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What do they consume for sustenance
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>>738294138
Food grown on the mainland. Fish.
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>>738294138
fish, cocaine, filtered ocean water
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>>738294076
that's not V
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>>738294324
thats a shit one too
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>>738294076
Felt huge as a kid, but I was content to just fuck around on the beaches or at the mall. Many fond memories of doing nothing but playing Vice City for two weeks straight while home with Chicken Pox. Based teacher even marked me as present the entire time I was gone and I had no make up work.
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>>738294076
It's hilarious how crude Vice City's map is compared to III and SA.
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>>738294076
vice city is really this small? where do ppl live?
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>>738294798
>>738294639
The game gets away with it, by having several graphic and gameplay tricks to make it seem way bigger than it actually is
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>>738294798
Playing them back to back, it does feel noticeably smaller and less interesting than GTA 3's map. Also the fact that you don't have to memorize the entire map makes it less memorable. And it's even smaller than it looks since almost a quarter of the map is just empty beach with nothing there.
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>>738294076
I dont think the map is that bad. For one thing, it is very intuitive to navigate. The lack of verticality means that there is no ambiguity when looking at the map. This was sometimes an issue in SA and 3. In SA it can be frusturating driving around the overpasses and raised bridges in Los Santos or San Fierro because the 2D map cannot really indicate all the levels. This isnt an issue in VC. Also, the four bridges in VC means that it is always pretty convenient to get from one side of the map to the other. Finally I think the map has an impressive number of interiors for its size, and even by modern standards. It's a good map. My favorite of the 3 PS2 games. Yeah its really small, but sometimes thats all you need.
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>>738294965
The airport and beach alone looks like they take up 1/3rd of the map. hopefully 6 re-imagines vice for the better
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>>738294076
only gta I've 100% completed. Think of it as a mix of gta and a tony hawk map. Perfect size to do everything
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>>738294798
There's loads of apartments on the east side, mansions in the middle, spic slums near the airport
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>>738294076
Did the rest of the world sink?
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>>738294076
it's small but still a good map
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>>738297008
this
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>>738294076
Why do people dislike it? Haven't played the game since 2009 but I don't remember anything outrageously bad about it other than the last area being less interesting than the first.
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>>738294639
That's Vice City Stories map you dumbass.
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>>738295864
So around 200 people can live there
Nice
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>>738298325
fuck off bethestard
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>>738298325
jej
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>>738298325
>>738298387
stfu
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>>738298528
i saw the ninja turtle meme more than 10 years ago and i still cannot unsee it
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>>738294310
I'd forgotten how horrible the original was.
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>>738294994
This. San Andreas is really overrated. There's also a lot of just dead space. Like 3/4ths of the area around Mt Chiliad (map verticality also fucking sucks navigating around there too) and the town with literally nothing other than the boating school in the top left corner.
>>738298325
Fallout 3 has a better world map
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>>738298528
The city is clogged together and still feels small. Then the big ass barren desert takes up a majority of everything else. I've always hated the map in GTA 5 easily the worst Rockstar map
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>>738299405
>Fallout 3 has a better world map

obvious bethesbait
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>>738299405
both maps are good for their own aesthetics but nv's map is better becsuse it's not as empty
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>>738299405
>Fallout 3 has a better world map
HAHA! Yea dude, the city that's like 80% inaccessible is such great game design
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>>738298325
Home. I know where everything is on the map by now. Would never play it again though since I'm probably the dude with most hours invested on this game and just looking at the map makes me sick from the amount of content related that I consumed. I genuinely don't think there's a person out there with more hours than me at this, not even the severely autistic modders.
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>>738299702
Then you factor in the fact that at least on vanilla gta5 the PS3 version once you finish the game the car spawning system got broken and only the same like 10 vehicles would spawn in the universe lol. So you just get stuck in hell with no good cars around.
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>>738294076
How is that a "worst"?
They didn't have much power available at the time and they managed to use it in a way that allow long drive, and, use the boat and helicopters, along making it bigger with the inner sea.

I have more problem with GTA 5 map having essentially only one city.
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>map becomes more purposefully dishonest as the player character adds locations and details to the map.
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>>738294076
The HD games were not serious games
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>>738300470
They both suck. Bethesda faggot shit for retards
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>>738298325
>Such a barren awful game world, most player recommend skipping 70% of it
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VC was neat and small, every area is unique and memorable
In contrast:
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>>738297998
I'm 100% sure that is Tommy, lol.
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>>738294076
>disregards all the shovelware on ps2 and attacks a game that has several great locations on its map
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>>738299405
>San Andreas is really overrated
>Fallout 3 has a better world map
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>>738306428
GTAIV has one of the best worlds in vidya, you tasteless pleb
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>>738294138
>What do they consume for sustenance
Doesn't need to be explained because the plot isn't centered around a lack of food and water.
Nobody questions where a major city gets it's food from, but if an isolated rusty-metal-shack community packed full of people are shown to never work a day in their lives, people are going to ask questions.
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>>738306663
kike, wop, nigger, etc.
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>>738303152
GTA5 has a lot of wasted empty field/hill space that not even missions cover.
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>>738299405
rape you later saar
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>>738300601
screencap of your total playtime or stfu
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Worst is Saints Row 3 and 4. Especially since 2 has one of the best ones.
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>>738303152
Crazy how the smaller SA map feels bigger
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>>738306870
Because cars are moving super slowly and there's fog hiding everything. The jeet remaster removed the fog and you could see the entire map from Las Santos, ruining the effect.
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>>738306956
Nothing more browncoded than hating IV. Next you'll tell me SA is better lol
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>>738307112
Pretending IV is good is browncoded as hell.
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>>738307175
>no u
Thirdie post
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>>738307112
SA is slightly better
But 3 mogs
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>>738307197
Takes one to know one
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>>738306956
What's going on with posts like this? Why are there no file details?
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>>738308307
>not using any scripts or extensions for imageboards
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>>738306428
Steelport was such an awful map. Completely lifeless compared to SR2's map, it was hard to memorise the city because so much of it was copy-pasted with nothing going on whilst I can still recall Stilwater like the back of my hand.
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>>738306870
I have no problem with empty field, it's a cheap & efficient way to create a vast environment.

>Crazy how the smaller SA map feels bigger
That's because SA used all of it.
GTA 5 use a bunch, but it's very close, so even if the town is big, it doesn't feel like you've travelled at all.
There's also only one city, so it feels like a downgrade

Pic is the ideal size I would have expected for GTA 5, surely half the budget they spent for advertising would have been better spent asking subcontractors to make decoration model.
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>>738294310
Soul
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>>738309859
Nigga the game was made for PS3. This was simply impossible. They actually had to remove 80% of vegetation from the map before release to get it running on PS3 to begin with.
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>>738310286
Got any link about that vegetation claim?
It's proof they should stop catering to consoles as they are inferior platforms.
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>>738310973
Just google it, there's footage from beta versions showing the differences.
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>>738298528
the epitome of soulless
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Mafia 1 map is criminally underrated, especially when the game was released in the same year as Vice City
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>>738294076
The player's time.
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>>738309859
That would have been kino
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>>738294208
Literally all you need.
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>another thread of gta 4 shill nigger blatantly shilling for the worst game in the series while forcing his hatred for gta 5
lol
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>>738294138
cargo planes and cargo boats, they can afford it by exporting cocaine and hookers to the rest of the country
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>>738294639
9 months of dev time and half of it was tard wrangling ray liotta
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>>738294310
What's so bad about this?
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>>738312653
GTA V is the worst game in the series you faggot nigger kill yourself
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>>738294076
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>>738311120
Googling "80% vegetation removed GTA" lead to either ecology articles, or mods to add vegetations.
...or that reddit link, which I don't want as my sole source
https://www.reddit.com/r/GTA/comments/y8bd2w/fun_fact_a_lot_more_vegetation_was_originally/
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me again >>738313287 to be fair, mods about specifically restoring vegetation, are good enough source for me
https://www.gta5-mods.com/maps/beta-vegetation-props-add-on
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>>738313287
I checked the reddit link and yeah basically it's correct, you can see a side by side comparison of the vegetation in the beta vs the final version in it as well
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>>738312801
You have to take a convoluted path to get anywhere, it takes forever because you'll need to back and forth 2 dozen times and it looks visually terrible
>shadow lands
>right next to idealic country side
>right next to mount doom
>right next to cozy port town
>divided in squares
Its a mess. The rework is better but me and my friends call it big gay island in our group, they like it, I still semi-refuse to play there.
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>>738312920
>There's an entire town that serves no purpose except to let you know when the special 1/10000000000 appearance chance island has appeared
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>>738299405
>There's also a lot of just dead space. Like 3/4ths of the area around Mt Chiliad (map verticality also fucking sucks navigating around there too) and the town with literally nothing other than the boating school in the top left corner
Some of my best memories with the game were being in those areas, sometimes having a good atmosphere is enough, the woods felt eerie and isolated, the top left town felt like a nice distraction, something to check out, pure flavor text but interesting nonetheless. No doubt they were planning on doing more with those but just having a handcrafted region to explore for a hour with its own assets and layout can be interesting.
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>>738294138
The fuck you taking about? Its like asking "what do new Yorkers eat? I don't see farms in the city"
Food is imported, through trucks, cargo ships, cargo trains. Vice City is supposed to be set in the US, not a third world country with no transportation systems.
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>>738303152
I'd rather have one bigger city then multiple small ones.
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>>738294076
Could a third island save this mess? I'll settle for for a bigger downtown and a smaller airport
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>>738298325
I'm a sucker for alternative routes and that map is full of them. I had lots of fun with that map with disabled fast travel and a caravan travel mod
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>>738294138
sprunk and burgershots
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>>738298528
dogshit
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>>738294138
Fish
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>>738294076
This map was very cool for its time. Its small but it had a lot of things in it. It also has a cool chainsaw hidden in Scarface Motel that would make blood pour in the screen if you killed someone with it.
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>>738294076
They cobbled this together in a little under a year and it's one of the most soulful games in existence.
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>>738312306
Why is a khezu vomiting into the ocean
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>>738298528
i never understood what was supposed to be north of LS. I live in LA and nothing north or east of LA looks like that. That region looks like oregon or some other state. Was a weird decision for sure.
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>>738319550
Lol I wanted to post this but I thought the bait would be too obvious
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>>738294310
this is your brain on minecraft

>>738312801
It was designed like a private server. This is the area now after over a decade of updates. They're about to release a final update later this year
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>>738312920
At least the girls in it are hot
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>>738322318
did they never get around to reworking Lovakenj and Arceuus?
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>>738294076
No, it good map and better than GTA III nap
>>738303152
GTA v problem to that cars are fast so the map feel small
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>>738306665
Only retards ask those questions. You're totally fine with ghouls and super mutants but them not having farms is a bridge too far? It's literally a meme fnv fags use to say their glorified dlc is better than the original game.
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>>738320173
Yeah it really did have a white trash east of the cascades middle of nowhere vibe, no clue why they went with that; i'd rather have just flat desert
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elden shart
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Gay and boring as fuck.
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The really outrageous part is they wanted to add swimming but they rushed the game so hard that they didn't.
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>>738298528
A masterclass in "we want a map that's big on paper but really we want to make only 1/4 of it and make the rest as useless as possible."
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I would rather have GTA games with smaller maps but make it so you can actually enter most buildings
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>>738327901
Red Dead 1/2
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Ghost Recon Wildlands
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>>738294076
That's not Mafia
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>>738308513
It's the reverse retard. The gook broke 4chan-X.
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>>738312446
dream map
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>>738298528
Amogus drip
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>>738294076
Fuck off with your contrarian bullshit. Vice City has one of the best maps in vidya.
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>>738298528
yep



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