what the FUCK is a zonai
>>738317476The pinnacle of japanese lore and story telling
>>738317476zonai deez NUTS
>>738317476The super ancient race that was always there since the very beginning, in fact, did you know they were the ones who founded Hyrule and even built the temple of time?Letting Monolith Soft take charge of the series was a mistake
>>738317476Just one of the many, MANY reasons this game stands as one of nintendo’s absolute worst
>>738317476goat niggas from outer space
>>738317763the shitty robots from skyward sword were kinda that already. ancient civilizations are always shit in fantasy settings because they clash with the aesthetic, they're only ever good in sci-fi settings.
>>738317476A baffling replacement for the already existent sheikah.Like seriously they literally just take the narritive place of the sheikah for no reason.Like their design though.
>>738318272Those were blue ancient civilization robots, sweaty. Zonai have green ancient civilization robots. Totally different. No relation.
>>738317476Ancient alien furry twinks. The zelda series now is about femboys, cross dressing, furries, and reddit style open world slop. The generations of Ocarina of Time, wind waker, and Twilight Princess represented Link as a medieval fantasy hero, an archetype of valor and courage. The wandering adventuring who saves his land and his woman from danger and evil.The younger generations seem to relate more to a Link that cross dresses and takes dick up the ass. Every generation has a Link and Zelda game that represents them it seems.
>>738317476hmofa (hylian male on female anthro) bait
I'm not a furry but...
>>738318965Rare hmofa W
>>738318272Ancient civilizations are a cornerstone of the fantasy genre, lil zoom.
>>738317476>>738318107>goatHe's clearly a xoloitzcuintli, dipshit.The Aztec architecture and the entire dog physiology didn't give it away?
>>738318361the entire "story" of TotK within BotW's context is completely fucking terrible. Shit just vanishes for no reason. Other shit vanishes because of shitty handwaving reasons. people vanish and are barely mentioned because we have new characters to focus on. NPCs you helped in BotW are a total diceroll on if they know who link is and if they know you're link or not. two people standing side by side:>some link guy i've never heard of went with the princess to the castle and I'm worried about them>hey link, what was in the castle, where did zelda go
>>738318272Beamos have been around since ALttP anon.
>>738318965but hfoma (hylian female on male anthro) is what canonically happenedrauru ultrahandled that sonia pussy til pregnant
>>738317763which is some retarded shit because SS shows skyloft is the foundation of hyrule but whatever. nintendo clearly doesn't care about Zelda and neither should we
>>738319207They are not living in the internet era anon, there's many npcs that talk about the campion and some that even refuse to acknowledge Link as the hero, hell there's even one that is in love with the one that defeated the calamity and wants to meet him, when Link presents himself she is disappointed that he isn't taller.
>>738317763Monolith only does code jannying for Zelda. Fujibayashi is to blame for how fucktarded Zelda got from a storytelling perspective.
>>738319220Yeah, as statues with eyeballs, not magitech constructs
>>738319207>Shit just vanishes for no reason.It's funny how it took until Switch 2 version voice notes to address what caused all the guardians remains around the BotW world to disappear by TotK even if the reason was still dumb
>>738319439i get that but it's jarring when you talk to someone you actively helped in BotW and they have no idea who you are or what a "link" is. spend countless hours making sure your presence is felt across the entire country just to have it all erased along with your heroic buddies and the technology scattered everywhere
>>738319207>yo i saw zelda she was just over there>lol nvm i was mistaken / lol nvm it was a bad guy imposterhow many times can a single story do this without it becoming an annoyance? once? twice?
>>738319594What was the reason that made all the guardians and all the sheikah tech and shrines just vanish?
>>738319197ahh, sphinxes of dogs.
>>738319364that's why it's bait
>>738319197while it definitely has crossover with Aztec aesthetics, I'm pretty sure zonai design is more based on ancient Chinese ritual bronzehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_ritual_bronzes
>>738319534>statues with eyeballsThat shoot lasers, OoT had automatons too and WW has a "magitech"(dumb name desu) talking hand with powers.
>>738319758Something among the lines of "one day they all turned to dust as they were no longer needed"
>>738319758zelda and purah spent years digging up trash to make special towers in random locations without even planning a paved road or farmland between any of them
>>738319534>build an eyeball statue>it automatically targets and shoots lasers at intrudersisn't masonry magnificent
>>738319859>they were no longer needed>lol jk you didn’t actually stop Ganon that was just all his evil braps and cum he’s been release underneath Hyrule Castle
>>738319915>zelda is safe and sound after the events of breath>5-10 years pass>hyrule is still a ruined, monster-infested shitholewhat the fuck were they thinking?
>>738319827I guess it's just "ancient lost world civilization" stuff mainly based on mesoamerican cultures but with sprinkles of other lost cultures around the world, I mean it is obvious the dragon sculptures are based on Kukulkan
>>738317476Fujibayashi’s shoehorned bestiality fetish
>>738320056after 100 years of the tech being used for evil, the mystic shared spirit of the sheikahs saw link breaking their shit and then said "lol whoops my bad" and hit the undo button on all of it so nobody could try and use it for good again
>>738319364>cockblocked by CHADnondorf
>>738319672Yeah it was weird, and judging by the amount of hearts at the beginning of the game Link did most shrines meaning he combed the map, guess it is an internal joke, or some time travel shenanigans that is never explained or even mentioned.
>>738320381fuck i FORGOT Totk's intro implies link did most of the content in BotW. I'm arguing based on the idea that most people who care enough about TotK's story to complain about it are people who cared enough to get through most of BotW's content.Good lord i hate it when I learn that I was even more justified in my confused frustration than I previously thought.
>>738320308>ganondorf kills goatfucker>fishfucker kills ganondorfIt really is a furry game
>>738319450>>738320114>>738320616What is this guy’s problem?
>>738317476Homages to the pedo cabal's worshipped god, Baphomet.
POST RAURU'S FAT ASS
>>738321015The historical Baphomet was literally just one of the many things the Knights Templar were accused of secretly worshipping though, and was most likely a corruption of the name "Muhammad" (Mahomet in french). He didn't even start being represented as a goat until some 19th century writer wrote a larp book, It's basically pop culture. Believing that the goat version of Baphomet is a real thing is no different from believing that Cthulu is a real demon worshipped by an actual cult and not just something HP Lovecraft came up with
>>738317476Some really corny design. The zonai goat people shit is without a doubt some of the most cringe fucking character “design” I’ve ever seen. Fucking terrible
POST MINERU'S FAT ASS
>>738321539I agree, it's like dev A wanted a furry characters but dev B hated the idea and made them so unappealing even furries won't latch onto it.
>>738318272Ancient scifi civilizations being part of fantasy has been a thing for nearly a century, it's a trend that started in western novels in fact.
>>738320092>Lookout Landing is cobbled together out of spare wood on top of the bombed out ruins of Castle Town>Hateno Village’s comfy aesthetic is ruined by ugly ass mushrooms everywhere>Kakariko Village looks like it got hit by an earthquake True.
>>738317476>>738321793
>>738321657mineru's ass is NOT fat
>>738321793And we know from BOTW that they know hot to make 'em sexy as hell. Everything about TOTK just screams 'dud'.Also why is the web address literally spelling out OP's post?
Is this the thread?
>>738317476A jap fursona, like the Servals. Deal with it.
>>738323046Yes this is a thread. Is this a post?
>>738323046a thread is what you make of it
The moment I laid eyes on Rauru I wanted to do him from behind. Why did they give him such a hot body?
>>738321657https://files.catbox.moe/uiuzvy.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/berq1l.png
>>738317476the founders of Hyrule in the timeline where Grooseland was its first name and stuck for a long while
>>738323465now do rauru
>>738319394>SSAs much as I disliked SS's lore (mostly the Demise stuff and downplaying the Golden Goddesses, I don't necessarily have an issue with Hylia fundamentally or with the origin story for Hyrule) it's way better than TOTK's. I don't know why we had to retcon for SS only to retcon two games later to something that fits in even less.
>>738323676It's easier to write if you don't have to worry about messing up with continuity
>>738318965If only.Had Mineru not been reduced to being Knack 2 you bet your ass Link would be zonai asscheek-diving between his sessions with Zelda.
>>738323937That's what BOTW did, that doesn't necessitate TOTK's weird goat alien furry origin story.
>>738324013I wonder if we didn't get Mineru as a companion ala Navi or Midna, despite her being with us the entire time, because they were afraid of her overshadowing Zelda like Midna did.
>>738323651I might do some pin-ups of him in a minute but I don't do gay stuff to be honest.
>>738324248do et, make AI work
>>738319197I always got more of a camelid/alpaca vibe from her.
a sex fiend
>>738319847Lasers which can very well be magic beams, I'll give you WW though, but that's a minimal part of the game so it can kinda be shrugged off
>>738317476I swear they totally always existed and weren't retroactively shoehorned in.
>>738323465needs to be more on model
>>738325508Zonai devices are magic too anon, and WW having "just" one which is actually the entire dungeon doesn't negate that the concept was used for it.
>>738325516So they're exactly the same as Gorons, Zora, Gerudo, and Kokiri? Dunno why Zeldafags are frekaing out over the idea of a new race being introduced and retroactively 'were always there', Ocarina of Time did that literally 4x as much as BotW and most Zeldafags worship that game.
It's no fish people but I think they did well enough.
>>738325637Because this new race is now not only said to have created Hyrule, which is opposed to what prior games say, but they also fathered the Hylian royal family. It's not just introducing a new race, it's retconning an origin story, and it's not even just that, it's telling you that Zelda is a goat furry.
>>738325732And they'll change it again on new games, I don't see what's the problem
>Ah, what a shame, to be the last of the Zonai, forced to reproduce with a human woman to save my lineage...>Oh that? That's my sister Mineru. She's also a Zonai, sort of "another" last of the Zonai if you will.>Yeah she can get pregnant, we're biologically compatible with humans as you can see with me and my wife and the children we have off-screen that are never shown once.>Mineru reproducing would help to ensure that our line actually survives by introducing more genetic diversity and bolstering the numbers? Don't be absurd!>Now if you'll excuse me I'm going to invite the literal king of evil to live in my castle with me, against the wishes of a woman from the future who has outright told me that he is the king of evil and the wishes of my sister who has always been right and every time I've ignored her something bad happens.WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK DID HE MEAN BY THIS
>>738318965
>>738325835This is the first time they directly contradicted/retconned the prior two games in such a blatant way. It's not simply revealing new information or recontextualizing it, it's outright contradicting something we got directly shown and told about Hyrule and Zelda. The fact is that they did it to SS and all the games before it, AND to the game's own direct prequel, BOTW. Also, agnostic about the validity of doing it at all, people think this particular twist is retarded and Zelda herself being part-goat is gross.
>>738325732As opposed to what, 3 new goddesses who were said to have created the Tri Force and all of Hyrule like in Ocarina of time, which retconned the earlier lore of there being only a single creator god? Or when they then introduced Hylia to try and change that original lore into something that fit more with the new lore, and people called THAT a retcon?The old lore was the Hylian people founded Hyrule and the new lore is they did it with help from sky people, there were 2 total sky people who were then killed/bred out of existence so it barely even matters. It's a novel plot about the founding Hyrule that retcons less than Ocarina of time so I ask you again: Why is that okay but this (which is far less egregious) a problem?
>>738325859Unironically non-memeingly not even in an "I want to fuck her" way, Mineru not at least trying to find someone to have a kid with makes zero sense. She straight up supports Rauru's attempt to preserve their line but does nothing herself? Bullshit.
BotW's story was great for being pretty basic, TotJ is arguably a better game but the story is abysmal. Calamity Ganon >>> any version of that whiny faggot Ganondorf
>>738325994>which retconned the earlier lore of there being only a single creator god?There was no retcon, literally nothing in prior lore gave a background to Hyrule's founding or what created the world. You are extrapolating from a single piece of art in a strategy guide of Link praying to a cross like they intended him to be Christian rather than it being Japs going "uh let's throw in some wacky western religious symbols" they didn't understand.>Introduced HyliaThis was framed as an elaboration. Hyrule was founded around the triforce originally. Now, the people who founded it came from Skyloft. Is it a retcon? Yes, but it doesn't obviate the old information, just expands on it.>The new lore is that they did it with the help of sky peopleThe new lore is that instead of being humans from Skyloft, Hyrule was founded when a local group of unga bunga tribals got fucked by space goat aliens. Zelda isn't special because she has divine blood, but because she's part goat alien. People understandably think this is dumber than the prior lore, and cannot coexist with it like what SS tried to do.
>>738325972See >>738325994, this anon answered it already
>>738326239>>738326216
>>738326216TP had different kind of Sky people, they change the story every single time
>>738321793Marketers ensuring that all the femcels who self-insert as Zelda are perpetually doped up need to make sure there’s never again an idea that there’s another girl. A furry-lady sidekick who’s playing off Link the entire game is a problem. Thus Mineru had look weird and never talk.They still bend themselves into knots to make an OoT -> TP throughline that isn’t “Zelda lost in love” twenty years later, and now there’s infinitely more of them with the wave of nu gamergurls BotW brought in. Not even getting started on the insistence that TP Zelda somehow mattered more than Midna that just amounts to angry REEEEing.
>open thread >scroll down, look for sexually suggestive but still sfw images of Rauru>see none >close thread
>>738325859Rauru was a retard and Mineru was fine as fuck. Should have been her trying to have a kid and being the ruler.
>>738326216How do you know they "fucked" anyway? Rauru has reality manipulating powers he may as well implanted a baby in Sonia's belly.
>>738326302TP presented its sky people's origin as mysterious and their relation to Hyrule a mystery. TP works more harmoniously with SS than TOTK does because it doesn't actually present anything as hard fact. >>738326371It literally does not matter if he put his goat penis in Sonia or not to impregnate her dude, I'm not sure why you're focusing on such an irrelevant detail. The point is that Zelda inherits her magical powers from a goat.
I WANT TO HAVE SEX WITH STINKY NEET MOON-BNUUY>best we can do is shitty mech companiontotk is a disappointment on every levelkill everyone involved with this decisionalsoMATING PRESS LOVEY DOVEY SEX WITH STINKY NEET MOON-BNUUY ON TARD-DRAGONb ZELDAS BACK
>>738325529>>738325859i legit can't find the appeali feel like everything in the zelda universe is incredibly bland and expressionless, maybe that's why characters like Midna, Groose or Tatl stick out so much to me
>>738326436imagine
>>738326460her snarky face does it for me
>fifty seven games in and you still think there's continuity of any logical kind
>>738326434You are the one focusing on irrelevant details when the title of the game starts with Legend, there's always been changes to the story and just now you find it hard to swallow, there was no "mystery" around the sky people, you even meet one.And who cares who are the past relative of Zelda? It's going to be changed later as usual.
>>738326516it also legitimately has too many accessories, it just screams "overdesign" to me
>>738326460She has a very unique design that I personally find to be extremely elegant, and she's really smart which is attractive to me.
>>738326604a bit maybe
>>738326460>tatl>navi but different colorUh, elaborate?
>>738325994>3 new goddesses who were said to have created the Tri Force and all of Hyrule like in Ocarina of timeThe three golden goddesses were introduced in A Link to the past, you don't know shit about what you're talking about.
>>738319197I thought they were bunnies, you know, Link's dark world form and all, but you are right, canines fit too.
>>738326434Dude what is with your retarded headcanons? Sonia spent all of TotK talking about how she has magic divine power and was of a notable lineage, she is fucking clearly from the line of Hylia. Her power comes from SS Zelda, and is just one of the many women of that lineage who *aren't* Zelda. All of Zelda's power comes from Hylia in every game, Rauru is just one of many notable men who get married into the line. There have been thousands of different men who marry into the line over the generations between games, whatever traits they offer are clearly small fish compared to the consistent power of the goddess that keeps manifesting.I swear Zelda loreheads never play their own games and just make up stupid shit to get mad about.
>>738326713>DUDE YOU CAN'T TAKE THAT PICTURE FROM ZELDA 1 TO BE PROOF THERE WAS A SINGLE GOD!>ALSO THIS PICTURE OF 3 WOMEN WAS PROOF THERE WERE ALWAYS 3 GODS!So Alttp retconned it instead of OoT, does that make it any less of a retcon?
>>738326746Most of the time I see them referred to as goat-rabbit-dragon-things. Maybe a splash of canine too. They're clearly not just based off of one singular thing like that retard's suggesting, even if it was an influence on their design.
>>738326820>CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
>>738326662she is at least a tsundere that sticks with you because she accidentally traps herself while messing with youkinda like a proto-midna but she stuck with me because even when you ask her about enemies she is sassy to you "how tf do you not know what a deku is?" kind of
>>738326820>moving goalpostskeep trying
why did on model porn of her stagnate a month after release
>>738326879Ah, I get it, yeah she's more interesting.
>>738326662personality (requires reading so you might have missed it)
>>738326885Goalposts didn't move. You legitimately don't understand the argument.
>>738326926the fact that she lasted a month with barely any screen time at all is a testament to how hard she hit desu.
>>738326965Fuck off retard, I thought he was talking about design
>>738326598>The name is legend soHey anon, we literally SEE and interact with shit in these games. You can't just hard contradict what SS shows us with what TOTK shows us with the excuse of 'legend'. You can contradict spoken information, but not things you do and interact with. On some fundamental level you need to accept that the retcon in TOTK is different than the ones in prior games because the prior games tried to daisy chain off of each other to imply they were sequels/prequels to each other. This is shown with how the new information is always presented as an elaboration, not a replacement. From an out of game perspective they're still retcons, but there's a difference between retconning more information that slots into old information, and retconning information that cannot coexist with prior information. SS told us "This is how Hyrule got founded, and why Zelda is special" in an attempt to explain everything we saw from LoZ to ST, which is why it released with a timeline book. ToTK told us a completely different story that cannot coexist with SS, even as elaboration, which means SS at least, if not the entire prior series, is no longer canon. Whether you think that's good or okay or not, that's the difference between the two.>Who caresA lot of people who played the prior games that did try to connect to each other, even if it was messy.>>738326750The devs themselves literally said the old timeline no longer exists and ToTK is unrelated to them, anon.
Also you're all ignoring that people think it's just gross than Zelda's part goat and her ancestor fucked a goat.
>>738327008you seem upset
>>738326598That’d be fine if we weren’t getting the same shit in all of Fujibayashi’s games>Master Sword is just a beeping robot that after being a talking robot now just constantly shits itself and needs a rest>Zelda’s ultimate power to help is Sleeping Beauty arc>Ganondorf/Demise is just evil because he’s jealous of Zelda’s awesome alien/god ancestors>Everyone just lives in harmony under Zelda with no issue until the evil Ganon goop causes wacky problems like Gorons getting addicted to crack>Don’t expect anything different because we ancientest lored it so that this just happens forever nowIt’s fucking boring, and we don’t even have good dungeons to fall back on anymore.
>>738326997maybe. i can only rely on ai now to get good looking minerus
>>738327089No? That never happened, the "dark world" has changed drastically too, everything changes depending on the game.
>>738327134Oh man, just wait until I tell you what YOUR ancestors did to make YOU.
>>738326926She was barely in the game and nobody bought AoI. Even then that game basically just makes her look like Rauru's tard wrangler. I'm glad we got even as much art as we did and I'd comm more if the artists I'm looking at would ever open up again.
>>738326987Okay then, tell me what was retconned by introducing the 3 goddesses in ALttP?What lore from Zelda 1 and Link's Adventure did it contradict?
>>738327231a shame, really. bad planning
>>738327196What never happened? The post makes multiple claims. Tell me what you disagree with so I can actually address it.
>>738326820Why is it always Christards who get upset about the Golden Goddesses?
>>738319394>nintendo clearly doesn't care about Zelda and neither should weA bitter truth
oh, I just noticed these freaks have a closed third eyeshows you how little attention I paid I guess
>>738319394Now hold on just a minute there buckaroo, do you mean to imply that the official Zelda timeline isn't as thought out or connected as it's purported to be?
>>738326926TOTK in general didn't stimulate much porn, despite selling well it didn't have remotely the cultural/fandom impact that BOTW did.
>>738327468It isn’t. It Hyliafags pretending they care about the NES art assets that depicted Christianity before the series evolved it’s own religious pantheon.
>>738325529Yeah, I'm not entirely happy with where they're at. One of the most pernicious issues is something keeps messing with her eyes, so the longest journey was just figuring out how to get the eyes generating with some clarity. I think it might be the AI sperging out over some of the relevant tags associated with her like 'tears of the kingdom' and 'third eye closed' which causes it to do weird things with her eyes. Maybe the LoRa's I'm working with have some bad baking too. But I'll keep working at it, I like her character.https://files.catbox.moe/qv5vgv.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/3qqynw.png>>738326460Part of it is her noble dignity, her tummy-maxxxed proportions, her fashion/accessories, and her fluffy Zonai features. I feel like the Zelda series has had superb monster/anthro girls for decades so it doesn't surprise me, though I really hate how dirty they did her character.
>>738327218Fucked other humans? It's one thing to call someone's ancestor a whore or a goat-fucker but unlike in the game they can't actually get pregnant from goat-fucking.
>>738327669Sounds like someone wasn't paying attention in science class.
>>738327646novelai does the best mineru
>>738327136>makes patronizing comment>gets response>hurr durrlmao retard
>>738327779>NovelAI does the best-I gotta stop you right there.>t. worked at NovelAI
>>738327345Whatever you are trying to claim, there's never been a clear connection, that's the point of the games, they've always been vague.
>>738327856it's true, though
>>738317476Ancient aliens. No spaceships are referenced, but they’re not human, they’re technologically (magically) advanced, and they came from the sky.
>>738327646>Part of it is her noble dignity, her tummy-maxxxed proportions, her fashion/accessories, and her fluffy Zonai features. I feel like the Zelda series has had superb monster/anthro girls for decades so it doesn't surprise me, though I really hate how dirty they did her character.i haven't played the new ones but I can see the appeal, especially if she is supposed to be a god or whateverwhat did they do to her that has people mad?
>>738320092Instead of having that fucktard's signpost held upward at every corner of the land maybe Nintendo should have implemented an rebuilding Hyrule city mechanic.But that would have actually required effort and since they used their six years development time for an empty underground, and empty sky and caves wisely there was simply no way they could have achieved that.
>>738327779I used to dick around with Novelai and you're right, but AI in general doesn't do anything for me anymore. I wanna commission a real artist but none of the ones I'm aware of that would do a good Mineru are currently taking.
>>738328224that's fair, i've lost hope in a lot of characters and just have to resort to ai now, i can't justify spending hundreds of dollars for just a few pictures
>>738317476the things that rawdogged Zelda cross-eyed. drilled and pumped her like an industrial oil rig.
>>738321475Shalom
>>738327953>there's never been a clear connectionYou haven't played the games.>AoL features the same Link as LoZ, the plot is a follow up>LTTP is sold as a prequel to LoZ to explain what happened>LA is sold as the sequel to LTTP featuring the same Link>OOT is sold as a prequel to LTTP that explains how it happened>MM is a direct sequel to OOT with the same Link>WW is sold as a sequel to OOT, the entire intro explains how we got from OOT to WW>TP is sold as an alternate sequel to OOT, you even meet the OOT Link>PH is sold as a direct sequel to WW, featuring the same Link and Zelda (Tetra)>ST is sold as a direct sequel to PH, you meet characters from WW/PH and their descendants and the intro explains how it was founded>SS is sold as a prequel to the entire series explaining the origin of HyruleLike seriously, drawing a throughline from LoZ to ST might be wobbly, but each game follows up on a previous game in some fashion that is DIRECTLY explained to the player. It's not ambiguous that the game clearly connects to at least one other one.
>>738328413>AoLYou mean the game with two Zeldas?
>>738327954>>738328224NovelAI is relatively easy to work with, that's what you're really noticing.
>>738328459Yeah the game that explains the second Zelda is "Zelda the first" who's been locked in a magical sleep since the time when the Triforce got split.
>>738328413is there any point to the lore if the main objective of every game at the end of the day is to stop Ganon?the only fucking time it wasn't it was in Majora's Mask as far as I know
>>738328168>what did they do to her that has people mad?It's more what they didn't do with her. There's a lot of contextual evidence in TotK that suggests she was meant to have a larger role that likely got cut through script revisions, and as it stands she's barely even a character in it. People actually liked her character and design so it feels like we got done dirty in the sense we didn't get much to work with. And again AoI didn't sell great and her role in that is only a little expanded despite it being an opportunity to flesh her out a lot more. What we learn about her in that game is basically "Everything I say is right, whenever Rauru doesn't do what I say bad things happen, also I like dancing".>>738328316Lucky for you I'm fucking retarded and can afford it, unlucky for us I can't find an artist that's both really good at drawing her and taking right now.
>>738328468i've used other ai tools for 3 years, they just have a really good model for a lot of styles. i don't have to do jank with loras, and their character system is amazing. locally, i can get decent results, but the consistency just isn't there
>>738328572is she really that difficult to draw
>>738328519Isn't that in the NA manual? Also, again, a few things matching doesn't mean the entire game does, it's so easy to do this>BotW and TotK share the same Link and ZeldaThat's your entire argument
>>738328370>guy states historical and biblically accurate fact>gets called a jew by retard who thinks its an attack on his fragile worldview for some reasonNever change /po.... wait /v/?
>>738328649The plot of AOL is literally that Ganon's minions are trying to kill you to revive him because you killed him in the first game. You trying to nitpick details that were explained to us at the time (lesser and greater Hyrule, Impa explaining to you why there's two Zeldas etc.) is just autistically trying to be right about a game that came out before you were even born and you only know about from online arguments.>>738328527That is irrelevant to the point being discussed.>They're not connected>Yes they are, look at how the games connect>Umm who cares it's just about stopping GanonIf you don't care or it doesn't matter to you don't make the fucking argument in the first place.
>>738328645Yes for a lot of reasons, her proportions are janky, she has elaborate clothes, and her head shape is unusual even in a furry context. Also I'm a quality autist so I want the stuff I get done to really look good and not just be a cheapo commission going for like $20. I go for the big guys and get their highest rendering option.
>>738328741Again, BotW and TotK are connected, they are also connected to all the other games through references even Majora's Mask, there's always been loose connections between the games but they always change things.
Don't really care about Zelda anymore now that it's about cross dressing, femboys, furries, and "mile long, inch deep" open world crap.. Think we'll ever get a pre Botw/Totk zelda game ever again or is it tainted beyond redemption at this point?
>>738328839when gooning she doesn't need any clothes
>>738328862>they are also connected to all the other games through referencesReferences aren't the same thing as plot and character connections like the other games. TOTK directly contradicts SS in a way that makes it so they can't coexist, BOTW is more ambiguous but its connection to TOTK puts it in the same boat.
>>738328578To each their own, but I really can't stand how gated and limited they are. You can get some really good styles and unique stuff from Bing/Dall-e 3 sometimes too, but it's still fucking Bing.
>>738317476Aliens who fucked humans and the pointy ear freak ofspring called themself hylians.
>>738328918>Think we'll ever get a pre Botw/Totk zelda game ever againUhh you didn't boughted Echoes of Wisdom? There go your chances of ever getting anything close to real Zelda again
>>738329015Some of her accessories are still pretty hard to draw and a lot of artists get her proportions wrong. But ahem yes, quality is important to me so when it does happen it'll look great.
>>738329019Anon, again, SS had humans as Sky people, TP had weird chicken bald things, it always changes.
>>738321475>anthro goat muslimneed
>>738329105Sonia has pointed ears>>738329181
>>738329093the styles is one reason i like it, i can just switch it up if it doesn't fit my tastes in the moment
Should have made the zonai less furry, then people would like them more, like the zora.
>>738325732Go look up how much of nintendo's shares are owened by blackrock and things will start making more sense
>>738329238Who says they where the first zonai to fuck humans in the lore?
>>738329181>>738326434>TP presented its sky people's origin as mysterious and their relation to Hyrule a mystery. TP works more harmoniously with SS than TOTK does because it doesn't actually present anything as hard fact.
Oh THAT super advanced civilization we never really mentioned until now. Of course.
>>738329510And? In ALttP we never see Dark World denizens and on ALBW we meet the Princess and even its own hero help us, Zelda is inconsistent, deal with it.
>>738329119Should've have made it look like funko pops.
>>738329603>And?And because of that TP doesn't contradict SS. We just know the rumors that say the Ooca are the original inhabitants of the islands or founded Hyrule are wrong. Meanwhile TOTK contradicts SS by telling us that actually Hyrule was founded by goat people and Zelda's powers are goat magic. This cannot coexist with what SS directly shows us.
>>738323651I bet Rauru has a drug addiction and keeps asking Mineru to loan him money, even though it keeps disappearing from her dresser.https://files.catbox.moe/zj3jve.pnghttps://files.catbox.moe/ceso12.png
>>738328527Link’s Awakening is another non-Ganon game, and much like Majora’s Mask it’s widely lauded as a series best for spreading its wings and trying something new.
>>738329858>This cannot coexistand they don't, botw/totk exist in a different timeline from old games and has common elements from them but doesn't have to follow them to a T mainly due to developers themselves not wanting to mess with the lore spaghetti
>>738330235That's literally the point of this argument, anon. Someone was claiming that ToTK's retcons aren't different from prior games' retcons and it coexists with the rest of the series, so they don't understand why people dislike it. I've been arguing why its retcons are different and that it does not and cannot coexist with the rest of the series, and that this is part of why people dislike the new goat furry origin story. That's the centerpoint of this entire discussion.
>>738329119>"its top down so that means its REAL CLASSIC ZELDA!"The "modern audience" Zelda fans just don't get it, all they understand is trooning out, furries, and goon addiction.
>>738330475Who are you quoting?
>>738321539>>738321793Design and art direction overall in botw/totk is so shit, and these niggas take the cake.>>738322597BotW Zoras are almost as disgusting as TotK goats though.>>738320616>>738320868More obvious now than ever that both Aonuma (homosexual) and Fujibayashi (furry paraphilic) are fetishists that don't care about the series they inherited.>>738328918Same.And no. Not until the aforementioned two retards quit or are removed.
Mineru!
Love these Mineru
>>738331410It's an anthro girl game series, simple as.
>>738331552
>>738317476the things the fuels the source of the trap doujinshis I read
>Clothes run along her side, exposing her entire belly and cleavage openly>Just wears a loincloth, at the right angles you can straight up see her monsWhy is Mineru such a harlot
>>738332204Being covered in fur would keep you plenty warm. If the Zonai wore clothing that did any more than the bare minimum of modesty, they'd overheat.
>>738331552Loving Mineru is a sign of good character.
>>738332204she knows she can get it from anyone
>>738332204She's trying to signal that she's DTF because she's too autistic to just say it.
>>738331563He did say BOTW Zoras are ugly, implying he likes other Zora designs.
repopulate the zonai race
So when did Sonia and Rauru do the deed? I was hoping we'd at least see their kid in AoI
>>738319197They look like goats.
post more big fat goat titties
>>738332623plap
>>738332363obnoxious watermark ruining shit as usual
>>738325859How did they became extinct in the first place?
>>738332779
>>738329119Should have made it good.
>>738318831Cool, You’ve used almost every LARPer word imaginable. Could you please somehow shoehorn Christianity in there too?
>>738317476Breeding sows
>>738332846Too hot to exist
>>738332846It's implied that they were killed by their own technology which was the Forbidden ConstructsWe only fight one in the game and he was a huge pain in the ass, imagine having an army of those
>>738323676I find it hilarious we had the oocca, then the hylians and now these goat fuckers as the original sky race. this shit is beyond retarded
>>738332846They created super killer robots that went maverick à la Megaman and wiped most of them out, at least according to Age of Imprisonment
>>738332846They built crazy robotech that's heavily implied to have turned on them and brought them to the brink of extinction. Although TotK doesn't elaborate on this at all, you have to play AoI to get that and it's kind of the only really notable story element it adds.
I have some rare unseen on-model Mineru pics I found while scrapping through twitter accounts but I'm sick of sharing with all shitposting going on in the weekend Zelda threads.
>>738333178>>738332862>>738332386m o a r
>>738333282Can't Zelda just tell them this and avoid all the trouble? Haven't played AoI btw.
>>738332846Autism. They were all too busy playing with Zonai technology (Legos) to breed. Rauru was a rare normalfag Zonai, and it came at the cost of being an absolute retard.
>>738333401
>>738333343it's safe here, don't blueball us Mineru aficionados now
>>738333343I'd appreciate seeing some of it. We're behaving ourselves!
>>738333404You haven't played TotK either? The point in time Zelda gets sent to the Zonai are already extinct aside from Rauru and Mineru. The genocide had already happened.
>>738333631I played TotK but I never collected all the tears before just going to the castle and getting bored of the game.
>>738333343Well this thread ain't that, go ahead and post friend.
>>738333404She didn't choose how far back she ended up going and she was more concerned about figuring out a way to get back to her timeAlso Sonia basically tells her to stfu to stop a time paradox when she was about to tell them about Ganondorf
>>738317763Monolithsoft has 0 say in the story retard, if they did zelda might have a good story for once. Blame aonuma and fujibayashi
Are they doing an Expansion pass for AoI? AoC got one around 6 months after release
>>738333178She works surprisingly well with modern clothes
>>738334538AoI was a massive flop alongside MP4, both failing to even sell 1mil. despite being released during the prime christmas period. MP4 still gets pushed cause of its massive budget and it being a mainline entry, but i’m pretty sure they’re looking to memoryhole AoI at this point with it being a spinoff. Not even offensively bad and/or good to rag on, it’s just that no one cared
>>738335068No one cared because AOC, which got a lot of hype on the idea of depicting BOTW's past and the death of the Champions, ended up being a disappointing alt timeline thing with less characters and downgraded mechanics from HW. The bad rep it got from that prevented anyone from trying AOI, the assumption was already that we wouldn't get an interesting plot, depiction of the time period, or good gameplay.
>>738335068>>738335216People are also just kind of burned out on the BotK era and AoI ended up feeling really superfluous as a result. And to be fair it kind of is, there's really not much there to justify the game's existence.
>>738334654i like it when artists do that
>>738328708Whatever you say, Moshe
Literally how was it not the humans of Skyloft that founded Hyrule instead of slutty goat people?
>>738335623Because TOTK completely disregards the entire series prior to itself, it even halfway ignores BOTW.
>>738317476A shitty story that was unironically was more fun in BOTW when people were making documentary on them and what they could be. FUCK TOTK and its stupid shitty story
a cuppa tea with mineru?
>>738335658I honestly think it's really weird how BotW implied that the Zonai were some kind of Aztec-like proto-Hylians, and TotK makes them goat people from space. The way TotK acts like almost nothing from the previous game happened is so strange.
>Have the sheikah tech be stuck undergournd for thousand and thousand of years>Unleash them once and have them kept active for 100 years>all teaces of them disappears >huuuuuh it all evaporated lol>Except that one guardian on top of robbied lab because huh yeah
>>738328370Baphomet doesn't even have anything to do with jews, it was literally created when a French king accused a bunch of literal crusaders of worshipping it
>>738335893>Except that one guardian on top of robbied lab because huh yeahit was a statue, not actual tech
>>738335068>>738335216DumbassAge of calamity sold 3.5 million units in 6 months, then another 500k in 2 yeara. Age or imprisonment reached 1 million early this year.
>>738336219Yes AOC sold because of the premise of the game. The game didn't live up to the premise. The next musou spinoff did not sell based on this. That's how it works.
>>738317476we'll never know because they'll never show up again because they were wasted on a dogshit game.
I bought AoC because BOTW had an interesting world and story and lots of characters you wantes to play as. RavioliCHAD btw. I didn't boughted AoI because TOTK world is shit and they didn't bother giving even a name to the sages, why would I care enough to buy a game about a story the devs never cared about?
>>738336219Neither of those posts are suggesting anything otherwise.
>>738331563Not a problem if they look good. BotW/TotK design is just ass and fucking ugly, Zoras and everything else.From crossdressing to (bad fetish bait) furshit, and Aonuma openly confessing that he wants Link to be an androgynous fag, these games are just a bunch of the devs thinly veiled fetishes.>>738332539I like older designs, yes.
>>738319859Kek. They could've just said Purah and her goons deconstructed them all and had the guardians hunted down for being dangerous
>>738336610>>738336331Age of imprisonment & Calamity are both successful games sales wise. Those two posts claimed AOC has bad rep that hurt the sales of AOI. Couldn't be further from the truth.
>>738336923AOI sold much less than AOC.
>>738334538Zelda's 40th isn't over yet, trust
>>738336487I didn't buy AoC because it's some alternate timeline shitI did play AoI tho because it trying to fit in the same timeline is a million times more interesting
>>738336967>A DYNASTY WARRIOR spinoff selling a million units under 2 months>on 1 console not even a year old >Being a flop in any shape, way, or form when mainline games with much longer dev times and budget struggle to reach those same numbers on multiple consoles and PC
>>738337327You are intentionally missing the point.
>>738336967Keep in mind AOC came out like 4 years after the Switch came out and AOI came out only a few months after Switch 2 came out and was exclusive to it. Much thinner potential playerbase at that point.
>>738319394my autistic reasoning on this contradiction is that the ancient past scenes from totk has become a legend that has been retold so many times it morphed into skyward sword.
>>738320092>>738319915Princess Zelda is horrible at infrastructure and actually being a ruler.
>>738335929Careful he is a larper. Facts will destroy his fragile self image of being a brave crusader, honoring Christ by spending all day online, typing slurs, and blaming the jews for his crush wanting to date the athlete instead of his skinny fat ass that gets winded going up a few stairs.
>>738317476The past of Hyrule and now the future of Hyrule
>>738317476A play on the Japanese word "Nazo" which means "mystery".Saiyans does the same shit with vegetables (yasai).
>>738337850Well same as "Rito" really which is just "Tori" which means "bird"
>>738338024what the fuck
>>738337861>>738337960deepest lore
I have never played a single zelda game and every single new release makes me feel like I have even less of a grasp on what the overarching plot is actually about
>>738339293There is no overarching plot, only a few games are directly connected and the rest just make references to the past ones.
>>738337861<3 Realistic Mineru
>>738339380This, even breath of the wild and tears of the kingdom feel like they take place in alternate universes from each other
>>738339293it's just mario except replace mario with link, peach with zelda and bowser with ganon, bravo you have a zelda plot
What was the point of renaming the malice goop to "gloom"?
>>738339276these are my wives
Her brother is sexy too
>>738339293>>738339380Only Koizumi and Tezuka cared about any overarching plot or plot at all, and Miyamoto until he was struck with dementia in the late 90's. Aonuma threw that out the window as soon as he took over.
>>738339803Nah, WW, PH, and ST are also part of an overarching plot and tie into the series' plot too. Koizumi only worked a little on WW iirc.
>hey bro can i stay at your place for a while
>>738340219Not with that gay ass ponytail
>>738340219Maybe back when you weren't a fat orc
>>738340219>"Sorry, but, we hold criminals accountable for their actions in the nation of Hyrule."
>>738328741>If you don't care or it doesn't matter to you don't make the fucking argument in the first place.if the only problem Hyrule ever has is Ganondorf then everything else besides that is not really excitingit's like Hyrule is really boring if Link and Ganondorf are not around
Was it ever explained what Squadalah means?
>>738340219>random samurai aestheticNot complaining, just out of place
>>738340704WE'RE OFF
>>738339582yess
>>738317763>The super ancient race that was always there since the very beginningBut that's one of Fujibayashi's favorite tropes.Like the Picori.And the ancient tech society that made the robots in SS.And the ancient Sheikah in BOTW.And now the Zonai in TOTK.And oh boy, wait until you find out how much he loves the "giant demon/demon king sealed deep beneath the earth is slowly awakening" trope. He even squeezed that one into Phantom Hourglass (he's credited as a story writer).Zelda has had braindead leadership for over 20 years and it fucking sucks.
>>738326820>>738326713If you want to get really technical. There is no reference to a Triforce of Courage in the first game. they only had Power and Wisdom. In fact, the game's logo never shows the symbol of the Triforce as we know it. With 3 triangles stacked like a pyramid. It only shows a single Triforce. Presumable the one of Widsom. Since that's the one you have to assemble through your journey.The Triforce of Courage is an addition made for the sake of Zelda 2's plot.>>738341437The vast majority of Fantasy Literature is the same. Just more verbose. There's always something more ancient and advanced that the kingdom is built on top of. It's honestly kind of tiring.
>>738342142I think it's weird that it has its origins in the Numenoreans from Tolkien's work, but they were just straight up full-stop the most advanced people that ever existed. The world is in decline during LOTR but it's not like there were tons of hyper-advanced civilizations before it, just a few pretty advanced ones that built up, peaked with Numenor, and then declined.
>>738342959It has its origin in earlier Greek mythology, where there were multiple ages to the world where the superior men of those times got destroyed by the gods (either Cronus and/or Zeus) for their hubris or some other crime, resulting in our current era (ancient greece) where everything is fallen and men are uglier, weaker, and shorter lived. Atlantis was a further development of this concept, which Numenor is cribbing off of directly. Also interestingly enough Tolkien was concepting the idea of making his setting more directly scifi with the round world cosmology, including making ancient elven technology spaceships instead of magic boats.
>>738343286Oh I mean yeah, I meant in the modern fantasy context. Tolkien was obviously taking notes from Atlantis with Numenor and I'd be a fucking liar if I suggested otherwise.
>>738333282>it's kind of the only really notable story element it addsThey kind of had something else going with the innumerable evil spirits inhabiting the underground. That was something dangerous enough that Rauru and Sonia had to go around and spirit-proof the surface with those shrines, and Ganondorf didn't even have anything to do with it. Alas, they never mention it again after like the first 2-3 missions.
>>738326063Nobody could handle her autism. Except for me, of course, but alas, she and I live in different timelines.
>>738325859His dumb ass was trying to do the whole keep your friends close and your enemies closer play but forgot to watch the literal weasel he let into the hen house.
>>738325859I'm unironically convinced that Rauru was just pulling the "last of he Zonai" thing out of his ass as an excuse to bang Hylian women and kept rolling natural 20s which is why nobody questioned the fact that his sister was right there.
>>738347473you wonder if she ever used a zonai device or construct to, you know..?
>>738347759obviously
>>738342142>The vast majority of Fantasy Literature is the same. Just more verboseI get that, anon, but when 3D Zelda uses the exact same basic plotline three games in a row over the course of over ten years, it becomes difficult to nod along like a drone.
>>738337850>>738338024>>738338135Revali's name in Japanese is just how they pronounce the english word "Rival"
>>738350340ravioli
>>738326926she is legitimately hard to draw, tons of accessories, its easier to just rip her model and use it for cell shaded porn but that's niche as well
>>738337861oh cool mineru will appear in the star fox remake
>>738318374Maybe they were inspired by the ancient zonai designs that they found in their ancient time, the way ancient sheikah tech is clearly derived from more ancient zonai tech
Deer according to AC.
>>738353358The robots are supposed to come from the era when Hylia was incarnate and walking around the earth. The Zonai can't really predate them in any coherent timeline, especially if you want to claim Sonia had her bloodline.
>>738326926barely in the game plus too hard to draw. fanart of her coming out weeks later was nice
>>738353437the species for guest villagers are what matches the model the closest
>>738340219sorry the great evil ganondorf is staying with me in the shed
I want Mineru to pee in my mouth
>>738321793>even furries won't latch onto itYeah about that...
>>738355034
>>738317476I opened this thread because I thought the OP was furry Hades II art from the thumbnail.
>>738323465Remove the dick and give her some panties.
>>738352629This. She has a weird head that has a humanoid chin with an animal snout. I've tried drawing her and it's extremely difficult to not just take big liberties with the design.
>>738356640sex
>>738321793Why did they do nothing with this nigger? A whole fucking ancient history game and he isn't even fucking in it and instead they have robo-link made up for that game only.
>>738353437oh so I guess splatoon characters are actually squirrels
>>738333463>>738333496>>738333898My apologies, got busy. Didn't mean to blueball anyone here. I was the anon dumping fanart last weekend in the zelda girls thread on saturday, but regreted doing so after all the shitposting started. I'm using a bulk downloader to grab images from pixiv and twitter and it takes a long time to sort and delete everything, so it's frustrating when it doesn't get any appreciation.Anyways, here's some Mineru fanart I found deep into artist's galleries. Not sure if these have been posted anywhere yet.
Okay that's all I found for now. Still sorting new thousands of pictures, I'll post anything else I think is new...
>>738317476Fallen Angels/Demons
>>738319207What the hell happened to all my Stuff? OK, the Weapons are damaged by the Gloom, but what about all the Armor and Equipment I had by the end of Botw?
>>738319394>>738337406You retards. How have you not picked up that Botw and Totk are reboots?
You wouldn't fuck a goat, right? Right?
>>738361886I'm Irish, what do you think?
>>738361846By the official timeline, BOTW and TOTK are part of the same narrative continuity of the other games. Even if we ignore the official timeline (which we should, it's retarded, there are actually at least 3 or 4 zelda continuities), BOTW and TOTK contain references to the events of earlier zelda games and items from those games. In BOTW you could headcanon that the items were not canon (because they were DLC), but they're base game for TOTK.
>>738362093>Wants to ignore the timeline and claims shit like ALTTP, TP, and WW not following OOT>Puts weight on BOTW and TOTK having shit like Majora's Mask in a treasure chest
>>738327134I'd fuck the lady goat so it's understandable her ancestor did.
>>738317763>that was always there since the very beginningA true nuggy walks among us
>>738362093>BOTW and TOTK are part of the same narrative continuity of the other games.Literally no confirmation of this.>BOTW and TOTK contain references to the events of earlier zelda games and items from those games.Irrelevant, references have no bearing on a story.
>>738362183TP and WW are obviously sequels to OoT. LTTP isn't. Here are the Zelda continuities:Zelda 1 -> Zelda 2LTTP -> Oracle Games -> Link's AwakeningMinish Cap -> Four Swords -> Four Swords AdventuresOoT -> MM -> TPOoT -> WW -> PH -> STThen we get BOTW -> TOTKWhich is a sequel to all of them through some kind of wishy washy timeline merge thingSkyward Sword could conceivably fit at the start of any of them. >>738362476It's official canon, even though it's stupid. Like, you literally find fucking Majora's Mask.
>>738362841>LTTP isn'tOOT was literally sold as the story of the Imprisoning War mentioned in ALTTP in developer interviews before it came out. You can go back and check.>Separating ALTTP from LoZ and AoLAgain, ALTTP was advertised and designed as the backstory of Ganon in LoZ, pretending they're not connected is ignoring the entire framing of the game.>OoT -> MM -> TP>OoT -> WW -> PH -> STThese aren't really separate continuities when the entire gimmick here is that they hinge on a time travel event. Sure, they don't interact with each other, but both of them coexist as functions of the timeline splitting at the same event.
>>738363017>OOT was literally sold as the story of the Imprisoning War mentioned in ALTTP in developer interviews before it came out.Yeah and then the game actually came out and it fucking wasn't. Obviously some parts of OoT are vaguely inspired by LTTP's tale of the imprisoning war, but there are MAJOR differences that would make continuity not possible. LTTP straight up can't happen if it was only Ganon that was sealed in the sacred realm, and with only a third of the triforce. LTTP's sages had to be Hyilians because their descendants, the maidens, were all Hylians. Also WW already established that when Ganondorf eventually broke out after the events of OoT, there was nobody there to stop him, and the world got flooded. >Again, ALTTP was advertised and designed as the backstory of Ganon in LoZ, Except he FUCKING DIES in LTTP. And then every trace of his influence was erased from reality. It was NOA marketing lies. >These aren't really separate continuities when the entire gimmick here is that they hinge on a time travel event. True, I should have bracketed them or something
>>738332994>no argument
>>738363243>if it was only Ganon that was sealed in the sacred realmWho says? He's the only one who got sealed in the ending of OOT, there's nothing saying other people couldn't end up there before or after.>LTTPs sages had to be Hylians because their descendants, the maidens, were all HyliansSetting aside I could buy Link knocking up Ruto, Saria, Naburo, and Impa (in a better world) and there's no info on cross-compatibility, TP handily solved this by having them NOT become the sages in the child timeline. Instead it was some glowy fucks who could be anything. Of course Nintendo ruined this by putting ALTTP in some 'failure' timeline instead of the child timeline, which I vehemently disagree with but regardless.>WW already established that when Ganondorf eventually broke out after the events of OoT, there was nobody there to stop himHandled by ALTTP not following the adult timeline.>And he fucking dies in LTTPAnon, Ganondorf dying is fucking meaningless. He dies all the time. AoL is literally about his minions trying to revive him after he's killed, and so are the Oracle games ultimately.>>738362841Also, you forgot ALBTW, TFH, and EOW just to be anal about it, though where they go is painfully obvious.
>>738317476A magical little pile of secrets!
>>738317476He is soooo sexy. Wish the game model had a happy trail and more of him in general
>>738361607>>738361375>>738361107>>738361070>>738360918god i want to impregnate her
>>738363557There's no point arguing with you retards since you ignore everythingBut ok, my argument that everything you said is false, Link is still hero, he's still going around vanquishing evil and saving girls, if you think that zonai are furry then every other non hylian race is a furry too, and for crossdressing, well, you control buttons you press, if link crosdresses it tells more about you than game
>>738363610>Who says? He's the only one who got sealed in the ending of OOT, there's nothing saying other people couldn't end up there before or after.Because you go there multiple times and it's empty except for the sages and then Ganondorf at the end. Nobody other than the sages knows about the triforce or the sacred realm at all. Unlike in the imprisoning war, in which many many people fought to try to reach the golden land, with many of them ending up trapped on the other side, who populate the dark world in LTTP. As far as the idea of people going in there AFTER the sacred world was SEALED, I don't think I need to explain why that doesn't make sense. Also, in LTTP, the entire triforce is in there with him, not just the triforce of power. >Setting aside I could buy Link knocking up Ruto, Saria, Naburo, and ImpaSaria is a fairy forest ghost thing. It's also very unclear if ANY of the sages actually survived other than Zelda. >TP handily solved this by having them NOT become the sages in the child timeline. LTTP can't be a sequel to TP either. TP shows that Ganondorf was sealed in the twilight realm when Link went back to warn Zelda in OoT, and he was stuck in there until the events of TP, and then almost immediately got killed. Nintendo had to invent the downfall timeline (which doesn't even conceptually make sense) because LTTP doesn't work in either the adult or child timelines, and they were too stubborn to admit that not all of the zelda games are part of one giant continuity. >Handled by ALTTP not following the adult timeline.See above>AoL is literally about his minions trying to revive him after he's killed, and so are the Oracle games ultimately.LTTP doesn't describe Ganondorf as some ancient warlord of darkness who game back to life through the efforts of his orphaned magical minions. He was the leader of a tribe of thieves who came out on top in the race to the triforce in the golden land and was sealed in as an emergency measure.
>>738363610>though where they go is painfully obvious.Yeah, ALBTW goes after LTTP, and EOW and TFH go into the fucking garbage where they belong
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