza with a Korean guy>NetEase is apparently not a huge corporation
>>738292937>was just Yakuza with a Korean guyIt was probably gonna be more like Yakuza 1-6 before it was turned into a shounen anime
>>738292937Sega was pushing Nagoshi into an executive oversight role and he likes actually being involved in game development.
>>738292937Net Ease definitely has the money to make not Yakuza. They felt like he scammed them by asking for a bigger budget midway through production, so they decided it would be better if the game wasn't what he wanted it to be than to spend tens of millions more making it.
>>738290981Your mentor should shoot you in the chest for thinking that.
>>738282820>trusted chinese>they throw you away like garbage after acquiring your assets, code etc.Lol lmao, this is why nobody trust chinese they are just better at doing business and cut off anything useless to them
>>738282820>What went so wrong?He targeted Chigyus and got what he deserved
>>738283075When hasn't yakuza been wholesome chungus since 2? It's a franchise for white washing actual yakuzas
>>738291171Sounds like a cope excuse. Reality is that, just like any other race, some jap bigwigs are out of touch and/or old boomers so they massively underestimate how much time and money they need to do something so they either run out of budget, take too long, or both.
>>738294053What a comfy looking apartment. Just moved into the new place for fall semester feeling.
>>738282820I hope he wins in the end
>>738292306Lost Judgment was good, which was his last game
>>738282820This nigga looks zesty.
>>738282820>Yakuza 5 remasteredKek
>>738282820Objectively? He openly talked shit about a company that his bosses had a good relationship with.
>>738283508this, i tried one from sukiya for the first time and it's pretty goode
>>738299542Who did he talk shit about?
>>738300727Nintendo. He was the main reason why Yakuza games weren't ported to their platform because of how poorly 1&2 HD sold on the Wii U and if I remember right he was against some other games being ported to Nintendo platforms just because of the demographic difference.
>>738291325Didn't have to. There must have been a way to drive home the message without but Sawa-sensei! Something like making Yagami the I know it's not fair but justice must be served guy
>>738282820Why won't Suck Madong foot the bill? He is famous and successful enough to have his own action film franchise like Vin Diesel, and Kojima casted him for a guest role in Death Stranding 2, and presumably supporting role in Physint.
>>738300841Damn they hated him because he spoke the truth...
>>738282820It's on him. He spent too much in the cabaret club and on various positions in the luxury outlet Don Quixote.
>>738291325>>>738296513Well? Which one is it
>>738300957I mean yeah, but don't be a retard and say it openly.
>>738300894There were, they just didn't do it. There were multiple arguments they could have had Yagami use in addition to Sawa but refused to so they could have that dumb Kaito line of "Is there really a right answer?" and make him morally gray and an anti-hero.>Could have easily brought up Eri and how a flawed system caused her death but Yagami didn't lose hope and sought justice regardless of how insurmountable it was since the entire deck was stacked against him.>Could have brought up the fact that in over a decade no one knows the Bully Hunter™ is even a thing and that he's so low on the totem pole no one even knows he's a serial killer because he doesn't publicize his kills. They just thought these people disappeared one day.>Could have brought up that he has ruined Japan's future by proxy.>Could have easily brought up the fact that outside of Sawa's death he has tried to let Yagami die not once (Apartment), not twice (Ship explosion), but three times (Warehouse) simply because he wanted to expose Kuwana's murders ergo Kuwana is just murdering for the sake of his ego instead of the justice for the innocent as he preaches.>Could have easily brought attention to him not using Kusumoto's son's suicide attempt to pivot to an awareness campaign with the parents of his school and the nation instead of sitting quietly and being branded a cold-hearted teacher who let the bullying happen under his blessing.>Could have brought up the fact that despite the fact Mamiya having bullied Kusumoto's son that doesn't mean it's right to ruin her husband's and child's lives just because of the sins of the mother. That's just ruining innocent lives which Kuwana supposedly stands against.Yagami was laser focused on Sawa for the same reason he was on Eri, but the way they handled the entire story was done so half-hearted because they wanted to hammer that specific point home when you could crucify him on so many issues and flaws in his logic.
>>738282934Yakuza
>>738287203Welcome to world
>>738287203Kojima made it work
>>738288364Started with the industrialization of the us. Before you had european monarchies wrecking havoc around the world.
>>738282820A dev is only as good as their last game, you know that.
>>738288387>>738288542Excuse moi, le qrd
>>738282820I still have faith
>>738282820>most influential videogames of all timeSuch as...?
Maybe he could have aimed a little lower in terms of cost and scope for this first independent game?
Stranger than Heaven details today, are we hyped?
>>738289885These games should come out annually and not must not be expensive. Them shifting from a yearly release didn't do them any good.
>>738290310How much>>738291171If its Japanese it has its own word or kanji. Doubt that's true.
>>738301489Yeah, and all he needed was the backing of a multi-billion corporation who could provide him a small budget of $100 million (not including marketing) and connections to nearly every single actor and actress. That aside, Kojima was likeable enough to have nearly all of his old employees follow him to Kojima Studios, something that most likely didn't happen with chigyu-man.
>>738291326Ridiculous how some obscure flash game got one innovation right and since then rocked the vidya industry for 20 years with like 7 titles at most.
>>738301678Yakuza is one of the oldest and largest franchises
>>738301937He already vaporized 44m. How?
>>738282820i can't hate this niggahe made daytona usa 2 and super monkey balli hope he can keep scaming the chinks
>>738282820I mean, have you seen the promotional "gameplay" images of his new game? They look ai-generated or scripted.
>>738302162Huge doubt that he actually spent all that on the game. Snuck in quite a few fancy dinners with some washed up JAV stars I'm sure.
>>738301489Kojima basically somehow became a Z-list celebrity internationally, so that probably helped
>You can't just eat cheese and beef, that's friggin CHILDISH! Why? Erm, well... it just is, okay????
>>738290383Infinite Wealth is the best turn based JRPG ever made
>>738301179Lost Judgment was a good game with a shitty main character, just like Infinite Wealth
>>738283009your breath smells soo fucking bad
>>7383011799/10, just select moments that make you go>that was kinda dumb>that could have easily been cooler
>>738301373Why is Sugiura more popular than Kaito? That's some bullshit
>>738301489Death Stranding is barely successful and it sure as shit isn't because of it's mediocre gameplay
>>738301829I think Stranger Than Heaven will at least be the most impressive game they've made just from a game design standpoint, I don't think they've ever spent this long on a project before
>>738282820>>try to create a new franchiseyou mean the same game he already made like 7 times again for an 8th time?
>>738301937Nagoshi actually took a lot of the old talent with him to the new studio
>>738302162It's a completely made up number
>>738302938IW actually has my favorite turn based combat. It's the creative decisions I can't stand
>>738282820The Yakuza series was just Shenmue with homo gangsters. It wasnt influential since no one copied the formula
>>738303682>since no one copied the formulaThey really should have
>>738282820Nothing. PuyoCHADS, we won.
>>738303682Which is weird because Yakuza is a much cheaper formula than copying something like GTA
>>738303574They seem to be using some of the animation tech from the new VFGod knows the series needed an overhaul
Wasn't this the guy who was literally taking bribes from Sony while conveniently refusing to port anything to Nintendo?
>>738303748Yeah, him and Harada from Bamco. Both are gone from their respective companies now, though. I don't expect anything to really change if that's what you're hoping.
>>738282820I know that people are acting under 7-8 layers of ironic shitposting but i really liked the korean actor, i was watching his movies and waiting for the game to come out. I like yakuza games and i was waiting for this one with the premise of enjoying 2 cakes. It actually bums me out that the game got cancelled .
>>738303747It's their first game that's exclusive to current gen consoles so hopefully it's a technological jump like dragon engine was
>sides with the asian jew>gets jewed
>>738303925Don Lee movies are pure kino
>>738282820The guy that said "The Man Who Erased His Game" got a chuckle out of me
>>738301829I'm excited to play as Kazama in 1965
>>738303747Is there even any footage of the new Virtua Fighter yet?
>>738302886All rich c level execs steal.
>>738303628Welcome to world economics
>>738304675https://youtu.be/XcdGjc6FLOo
>>738304805Shame that it's a dead genre
>>738304710Sure but some do it in moderation while others get too greedy. I'm willing to bet Nagoshi is on the greedy side.
>>738293230Sounds like idealized bullshit, I'm pretty sure SEGA wanted him off from all the publicity jobs after the Chigyu incident, but botox man wanted be in the lime light (or else his botox goes to waste), so he quit hoping that he could be like Kojimbab.If he can be an executive, he definitely had the freedom to reject that and stay as a creative, quitting just because of that sounds unrealistic.
>>738303741How do PuyoGODS keep winning?
>>738303682If you actually played Shenmue you'd know Yakuza is nothing like Shenmue.Shenmue is a point and click adventure with brawler minigame, while Yakuza is an RPG with a brawler combat.Shenmue definitely influenced Yakuza with stuff like side activities, but Yakuza isn't "literally Shenmue", I wouldn't even say that it is a spiritual successor.
>>73830532This was a Nagoshi game
>>738283009>reddit is so fucking transFTFY
>>738305327This was such a good game. Why did it all go to shit the second Nagoshi left?
LJ is fun to play, IW isn't, that's all that matters really
Hey there everyoneIt's me quirky chungus memejimaBuy my new game in which I become a spaceman and I have to pretend kiryu's alive like it's weekend at bernie's by using his body in combat
>>738305716Nah IW is basically the only JRPG with good combat. Come on man. Criticize it for the real reasons it sucks like the awful writing or shoving a half baked survival crafting game in the middle of it
>>738305785Holy fucking kino
Your average NPC is a douchebag
>>738306141Shenmue NPCs are thriving
>>738305327Sega really did pressure them into making Lost Judgment and Y7 into being more like Persona
>>738304973Me: How do you know?>meanwhile nagoshi feeds the families of two face surgeons alone for over a decade now
>>738306003Game itself is unbearable, while it did nail the jrpg combat or improved it significantly.>>738305703I doubt he would've helped much. Kiryu has to go.>capcom: Leon can be 80 years old and sexy and strong
>>738287761those are just excess ideas he has that havent been executed yet. its genius thing you wouldnt get it.its probably scalp botox or injections.
>>738282820Why did he photoshop his face irl?
>>738306619>Kiryu has to go.I would rather have them continue with Kiryu as an old man than another quirky Ichiban story. What do you want to happen? A total reboot seems like the best option honestly
I wish someone would shot up the reddit HQ (in minecraft)
>>738306619Leon was the best part of RE9?
>>738306807>another quirky IchibanBoth Ichiban and Kiryu need to fuck off and die. Either to (relapsed) cancer or stabbed in the dirty alleys of Detroit.
>>738307287Agreed. I want Stranger Than Heaven to be the new jumping off point for lad9 and future games
Yakuza cultivated the reddit audience by leaning too heavily into quirky lolrandum humor.
Nanba Gaidnen when?
>>738282820Gang of Fqggot
>>738282820>refuses to adapt to the current console landscape in Japan>Causes huge loses for his employer>Gets fired>Goes to a chink corpo>refuses to adapt to the current console landscape in Japan>Causes huge loses for his employer>Gets firedlol>try to create a new franchise without the backing of a huge corporation with your own studioWhat do you think Netease is, negro?
>>738305527
>>738309000You're half right, the yakuza ports to pc in the late 10s convinced Sega to pivot to pc as a main platform.
>>738282820No because he can actually make good games
>>738282820My goat
>>738282820Sorry that was me
Why didn't he just spend money responsibly bros
>>738309000This is retarded because the yakyza franchise literally blew up and became more popular than ever under him
>>738303364People like the pretty boy over the gorilla.
>>738301373Why didn't he just bring up his parents? Surely that should be the ultimate card he has against vigilantism
>>738313559Kaito got the only happy ending so im good
yakuza is a fun game the first time you play it but its the same gameplay same story beats and the same jokes in every yakuza game I don't get the appeal
>>738313735I felt the same way for years but eventually it just clicked
>>738313678Yagami probably just keeps on doing his own thing, seems like he's not involved in country wide conspiracies anymore
>>738282820western "fans" are not humansimple as
>>738282820He wasn't actually fully in charge of game outside of Judgment and Lost Judgment, people don't seem to fully realize that.
>>738282820Nagoshi chads will have the last laugh
>play games as they release>literally bought 2 on release, had to endure through almost not getting 3 with the worst back and forth imaginable, the ass western cover with the red background and kiryu's half shot shitty render looking at your face with the cut hostess minigame because of course>"damn this game kind of sucks compared to the previous one huh">keep playing the series as they release>nooootice how the tone of yakuza games slowly changed after 2 (ps2) starting with 3 to be gradually more lighthearted and memey>nooootice how the stories are more and more retarded with every entry>"you're just parroting youtuber opinions, games were always like that" (proceeds to post the one [1] clip from the one [1] yakuza 2 diaper substory)>fast forward to today>yakuza is regarded as a wholesome hecking chungus r*ddit franchisereally nogging my jogging over here
>>738314307Gacha image, post invalid
>>738282820Deserved it. But honestly can still feel bad for him.Maybe next time don't work with people who can pull your funding in a matter of minutes when your entire future relies on it.
>>738315239He cannot spend money in a way that prevents that. He is a spendthrift.
>>738282820He's my favorite idea guy
>>738282820>whitoidsNot real fans and he's not concerned with the opinions of subhuman foreigners.
>>738305785I would play this. 10/10 idea
Yakuza flopped in the West>Yakuza blew up as memes on the internet for western audiences.The sales tell a different story and are tepid and worse entry after entry, Japan and Asia are indeed the majority of sales and that share seems to increase game after game (despite overall sales being lower overall)https://www.installbaseforum.com/forums/threads/bloomberg-netease-to-stop-funding-nagoshi-studio-as-it-cuts-back-on-gaming.4452/page-2#post-406650>sales in Japan and Asia seem to have made up a big part of this momentum, as Yokoyama notes, “The game is incredibly strong in Japan. Sales in (the rest of) Asia are also quite strong, but the momentum in Japan is even greater than in the past.”https://automaton-media.com/en/news/like-a-dragon-infinite-wealth-dev-surprised-by-unprecedented-speed-of-sales-and-big-change-in-sales-pattern/
>>738301489He took all the good programmers in his team with him on the divorce
>>738316234Yakuza deserves shitty sales. If it would have a kick ass story and a setting that is generally liked in the west, they could sell millions per entry.
>>738302036It's also one of the largest car manufacturers and moons of the earth.
>>738282820Please god let this come out holy shit fuck modern fagkuza
>>738316234I used to think this poster was a fag, but after Kiwami 3, I'm fine with him.
>>738283009As if /v/ doesn't do the exact same shit. Stop being a fucking little faggot nigger, or better yet, just do everyone a favor and kill yourself. Then at least your parents' biggest mistake will be fixed so you'll have done some good for the world you fucking retarded monkey.
>>738320089The tolerant Redditor.
>>738282820>Quit SEGA midway while making Judgement games (we were supposed to get 5 games instead of 2 but he quit)>Went with giant Chink publisher>3-4 years and the game hasn't finished yet>Chink publisher decided to go all in on domestic game studios and cut their losses on overseas studios>Nagoshi closes his own studioHe deserves it when he shilled the new localizations of the remasters that butchered the translation, ruining Sakura Wars, and making fun of Puyo chads.
>>738315083Doro is a national treasure.
>>738320519>we were supposed to get 5 gamesI didn't need to know this information. Finna kms, rn...
>>738290549>won't fund itThought so.
>>738320519>(we were supposed to get 5 games instead of 2 but he quit)
