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Will it have any games though?
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>valve
>games
it's been 19 years since HL2 E2
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Only all of them.
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>>738305857
>no left 4 dead 3 as launch title
dead on arrival
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>>738305857
>linux
no, no it wont.
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>>738306232
It's not 2012 Anon. Most PC games work on Linux.
https://www.protondb.com/explore
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>>738306308
>work
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>>738306308
oh nonono nobody tell him
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>>738306585
Yes, work. On Arch, and 302 of my 308 games work perfectly. Several run better than on Windows.
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Steam Machine will come with HL3 pre-installed as a surprise. This is how Valve will sweeten the deal for the high hardware price. The game will be released on Steam shortly after. Screenshot this.
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>>738306810
ur delusional if you think that
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>>738306810
HL3 already came out
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>>738306810
Not putting it on Steam right out of the box is idiotic
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>>738306718
Saary you redeemed the AMD.
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>>738307376
Only my CPU.
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>>738305857
Their target audience is retarded Steam fan boys who don't mind buying overpriced junk.

Such people already have a library full of games.

That's why there is zero need to ship any games with a console.

Even if they wanted to, they wouldn't ship anything with it. Why? Because Valve releases games when they're so far ahead in terms of novelty. The problem is you can't possibly release a breathtaking game on such shit hardware. They are limited by their shitty overpriced junk that has what again, something like a 4060 with 6gb or 8gb vram? That's the shit I was running in like 2019 and now use on my home server downstairs.

You just can't release a compelling game on such shit hardware like the Steam Machine. Don't expect any game.
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>>738305857
No, it's just a more expensive console version of the Steam Deck. Theres no point in buying it if you don't already have a Steam account full of games.
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>>738308240
>Their target audience is retarded Steam fan boys
Why would I buy a steam machine when I already have a gaming PC?
The target audience is not pc gamers, it's consolefaggots.
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>>738305857
DOA if you can't pirate in it.
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>>738308360
They've openly stated it's just a PC you can do what you want with.
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>>738308347
Because people want to play in their living room too.
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>>738308508
I already do that. I don't need a whole other, much worse PC to do it on.
This is like saying the target audience for the series S is series X owners to play on a different TV.
They don't want to capture their already existing audience. The point is to get new people buying steam games, people who don't already have a gaming PC.
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>>738308593
i have a gaming PC and I want one.
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>>738308634
OK. You still aren't the target audience.
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>>738308729
The target audience is scalpers.
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>>738308729
Prove it, I'll wait.
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>>738308729
I also have a gaming pc and I want one for my living room tv.
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>>738305857
it's a counter strike/dota machine
what other games are valve drones playing anyway
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So /v/, what game would valve release that's GabeCube exclusive, not even available for PC Steam, for you to buy one?
Factor in the system coming with the game and a controller bundled in
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>>738305857
It's to play bongo cat at 30 fps 1080p
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>>738308913
Deadlock. It's the launch title.
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>>738308992
anon...
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>>738305857
>valve
>games


not even Steam's existence can make me forget they haven't made new gaems since orange box
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>>738305857
Only vegan games like Breath of the Wild.
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can it connect to the internet?
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>>738308593
Your Xbox example is wrong. People have a desktop computer where they sit on a chair. People also want a console to play those same games they own on the couch.

It's two totally different products.

The fact you use your desktop plugged into your TV only makes you have ONE of those options, not both. I can also plug my desktop to my TV and say I have a "Steam Machine", but then, where is my desktop? Where is my actual high resolution high refresh rate monitor with my mechanical keyboard and high dpi mouse where I also browse the web, write emails, do programming or whatever?

People want both.

People probably already have a desktop + some other console like Xbox/PS5 in their living room. But the Steam Machine is so small you can still add it next to those.

They 100% do NOT want to capture new costumers. No one is gonna buy an overpriced console. No one is gonna want to tweak Steam OS. No one is gonna want to constantly tweak settings to achieve acceptable framerate. No one is gonna want to browse Steam for Steam Controller 2 user inputs and adjustements.

The Steam Machine is aimed at Steam paypigs who already have some tech knowledge and the patience to deal with all that stuff.

They are not trying to sell it to your average 18 year-old Ariana Grande fan who browses tiktok and may be interested in buying a console.
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The launch line up is roughly 28,000 games.
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>>738309103
RIP
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>>738308347
Their target audience are the 60% of gamers running on 2018 laptops.
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>>738309125
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/Deadlock/
I can invite you if you want.
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is valve a muslim organization? wtf is this
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>>738309243
>The fact you use your desktop plugged into your TV only makes you have ONE of those options, not both.
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>>738309463
I can just tell that you need exercise
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>>738305857
Futa Fight and Fuck, Steve.
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>>738309502
He uses lincucks. He's 400lbs+.
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>>738309642
Arch linux, tyvm. I can only dream of this physique.
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>>738305857
>>738308360
It's just a PC you utterly brown pajeets, it runs virtually every game ever
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>>738309642
>>738307376
>>738306232
>winjeets directly going for the izzat
lol
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>>738308347
Get with the times Grandpa. They have no reason to chase consoles when the PC market is already chock full of zoomers and hundreds of millions of active Steam users charting all the top multiplayer games every night.

The millennial PC "elitists" of decades past refuse to accept that literally everybody is already on PC now (ESPECIALLY the 20 and under market) and you decrepit old retards pretend like the PC market is still some low number muh sekrit club mastur race xD meanwhile the only people who game on consoles anymore are your contemporaries who are pushing 40 and refuse to join the PC cult of principle or still believe in chasing the ps6 phantom as part of some grandfathered in delusion from their childhoods.

Majority of Gen Z is on PC with gaming laptops bought by their trust fund parents, whereas the smaller subset of Gen X who joined PC ecosystem in 2000s/2010s bought their rigs eons ago before it became a hobby for millionaires.
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>>738309463
That setup is just retarded. How can you do something on the computer and have a relative use the TV at the same time without disrupting you? People in North America have houses and apartements with multiple rooms. In North America, a living room is a living room. An office is an office.

No one here has their PC desk next to their TV. No one here has their PC desk WITH THEIR FREAKING PRINTER next to their TV. Literally, no one.

I knew Europe had it rough with the war in Ukraine and inflation. But I didn't know it was THIS bad. You guys are straight up living in Japanese sleeping pods. Geez.
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>>738309831
I BTFO you in another thread, AMDreidel jeet. That 9070XT from last year isn't even as powerful as a 4 year old Nvidia card.
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>>738308240
>overpriced junk.
But enough about every console released these past 5 years
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>>738307508
>Arch
You will NEVER be a woman, ever.
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>>738309463
Please don't buy a gabe cube and let someone who needs it buy it. You obviously have the perfect setup, no need to spend the money.
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>>738309885
you think he ever has guests over? kek
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>>738309932
it's more powerful than every card that's designed to kill itself with the jeet engineered connector
why are you so desperate win the izzat?
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>>738309885
Not Euro. Literally the other side of the world. And I don't care how people in third world countries like America live.
And it's simple. Wife watches Youtube while I shitpost and game. We can share the same space, spending time together doing our own thing.
Our downstairs is one big open space room.
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>>738310175
>2 more weeks, and it's going to die
Of course AMDreidel shills don't know how to plug in a cable.
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yeah it's pc it has the most games and in the best format
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>>738310241
>if I'm gentle enough with the alcoholic I married then maybe he won't beat me
nvindians have a battered wife syndrome
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>>738305857
It'll have every game ever released
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>>738310309
A lot of your demons are coming out in this conversation. Are you okay? Are you suffering from buyer's remorse from getting an underpowered card to own the "corporations?"
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>>738307376
AMD GPUs don't suck ass on Linux. Nshittia, on the other hand...well, okay, it's not as bad as it used to be since NVK+Zink is functional enough and reclocking works, but you're still eating a 50% perf hit compared to the dogshit unstable proprietary drivers.
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>>738310357
>no u
you bought a card with a shitty connector that caused a 10x spike in nvidia warranty claims and you think you can fix it by sucking off nvidia and delusionally believing it won't affect you


>People living with battered woman syndrome may feel helpless. This can cause them to wrongly believe they deserve the abuse and that they can’t get away from it. In many cases, this is why people don’t report their abuse to police or loved ones.
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>>738310473
open drivers aren't too bad. They get better every update. Because all AI runs on Linux, Nvidia is finally putting in the effore.
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>>738310490
I've had this card since 2023 and in 2 more weeks, it's going to die. Incidentally, you bought your card at least 2 years later than me, and it's weaker.
But keep telling me how worse is better.
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>>738310525
AI is dead. The jeet running MS even has them removing Copilot from Windows.
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>>738310527
>it's not going to happen ever because... BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN NVIDIA THEY WOULD NEVER DO THAT TO ME

BATTERED
WOMAN
SYNDROME
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i wonder how much it'll cost... i'll consider it if it's cheap so I can have it on my second tv in the bedroom...
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>>738310572
AI is 95% of Nvidias business. MS is removing the garbage and fixing windows because people keep moving to Linux.
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>>738310603
There was a thread the other day claiming $600-$700 but I don't believe it. I am guessing $1200.
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>>738310615
Nobody's moving to linux.
>>738310581
>broken record
>from a broken home
>keeps talking about spousal abuse
Does your husband hit you, sir?
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>>738310639
chinks sell mini pcs with double the ram but without the gpu and controller for $570
valve doesn't have to give amazon their cut either
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>>738310658
>no u
very poor efforts nvindian
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BUT WHAT IF I WANT TO PLAY WINDOWS 9X GLIDE GAMES?
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>>738310658
>Nobody's moving to linux.
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>>738310639
if it's $600-700 i'll consider it depending on when it's released and my condition... if it's below that like >>738310681 assumes then i'll probably get it rather easily
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>>738310730
This shit ironically works better on Linux nowadays than Windows. Windows' own backcompat with pre-2000 is godawful.
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>>738310681
>but without the gpu and controller for $570
This is a bigger deal than you think
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>>738310730
Then you just play them. Proton is ridiculous. Valve pumped infinite money into Wine development.
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>>738310779
controller is $100, you're shaving off $80 by cutting ram and storage in half to match the lower spec steam machine
valve is paying about $100 for that gpu
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>>738305857
All PC games ever made and emulation of every console in existence barring the latest slopware.
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>>738310850
>$80 for RAM in 2026
>$100 for GPU
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>>738310921
the price you pay isn't the price hardware manufacturers pay
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>>738310979
Then why do you think you will pay $600? If it is $600 I will buy one, even though I don't want or need it.
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>>738311060
$600 is a lot closer to what it's going to be than fucking $1200
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>>738305857
Every catalogue you've ever used actually - Steam, Sony, Origins, Xbox, Battle.net, Epic. The Cube will give you acces to everything you own, everywhere (as long as you connect to a screen & have the periphery).
Price it right & it's the console killer.
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>ANOTHER steamiejeet thread
Fucking get a life.
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>>738307508
holy kino
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Will it have any games though?
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Time to become an epicchad instead
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>>738311281
>steamiejeet
jeets are less than 1% of steam's traffic
you should at least try to look at the facts before affixing jeet to everything
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>>738311321
Inshallah it will play every game under God
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>>738311370
For a country of nearly a billion I would think it should be way more. But I am more interested in who the fuck is playing in Antarctica
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>>738311598
Probably some very bored researchers.
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>>738311598
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Volvo hasn't made a video game in 63 years.
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>>738305857
Literally all the games
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>>738311598
I brought my deck with me to Antarctica when I was on campaign.
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>>738311820
blocks your path
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>>738311905
>linux protects you from running malware disguised as games
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>>738305969
Last game was half life alyx in 2016 for steam index.
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>>738311983
No you lying fuck Alyx came out in 2020!
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>>738311598
Researchers
https://www.pcgamesn.com/gaming-antarctica
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Why are linux fats such cultists? Can't they just accept that they're fat, smelly, and will never have sex?
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>>738312252
why do you talk like a woman? estrogen injection perhaps?
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>>738305969
Retard
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>>738312287
>no, we can't
I see.
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>>738312356
>yes i just injected estrogen
i know
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>>738312390
So how do poor people like you actually get so fat?
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>>738311905
Just install windows on it
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>>738312418
does your mom know you're trying to become a woman?
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>>738312578
Console babs can't figure out how to do that.
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>>738312418
Poor people have less availability of healthy options, and are more frequently less available by time investment to make home cooked meals at all. This leads to a soft dependence on fast food or other unhealthy speed/cost efficient but nutrient deficient items.
Further, the poor often keep themselves poor through poor judgement which, again, leads to an over reliance on speed foods, snacks and eating out due to poor planning and foresight.
Some poor also stem from addiction issues, and food/drink can require willpower to resist and change habits regarding which they may lack as either a consequence of, or because of, their addictive traits.
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>>738311937
>those grapes are sour
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>>738312891
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aposematism
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>>738312850
Thanks AnonGPT
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>>738310768
Eh, that is true.

Kind of hard to fault Microsoft since they were more bending to the yoke of things like newer CPU tech and diminishing support for APIs in graphics hardware but more could have been done if they pride themselves so much on Windows' software library being built on the same architecture then as it is now.
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>>738307376
Yeah, I didn't reward leather jacket jew for killing videogames and the world. Did you?
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>>738306585
Know what nigger? Are you saying that I've actually hallucinated all the games I've played on my PC since I switched a couple years ago?
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>>738312891
The "silly fox can't reach the grapes so he copes" analogy isn't really applicable to this situation because installing Windows is within reach of everyone using Linux. The only barrier is that they genuinely don't want to do it, a decision they made after using Windows before. So the only way your analogy works is if you're referring to a different sour-grapes parable in which the fox actually ate some grapes and said "yeah they taste like shit".
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>>738311370
I wasn't talking about Steam users being Indian. I mean the mudjeet that in every single thread about Steam or Valve calling people "steamies", lie it's even an insult.
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>>738306810
Never ever but it would be kino
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>>738305857
>Will it have any games though?
Yes, if you install windows there.
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>>738312323
>dead-on-arrival-locked
lol
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>>738315656
why would you want to lower your performance?
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>>738316123
Nah, it will only increase performance.
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>>738312929
You're welcome.
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>>738316254
let me guess, your source is benchmarks from 10 months ago?
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>>738305857
>4k 60fps with FSR
>8gb vram
>16gb ddr5 ram
It'll be mostly indie games. Remember valve showed that tranny playing cuphead with his whale of a girlfriend.
This shit ain't gonna be able to run GTA 6.
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>>738316607
>8gb vram
>16gb ddr5 ram
both are sufficient on linux
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I truly pity the retards who didn't just buy a mini pc before the ram bullshit.
I guess that's the main difference between a PC gamer and a valve shill.
We understand there's better hardware out there and we get more value out of our purchases. You don't know something exists unless valve slapped a steam logo on it. Now they're going to charge you 1k for something that is 1/4th the power of pic related.
And before you start. It's also a pc so you can install Linux on it if you want.
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>>738316730
Yes, this will be enough to run neofetch.
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>>738316607
>This shit ain't gonna be able to run GTA 6.
GTA 6 will have to run on Xbox Series S, I'm sure the Steam Machine will be fine. Though it's a pretty low bar already.
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>>738316784
>It's also a pc so you can install Linux on it if you want.
why would you want to lower your performance?
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>>738305857
No
Well, it'll run whatever linux PCs can run
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>>738316730
Funny how with you steamies. The exact specifications of what valve is selling you; is somehow always the perfect idealist scenario.
It makes discourse impossible with you assholes because you don't see yourself as a consumer buying a product that has benefits and is comparable to other products of the same vein.
You see yourselves as devout followers of the congregation of Gaben and steam.
"of course it's perfect the way it is! Valve designed it that way"
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>>738316809
again, it's going to be sufficient purely because it's not running windows
valve also has specific optimisations for vram like the dmemg thing and the fact that they kill the desktop environment when in gaming mode
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>>738316858
It was a preemptive "Inb4" because you know Linuxfags would ignore everything and just reply with
>windows
When my point is for 1k 6 months ago you could get a mini pc miles ahead of the steam machine
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>>738316836
>I'm sure the Steam Machine will be fine.
You forget that anticheat does not work on linux.
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>>738317138
Fair enough, forgot about GTAO
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>>738316970
>valve please please please give developers the mandate to rape performance even harder
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>>738308240
It's a better alternative for any console ever + any low-to-mid spec PC - it's NOT for those who already have a gaming rig. How do you not understand that, are you stupid o_O You can't build a PC for a grand, and this will run EVERYTHING you've ever bought, and have access to every catalogue in existence - a portable mid pc, the 8/16GB meme, all that jazz. For a thousand bucks that's a steal.
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>>738305857
I heard Valve bought GTA6 exclusivity rights
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>>738316858
lol, windows absolutely rapes the performance of those lower spec mini pcs
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>>738309831
its sad to see linuxcucks like this oh well.
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>>738316981
>stalker
>hogwarts legacy
>oblivion remaster
holy shit
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>>738308954
>gabecube
>exclusives
It'll have the same exclusives as every other PC. It's not a retarded cucksole, the main USP would be the no fuss one-click-play that consoles benefit from, with Steam Big Picture.
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>>738317215
Ironic. There was a time pc gamers shat on consoles (series s/switch) for holding back gaming because they were so underpowered compared to the average PC in 2019.
Now look at them. Follow goose step all the way down the street waving their steam flag.
Fucking pathetic.
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>>738317453
>progress is when you use raytracing so you can hire even more jeets and balloon the requirements
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>>738305857
It can run Half-Life, at least.
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>>738317348
>it's sad to see them benefit from not using an os made by 18k indians
????
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>>738317513
No freedom is understanding as an adult you have choices.
I bought a mini pc that is 4x better spec wise than the steam machine because I want my hardware to last longer.
Its fine to buy the steam machine go crazy. But let's not pretend that 16gb of ram and 8gb of vram was fucking entry level tier pc specs half a decade ago.
If anything valve should do what other computer manufacturers do and offer different skus. Hell Xbox has the series s and x and Sony has the ps5 and pro.
But don't expect actual pc gamers to pretend the steam machine isn't low spec dogshit. You can literally get a mini pc right now with those same specs. Waiting for valve to shit it down your throat with some unknown price point is asking for trouble. Unless you enjoy gaben's cock. Then by all means.
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It doesn't matter. Steam has 0 good exclusives compared to Playstation.
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>>738317794
... wow. You genuinely don't understand the benefits of owning a computer, huh? "Exclusives" fuckin lol
No wonder they call y'all "peasants".
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>>738317792
>I bought a mini pc that is 4x better spec wise
so you're tech illiterate, thanks for telling me that
no such thing exists you fucking idiot, you're talking a 4090 and a 9950x3d in a mini pc

>You can literally get a mini pc right now with those same specs.
post one then, you need a dedicated gpu inside one for that to be true
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>>738317592
please do not redeem the linux
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>>738317794
um please stop talking you're embarrassing yourself sweetie
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It's a home computer not a console.

Nothing to get hyped about. It's basically just a prebuilt
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>>738317794
In all honesty the steam machine as it is currently being sold (steam OS installed)
Its pretty dogshit as a gaming device let alone "console"
>Most popular games in the gaming world can't be played on it because Linux and anti-cheat
Linuxfags will say those games suck. Sure that's your viewpoint. But they're still popular nonetheless. So Valve's inability to make those games compatible with steam OS and the steam machine is an absolute failure.
Any sane person would build a desktop pc or get a gaming laptop or a mini pc with windows installed. They want their games to be there and functional.
Really surprised they also didn't bother to release a game with the hardware release like they did with alyx and the index.
Just feels Iike they're selling a shitty underpowered "gaming***" machine that can't do what consoles can or a standard off the shelf windows PC.
Its clearly for people who already drowned in the cult kool-aid of valve and own a steamdeck and unironically run Linux as a primary OS. They're the definition of a vocal minority.
Most steam players are on windows by choice.
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>>738318052
Cope. PC exclusives are early access survival crafting garbage, friend slop or shitty obscure metroidvania #59158020. Meanwhile Playstation have proper games like Ghost of Yotei.
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>>738318140
there is plenty if you're not a caveman and understand that the benefit of this thing comes from the software side
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>>738305857
If they released Half Life 3 with it they'd probably break the Internet
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>>738318268
>GoY
lmao
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>>738318425
Cope some more, faggot. You will NEVER see graphics this good on PC.
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>>738318267
>unironically run Linux as a primary OS
I do this. I'm not gonna install windows to play call of duty, i didn't do it back in 2014 and I'm not gonna do it now.
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>>738318518
so what resolution do you upscale this from, little guy?
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>>738316016
Sure, but still counts.
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>>738317945
>4x as much ram
>2.5x cpu cores
>3x nvme slots
And unless the steam machine is $250 I didn't have to spend 4x as much money on my mini pc.
I'd go on but I know you steamfags love to act like fucking Helen Keller the moment any product or situation makes valve look like the scummy salesman they are. All of Valve's currently products are out classed by its competitors. Meta Quest with the Index. ROG ally/legion go with the steam deck. There's better priced products out there. You just have to lift your head up from gaben's crotch.
You fucking retard.
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>>738318551
Thank you for providing my post correct in record time. You people truly are the Vegans of the gaming world.
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>>738318813
>4x as much ram
that does nothing and is wasted on this form factor

>2.5x cpu cores
>he's unironically counting estrogen cores

>3x nvme slots
ah yes, extra slots famously increase performance, that's why 8tb ssds make games run 2x faster
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>>738318518
>not sure if
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>>738312891
>I'm sour grapes'd out over rootkit gachashit bro
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>>738318956
on the contrary, all the defense of microjeet jeetdows is like willingly going to mcdonalds in 2026
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>>738318268
>Ghost of Yotei.
>proper games
jesust.....
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>>738319038
I also can use an external GPU to boost performance and help with keeping it viable in the future.
I'm sure Gaben added that feature-.. Oh damn guess he forgot.
You steamies are the antithesis of what pc game is truly about.
Your half limp wristed response to me is pathetic. I'm done wasting my time with you retards. I'm living in a world where I understand the pc specs I want exist out there and I purchase it. I thank the Lord above I don't have the same mental schism you people have where whatever valve declares is automatically your preference. Go get some self respect you fucking loser.
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>>738318813
>2.5x cpu cores
You absolute fucking idiot. You can buy the highest core count CPU from 10 years ago and match it against a modern CPU with 4 less cores and the modern CPU will win because of Instructions Per Clock.
Comparing anything but raw performance through FPS is useless.
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>>738318813
>>738319038
The funniest thing is the GPU. What are you playing on that Intel IGP anon? It's only half the performance of a B580.

It's a neat mini PC but it's not comparable.
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>>738319318
>external GPU
so you don't know what pcie lanes are and why that would be a waste of money?
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>>738318956
>You people truly are the Vegans of the gaming world.
Dont care. I will support Valve products as long as they keep bankrolling 300-400 contractors working on Linux desktop improvements with their Counter-Strike gambling cash, so I can play the latest games with all the latest features like ray tracing, better performance, VRR, HDR, Anti-Lag 2, FSR 4.1, native Wayland, Steam Input, and game streaming on my RX 9700XT system. If Epic Games, Sony, or Activision were the ones working on these improvements, then I would support their products instead, but they are not. You /v/tards dont know how rough desktop linux was pre-valve
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>>738318813
>140T gpu
that thing is relentlessly stomped by the slightly cut down RX 7600 inside the steam machine
you're retarded
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>>738316016
kek
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>steam machine has a 6 core cpu
>my Intel mini pc has a 16 core cpu
Thus it has 2.6 times more cores. To any lurkers thinking of posting in this thread. Be warned valve isn't sending their best shills.
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>>738319980
yes, and the bulldozer chips had 8 cores
stop coping fag, 2 estrogen cores are worth 1 amd core
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Damn buying a mini pc that's more powerful and feature rich than the steam machine is getting them all worked up.
One guy is saying my igpu is ass while another is downplaying the fact I can attach an external GPU to make that igpu faults irrelevant. You people need to review your steam manifesto playbook. Get on the same page!
You guys keep seething I'm going to enjoy an actual mini pc that isn't going to be obsolete in 2 fucking years.
Here's what I purchased if any lurkers are instrested in it. Not sure the current price tho.
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>>738319980
>16 cores
>Actually 8 ecores and 4 performance cores which get counted twice, so Steam Machine would have 12 cores because it also has SMT.
Intel isn't sending their best.
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>>738320316
>feature rich
except for the feature that's relevant to what the steam machine will be doing

>external GPU
literal waste of fucking money given how much performance you lose
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>>738320316
Have you considered that you might just be retarded. Does that mini PC even have CEC?
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>>738319980
>6P+8E+2LP
Why are you retarded?
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>>738311321
just one, but you can play it five times a day.
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>>738320316
Yes anon, if you spend 999 dollars on a mini PC, another 99 on an OCuLink GPU dock, and 279 on an RX 7600, you can match or even beat the CPU and GPU performance of the Steam Machine. But the GPU will be limited to a 4x PCIe 4.0 connection, and you likely will not get things like Resizable BAR without some BIOS modding. So what exactly is your point?
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>still classified as a core
Don't @ me
You people are rabid dogs with your semantics to defend valve underpowered offerings. Cult behavior honestly.
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>>738320912
>it's a core because intel says it is
it performs like half a core and the lp cores are a third of a core
you're not using those for videogames, for those it's equal to the r5 7600 that the steam machine will have
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>>738320823
He does have a point that having the option to use an eGPU in the future makes the device more future-proof. However the way he frames the benefits are retarded.
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>technically get one spec comparison slightly incorrectly due to semantics
>steamies ignore the other comparisons like nvme slots and ram amounts to dogpile what classifies as a "core"
Like shitbulls to a kindergarten class. You people are bloodthirsty for any openings to defend valve and attack people who have a different take on what they find acceptable for pc hardware.
Still has more threads btw.
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>>738321143
>this device that's objectively worse for playing games is better than the steam machine because of things unrelated to playing games
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>>738321069
eGPUs are also a huge cost, bottlenecked, and a faff to set up. They're not the golden option people pretend they are. An enclosure for one is usually a few hundred unless you're going to jury rig one.
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>>738321225
I know, I know. Like I said, future-proofing. Being able to plop in an eGPU 10 years into the future keeps the machine viable.
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>>738321143
>Still has more threads btw.
And the raw framerate?
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>>738321143
>Like shitbulls to a kindergarten class.
Did the liquor tell you which PC to buy?
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>>738321225
Most PC gamers just get the enclosure and slap their old GPU in it when they upgrade. Did that for my Rog ally with my 3080ti when I got a 4090.
Literally no reason to let it sit around if it can help boost performance on a device I game on.
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>>738321143
I owe you an apology. I misread the situation. I took the time to respond and tried to engage with your points in good faith, but it now seems like your intent was to provoke reactions and get you's by deliberately misunderstanding what people were saying in their replies. I’m going to hide your posts from here on out.
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>>738305857
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2026/01/steam-deck-hits-25000-games-valve-have-rated-playable-or-verified/
it will have a few games
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>>738321610
Anon, I.. Can you please explain to me how this process works?

So, you have a PC, with a 3080Ti/4090, and then decided to get a mini-PC, upgrade your main PC, and then use your old GPU with the new mini-PC? Like, what's the thought process there? I don't understand what situation this organically happens in, that doesn't involve being a Youtube creator trying to make a steam machine clone for video clicks.
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>>738321390
>GabeCube
Thank you for using that moniker. It's like pic related used to identity jews ASAP.
Now I know exactly what you are and that having any type of discussion with you regarding valve let alone the steam machine is like trying to convince a fly to leave a steaming pile of fresh horse shit.
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>>738321751
>mini pc was a replacement for the wife's decade old desktop and I was able to spin my plex sever off my main gaming pc to the mini pc as well
>my main desktop is a 4090 with some 6 year old Intel CPU (gonna upgrade this year)
>I have an rog ally x that I use for gaming around the house so I hook it up to the egpu (3080ti) when I want to game on a TV my desktop can't reach like in the bedroom
On top of that I have a series x (ace combat 6 backwards compatibility) and switch 2. I'm almost an idort sans a Playstation. It's a simple gaming life honestly. Biggest issue I have is steam not uploading my save cloud before I turn off the PC -_-
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>>738321751
>steam machine clone
You do know mini PCs have existed for literally years right? Used to be called NUCs when Intel made some a few years back. This isn't something valve pioneered or anything.
People can buy stuff and not have it be related to valve.
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>>738321658
I accept your concession.
>>738321465
>framerate
Uhoh the steam bot LLM is hallucinating again. I have no qualms about comparing the steam machine performance to my clearly on paper better spec'd mini pc.
We can cross that bridge whenever valve decides to stop pussy footing around ram prices.
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>>738308954
Half life 3 Linux exclusive
Gabens master plan to kill windows
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>>738322564
What's wrong with asking for direct framerate comparisons?
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>>738305857
It already has shitloads of games.
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>>738322867
Name 5
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>>738322564
>I have no qualms about comparing the steam machine performance to my clearly on paper better spec'd mini pc.
are you serious?
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>>738323307
heh... orange box.
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>>738323313
no he isnt, stop giving him you's
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>>738309463
Is that microphone any good? I heard it has issues with basically picking up every movement your hands make on your desk.
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>>738323313
>comparing the actual desktop gpu to the Intel igpu
>current desktop card you used has a higher tdp than the fucking steam machine itself
>no cpu listed either
F- see my after class. You retards are unbelievable just learn to shut the fuck up and understand when you don't have the ace in the hole for your valve dick riding goon sess
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>>738312252
That just means more time for /v/idya.
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>>738324052
massive difference there
stop digging your own grave retard, it's going to be clocked higher than the mobile version
your shitbox is getting btfoed one way or another

>no cpu listed either
are you retarded enough to believe the cpu is going to be bottlenecking anything here?
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>>738312252
I'm fat & smelly but I have sex with your mom all the time
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>>738305857
I miss valve making videogames. They used to be quite good at it. It's a shame we'll never see TF3, or Dota 3, or L4D3, or HL3, or Portal 3, or CS3, or Artifact 2, or any new games.

It's very very sad that they've just given up on gamedev
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>>738305857
No, PC fags always shit on consoles for not having any games but the moment you try to look at PC exclusives it’s all shit from 20 years ago or shitty indie slop
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>>738324563
every game that can be played on pc is better than the console version and makes playing it on consoles redundant if you're not retarded
even when you have to emulate
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>>738322375
Those don't come with dedicated GPUs with real VRAM and >100W TDP. The vast majority just have way slower iGPUs running off of shared system RAM. Models with real GPUs and dedicated VRAM do exist but they're far less common and are usually larger and more expensive than what you posted as well.
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All these threads are always the exact same replies even tho we had 1000 of them and every question answered,am not gonna sit here and pretend new people come here every day cause I know this board is dead
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>actually in theory based on what we know currently! The performance of the steam machine is actually quite...
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>>738324829
aquajeet?
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>>738324052
Unlike Nvidia who tend to label chips a tier up in mobile, AMD doesn't really do that. They might have a lower TDP, but they are the same part.

Also keep in mind that most of the benchmarks you'll find online of the 7600 are performed on Windows 11, and that the Steam Machine runs a GNU/Linux based OS and uses a driver that delivers performance about 33% faster for the same 8GB hardware.

The AMD GNU/Linux drivers also support FP8 on RDNA 2 and 3 while Windows 11 can't manage that without RDNA 4. So their '4k' gaming like the other current low-spec systems on the market is likely to use upscaling. Unclear whether AMD will allow Valve to officially use FP8 FSR4 on Linux when Microsoft's OS can't manage it. Or if they will officially release the INT8 FSR4 model, or if Valve is going to launch their own branded upscaler.
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>>738325294
i'm completely convinced official fsr4 on rdna2 and 3 is held back entirely by valve now
no way valve doesn't get access to it, they're literally codeveloping linux drivers with amd
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>>738325454
Thing is, Valve was involved in the patches that delivered support. AMD could have had official support months ago, at least on GNU/Linux based OSes. Which would have avoided a lot of negative attention AMD got, or at least pointed that negativity at the correct target.
Not supporting FSR4 on more of their hardware seems to be entirely due to the deficiency in Microsoft's platform.

Given that it is AMD's upper management holding it back official support, it seems like either they're waiting for Microsoft to get their act together so a major customer isn't one-upped by their competition, or they're waiting for Valve to pay them enough to have an independently branded version like PSSR.
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>>738305857
Deadlock and Half-life 3
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I don't understand this discussion about mini pcs and "enclosures" just build a PC at this point. Steam Machine is obviously target for being hooked up to the tv in the living room but I did hear kids these days moved away from the sofa in front of tv setup so maybe that's where the confusion comes.
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>>738325948
fsr4 int8 leak was most likely an early version of pssr2, and the current pssr2 is just an int8 model distilled from full fat fsr4 and had some layers fused. They probably have a exclusivity agreement for that model and that's why they are not releasing it. Which isn't the end of the world since on linux rdna3 can just run the "full" fsr4.1 model anyway, but i dont think valve will explicitly advertise it and just leave it to plugin makers and modders to implement it.



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