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What's the consensus
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>>738292815
Yuna is perfect in the first game, a whore in the sequel.
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DOGSHIT MINIGAMES!
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>>738292815
Yunalesca boss fight is a tad too difficult for new players. They should remake that game easier though.
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>>738292815
Overrated as fuck
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>>738292815
Underrated as fuck
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KINO
https://youtu.be/MwawFVauUU4
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>>738292815
Rated as fuck
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>>738292815
Good, but there are a few times I'd like to skip cutscenes and can't. (Well, I think they finally created a mod for it a while back for PC)
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>>738292815
Shit/10.
>No real overworld.
>Most dungeons are hallways.
>All the side content sucks.
>Most of the post-game sucks.
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>>738293382
>white people when there’s no overworld map that has 98% of the space empty
I sleep
>white people when there’s 3 pathways in a dungeon and one of them has a chest and the other has a rarer chest
WHO UP?
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>>738293313
Nah, I for one had a lot of fun hearing
>Your hope ends here... and your meaningless existence with it!!
Ten times over
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>>738293382
>The whole game is a fucking -, big whoop.
That's JRPGs for you.
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>>738292851
And that's a good thing, actually.
Yuffie is even sluttier.
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>>738292815
Great, fantastic even. My favorite FF but for some reason zoomers cant stand this game
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Music 10/10
Gameplay 8/10
Characters 9/10
Story 10/10
Replayability 7/10
Visuals 9/10
Voice acting 7/10
Endgame 8/10
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>>738292815
Great turn based combat and visuals. Everything else ranges from serviceable to terrible.
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>>738292815
It's FF XIII but good
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>>738293979
The story wasn’t really that good. Theres lots of times in the game where im literally so bored because it’s the stupidest writing ive ever seen. Like it’s so stupid dude hes named after Christianity shit, that’s just lame. Lol defeat sin and bring the calm, that’s a hard metaphor for new players who haven’t studied Masonic and illuminate order of the 33rd degree Masonic symbolism in ps2 games. Like I have. Also the calms fucking stupid as hell, everyone probably would be working even longer hours to feed all the gigabreeders lol if you were you in spira you’d be cheering for Seymour. He’s the good guy actually.
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>>738294213
>named after Christianity
Sin as a concept was something used by religions way older than that, like Hinduism over hundreds maybe thousands of years earlier.
In fact, the clothing, writing and politheistic thing over worshipping different fayth statues in each town makes this way resemble pajeet culture more than anything christian.
Outside of Luca and Bevelle which are capitals and touristic hotspots, all the other towns you visit are dogshit backwater villages where people live in huts and surround around campfires. Tifus is a pampered zoomer isekai sent to a third world planet. There's even burglary and kidnapping at some point in the story to prove that, not to mention you start the game being held hostage and doing forced labor for thieves.
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>>738294062
The combat isn’t really all that well designed. You just end up spamming square to win. If you grind xp for even 1 second your character is already overpowered. It’s well produced, the mechanics of it are pretty good. Probably actually perfect, although im not going to call it perfect. But it’s like pretty good okay, they didn’t do anything weird with the camera like most other turn based games like DQ or others. You can see the action order, which is literally only in that game. I think the active atb system actually is slightly better, it’s more skill without any drawbacks. It lets you delay your turn basically, x just uses a wait mode atb system instead. It’s a worse system. Elemental weaknesses also are pretty stupid, that’s like a very entry level design philosophy, very very simplistic. Theres lots of better ways to make spell counters a viable balance strategy.
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>>738294658
FFX is a game about going to Brazil
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>>738294814
>wait Auron, I'm not ready yet AAAAAHHH
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>>738294658
Nah it’s actually a cuckolding metaphor. Sin is destroying the world. To call that a “sin”, it’s a joke. Because everyone would want to destroy this world, that’s the logical decision. It’s saying “god is having fun here, too bad for you. Your opinion doesn’t matter, only gods pleasure is important. You are breaking the rules if you disagree”. Which is a very Christian commentary to make, they do that type of subliminal cuckolding metaphor pretty much all the time.
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>>738294213
Retarded americuck schizo botpost
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>>738292815
HA HA HA HA HA HA
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>>738295071
You'd be right if this was played through unironically, however it's the game's big twist how the religion, the supposed god and those who control it are just a secret cabal of suspicious old men (so old in fact they should've already been dead, and they actually are) controlling the world and fooling the masses, which in turn makes this way more accurate to be about Judaism instead
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Best final fantasy. I was here when /v/ was shitting on this from 06-08. You fags were unironically spiteful towards Tidus because he's an athlete who has personality flaws and unresolved trauma, but ultimately it's the athlete part that got to you.
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>>738295071
You are mentally ill.
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>>738294213
The sheer retardation of every word of this post is astounding. How is it possible to be this wrong about anything?
>>738292815
If it makes a difference I'd argue it has the best story of any final fantasy. It has some good fights but its otherwise standard jrpg fair. It is super linear but the environments look great still and if youre enjoying the story it keeps things interesting, it's well paced. Don't play the remake.
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>>738292815
emulate it
do NOT play HD
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>>738295346
Chuds hate Tidus because he is a Chad and this is established from the very beginning and he never stops being one.
Yes he is a manbaby and got daddy issues. Still, he is the party leader, he plays college ball and bangs the cutest girl in class.
Virgin nerds can't relate to him.
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>>738292815
First, no one likes Blitzball. Second, the tasks implemented for final game best in slot items are trivial and usually designed to be frustrating for the average player rather than something creative and engaging, like overcoming a specific super difficult battle and perhaps a decent puzzle per celestial weapon and their corresponding item inserts. Instead what we are left with is hours of blitzball, lighting dodging, chocobo racing etc.

All in all though, this game is one of the greats. 9.5/10
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I got to the part where you find out sin is tidus's dad and thought it was so dumb I didn't bother playing ever again after reaching the next save point.
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>>738295483
Tidus isn’t a chad, haha. They had to give tidus feminine features, to make him more relatable to the average gamer. Real chad genes actually look more like leon. And, they’re much rarer than tidus phenotype. Yunas also not really that pretty, and wasn’t meant to be. Lol apparently dude, apparently it makes uglier guys not buy the game, if the character looks like leon. Because it makes them feel sooo bad about themselves.
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The story is great, music is great. The battles were tedious and not that fun but at least it was easy enough that you dont have to grind
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Wasn't the Yevon religion a Zanarkand thing? Why did Belville end up being the capital of the religion
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>>738295518
Skill issue. Have you looked up a guide? There’s a correct way to do these puzzles. You’re probably just trying to force your way into the reward, without doing it by procedure. Speedrunners get it their first try because they practiced how to do it.
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>>738296137
My negro, Cloud showed up almost 4 years earlier being even gayer and got not one but TWO chicks falling for him.
Look at k-pop stans. Girls love fags, you'remissing the forest for the lame handful trees simping for Leon but will forget him as soon as the next flavor of the week game drops.
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>>738292815
Kino/10
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>>738296323
Nope, the religion was followed by everyone. What caused the division was merely a war between two countries, and then the guys at Bevelle bullshitted Zanarkand's technology and HDI as something to blame for the nuke so they could keep humanity in a cultural leash back to being third world cavemen so they're easier to control and prevent rebellion to topple their theocracy regime.
Everyone thinks Zanarkand is the only technological place in the world but during the marriage scene it turns out Bevelle is hoarding a lot of futuristic shit hidden inside.
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>>738296425
Kpop stars are designed by a corporation, so are JRPG stories, for the purpose of selling products. Ive studied physical attractiveness, cloud and tidus are designed to look that way to increase sales. They look like slightly pretty, but average men. That’s not what peak male form looks like, they’re missing a large jaw. The large jaw is literally what makes guys not buy the game lol. Because it’s so unfair, lots of guys don’t have the large jaw it’s probably like 1 in 50 men who have it. Everyone else is like shit tier humans sadly. Thats why leon is such a rare character design, they literally sell less copies of the game because men feel inferior.
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>>738292815
great music, horrible everything else
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>>738296425
Well three, right? But one is crazy, one dies, and he’s not really sure of who is he is which is the entire fucking point of the game.
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>>738296396
That's not the point i'm making. Its, not, fun. It's a chore, and an arduous one at that, and it is 100% a skill issue. That's the point.

This game could have been greater if there were actually intuitive challenges, not grind fest trial and error. Fucking frustrating, and i never go for all celestials for that reason.
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>>738296847
Goes to show how hot he was to these girls despite looking gay, or because of it.
To the point he didn't even need a personality or even being built. He is such a femboy he passed for a girl at Corneo's, not just the fat dude but even his grunts got horny for Cloud being a twinky trap.
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He really is leaning upward quite a bit for some reason and you can't really tell without rotating the cover counter-clockwise and cutting out a section of it.
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Why did they make Wakka such an unlikeable character, his lines are all either complaining about how something isn't following the teachings of yevon or him being racist. His accent just made him sound ridiculous
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>>738296983
He is made to be a meathead republican unc who just watches news and NFL all day before grinding at work and blames the nigs for ruining everything. Pretty accurate stuff, too bad he doesn't have a beer gut too.
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HOW THE FUCK ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO DO THIS CHOCOBO RACING? YES, I AM SEETHING!
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>>738292851
>Yuna is a disgusting horseface in the first game, the same in the sequel
ftfy
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>>738297265
You just keep doing it, and you don't fuck it up, and then somehow at one point it just works.
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>>738292815
Dunno, but whatever it is my opinion is the opposite of that
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>>738296983
Chapu is literally “chap, who?”. It’s not that funny. I actually just don’t find tim funny.
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>>738292851
The sequel is just terrible all around. Spira's entire world order has been turned upside down, with Yuna being one of the ones directly responsible, and she's just a JPop idol who does SE's lame misconception of mercenary work on the side. The world building is so broken and empty. X-2 was really the end of FF as a series with some sense of dignity and through line, and is why you get retards who go, "Well, what really is a Final Fantasy game anyways? They are all so different from each other."
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>>738297401
He is sad about losing his bro but not really, because he's been waking up to those huge saggy blitzballs on his face every day and Chap didn't want to share
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>>738293382
final fantasy 10 was the hallway game, peak linearity, before final fantasy 13
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>>738294658
>>738294213
>Christianity
close but it's Gnosticism, Japanese have an hard on for Gnosticism.
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>>738296983
Racism comes in all shapes and sizes. And these are simple people. The world ended. Remember?
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>>738297795
It's more of a pantheistic approach where pagan gods of all myths coexist at the same time in some sort of Marvel multiverse.
Their approach to gnosticism is way shallower than the Xeno series and Megaten. Every attempt at blaming FF as "the RPG where the spiky haired hero defeats God" falls flat on its face because none of the antagonists across all 16 games and counting ever managed to effectively be the creator god. The only one who managed to actively seek and portray actual gnosticism with a Demiurge was Lightning Returns.
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>>738292815
Amazing game. A simple battle system done well, allowing them to add an iconic leveling system and a customisation system without it feeling cluttered. The story is great, and the interplay between the cast of characters keeps things interesting while you learn more about the really well-designed setting.

I know it's divisive, but I LOVE the fact that X-2 exists. It feels like an entire expanded epilogue about how the world changes after Sin is defeated. I'm not a fan about how complicated it is to get 100% in X-2, but I think it was a good choice to mix things up for the sequel.

Overall, wonderful, formative games for me.
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>>738298248
X-2 delivers what most jar pigs never bother elaborating upon: what happens to the world you saved after the credits roll.
It's nice seeing life going on and how things change as civilization resumes their mundane activities after the epic journey and world-saving antics become a thing of the past. Gives a bit of a 4th wall breaking feeling like they are living characters and not just characters in a storybook, because the story is over but they continue living.
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How did they get away with some of these outfits
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>>738292815
Consensus is highly volatile controversy averaging out at mildly positive.

I don't give a shit about that.
X: Killed Final Fantasy.
X-2: Great fun, but systems wasted on no difficulty.
X-2.5: Popcorn central
X-3: I really want to play Chuami's game.
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It's FFVII but good
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>>738299235
No "ethics department" at the time.
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>>738292815
it's a good game overall but it has the most overrated turn based combat system of all time. I don't see the big deal
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>>738292815
It doesn't resemble Final Fantasy in any way, shape or form.
It threw everything established in the previous games under a bus.

It's very well presented, and the music by Hamauzu and Nakano is outstanding. But the gameplay and writing are awful.
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>>738292815
only women like X and XIII for a reason



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