>make a massively successful game>people complain about "fanservice" and "anime tropes" >listen to them and tone down the sequel>sequel doesn't outperform previous title>only impact it had was the harem photo>previous game is still the most relevant entry in the series
>most memorable part of the game was callbacks to 1 and 2 and the DLC focusing on characters from 1 and 2Hope their next game has a bit more oomph to it because I don't think 3 lived up to the Xenoblade name.
>>738313589XB2 is by far the weakest of the 4 Xenoblade games. Terribly designed, complete with a shit gacha system, made even worse by a blade progression system requiring you to heavily backtrack, stupid blade field skills.Torna was XB2 but actually good with thought put towards it's game design.
Correlation doesn't equal causation.There is 0 indication that Xenoblade Chronicles 3 would have performed better if it had characters in the main cast with ridiculously large breasts, or comically oversexualized in some way like Pyra or Mythra was. Only porn addiction is speaking from you.
>>738313589Nice Twitter repost OP
>>738313749>>738313781>>738313997Why do you hate straight White men?
xitterfag bait thread, can't wait for pirat nation or whatever to repost it
>>738313589>people complain about "fanservice" and "anime tropes"What people? This is important.
>>738313589I’ve never played any xenoblade games but the welsh catgirl in clips I’ve seen made my penis hard.
>>7383135893 still had fanservice, it just wasn't in your face about it.
Remember, Juniper is canonically non-binary!
>>738315127Do they ever explicitly say so in-game? People mentioned something about a gender index in the game's code but I heard that's its also used on actual male/female characters.
>>738313589I commend Xenoblade 2 for giving us many spectacular girls and an enjoyable story, but it kinda sucks to think of it as the best one full stop.The gameplay is kinda fucking dogshit. Canceling and auto attack based recharge are such smart ideas, then everything else about 1 that should've become more of a mechanic was either automated, simplified, or removed. Auras? Used on you automatically by your blade, you can only alter which ones you're likely to receive. Status infliction? Barely extant outside of the combo in most weapons. Gems? You no longer have slots to waste on quick step, so now they have to drown you in "40% more damage against flying enemies on tuesdays during rain" instead. Gear? Fucking LMAO, you get one "weapon slot" per blade, three interchangeable slots for consumables, and three interchangeable slots for actual gear. Quests? All the "collect 10 boar asses" shit has been moved to affinity charts, but not actually removed from the game.
>>7383137493 is the weakest, retard.
He's literally me fr fr
Should I play this series? I have 2 days off work and wanna spend 30 hours in a jrpg. Would I have fun?
>>738313589Why don't they just make a good game instead of generic anime shit? Who the fuck is still entertained by "ehto mc-kun am I kawaii desu?" Are you 12?
>>738315435They do.
>>738315408In spite of the shitposters, XC2 is still a phenomenal game. It takes way more than 30 hours though.
>>738315435Why are (You) gae?
>>738315408You could definitely start with 1 or 2, but they'll take more than 30 hrs even speeding through the main story alone.
>>738315482Then why did it flop once they took the fanservice out?
>>738315496>>738315562I could get a pretty good start on them though, Is it worth playing them on switch 2 or should I just emulate them. Ill start with 1 obviously
>>738313749Your taste is shit. XB2 will always be the best in the series.
>>7383135892DE when?
>>738315592It didn't.>>738315601The definitive edition of 1 is a pretty marked improvement over the original. The main thing it changes is the models that were made without the input of a single actual artist, and it's still built on the bones of the original, which ran pretty well all the way back on the Wii.2 has some slightly more questionable performance but I dunno how it does on the switch 2, it might be a big improvement.
>>738315729Yeh I own 1 and 2 on switch, got a switch 2 a couple months ago havent really used it yet, might be good to play them on, unless emulation makes them run and look better cause my pc is really good.
Just finished XB2 and it's fucking garbage. No idea how this shit got so popular and refuse to believe that XB3 is somehow worse. XB1 is great tho, if a bit grindy.
>>738313723For the life of me I still don’t understand why we needed 3. The merging of the worlds could just be a footnote in some new adventure way off in the future. Most RPG fans don’t need a “letting go and moving on” game, because most numbered RPGs are already capable of just building a new world, story, and/or characters without doing it.I can only really write it off as more of a cathartic, masturbatory letting go for the creative team, but XC4 could easily just suffer from the same narrative problems as 3 depending on how they want to continue with what they’ve set up. Just with X and 3 memberberries sprinkled on top now.I’ve got hope, but I’m also fully ready to see the same garbage that happens when a Squaresoft story gets too popular for its own good and they don’t realize no one gives a shit about what Barret’s cousin’s next-door neighbor’s barber’s wife had to do to make rent after the events of FF7.
Is Xenoblade trilogy fully emulatable? Should I play Xenogears/Saga first? I love peak HOLY FUCK THOSE ARE ZAKUS in Turn A. Getting heavily filtered by Gears gameplay though ngl....
>>738316038Yeh it is, switch emulator is good for them. I played xenoblade 1 for a little bit while testing and you can add ultrawide mods and stuff.
>>738315997I think the problem might be that if they started with an entirely new setting again, it would just feel like we were still waiting for the other shoe to drop and reveal what the connection to the previous games was, like in 2. After all, even if it's in a new universe, it wouldn't be Xenoblade if the magic wasn't called ether and the combat techniques weren't called arts, so there would still be enough overlap to look like the same type of thing. You know? So they didn't feel confident in making a whole new setting without first making a game to establish that this setting is more or less over.I'm not sure it was NECESSARY, but I can see a vague line of logic to it.
>>738315698Retard.
>>738315924>refuse to believe that XB3 is somehow worseJust play it and see, dipshit.
>>738315924>local anon plays two games with almost exactly the same combat and gameplay, declares the game they played first the winner
>>738316432>the combat and gameplay is almost exactly the sameLmao?
>>738316525Retard.
>>738316525>auto attacks with cooldown arts and chain attack meters Yep.
>>738315997They clearly intended the world merging stuff to hit harder than it did, but all it really does is cause you to stop what you are doing and realize the area you are in is a mix of two previous areas and go "neat" then get on with playing the game. The game is worth it only for the (admittedly very good) N betrayal scene but you can literally stop playing it after that, and it doesn't help that the entire game up to that point is "find colony, fight a moebius, liberate colony, find colony, repeat..." without any real meaning.
>>738315997Takahashi really, really, REALLY likes dwelling in melodrama. This is a reminder that he has written out in detail a dramatic space opera story, and once planned to make a six game series of 100+ hour JRPGs about the least interesting part as a teaser to drum up interest for the actual meat of the story.
>>738316620>admittedly very good) N betrayal sceneSo when Death Stranding and MGS4 have 1 hour long cutscenes it's bad, but it's fine when XC3 does it because....?
>>738316603If that's the similarity required to be "almost exactly the same" then the original doom plays "almost exactly the same" as doom 2016
>>738316715Go ahead and list all the massive differences then dipshit.
>>738316684It isn't bad to have 1 hour cutscenes in any of those cases. I'm sorry you're stuck trying to impress other gamers from 2004 talking about how you only care about the moments where you push buttons, but please don't take that out on the rest of us.
>>738313589The only relevance xc2 has is the amount of porn being made. Literally no one talks about the game otherwise because that's how bad the story is
>>738316684The payoff is just worth it for the N scene. There is no payoff for Ocelot doing finger guns and talking nonsense for 50+ minutes. I haven't played DS so I can't comment on that.
>>738315592because fanservice is what makes a game good
>>738316782>2004Oh please, those are games are still criticized to this day for having too long/too many cutscenes>>738316803>payoff is just worth it for the N sceneIt only hits hard if you're a huge Miofag like N is. I don't like Mio so it didn't hit for me.
>>738315380Why did you post a picture of me?
>>738313589XB 2 only sold because there wasn't anything else on the Switch.
>>738316279nah, better to do nothing and win
>>738316795No one talks about xc3 at all
>>738316778Deterministic chain attacks, timing based cancels on near every action, active switching of anything resembling equipment mid-combat, and a completely different style of utilities given out as arts. There is nothing even resembling Melia, the most fun playstyle 1 has, in 2.
So is it worth playing these on switch or emulated on pc which is more fun?
>>738313589I don't think about XB3 at all haha
>>738317013So? No one talks about xc2 outside of the porn. It would literally be in the same boat because that's how fucking bad the story is.
Reyn time baby! Alley oop!
>>738317117Man, people really didn't like how 2 bucked the trend of "we are here to kill god" with "journeying hard to meet god, thanking him for everything and then finishing the job yourself without their intervention", huh?I'm convinced that people who hate on 2's story never got past Chapter 3 / 4.
>>738316886>those are games are still criticized to this day for having too long/too many cutscenesAnd the people who complain about "too many cutscenes" have only gotten more retarded about what is "too much" in those years. I was on board with an hour long cutscene maybe being excessive way back when, now I hear that a couple minutes is excessive, still with the same reasoning about how you should never EVER take away the player's control or some shit like that, and in hindsight it all just looks like a slippery slope.
For me is xb2 > xb x de > future redeemed > xb 1 de >xb 3
>>738317225Taking away player control is contextual. A cutscene isn't inherently taking away control if that is how the story of the game is played, but take Resident Evil 6 for example where as you are actually playing the game it is constantly removing your ability to run, access menus, change weapons, manually controlling the camera (You MUST look over here for this room, you can't look away!), etc. Those SHOULD have been cutscenes but instead they just took the most annoying route to "ensure players don't miss things". Worlds of difference.
You'd think tradfags would be all over 3 considering the theme of carrying legacy and marrying & reproducing.
>>7383174392 is already about that though - you just don't know it until you get to the part of the game leading up to and into the world tree.
>>738317221Huh? Nigger I've beaten the game 3 times at this point. I just can't be assed to care about the characters or themes. There's nothing all that compelling about Rex's motivations and character. At least in 1 and 3 the characters feel like something that resembles a human, but in 2 everyone acts like a Shonen stereo type cranked up to the max. The only bits of compelling storytelling is in torna. Everything in the main game is eye roll worthy
Kirby
>>738313589>most relevant entry in the seriesThat always was and still is 1.
X >= 3 > 2 > 1.
>>738316620There definitely feels like elements in miscalculating how much the whole merge thing was going to hit, but I guess it worked for some people. Some still swear Xenoblade 3 is the best RPG ever made. It just feels so damn misguided to me though.>>738316651A case of old habits die hard then? I guess I can buy that. Takahashi really does feel like he needs someone to push back on him sometimes. I know a lot of his best stuff from a writing perspective, is credited to his wife. And I imagine Iwata’s leadership helped a lot, given how interviews seem to tout him as wrangling Xenoblade 1 into being a story-complete game on release. Forcing them to finish assets for what they had set in stone first and the like.
>>738317117>I don't talk about XC2 outside of the porn>therefore nobody talks about XC2 outside of the porn
>>738313749X is the weakest by far. Why do you think they killed it with chapter 13?
>>738313589For me it’s Homura
3 is more consistent quality wise but 1/2 had higher highs. X beats all of them though.
>>738317889NTA but do Xenoblade 2 fans talk about the story? Genuine question, if yes then i respect them
>>738317889>moving the goalpostsYeah, and people are also talking about xc3's story itt too, and you said people don't ever talk about that one either. This just so happens to be a thread specifically about it, and people bringing up a story to say "it's bad" is not the win you think it is
>>738317940Chapter 13 was the peak after xb2
Xenoblade 1 is about accepting le multiculturalism
>>738313589I bought a physical copy of this game recently just because of her tiddies. shits expensive.
>>738316038Xenogears/Saga are very different, for Gears you can check this mod, it has a few QoL features https://github.com/NoharOSP/Perfect_Works_Build
How do you feel about their Smash censors?
>>738316038xenogears is totally different than any of these games. only played it if you love 90s rpgs. it's a damn good game imo, with a top tier OST.
>>738313749X > 2 > 1 > your retarded opinion > 3The end map of 3 was the most low effort disgusting looking garbage I've seen in a long time. The same shitty purple texture tiled on almost everything. I slogged the whole way thinking it would get better like the other XB games and I was greeted with ugly stupid shit. I gave a lot of games a pass for graphics on Switch but the end was such low effort garbage. X was a rewarding end game because you could go around and demolish all those crazy monsters on the map that one shot you for the first 30 hours of the game2 was rewarding because you basically had OP blades. 3 was some low effort shitty dungeon and a stupid ending. How can people talk about the story? It's like the same sub story over and over again with a couple small variations with everyone coming together at the end to beat the big bad guy. >>7383180282 was just a fun story with goofy shit happening. It was a fun adventure. How many times do you wanna talk about the shock value of the one eyed monster joke or meme on Rex "OY WE GOT TO GIT DA ELYSHIUM PIEEERAHHH" The artwork and world were also a lot of fun, you actually got to go into a titan. And the biomes and stuff were fun to explore. People liked 2 because it had a fun story and it was fun to explore the world. 3 was some 2deep4u story and all you did was slog through generic biomes (grass, desert, wow) to go to some colony and defeat some enemy with a letter for a name then repeat.
>>738318028yes, mostly because the story is full of cuck memes, cringey japanese humor, and Rex being a sex pestaka what fans actually want
>>738318323
>>738318323The stockings unironically look good on Mythra, she looks naked (in an empty way) without them.
>>738316432Dumbest post in the thread, and that's saying something considering anons are posting that XB2 is the best.
>>738318345>People liked 2 because it had a fun story and it was fun to explore the worldNo, I fucking hate the story in 2 but agree it has some of the better exploration overall. 2's story clearly stands out as the weakest of the 3.
>>738313589As usual the people who complain aren't the ones who buy your games. Maybe someday retards who make video games will actually understand this.
>>738315323It's just faggots who edit game wiki's arguing about what to put as the characters info.
>>738313589>sequel doesn't outperform previous titleIt sold faster than 2 did in the same timeframe. Why lie?
>>738313589You stole this from twitter, OP. But I will say, this is correct. Literally only memorable stuff from 3 were its connections to 2.
>>738318525they figured it out pretty fast after Concordthat's why SBI has moved on to outright blackmail
>>738318504Huh, for me it's the opposite, 2's story is good fun but the world just doesn't hook me anything like 1's did. Navigating feels outright worse than 1 in most areas and the major areas literally only being connected by warps was a huge downgrade from 1 as well.
Hear that Noah? Lanz wants something a bit meatier.
>>738317439Haremshit isn't trad
>>738317516>3 >the characters feel like something that resembles a humanhahahahahahahah good joke dude
>>738318685I heard sbi broke their company up
What's the better emulator for these, yuzu or ryujinx? I don't have a switch
>>738317949>3 is more consistent quality wiseYeah, 3 is more consistently bad
>>738318867try them both and see what you like better.
>>738318504>2's story clearly stands out as the weakest of the 3.Nope that's 3's story.
>>738318643Are we moving into the “dump Blender smut of the girls getting hardcore fucked and jizzed on” phase of the Xeno thread so soon? Maybe wait until we’re around 200 or 300 post in, anon.
Why do so many /v/ threads end up just being copy/pastes of twitter posts lately?
>>738318485>reddit filename Go back
>>738318935hope someone posts the humiliation dance webm first
>>7383185041 and 2 both were good. But people who like 3's story are the type of people who think clip related is hilarious and coolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_hwgY3LItfE
>>738315408These are 100+ hours long jrpgs.
>>738318936dead internet theory
>>738317946>Homura
X > 2=1 > dog poop sandwiches > 3
>>73831540830 hours isn't long enough for a single good jrpg to date.
>>738313589current woke nintendo will never be this based again
I enjoyed XB2 a lot more than XB1. Probably because XB1's prologue was boring as fuck and even after the attack on the colony, it doesn't get interesting until prison island. It does have a more satisfying final boss fight than XB2 though (seriously, how can you make fighting a giant robot lame?).I had fun with both games but I'd pick 2 over 1 every single time.
>>738313589feminists aren't people.
>>738313749sippybippy
>>7383135892 was great mechanics-wise but honestly the story was a bit of a dud for me, also, moving around outside of battle feels stiff as fuck compared to X and even 1, don't know why, not to mention having to play the Tiger Tiger minigame to upgrade Poppi was stupid, it was so detached from the rest of the game, makes you wonder why they did this when every other system is somehow conncted to another so perfectly.And, yeah, the party members aren't as memorable as Shulk's party, I do like them, though.
>>738313589I don't understand how you people can act like xenoblade TWO was the first one and not realize it's an intentional outlier.Xenoblade 1, 3 and even X have similar tone and atmosphere and 2 is very clearly a lot more colorful on purpose. It has never been intended to be the standard for the series.
>>738314626The fictional people inside his head
>>738319786Same but 2's combat was ruined for me with all the jingle keys useless parts and QTEs during every damn blade combo. 3 was a breath of fresh air and probably my favorite gameplay in the series for dropping the "press B" prompt alone.
>>738313589
>>738313749Agree, 2 is the only game I couldn't finish twice and I tried
>>738319860>Xenoblade 1, 3 and even X have similar tone and atmosphereNot really.
Tatsu is not food!
>>738318867Ever since Nintendo killed Switch emulation, Switch emulation in general is sometimes a gamble and really shit depending on your hardware. Not even a beefy type thing either. For instance Xenoblade games just suck dick with AMD cards. You're going to end up downloading all Switch emulators and their forks because no one is going to fix any of the problems you may or may not encounter.
>>738320129Why the fuck would anyone play 3 twice?
I hate 2But i also love 2There has never been a game as frustrating for me. For every thing i like, there are two things i dislike, but i REALLY like the things i like. I'm really tsundere about it. I dumped 200 hours into it, don't regret it.T. Jaded Gearsfaghttps://youtu.be/muRgzS2HvRU?si=dnbAWO7cHE-8izYK
>>738320174Because it's fun and in your first playthrough you're too busy maxing out classes to fool around with different party set ups.
>>738320401What's fun about it? Exploration sucks and combat is worse than 2
>/v/ is so contrarian they've started overrating XC3
>>738318865probably, China is an honor/shame culture and will kill their own children if anyone insults them too muchand boy did SBI ever carry out their threat, not that it could slow down an actually fun game much
>>738318028Story? No. Worldbuilding, yes and a lot. In fact is a shame that said system was scrapped. Imagine if all the titans in XBC2 were the blades in 2. Brigid replacing Mor Ardain would be the awesome.
But where was the Xenoblade?
>>738320478>combat is worse than 2What the hell are you talking about? 3 has canceling which is the only thing 2 has over 1 or X.
>>738318028Do Xenoblade 3 fans talk about the story aside from that one hour long cutscene?
>>738315642didnt play it dont care. not even the same guy youre talking to, series should've never progressed past the first game and X
>>738314471Because they ruined the world
Want to pass off an Xfag? Insult the dog shit music in X.
>>738320401Based video game enjoyer
>>738321551don't you mean Sawanokino? HUH HUH YEAH YEAHhttps://youtu.be/c_N7WgxEoI8?si=5wB_ee8_gvoFmXuT
>>738319786>don't know why, not to mention having to play the Tiger Tiger minigame to upgrade PoppiBecause it was fun.>And, yeah, the party members aren't as memorable as Shulk's partyNow that's a straight up lie.
>>738319043Being amused by a generic action movie line isn't any more embarrassing than finding stuff like "it's Reyn time!" or any Malos quote funny.
>>738313589Xenoblade 2 is the only one I've beaten, these games are a huge slog but I forced myself to finish this one since it was the only RPG on the Switch at the time. The ending was amazing though.
>>738313589>Only redeeming factor is the fanservice>Remove the fanservice
>>7383189233's story has it's downs, but 2's fucking story is one big down moment from beginning to end. 2fags need loud obnoxious in-your-face characters every second or else they fall asleep.
Twincest
>>738322035>Removed the fanservice XB3 has a full-on mixed gender bathhouse scene within the first hour.
the story and world were always more interesting than the china-tier waifuslop
>>738321790This is my big problem with 3 - the "final dungeon / endgame area(s)" just fall completely flat Origin is just lame red and purple hallways inside of an orb and the Z fight is overly drawn out and he isn't established well as something you actively want to destroy. Compare this to 1's ending (you fucking to into space to fight the creator) and 2's ending (the entire climb up the world tree into elysium and through to the orbital ring is incredible) and it really lays bare why 3 struggles.
>>738322056>2's fucking story is one big down moment from beginning to end. How is 3's not? It's a miserable experience the entire time
Why do 2fags hate 3 so much but still praise the first game? Thematically, 3 is far closer the 1 than 2 is. It feels like they only pretend to praise 1 to hide how shitty their tastes actually are
>>738322632I have never once praised the first game.
>>738322627bull fucking shit. 3 has compelling themes about the value of life and and interesting world we get to see people who only know war discover what else is out there. 2 starts off so utterly aimless, rex is annoying, and they ruin any dramatic moments at the end by just saying "lol jk everyone is fine and happy". Pyra/Mythra should have actually died. The ending would have been so much better for it.
>>738322827so you admit you're tastes are garbage and you only like games with overexaggerated characters and generic "i will protect everyone" themes?
2 > X >= 1 >>>>> 3After the story, characters, endgame progression, and combat (once you understand it) of 2, 3 was a major fucking letdown. 2 actually made me tear up at the end. Games never do that stuff to me.
>>738322964Yes, I love waffles.
>>7383226322fags hate 1 as well (and X), because it's the least "anime" entry but they can't get away with punching down on it because it's still really iconic and beloved.
>>738322987>2 actually made me tear up at the end. Games never do that stuff to me.Really? 2's ending totally felt flat for me. Maybe it's Rex's shitty VA, but I was wincing the entire time. The prison scene in 3 is the ONLY time a xenoblade game has gotten me emotional.
>>738323013>yes I have bad tastesI'm glad we agree that 2fags have the mental capacity of children then.
>>738322847>they ruin any dramatic moments at the end by just saying "lol jk everyone is fine and happy". And XC3 doesn't....? They literally added that pointless scene of Noah disappearing just so people wouldn't complain about a sad ending lol
>>738313749People are getting on your ass about it, but 2 will always be dragged down cause of the gacha and field skills. I love the game immensely but there’s just no way around it.
>>738319315>>738319193retards, obviously i dont think I will finish it in 30 hours. I just wanna play something lots. Honestly how hard is it to use your head of course a jrpg cant be finished in 30 hours
>>738323181I was able to adjust to the crap-factor of the VA; although, I think it improves quite a bit over the course of the game. It feels like the voice-acting was recorded mostly in order of events so by the end Rex's VA had kind of figured his character out and it was less grating than earlier in the game.
>>738323181>what do you like about X?>I liked this part>well, I hated that part, because X is wrong and stupid, and you're wrong and stupid for liking itnever change /v/
>>738322290>went from fully unaware of their shame to all too aware of it in an instant at the most hormonal ageXC3’s cast is easily the most likely to have engaged in full-party orgies like some wild, degenerate DnD session and you can’t convince me otherwise.
>>738323403You're kidding yourself if you don't think 3's ending is bittersweet, but that's besides the point because that doesn't absolve 2 anyway. Pretty much everyone agrees that 3 drops the ball in the last chapter, which is why I said 3 has it's low moments. 3 having a mediocre story at the end doesn't change the fact that 2's story is mediocre throughout.
>>738323604>if you don't think 3's ending is bittersweetwhat's bittersweet about it? They quite literally show that Noah and Mio are instantly reunited>3 having a mediocre story at the endIt's not just at the end, the entire story sucks. You also have to spend the entire game with a party full of 6 characters that no one gives a shit about
>>738323521Nigga that's just how people disagree on the internet. What am I not allowed to share my own experiences with the game?
>>738323061>people are still trying to claim XC1 wasn't anime in 2026The delusion is beyond the pale at this point.
I tire. I tire of Xenoblade threads being given over to one tiny clique of shitposters who hate the series, who like one game at the most, and who just samefag back and forth with disposable paint-by-numbers posts. Go ahead and post "meds" at me. You've been doing this for nine fucking years. Go ahead and post "you'll live" at me, because you're right. You're right, I have a life to go back to. The fuck do you have?
Remember when /v/ lost its absolute shit in frothing fury over the bunny girl Blade? Now that was fucking hilarious.
>>738323759I like all xeno games
>>738323759Then leave retard.
>>738323768I think that was mostly Resetera. Come to think of it, I think that's probably where a lot of the bad actors in these threads come from, too.It was still really funny though.
>>738323768I still stand by the idea that she should've been a human in a long dress rather than an uncanny rabbit
>>738323832Based. Have you played the Xenosaga series?
>and "anime tropes" As well they should. Theres enough shitty harem media already.
>>738323731>what's bittersweet about it? They quite literally show that Noah and Mio are instantly reunitedBecause we don't know how much they remember, or if anyone else reunites for that matter. >you also have to spend the entire game with a party full of 6 characters that no one gives a shit aboutthat's on you for only caring about shitty overexaggerated characters with cookie cutter personalities. Try acquiring some level of appreciation for characters that actually behave closer to how real people do.
>>738323735>Nigga that's just how people disagree on the internet.nah, just how you do iteverybody else just posts funny memes that make you butthurt
>>738323901I prefer the rabbit, helps her stand out from the other Blades and she's really cute and sexy.
>>738324005>Because we don't know how much they remember, Didn't the game tell you they do?>or if anyone else reunites for that matter.So? No one cares, especially not the writers.
>>738323932Unfortunately I haven't played saga, my autism isn't enough for that trilogy, and I heard it's very easy to get a softlock there.
>>738313589XB3 sold poorly cause fans of 1 felt burned by 2 and left while fans of 2 didnt bother cause it lacked the tiddies
>>738324012Genuinely what was so bad about my post? I just said "the ending didn't do it for me". I didn't even accuse the anon of having shitty tastes or anything remotely like that.
>>738323847Why did you faggots kill Xenogame General? You spammed on /v/ until the threads were autosaged to /vg/ then spammed the generals for upwards of 12 hours a day until everyone stopped making them. Every post was something for you to bitch about, no matter what it was about, and then the threads died because nobody wanted to deal with you. What the fuck is your damage?
>>738324190I'm not your boogeyman you fucking schizo
>>738324089>Didn't the game tell you they do?lmao no it fucking doesn't.>So? No one cares, especially not the writers.Yeah, you're just bullshitting at this point. You cannot tell me the writers weren't invested in the characters during the prison scene.
>>738314948>That cutting board>Fanservice
>>738324119There aren't any soft locks in Xenosaga as a series, you might be thinking of a late game boss in Xenogears which has one attack that causes a soft lock on PS2/PS3/older PlayStation emulators. If you can't get into Xenosaga 1 or 2 I really recommend just jumping into 3, it's practically required reading for everything going on in the current meta series. There's even an in-game wiki to get you up to speed about everything.
>>738324260Why lie? Own it.
>>738313589>developer makes a game worse than the last one>HOLY SHIT THIS HAS NEVER HAPPENED BEFORE THE WOKE ARE OUT TO GET ME AND RUIN MY GAMES, WHY ELSE WOULD THEY MAKE A GAME THAT'S DIFFERENT FROM THE LAST ONE (AS THEY ALREADY DID IN THE SERIES) *AND* HAVE IT SELL LESS? ITS THE CULTURE WAR!
>>738318114Xenoblade 1 took inspiration from mecha anime thats a given
>>738324312It does, Noah remembers a bunch of bullshit and so does Ashera >You cannot tell me the writers weren't invested in the characters during the prison scene.Invested in Noah and Mio, sure. They're shit characters but the writers definitely love them for whatever reason. You can't convince they're invested in the rest of the party.
>>738324424schizo
>>738324190This spamming faggot is the one who killed it, retard. Weird how I never see you cry about this spam.
>>738324578You do enough crying for everyone
>>738324702Tell that to >>738324190
>>738324521>It does, Noah remembers a bunch of bullshit and so does AsheraIt's been a while since I've played, but what the hell are you even talking about...? When the fuck is Ashera mentioned during the ending?>Invested in Noah and Mio, sure. They're shit characters but the writers definitely love them for whatever reason. nigga they're the main characters. The protagonists getting a bit more focus than the side characters is not a valid criticism, especially not in a game where the side characters get plenty of screen time and focus.
>>738324089X: Definitive answers this like a lot of 3 apologists were saying: The experiences of every living thing, be they human, animal, Blade, alien, etc, including those in Origin, is fed back to "the abyss at the heart of everything," where all consciousness has accumulated. Origin and Mimeosomes are an emulator of that abyss. Al calls it a Nexus, Xenosaga called it the UMN, XC3 called it the Iris Network - It's all the same idea. Everything a person has ever been, over however many incarnations they have, feeds back into a source that can be tapped later. We don't really need to know more than that.
>>738316993>It only sold because there was nothing elseStill coping about that? Xenoblade 2 got a spike in sales when Pyrah and Mithra got into Smash, years after the game was originally released. Dudes just wanted to buy the game with sexy girls drawn by Saitom, Smash got more people to look out for it, it is that simple.Xenoblade 3 sold less than 2 when the Switch user base had grown thrice the size since 2's release and boosted visibility the series had grown, it no longer had the unfiltered Saitom designs, they put a leash on him.
>>738324578here we fucking go again you're the same clique, a single throwaway line per thread is different than 100+ posts per thread and going out of your way to kill a general
>>738324831The third in a trilogy always has the weakest sales, THOUGH?
>>738324776>The protagonists getting a bit more focus than the side characters is Sure but when the protagonists literally joined the bad guys and committed genocide then it makes you start to question why they are the only ones supposedly worthy of getting a good ending. Especially after Noah gives that faggy little speech to N about how his friends are just sooooo important to him. Kinda falls flat when he just abandons them at the end. >the side characters get plenty of screen time and focus.lollmao even
>>738324831>Xenoblade 3 sold less than 2 when the Switch user base had grown thrice the size since 2's release and boosted visibility the series had grownnta but this isn't a valid point. certain series will always have a cap regardless of how big the install base is. Hell, often games that release early in a console sell better because people are more desperate for games. Look at what happened to mario and rabbids.
>>738324880>single throwaway line>he thinks the shitposts begin and end with that one single line Retard.
>>738323768I always thought that was weird. When even /v/ doesn't understand why you are mad, you have something wrong with you.
>>738323757That mainly applies to OG Wii purist XB1fags, whom, I think were the proto-E33fags. They're playing an anime ass game that wears it's influences on it's sleeves with big cinematic cross-slashes and shit but because it's not "generic" anime artstyle they delude themselves into thinking that their game is unique.
>>738324959>Especially after Noah gives that faggy little speech to N about how his friends are just sooooo important to himthat doesn't happen
>>738316993This, and it's the same for every Nintendo product, people only bought the games that sold well because there was absolutely nothing else on any of them and tendies were desperate.
>>738325190yes it does, go get your brain checked for Alzheimer's
>>738324959>completely dodges my question about the endingSo you were just flat out bullshitting?>Sure but when the protagonists literally joined the bad guys and committed genocide then it makes you start to question why they are the only ones supposedly worthy of getting a good ending. Are you really claiming N as a weak part of the story? Hell, he's the only villain in the game that's any good. Characters that are shown to be capable of doing wrong are far more believable and compelling then "aww i just wuv everyone sooo much!" You have the worldview of a literal child.>lol>lmao evenI can distinctly remember more scenes that focus on the supporting cast gets in 3 over 2. You are such a dishonest fucking faggot it hurts
>>738324126false dichotomy where one group doesn't actually didn't mind censorship, for reasons.
>>738318672>It sold faster than 2 in the same timeframeand never managed to match, much less outsell it, quite the strange cope you have here.The fact it strong initial sales, but it then it took a massive halt, is a clear sign the initial XB3 sales were entirely from the goodwill XB2 amassed, but once people actually played the game and noticed XB3 was far removed from XB2 interest winded down considerably.
I never really read much into the "too anime" criticisms before I played XC2 and 3 but after just recently finishing the main story of XC2 and playing some XC3 I could see some older autismos bringing this up. It's not the tiddies and occasional skits but the main story presentation.The story beats in 2 and 3 just felt too much like modern shounen anime and manga where your party gets constantly interrupted by cringy antagonists monologing in smarmy theatrical ways while your party members just twiddle their dumb and wait. It's a slog of inconsequential rising action, climax and falling action over and over like you'd see in serialized manga that fights against getting flushed down.
>>738325269>Are you really claiming N as a weak part of the story?The whole story and all the characters are shit, including N>he's the only villain in the game that's any good. The villains are all shit, including N >Characters that are shown to be capable of doing wrong are far more believable and compelling tSure, but that has nothing to do with whether or not a character deserves a happy ending, especially so when they get a happy ending while other characters who never joined the bad guys get nothing. >can distinctly remember more scenes that focus on the supporting cast gets in 3 over 2.Well I can remember more in 2 than 3. What now faggot?
>>738320614I looked it up and it was Sony that kicked sbi out, because they have their own faggotry ESG in house bullshit now.
>>738313749>made even worse by a blade progression system requiring you to heavily backtrack, stupid blade field skills.This is what makes it so good unironically
>>738323431there is a massive list of good jrpgs out there. Just take your pick
>>738325491Yeh im torn between ff tactics, fire emblem awakening, neptunia or xenoblade.
>>738318323They're good. The pantyhose adds contrast to the rest of Mythra's outfit, which felt a bit bland with the white on pale skin
>>738325334You are right that XB2 is much more character oriented and XC1 was more world oriented. some people respond positive to SB2s emphasis. it is what it is.
>>738325401>its shit its all shit waa waa waanot a fucking argument. Being fussy about "who deserves a happy ending" is such a dumbass point to hyperfixate on. I don't care "who deserves it", I want a story with compelling characters with human-like behaviors, not whatever the fuck Rex is. >Well I can remember more in 2 than 3. What now faggot?Until you can prove to me that 3 doesnt focus on it's side characters I will continue to call you a gaslighting bullshitter.
>>738324126>>738324831XB3 didn't sell poorly in any capacity. That's the thing with this whole narrative, it makes it seem like XB3 bombed on release like XBXDE and that XB2's legs isn't simply an anomaly for the series due to the constant discourse and JP late adopter audience
>>738319894>>738314626>in his headAh the good old "it never happened" tactic.Just one click after typing "Xenoblade 2 sexualized females" on Google will immediately bring much of the discussion surrounding the game back then.https://youtu.be/pRNkWXwyjdkOne of the most infamous and viewed Xenoblade 2 videos by the way, the shitstorm in the comments in favor and against the points made in the video are a portrait of what it was.This faggot alone was likely a contributor to Nintendo forcing Saitom to take it easy on the designs for XB3
>>738325626>want a story with compelling charactersWhich 3 is not, kek>Until you can prove to me that 3 doesnt focus on it's side charactersCan you actually describe any of them beyond surface level tropes like "Lanz and Sena like the gym" or "Taion is a nerd" etc
>>738325334>The story beats in 2 and 3 just felt too much like modern shounen anime and manga where your party gets constantly interrupted by cringy antagonists monologing in smarmy theatrical ways while your party members just twiddle their dumb and wait. It's a slog of inconsequential rising action, climax and falling action over and over like you'd see in serialized manga that fights against getting flushed down.Gears, Saga, Blade 1 and X are all essentially like that.
Every single cutscene in this game is the exact sameEnemies have the upper hand - MC gets a powerup - ReversalEvery single goddamn encounter.How is it even possible a game this poorly written was allowed to bear the Xeno moniker?
>>738313589>I really, really, really love Underage Panty Quest II, but could we please tone down the underage panties? I'm starting to feel like a creep playing this.What causes normalfags to do this?
>>738313589it's amazing that despite all the market research these companies do, they are apparently still incapable of telling who actually plays their games and who is just trying to poison the well
>>738325735>Saitom to take it easy on the designs for XB3It's underrated how bad this was. I suspect the story was also toned down too, because the general of the themes existing in the game that don't appear to be restrained. Mute the games, get a muted response from fans.
>>738316843>but we put white people in the trailer so now you need to claim it as your thing!kek
>>738326140The 'fans' in question being chinese gacha coomer with enough brainmatter to fill a thimble.
>>738326323What am I supposed to be angry about?
>>738326062That's actually a legit good point and made me think. Why do market research companies and departments so consistently, and perpetually for decades this point, fail to identify and profile the "gamer"?We're pretty much forced to assume a massive jewish conspiracy just for anything to make any sense anymore.
I think pretending to like 2 should be considered trolling.
>>738325930>Which 3 is notthe characters are a sure of a hell lot more humanlike than the characters in 2. You were literally JUST pissing yourself over the dubious morality of Noah/N.>Can you actually describe any of them beyond surface level tropes like "Lanz and Sena like the gym" or "Taion is a nerd" etcJesus, imagine calling the characters of 3 onenote and then turning around to praise the cookie cutter characters of 2. Actual lunacy. Lanz is dumb but has a strong will and we see him open up more as he is exposed to things of the world. Taion struggles with the guilt of his past, making him resort to being cold an calculated. Sena has low self confidence so she forces herself to be peppy and upbeat to keep up appearances. I'm not saying these are the best written characters in all of fiction, but the characters in 3 absolutely get attention and you are nothing but a flaming faggot who can't argue in good faith.
>>738326514Shonen plot
>>738326323those hips caught my eyes more than the boobs
>>738326754There's a guy who HATES 3 with all his heart and soul and probably just pretends to like 2 to get under the skin of people who like 3. I wouldn't take him seriously.
>>738326754>dubious morality of Noah/N.Committing genocide for hundreds/thousands of years is not "morally dubious" it's just evil. >the characters in 3 absolutely get attention Where?
>>738326537this but 3.
>>738326062I think the people who boil Xeno down to just being a T&A series and go on about the Jewish and leftist conspiracy to kill the white man's erection is the party poisoning the well.
>>738326814And?
>>738326828
>>738326894>Committing genocide for hundreds/thousands of years is not "morally dubious" it's just evil.Yeah, and the game absolutely treats N as a villain. What the fuck is actually your problem here.>Where?nigger just completely ignores everything I said. The characters are all featured during "downtime" moments of the main quest, and each character gets an entire story heavy sidequest focused on them. Good lord you might just be the most dishonest person on /v/
>>738327018
>>7383269513's plot involves an objectively evil entity forcing 1 and 2 fags to fight for eternity for his own pleasure. The sides are controlled with propaganda and their sexuality is destroyed to keep them mindless soldiers who know nothing. There is a race of merchants who know what's happening but say nothing because they profit.Who do you think is raising a hate campaign against 3? I think it's obvious.
>>738325401Also, I'm not letting you get away with what you said about the characters remembering everything at the end. You're entire argument about 3's ending being too positive hinges on this. What the fuck were you actually talking about?
>>738326323Turns out the core crystal on Pyra's chest was more important to the story in 2 than the Monado was in 1. Funny that.
>>738327219>the game absolutely treats N as a villain.Until the end of the game where Noah tells him he would've made the same choices that N made, and their souls fuse together, and then at the end they are reborn and get to go be with Mio forever, while Lanz and Eunie have to grow up with that fat lose Joran, lmao. Yes, very fitting "punishment" for this villain. >all featured during "downtime" moments of the main questSo are the characters in 2? What's your point? >each character gets an entire story heavy sidequest focused on themSena's sidequest is more focused on Shania and Ghondor than Sena, lmao
>>738324943Devil May Cry 3 had lukewarm initial sales on the PS2 due how much DMC2 damaged the brand, then it outsold 1 and 2 in it's late lifecycle, plus the SE release, after people got notice DMC3 not only revitalized the brand but it catapulted to be considered one of the best games ever made.So no, the third game in a trilogy isn't prone to have the weakest sales if it can prove to the masses it is something far superior than anything that came prior.
>>738327321That's a point that 3's ending defenders frequently use, I don't care if they remember or not
>>738327540Do you have any self-reflection whatsoever? Are you capable of listening to how you sound?
>>738327390>Until the end of the game where Noah tells him he would've made the same choices that N made, and their souls fuse together, and then at the end they are reborn and get to go be with Mio foreverI hate faggots like you who have no room for forgiveness, even for the villains. Regardless, Noah is clearly still the "mind" in control. His personality does not change when he absorbs N.>So are the characters in 2? What's your point?Nigger YOU'RE the one claiming 3 doesn't focus on its side characters. I NEVER said 2 doesn't either, just that their personalities are far more cookie cutter in 2.>Sena's sidequest is more focused on Shania and Ghondor than Sena, lmaoYou're bringing up one "example" of sidequest that doesn't ENTIRELY focus on the side character. Actual piss poor argument.
>>738327540lmao so you were just making shit up and being dishonest.
>>738327390I just realized you're repeating what people who played 3 say about the game but you have zero context for that information.You can't just skim a wiki and a thread and think your opinion matters. If you didn't play the game, say so.
>>738327694>hate faggots like you who have no room for forgiveness, even for the villainsWould you forgive Amalthus? N killed way more people than he did.
>>738327868I did play it unfortunately, can't get that wasted time back.
>>738326323>Life as a teen>Life as a young adult
>>738318323Really stupid. I'm no fan of mythra but those pantyhose did her dirty. Seriously what is twith he worlds attacking bare leg fans
>>738327997If Amalthus had a remotely compelling morality behind his actions and showed some level of remorse over the course of the game then yeah, I'd say there's room for SOME level of forgiveness. Unfortunately Amalthus isn't remotely a compelling villain (neither is Z), so I dont give 2 shits about him regardless. Also you're doing the faggot thing where you ignore literally everything else in my post because you know you dont have jack shit
>>738327694>I hate faggots like you who have no room for forgivenessThis, you should forgive everyone for everything and punishing them is barbaric and inhuman.
>>738318345X is the only game where I get back at the one shotting meme monkey.
>>738328065then why did you have to lie about the ending? Why should I believe any of your statements about 3 if you've been caught making shit up/regurgitating posts you didnt understand?
>>738314471I AM a straight white man you pathetic engagement farming jeet.The female character designs are great, and the setting is inspired. None of that excuses the horrific character writing and god awful gotcha blade system.
I couldn't finish 3 but enjoyed all the other games until the very end. I'm not sure if it was the colony freeing loop getting stale or what, but it dragged hard. Also I wasn't a huge fan of Nia from 2 and the game seemed to really focus on her, which made me hopeful the others would show up. I think learning they turned Pyra or Rex into a sword metal(?) made me quit but its been a while since so I might have remembered wrong.
>>738328286>Amalthus had a remotely compelling morality behind his actions "I miss muh gf" is quite literally the least compelling and most unoriginal motivation imaginable
Does Nintendo actually care about Xenoblade music? The series is one of the only first parties that have Smash representation but no music in Nintendo Music; alongside EarthBound, Punch-Out, Arms (but it’s just one game) and Bayonetta, and Nintendo basically did fuck all to promote the soundtrack releases and the trinity box or even tell people they existed… and being one of the first-part franchises to be left out of the music app to this day stings (and not to mention how no Nintendo stores carry merch for the series either)
>>738328289>This, you should forgive everyone for everything and punishing them is barbaric and inhuman.I never claimed that, faggot. At the end of the day he still gets absorbed into the "superior" Noah. N does not get exists as he is freely. Hell, he essentially ceases to exist.
>>738327264That checks out to me. Elon is in bed with the Jews after all
>>738328403>lie about the endingWhere, retard?
XC1 is the weakest entry. It has the most repetitive gameplay, the characters are quite flat aside fom Melia and early Shulk, the story falls off a cliff after Mechonis, and there is a lot of padding with areas that are much larger than they need to be where there is literally nothing to do but walking. By the time I was in Bionis´ heart I was already begging the game to just end already. The things I will give it credit for are great music and being the base for the series.XCX feels like a natural evolution. The gameplay is more dynamic, the world more purposeful, character are hit or miss but I feel the main cast has more substance. Music is good aside from one or two songs. Story is whatever but it fullfills its purpose. The one thing that bothers me is that not playing online is very crippling as regular material farming is a nightmare.XC2 is a major shift in gameplay, but still feels like a step from XC1, the Blades system offers much more variety of combat, the world is smaller but more densely packed, the story only goes up and up (with some minor hiccups along the way), and the main cast is more memorable, music is incredible, the environments are the most visually stunning ones in the series aside from Sylvalum in X. Its bigger flaws are the janky animations and bad undocked performance (because MS was working on BOTW at the same time) and the gacha.XC3´s combat builds up from XC2´s. Being able to swap which character you control mid battle makes it feel so much better, the music is great, the animations are great, the side content is great, the main party is best written in the entire series, if not in the entire genre. The main narrative is perhaps the weakest among the numbered entries because its constrained by the setting, but story is the thing I care the least for in games.Since my main thing is gameplay, I think my best as the best one is either XCX or XC3.
>>738328573You said that Noah remembers everything and "Ashera does too" which doesnt make any fucking sense. You literally just admitted you were regurgitating what others said.
>>738328543You got angry that someone didn't forgive him for the evil he did.
>>738313749SpbpXb2 cope is pathetic.The field skills alone drag down the entire game. It also started the awful trend of making classes irrelevant in late game because it all boils down to insane DPS.
>>738328518>"I miss muh gf" is quite literally the least compelling and most unoriginal motivation imaginablejesus fuck you cant help yourself but flip flop into a different argument with every post. N lived over and over and every time had to watch his love die. N made the (wrong) choice because he was sick of the cycle and he was desperate to break free. Jesus fuck you really didnt play the game, did you? Remind me why Amalthus is evil? because I cant be assed to remember.
>>738328605Agreed but I love xc1 and played it the most times, even if it's far more simple than the rest.
>>738313781XC3 is bland as fuck and completely insipid precisely because everything potentially spicy in any way in the series was excised. You can screech and cry and shit yourself over how """oversexualized""" the girls in XC2 are but I'm quite sure all the people who worked on character design for that game enjoyed their job, it shows. XC3 meanwhile has all the energy of a product designed by a board of geriatrics looking at statistics about how to make their product inoffensive, there is no flavor or vibrancy in the game at all. You cannot convince me that XC3 was made with passion and creative freedom. Nobody's free pursuit of passion results in something so bland and phoned in.You can see the result too, it's coming off the tail of the most successful game in the series but sales are down. This means that the screechers they tried to please didn't buy it and many of the previous fans from the series' peak also chose not to return.>>738318672So it sold on pre-release hype built up by the previous games' reputations before people actually got their hands on it and then stopped buying.
>>738328605>the main party is best written in the entire series, if not in the entire genreI genuinely don't understand this. Maybe because I never made it to the end, but they were very flat and the story beats on their personal side quests were interchangeable. On one of Tions quests where he was doubting himself I remember thinking, "Didn't we just do this with Noh?" They just seemed boiler plate to me. Also music and environments were the worst outside of X imo
>>738328856>N lived over and over and every time had to watch his love die.Just like every other person in Aionios, woah....None of them turned evil though, only N didYet he's the only one who gets a good ending for some reason (in a game that supposedly is invested in its side characters lmao)
>>738327264Nah, it’s just bland, despite how grandiose it wants to be.
>>738328732No, I'm annoyed that someone is pissing themselves over N "getting a good ending" (which is only half true, he essentially just sacrifices himself) and saying it ruins N's entire plotline as a result. My point on forgiveness was that its retarded to be mad at a narrative that chooses to go with a redemption story.
>>738328605>the main party is best written in the entire series, if not in the entire genre.Oh give me a break. Don't pretend like you actually care about any of them besides Noah and Mio.
>>738314626People on this very board, see: Japanese "humor" threads
>>738328946>XC3 meanwhile has all the energy of a product designed by a board of geriatrics looking at statistics about how to make their product inoffensive, there is no flavor or vibrancy in the game at all. You cannot convince me that XC3 was made with passion and creative freedom. Nobody's free pursuit of passion results in something so bland and phoned in.Agreed and well said.
>>738328946>>738313781When will we all finally agree that 2 and 3 both sucked? God I hope the series goes back to XB1 / XENOSAGA quality...
>>738329079I legit care more about Taion and Eunie than about Noah and Mio.
>>738329014>Just like every other person in Aionios, woah....You did not play the game. N was a Noah that escaped the cycle and was tempted by Z when he showed him every past failure. It was an entirely unique circumstance that no one else encounters.
Why is gameplay never a factor in Xenoblade discourse beyond people saying that the entire gameplay system should be thrown out and replaced with real time combat and dodges and parrying and that they don’t understand auto attacks?
>>738313781Shit up you pathetic fucking prude.I hate XB2, but the hot designs are the one point in its favor. Would love to see the slut sisters pop up like KOS-MOS as cameos moving forward. I just don't want to hear them talking.
>>738329265>N was a Noah that escaped the cycle Yes, there were other people in the city that also escaped the cycle and fought against Moebius, did YOU play the game? We see this in both flashbacks and FR >>738329246I highly doubt that
>>738329372Because arguing about the gameplay across the games is just arguing which variety of shit stinks slightly less.
>>738324359Wanna know how I know your skin tone?
>>738329513>Yes, there were other people in the city that also escaped the cycle and fought against Moebius, did YOU play the game? We see this in both flashbacks and FRYeah, but none of those people were shown every past failure like N was. N having "potential to make bad choices and therefor he was targeted by the villain" doesn't suddenly making him a non-compelling villain.You never responded to >>738328671 by the way. Why should I believe anything you say about 3 when you're willing to make shit up?
>>738328793Why did he do it bros?
To add to my previos post (>>738328605), there is actually another thing I don´t like about XC2: The fact the gameplay takes too long to fully open up. I guess XCX is the same in that regard but the story chapters in that game are so short you can speedrun them easly to unlock the mechanics you want.
>>738329873>there is actually another thing I don´t like about XC2: The fact the gameplay takes too long to fully open up.Fully agree. XC2 is the epitome of "it gets good 20 hours" and that's a serious fault on the game's part.
>>738330456Best character in 3 by far
>>738313781I love how this kike phrase "porn addiction" has become the rallying cry of /v/irgins for their war against straight men.
I hope you anons don't let the 2fag live this one down. He straight up admitted that the shit he says about 3 is just him regurgitating other anons' posts without context. He claimed that the ending of 3 "explicitly states Noah remembers everything (and Ashera too, despite her not being in the ending at all)", because he misunderstood the posts where people discussed the fact that some clones have faint recollections of their past lives.
>>738330620>be an immortal hedonist asshole for so fucking long that you forget why you wanted to be an immortal hedonist asshole in the first place>decide to fuck off from the forever war with your underlings, treat them like family, larp as pirates>Z lets you because lol amusementgoofy fucking game
Sex sells niggas when I point out the existence of how dogshit Senran Kaguya does on a consistent basis.My guess is that to a degree that sex sells does have a sort of pull but there actually needs to be a super ego component and not just something that exists to titillate. Shift up is very good at utilizing culture war schlock to get people to pay for their garbage. Xenoblades is a nintendo property, just banking on appealing to the base impulses gamers just doesn't really cut it. Which is why the Lords of the Fallen devs are really hammering home on the "Own the woke" part of their coomerism.
>favorite chapter>favorite character>favorite "class/wepaon" >favorite blade>favorite bond mission>favorite strategy>what do you want from a DE/RemasterGo
>>738313589As someone who basically played the series backwards (I had dropped 1 and 2 after a few chapters) so 3 > 2 > X > 1DE, I have no idea why people think 1 is in any way good. It was super paint by numbers and the twists were obvious as someone who watched shonen anime in the 00s. X was at least notable in how boring it is despite an interesting premise and some good characters. And I say that as someone obsessed with Mecha.2>3>X>1
>>738331806Incredibly gay and retarded post
>>738313589Xenoblade 3 won and coomers lost
>>738331392My only legit>headcanonis that Teach can't be fucking nine, Oleg was specifically talked about as a historic figure taught in Agnus classes, there's no way you're gonna make me believe he was some fucking second or third year running around wrecking up colonies
>>738331995You misclicked and meant to link >>738331995
>>738329724Maybe he might be compelling if his relationship with Mio was even remotely interesting and not the most generic shit imaginable
>>738331806>complains about shounen shit>likes the most shounen shit gamex2 fans everyone
>>7383318017probably RexSword whipProbably Perun does Zeke countProbably the Praxis/Theory chainEither control Morag and become unkillable or control Tora and spam Driver Combos nonstop and farm all the thingsBeyond unlikely but fix the huge disconnect between the base game and Torna
>>7383135893 is the worst not only because it was made for gays and women but because they paired the only big tits party member with a brownoid indian. what a joke of a game.
>>738332252No you misunderstand me. I didn't mind the Shonen in 2 as it was honest about it and not leaning on plot twists for the story beats.1 in comparison seemed to lean heavily on the obvious plot twists. My expectations for this may have been influenced by people talking them up in passing. I did not actually read any spoilers ahead of time, just people hyping up twists.
>>738332237You mean Rex and his shitty harem full of every trope in the book? I still can't understand how you can say 3 is generic and turn a blind eye to 2. Oh wait, that's right, you admitted that you make up shit about 3 based on contextless post on /v/. Right.
Should I try out any Xenoblade game at some point? Mind you that I don't really fuck with action RPGs like that and the voice acting seems really tryhard.
>>738332552So you're admitting Noah is as generic as Rex?
>>738320058I can accept this type of post if you also post the number of reviews so that the average thing becomes more clear.
>>738332564Every game past 2 and the later DEs have a voice language option. It's not exactly an ARPG, more like MMO combat. Fuck people's opinions, try one and see for yourself
>>738332637No? huh? Goddamn you are grasping at straws now. I'm implying that 2 is worse than 3 in that regard you dumb faggot. Getting exposed as a fraud has really made you desperate.
>>738332731Any way to get them for cheap?
>>738332794Emulate or get a v1 Switch and pirate. Otherwise lol
so how does the switch games emulate in 2026? perfectly playable?
>>738332771>implying that 2 is worse than 3 in that regard Well it's definitely not.
>>738332854Why should I trust anything you have to say about 3 when you were caught making up plot points that don't exist?
>>7383328472 supposedly still has a memory leak issue I think so save often, otherwise with some basic config/mods you can get it looking really fucking nice, also it supports the proper haptic rumble if you use a Pro controller
>>738332854lamo Rex is one of the most cookie cutter shonen protags in all of gaming. Even if you like the character you can't deny he is as generic as it gets
>>738332952>you were caught making up plot points that don't exist?Where?
>>738333091Everyone found Rex lame as hell back in the day.
>>738333091>one of the most cookie cutter shonen protags in all of gaming.So is Noah.
>>738333034To be fair, I played the whole game completely in switch modded and the "save often" can't be emphatized enough. I had to learn it the hard way. I knew about the internal configs you could tweak so I was more concerned about how the emulators were handling the open world and such considering that apparently those are the game with "most issues" regarding emulation afaik
>>738331801>Chapter7>CharacterMythra>Class/ WeaponRex Lance >BladePraxis>Bond MissionI think the Praxis and Theory one>StrategyFusion Combos make me feel cool>wishlistMultiple save files Smoother UI that doesn't lagSaveable Blade loadoutsField checks scanning all your blades rather than equipped onesAlso something something graphics
I didn't quite have the config right yet on this screenshot but there's a lot of detail you never see running it on stock hardware like T-Elos's lingerie under her bodysuit
>>738333215That screenshot is on ryubing, it stutters a little while it generates shaders, otherwise all of them work fine, X has been emulated for years through Cemu
>>738333102Here: >>738324089 and here: >>738324521. Then you admitted you were regurgitating information without context here: >>738327540You said the characters remember everything at the end when the game never says they do. This is the second time you've tried to gaslight everyone and say you never made these claims.
>>738325334It's not that it's too anime, the whole Xeno series is anime. It's too shonen harem anime. It's a specific kind of anime. It's a genre pivot to something more childish and tropey than what's come before. Yeah we had moments like Chu-Chu, the G-Elements and all that but it was always carefully measured out. 2 was just constantly childish. People who can't articulate a change in genre recognize childish anime as what anime is stereotypically. I'm not even saying that's a bad thing, Takahashi himself said that's what he wanted to do with 2, but it's what people mean. It leaned more on stock characters, stock gags, and the like.
>>738333145Not really, no. Shonen protags are usually "upbeat idiot that loves his friends" and "edglord who pretends to not love his friends but actually does". Noah doesn't fit into either of these categories and Rex does.
>>738333440>You said the characters remember everything at the end when the game never says they do.Why else would Noah leave if he didn't remember anything?
>>738333419I'm more of a fan of the Switch aesthetics regarding X, so if it emulates fine then I'll transfer all my saves to the PC.
>>738333560So we're finally admitting that Noah doesn't care about his "friends" and only cares about Mio?
Forget 3.Future Redeemed is the best Xenoblade has ever been. Literally zero complaints.
Xenosaga need come back so you fuckers finally get something else to legit bitch at.
>>738333567We don't know. The ending leaves it open internally. Maybe he knew. Maybe he didn't and was just curious. Maybe it tugged on a subconscious memory he doesn't know he has. The purpose was not to say "he remembers everything" it was to say "they crossed paths again, even if they don't remember any of it". Japan loves their bittersweet "everyone forgets everything but the protagonists still end up together" tropes. Either way, the shit you said about Ashera was especially egregious. You can't act like you weren't making shit it especially after you admitted to it.
>>738333598>moving the goalposts THIS blatantly.oh fuck off. You are incapable of arguing in good faith
>>738333859>moving the goalpostsYou're the one who said he said he's not a protagonist who loves his friends lmao.
>>738334025Not falling for your red herring. YOU said Noah was more generic than Rex, and after being proven wrong you completely tried to dodge it by strawmanning and claiming I said something I never said. Honest to god, do you even believe the garbage you post?
>>738334172Don't bother with this dude, man. He does this shit in every thread then bitches that nobody wants to talk about Xenoblade when he means nobody wants to jerk off to Xenoblade 2.
>>738334172>YOU said Noah was more generic than Rex,and he is >War is.... le bad.... Also muh cat gf boohoo....
>>738334329nigga I spelled out what generic shonen protag trope Rex follows. What generic shonen trope does Noah follow?
>>738334540The "hates fighting because he's supposedly a good dude but still fights everyone he comes across" trope
>>738334714Noah hates death but he 100% understands that it's necessary and is completely willing to do it (to a fault). name 5 shonen anime with a protagonist like this.
Bring back huge tits
>>738313781And neither does it prove the opposite corrolary, or your bad faith supposition.
>>738313749XC2 is the best in the biz. XC3 is forgettable and bland, like the Torna DLC was. X is awesome but just isn't a Xenoblade Chronicles experience, and Xenoblade Chronicles 1 is great but outdated and overlong and the characters are a bit boring at times.
>>738331801>favorite chapterXenoblade 1>favorite characterDUNBAN>favorite "class/wepaon"Lone exile fron xb3>favorite bladeLike from 2? I didn't find any very remarkable.>favorite bond missionAshera making Eunie lose her mind.>favorite strategyAgility tanking.>what do you want from a DE/RemasterEh.
>>738333607Agreed. I legitimately loved FR.
>>738334329>>War is.... le bad....That is quite literally the whole plot of 2.
>>738336131No way, the whole plot of 2 was give glory to god for his bountiful creations
>>738332406stay seething
>>738335059Bring back femanons with huge tits too
>>738336693There will never be women in these threads no matter how hard you beg
>>738335820>praising 2 but shitting on tornagoddamn 2fags deserve all the hate they get
>>738336131Is that what you took from it? Because I saw XC2 is not letting yourself be bound to the past and finding hope for the future even if that hope isn't clear. The whole game is defined by shitty pasts. Pyra and Mythra being stricken with guilt about Torna. Nia getting over her hatred for humans and herself. Mor Ardain being a nation of warmongerers trying to now be peacekeepers. Tantal being a nation of liars. Literally everything about Indol. The entire organization that is Torna is populated by hybrids that are asshurt about their sad backstories and have decided to make it the entire planet's problem. Hell the planet itself is built atop the corpse of the previous world. Which is what makes Rex special. Because even though he has the same ingredients as everyone else, he makes the decision to be optimistic. Dead parents? He's fine, after all he was surrounded by his found family. Fonsett is dirt poor, well he makes money doing what he loves. The Titans are disappearing, well he truly believes he can find Elysium and solve the problem. His growth isn't about changing who he is but rather giving him the wisdom and strength to support his completely correct worldview. And that's why everyone else is bettered by being around him. You don't have to be a piece of shit just because you had a shitty history.
>>738337127>Optimistic hero helps everyone get past their tragic backstories with his overwhelming positivityOh so you mean exactly like Luffy?
>>738337409>Optimistic hero helps everyone get past their tragic backstories with his overwhelming positivitySounds like Noah lmao
>>738337409Never seen One Piece but sure? Also>a trope stops being good if another character did itDamn. I guess Simba is a shitty character because Hamlet exists
>>738337531You said "it's what made him special". I can't fathom how anyone who's watched even a moderate amount of shonen can claim Rex is sepcial
>>738337529>Sounds like Noah lmaoHuh? Noah is not a particularly positive person. Genuinely what are you talking about? Making up shit about 3 again? You just cant help yourself can you?
>>738337529Eh Noah is different. I'm not really a fan of Noah but where Rex will just jump in without thinking, Noah overthinks everything. Which for his game is fine. Him overthinking is what made him suspect that the war was manufactured. And he was always considered a for off seeing troops with no respect to which side they were on. So it was easy for him to accept the Agnians when the time came to go on their adventure. But I still find him to be an extremely boring Shulk
>>738337602Obviously special within the context of his own game and why he gets to be the protag instead of Chairman Bana
>>738337791>ObviouslyYou butted in during a discussion about which protagonist is more of a generic Shonen protagonist, so it really did sound like you were trying to claim the Rex was unique because of those qualities.
>>738337667>Noah is not a particularly positive personHe's not, but the entire party and all of the heroes act like he's the nicest and coolest person ever for some reason
>>738338263>moving the goalposts again immediately after claiming Noah is optimistic and being blatantly wrong>makes up other shit that isn't even trueYou haven't played 3 and it's become more and more apparent.
>>738338373How am I wrong? Alexandria, Fiona, Juniper, Monica, Valdi they all just start sucking his dick for no reason.
>>738338561Post 1 actual example of this happening specifically with Noah and not just them generally getting along with the party.
>>738338734Alexandria's ascension quest
>>738338561It's not really deep anon. Alexandria develops a crush because she's a child playing at being an adult, Fiona and Juniper gain self confidence/respect due to the team, Valdi is retarded and Monica's going to develop a soft-spot for anyone her dad put faith in, just so happens to be her distant ancestor so it probably helped
>>738339005>Monica's going to develop a soft-spot for anyone her dad put faith inAnd yet it's only Noah and Mio she acts that way towards, not the entire teamKinda reminds me of the writers kek
>>738339073you're being stupid. Of course she likes the party as a whole, Noah and Mio are just the majority PoV characters
>>738338843Huh? specifically what part? Alexandria being a bit bashful about having to thank Noah after he risked his life for her (something lanz chews him out for)? Where is this "acts like he's the coolest person ever for no reason" you speak of?
>>738339215Proof?
>>738313589Serious question: Do Xeno2toddlers actually unironically believe anyone isnt aware that they are tourists? Their favorite game is so fundamentally different tonally than any of the others in the blade series, not to mention gears and saga, that its obvious to everyone who isnt a tourist that it sticks out like a sore thumb.That isn't to say that the game is all bad, that it doesnt have merits, that it isnt enjoyable. But it clearly is appealing to a completely different kind of audience than the rest of the series, which is why there is such a huge divide among the fanbase in the first place. Just admit you are a secondary who likes the tropey shonen self insert harem vibe. Its ok.
>>738339250Nigger you maid the claim. Find me a timestamp in a video where these characters hyperfixate on praising Noah specifically for unwarranted reasons. If it's so prevalent it shouldn't be hard to find, right?
>>738320058uh oh 2sissies...
Amazing how every time you push him for specifics there's just crickets
You may not like it, but Xenoblade 2 is the true spiritual successor of Grandia 1.
>>738325735saitom is a shit artist and I'm glad his designs were slightly better in 3 than they were in 2. I hope to god we get a new artist for the next game.
>>738339476When does Monica even talk to the other characters? I can remember one conversation with Eunie and that's it
>>738315408>30 hours
>>738340880I specifically asking for examples where character praise Noah specifically for no good reason. Why can't you find any examples?
>>738313589>>people complain about "fanservice" and "anime tropes"I wonder how many people who complain about this stuff have actually played the game they're complaining about
they compromised their vision and they should be left with nothing
>>738340764I've become rather fond of him even if he needs an eye wrangler
>>738341207Xenoblade specifically is relevant because 2 is notably different from 1 and X. There were definitely xenoblade fans that complained about it at least on some level.
so i finished all these games with the last 7 months since i was in the hospital and got nothing to domy ranking would go like this1/Xenoblade X 2/Xenoblade 33/Xenoblade 24/Xenobalde 1X has the greatest open world i've ever played ngl
>>738329079lanz is my favourite character in the game. I love the bro characters with baggage. He's like an evolution of reyn.
>>738341275>they compromised their vision and they should be left with nothingFor 3? How so? 3's setting is focused on a war with a bunch of soldiers in uniforms. It's not like 2 where there are "magical blade characters" as a main story element so the extravagant designs made sense. 3 is a lot more like 1 in many ways so I don't see how you can just assume the vision was always for games like 2.
>>738341505their vision of a nigger free world was compromised, do i need to elaborate ?
>>738340764>I'm glad his designs were slightly better in 3 than they were in 2.How is it possible to have a taste this shit? Thankfully your cancerous opinion is an outlier since XB3's cast was completely forgotten and barely had any merchandise made out of them.
>>738341701Ok, so you're just retarded
I have goonerblade 2 fatigue
>>738341801that's a tanned asian from SEA
>>738341749anon 3's the game that's actually gotten figmas when it should be a no-brainer to flood the market with blades, you don't have to lie
>>738341853I can buy into the "tanned" excuse sometimes, but some characters are clearly just black
>>738341853Don't mind me, just a regular tanned dude walking through
>>738341890>you don't have to lieWhat lie? Xenoblade 3 barely had any figures made, especially compared to 2.
this thread needs more thotty Rex
>>738341979Pacific islander.
>>738342360>pacific islanderHuh? How so?
>>738342360If we're going to play this game of "dark skinned characters who don't have black features aren't black" then Taion doesn't count either because he looks like a typical white nerd. He looks no more like a nigger than perun or vandham
>>738342586They're big lads over in Tonga.
>>738313589The worst part is that Xenoblade 2 already had all the anime butchered out of the localization.
>>738313589Xenoblade is shit.
>>738342998>only counts as black for interracial racemixing shitposting
>>738341343>X has the greatest open world i've ever played nglgoated opinion
>>738339439I like XenogearsI like Xenosaga (except 2, fuck 2)I like Xenoblade 2I like Xenoblade XXenoblade 1 is a fucking snoozefest
>>738313589>>previous game is still the most relevant entry in the seriesno? XBC1 is still the most relevant
>>738343869a literal blade (attractive female don't count as niggers weither you like it or not)and a side character that has maybe 15 minutes of screen timevs a mc you are forced to look at for the whole gamesomehow these are the same to yousomeone forced them to do it and they yieldedboycott forever for me
>>738313589>undertoneRetard didn't play Xenoblade 3. Kill yourself.Best selling game in the franchise is still 1.
>>738344158>not black>vs>not black>these are the same to you?Yes, RETARD.>b-but the main characters-AREN'T ANY MORE NIGGERS THAN SHARLA OR REYN WERE YOU ABSOLUTE FAGGOT.
>>738343949you arent fooling anyone anon.
I like that we're all a bunch of pranksters on this board :) saying things like XB2 has good characters, gameplay or story is the kind of funny joke you only get on a board full of jovial jokers :)
>>738344158You said "a world without niggers was the vision for the series" and that's clearly not fucking true. Stop moving the goalposts.
>>738339439what does nineball have to do with this
>>738313749SPBPthe only reason ironic weebs fellate 2 so much is because it's the first one they played
>>738344547Armored Core is a favorite franchise of people who look down on any form of engagement that's too "emotional". I don't know what it is, maybe the combination of mechs and a lack of human-focused scenes, but a noteworthy amount of people who play it get this brainrot where they start proclaiming its superiority over random stuff that isn't going for the same tone at all.ACfag got his name for a reason, after all.
>>738344547I picked a mech from my mecha folder, i should have picked a skell (Doll), my bad
For a character whose more covered up than the rest of xb3 and 2's female characters. Elma is still hotter than all of their roster combined. I just wish ghost factory functioned like it did in x2 but no the catguy had to have that gimmick.
>>738318345TRUTHNUKE
>>738323901I think that'd be a waste of potential considering blades can take any living form, and there are already more than enough human rare blades.Monstergirl bunny was a good choice IMO
>>738313589Moral of the story, stop listening to fags
>>738313589Perfectly described MK8D and MKWorld.
Why does Star Fox already generate this much discussion compared to Xenoblade…
Bump.
>>738313723The music was still great, combat was fun and Sena and Euni were also stupidly gorgeous
>>738340764I like Saitom's work, 3&FR was his pinnacle, he's good when he's restrained.>>738342221Only 2 more and they have the same amount of amiibos.
>>738313589>make a massively successful gameFor monolith standards.>only impact it had was the harem photo>previous game is still the most relevant entry in the seriesJust shows how trash this series really is.Without the coomerbait and nintendo's brand and marketing behind it its a worthless franchise. It's the same problem with Fire Emblem, but significantly worse.I'm surprised they haven't embraced gatchashit. If they did, they could potentially make hundreds of millions from the retards that play this slop.
KILL YOURSELF TWITTERNIGGERSTOP RECYCLING YOUR TWITTER POSTS FAGGOT
>>738326323Touch the sword, get rewards!https://youtu.be/qea3SGrprvw
>>738319286How did you get this picture of me?
>>738313589Yeah I'm convinced 90% of the threads here are just bots reposting shit they see from twitter. No one here has actually played Xenoblade 2, they just played Smash and jerk off to pyra/mythra. 3 is 100% the strongest entry and I say that with 2 being my favorite.The rise of anti-woke grifter fags has lead people back to 2 just because it makes their dick hard. Ask them about Klaus, the elysium subplot, thoughts on malos or anything involving Torna and you will get no reply. Do you think thats a coincidence? No. These fags don't play games. They just want to make you mad and increase post count on this dying website.
>>738313589PC when
>>738354650>3 is 100% the strongest entryAbsolutely laughable.>with 2 being my favorite.You don't have to lie, you reduce XB2 to being liked just due its sexualized content like every pedestrian bot you claim.you are surrounded with.
>>738313749And yet despite all that it sold the best, so maybe they should have had some more boobies in 3
>>738315924>>738355725Playing XBC3 right now for the first time. Made it to chapter 6 but so far just feels like Xenoblade Chronicles 2-TWO. Has all the same problems I hated about 2. Shitty basic map/world, boring story, boring characters, boring character designs. Honestly I find it hard people are trying to separate 2 and 3. They literally bounce off each other in dynamic. I only put 3 slightly above 2 because it simply plays a bit better. I'd rather juggle classes than Blades, god damn I hated switching out Blades all the time in that game and the bitch basic maps in 3 at least felt more lively with stuff like monster factions battling each other, or faction drop boxes, or simply just creating shortcuts. Still shit but way more of an improvement than 2.
>>738313589The cat I get, but how the fuck you nut in your swords and make babies?
>>738355912the privilege of the reality warper is that any outcome they wish becomes truth. They wished to fuck rex each with their own body and that's how it happens.
>>738313749XB2 is overrated but no fucking way it’s any worse than 3. >>738313781>0 indicationYou mean aside from the fact that XB2, as bad as it was, is still discussed to this day while XB3 was essentially forgotten about? Your contrarianism and performative puritanism comes off as infinitely more pathetic than “porn addiction”. At least porn addicts are honest about what they like, all you do is bitch about things other people like in your faggoty condescending holier than thou mannerisms. What a vapid and pointless existence you live.
>>738356459That can't be real canon
>>738313749I ignore anyone retarded enough to complain about XC2 "gacha". Do you also think treasure chests with randomized loot counts as gacha?
>>738353196"restrained" is just that he actually got instructions and feedback this time, he even said he preferred 3's development for that reason
>>738357087did you play xeno 2? they weren't real real blades, they were a quantum construct that gathered data and learned about things permanently to preserve life. Pneuma's core crystal is basically a genetic bank, and that's just 1 of her skills. By late in the game Pneuma and Rex are warping reality to flex feats like going faster than light or creating matter from 0. Is is really that unbeliavable that she wishes bodies to physically split her personalities and live happy forever with the man she foresaw 500 years in the past (Torna) that was meant for her?
>>738313589>make a game >this guy shows up and tells you to remove everything good
>>738324359i want to strop those cheeks
>>738313781>Correlation doesn't equal causation.Reddit brainwashed people into thinking this phrase = "correlation disprovies causation"Nigga, maybe it doesn't prove causation, but it sure as fucking shit implies causation. "Correlation does not equal causation" isn't a counterargument, it's literally cope. It's a way of saying that you are only probably wrong rather than definitely wrong.
>>738354650XB3 is our most hated RPG of all time, 3tard
>>738355096>Didn't engage with any of the main plot points of 2 that I literally mention in the post>Goes right back to steering the conversation towards sexualization because the only time you engage with Xenoblade is when your dick is in your hand, not a controllerYeah. Enjoy the 2 cents you make off of ragebaiting on 4chan every hour, saar. Maybe in 2080 you'll actually be able to afford a switch to finally play the game
>>738354650Fuck off Enel. 3 remains our most hated game of all time.
>>738313589X3 was a rushed product, that's why it underperformed
>>738324119>I heard it's very easy to get a softlock there.No such thing exists. Who told you this?
>>738359318>>738354650You lost Enel
>>738313589>retards still comparing 5 years of XB2 sales to 1 year of sales XB3 salesThe last time we got an update on Xenoblade 3's sales, which we haven't gotten an update on in three years, was 1 year after release, where it was outperforming Xenoblade 2's first year sales. With that being said, Xenoblade 3 also had to fight the uphill battle of following a game as embarrassing as XB2, while XB2 had the privilege of resting on the laurels of a great game (XB1) and enjoyed being released in a launch year of one of the best selling consoles of all time. You guys need to keep in mind how much damage XB2 did to the series in terms of sustainability. It's a great game, but by far the most flawed xenoblade and has cast a shadow over the series that it will forever live under.
>>738359861I'm not your poopdick schizo or whoever else you're seething about
>>738356465Most of /v/ prefers to pretend 2 and 3 never existed but that doesnt stop enelcord from constantly shilling those atrocities of gaming
>>738313589xenoblade 2 clears
>>7383135892 > 1 > 3 > XI love all of these games dearly, but each one of them has issues. I think 2 is actually the most flawed, but it also does the most right for me. Actually satisfying ending, lovable cast, my favorite villain in anything, favorite girl in anything, best music, it hits in all the places it needs to.The sidequests are weak, the way progression works (gacha and field skills) is dumb, and I think there's a bit too much in terms of shonen tropes early on, but it develops finely. 1 is harder for me to judge because I haven't played it in almost a decade. I remember liking it, but also getting spoiled on it.3 I think starts off good, but man it turns into a wet fart by the end. Also has the worst villain and most boring protag, and a lot of the cast's character arcs just... stop. Gameplay is one of the best here, I think. However, you can definitely tell that Nintendo Treehouse got their claws into it, what with the reduced number of huge tiddy and also shit like the "non binary" cunt that I hate. Also given that the whole thing seems to be an allegory for shit like... paying rent, I really have to wonder just how deep NoA's fingers got into this one.I also haven't touched X in about a decade, give or take, and remember the gameplay the least. Finally getting the mech was rad, though. But also I had some bad experiences with the fuel mechanic. The story here is the worst. Absolute dogshit. No redeeming qualities, it's awful, and ends with another fucking mystery. The side quests are unironically better story than the main game, and some of the best in the series.tl;dr i want to mating press Nia in the ass
>>738354934It'll get decompiled at some point
gonna be honest, I only liked xc1 and xcx
>>738357407Yeah XB2 development was nearly completely outsourced, staff just gave vague directions to artists cue bunch of girls because why not. XB3 just went back to proper pipeline.
>>738360538Congrats you're a non coomer
Mio was a shit main girl
>>738360250>also shit like the "non binary" cunt that I hateThis is exclusive to the english dub by the way.
>>738360538Same. 2 was mid and 3 was just bad.
>>738360250>my favorite villain in anythingWhy?
>>738354650X:DE is the peak of the series, but other than that you're right.
>>738361987Good voice actor that knows just how hammy to be, has a backstory involving Jin that genuinely transforms him as a person and perfectly fits into the themes of how people change each other, and is also a crazy person, especially early on. Him being a psycho dickhead early on gives a lot more depth to his genuine friendship with Jin revealed in the lategame.
>>738362106His friendship with Jin makes no sense, especially after Torna. Like why did he find Jin interesting enough to start working with him in the first place?
Just bring back xenosaga to make this stupid shitfling finally stop. Not even FE get this bad.
>>738362261Probably because they were both broken people at that point, and Malos saw a lot of himself in Jin. Plus Jin was strong enough and pissed off enough at Amalthus and most of the rest of the world to make the two of them joining a worthwhile agreement at first. Ultimately, it changed the blind rage Malos inherited from Amalthus into wanting to do something right for his friend.
>>738362373Takahashi would ruin it without his schizo wife doing the script.
>>738362373I just bought Pied Piper on steam
>>738362416This is the problem with Xenoblade 2's writing. the characters are written so vaguely people just assume a load of headcanon and think the characters are good or bad solely on what blanks they decided to fill it. The blade system was perfectly crafted to laugh away any plotholes are inconsistencies with the writing. Malos is simultaneously a misunderstood good guy, batshit insane evil, or just a robot doing whatever he was programmed to do, depending on who you ask.
>>738359873>The last time we got an update on Xenoblade 3's sales, which we haven't gotten an update on in three years, was 1 year after release, where it was outperforming Xenoblade 2's first year sales. When a developer or publisher no longer updates its sales numbers years after release it can only mean one thing: it is not relevant enough to publicly share it for the shareholders, if XB3 had outperformed XB2 by now Monolith and Nintendo would rush to mark it in their earning reports to please their investors.This is a business, numbers aren't kept a secret on a whim.
Why in the HECK did he do it? What was his problem?
>>738362416Why was Jin even mad at the whole world anyway? Amalthus was the main issue and he never made killing him a priority until he was directly faced with him by coincidence.
>>738362465When is the translation supposed to be finished?
>>738362952I want to see NoA handle a Xenosaga HD localization just to see how they dance around Jesus Christ making an appearance.
>>738313589all Xenoblade games are horrible how anyone accepts them at all is beyond me
>>738313589you copied this from twitter
I am gonna be honest, the more I played X2, the more I though I was playing a hentai game and it was making me feeling uncomfortable.I loved XC1 for it's story and gameplay, and X2 had some of that, but the fanservice of X2 was so insane, that I was having a boner ( I think this is only game I jacked off that wasn't a proper hentai game) and I wasn't happy of what I was becoming.
>>738363279I am gonna be honest. I wasn't really in the mood to read your nonissue blog shitpost. But here we are.
>>738313589>make a massively successful game> a massively successful gameCome on now.
>>738362979I think it was because he and Lora were basically hunted down by dogs with the implicit support of the world, since they had Amalthus and thus Indol's approval to do so. Keep in mind he and Lora already had a bad experience with that one other guy, I forget his name, you fight him at the end in Torna.
Thread is ending and I haven't posted in it, but 2 has the story I think about the most. I liked the combat in 3 better though, mostly because in 2 the combat doesn't really get fun until post-game and NG+. In both Xenoblade 1 and 2 I kinda just did whatever the fuck and won battles really easily without feeling encouraged to interact with mechanics beyond the surface level until I did superbosses and challenge mode, but in 3 I was messing around with secondary art effects, skills, proper chain attack chains, ouroboros effects, etc. in the main game. It's not that 3 is harder than the other two (it kinda is especially the final boss which actually feels like a final boss but it's still not that hard even on hard) but mostly just the fact you get access to fun set-ups throughout 3's main game while in 2 all the fun stuff is well past the game's end.
>>738363597Still think it's kind of stupid he didn't seem to care about Amalthus. I feel Jin as a whole is just a worse version of Lao from X.
I really don't like cast of 2.
>>738363624Yeah, I think 2 has a major issue with gameplay pacing. once you actually get into orb chains and shit it's fun, but they really dumb it down for you for a while. 3 I think has the ebst gameplay, even if I find the story middling.>>738363739I think he did, but Amalthus is also much harder to get at than anyone else
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>>738313589>people complain about "fanservice" and "anime tropes">peoplethese things that only bitch and whine about games,movies,anime ect.. that dont even play games (mobile and gacha shit doesnt count) should be beaten with a bat for being so fucking stupid along with credit card companies and their handlers
>>738363789Akhos says at one point that taking over the world would be a fairly easy task for them, but killing God should be the main focus.
>>738313749Honestly I agree. It's not even a critique of the characters or plot. Literally just gameplay and absolutely valid. The Gacha system is ass, gacha is ALWAYS ass, and unlocks for it are pretty fucking tedious.
>>738363529I wish Melia could get treatment of XB2 characters...
>>738313749Torna also had a pretty good story if you just ignore everything about base Xenoblade 2 while playing it.
>>738364101I'd rather tragic characters be miserable than turn into the basic bitch anime tropes of XC2. It's like comparing Persona 3 to 4
>>738364192>I'd rather tragic characters be miserableI mean I don't mind. But in Melia's case it just feels like Monolith bullies her.
>>738324359>perfectly shaped assyou're homosexual
I'm just gonna say I think the hate for x's chapter 3 is overblown. It's an alright final chapter and like voltaris and it's battle theme. But fuck, can the cutscenes stop using the basic fucking skell. I didn't customize my robot for 200 hrs just so some gruntsuit hogs all my ace custom's well earned glory.
my main problem with xc3 is the city doesn't have any other races in it at all. are human genes just so powerful that like a single person looks like their agnian blade ancestor and nobody else is a high entia, machina or blade? nobody else freed procreated at all?
>>738364840Did it not have any core crystal characters either? I thought those were in too. High Entia were kinda a mistake and machina were meyneth's creation though a lot of the race stuff is kinda overlooked in 3 just in general besides some minor mentions since all of them get put in the same hellhole time vortex anyway. Machina are basically just metal people and that's that now, in Xeno 1 they were like an alien species because they were pretty much from another planet and the product of a different god.
Remember how many retarded fanfics whe had about this one?
>>738365493I didn't even like Future Redeemed desu. The best part about this fight was the N and M duo fight but the challenge mode kinda sucked anyway. The rougelite mode was too easy, first tried it on hard mode.
>>738364101Schizo
