So, this is a full priced game, with expansions that get as expensive as 90 bucks, yet it still has hundreds of pieces of microtransactions AND a fucking paid battle pass? How THE FUCK are people okay with this?
It isn't a game, it's a cash shop with an entry free. They're ok with it because they're zombies, not people.
Blizzdrones are a special kind of retard.
Friendly reminder: shillthreads never have porn in them. You can see this in every diablo 4 thread from the past 2 weeks. Before that the threads died before 50 posts.
>>738308826How are you coming to the conclusion that I'm shilling the game? I think people should be shot for supporting shit like this.
>>738308431>gameBattle pass and shop is nothing but cosmetics. Expansion cost me $40.Also are you poor or something? The game is doing well since the latest update, so cope and I hope your financial situation improves.
>>738308887I am not, I am pointing out the various shillthreads we had that suddenly all hit bumplimit. They are filled with "lol blizzard" posts with the occasional "'im having a blast" type post to bump it before it reaches page 10.
>>738308431if you are smart, you should just let these morons fund the game development just like WoW drones did for the last 20 years.Then buy the game when they have released last expansion. There, you got full value, developed software with all features for the cheapest price. Funded by idiots.Just play PoE or something else in the mean time.
To be honest, I don't give a fuck.Are the shop item prices overpriced? Yes.Is the shop intrusive or insist upon itself, like in korean/chinese or even western freemium fames? No.You have to go out of your way to enter the shop and look at the stuff there. You can completely ignore it. If people want to pay outrageous prices to have ugly weapon or armor skins lifted from WoW, go ahead. I can't even blame Blizzard for setting the prices like that because there are idiots who actually pay for them, then why wouldn't they? I would do the same if I was Blizzard.But none of this concerns me. I'm not the target audience for these shop items, and I don't go out of my way to get outraged. I actually like the game, my only problem is that I ended up making my Paladin in a way that I just walk around mobs and the wing strikes auto zap everything. I could make some other more active build but I feel I would get a lot weaker by doing that so thinking of rerolling to some other class. But it's too bad because I was looking forward to playing as Paladin but it just isn't that fun in my current build.
>>738309074>>738309110Literally 1 minute and 1 second apart with the same writing style.
I watched it on YouTube and saved 90 bucks and a time investment of hundreds of hours.
>>738309163Literally, what are you even trying to say? That was my first and only post in the thread. Go cope somewhere else.
>>738309256Sure.
>>738309256>Defending microtransactions>Defending microtransactions in a game you have to buy>Just ignore it broWho do you think you are fooling?
Tencent shill thread
>>738309308Get help.>>738309352Yes, just ignore it bro. That is my argument, and you have no counterargument, because you know I'm right.
>>738308431>comsetic garbageI just ignore it and play the gamethe menu is so laggy and slow that I dont even redeem the free pass rewards
>>738308431People who buy full priced games with no updates are the biggest cancer killing games and I'm glad they're a dying breed.
>>738308431Each expansion adds the last expansion to it. Base game is 50 bucks, base game plus newest expansion is 70, which adds all the previous expansions. You don't need micrtransactions, its just fucking skins and shit, there are tons of free shit you can unlock, battle pass is just more skins and shit. I do not understand fucks who sit here and complain about shit you dont fucking need in game to play the fucking game. PoE has WAY fucking more expensive ass micro transactions and you faggots talk about that like its the second comeing of christ
>people are not only okay with it>they are actively defending it
>>738309701>Trying to set up another PoE vs Diablo narrativeNoone mentioned PoE and microtransactions are never ok. I get that you grew up eating shit but don't seethe at others pointing it out.
I want my renown back.
>>738309771Yes, we are okay with it and explained why. Sorry that your thread didn't go the way you thought it would. This isn't your safe space, if you want to be in a bubble, shielded from opinions different from yours, try Reddit.
>>738309701>PoE has WAY fucking more expensive ass micro transactions and you faggots talk about that like its the second comeing of christPoE is also free and has more content than D4 and far superior gameplay.
Just got this yesterday from humble bundle>even before i reach the main menu i get a full screen ad that Warcraft skins are available for paypigs>online only>can't even pause even if i'm playing solo>when i enter a different zone and the game starts stuttering and shitting itself for like 10 secs>if i idle for 15 mins i get kicked out (solo)this frankly sucks
>>738309851
>>738309841Isn't it still there on Eternal? There must be some way to get the extra skill and paragon points I thought that it was just removed for Seasonal characters to push the rewards into the Season journey instead?
>>738309992This is you btw, being a sad faggot about a game that you will never play.
>>738309992Yes, hopefully you're not dumb enough not to realise that you're talking about yourself here.Right?
SOON hopefully
if anyone supports paid skins you should kyseven worse if it's in a paid gameyou're part of the cancer
>>738310090The thread is about criticizing D4. You are defending it.
>>738310248No. The thread is about D4, which I like. As I said before: this isn't your safe space, if you want to be in a bubble, shielded from opinions different from yours, try Reddit.
>>738309995I grinded all those gay little quests for each area of the map so I can get any build off the ground quickly and so I can have more red pots. They took that all away in favor of this gay ass skill tree rework that didn't need to happen. There's no incentive to play, I've already done my grind I don't want to do it again. And eternal is lame.
>>738308635fpbp, /thread
bratty shills owe me sex
>>738310112will they fix the boring gameplay with zero impact combat?will they fix the god awful skill trees?
>>738308431Because Blizzard fags will eat it up. Like every other Blizzard IP, Diablo has built up such a massive following back in the day that some normie will just buy their games by default no matter how shitty they are. Even Diablo 3 with all its problems and controversies still managed to sell in absolutely staggering numbers.
>>738310410This is the OP: >So, this is a full priced game, with expansions that get as expensive as 90 bucks, yet it still has hundreds of pieces of microtransactions AND a fucking paid battle pass?>How THE FUCK are people okay with this?The topic is already the bad monetization of D4. And you're defending it because you're a shill.
>>738308431
I’m playing Diablo 2 instead
>>738310112Grim Dawn was fine, but I honestly don't really care about another expansion. Titan Quest 2, on the other hand, I'm looking forward to.
>>738311214Nice.
I know people will hide behind the "muh blizz launcher" excuse, but even if three's 10 times more players on there the numbers are still trash. The game is getting completely assraped by GGG.
>>738310112>won't fix the awful UI>won't fix the awful looking dumpster maps>won't fix the stupid base game + expac plot (at least first expac)yeah I want to play the new expac but I want them to fix all of these
>>738311238tits too fat
>>738311346I likem em like that.
>>738310114Fucking cunts i hate themAll of this shit should be avaiable to loot in game
>>738309256why are you pretending to be me?
The new generation of zoomers got successfully groomed into retarded paypiggies thinking this is normal. I kept warning them about the fortnite skins, they bought them anyway. Then they cried that all that money wasted they could use as csgo skin trading. They will never learn.
>>738311493Pain and losing money are amazing teachers.
>>738308431it's truly absurd. it's not even a nice platform to use, loading into the shop and claiming items is so slow and it just feels gross, with all the obscured monopoly money currencies too. the battlepass is even split into multiple things and there's a WoW crossover event right now which is a whole separate premium battlepass.the absolute best i can say is that if you didn't play since launch you get both expacs and all the content there for the price of one expansion, which is decent "value". that does however screw over already active players lol.>>738311286i didn't even know it was on steam. those are pretty good numbers. d4 has a lot more casual 'campaign only' players and the battlenet as main platform consideration is undeniable. 350,000 active would be trash? there's so much legitimate criticism of d4/blizz yet you go for ape like tribalism instead? very telling.
>>738308431It's a live service game disguised as a diablo game.They clearly saw how much Diablo Immortal raked in and wanted veen more.Why is the LoH story so fucking bad.
Boomer perspective. The monetization of skins killed a very cool aspect of MMOs and ARPGs. Back in the day the way your character looked was directly tied to your in-game achievements. There was a clear visual hierarchy, the best players looked the sickest. When you were running around with godlike gear you'd literally have people following you around, trying to strike up conversations about how you got it etc. These days everybody looks like a fucking demi-god, it's silly.
>>738308431It is on the monthly humbe bundle. Aren't those things like $12 or $15?
>>738309446>bro just eat around the steaming pile of dogshit on your plate, you dont have to eat it if you dont want itNow present a counter that isnt>food analogyYou wont, because you have none, because it makes you realize how fucking retarded your "argument" was in the first place.
>>738308431Theyre not. Diablo 4 flopped and is still failing to hold a player base.
>>738311667PoE has cosmetic rewards for placing well in races and stuff.
Just don't get it then, do it for you, I won't pay that.
What a return to form, the latest expansion was truly lightning in a bottle. I'm trying out the new warlock class and having a blast
>>738311751PoE challenge rewards are skins done right. With the exception that they should be even harder.
>>738311667I remember the big thing in old wow was what shoulders a dude was wearing in pvp. If he had his 2200 rated shoulders you knew it was gonna be a rough fight.
>>738311089The topic is D4. That it has bad monetization is your opinion. Get it right.And I'm not even defending it in the classic sense. My argument is that it doesn't matter, it's perfectly fine to ignore it. It's a little more nuanced than simply defending it, but I can see why admitting that wouldn't help your cause hence you are so adamant to frame this exclusively in extremes. To be honest, you don't sound intelligent enough to continue this conversation and you are constantly attempting to find a grip on me with disingenuous ways to frame my arguments.>>738311690So first you turn this into a food analogy, and now you demand me to respond with non-food analogy. I won't ask you to explain how this makes sense to you, because it's a waste of time. You're just a complete idiot, and you're out of your mind if you think I'll engage with this.
>>738311802Very organic 4chan post right there.
>>738311854Holy shit, you're fucking fuming.
>>738311854>That it has bad monetization is your opinion.That's an objective fact, retard.
>>738311548>no nipscalling the cops
>>738312049Ye, depends if the artist is gay. Some at least show the areolas. Don't like the trend much anyway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5eax4wKWJMBest ARPG player says the game is dogshit.
>>738310531>>738311238>>738311434Demon place is under my boots you filth shit
Funnily enough, Path of Exile is both free and a better game.Path of Exile 2 not so much.
>>738312142>gets all his opinions from youtubersholy shit, you are fucked
>>738312160
>>738312247Refute his points.
>>738311854>no retortLike I said, you're a fucking retarded faggot lmao. Always laughing at you gullible, useful corporate cocksuckers who try to die on the hill of making the industry worse for everyone, including yourselves. Cant imagine being more cucked than you are.
>>738312228>PoE>freean illusion, reallyit's more like a free trialstill costs less than this, of course
seething troons and poe playersits the same circle
>>738312504I bought a $15 stash bundle like a decade ago, and never needed more.
>>738312425There are no interesting mechanics in POE1/2 mapping either. Expecting that from Diablo is bad faith, especially attempting to say that LE has more engaging mapping, that is by far the worst in the genre. Agree with pretty much everything else but the mapping point is garbage, mapping in every game is a means to an end, either through pinnacle bosses or harder content, and the issue is that Diablo doesn't have any aspirational content to keep mapping worth it as a progression mechanic. Arguably this is missing from POE2 as well and LE only has a single pinnacle boss.
>>738312504I've been playing for years and never spent any money on it. It is free.
Notice how they keep diverting to PoE
>>738308431NINETY DOLLLLLLLAAAAAARS?!?!?!?!?!?!??! like you buy collector's editions
>>738310112this image makes my peepee feel funny
>>738312591jesus christ how horrifying
>>738312579>There are no interesting mechanics in POE1/2 mapping either.That's a straight up lie, but whatever, you're clearly not interested in a good faith discussion. Enjoy your slop.
>>738312719>Enjoy your slop.but I'm not the one playing PoE1 or 2...
>>738312637you know what they say about white women and their dogs right
>>738312425>Some people shit on Diablo 4 for having repetitive endgame stuff>Meanwhile they praise Diablo 2 for being the hottest shit ever when its endgame content is just baalruns and cowruns or uber tristram
>>738308431They just released a WoW collab set that's on sale and it's still more expensive than the fucking game. Blizzards greed knows no bounds.
poetrannies seething kek
>>738312719I've done 40/40 the past 12 leagues and regularly clear uber pinnacle content SSF. Pick your game, 1 or 2, and explain the interesting mechanics that would be engaging to a veteran beta player of the games other than the addition of new crafting mechanics.
Troonathan lied. Poe died.
>average poe troon every time blizzard pops up in their mind (every 5 mins)
>>738312745yeah, call me the air bud
>>738312319Keked but you are still demon fucking filth
>>738312908What the fuck are you talking about? He claimed PoE has no interesting mapping, which is bullshit. The Atlas system is great, and a allows for more different farming playstyles than any other ARPG. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qtg-tdYL_K5GjFxCHkEzDs2XZ7DPEsMak0AcXYKvpOo/edit?gid=949527720#gid=949527720
>>738312753Everything depends on itemization and gameplay flow.Shitty boring items and screenwide nuking while running sanic fast only panders to the ADHD retards (build entirely copied from online guides ofc).
idk im enjoying it
>>738313171D2 itemization is bad . No, every build using the same 3 overpowered items and runes isnt good designD2 gameplay flow is shit
Rod won.Wyatt won.Chris won.Troonathan lost.Troonkaizer lost.Jew69 lost.Bigly.
>$70 to start payingeh>160+ hours of grinding for worthwhile gearhmm?>$100+ dollars for instant worthwhile gearfuck that.>you're supposed to keep farming the same areas for eternity because number must go updouble fuck that
>>738313228Behold, the most retarded post of 2026!And it's only May.
>>738313150Yes, a decade old game has more content in it. Is that really so unbelievable to you? I never stated Diablo mapping was good, but the entire google doc of strategies you listed has a single purpose, farm currency to upgrade your character for aspirational content. People measure POE farming strategies as if they were a job, listing their div/hour as a salary. That is not "engaging" or "interesting", you pick and choose the content farm (designed by another person) your build (designed by another person) can run most efficiently so you can purchase gear upgrades (crafted by other people) to finally run the "hard" content in the game. I really enjoy POE, especially making my own builds and pushing, and it is definitely 100% more interesting than Diablo from a progression standpoint, but the atlas system in POE1 is pick your 2 mechanics and put all the points into them + quant and affix effect, and the POE2 atlas is dogshit which is why we're expecting a major overhaul in 0.5You can find enjoyment out of more games in the genre rather than making up culture war bullshit like some polifag mutt
>>738308431calling them people is a bit generous ain't it
>>738313353>just making shit up blatantlyseething
>>738313150>CURRENCY making tier listGood job showing exactly what is wrong with PoE.
>>738313228Truth, diablo 2 is best when you finish on standard the longer you play the worse game become
>standard
>>738313517>people play ARPGs for loot Shocker, I know.
i plan on playing this without ever spending on any mtxwhat do you actually miss out on? is it cosmetics or QoL?
>>738313767Only cosmetics, and the free transmog is better than any other arpg currently once you've collected and salvaged enough gear.
>>738313767Only cosmetics
>>738313659Loot is the items you equip on your character.The concept doesn't exist in PoE because everything you drop is just converted to currency so you can buy items you wear instead of dropping them.
>>738313907If you had ever played PoE you'd know that "currency" refers to crafting materials.
>>738313958nta, you just agree with him retard
>ITT PoE shills trying to discuss D4 monetization while ignoring their cosmetics that are priced higher than entire AAA gameslollmaolmfao, even
>>738313958Which you use to buy items because using them to 'craft' is suboptimal and a waste.Which you would know if you played the game.
>>738314009I didn't. You just also don't know how PoE actually works.
>>738314060see>>738314054retardenjoy piloting whatever build zizaran tells you to play in 0.5
>>738314094>enjoy piloting whatever build zizaran tells you to play in 0.5I'm literally playing multi mirror builds every league and would never touch a build of that gay retard.
>>738312425>Refute his points.D4 isn't trying to be POE. That's it.>>738313363Almost every Set is useless in D2 because Runewords powercrept them.
Dont forget you HAVE to buy the expansions to play after the main campaign at allOR use the full skill treeYes the skill tree is dlc gated
>>738314141and yet here you are trying to argue some made up semantics that other people don't understand what currency in poe is. retard
>>738314206I bet you never used a single hinekora's lock in your life.
>>738314205extra storage is also gated behind the expansions now
>>738314274Actually? jesus christ
>>738314141Did you drop all the loot worth multiple mirrors or did you get it from someone else like a cuck?
>>738314254I haven't since they removed their ability to predict double corrupts because it's more efficient to just sell them and keep blasting nowretard
>m-m-muh pooeIs that the only defence Blizzdrones have? Both are shit.
d4s ui is mobile tier slopthe skills have 0 weight to themthe endgame is a clustered messall of that besides this >>738314205 >>738314274
>>738308431FYI its in the humble choice this month.
D4 is fine but it's overpriced as fuckJust play D3 instead tbdesu
>>738314420>Not a steam key>Not even a key at all you need to link battlenet to your account>Base game onlyTerrible
>>738308887Fucking shill. Go shill your UE5 goyslop for goyim somewhere else, goy.
>>738308431They arern't, everyone hated Diablo IV and mocked it relentlessly upon release.Only morons and the chinese (same thing, really) continue to play it.
>>738314352Yea, before the actual shills got driven off by porn you can see them trying to pivot to PoE vs Diablo again. Now it's just the actual retarded fanboys in here doing it
>>738308431Anon, I wouldn't play an arpg if it was free.
>>738313463I played the game for like 15 hours right before Vessel came out. I know what I'm talking about.
>>738308431If you're still playing Blizzard games you deserve everything you get.
Holy blizzdrone meltdown.
>>738309163>There's no way TWO (2) people fucking shit on D4, it's impossible!what the fuck is wrong with you, nigger
>>738317595>Buy the game>Just ignore the cancerous shopYea they sure are "shitting" on D4
