This guy is based as fuck
>>738317943Liking chaos is a lefty trait
>>738317998what a fucking bizarre thing to say
>>738317943based on what?
>>738317943Is he? Or is he a retard with no charisma that always loses?
>>738318096It's a very normal thing to say
Abaddon the Cucked.
>>738317943>had to retcon his failed crusades into being all part of his grand keikaku (autor note, it means plan) so he didn't look like a complete jokeyeah nahNow Huron though, now that's a warmaster i can get behind
>>738317943Why didn't the combined might of Space Marines, Imperial Guard, Eldar and Necrons manage to stop him colony dropping Cadia?
>>738317943Failbaddon has no arms
>>738317943
>>738317943I always found abaddon to be rather boring, all of his associated chaos shit too. Honestly the worst part of the setting and there are much more interesting characters fucking about with chaos than him.
>>738317943is he going to be the first chaos legendary lord when they get added to that new total war?
>>738318506The Eldar and Necrons weren't actually there. The Eldar showed up afterwards and the only Necron present was Trazyn.
>>738318669I never much like chaos because it seems like they're designed to be saturday morning cartoon villains. Their win condition is pretty much the universe the way it is, so most of the time they show up to be dick bags, and then get defeated while running off into the warp saying I'LL GET YOU NEXT TIME HE-MAN!I like the idea of the warp, and the collective emotional impact of conscious life in the universe creating this dark reflection on the other side that fucks with things, but CSM is just where I get fucking bored.Except for Bile. He's based.
Ultramarines are my favorite Astartes.Primaris minis look cool.
kek this is the most overdesigned shit I've ever seen. Reminds me of pic related
>>738318770Absolutely.Can't believe they put in fucking >Eldar over Chaos.
>>738318771>*smacks vox* Das rite, we'z be stomping dem tyraneed bug muthafuckaz n' shhiiiet
>>738318783>the only Necron present was Trazyn.you need more?
>>738317943What's the most unbelievable part of Abaddon is that he ran 12 motherfucking crusades with a bunch of seething chuds that hate each other and failed every time. You would think after like the 8th failure they would just say "This guy fucking sucks" and not follow him. Maybe they just didn't have anything better to do.
>>738319202billions must sigh
what a dogshit thread holy shit
>>738319202I think current lore is that the previous crusades weren't failures, they were 4d keikakus to weaken the boundary to the warp at strategic places, and Cawl is in the process of reverse engineering necron tech to make new pylons to close the rifts.
How are Chaos Marines going to counter Primaris in that new Total War game or even in lore in general?
>>738317998It's the whole inverted values thing that makes redditors call the most vile thing you have ever seen wholesome
>>738319334Aren't chaos marines already juiced up on warp shit?
>>738319202>>738319320Even in the old lore the prior Black Crusades were only 'failures' in that they didn't completely take Cadia. Almost all of them managed to get forces past Cadia's defenses to wreak havoc in the wider Imperium, and they were all bloody offensives that reaped a major toll on the Imperium.
I still desire a new Eldar game.
The REAL GOAT right here
>>738317998This
>>738320403guess I'm just not a fan of that chunky artstyle
>>738319202He succeeded every time (according to GW's retcons anyway.)
>>738317943I'm tired of the Emperor and all the drama that derives from him. The necron and orcs are more efficient at killing each other when there's beef between factions.
>>738319202You're free to challenge him, it's just that he's constantly juiced with the 4 gods and wields the best armor, weapons and a sword that can actually kill the Emperor
>I'm mad that my primarch's father was a dick to him 10000 years ago>I'll shit up the galaxy and make everyone's lives worseChaos Space Marines are the biggest joke in the series.
What faction is:>Has the gayest characters in-universe>Has the gayest players out of universe>Has the most female players>Has the most teenage players>Has the most Nazi players>Is hardest to play>Is easiest to play>Is most annoying to play against>Is cheapest to play>Is most expensive to play>Is the easiest to paint>Is the hardest to paint>Has the coolest tank>Has the coolest "newbie squad" models>Has the coolest chapter master equivalent
>>738318645Does the suit have a little backdoor for dropping loaf?
>>738321653>Has the gayest characters in-universethe salamanders
>>738319202I mean, what DO you even have to do as Chaos Space Marine?Not the big named guys who all have their own little "hobbies", the everage CSM.Half of them probably just sit around menacingly or fight each other till some mother fucker tells them where to fuck shit up.
>>738317998What do lefties like about Khorne?
>>738319320Yeah, yeah, it's all keikaku. The C'tan are just waiting and intended to be shard'd, the Necrons saw the future and slept until now for a reason, the Emperor also saw the future, and so did the Eldar, and so did every faction of Chaos and everyone has done everything because it's all their big super secret strategy, sure.Or maybe that's just a cop out by GW writers.
>>738320824>orcsOrKs.
>>738321653>Has the gayest characters in-universeprimaris>Has the gayest players out of universeeldar>Has the most female playerstyranids>Has the most teenage playersspace marines>Has the most Nazi playersimperial guard>Is hardest to playany of the magic-heavy ones>Is easiest to playspess muhreens>Is most annoying to play againsteldar/genestealer cults>Is cheapest to playmuh reens>Is most expensive to playany horde army>Is the easiest to paintreens>Is the hardest to paintany horde army>Has the coolest tankimperial guard, leman russ>Has the coolest "newbie squad" modelsadeptus mechanicus>Has the coolest chapter master equivalentyou mean a big on-field leader? admech/tyranids
>>738320576Fun fact; the Darksiders devs were working on a 40k game before THQ imploded.
>>738321653>>Has the gayest characters in-universeImperium due to sheer numbers>>Has the gayest players out of universeSpace Marines due to sheer numbers>>Has the most female playersNids or Orcs >>Has the most teenage playersSpace Marines>>Has the most Nazi playersMost likely guard, despite what you see online Black Templar fans are chill, people just hate on them because of old "heresy!" memes>>Is hardest to playEldar/Dark Eldar, Genestealer Cult, Emperor's Children>>Is easiest to playSpace marines, Imperial/Chaos Knights>>Is most annoying to play againstCurrently Necrons and a CSM defiler list, but usually anything OP or that can manipulate dice. My pick is Eldar.>>Is cheapest to playAnything off ebay, probably marines due to resells, other then that Knights of any flavor>>Is most expensive to playAdmech, Orks, GSC, Guard, Tau>>Is the easiest to paintNecrons and Stodes>>Is the hardest to paintAdmech, GSC, T-sons>>Has the coolest tankGuard for the Baneblade, Tau Hammerheads are cool too>>Has the coolest "newbie squad" modelsAssuming you mean "fresh recruits" then guard (guardsman) and Tau (fire warriors)>>Has the coolest chapter master equivalentOrks and Necrons on a related note fuck you for reminding me about my pile of shame, I'll work on my kitbashed defilers later
I like Tyranids and Necrons :)
>>738318181Regurgitating secondary talking points may be normal but it makes you a complete faggot.
>>738319334Fabious bile says he's working on chaos primaris>>738319446Yes but they have limits
>>738317943>5edgy7me anarchist space demons>Entirely unsympathetic because members range from 'hilariously psychopathic' to 'daddy issues'>'All according to keikaku' battle philosophy>Traitor legions are the biggest losers among the astartes... and Perturabo>Aesthetics, vehicles, and weapons are just Imperium tech but with spikes, pointy trims, wrinkly mutant flesh, and eyeballs>Races within the faction are just Evil Human, deformed Evil Human, and rainbow DaemonsYou can enjoy whatever faction you want, of course, but I don't see the appeal of the "poop-kill drug-scheme" quartet.
>>738317998>liking this makes you left wing apparentlySometimes the gayest retards are allowed to post.
>>738322153senseless violence and destruction. Just look at your average leftist rioter
>>738317943He was supposed to be a jobber. Why didn't he job?
>>738323861'Right-wing' people want to self-insert as the Imperium because it's the "Human" faction, thus any person who likes Chaos is a leftist and anyone who likes Xenos are race traitors.
>>738317943Praise the Great horned Rat!
>>738317943Some faggot in these threads recommended me Lords of Silence about a month ago, finally had time to read it and finish itWhat a shitty book, I cant believe this is "one of the better ones" according to /tg/ (got so mad about it I went into the archives to see if it was anon trolling me). Then again most of the posts there read like GW's marketing department
>>738322517It was a MMO, and I'm not sure it would have worked from what I heard about it
>>738325327
>>738325931It's probably for the best it never happened, unfortunarely.Shame the Eldar stuff never got past the concept phase.
>>738317998I hate the culture war so fucking much Bros.
>>738319487Seriously. You think the Imperium shit itself and redirected like half their standing forces to fight the black crusades because they had a record of being ineffective? Those are some of the most dangerous things the Imperium has to deal with in a universe of dangerous things.
>>738317943Failed crusades aside, Abbadon's biggest delusion is thinking he's not just another pawn of Chaos.
>>738325931>we could have had a timeline with a WH40k MMO instead of fucking WoWnot fair
>>738322456Why do women like nids so much? Not the first time I’ve heard this.
>>738325805the death guard sucks. you got tricked by nurglings. don't listen to the night lords dickrider either, the only good chaos legion books are about the emperor's children and thousand sons
>>738326416To women they are cute in the way shitbulls are
>>738326391WoW clones were a dime a dozen back then and they almost always flopped.That includes the actual Warhammer Fantasy one (even though I still think that game is kinda cool and deserved better).
>>738326391>MMOFuck off grindslave
>>738326391Warhammer MMOs are rather cursed, none of them last long and that if they even get through production
>>738326452It amazes me how much people glaze the NL books considering how they end.
>>738317943FRIENDSHIP WITH ABADDON ENDEDHURON BLACKHEART IS MY FRIEND NOW
I can't get into 40k because the lore is all like "these robot skeletons have super duper tech and are potentially the most dangerous thing if they wake up and get their shit together" or "these bugs are just straight crazy yo" or "these demons from interdimensional hell would kill us all if they got out" and then the novels and such have some random guy slap them around no problem because the power armor toys sell better
>>738326452I hated the book and I'm a DGfag. I'm not planning on reading anything else from Warhammer after this but if I did, it certainly wouldn't be Tranny Sons, least interesting legion and chaos god by far
>>738321653>Has the gayest characters in-universeCustodes>Has the gayest players out of universeCustodes>Has the most female playersMarines>Has the most teenage playersMarines>Has the most Nazi playersNids>Is hardest to playCustodes>Is easiest to playSisters>Is most annoying to play againstVotann>Is cheapest to playSisters and Amech>Is most expensive to playCustodes>Is the easiest to paintSisters and Admech>Is the hardest to paintCustodes>Has the coolest tankKnights>Has the coolest "newbie squad" modelsKnights>Has the coolest chapter master equivalentCustodes
>>738326502They’re fun when they’re PvP focused but those are also the most likely to fail
Perturabo mogs every traitor primarch
>>738326502you're out here painting fucking plastic toys in your free-time, stones and glass house ect
>>738318096>what a fucking bizarre thing to sayfuck off with thatif chaos was real, california would be a permanent warp rift into slaaneshes domain
>>738326587huron's full retard moment was he actually had legitimate reason for flipping the middle finger to the imperium. except he then went to chaos for help.
>>738326587I like his pet chupacabra there
>>738326695ThisIt's why I prefer Nurgle above all
>>738326673The man who 'carried' the Heresy into failure?
>>738323950Nail on the head
>>738326673OH LAWD HE BACK
>>73832673740k kinda lacks rebels to imperium that don't turn to chaos, it's an inevitable thing for the most part
>>738326771then go to india, my dudeyou might meet a great unclean one named after some of their brown gods
>>738318181No, its a fucking faggot thing to say
>>738323861Yea it kinda is, idk the lore but he makes me think he wants to burn rome and destroy a nice civilization
>>738326808Only because it's convenient to have SM vs CSM for branding's sake. If you want to go down that route Night Lords are a renegade legion.
Grey Knights are cooler than the golden bananas
>>738326793So who's he a daemon prince of or have they walked back Belakor being the only undivided prince?
>>738326776is there a man capable of controlling fulgrim or angron?no, peter turbo did the best with what he hadno one could have done better
>>738326673The primarchs look so much cooler with their helmets on desu
>>738327032Everyone does, even pretty women
>>738326673a low bar
>>738326390He was going to reject chaos and only become renegade, but before Loken could convince him you-know-you stabbed Loken in the back with a anthaname dagger
>Gay Knights>Deffwatch>CucktodesFucking bloat. Just put them them all into Imperial Agents lol.
>>738327067SoB helmets are so cool
>>738327016>is there a man capable of controlling fulgrim or angron?That is where your logic is flawed. Do not rely upon Man to control that which has been blessed by the Divine. The Gods will see them upon their path.
>>738326591You have to remember that the people saying that don't have a lot of power or are a part of that faction and want their guys to look cool in loreIt's established that every codex is written from the perspective of a scribe with in that faction so propaganda is bound to happen
>>738317998
>>738327110You-know-who*
>>738326948But even normal human rebels against the imperium almost always turn to chaosim pretty sure NL can still take demon units in their army roster still
I'm sad that Gorgutz is going back to his DoW1 look as I think his DoW3 look was top tier and fitting for his personality and kunning. Who doesn't want to grab a Space Marine from a moving vehicle a battlefield lengths away?
>>738327138They're just Sallets with angry red eyes but dang if it doesn't work
why do WH40k fans advertise the faction like the Sisters of Battle are badass when they only exist to job to the current threat a Muhreen chapter has to kill?
>tfw going to be playing my first ever 40k tabletop game Friday as Necons
>>738317998Liking Chaos aethstetic doesn't make you a leftist faggot. Agreeing with Chaos does.I collect Chaos just to be the villain. I'm playing Evil Bible Thumpers who massherd humans into Cultists for both war and livestock purposes.
>>738327276Good luck
>>738327272fans know the sisters are fodder only fit to be used as red paint. they're just cool looking
>>738319334I was going to make the ol' bigger batman metaphor, but then I remembered that DC actually made bigger batman and people loved itdidn't the batmen fight in a recent release or something?
What about a 40k universe where everyone didn't act like retards? I know that's the source of the conflict, but use your imagination here.
>>738327272Why 40k "fans" hype IG all the time despite being unpopular on both TT and vidya?
>>738327276watch out for space marines, they can currently do eldar tricks better then eldar depending on detachment, the new one can make a land raider move 21 inches through terrain + up to 6 inches for disembarkment
>>738327271The pantsu on head look is the true appeal.
>>738327272Fand of every faction that isn't Space Marines often have to either rely on head-canons or ignore established lore because at the end of the day Marines make more money than everyone else so they're the only ones allowed to actually score major wins.
>>738326673>became a faggy daemonnight lords stay winning, and their primarch is fucking dead
>>738317943not really. he's just throwing a massive tantrum that has lasted for millennia
>>738327276>playing 40kMy condolences
>Beakies ain't got any beaks no more
>>738327383Because they're expendable average joes with cool military hardware. If you're not a Marine or a Sister, you're part of the militant humie swarm.Personal opinion but they have the coolest helmet too.
>>738327635To be fair, they also hated their Kurze while he was still alive. In comparison:>be ANGRON>detest your legion and never get over the gladiator bros you wish you died with >your legion still adores you and ruins itself with butcher's nails to be more like you
>>738327378>40k universe where everyone didn't act like retardsMaybe we'd get some kino faction team-ups then
>loyalists just got a teleporting, matured lion>the rock is still active so it's fair to say all of big e's loaned toys like the excindio are still there>chaos boys got demon prince perturaboabout time they got rid of abaddon, the cool kids are back
>>738327378I'd settle for alternate retardation. Just for variety's sake.
>>738327383Notably expensive to collect.Maybe the most misunderstood and misrepresented army in the setting. The average tourist isn’t aware they field a lot more than just basic bitch guardsmen chaff.Even a lot of the vidya just portrays the entirety of the guard as useless fodder than only exist to get rescued by marines.
>>738318096dunno, you could probably make it fit>nurgle for the bug chasing and pretending that all these sexually transmittable diseases are not an issue>slaanesh doesn't even need an explanation>khorne for riots>tzeentch for the subversionin the end though, you have to be a supreme retard to side with chaos. the only people who might actually have gotten what they wanted out of that deal were world eaters with nails, and even there someone like Kharn would probably decide to not fall for it again
Nobody cares about Perturdabo
>>738317943>AbbadonWarboss>Black LegionWaaaghIt just so happens that actual Orks are more succesful with their Waaghs than Black Crusades
>>738327378wouldn't that just be everyone else working in harmony to stomp out 'nids, Chaos, and the still retarded Orks?
>>738327383they do get the best books
>>738317998it took me a second but you're absolutely correct
>>738318858some of the legions and their fall was interesting imo.the emperor's children sliding from haughty artsy fags into degeneracythe thousand sons getting fucked over by magnus' miscalculations and getting dragged further and further into the grasp of chaosthe alpha legion and whatever the fuck they are even trying to dothe word bearers are also still interesting imo due to how easy it would have been to prevent them from falling, and how Emps completely ignoring their basic nature pushed them into chaosthe ones that were just throwing a tantrum are rather boring though imo. out of those, only Horus felt interesting, because he could easily see through chaos' bullshit initially and knew that it lied to him when it showed him those pictures of emps being deified. but he also just really liked what he saw and decided he wants that for himself.the iron warriors, death guard, black legion and world eaters are the most boring imo.
>>738328052>read Dead Men Walking as my first IG book>it reads like ntr fanfic with the MC getting cucked by a muscular and blond chad while he's out trying to be a soldier
>>738328343That's what IG fans want and like
>>738327761quite fond of kasrkins scions are alright
>>738328278>death guardI have no idea where Mortarion even stood in terms of Chaos. DG was basically done in by their second in command working behind the scenes and putting Mortarion into a situation where he had to choose between DG suffering in the Warp forever or joining Nurgle. Khan called this cowardice later.
>>738317998Chaos is still better than your soul being turned into a bullet for Johnny Spess-Muhreen.
>>738326391Clearly it wasnt as good as wow if it didnt survive.
>>738328343>Eldar get a series of books>It's actually about how the Eldar are stupid and incompetent and get dominated by Marines>Tau get a book>It's actually about a Marine waging a one-man war against an entire Sept and winning>Orks get a book about Thraka>It's actually all just build up to him getting killed by a Marine (But he got better!)>Angron gets a new book>It's actually about Grey Knights>Fulgrim gets a new book>It's actually about Black Templars>Necrons get a duology>It's actually about them running away from Marines and the ImperiumAny time a non-Marine faction gets a book it's essentially a dice roll to determine if they'll actually get a good showing or if they'd just be embarassed.
>>738328535Chaos is never ever a good idea in 40k. It's basically chosen by two types of people: desperate with nothing to lose and those who think they can outwit the devil. Tiny minority actually makes it on the Chaos side if they get noticed by their god.
>>738317943Abbigail is just a lvl 30 action-figure with movable joints and lvl 100 gearas soon as drach'nyan has its fill it'll suck him up with his arms and turn into a demonprince or something
>>738328492Mortarian fucking hates chaos, but copes by pretending he's the one in charge and he's only using it as a tool.I don't remember the exact details of the timeline, but I think Mortarian had basically already sided with chaos by the time Typhus pulled a fast one on the Death Guard and forced Morty into committing to Nurgle in particular and becoming a plague moth.
Maybe have some books where non-horde xeno faction interacts with some other xeno faction?
>>738317943I mean thanks to Abaddon there are black cadians now. So he truly devastated the Imperium
>>738328662I am an eldar simp. I love elves in practically all fiction. luv me some knife ears with superiority complexes and whatnot.... I always fucking pray they get no attention from writers because in 40k they always suck. Especially that fucking useless cunt Mike Brooks, the faggy little mohawk boy. He's as edgy as banksy. As in a government shill.
>>738328851They tried that a while back. Didn't sell well.Dawn of War REALLY gives the wrong impression on how 'proper' 40k faction representation works.
>>738321680no, a system for recyling and eating it. Stop wasting biomatter, citizen. Planets burn or get slurped up by xenos for having any in the setting
>>738328851There's one about a bunch of Orks fucking around on Commaragh called the Da Big Dakka
>>738329052Is he the guy that writes not metaphorical gay stuff?
>>738328665Getting sacrificed and your soul forcibly ripped to give a guy one(1) singular individual bullet is good?
>>738322302>The C'tan are just waiting and intended to be shard'd, the Necrons saw the futureDid they actually claim that?That would be pretty retarded. Their prior motivations were perfectly fine, and the Necrons didn't even need to see ahead into the future because they had the Silent King being awake, roaming around and seeing the nids approaching.At least I think it were the nids that unsettled him and made him come back.
>>738317943I was one click away from buying the Weta Workshop statue last yearhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJq9jqDqRcc
>>738326281The Imperium is constantly at battle with someone somewhere, and the black crusades only happened every couple centuries or so. Even with how destructive they are, it would have been wasteful to have all these resources that are needed elsewhere laze around Cadia just in case Abby pulls another stunt
I liked the Fulgrim book.Tamaris rules, just an honest duelist who never gets his satisfying duel because his fellow Emperor's children are dickbags and the Emperor's Champion is a certified retard that thinks he can defeat a Daemon Primarch.
>>738329327>Black Templar is a certified retardMany such cases
>>738321718They can just get engaged in the great game, which is on a completely different scale than their battles with the Imperium anyway.I am not sure if they are ever specifically mentioned to engage in it, but the Plague War series had some chapters about Nurgle's domain being encroached upon by Tzeentch and Nurgle ordering the Death Guard to withdraw from Ultramar to come back and defend it.
>>738317943Iron Snakes are the best chapter
>>738329129He's the Black Library punk that writes edgy things like making eldar black and brown and the Lion as a softboi. Also a lot of gay and similar shit, yes. He's about as cool as Keir Starmer. A decent writer that is entirely controlled by his ideology.
Remember Chaos-chan?
>>738329189>At least I think it were the nids that unsettled him and made him come back.Doubt. Pre-nerf Necron tombs worlds were actively avoided by nids not matter how tasty or abundant the biomass on surface was.
>>738326391we had eternal war or whatever it was called, which got downgraded to a smaller and smaller scale with every further communication from the devs, until it was just released as a barely playable lobby shooter that was abandoned shortly after
>>738329189No, not really. But there's still some specific C'tan that are sort-of, maybe, possibly implied to still be active, or at least still influencing people like the Void Dragon on Mars. And some of them weren't shattered and just left. So if you're speaking extremely broadly you could say there are possibly C'tan that might have decided to take a few million year break from the galaxy to chill.
>>738329534No, because that's cultist-chan
>>738326808I liked the Souldrinkers>obviously chaos corrupted to the point where they suffer from horrible mutations>still loyal to the Imperium anyway and perished defending it
>>738326673I just wish his motivation had been a bit more complex than >Wah wah people do not properly appreciate my genius for architecture, I hate everything, let me burn down the galaxy Outside of that he's pretty dope
>>73831813728mm plastic rounds
>>738329534Guro is a shitty fetish for retards. So no.
>>738327016Perturabo would have probably won the siege, he just abandoned it when it became obvious that Horus had abandoned all pretense and turned this into a Chaos vs. Emperor slugfest rather than Marines vs Marines
>>73831794340k is so fucking gay go play with your little toys of trannies and girl bosses in trans color scheme lgbt rainbow you fucking fag
>>738317943Kill gue'la. Behead gue'la. Roundhouse kick a gue'la into the rockcrete. Slam dunk a gue'la baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy humans. Defecate in a gue'la food. Launch gue'la into the sun. Stir fry gue'la in a wok. Toss gue'la into active volcanoes. Urinate into a gue'la plasma tank. Judo throw gue'la into a wood chipper. Twist gue'la heads off. Report gue'la to the Ethereals. Karate chop gue'la in half. Curb stomp pregnant gue'la. Trap gue'la in quicksand. Crush gue'la in the trash compactor. Liquefy gue'la in a vat of acid. Eat gue'la. Dissect gue'la. Exterminate gue'la in the gas chamber. Stomp gue'la skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate gue'la in the oven. Lobotomize gue'la. Mandatory abortions for gue'la. Grind gue'la fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown gue'la in fried ambull grease. Vaporize gue'la with a railgun. Kick old gue'la down the stairs. Feed gue'la to kroot. Slice gue'la with a katana.
>>738329534Do not recite the deep magic to me, witch. For I was there when they were written. And->>738329634he is correct.
>>738329456greekaboo aesthetic is pretty cool
>>738317943Make space for the real Everchosen of Chaos.
>>738329876Who's that speaking? Is somebody speaking?
>>738329559>not matter how tasty or abundant the biomass on surface wasDoesn’t matter how plentiful the biomass is if the hivemind knows trying to collect means it’d likely be fighting both its food and things that have weapons to disintegrate both its soldiers and the food source. It’s less about fear and more understanding that it’d be a net loss in biomass.
>>738327016Near the end of heresy Pert practically did drag Angron toward Terra by his hairs, and Lorgar bound Fulgay with his true name so yes to both?
>>738329776Mossa is a faggot for trying to appease the crowd instead of doing his thing. Ryona is the patrician fetish anyway.
>>738327383It's just really cool to imagine The Hammer of the Emperor being deployed>enough ships to darken the skies>all the landers coming down, delivering not just infantry but also all kinds of war machine, even whole prebuilt command centers>an endless horde of regular humans engaging lovecraftian space horrors, sometimes even in meleeIf they ever make a proper movie about it, that could easily be the best scene from it.It's like when the cavalry arrives to turn the tides, but ten times cooler.
>First exposure to SoB was the movie which was kind of dogshit so it left a bad taste in my mouthAnyway to fix this?
>>738329943Personally I think fantasy chaos mogs the shit out of CSM and it’s not even close.
>>738329559He wasn't scared of the nids as a fighting force, he sees them as a threat because if they consume all the biomass in the galaxy, they rob the Necrons of any chance to return to the flesh
>>738317998I love that Warhammer is now the goalpost for measuring how hard you can deepthroat a boot and not a better TTRPG/Wargame. Also, Sigmar fans, you are not safe, and you belong in the showers, too.
>>738318096It's not, leftoid trannies see the Imperium as the heckin faschist opressive dictatorship and chaostards as freedom fighters, not even kidding
>>738321718Once you have damned your soul to Chaos, the only thing you can aim for is Daemon Princedom; you can't just run and hide away or you'll just slowly go insane from the voices in your head. Of course, not many succeed where they either die or get trolled by the Chaos Gods who turn them into mindless Spawn
>>738330134SoB is just dogshit.
>>738330076>Literally being a sadistKill yourself.
>>738330134Play Soulstorm I guess?SoB historically never get much attention in the vidya. Argenta in RT and now Boltgun II I guess are the only real contemporary examples.
>>738327383Because “average dude fighting things that horribly outclass him” sounds neat to a lot of people. Nevermind the fact that there’s a lot of wiggle room for what kind of story you can have given the sheer variety of IG units. Personally I still pine away for the day Lucifer Blacks become relevant again.
Does Blacked Legion even have any real XVI OGs left, or is it all just mutts and shitters from other legions?
>>738327201There are probably rebel groups who don't turn to chaos but they get wiped out almost instantly because of how powerless they are.
>>738329941Yeah but I like them for their story in the Sabbat Crusade fighting against the Sons of Sek, also how they have a flask with water of their homeworld
>>738330204the Imperium literally is a fascist oppressive dictatorshipthat's like the whole point
>>738329060>Dawn of War writing is better than the booksMany such cases, vidya is the ultimate medium after all
>>738330343Imperium has the best slurs makes filthy aliens seethe with a 100% effectiveness.
>>738330349A few, and mostly with extra passengers in their head as I recall.
>>738330134What movie? The Sisters are cool as fuck, in my humble opinion. They're pseudo-catholic nuns in power armour with giant fuck off flamethrowers and bolters. So faithful they manifest genuine miracles on the battlefield. They're the polar opposite to any Chaos forces, manifesting their faith in tangible feats. Zealous nutters that occasionally strip down to just a few purity seals to prove their faith. What's not to love?
>>738317943I recently painted some orks and am excited for the new ones soon.
>>738327201That's just due to Chaos being a sentient corrupting force, so not knowing about Chaos makes you get tricked into it, but knowing about Chaos still makes you susceptible if you don't have enough faith/willpower/plot armor. And while most Night Lords and Iron Warriors will think daemon summoning or pledging yourself to the gods is gay, some will still give in due to the above reason.
How can we make ayy lmao factions more popular?
>>738330427Mon'keigh.
>>738329776>>738330285Troon melty
>>738330420the imperium is a feudal dogmatic empire. Every planet can be as communist, as fascist, as democratic as it wants, as long as it pays its taxes and believes in the Emperor. Fascism is a leftoid retard buzzword that does not match it in the slightest. There is no central culture or nation it tries to preserve.
>>738330554You can’t and that’s fine.Marines are GW’s bread and butter and always will be because that’s all people fucking buy. You can’t make Eldar or Nids or whatever more palatable without tearing down Marines first and GW has nothing to gain by doing that.
>>738330512he is probably referring to Adepta Sororitas: Penitence which is 3 episodes combined to seem like a movieit makes them all raging dykes who betray each other and are quick to kill other humans cause they're too weak to even consider just saving them
>>738329060Been playing through Dawn of War recently, and it's my only exposure to 40K other than Space Marine I/II. What's the difference? Are Xenos not as cool and competent in the books?
>>738330349I think Kibre is in the Black Legion, former captain of the Justaerin. I don't know if Argonis, who was the equerry during the siege, joined the Black Legion, I know that he was alive and with the Iron Warriors during the siege
>>738330157yes
>>738317998I just like fucking with the cool superpowers you get
>>738330520nice orks anon
>>738330753nta but xenos in 40k books(especially Eldar) are not allowed to win even in their own stories. They have to be perpetual jobbers to the Imperium. Eldar are the worst case of this. They got new books supposedly about them but in all of them they just lose all the time and are dumber than a servitor after a lobotomy. It' just sad.
>>738330215>>or get trolled by the Chaos Gods>that greater demon of tzeentch which got dabbed on by him and trapped in a chaos storm just because he found it funny trolling even a shard of himself
>>738330512the Sisters are a joke cult from a backwater that were used as fucktoys by Vandire and trained to dance and please him sexually
>>738330558Extinction is the elder's only destiny
>>738330554you know how, but you aren't ready to admit it.
>>738330705Oh god, if it's any recent animated shit then yeah, I can see why he's hating on the SoB. Nothing to enjoy, nothing to like, nothing to get attached to. The motto of the modern design.
>>738330558that just gets me even harder
>>738329052really, anon? you hate him over cs goto?
>>738330753They are literal fodder, act retarded or, even if it's solely about them, still have SM/Imperium presence for some reason.You know how blacks and troons tend to be inserted into every game? Imperium is like that to xeno books.
>>738330956
>>738330994at least when Goto had his eldartards riding on their mounts like mouthbreathers it was mildly amusing. He wasn't good, but he was something.Brooks is just an idealogue that wants to make everything a brown mush. He is nothing except the government opinion. He is the purest form of slop.
>>738330349Pretty much everyone of relevance in the Sons of Horus ate shit during the Saturnine Gambit and died.Even Abby should have died there, and would have if his crew hadn't force-teleported him back.
>>738330956How come Robotman can bed an Eldar harlot and I can't?
>>738330956>>738331004>YnnariName a bigger blunder
>>738317998Iron warriors are the only non lefty chaos faction because they rape women and are white
Dawn of War I is a cool snapshot of the canon from 2004-2008. Y'know, when Necron Pariahs were a thing? And Tau were relatively brand new?All it needed were the Tyranids and it would be the definitive 40K game.
>>738331167Magnus
>>738331119>Mike BrooksI only read one of his books but it was Necromunda and it was pretty good. It was a Cawdor story so pretty hard to fuck desu.
>>738331140What happened to Lil' Horus?
>>738331002I knew something didn't feel right in Winter Assault's Eldar ending: The Eldar winning anything.
>>738331249
>>738331286siege of terra
>>738330554I really hope TW40K will have the Necrons and Tau. I am tired of the Orcs and Eldar
>>738331167I have an unpainted and unassembled Yvraine. it hurts bros, it hurts. I just want the fucking space elves to get a single fucking W. If that has to come from the dick of a Primarch then give it to me raw.
>>738331220Based. They also don't suck daemon cocks and use them as batteries for their engines instead.
>>738330219>beheads abaddon>gets prank'd by the deathwatch>gets exiled for being a retardhe's alright
>>738331375exodite killteam soon
>>738331363>EldarEldar have literally a single game in the history of 40k to their name. How can you be tired of them?
>>738331140>if his crew hadn't force-teleported him back.>*bawlsÜ "send me back"Annnd you could never look at Failadon the same way again
>>738331220I love the theory their hazard stripes are rare display of humor in the legion. Either that, or they genuinely don't know what it means.
>>738331458why do you make me sad, anon. that's just mean.
>>738330219it sadly doesn't matter because eldar are doomed to job
>>738331286Gutted by Loken after falling for Dorn's bait
>>738331501Stripes.
>>738331385>the gods together put a IW warlord on their #1 hitlist due to summoning too many daemons and trapping them
>>738331385This is what tards always repeat but what actually happens they are servants of the forge of souls, the daemons they use are provided by it and the daemon in question is allowing himself to be used like that as payment to the forge.
>>738331559>Yriel comes back>He immediately jobs to Huron so the Red Corsairs get to look cool
>>738331496yeah, when I got to that part I just agreed with him and thought they should have teleported him back to his death
>>738331385>>738331585Lmao, your Primarch got turned into a Daemon and is about to get his ass beat by Ulthwe of all things.
>>738331626I expected nothing less. Eldar job to generic necron lords in their own lore so you know someone at GW really hates them.
>>738331471Yrliet gave me eldar fatigue
>>738327006It will be Vashtorr, because Perturabo will always be less than his brothers.
>>738331375just cum on her plastic toes, man
>>738331702I'm betting Ulthwe will job and get saved by the Lion of all people.
Necron game soon
>>738331626I don't even like Prince Yriel but that hurts, bro. and it's fucking likely. So fuck you, basically.
When did you realize Orks are the true endgame threat?
>>738331458No dinos. No buy.
>>738331807When the Emperor told me that in the Heresy. I now respect greenskins. I didn't before. I do now because the Emperor said so. I wouldn't otherwise.
>>738331501>>738331583What's the joke?
>>738331772Dark Crusade sufficiently rattles my bones, thank you.
>>738331702he's been a daemon prince since 3rd ed CSM codex and storm of ironn
>>738331807Orks have never stopped winning. Ork players are forever winning. In canon Orks never stop winning. People who play Orks always have a blast.Play Orks, like Orks, actually have fun in this godforsaken bullshit.
>>738331915Iron(y) Warriors
>>738331772>we explore Necron ruins in SM2>they never show upblue balled
>>738331585Name of said warlord, please?
>>738331915Stripes
>>738331915It's their cope about being just used by the Emperor at treated like just another cog in the Imperial machine. Yeah not very clever, but that's IW for you.
>>738318382>Now Huron though, now that's a warmaster i can get behindHas Blackheart even done anything relevant as of late? Last I checked he was still telling everyone to get the fuck out of his maelstrom and seething at the subsequent refusal of the nightlords.
>>738331772>plan the extermination of filthy organics>have your work ruined and delayed for 2 centuries bc Phaeron wants to watch an Opera, court attendance mandatory
>>738331954then how come orks have no good games?
>>738331987Vhostok Pistonhand
>>738332020may Huron get written by Mike Brooks so he can get fucked up the ass by a man
>>738331915they were treated as tools rather than as (semi)human beings.they are dangerousthose markings are for dangerous machinery
>>738332059Believe it or not, Dawn of War. Again. It's the best representation most of the factions get in vidya.
>>738332020not since fucking with the Crimson Hands(?) geneseed I think?
>>738331167At least the Ynnari gave us Yvraine porn.
>>738332048I want more novels with Trazyn and Orikan, kek
>>738332059Orks have a few spinoff games, at least. Slop, but they're games. And in DoW they're a pretty alright campaign.
For thousands of years Terra was divided its petty warlords vying for spremacy.An Age of Strife reigned and it was bloodThan came the EmperorThrough His will and the armies of savage Thunder Warriors did He bring order to a chaotic world His desire nothing less than the preeminence of mankindForemost amongst His soldiers were the Custodian Guard, a peerless warrior brotherhood, His generals and war leaders. The greatest of these was Constantin Valdor, their dauntless captain>Custodian Guard>a peerless warrior brotherhood>brotherhood
>>738331915That an eight foot tall killing machine in power armor would need a warning label to indicate that it’s dangerous.
>>738332187Custodes are a joke faction and their fans deserve everything bad that happens to them.They exist in 40k solely because their garbage overpriced resin sold like shit in HH.
>>738326882So if California is ruled by Slaanesh, and India by Nurgle, where are Tzeentch and Khorne?Israel. Tzeentch is in Israel. Answered my own question when I was typing it out.
>>738318771Statistically humanity will become a muted common brown color within at least 10 thousand years, especially by 41k
>>738332248Way to miss the point.
>>738332276I don't care what your point was. Custodes suck.
>>738332268The colonies the Emperor recovered were remnants of a space colony program from the 10th millennium.
>>738332268Statistically we should already be dead. Statistics are factors of probability, nothing more. Those who rely on them without understand human nature fundamentally do not understand what it means to live.
There's always that one guy who just has to seethe about Custodes
>>738332338Then why even reply? What's the point?
>>738331772Mechanicus 2 is looking like DLC. I'll still play it, it's worth it for the soundtrack alone.
>>738332370There's always that one guy who just has to nod along and agree with every change GW makes because they represent authority and people like you are scared of authority.
>>738332448I don't like Custodes and wished to insult them, I thought I made that obvious.
I think Necrons with the schizophrenic body dysmorphia virus should flay some Ultramarines and wear their meat.
>>738331774It's not 'fucking likely', it happened in the current campaign, where Yriel successfully raided Huron of some Eldar captives but took massive losses in the process.
>>738332558And what exactly is your problem with Custodes?
>>738332501>Mechanicus 2 is looking like DLCIn what way? The game plays nothing like M1.
>>738319149 When he is mostly there to fuck with Crawl's head and the OPFOR isn't worth the exhibition space, yep
>>738332253And Khorne is in Gaza. That explains a lot.
>>738332608>schizophrenic body dysmorphiaThat's every necron that has at least some mind left in the head, not just flayed schizos.
>There will never be a cross over with the Eldar and Space Marines teaming up to kill the tau, Nids, Necron or Chaos in a game.
>>738332190>boomer coffinkek
>>738332717Why would the Eldar ever hurt the Tau
>>738332697I'd extend his reign to the entire middle east. I think some part of it has always been at war.
>>738332786Cause they're cunts?
>>738317943Hopefully Peter Turbo will take over
>>738332786Because the Tau are the enemies of all.
>>738332717Now that is some heresy to wake up to in the morning
>>738332717Most craftworlds don't have the numbers to even match a SM chapter 1 to 1. You'd sooner see some eldar specialist troops and farseers supporting than a actual Eldar army.
>>738332786They industrialize maiden worlds and unlike the Imperium actually go burn the soul circuits because they don't believe in anything mystical.
>>738332856Eldar canonically have the biggest tits of all races in the Galaxy that aren't corrupted by the warp.>>738332920Craftworld and SM's need to learn to work together, cross breed and create a Space Marine Eldar, the best of both worlds.
>>738332786
>>738332786easy, better to 'help' the ape-brutes fight some cows than risk them finding a badly parked craftworld
>>738317943Wtf is this overdesigned shit? 40k used to be subtle.
>>738332667They're a boring one-note faction that's never had good lore, have exceedingly boring or mediocre models, and exist to cater to snowflakes who want the "best of the best of the best". They're just golden Marines with flowery language stapled on, like Grey Knights bit worse.Also they're boring as sin to fight on the table with an almost faction-wide 4++ and Custodian Guard who are as durable as Terminators. They almost all hit on 2+ with weapons that wound pretty much all equivalent targets on 3+ at worst. They're a skew faction pretending not to be, so most games tend to either be "You brought anti-Custodes and won or you didn't bring it and you lost" with little in between.Custodes are just a bad faction which shouldn't exist outside the Imperial Palace in the first place.
>>738332986>Eldar canonically have the biggest tits of all races in the Galaxy that aren't corrupted by the warpNOT SO FAST PANZEE
>>738332065Thanks. This guy had his daemon engine license revoked forcefully.
>>738332786Retard spess cows recruited Genestealer cultists into their Greater Good, which will call a Hive Fleet that will eat the Maiden World over in the next sector once they're done with the Tau.
>>738332268that sounds like pseudoscience, even considering if every human joins the big pile of race mixing
Why Necrons don't just use Tau as a blueprint for any would-be return to flesh project? At least it would give them some relevancy on w̶o̶r̶l̶d̶ galaxy stage.
>>738333152
Do you think a true robot/Men of Iron faction could work? Necrons are cool but they lean more into the skeleton/tomb motif than robotics, plus they're more like stripped-down souls trapped in suits rather than androids or pure AI.
>>738333152kekBlood Bowl has more soul than all other GW ips combined
>>738333236Necrons want bodies that live at least as long as Eldar ones.
>>738333260I could see them being a Votann unit
>>738332669I've only seen the trailers. It looks like the same game with a few tweaks.
>>738333260cease this techno-heresy immediately!although Cawl might just build one eventually
>>738333420You can play as Necrons who have a completely different style and goals on the battlefield.
>>738333260Maybe but I don’t think they’re visually distinct enough from existing armies to really justify an entire miniature range.
>>738333338Surely after millions of years they'd be able to alter the bodies and the genetic structure to make anyone biologically immortal, or just insert necrodermis implants that last forever lol.
>>738333260Seeing the current aborminal intelligence climate, I can only see that happening as some one-shot novel where everyone else fighting against them for slightly different reasons, not as faction. And settingwise GW seems barely capable of handling even Votanns anyway
>>738331004Rape IdiotOfTheEast
>current narrative campaign is perturabo attacking cadiaHOW IS IT STILL STANDING
>>738333559Thing is living being in 40k that don't have souls die horrible death withing years. Only blanks are partially immune to it, that's why one of the Necrons is collecting them in the Pariah Nexus.
>>738322854Fabius said primaris bore him and he doesn't care>>738319334They just got bigger naturally
>>738333593Isn't the Tabula Myriad still chilling somewhere on Mars?
>>738327272Sisters of Battle also exist to deflect female space marine complaints
Knights are cope for people who can't afford/store Titans, right?
>>738333672Cadia stands.
Guys I know how to make Eldar more popular;Eldar Dating Sim
I've been playing Rites of War recently and Eldar used to be cool.
>Imps and chaosSame shit>XenosNothing ever happens
>>738330219>eldrad finally is relevant again as he and ulthwe are moving against perturaboFunny how this happens soon after he leaves the Ynnari, good riddance
>>738331004
>>738333734>Tabula MyriadNever heard of that before. And after a quick search I am now treating your post as a reading suggestion, so thanks I guess
>>738317943abaddon has 0 personality and fuck the black legion
>>738333779Dunno, they seem extremely effective for the cost.The smaller titans also always seem to achieve more than the larger ones.You can fairly easily produce them, if you lose some it's no big loss.If your Imperator titan goes down, goodnight, you will never recover from that
>>738317998le left le right le left le right le left le right
>>738330901Thr main guy who wrote Eldar books is a known elf hater and dwarf lover. He's also not a very consistent writer either
>>738326695The entirety of America would be the eye of terror, not really any reason to try to cope that it's just localized to one state.
>>738333874Fun fact; Eldar haven't actuallly changed much visually since that game, except for some model scaling, and lore wise they basically haven't changed at all.
>Calgar inserts himself into the Armageddon campaignIt's all so tiresome
>>738333953He nearly threatened to develop one in Talon of Horus, but that looming setting crisis was quickly averted with the second book
>>738333260The Votann are men of iron
>>738333779Well that and they have their own rulebook and you get to field a whole army of mechs.With a titan you’re realistically only fielding one, and you’re not gonna have much points left with anything bigger than a warhound.Whole argument to be made about the general shittiness of resin too.
>>738334098Speaking of the smurfs, what's Cato Sicarius up to nowadays?
>>738333672It's the cadian gate, aka the systems and planets surrounding it like Agrippina and Belis corona
>>738334062Because the main model guy at GW also did the Eldar designs back in the day and has made sure to keep them faithful
>>738319202Chaos Mehrens have been the story punching bag for so long that they've lost a lot of their effectiveness as one of the primary villains. At least Orks have the excuse of being everywhere so makes sense they get beat up all the time. Most Chaos storylines should honestly be 90% of fighting Lost and Damned instead of proper CSMs if they want to keep Chaos as the constant villain behind all the evil plots. Sabbat Crusade had very little if any actual Chaos Space Marine involvement, it was all Chaos Cultist armies.
>>738334062Maybe you are right. Iyanden is cool in Rites. But pretty much irrelevant in current lore. Also the intro with the Farseer is pure KINO he looks like they recreated his metal model 1 to 1. Also he has cool lines>WEAR THE MANTLE OF IYANDEN SO HE KNOW WHO YOU SERVE!!Cool shit. Miss this kind of SOVL.
>>738317943>Actually I am using Chaos as a tool!>t. every chaos controlled puppet
>>738334159He's the head of the Victrix Guard now, Titus has pretty much eclipsed him entirely.
>Titan Princeps simulator>It's a VR exclusiveWould you play?
>>738334159He lost his job as second captain to Titus and is now head of the victrix guard, the blueberry honor guard
>>738333305Strongest god too.
>>738334239This may be an odd thing to learn anon, but it's much better for a faction to NOT be involved in whatever the current narrative is in 40k.People in here have mentioned Ulthwe, AdMech, and Imperial Fists going after Perturabo but the truth is none of that matters and they're all going to lose so GW can shill Perturabo's big new model, and then quickly after that Leman Russ is going to return and beat Perturabo in turn so HIS model can get shilled.Modern 40k is just a big drama about Primarchs.
>>738327006That was only ever an ADB pet theory
>>738334303>lost his job as second captain to TitusYou mean gave Titus his old spot back. Titus was always the second company captain despite the lore never mentioning it.
>>738334098GW's favorite color
>>738333107>>738333107>They're a skew faction pretending not to beBadly, I'd add. Remember when they had a Fights First button that made them unassailable, and when GW took it away they whined?
>>738330554What makes you think I want my spesh elves to be more popular than they already are? The last type of subhumans I want in the eldar fanbase are these sorts of retards>>738330558
>>738334303>He lost his job as second captain to TitusHe actually lost it to Acheran after going MIA for a bit, then got the Victrix job upon his return.Rhen Acheran died and Titus got re-promoted.
>>738334262I would take bets about how quickly I'll go back to Tukayyid instead, but I do admit to some mild interest
Reminder that Leman Russ ignored a direct order from the Emperor, followed Horus after he went traitor and attacked a loyalist Legion handing them over to Chaos and dooming the Imperium. Around furries never relax.
>>738334439>The last type of subhumans I want in the eldar fanbase are these sorts of retardsAre you at least the guy with the purple models? I want to know before I decide on if I should insult you.
>>738334393Would be cool if they would mix it up a bit and have a story from a perspective of a Chaos cultist in some barbarian land and it gets invaded by Tyranids. Doesn't even have to be a standard hero story, just a story of some dude who rises up the ranks to become a proper Chaos Champion by surviving a Tyranid invasion and being sent to fight elsewhere after Tyranids eat his barbarian home planet.
>>738332786Generally speaking the Craftworld Eldar don't fight with the tau that often. The few instances in the lore mostly involve either Tau trying to colonize maiden worlds or the Tau mistaking Craftworlders for Dark Eldar after the Dark Eldar did the whole cultural exchange trolling on the Tau.Out of all the factions within the setting lorewise the Tau and the Craftworld Eldar have among the least reasons to ever fight each other but as the setting is still built around a wargame, there of course is some excuses to pit them against one another.
>>738334513False narrative. Magnus could have returned to the Loyalist side at any time. Even at the last minutes of the siege he was again given a opportunity to renounce chaos but he didn't.
>>738334404Weren't there like two captains between them
>Aliens need vidya to get anything fun or interesting
>>738334262yes, sounds pretty kino
>>738334619That doesn't disprove anything I wrote.
>>738334062You don't need to change perfection. Jes Goodwin's designs for the Eldar are evergreen gemmies that are easily the best looking models in all of 40k
>>738334393Thing is, Iyanden in Rites of War isn't flandarized yet into a wraithboner club like in the current lore. It's still a functioning craftworld with a capable military.
>>738332786Tau's "Greater Good" is hinted at being both a brainwashing and eugenics program, which doesn't sit well with Eldar. Also Tau have the habit of researching all technology they manage to capture, another thing that Eldar despise because Tau gaining access to Webway gates would be a direct threat against Craftworlds. So the moment the noseless mudokon scientists get too nosy poking around Eldar ruins, you have an excuse for a skirmish or even open war.
>>738334558Yes?
>>738334678It's not such a bad fate. Imagine if interesting things only happened to Xenos in publicity blurbs and blogposts.
Reminder that 40k space dwarves and elves are actually pretty chill with each other
it's a good thing everyone here are secondaries, otherwise you'd all be disappointed with how woke 40k has become.you can easily just stop buying and playing new 40k games, but not for 40k tabletop players.No, those guys are being held hostage by sunk cost fallacy.
>>738334776Nice transitions bro. Hand blended or airbrushed?
>>738334776thanks doc
>>738334806I unironically kind of like the way GW implemented the whole "space dwarf" idea with the Leagues of Votan that avoided the retardation of the OG squats and also didn't end up being just wholesale fantasy dwarves being lifted into space which would have been really lame.The Leagues have enough dwarfy elements to kind of fit the niche of "space" dwarves without being outright silly about it. Though I kind of suspect that GW just used deep rock galactic as inspiration for them lel.
>>738334806>Reminder that 40k space dwarvesSomething that GW needs. Just kidding they should squat them again.
>>738334619I mean, the last offer he received was "kill your whole legion, we will give you a new one", which he understandably wasn't too happy about
most based faction
>>738327006Lorgar is also undivided
>>738334873>3D print minis>pirate rulebook pdf >never give GW a dime
>>738334962At that point 1% of his legion consumed the souls of the other 99% turning them into mindless automatons. Magnus was retarded to stand by these devils.
>>738334262>Titan princess>Would you playNo, I'm not into giantess shit
>>738317998Actually you are wrong and gay. Lefties like xenos while normalfags like Imperium.
>>738334873Just do what you should do for every franchise these days: play/watch/read the old stuff, ignore the new abortions they put out. As for the tabletop, this: >>738335029
>>738334662Ultrasmurf 2nd company captains:>Agemman (promoted to 1st company)>Trajan (died due to Leandros' fuckup)>Titus (imprisoned by the Inquisition due to Leandros)>Sicarius (lost in the warp, later found and promoted to Victrix Guard captain)>Acheran (jobbed to a Genestealer cult alongside Chairon)>Titus (incumbent)
>>738335136Leandros is the strongest smurf hater in the galaxy.
>>738334891A bit of both actually, larger areas I did with an airbrush whereas smaller stuff I just did with regular brushes and blending techniques.>>738334929Tbh I am not happy with the color scheme, I havn't been for years. It feels like it lacks something and part of me kind of wishes to start over with some other scheme but I have a bit of sunk cost thing going on especially due to the wraithknight and Avatar.
Eldar thots are built for big Space Marine Cock.
>>738335043pretty sure the rubric came after the offer. that offer should have been during the siege of terra, and I think the rubric only happened after magnus had already ascended but maybe I am mixing things up
>>738335136>Acheran (jobbed to a Genestealer cult alongside Chairon)literally the greatest victory of the genestealer cults
Where my IW bros at?
>>738335237It should have been Gadriel desu
>>738335237>right handOh you motherfucker
>>738317998Chaos are trad aryans. Imperium cucks are fedora wearing faggots and xenofags are trannies and gooners.
>>738335304
>>738335246IWs are the Stroggs of W40K.
>>738335293Sorry, Titus' command team only has room for 1 token nig
>>738335246I like them but they are insanely overrated and misunderstood by their fans. Much like the Night Lords everyone misinterprets them as being against Chaos.
>>738335228No, your timing is correct.Rubic wasn't even yet a thought for Ahriman during the siege, he was stealing sigilite books in expectation of Horus winning and fucking his every ally over when he found out about the whole Dark King bullshit
>>738334873let's be honest, nearly every tabletop wargame worthy of note is woke.Battletech, Infinity, Trench Crusade, etc all are woke.the only ones that aren't woke are historicals like WW2 and Civil War shit.
>>738335416>as being against Chaos.Literally how can you come to this conclusion?
>>738335393But it can have two women?
>>738335447>Trench Crusadehow did that one get turned woke? it seemed like WW1 with demons and ultra-zealous Catholics
>>738335481Or rather I should say that they think they are not corrupted by Chaos. Basically they think of them as the fedoras of the traitor legions.
>>738335524They included Protestants and ruined everything
>>738335237This is really fuckin funny to me. They could have lost to anything but they lost to the assholes with power tools and mining equipment. And a faction that exists just so they can be eaten at that.
>>738335481Because they have like two relevant stories centred on them and both have Edgelord protags who hate chaos
>>738335524Written by atheist redditors who made the demons misunderstood and complex. An awfully brave and stunning subversion, I know.
>>738335524They tried to say 'Well both sides are bad actually' when one side is trying to stop actual demons from actual hell from rapemurdering the world and the other side are horrible rape demons from hell trying to murder rape the world. They seriously think they set up a gray versus gray conflict.Just as a reminder in order to become a supersoldier for hell you have to get close to a hell gate in the setting and only the most terrible foul, rapacious individuals can get close to one without melting.
>>738334776Then I will simply disagree with your notion, as you're a respectable person who does actually partake in the hobby. All of the factions at this point have some degree of flanderization and 'softening' in public media, primarily through memes. Trying to be uptight about it with Eldar simply enforces an already substantial public view that Eldar aren't fun or interesting. As crude as it is to say, the Eldar could use more "positive" memes, otherwise we'll be stuck with the Yvraine/Guilliman stuff and little else.And honestly I only used Yrliet due to having found the art recently, her actual character sucks.
>>738335524the setting with actual, unironic hell being a thing and people fighting for it wearing the cadavers of literal babies as talismans is actually morally grey, ok chud
>>738335703Coolest Eldar model stuck in the worst faction.
>>738335782y face on his kneepad and shoulder
HAIL THE PRIMORDIAL ANNIHILATOR
>>738326587Mr. Blackheart is helping me find my honor.
>>738335693what were they thinking
>>738335693That just sounds like 40k.
>>738335858Not muchI still like it for the art. It was always pretty much the only thing carrying it.>>73833589540k gets a pass because it didn't start as a grimdark bullshit setting that you're supposed to take seriously.
>>738335782I have one that I did up as a crummy Asurmen proxy before getting another alongisde the rest of Triumvirate as a paint project, thinking maybe I'd warm up to the Ynnari.As it turns out the Yncarne fucking sucks to paint and made me back off the sub-faction entirely.
>>738335895Not really. For how bad the Imperium is Chaos and most xenos are definitely much worse.
>>738335858realistically? I don't even know.Lots of people think that evil factions are cool and I personally think a truly evil faction has merit. They can try to 'Actually the people trying to save the world are just as bad as the the other guys' but the other guys are fuckin babies and doing the blackest hearted shit you can think of.
>>73833589540k doesn't try to pretend Chaos is just as morally gray as the imperium is. Like for all the awful shit that the imperium does, Chaos is described as worse.
>>738335703I actually meant to link my initial post to this >>738330956 rather than the spoilered yrliet picture but apparently I dun goofed There is nothing wrong with that piece of Yrliet art, my distain was towards the retarded racemixing ship faggotry. In my experience, it isn't the eldar fans that make human x eldar fanwank artwork.
>>738335524>how did that one get turned woke?It didn't, the anon is just shitposting. Hell factions are still the baddies. Human factions have just become more brutal over centuries of endless war. The way they made resurrection more grimdark was the resurrected saints not regenerating their bodies, so the most holy humans look like walking corpses that have gone through autopsy.Only reason hell has multiple factions is so they can also fight each other.
>>738335815His armor is multiple Eldar mashed together.
>>738317943How do they fix CSM? Abaddon and the Black Legion are awful. Maybe that's why they seem to be pivoting more towards Iron Warriors, Red Corsairs and soon enough Word Bearers.
>>738335975>most xenos are definitely much worse.>Grey Knights murdering thousands upon thousands of good and innocent people to equip a single member with enough gear for a single fight
>>738336114You can't.Seriously.
Can you give crons some other color for Gauss and other energies or is it always green?
>Eldar when they see a Jokaero
>>73833589540k started as satire and slowly started to be played straight.so any nuance or satirical intent has been completely lost.
>>738336141>that short story about how they consecrate a bolt for a Grey Knight and what goes into it, all with human sacrifice of an innocent child>ends with the bolt being used to blow up some random cultist
The Tau are worse than Chaos
>>738336080Well to be fair I still think Eldar women are hot and that's probably one of the significant reasons I got into them as a faction, but yes the Yvraine/Guilliman shit does suck. Even worse is that after listening to Hand Of Darkness it disgusts me to say the meme version of Yvraine is somehow better than the real thing.
>>738336141Orks and Tyranids and Dark Eldar are much fucking worse than anything the Gay Knights have done.
>>738336249500,000 dollar missiles are used to hunt down 50 000 dollar drones in Ukraine and now Iran so that checks out.
>>738336154They color both by 'noble house' holding their reigns and by where there were sleeping the millennia away, go wild. I'd only stick with the normal coloring for triarchs if I wasn't a filthy secondary
>>738336249Why do those dickheads get a pass? One Ultrasmurf marine can do what they do and probably even better
>>738335975>>738336065>40k doesn't try to pretend Chaos is just as morally gray as the imperium is.GW does
>>738336154Just stick to green. Don't be a faggot and colour them pink or something.
>>738331167Primaris Marines...and that's just the tip of the iceberg GW did post 7th ED.
>>738336435If they didn't exist the funniest Dark Angles book wouldn't be written.
>>738336435IIRC, all of them are psykers and none of them have ever fallen to chaos.
>>738336459What? No they don't. The setting is at the absolute peak of Imperium dickriding.
>>738336302Yvraine was always a terribly written mary sue but I dont' see how making her into a retarded raceplay fetish bait in the memes in any way improves her character. Generally what annoys me the most about the Ynnari is that the core idea of an Eldar death cult trying to speed up the birth of Ynnead and coming of Rhana Dandra is metal as fuck, but the execution of it was so god damn terrible that it propably soured the idea.
>>738336273Tau are a nothingburger the faction. Even here all you see is just explicit images, nothing more. No models, no lore and no gameplay
>>738336459Only ADB really
>>738335524the devs/mos are woke.When GW said that Nazis aren't welcome in the 40k fanbase, a whole bunch of 40k chuds tried to migrate to Trench Crusade as a redpilled alternative to 40k.But the mods/devs of Trench Crusade nipped that in the bud and said that Nazis also aren't welcome in the Trench Crusade fandom as well.
>>738336273They are gunpla for wealthy people with tiny hands.
>>738336435Because it's le grimderp
>>738336548Until they see a random "chud" on twitter with 2 followers say he likes Warhammer and they bust out the "actually the Imperium are the bad guys".
>>738336529Barely even canon at this point besides a small mention back in one of the Cadia books.
>>738332664God i despise GW for their eldar lore so fucking much.Also why call them Aeldari why not just call them Asuryani like the eldar call themselves in lore?I find Asuryani to be such a better name than fucking Aeldari
Here's my pitch to ruin your dayADB - Eldar book
>>738336529Uhhh literally who?
>>738336504Which book is this?
>>738336713Pandorax
>>738336529furfags btfo
>>738336709Slaanesh, is this true?
>>738334956>Though I kind of suspect that GW just used deep rock galactic as inspiration for them lel.OG Squats were Deep Rock Galactic before DRG was a thing.Votann feel horribly castrated and looking more like Terrans from StarCraft...but dwarfs in space.
>>738336463Tell that to the sourcebooks
>>738336789Yeah that's fine. I just hate it when someone goes out of their way to pick a "unique" colour scheme for their minis and it ends up looking like faggot ass shit.
>>738336529Malal/Malice is barely canon
>>738336554>but I dont' see how making her into a retarded raceplay fetish bait in the memes in any way improves her character.In the drama she was a miserable antagonistic cunt who wasn't even respected by her own followers because all she did was complain all the time. Eldrad specifically had to goad her into getting involved since she was originally not planning on going, even though she was doing literally nothing else besides twiddling her thumbs. She was abhorrently unlikeable with no redeeming qualities or positive character traits. The memes being barely comparable to her actual character somehow BENEFITS her.That said Idiot Of The East should be beaten with a rusted rake, LewdAnon makes far better art.
>>738336770Yeah, because Deep Rock Galactic has so many zaamurets in it.
>>738336692>Also why call them Aeldari why not just call them Asuryani like the eldar call themselves in lore?Because the Aeldari Codex also includes the Harlequins, Corsairs, and Ynnari.Otherwise yeah they'd just be called the Asuryani.
Daemon girls owe me sex
>>738336789Necron lives matter.
>>738336154go with white skellies and red gauss
>>738336154it’s your dudes and you can paint them however you want
>>738337071Very inclusive. I'm sure Xir Zaxerex will provide full transition therapy for his warriors when they get new bodies.
In the name of the Warp I will punish you!
>>738336859Where do you draw the line? Most factions sport garish neon colors in-universe.
>>738336770I don't have any issues with the looks of the Leagues of Votan. The only models in their range I dislike are the berserker miner models because I find them ugly as sin. The basic troopers of the Leagues are imo their best looking models.They look like lil astronauts/terran marines, and to me that is a plus.
>>738336435>Personal chamber militant of the most loony InquisitorsAnd that is where any complains suddenly go very very silent. Hell, some Grey Knight brass is srsly telling off Guilliman for a fuck up in one dark imperium book
>>738337071>Race of beings forever trapped in an immutable metal body that had their compassion and Necron-manity eaten by manipulative groomer star-gods, forever marching onward towards an agenda outside their controlThey really know how to choose their mascots.
>>738336554>but the execution of it wasThe execution was ruined by GW's change in leadership and direction, where they decided that they weren't going to be killing off slaanesh in the name of family friendliness and marketshare
>>738326013the fuck does this represent?
>>738326391The novels and setting development are fucking bad enough as it is, imagine them being tailored toward the avg. MMO crowds feedback to boot
>>738337582The new AoS Nurgle models are making me act unwise.
Silent King dindu nuffin. You'd also pick immortality.
>>738337071>picking the faction that was tricked by malicious entities into going through full body surgery that they deeply regret as your troon mascotkek
>>738337582uh ohSTINKY
>>738337582https://youtu.be/n05UqmOvISA
>>738337653SZAREKH YOU COWARDLY WRETCH, I AM COMING FOR YOU AND THOSE PISSANT DYNASTIES THAT COWER BEHIND YOU KNOWING THAT THEIR TIME IS RUNNING OUTTHE STORM APPROACHES, BETRAYER KING
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>>738337728Is it shitting out nurglings?
>>738337886Yes. Where do you think they come from?
>>738337653I would, and I wouldn't bitch about it as much as they did.Objectively, even the fucked up state they are in right now is still better (at least for the upper echelons that got to keep their mind) than the walking skin cancers they were before.
Oh, just rememberedIf the anon who linked me the Traitor guard audio story some weeks ago should be present: Cool shit, thanks!
>>738337956link it bro I want to listen too.
>>738337886Yea? it's cool as fuck you fag. I wish I was a GUO
>>738337986youtube.com/watch?v=qUV0ZCd7xvA
>>738338053Thanks!
>>738337927You still have to deal with the fact that you are bound by organic instinct like breathing and aversion to pain and death.
>>738338114They are right to be afraid of death since Necrons can still die.
>>738338114You can unlearn instincts, they had thousands of years to do itSkill issue
>>738338114Can they even feel pain?And I think after some time you'd get used to just not breathing.I got kicked in the dick as a child and for the last 20 years, whenever I took a piss it hurts, but I barely even realize it anymore. You just get used to it eventually.
>>738337987>Daily routine of a GUO is just the opening scene of Shrek
>>738338243No, but you think that you should experience certain things>His skin was touching nothing as he sank. The baroreceptors searching for his blood pressure found only the searing touch of radioactive gas. His stomach had been empty for aeons, and was burning with the sure knowledge he had starved ten thousand times over. His heart was not beating. His blood had gone still, and his organs were failing, cells dying by the billion as they choked on their own waste. He could feel the brain he did not have, desperately begging for oxygen as its tissues began to blacken. His phantom lungs were flat and stiff as leather discs inside his chest, and they would not inflate. He needed to breathe. He needed to. Or he was going to die. He clawed at his own throat, desperate to clear the obstruction, but there was nothing there but solid metal. His hard fingers scrabbled against his face, but there was no mouth, no nostrils – his whole form was solid and sealed, with no way to inhale. None of his phantom parts could do anything to save themselves, but neither could they collapse, because they did not exist. They would be trapped here forever, in the lurid, blinding urgency at death’s edge.
>>738338402the c'than really dabbed on themsurely none of that was necessary
>>738338402Like the anon said, there's no reason why they wouldn't get used to this and forget about it as background noise after a few years, maybe decadesThey received the input, but they failed to become masters of the output
>>738338527Lol said the The Deceiver, lmao even
>>738338243Not the pleb masses, they got stuck in a silicon doll equivalent, not the "I sense injuries. You could call this data pain" package.But most councious Necrons actually get scared about feeling sensations because they jump to the assumption its the onset of flayer curse
>>738338635Fuck off back to the tanks, Sheng
>>738338402>He needed to breathe. He needed to.Sound fucking horrifying.Can't they just make new bodies that simply emulate these basic instincts?
Reminder before the thread dies.Cast off your shackles and join the Greater Good.
>>738338751>Sound fucking horrifyingDo not read the HH story where the mechanicum creates some troopleader during the siege
>>738338402and yet the mechanicus doesn't seem to suffer these issues
>>738338889I must have read it since I read all of them, but nothing springs to mind
>>738338889It certainly must be fucking brutal and painful. The mechanicum are fucking retards.
>>738338854>It is too late, Gue'la. I have depicted your Emperor and his leaders as soi-faced caricatures and myself as a demure, sagely leader.
>>738338854No thanks I'm straight
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