>12 million copies sold>critics love it>fans love it>franchise fucking diesUhhh... why?
>>738307752the voice actor was a chud thats why..
>>738307752>NOOO THEY NEED TO KEEP MILKING IT FOREVERfive wasnt even the best DMC but its fine to let a series die
>>738307946Sure but if the series dies the entire genre dies, the only other J-Style series is Bayonetta and it doesn't look like that's going anywhere either. It's not like Souls where even if they end the Dark Souls franchise there are a dozen other takes on the action RPG genre
>>738307752Itsuno is a fucking hack>Raped dmc and turned it into a mindless juggleslop>Beg capcom to give him unlimited money and time so he can make his dream game which flopped hard twice >Instead of accepting his fault he decided to run away like a bitch and join some chink mobileslop studio
>>738307752That's based though. I wish more good series went out with bangs like that.
>>738307752It's not dead, just hibernating again.As for why it's two reasons:1) despite being a critical darling and a financial success, the amount of return is low by the standards of modern shareholders. They want a MonHun DLC money train not a moderate profit.2) developing that kind of action game takes expertise that most teams simply don't have. It's a very difficult kind of game to develop and the people capable of doing it are likely already busy on larger projects
>>738307752it was mid as fuck
>>738307752>franchise fucking diesyou got a mobile game and you're getting a netflix cartoon in a couple of daysbe grateful!
It ruined DMC for me.The combat was not enjoyable, too many corridors, no mystique, but the worst part was the realistic looking older characters, I hate what they've done to them. Fuck the RE Engine to hell.The music was alright.
>>738307752>see dmcringe thread>think eh fuck it look inside the depressed millennial circlejerk fest for once>see >>738308020 calling the action mashy genre now "J-Style"Yuuuup till one of the most gay, cringe and obnoxious fanbases in vidya.
>>738308537Yeah the hyper-realistic style was fucking disgusting
>>738308551Rollslop negroes easily still take that title. Also tendies with their insane bootslurping.
>>738308020>the entire genre diesNot on his watch
>>738308551Uh, what would you call them? J-Style is the universally agreed upon name for the genre
>>738307752>>fans love itNo, we did not.Just like the RE Engine Resident Evil games and Demakes, DMCV was a total clusterfuck.
DMC5 was "too action-oriented", if that makes sense.
>>738307752At least you guys got a new game. Capcom has remade and rereleased literally every title in the Ace Attorney franchise like 5 times over on the past 3 console generations and they still won't just make a new one.
>>738309185WHAT DOES REDDITFROG HAVE TO DO WITH THAT POSTWHAT DOES REDDITFROG HAVE TO DO WITH THAT POST
>>738310123Thats why it was based, in a world of open world ARPGs with platforming puzzle and stealth elements DMC5 just focused on being a fun action game.
>>738309185Shut the fuck up nigger, they're hack and slash or action games
>>738310123yeah far too "videogame-y" too
>>738310240Yes but previous Devil May Cry games used to have small puzzle areas that were demarcated by blue walls. DMC5 has none of those, only red wall combat gauntlets that have to be cleared to progress.They're not hard to solve but they were meant to be a mild pace change from time to time.
>>738307752It was great and I'm tired of you doomer faggots in every thread saying it's bad. It's fine to be critical of it and it isn't your favorite, but saying it's bad is just being a contrarian.
>>738310403Its worse than 4 and 2
>>738310415>Its worse than 4 and 2I am summarily ignoring anyone saying a DMC game in the series can be worse than 2.DmC is fucking better than 2.
>>738308020>if the series dies the entire genre diesDid Tales, Star Ocean, and Ys stop existing?
>>738310415>Its worse than 4arguably not, but I can see why someone would prefer 4 despite its rushed state>and 2Fuck off
>>738308072Fuck off.You know damn well that if DMC1-style DMC prevailed, the modern version would be over-the-shoulder walk and talk movieslop with a few heavily scripted action setpieces. Hate Itsuno all you want for fucking up DD twice but he in all likelihood saved DMC
>>738310437>>738310565Atleast 2 has some good art direction 5 looks like a tech demo build Story is bland(not that its matter)Level design are very sameyNo enemy variety80% of boss fights are boringConstant character switching and no option to play as dante only for whole gameSlow and less arcady movement Dmc5 has decent combat but what's the point when whole game feels like practice mode/void
>>738310757>Level design are very sameyI'll only accept this one, for the aforementioned >>738310373 (since these segments were ones that allowed the developer to design levels to be moved around in, not just through).
>>738307752>franchise has to... le continue forever
>the worst thing about the game was so gut-wrenching to recall that no one even remembers it and includes it in their critiques
>>738310835Why wouldn't you want this to continue? The type of combat DMC has served up is pretty much unmatched in the genre.
>>738307752They did the same shit after 4. We are probably up for another franchise restart.
>>738307752>franchise fucking dies>Uhhh... why?what do you mean? it says it right there. it says C-A-P-C-O-Mmotherfuckers love sitting on their IPs if it's not resident evil related
>>738311038That's Sega and Sonic.
>wanting new dmc game>after netflix dmc's success>no itsuno>only jyb remainingno fag, dmc5 was great, let it die there
whoa
>>738307752It's almost time to start posting Squidward Dante again. Still i'm not sure they can deliver without Itsuno or that one combat guy that went to work for Square on FF16.>>738308072I thought discord trannies had moved to shit on Crimson Desert. But i see that Godsuno, the man that made the best DMCs on the market still lives rent free on their heads.
>>738310437i cant believe we are at a point where someone would even try and argue that 2 is worth anything. DmC has some retarded charm to it but again, not a devil may cry game and should never be seen again. but also i want DmC 2 /v/ shitposting. i want them to do DmC 2: DmC Harder with a silloutte logo of Donte holding a ballon like a gay banksi painting and written by someone trying to get the supernatural audience
>>738310403The level design is absolutely fucking abysmal both artistically and functionally. They might as well just lock you in the bloody palace arenas and play a cutscene after you clear enough waves to advance the story
We're getting a new DMC announcement at Summer Game Fest>SourceCame to me in a dream
>>738308687>>738308551Rent free
DMC5 could actually be an adequate end to the story (Nero is now in charge of keeping the human world safe from demon invasions and tapped into his demonic heritage, Dante and Vergil have made amends, etc.) but I just want to see how they can further evolve the combat in the future so I want a new installment.
>>738311140I waited for Alice Madness Return remastered
>>738309185Nigger I have literally never even see the term posted until today and there are were only 39 hits for it in the archive before this thread. 39 posts might as well have been a single guy posting about it.
>>738307752forcing new releases every year when the creatives have no good ideas will kill a franchise worse than letting it lie dormant for awhile
>>738309185Negro it's character action game.
>>738311484"Every year" is not seven years later.
>>738307752No producer to take overand/or No producer to take over that has a direction Capcom actually likesJP game dev is very reliant on producers more than directors. Harada gave an example of the lack of a producer willing to take on SoulCalibur being one of the main factors to the long delay between 5/6 and also its death after 6Itsuno fell into DMC after being asked to finish DMC 2 and begged Capcom to let him make 3 after knowing 2 was gonna be a shit and didn't want his legacy to be a shit game. Now that Itsuno is gone, they need someone else willing to take the reigns
>>738311536>DMC5 is now as old as DMC4 was when DMC4SE got released
>>738307752Seriously though, how can they top this? DMCV was lightning in a bottle. The combat was satisfying and gives you so much room to style as you please, there's easter eggs and fan service peppered throughout the game. You get to play as Vergil. Bloody palace. Even the fucking soundtrack man, the entire soundtrack is worth purchased on its own. I do want to see V's combat mechanic be used again, it's the best summoner combat I've ever played, and I feel there's still potentials it can explore. But Capcom's probably better off transplanting that to another IP
>>738311578Capcom already affirmed their commitment to bringing DMC back alongside Mega Man and Ace Attorney. I assume they have something in mind to facilitate that.
I hope Itsuno is doing ok
didn't the director leave Capcom?
>>738311652>Seriously though, how can they top this?By just doing something different. DMC5 was meant to be the logical endpoint of Itsuno's DMC. DMC6 will be another soft reboot like DMC3
>>738311652>But Capcom's probably better off transplanting that to another IPI thought they were gonna transplant it to Dragon's Dogma 2 (along with a variant of that pseudo co-op where sometimes you see other player's runthroughs of levels and in a few cases clear gauntlets with them) and instead we got the fucking illusion smoke class.
>>738311769He did, sadface.
I prefer Spectacle Fighter
>>738311769And that's a good thingKamiya will make another real dmc again
>DMC6>playable Nero, Dante and Vergil from the outset>is set in a German castle town where a cult of pseudo-demon hunters/humans with demonic enhancements and Devil Arms of their own are doing a mass sacrifice ritual to bring Mundus back to earth>the trio have to work together to effectively fight these guys but they get ass blasted because they keep stepping on each other's toes, so they regroup and return for a more coordinated round two>each of the gang get 7 missions of their own that happen concurrently, bar the final mission which has all three fight together. You unlock this (on your first playthrough) by completing all previous missions, then can choose who you want to take on the final battle>new gameplay focus is on improved environmental interaction; the shape of arenas and terrain influences how enemies move (eg; spider-type enemies are more dangerous in areas with walls and ceilings but flying enemies have less mobility, and visa versa), stage objects like benches and posts can be used in combos either as breakable weapons, things to assist dodging, or things you can smash enemies through, etc. And the size and shape of arenas can change through damage a la Berial or Goliath's battle. This applies for the whole game and not just opening areas>spacing and herding is thus more important; sometimes it's better to keep an enemy at a distance or send them flying into a stage hazard, sometimes it's better to pull them away from something THEY might pick up and use as a weapon or resource. You need situational awareness to truly style on fools>enemies in general are better at countering juggles>Dante is much the same but with new weapons>Nero can now swap his next Breaker, his charge bullet types and his Exceed engine>Vergil can use some V-like abilities in place of Doppelganger, has all new weapons and the ability to dual wield two selected weapons for special combos and Overdrive attacks
>>738311972Kamiya is an even bigger hack
>>738311809Please don't remind me>>Oh hey Itsuno's directing this, oh damn they got all the asset they need for a summoner vocation>>Oh okay it's not there, but there's gotta be a DLC right?I'm still so pissed ;_;
>>738310373>>738310820I'm nostalgic as the next person but can anyone actually point out a *good* puzzle room in DMC?
Nevermind the lack of level design, why are the enemies just different shades of grey? The variety is good at least, but the colors overall are just muted for some reason in this game.
>>738307752I actually hope it ends here. It ended on a real high note. Virgil kind of redeemed, Nero's arm grows back and he further became a powerful devil hunter by the end of the story. Dante of course still being Dante with his pizza shop. To me this game ended up being as great as we could possibly have ever hoped and even exceeded expectations imo for a game in a long running franchise in the modern era. I don't want them to potentially ruin it with a terrible sixth game.
>>738312661I want a bad Vanquish 2 just so that I can at least see the attempt and know they shouldn't have bothered.Leaving Vanquish's gameplay alone entirely is the real crime.
>>738311318The new DMC will be a DMC3 remake called Devil May Cry: Dante's Reawakening. Screencap this.
>>738310464Not J-Style games
>>738312645I played in HDR so it wasn't as grey for me but every time I see footage of the game elsewhere I'm baffled at how washed out the game looks.
>>738312645How are you supposed to fight the red teleporting dudes anyway? I only beat the game on the normal and hard difficulties so I mostly managed to spam my way through them, but there must be a proper way to fight these dudes
>>738307752>franchise fucking dies>Uhhh... why?Because you're retarded and that didn't happen.The development team moved on to make Dragon's Dogma 2.It's been 2 years since Dragon's Dogma 2 releasedGames of this caliber take at least 4-5 years to makeRealistically we are 2-3 years out from the next DMC game.
>>738311652>Seriously though, how can they top this?by making a game with a combat system that doesn't feel like a sluggish piece of shit without inertia and jump cancels, level design that's not just a straight corridor for 20 hours, art style that doesn't look like duisgastig gray uncanny valley garbage, summoner character whose combat style doesn't play like shit, and a story that's not a terrible shounen fanfic written in 5 minutes. allowing you to play as the protagonist of the series from the start instead of in the middle of the game also would've been nice
>>738311492WHAT IN THE WORLD IS "CHARACTER ACTION" YOU RETARDED BRAINROTTEN BUFFOON This genre is forever cursed it can't even have its own name.
>>738307752Itsuno left>>738307792Hes not a chud he's just kind of stupid and weird
>>738307752>Because you're retarded and that didn't happen.>The development team moved on to make Dragon's Dogma 2.>It's been 2 years since Dragon's Dogma 2 released>Games of this caliber take at least 4-5 years to make>Realistically we are 2-3 years out from the next DMC game.
I'll never understand the shitposting dogpile that DMC5 gets. At best the criticisms are half-hearted, at worst it's just meant to shit up the thread.
>>738307752Capcom doesn't know what to do with their dozens of IPs. A shame the release of 5 made this board worth using once in a while
>>738307752Because they don't know what else to do with it? Because they literally fired the that's pretty much the reason DMCV was even good? DMC is pretty much dead. The reason most people liked DMCV wasn't even because of the gameplay or anything, it was because of the memes. The game became a meme among streamers just like MG Rising.
>I'll never understand the shitposting dogpile that DMC5 gets. At best the criticisms are half-hearted, at worst it's just meant to shit up the thread.
>>738310939Because then you end Up getting a franchise like RE,which is slop?
God,I wanna see the turd that will be the second season of pajeet shankar version,its gonna be hilarious
>>738314576RE also had a massive gameplay pivot in 2005 and then again in 2017.
>>738313073It's been a long while since I played, but from what I remember: 1. they will always teleport in front of you before they start attacking 2. above 50% health they do 2 fakeouts, below 50% 1 fakeout, 3. mulithit attacks, like the cerberus shield (i don't remember the move name) are best for cheese parrying them.
>>738307752Shit art direction, shit unreal engine realistic scanned actor looking characters, shit levels.Devil May Cry 3 stays KING, I didn't bother finishing 5. Do you know how bad it truly is?Well I finished the Donte Ubisoft game. Not V. That says enough. I know about the plastic chair meme and the cool song, still didn't finish the game.
>>738314130But Kamiya is working with capcom again so dmc 6 might still be a thing
>>738315208>Crapcom is working with washed out personality, stay hyped! *pogface*nigger
>>738313073You just parry their attack by getting the timing down before they hit you. Also, they're effected by AOEs.
>>738307752Its not very good outside modding. Hindsight made me realize it was pretty fucking mid and I was young and consumed by hype. Glad the series is dormant.
>no Devil Sword VergilSadface.
The franchise is at the point where they don't know what to do for the next game >Does Nero gets children?>Does the game focuses on Dante and Vergil in Hell?>How do we include Nero if that is the case? >Do we bring back Mundus?>Do we bring back Sparda?The next game will most likely be a remake just to make things easier
>>738315647They should make a Vampire D game in cell shading. If they cared about making good shit I mean. Which they don't.
>>738307946>five wasnt even the best DMCIt was, by far.
>>738315647reboot the series and start from the beginning timeline-wise with Dante being called Tony Redgrave. either keep Nero as a side character or ignore his existence and write him out of the canon. no one needs Itsuno's ocdonotsteal
>>738315864>Shitty level design>Shitty story>Shitty art style>Shitty cutscenes>Sluggish combat without inertia or jump cancelsNope. DMC3 is still the king.
>>738315503If we look at the Devil Swords as the culmination of growth and a sort of complete wholeness then Vergil's character arc isn't over. As much as the series revolves around Vergil, if there ever is a sequel there's a lot of growth he still needs if he wants to be "complete" like Dante.For new weapons, DMC5SE should have replaced Beowulf with Urizen with a more updated moveset. It was right in front of them to the point a lot of fans even picked it up instead and we still got Beowulf 3.0.
>>738316220>Shitty level designNo. Also try to use your vocabulary, you're not making any kind of point by calling everything shitty, fatchild.
>>738317720You type like a rape victim.
>>73830775212 million copies sold at 10 dollars a piece
>>738316110why reboot, could just surf through the timeline, DMC3 itself goes back in time with no problem and DMC2 is almost a standalone.
>>738316834It would be FUCKING SEXY if they finally did a DMC game where Vergil is a CANONICALLY playable character instead of just something they throw in after the fact with no plot.
Why is it called "Dante Must Die" if I'm playing as Nero?
>>738318367Cause he must die.
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>>738317787Stop communicating like a toddler. Go wash your ass.
>>738307946>>NOOO THEY NEED TO KEEP MILKING IT FOREVERyesstop being a greedy niggerfaggot
>>738307752Because giving a franchise an actual conclusion is a good thing. They are supposed to be stories with a beginning, middle, and end, not "forever brands"Dead is better. Look at what happened to the MCU and Star Wars, they should've died/ended YEARS ago. Don't make the urge of wanting endless content slop convince you otherwise.
>>738307752give them time to cook. it's not resident evil you can just copy paste every year.
>>738315864>It was, by far...the worst.Ftfy
>>738323049Nigga they literally copy and paste pre made assets by third party companies in every title so DMC6 will be no different.
>>738307752There's no one at Capcom that can make a new one, frankly I'm surprised that Capcom can bring themselves to respect that and just let it die. Might be a different story now that Kamiya is back, so we'll either see DMC6 full of minigames or it'll stay dead since he doesn't seem like the type of guy that likes sequels all that much.
