Which way dragonborn?
>jewish puppetOR>doomed failstatea curious game, the only winning move is not to play
Are you proud of being such a fat dumb addicts that they actually made this boring airport of a game and claim it's the best RPG of the generation
>>738318531Stormcloak is the Canonical choice, so i pick it everytime now, even tho i prefer the imperial vibe
>>738319612The fun part is figuring out who is the puppet and who is the failed state (both are both)
>>738319732It is the best rpg of all time , i dare you to name a better one besides morrowind
I don't think I've ever actually finished the Civil War questline. I just don't give a shit.
If you pick the imperials for any reason other than "I've never seen what happens if you do" then I'm cautious to be around you for fear of contracting HIV.
>>738319940Its best if fone after the main quest where you have both factions sit and negociate a truce, you can do funny shit like giving half of skyrim to the empire, only to take those forts and citys back in the new stormcloak missions for those forts and citys you traded to the empire, effectively doubleing the number of battles you do.
>>738319940yep you have to stick your nose in it and I literally didn't care.
How are there people in 2026 that havent platinumed skyrim? It only takes like 200 hours maybe 300 max
>>738318531the imperials tried to kill you no sane person would join them unless you're a spineless npc
>>738320283Because I don't care to. I've never finished the main story either. I usually start the game, do some dungeons, visit Whiterun, do the College at Winterhold questline, then eventually get bored and stop.
>>738319532Everyone hates israel now except boomers who only watch TV where information is tightly controlled
>>738320383Maybe commit so you can cross it off and never thave to touch it again? Theres other rpgs to play
>>738318531Empire.Without Skyrim there's even less of a chance to take down the Aldmeri Dominion, the high *lves only stand to gain from a divided Empire.Further, nords are a barely civilized folk who will only destroy themselves with infighting. They're possibly Tamriel's strongest fighters but their prowess is wasted if not commandeered by a greater entity. Like niggers they are incapable of governing themselves. Your move, nord niggers: Empire or Dominion. Sure you could catch a whiff of freedom with the Empire gone but it's only a matter of time before the Dominion comes knocking, and by then you will have no allies to turn to. Who are you gonna call? The orsimer? The redguards? The dark elves? lol. Don't fool yourselves, you need the Empire, and the Empire needs you, admittedly
>>738320487It's not on my bucket list. It's no skin off my back if it remains incomplete.
>>738320537You must be really busy irl
>>738320679No, not really. Like I said, I just don't give a shit.
>>738320760Its fun, i hope you change ur mind :D
>>738319532What the fuck this has to do with the thread
>>738318531Didnt someone make a thread yesterday talking about how if you side with ralof its kike some kind of cosmic prophecy being fulfilled when he unbinda your hands in the tower or somthing.
>>738318531IMPORTANT POLL>who did you pick stormcloaks or empire>who do you support russia or ukraine
>have been "gathering their strength" for 26 years>nothing to show for it>the Dominion has grown stronger than they have in that time, and the Dominion already beat their asses in the first warAnd that's not even to mention>the Empire willingly sold out their protector deity>the deity that is explicitly a defender of mankind>in a setting in which the gods ACTIVELY aid their subjects against threats>in a setting where there is a giant petrified dragon in the Imperial City as a symbol of the last time the gods intervened to protect their faithful>in a setting where history is filled with examples of the gods sending down warrior avatars to fight for humanity against oppressors, including elves>in a setting where this happens so often THERE IS A FUCKING NAME FOR IT HAPPENINGThe Empire wasn't playing some long game of buying time. That's pure cope. They were desperately trying to save their own skins by selling out Talos and all of their subjects. If they had any sort of sense or thought of long-term planning, the Emperor would have just immediately proclaimed faith in Talos the second the Dominion demanded they renounce him in the treaty. As reward, a Shezzarine probably would have appeared to make Pelinal look like a fucking joke.
>>738320826Oh don't worry, it won't change, and I also find a majority of the stuff in the game rather unfun, actually. I played what I liked and was done with it.
>>738318531Whichever side I didn't side with last time
>>738318531Ponder deez orbs!Both!
>>738318531I quit before I had to make the choice(had 150 hours already and was tired of killing draugrs).
>>738320875Nothing its just interesting
>>738318531Stormcloaks are faggot elf assets. They're too dumb to know they're pawns being led by an even bigger retard.Glory to the Empire!
>>738321023You say that...
>>738321136Yes, that is something I said. What of it?
Stormcloak is the only way that makes sense, ulfric becomes high king of skyrim with your help, then the dragonborn with king ulfrics nord army at his back van push south into the imperial city and put the dragonborn on the ruby throne, in the wake of Titus Mede II assassination
>>738321279What if I don't want to be the new Emperor?
>>738321187>he thinks he will never play skyrim again
>>738321279>in the wake of Titus Mede II assassinationI always forget about this, probably because I only ever did the Dark Brotherhood once. Peak Bethesda writing and game design, you can kill the Emperor and literally nothing changes.
>>738318531I play an imperial loyalist StormcloakSkyrim belongs to the Nords, and the Empire is a Nordic institution, therefore it is only just and right that I, as a Nord and Dragonborn, bring the Empire to the fulness of its glory by conquering its subversive and elf-aligned elements at the same time as defeating Alduin to serve the divine Akatosh
>>738321339You dont have a choice, you're the last dragonborn
>>738321398This ties i to what >>738321397 saidBasically in that timeline the empire is restored to being a nordic run institute
>>738321095Legendary cope
>>738321379The last time I played Skyrim was over a decade ago. The next Elder Scrolls game I will play will be 6. And if that never comes out then I'll just never play another Elder Scrolls game. Ball's in your court, Todd.
>>738321569He'll come to you on your deathbed and make you play it and the dlcs
>>738321437Just like I didn't have a choice whether to kill Paarthunax or not, right?Sorry, but no. As a Dragonborn, I will do only what I want.
>>738318531Do I get an orc legionnairy gf if I side with the empire?
>be me>Nord>want to return to Skyrim>a bunch of Imperials arrest me for crossung the borderWhat was their problem and why would I join these people after they tried to have me executed?
>>738321647I'll make sure to keep a special consecrated vacuum on hand in case any Bethesda ghosts appear that need an exorcism.
>>738321663There is no choice with Paarthurnax, he is a terrible and evil entity that deserved death, whats actually an oversight is that for some reason we arent told to slay Odahviing? Thats the real mystery
>>738321787Why are u in this thread then, are a lorefag or somthing?
>>738321841This, i thought we were supposed to be a dragonslayer not a dragon hugging hippie
>>738321841>There is no choice with Paarthurnax, he is a terrible and evil entity that deserved deathThere is always a choice. I can choose to end the Blades instead, and declare THEM as evil.
>>738319532>how can people separate reality from fiction
>>738322098This is just leftist tranny talk>fight the opressor! Fight for the underdogEven tho the underdog would destroy civilization if you looked away dor 2 secondsKill yourself irl i mean that
>>738322087The Dragonborn is a mortal born with the soul of a dragon. You're not a dragonslayer, you're an independent force who can choose who and what you align with, and what you oppose. Fickleness and greed are the nature of dragons.
>>738322272So dragons are jewsish, got it. Time for them to go i reckon
>>738322217>fight the opressor! Fight for the underdogExcept that's precisely the argument the blades makePaarthurnax is guilty of heckin past oppresion and his existence is a heckin microaggression
>>738318531Neither. I avoided that questline to ensure some of the female Jarls stay in power so I can properly feel like I'm fucking royalty. :3
>>738322217Go back to /pol/, you politics-brainrotted retard. When was I ever under the obligation to give an iota of a fuck about civilization in Tamriel? You can spend your time in Skyrim killing the primary population: bandits. You can kill every Thalmor procession you come across, and then their prisoner. You can also completely ignore them because it's not your problem. If I kill the Emperor and it sends the Empire into disarrayIdonotgiveafuck.It's NOT my problem. Deal with it.
I would do Stormcloak but exiling Balgruuf feels wrong.
>>738322474>anon would forgive stalin if he was nice to themYea u dont deserve to be in a rulers shoes ever, even as a drsgonborn you play a weak cuck
>>738322532>IM A LORELET!!!okay okay... relax...
>>738318531Picking a side and ending the war is the correct choice. It doesn't even matter which side because an independent Skyrim would still 1000% team up with the Empire in a war with the Aldmeri Dominion.
>>738322272What is a soul? Maybe, a long term identity in a robot, artificial intelligence program useful enough for psionics to become magicka? This...identity is diffirent from men whom would be Dragonborn...but are not destined, in fate, for a life healthy, and safe enough, to then be called man?Is Dragonborn just man, but actually the last man among men?
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>>738322586>even as a drsgonborn you play a weak cuckYou literally obey to a ugly hag and betray a friend who helped youYou are no man at all, you are a weak pussywhipped faggot
>>738322956You just want a dragon buddy, you arent even considering the repurcussions of letting an immortal dragon with a history of human genociode live
>>738322638>IM A LORELET!!!Nice try, retard. But no. Maybe if the Empire didn't want the Towers to fall, they'd do a better job of protecting them. Or completely genocide the Aldmeri Dominion. Maybe Ulric should get off his ass and shout some fucking elves to death.You know what I did when I got Azura's star? I turned it into the Black Star. Because it's MINE. As the Dragonborn, my obligation is to my own whims and nothing else.
>>738322685No it matters because picking empire = deep state boomer centralization tranny woke ukraine flag bumper sticker normie retard and picking stormcloak = based trad alt right freedom fighting racist gamer
>>738323058>you arent even considering the repurcussions>NOOO THE COLLECTIVE OF "THE PEOPLE" WON'T APPRECIATE YOUR ACTIONS YOU NEED TO STOP HANGING OUT WITH YOUR DRAGON BUDDY NOOOOWW THE LONGHOUSE DEMANDS ITAway with you, commie hag, dragon hitler is my friend
the urge to download the latest mod collection for skyrim and do another playthrough is becoming more and more present again... i am not sure if i can resist much longer....
>>738323163Im wayy more racist than u, dont call me a commie you stalin lover.
>>738323204Mods are gay, play vanilla
>>738323163>anon supports anti-human genocide
>>738319532I went imperial and i've hated isreal since 2008 (Micheal Jackson's death sent me down a Wikipedia rabbit hole cause I didn't know who he was and wanted to know why he was so important to people)
Guys, the empire will destroy the aldmeri dominion in two more weeks, just keep letting Thalmor abduct your family for worshipping Talos, trust the plan guys.What? Hammerfell was able to free themselves from Elvish Occupation without the Empire's help? That's just fake news, we need a United Empire to fight the Elves.
>>738323385>>738323250The dragonborn has a dragon soul, dragon genocide would be commie leftist self hating whites.
>>738323204Just play mass effect, i find it satisfies the same urge
>>738323512Dragons burn villages and eat people
>>738318531I don't care about SkyrimI don't care about this fourth age nonsense, in fact. By far the blandest and most boring period yet. We've gone from existential threats to a nothingburger civil war in an inconsequential shithole
>>738323512The dragon girls aint gonna fuck u bro...
>>738323432Yeah just let divide et impera play out, there's no way this ends poorly
>>738323570>peopleIf they can't shout they are subhumans
>>738323737>the people that get mugged by niggers probobly are racists anyway
>>738318531Ralof is my nigguh
>>738323798>probobly are racistsI'm the racist hereI'm telling you those are not people
>>738324087Dragons arent people either desu
>>738324087Human lives matter more than dragon lives any other opinion is anti-human anti-talos and anti-shor
>>738320524You don't look smarter when posting normiegenlion, faggottldr yoy tranny
>>738324345>Human lives matterHere he goesShut the fuck up, liberal
>>738318531You have to play a cuck to join the imperials. Doesn't even matter who you think is better for Tamriel, the story framing is such that it's impossible for anyone with self-respect to join them. You're natural enemies after they try to unjustly execute you.
>>738318531Childhood is soiperiumAdulthood is Chadcloaks
>>738324550Dragons are litterally the niggers of skyrim, they are a huge nuisance to the nordic way of life.
>>738325035>Built an empire enslaving the nords>worshipped as gods>only defeated because of a self hating dragonLiterally aryans
>>738324647And Stormcloaks will attack you if you wander to one of their occupied forts, even if you haven't aligned with the Imperials. They're your natural enemies too. It's I don't like the Civil War questline. Side with the Imperials and Maven Black-Briar becomes Jarl of The Rift. Side with the Stormcloaks and Balgruuf gets deposed from Whiterun. There's no winning.
>>738323990I always escape with Ralof and side with the imperials later I visit him in Riverwood after the war is done and ask for his forgive me for killing his king, and i put my life in his hands, like Priam visiting Achilles
>>738319837At least the Bretons and Redguards are free.
>>738325172The dragonborn is shown defending stormcloak held windhelm in this trailer, and thats always been my reasoning for why he was probobly pro stormcloak, just based on official trailers and arthttps://youtu.be/w1AenlOEXao?si=6lFn6qJ8AhDun5s2
>>738325172Maven Black-Briar is already the de-facto power in the rift, her becoming Jarl changes nothingThe guy that replaces Balgruuf is a legit retard
>>738318531I only went imperial once for the sake of my imperial character. Otherwise those lazy tards can fuck righ off
>>738321279Ulric would never willingly let the dragonborn become emperor
>>738325625Why not?
>>738325809he killed the king that would have joined him just to play king himself
It's weird that even with the Special and Anniversary edition they didn't tweak the Civil War questline to include more skirmish and large battles.
>>738321059All the women of Tamriel crave BNC. It would only be rude of them to not give it out.
>>738326435But Ulfric killied torygg so he could become high king of skyrim, the dragonborn being emperor and reinstating talos worship across the empire, including skyrim, is exactly what ulfric wants no?
>>738319532YES
>>738321780>return to SkyrimWasn't the player character trying to escape skyrim? I thought he wanted to run away from the civil war from the fear of getting killed or getting drafted to either side. It doesn't make sense to me otherwise.
>>738327163He was trying to cross the south border INTO SKYRIMIncase you forgot, Hadvar litterally says >"You picked a bad time to come home to your homeland, kinsman"
>>738327382This makes me think that the dragonborn must have been going to skyrim to join Ulfric. As a nord he would be a talos worshipper so that would fit.
>>738321841Partysnax never wronged me and isn't a threat to me or anyone.>But he MIGHT at some point in the futureSo could every man, some of which could turn out to be quite powerful. Not my problem.
>>738326654he killed possible ally to gain more personal power, despite the fact that keeping him alive was the better choice that would bring him closer to his stated goal not to mention that he is talmor plant
>>738328012Its about his past, he Has ended too many nord lives
>>738320459>Everyone hates israel nowwhy do you people blatantly lie like this lmao
>>738318531Classic nord's nord dragonborn? Stormcloak, obviously. All of the other fake non-canon immigrant dragonborns that were inexplicably born with Nordic shouting in a different province? Imperial. The option that will be the default in ES6? Neutral, peace treaty, no side selected.
>>738328078If he pushes the empire out of skyrim and puts an nordic emperor on the throne he would no longer be a thalmor asset but rather a major threat
>>738319892Oblivion is much better
>>738328247No beards
If you know any true sons or daughters of Skyrim, tell them to head to Windhelm. Ulfric Stormcloak wants to see them.
>>738328078Holy retard.
>>738328247You spelled Morrowind wrong
>>738318531Imperials have better armor. Imperials.
>>738328846Based orc player
>>738328143>shows a picture of two boomersyes kike we ALL hate isreal now
>>738318531SKYRIM IS FOR THE NORDS everyone who's an empire simp is a leftist tranny that hates their own country and people.
>>738318531it makes legit 0 sense to join the faction that wanted to execute you a few minutes before
>>738327163>>738327382>>738327961The DB lived in Cyrodiil, even Hadvar mentions it.>I guess people have other things to think about down in Cyrodiil
>>738328956you voted for the orange pedophile in that picture, you approve of it.
>>738321059Me on the left
>>738329740>leftists now trying to gatekeep hating jewsYou got into this like, yesterday. Respect the veterans.
>>738323425How old are you?
>>738329740>voting is accepting responsibility for the governments actionsNot sure you want to take that one to the hilt bud
i usually have my argonian and khajiit females make out with each other
>>738318531It's honestly bad game design that the thalmor are so evil even though all elves should theoretically be okay with them. Try RPing as a high elf that supports the thalmor. Todd Howard doesn't want you to do that.
>>738328143[Distant Item Bounce]
>>738323425>I didn't know who he was>Michael fucking jackson the literal most famous person on the planet What a strange post
>>738323425>I didn't know who he wasWhat? Did you live your whole life under a rock? I'm a zoomer and even I listened to his shit when I was 10
>>738330395this but I use carnival to make us, yes US, all have a giant lizard cat orgy insteead
>>738331298>I did this thing, so that means you should've done this thing!!!!!okNot arguing with you, just telling you how it went down.
>>738324346Duh tranny duh suck my cock nigger, if you were smarter than me you'd have rebuked my point. Not an Evafag either, I just like the reaction image, I stopped watching when that annoying redhead slut showed up
>ImperialsDefeated>DunmerDeported>KhajiitMarried
>dullest gameplay known to man>objectively a downgrade story wise from previous entries>side quests are worse as well>a subpar implementation of level scaling >character building is barely a thing>etc etc etcAnd people still talk about it regularly 15 years(!) after release. How the fuck did ToddGOD do it?
9/10 times I just ignore the civil war and make money ambushing thalmor patrols, elven armor sells for more than guard armor or the imperial set. When I do civil war I find it hard too not side with the storm cloaks if I do a vanilla start run.
>>738318531Stormcloaks are the more logical option. Same reason I took stances with Redoran in Morrowind. The Empire is fucking retarded and ruins the world with Cyrohomo slop
>>738334194Nobody does its just not that there's not another game that has the same sandbox feeling complete with the massive modding culture around it thst allows you to play it in every possible way imaginable from arguably the best 3D sex simulator on the market to a Fromsoft clone and beyond the limits are nearly boundless.
>>738318531Honestly wish we could kill both sides
>>738318531Empire. It's the best chance to take down the Aldmeri.>>738320524I agree, just as long as the Empire actually follows through with the revolt against the Aldmeri, which I believe they would, since it'd be frustrating otherwise.
>>738320524By the time of the events of Skyrim, the might of the Dominion is wildly exaggerated. The Redguards’ victory over them years later proved that the Battle of the Red Ring was a turning point. The Empire should not have capitulated. Now that they have, they should not be honoring the most predatory aspects of the White Gold Concordat. Talos worship should not be illegal and unaccompanied and armed Thalmor soldiers should not be allowed to roam around the Empire arresting its citizens. If the Empire left everything else the same with the treaty but those two things they would call the bluff of the Aldmeri. The elves are not in a position to start another war.
>>738318531Both are compromised and it is set-up for it to obviously see pros and cons on both sides. I think Kirkbride or some other one said that he wanted the Aldmeri Dominion to finally win so you'd have to retake it. In Skyrim, when you talk to Madena in Dawnstar, she talked about the attack from the Aldmeri 30 year's ago and Elves practically got bodied. I would probably have it like Kirkbride said and just have the Aldmeri take over Tamriel, so then you'd have to retake it once and for all and finally conquer Summerset Isles.
The Empire are grossly incompetent. They fucked the Oblivion Crisis up and turtled up so everyone did their own thing, then during the War the Empire backstabbed everyone from Elsewyr to Morrowind to Hammerfall and especially Skyrim. Then the Empire cucked out completely despite the fact everyone in Hammerfell and Skyrim still wanted to (and still is) keep the war going.
>>738333827Based
>>738318531>one claims to hate the aldmer but does their bidding>the other proclaims peace with the aldmer but does everything to undermine themEasy choice for anyone with a brain.
>>738323632No such thing
>>738323632>>738337646They're called Jills
>>738336990They both hate the Thalmor. One of them lets Thalmor stasi roam their territory disappearing people. That’s really the only difference when it comes to how each handles the elves.
>>738318531People really get too into this shit when arguing. I assume most of them are lorelets or something.Pretty much every province has OP divine fuckery that will spill forward and save them when shit becomes bad. >B-but Morrowind and Cyrodill are in decline!They had divine fuckery protecting them for centuries. It was just recently stripped away and is on cool down. BTW, this divine fuckery is also known as shit writing.
>>738320383The main story is actually pretty short.
>>738319892>Not a single good character with personality>Worthless gameplay>Not a single good piece of writing at allAtleast the music is good I guess.
>/v/ pretending any choice they made in Skyrim is gonna matter in VI which will be another timeskip that destroys the setting further
>>738318531Whoever winsI usually just pick one at random
>>738318531Imperial just because I don't like the Jarl's changing to other people.
>>738321000>If they had any sort of sense or thought of long-term planning, the Emperor would have just immediately proclaimed faith in Talos the second the Dominion demanded they renounce him in the treaty.That's literally what he did though. The first time they came to him with the treaty he told them to fuck off which is what kicked off the war in the first place. Also originally the White-Gold Concordant had no provisions for Justiciars. Public temples were closed but people still worshiped in their homes without issue, the Empire barely enforced it. Justiciars only became a thing because a certain Thalmor asset (guess who?) staged a major public incident at their request. That gamble for time was a lot better of a play when they Empire only had to make cursory gestures at enforcing the ban, and it would have stayed that way if not for a guy who is not forthcoming with his subjects about his involvement in this whole shitshow. Also, while you are correct that the Gods (Divines/Aedra) do sometimes send help in times of need, they are notorious for being super fickle/inconsistent. In-universe books explicitly say that sometimes the Gods are totally silent during times of crisis and nobody knows why. That's part of the reason people worship Daedra, they will probably con you and fuck you over but at least they talk back and won't leave you on read.
>>738318531>picking the guys that tried to behead you because it was convenient for themYeah, fuck that
>>738320012How am I gonna give you HIV? Expecting me to bend you over and fuck you in the ass? LOL, typical stormcuck.
>>738320524they’re nowhere near being tamriel’s best fighters and it’s because they’ve been imperialized
>>738318531I'm just gonna run away as soon as I'm out of Helgen as usual
>>738318531What's the reward for taking a side again?
>>738331194>>738330174>>738331298I was 9 years old in 2008 and LatvianMy parent's mostly just had Local and CDs and Knho, I did not know much about western music at the time
>>738335462>All of Tamriel is conquered by the Thalmor so you have to take it back. Now that I think about it this might be a pretty kino setting. I bet if ES6 is in Hammerfell the Dominion will still be a foreign power but they will have gained ground and influence in wider Tamriel. If this happens I bet it's the setting of ES7.