This game is better than the original and I'm tired of pretending it isn't. All the additions make the town feel like an actual town and not just video game setpieces. The characters talk like human beings and not random VAs that don't even know how the characters look like or in what situation they're in.
You only played the HD version with the California anime voice actors.
>>738313261I played EE. You can clearly see how there's no voice direction in any cutscene James VA doesn't know how he's supposed to say things so everything is voiced the same strange awkward way.Only perfect voice is Mary
>>738313121It's a tie for me. Love them both for different reasons and can easily see why people prefer either.Love the town add-ons but it was never an issue for me in the original where the town had an almost identical layout and you just imagined that there was something inside the un-enterable flowershop etc.I don't have a problem with the voice acting in either. I believe it's James actor who explained they were told to sound mentally fragile like asylum patients who sound offputting to talk to. The VAs definelty knew what the characters looked like and were doing because they were the face and performance captured the scenes.The remake goes for a more generic Hollywood movie or Netflix type of speech that I think is also well executed but Angela's face does stick out from the rest of the cast and they put the camera right in Laura's face sometimes which I don't think her acting really holds up to at times, especially the VHS secene. The remake adds things I love and prefer but also forms new cracks that make it feel less tight in some aspects than the original. Overall both games have strengths and weaknesses over eachother to me that leave them tied for me.
The remake ruined the music and execution of the story, which was the whole reason anyone liked the original. Sure, the game is easier to play, but the combat is generic bamham mash x garbage anyways, so who gives a shit? Smooth controls were never a goal of SH2, more atmosphere and storytelling. Basically, the remake is a decent game, but if you really want to experience Silent Hill 2's story with all its original intentions, you have to play the original.
>>738314065Okay if the direction was for them to sound autistic then good job to the VAs but personally I don't like it, everytime I hear them it takes me out. SH3 had the best voice acting, the way Heather speaks doesn't feel fake/movie like at all. I do agree that the remake has generic VA but I like it that way better than the autistic direction.Angela is really ugly and has tumblr line delivery but Laura felt alright, nothing special or horrible.>>738314212The music was completely ruined that is true but the story is still the same, well worse since the music is bad. SH2R is definitely not easier, in SH2 you just hold sprint without any survival elements in 2R you can't ignore everyone.Also dude, this is a video game not a movie, the gameplay does matter. What is the point of SH2 when Blue Velvet exists if you don't care about the gameplay aspect at all
Nobody cares about your stupid fucking opinion.
>>738313121It improves a lot from the original, especially the boss battles. The Eddie fight is dramatically improved. But the stilted voice acting and camera angles of the original still give it a vibe. And the worst thing the remake does is mess up the ending by adding eerie, creepy music over Mary’s letter. Ruins the tone of the scene, doesn’t feel as emotional.
>>738314765Then leave the thread fartface
>>738314901>camera angles of the original still give it a vibeThat is true but it's such a double edged sword since when you're actually playing the game it's horrible but in the right places it really elevates the game. The remake should've really had some fixed camera shots
>>738313121>UE5 slop>Vatnigger shit>DEI shart>OTS action cancer>terrible new script and OST>god awful pacing, with everything taking 4x longer>butchered cinematography >babby tier puzzles, nerfed explorationJewnami shills are getting desperate
>>738313121the shitty voice acting in the OG did add a lot of soul and became iconic, but people pretending like it was trash on purpose are coping. the performances are dogshit
>>738313121things that are actually better:>loop theory being canon>new endings>notes are more intricate>maria's design is way better; she is not a prostitute anymore but stylish; in the OG she was way too different from mary and I always thought he never actually loved mary because of this>boss battles are better>james is miles better than in the OG, you really feel for him, but the game also doesn't shy away from his darkness
>>738313489>You can clearly see how there's no voice direction in any cutscene James VA doesn't know how he's supposed to say things so everything is voiced the same strange awkward wayOn the contrary.Team Silent were told to be spartan detail maniacs, and every single scene and delivery was practiced countless times.The MCU era zoomers who think that low grunting into the mic counts as "acting" just cannot wrap their heads around the fact that James IS actually an awkward incel, who only talks smooth, suave and confident in his mental monologue, but totally drops his spaghetti when talking to real people. Especially women.This applies to the combat and enemy designs as well, with Jimbo effortlessly stomping on feminine creatures, only ever being challenged by MALE beings.
>>738316767That is such retarded reasoning it's crazy. This is why SH2 fans have a horrible reputation
if the remake had an OG OST swap dlc, it would have been pretty perfect
It was too long and needed more enemy variety, beating the same legs over and over again got old really fast.
>>738315252Just fuck off zokmer nigger.The cinematic camera angles in classic RE and SH games are VASTLY superior to this generic SH:HC x TLOU over-the-shoulder slop. You action game homos cannot seem to chill down and adapt to the games' rules.>>738316542There is nithing shitty about the OG voice acting. Not in 2001, not in 2010, and absolutely not in 2024+2 either.In fact, the OG VA job is masterclass level stage play acting, that is easy to follow, very nuanced and emotional.>>738316721All of that shit are some of the many reasons why the demake sucks ass. Fuck the loop fags especially.Also, every single character in the game was raped beyond salvation. They liok, act and sound completely off, one dimensional, and tropey as hell.
>>738313121>The characters talk like human beings and not random VAs that don't even know how the characters look like or in what situation they're in.It's almost like the game is supposed to feel like a dream where communicating with others is difficult and they speak random nonsense.Kill yourself you stupid inferior NPC
Silent Grill
>>738317080>In fact, the OG VA job is masterclass level stage play acting, that is easy to follow, very nuanced and emotional.bait used to be believablealso funny that the only ones repulsed by the looop theory are men lmao they just need their self-insert to be redeemed and get a daughterwife. get fucked and repeat the loop, faggot
>>738316895Not an argument, schizo Bloopooper troon. All the statements I made are confirmed by the official Making of SH2 documentary that shipped with the OAL version day 1, further cemented by the interview with the Guy Cihi, circa 2010, when the previous Jewnami clusterfuck, the SH HD COLLECTION, was coming out.Last but not least:SH1 > 2, in every conceivable manner.
>>738317239>Making of SH2 documentary that shipped with the PAL versionFTFM, fuck I hate mobile posting
>>738317175>for me...it's always like this
>>738317080The angles in RE are really good, the camera in SH is awful since it tries to be two things at once.
>>738317239>SH1 > 2, in every conceivable manner.Agreed,1 > 2 >>> 4 > 3SH2 music is nice though
The shadows in the original look way more creepy. And the acting is better too.
>>738317080>OG VA job is masterclass level stage playkek
>>738317424Yeah but then again they're 5 seconds long then you go back to easily the worst looking SH taking you completely out of it
>>738316521my only complaint is how long it takes like fuck i'm not doing another 20 hours
I’m glad I don’t have to lie to myself just for the sake of being a delusional nostalgia fag
>>738317846How the fuck do people stretch the game so much that it reaches 20? I feel like I backtracked and explored everything yet I finished it in 14 hours. I thought it was the perfect length, the hotel did stretch a lot more I thought I was gonna finish the game in an hour when it was like 3-4
>>738317424Modern devs don't know the purpose of lighting.
>>738313121They raped the heavens night song. Completely unforgivable for me. Maria is awful looking. They made the boss fights retarded. The first boss fight against pyramid head being in the tiny room so its claustrophobic and tense turned into him running at you in a big room breaking through stuff like a steam train. There's just constant little problems like this through the whole game that add up.
>>738318163>tenseman you just enter the room sit still and shoot him without movingThey also gave us a claustrophobic PH fight later which was really good
>>738316767Please remember that Ito completely hates faggots like you and doesn't consider you a fan
>>738313121the cult crap in the first game is so dumbripping off decent hollywood slop like jacob's ladder and david lynch movies was a much better idea
>>738318535Ito is a faggot himself, and passive aggressive one, like he actually tried to sabotage the remake by streaming constant retarded suggestions to the devs.
oh shit I realized that OP is a shill talking about the demake, nevermind
>>738318841>ito agrees with the schizo fanbaseOh, he's such a great artist. This is why SH is so good>ito disagrees with the schizo fanbaseUmm he was always a faggot and it's always bad when the artist reveals the art also we shouldn't take seirously anything he says in regards to monster design it's not like he knows everything
>>738313121I'm sorry to hear the surgery didn't help, sister. Just stay strong in your HRT journey and I promise gender euphoria will be yours.
can't wait for gooper to fix SH1
>>738319929don't know if you're ironic but i am genuinely excited for sh1 and 3 remake especially since those games aren't cutscene heavy
>>738316721>in the OG she was way too different from mary and I always thought he never actually loved mary because of thishow are you this stupid and still allowed to breathe on your own?
>>738320387me too, honestly. I will definitely play them
>>738320390>no argumentyou only fuck hookers, we know
It's basically the opposite of the original in most ways. Every possible upgrade is also middling at best though.Better combat, but not fucking good enough for how much of it there is. Just constant, repetitive monster beatings watching James' retarded ass slide 4 feet forward so his animations collide with the enemy. Over and over.Better graphics, but it definitely loses something without the claustrophobic and iconic static camera angles that made a lot of moments more memorable in the original as well. James' hair also looks weird and glowy, and it has some of the typical UE5 issues like ghosting and alpha issues.The acting is better, but James' performances ends up feeling like a soap opera.
>>738316721>Better boss battles>In the animation cancel iframe dodge game where enemies have static revenge valuesLol. They're bad in both.
>>738314901>especially the boss battlesI like the remake but lol no
>>738320676I never said the combat was good, it's atrocious. but the boss battles are way better, that's all
retards will look at remake abstract daddy fight and say that the og is betterjust ignore them
>>738319787well redeemed, saar
>>738320561WE ARE FUCKING HOOKERS IN THIS TOWN BIIIITCCHHH
I'm not a fan of the over the shoulder camera, it's harder to dodge enemies now as the camera is so close to James back.
can we at least all agree, this is way better than SH F(ail)
original gapes the demake with a rusty pipe
>>738321158Yes, by far. I was so excited for it since I love Higurashi/Umineko but I just alt f4'd forever after I got to the Sakuko boss fight. Genuinely the most forgettable SH ever could've been generational but they decided that zoomers love soulslikes so let's make SH into one with fucking otherworld dungeons.
>>738321158Despite its problems, I'd rather play F because at least that game can justify its own existence.
>>738320791If the combat is bad how are the boss battles better? I beat SH2 multiple times and SH2R once. If anything, every boss fight being a 5+ minute slog where you repeat the same inputs ad nauseum is worse then the comedic 30 second chainstuns in the original because now there are more fundamental issues with the terrible fucking combat. Having more phases and stretching out the encounters doesn't make it scarier, more engaging, or interesting. It makes it tedious. James is functionally an immortal demigod in SH2R.
>>738321310but would you ever replay F? after unlocking the chainsaw, SH2R becomes really nice. I would never replay that dogshit combat heavy pile of shite F though
>>738321469>James is functionally an immortal demigod in SH2R.??? How the fuck do you ever die in the original. What is this complaint? OG retards are so insane
>>738321158Cancelled my pre order of SH f when I saw the combat.It's too bad because I was really hyped for a SH game set in Japan.
I like being able to enjoy remakes while still acknowledging that the original is overall better, endlessly seething over every aspect of them like they killed your family must get exhausting.
>>738313121Do you also like The Return more than the first season or FWWM, zoomer?
>>738325702I like the return more than the second season and the movie.
>>738313121It's a bloated piece of shit that shouldn't exist.
>>738325912enough about your mom
Hey /horg/ zoomer retard, you really made a /v/ thread to shit on the original game?You know you haven’t even played the game. Total scum. OP is a rampaging faggot who sucks cock for breakfast.
>>738326398I'm sure your mom is a respected member of the community, right?
yeah
>>738326582you can abuse le game mechanics...? wow...the remake is horrible! thank Science we can play the og and sit afk while mashing A
>>738316895You’ve been attacking SH2 and its fans while shilling the remake for a fucking week you idiotHoly shit I can’t believe you’re actually doing this on /v/
>>738326652sure
>>738324454What’s worse is retarded children who outright refuse to play original games, constantly attempting to downplay significance and artistic value of said original games, while propping up and championing the remake with zero self awareness.
Why did they kill themselves? Are they stupid?
>>738314707There is much more knee cap shot to melee dodge then finishing blow tedious combat in the remake than inoffensive semi servicable combat on PS2. I killed a hundred enemies before I left the apartments (so says my stupid trophy) and the game is way more padded out. Yes it's got better combat but the gameplay wore out its welcome almost immediately and it's much longer.
>>738326652the original didn't have DMC combat arenas though
>>738317424Maria/Mary is the star of the originalJames is the star of the remake
>>738313261What if I told you he didn't play the game at all
>>738328360no? demake james is ugly and doesn't act or sound like a person who is unknowingly lying to the player and himself
Eileen shaving
>The SH2 schizo is backJust admit you're making these threads, retard.Also Angela's face >>738317318 is shopped - she doesn't look like that in the vanilla game.
>>738317424So how about you stop posting shopped screenshots?
Silent Hill 2 is a timeless art piece. Silent Hill 2 Demake is a corporate product of its time that doesn't understand the original at all.
>>738313121>The characters talk like human beings and not random VAs that don't even know how the characters look like or in what situation they're inI disagree. As corny as the early 2000s dub was it actually made the characters sound realistic in my opinion. No normal human being stuck alone in a fog covered town filled with otherwordly abominations is going to sound like an anime character or an action movie star.
>>738313121Salome Gunnarsdottir (Mary/Maria in the SH2 Remake) recently went on a streaming hiatus for about a month and a half and she cannot talk about what she did. This is basically Born from a Wish confirmed.
>>738328905I would argue that they definitely did understand the original, they just simply are not capable of actually making something of equal value. They added stuff to the game that is good, but it's only good because it uses SH2 as homework.Same with the RE remakes.
>>738328905Let's see left to right and top to bottom:>not in the game,>not in the game,>not in the game,>shopped promotional image,>not in the game.>cover art,>ACTUAL SCREENSHOT #1,>shopped screenshot,>cover art,>cover art,>not in the game,>not in the game.>shopped screenshot,>CINEMATIC SCREENSHOT #1>not in the game,>GAME SCREENSHOT #2,So three actual in-game images. Bravo, schizo.
>>738329030She's very cute on her stream and she actually played all the SH games worth a shit back to back to backShe's a more authentic fan than half of the faggot zoomers on this board
>>73832910118+ to post here
>>738329040If you have played their previous games aping SH2 it is a hard sell that they finally understand the original.
>>738329101lel, BTFO>>738329309>no argumentLOL LMAO EVEN
>>738313121>the added endings are really good,>Eddie is a straight-up upgrade and actually looks like a mentally stunted character, rather than having his looks from when he was supposed to be comic relief,>James is a straight-up upgrade,>Angela's looks are worse but the character is better,>worse Maria,>the combat and survival elements are superior in every way, shape and form; SH2 drowned you in resources every step of the way and the enemies were so easy you had to actively try to get hit,>music is on the same level,>town is much better,>>738329040>>738329348You retards, there is no "understanding the original" because the original is a straight up plagiarism of the movie "Lost Highway," not some original work of art.
>>738329008SH3 has realistic sounding chars, SH2 chars have down syndrome
>>738313121Maria looks freakishly ugly and her head was too big. Her head was so fucking bobble-head big they went in and nerfed it with a patch. That alone would make the original better, ignoring the myriad things that also make the original much, much better. reddit fags, trannies and zoomers need to be euthanized. I genuinely think they wouldn't mind being killed, what with how little agency or capacity for discernment they have
>>738329486Are you still pretending to be different people, schizo?
>>738329575that was the first post I made in this thread, tranny. also the person on the right is not maria. you'd know that if you played either game
>>738329658Where did I say it's Maria, schizo?
>>738329416Ok fine. Bloober didnt understand either.
>>738329154She's still an awful Maria, the worst of the characters in the remake.
>>738329715ohhh you're a pedophile tranny makes sense.
>>738328905yeah basicly. the original game is a wierd af, surreal, and very unique game that constantly made you feel really weird and use your brain really hard to understand the story, characters, themes, and even things like visuals and music from many different angles. it was made by very weird and creative people who were allowed to make weird and creative things. remake is a very simple and generic horror flick that directly tells you how you should feel and think because it was made by very simple and normie developers who could not create anything original themselves
>>738318819>the cult crap in the first game is so dumbThe "cult crap" is ripping off "Rosemary's Child." Remember than the director of SH1 just straight up said in interviews "the cult" are Satanists. It's the later titles that started retconning them into something either more vague (SH2), moronic (SH3) or weird (SH4).
>>738329903>made you feel really weird and use your brain really hard to understand the story, characters, themes, and even things like visuals and music from many different angles. it was made by very weird and creative people who were allowed to make weird and creative things.What a fucking bunch of nonsense. The entire story is a rip-off a David Lynch movie. It's extremely straightforward, and the "twist" was figured out before the game's release just based on press releases and trailers.People shat all over its pretentious """psychology""" aspects at the time, which is why the game sold much more poorly than the first one.
>>738329416The combat is almost turn based with the magnetic homing, windups and i frames. It's better but that counts for beans when it gets focused on so much more and exhausted 1/3 through the game. >EddyLooks comically evil and gross. Sorry if there is a guy who looks like that but that's what casting is for. >survival and resourcesAlso drowning in those past the apartments. >music is on the same levelOk you are trolling. They don't know the meaning of restraint.
>>738313121>>738313489You are a braindead retard and these are not made for you. You don't have the cognitive range to understand the nuance of why a game like SH2 shouldn't be remade. It doesn't matter if the game is good or not. (it isn't) It doesn't matter if its better or not (it isn't ). It's very existence is literally pissing on video games as anything but products for goy cattle. >You can clearly see how there's no voice directionjust because you say stuff, doesn't make them true you massive fucking faggot i hope you die and your house burns down :)
>>738329416>the added endings are fanfiction and add nothing to the story>Eddie straight-up looks and acts like the most stereotypical le insane psychopath from b tier boolywood movies instead of like a realistic sociopath he was in the original game>James looks and acts like a meek middle aged sex pest instead of young unnerving wife killer who repressed his own memories and keeps lying to himself and the player >Angela's looks worse and vomits her emotions at you like a cliche movie character instead of acting like a realistic weird and off-putting rape victim >worse Maria>the combat and survival elements are worse in every way, shape, and form; SH2 kept the fights with monsters (who felt like a natural part of the otherworld) perfectly balanced with exploration and scary atmosphere. demake is bloated to hell with annoying and unengaging fights with shitty enemies on every single fucking corner nonstop>music is way worse and generic because Akira became old, tired, and doesn't have the energy or love for trip hop music anymore. there's a reason why everyone keeps listening to the original 2001 OST and no one gives a shit about the demake ost>town is bloated and way more generic. the influence of the otherworld, with a weird, claustrophobic layout of the building and weird white walls that made you feel like you are trapped in your own prison in the original, is nonexistent in the demakedemakefags everyone
>>738329416>plagiarism of the movie "Lost Highway," not some original work of art.I don't know which retarded youtuber said this so you picked it up but please don't emberass yourself. You should actually watch the movie you stupid piece of this. Sh2 influences are documented and has been public since the book of lost memories, which is for more than 20 years. Also this might blow your mind, but just because you are inspired by something, that doesn't mean you are ripping it off you epic mega retard
god sh2 fans are so rabid its funny
>>738313121I enjoy the remake as a whole but my god there is so much TIMEWASTING BULLSHIT that wasn't there before. My first playthrough must've had like 2 hours of filler added on that's all from opening cabinets and smashing car windows and pushing carts around. It didn't need that.
At least Remake 2 and 4 made their respective games into decently challenging survival horror experiences, but the SH2 Remake is just as trivially easy as the original while needlessly padding out the one Achilles' Heel flaw of the original: the fucking combat, while most of everything else is worse or about the same level of quality as the original.I don't think the game is even bad, I just think it's utterly redundant. I am however tentatively excited for a possible SH4 remake, assuming they don't run out of steam with the inevitable 1 and 3 Remakes.
The Chad fans of the original game who value games as an art form VS the virgin demake fags who are just soi coprate product consumers
Which one should I play?
>>738331147SH2 is the only game in the series that managed to be popular over the years. No one gives a shit about the rest of the series. SH1 demake is not going to achieve even half of the sales of SH2 demake. Konami is going to end its partnership with blooper team (holy fuck i keep forgetting that this retarded af name is an actual fucking name of the company) and outsource SH3 demake to even cheaper devs and it's going to sell like shit. after that they will shit out 20 more shitty outscoured games and the franchise will die once again
>>738331524original
>>738331576SH2 is the most popular because it can be fully digested from youtube videos since the gameplay of the original is so fucking bad and simple. SH1R is going to be an actual good survival horror game not the movie fest SH2 is
>SH2 remake is the closest thing this series has gotten to a good game in 20 years>it's just a re-imagining of something that was already goodAll the time I think about what could've been with P.T...
>>738331524both
>>738316767My biggest problem in the remake is James. I’m not a huge fan of the VA in the original, but they really fucked it up the remake. James sounds gruff and cool, not phased or worried by anything, he really strikes you as somebody who can take care of himself. This isn’t helped by the fact he’s dodging bullets and shooting monsters kneecaps, or punching Eddie for getting too close to him like some Chad. The revelation that he’s actually a murderer has no weight, because he’s been presented as a dark triad character from the start. In the original James is an autistic dork, his behaviour and mannerisms are odd, but he seems mostly harmless. Most importantly he appears helpless and out his depth, which makes the situation he’s in feel much more hopeless. And the reveal at the end is shocking specifically because James is such a stereotypical nice guy on the surface. I have no idea why they felt the need to turn him into Joel from the last of us.
>>738331524both, they are different games
Have fun with your 12 hour replays bashing the same 3 enemy types 200 times
>>738313121>The characters talk like human beings and not random VAs that don't even know how the characters look like or in what situation they're in.lmao why are zoomers this retarded
>>738331641This game is dogshit
>>738332981>he's still going at this on /v/It's getting sad at this point, you took a week to play the remake and you can't play the original for 5 minutes without shitting your pants and crying
>>738331759It would have been the greatest modern horror game of all time
>>738329846It's not her fault she was miscast and misdirected, but it is her fault that her performance is stale and nobody will ever remember it
>>738331759I had high hopes for f too. >Silent Hill but in Japan! How could it go wrong??
I like it but I hate the combat so much it feels at odds with how shitty the originals was where it helped with the atmosphere of the townAlso the camera change is kinda assI'd still say the original is better at the end of the day
This fight really isn't as claustrophobic as boomers want you to believe. There is so much space to dodge, the cutscene right after the door did jumpscare me tho
>>738318163>They made the boss fights retarded.An upgrade from the dogshit original.
Nope, original still beats the remake in pure atmosphere and horror
>>738334943>og sh2>horrorkek
>>738321469>James is functionally an immortal demigod in SH2R.SH2R is the only game in the series to actually remember that the protagonists are no guns.
>>738329040> Same with the RE remakes.You means the ones that made the originals obsolete on account of being that much better?
>>738331759It would have been shit and the obnoxious Kojima drones would have stunk up the place.
>>738331524the original, just look at the fucking icons, the contrast is clear which one has more SOUL
>>738334943This is where I don't agree at all. OG SH2 doesn't have a horror atmosphere, it's very sullen and melancholic with moments of horror. The Remake's atmosphere is closer to SH1's, which is actually horrific and overbearing.
>>738313121Look faggot. The original was a horror game and not a typical normieslop one at that. It was weird because it was meant to be fucking weird. The characters besides Laura are supposed to be strange and unstable. This shit about them talking like normal human beings entirely misses the fucking point but I get it. Normalfags hate it because they cannot identify with real people that have real fucked up issues that fuck them up to the point of abnormalcy. The normalfag can only comprehend basic levels of trauma and abuse. This is why Blooper went on to make Angela sound like a normal teen girl and gave her an ugly man face. This is why they also turned Eddie into a monster with absolutely no redeemable qualities whatsoever. So much so to the point that they made him look like a monster of a human being. Again entirely missing the point of the original character but that is because the normalfag again cannot comprehend a bullied nerd that loses it and goes psychotic. The normalfag hates guys like Eddie so its no surprise his character got the most humiliation. You faggots that continue to prefer this ridiculous remake simply don't want to emulate and you sure as hell don't want to buy the original since its expensive these days. The HD remaster is also a shit option and I am sure a lot of normalfags somehow got the memo on that one so they won't buy the HD collection. Although the HD collection at this point is also old and has that "outdated gameplay" that the normalfaggot hates. >tldrThe original is far better. The remake is a slap in the face to the original and ruins the symbolism. It even censored the sexual overtones. Fuck off with this shit.
>>738335901>The original was a horror game and not a typical normieslop one at thatSis, the original literally sold on the PS2, literally THE normiecuck console, and was advertised alongside normieslop like GTA and Final Fantasy. This is like saying RE4 isn’t normieslop.
>you don't stop at heaven nights at all you just go through it in a minuteHoooooooly fucking shit I didn't know the OG is this lackluster. What the fuck. How can boomers shit on the remake when it added so much?
>>738336026The added cutscenes are garbage.
>>738336026You have to realize, the boomers’ life peaked in 2001 as did the eceleb troons they watch and parrot.
>>738332124I don't think remake James sounds gruff and cool at all. He just sounds tired and depressed, which is perfectly in line with what he's going through.Also OG James is simply autistic.
>>738336026>everything needs to be stretched out and padded with shitty content, we need more slop *slurp*That's part of what makes things memorable, but I don't expect a philistine slop cocksucker to understand.
>>738332124>In the original James is an autistic dorkAnd that’s why he’s inferior in to Nu James. Old James sounds like he got lost in the mall trying to find the bathroom. Nu James can switch from charming to cold to depressed to bitter to asshole, and it hits harder because he’s actually likeable this time around.
>>738336001The original didn't sell GTA or FF numbers you fucking moron. It actually underperformed expectations. Its legacy really lives on through word of mouth mostly thanks to the numerous video essays people over these years have made about it. Its what is known as a cult classic or cult hit but in no way did it sell like those games so shut the fuck up retard.
>>738336105>the movieslop game adding more cutscenes that expand on james and maria are le badGenuinely kill yourself, I reached the hospital and SH2 OG feels like a fucking demo. The otherworld in the apartments is one of the saddest shits I've seen, a 10 minute segment. Imagine coming from SH1 to this ugly short piece of shit game where the entire school gets transformed and its all creepy meanwhile in SH2 you meet Angela you get a coin you do a shitty puzzle then "fight' PH and you're done.>>738336296There is NOTHING memorable except for the song. The remake perfectly expanded this area with showing James alcoholism and Marias fun side. I genuinely shouldn't have touched the OG game because it made me realize how much I've been lied to
>>738336026Everything added in the demake is a detriment to the game.
>>738336397It's bad because they suck, Maria isn't even a person retard
>>738336397>expanded this area with showing James alcoholism and Marias fun sideexcept you don't need to be shown any of that to improve the story of the game, it's literally padding for the sake of increasing game time so dumbfucks like you can cope with their purchase better.
>>738336383I’mma repeat this to make it easier for an OGtroons such as yourself. Silent Hill has ALWAYS been normieslop.
>>738335897Even 1 had quiet tense moments, the remake is exhausting and filled with combat and it never lets up on the music even inserting generic horror movie ambience instead of silence. This is a bad thing.
>>738336631Imao, if the remake has too much combat, I can’t wait for you guys to play the 1 remake, SH1 was even more combat heavy than 2. 2 is the outlier to 1 and 3 because it’s more of a walking simulator than game.
>>738336496>>738336589You are coping so fucking hard it's sad. If these were in the OG you'd jizz in your pants how amazing it is that they're adding so much character to everyone.No wonder SH2 sold way less than SH1 and they had to put Harrys daughter in 3 to bring back the fans. I'd instantly return my copy after seeing the graphics and how short all segments are
>>738336806Projection
>>738336806if these segments were added to SH2 by the original team they would have put their artistry behind it instead of being the sorry slop we've got.
>>738336741the radio in 1 would literally never shut up and i had to savescum on hard because of those babies in school humping my leg constantlyi can't wait for the remake to dodge them fuckers and bash their head in
>>738336741I just replayed 1 this summer on my ps3. I know it has more enemies than og2. The combat isnt as tedious or time wasting. And the rooms are sectioned off. Unlike SH2 remake where the straightjackets in the apartments pool followed me into the save room FUCK BLOOBER.
>>738337059>game gives you a fuckton of ammo and health pots>dont use them>URHGGRHDGDRHIDGFHI WHY IS THE GAME PUNISHING ME FOR NOT PLAYING THE GAME ??? I THOUGHT IM PLAYING DETROIT BECOME HUMAN WHERE IS THE NEXT CUTSCENE I DONT WANT GAMEPLAYKill Yourself
>>738337153Sorry I thought it was clear that you were supposed to nope out of that situation not tediously attack all of them. Why can they wander into the fucking save room, please explain.
>>738337059>he actually had trouble when the remake have you infinite dodges and enough ammo to singlehandedly take down the IRGCDare I say it, skill issue.
>>738337380>tediously>when it's 3 bulletsOh my god spare us all and use one of those bullets on yourself
>>738336026>you dont stop the pacing of the psychological horror game to fight 300 enemies, smash 20 walls, and do 5 pushing cart "puzzles"Hoooly shit the OG really is lackluster!
>>738337504>>738337403I'm telling you dumbasses the combat is tedious and time consuming and you obviously are not supposed to kill all the straightjackets in the pool. Responding in case someone is braindead enough to fall for your attempts.
>>738336026James isn't a big guy
>>738337706Strange. I didn't kill any of them in the pool and left the area just fine. Perhaps a skill issue on your part.
>>738337619SH2 pacing is awful. You go from place to place with no care in between, there is nothing to take in.>oh this is where maria works i wonder if were gonna talk about it or mention it at allNope, just hold W until you reach the next setpiece.
>>738313121I played the remake first. Enjoyed it and found it very scary. Combat was ok, but pretty tedious after awhile, and some of the areas like the prison went on for far too long. Game should have been 3 hours shorter. I also found that the game had very little replay ability. I’m not sure if it’s because of the chainsaw in NG+ making everything easier, but the gameplay simply isn’t good enough to justify another 20 hour slog.Played the original aswell after the remake. Far less scarier than the remake. The camera angles were fine, but I genuinely think over the shoulder is far scarier. Combat sucked, but the game is only like 8 hours long.Overall, I’d say they are about equal
I never got tired of the combat even once during my playthrough of the remake. That said, I did play on Normal so maybe this had something to do with it. Running away from enemies is definitely easy, but choosing to fight was enjoyable too.
>>738337989Same, I liked it because it allowed you to dodge in the middle of attacks so you aren't forced to play it like dark souls. You can still mash on attack like in OG but you need to pay attention to the enemy they aren't just training dummies
>>738336026>>738336397You're not supposed to be constantly checking your phone while playing SH2 OG. The game isn't stuffed with pointless filler and 300 enemies to kill because the devs expected the player to take their time and pay attention to the environments and cutscenes. SH2 remake pads everything out, slows everything down, and adds cutscenes that are either pointless or restate the same information the player already knows so TikTok brainrotted retards don't miss anything.
>>738313121>The characters talk like human beings and not random VAs that don't even know how the characters look like or in what situation they're in.Kind of defeats the lynchian tone team silent were going for no?
>>738338289Why the fuck would I check my phone while playing SH2OG when the all the segments are the same length as a TikTok? I can't get bored while playing them because they're so short.
>>738338289>SH2 remake pads everything out, slows everything down, and adds cutscenes that are either pointless or restate the same information the player already knows so TikTok brainrotted retards don't miss anything.If anything, the original is more retard friendly because there is no tension whatsoever. You can literally walk past everything but the bosses. Unlike SH2R, which demands your attention at all times, you can literally tiktok while playing SH2 because there is nothing to impede you. Hell, you can autoaim and shoot with one hand, and watch some tiktoks with the other lol.
>>738313489>Only perfect voice is MaryAnon do you think there might be a reason that the only person giving a normal voice over is the one only shown from a past lens or in town manifestations?
>>738314707>SH3 had the best voice actingThis is where I always get confused with people, they will see SH1, SH3 and SH4 have rather normal voice work then think that SH2's voice work was a mistake and not an intentional design from the devs. Team Silent knew how to direct voice overs they did it that way in 2 for a reason.
>>738338646She's the only one that got told the script and not only the lines. People keep saying that it's lynchian but it's not, like the I'll see you in 25 years line it's creepy, unnerving, you don't know what the fuck she's talking about but it isn't full autistic down syndrome like James.Even the autistic receptionist in Twin Peaks isn't as autistic as SH2 characters.
>>738338896>She's the only one that got told the script and not only the lines.With the story you're telling it would be kind of odd to reveal the twist to James's actor before getting to it in recording. It would change his performance if the actor knows the twist going in.
>>738338816SH1 had normal to bad VA, but it's fine since it's a PS1 game and their first one. SH2 is awful, it tries to be mysterious but it sounds retarded. SH3 is perfect since they knew what to do and all the characters are simpler. Didn't play SH4 so can't comment on it.
>>738314707>the way Heather speaks doesn't feel fake/movie like at allWhatever happened to Heather Morris? They apparently didn't contact her during the whole HD collection fiasco which is hilarious since her voice was still in it in a few scenes.
