>$900 for 500gb version>$1100 for 2tb version, comes with software bundle like deck>no option without controller>announcement later this month, ships in early-mid june
>>738319509honestly not bad
>>738319509What will the price leak be for tomorrow?
>>738319731>900$ for series s equivalent of performance >not badReally negro.
>>738320365at the rate microsoft is raising prices it'll be cheaper than the series s by the time it releases kek
Wow! $900 for a base ps5 is a steal
Holy shit, Sony is fucking finished if Valve can sell these this cheap.
>>738319509And people laughed at me when I said it's going to be around that price range
source?
>>738321773no source, op is a faggot.MEANSTWHILST, $600 has already been confirmed...https://x.com/Pirat_Nation/status/2051316166723784858
>>738321902>confirmed because I saw a tweetyou are a gay retard
>>738322053yes it's confirmed because i saw it in a xeet. nigger.
>>738319509>no option without controllerThat would be pretty annoying if you bought the controller and planned on buying the box when it comes out.
>>738319509No thanks I'll stick to my docked $500 Steam Deck
>>738319509>>no option without controllerbut I already bought two of them...
>>738319509Source: my ass
>>738321902>Valve’s new Steam Machine will probably cost $600 to $650, according to the well-known leaker Moore’s Law Is Dead.
>>738320416You can find a Series S on ebay for sub $200.
>>738319509leaked from your ass if anything, you pant shitting attention seeking goblin
>>738319509>>no option without controllernice try but you made this make no sense with this based on their interviews
>>738322053It was revealed to me in a dream
>>738320416It’s literally just off-the-shelf parts though, nothing unique except the case I guess.
>>738322857yeah I wouldn't really trust a guy with thumbnails like thisit seems like he says whatever shit will get him clicks and then when he's wrong he goes "guess my sources were inaccurate"
>>738319731>>738320416That is terrible for what is supposed to be an entry level consumer unit. Who gives a shit what Xbox is doing. This is their last generation.
>>738319509The shitass reality is that in this market they need to sell these for a profit or else everyone will buy them for non-gaming purposes like how I bought my mom a 64GB steam deck and ziptied it behind her TV with windows installed.
>>738319509and i can play my games offline - wow so futuristic!!!!
>>738323135wow, so like every PC i've built for the last 15 years - thanks anon!
>poorfags still on copium
>>738320365Xbawks is dying homie, it's time to jump ship.
>>738319509>500gbWow it can hold a total of 3 modern games at once!
>>738319509>software bundleWith what? Where is the controller bundle?
>>738319509this just killed PS5 and PS6.
>>738322053What? As opposed to OP pulling shit from his ass?
>>738320365Not being tied down to Xbox' shitty infrastructure is almost worth it alone
>>738326978Why not? It’s as trustworthy
>>738326210Why tho, they can sell them at no profit and no loss
>>738319509>words pulled straight from his gaping faggot ass>no sauce in sightFAKE AND GAY
>>738319509Not bad.For comparison: Steam Machine equivalent desktop PC:
>>738319509might as well just buy a fucking Alienware Aurora or something
>>738331006>equivalent>the GPU alone will run circles around it
>>738331049Steam machine is cute and small, no one wants to see a massive alienware desktop ruining their living room decor
>>738319509It's going to be $700 without the controller, $750 with the controller for the 512GB models. It's going to be $900 without the controller, $950 with the controller for the 2TB model. Valve will take a loss because of the RAM shortage.
>>738320365This, a PlayStation, and a Switch 2 are worth getting over a fucking Xbox, especially a fucking Xbox tied to Windows.
>>738322857Moore's Law is Dead didn't leak the Steam Machine would cost that much, he said Valve SHOULD charge that much based on the hardware specs. He didn't leave out the possibility Valve would be retarded and charge over $800 for it, in which case he said it would be dead in the water.
>>738331006dude that’s literally double the performance of the steam machine, what are you doing?
>>738319509I need a new PC, should I get this or just try and build something myself?
>>738332864You're right that he weighed in heavily on how much he thinks it should cost, but that wasn't the only thing he did. He also stated what he thinks it actually will costs, and claims to know how much the 512gb actually costs Valve.
>>738321902Kek, you faggots think of a number and go yup, that is it. Inflation and scarcity be damned
>>738334001Only if it's less than $700.
>>738334065>youI'm not Moore's Law is dead anon...
>>738334106literally who
Isn't this basically a laptop in a cube shape? Why is /v/ ok with this?
>>738319509your dad works at steam?
>>738319509>$900 for this gay cubic shit that only has 500 gbGabecucks hahaha peecee massa disgrace race hahah
Guess I'll have to put together my own compact PC, then. I just want a nice little box for my living room as a media player (mostly for 35mm scans of films with dogshit blu-ray/UHD releases). I have an old 2080S full tower system lying around, might just try to cram that into a smaller case.
>>738334384+200 and you get a 2TBYeah, I think we Gabechads eating good, just prevent the scalpers to buy up the whole batch (they won't)
>leik ah muh gawd another steamy shit from gaben yassssss my 1280x800 at .5 watts plays ALL my games, indie only at 140p 10 but WOWWWW
>>738334676erhmmmmmmm who are you quoting
>>738334905>who are you quoting
>>738334991>who are you quoting
>>738334991>>738335007STOP IT!!!!
>>738320529>picWhere did they go?
>>738320365>>738332487I can't play my entire Steam library and use mods on an Xbox, Switch, or PlayStation.
>>738335040they became single mothers
>>738319509whats the point if valve again, to fight scalpers, puts around 1000 units that will end up scalped in 20 minutes or so?
>>738335143Doesn't matter what the price tag is, scalpers are always going to scalp. The only thing the big man can do is restrict purchase quantities per account, like how each account could only buy 2 controllers. While that won't stop them, it still gives normal people a chance.
>>738335286>not restricting it to accounts who played at least 100 hours in the previous month
>>738334676I look like this and say this
>>738335421So people new to steam dont get shit. Great sales pitch genuis.
>>738319509I shall buy one and only one. Just to cause seething.
>>738335523>imagine being new to steam
>>738319509Ok
>>738319509I don't care where the fuck is the new half life game.
>>738319509Will I be able to buy one from Gamestop? I'll be around murica for the soccer superbowl.
>>738336831no, that would mean giving retailers a cut of profits
>>738319509>ships in early-mid juneJune 13th to be exact>Side Three>1+5=6>6+7=13>1+7+11+7=266/13/26Also the record focuses on pigeons specifically>National Pigeon Day: June 13th
>>738319509This explains the high price for controllers.
>>738337056I got an official Steam Deck from them a couple of years ago :/ they had official resellers everywhere in the NY store and they charged me the same for it.
>>738319509>500gb version>in 2026I do not believe Valve would be this fucking retarded unless they've decided to straight up scam their fans for the cash.
>>738331006The CPU in the Steam Machine is an even lower clocked version of the 8400F, not the 8700F. the GPU in the Steam Machine is a slightly higher clocked mobile RX 7600, the 9060 is drastically more powerful. For mid 2026 the Steam Machine is laughable dogshit. Nothing will change that. It should have launched late 2024.
>>738319509>>738319731>$900 for 500gb version>honestly not bad$900 is exactly what I paid for my Ultra 265, 5060ti 16gb, 32gb ram and 2tb drive rig back in December
>>738319509As much as Iike the idea of the Cube, I don't think I'd need one. A docked Steam Deck is essentially the same thing, just with less capable hardware, but I'm set up for remote streaming from my PC so I don't need powerful hardware anyway. Two Steam Controllers paired with my docked Deck for comfy couch gaming. Now if only the fucking controller wasn't botted to death and out of stock...
>>738331006>imagine being this retarded
I don't really understand the point of it being a small cube. muh portability is a meme to begin with but if you also need a fucking monitor and MKB?
I bought a mini PC 2 years ago. Why is this thing so special at this price?
>>738339121Its notSteam is just selling boutique hardware like apple based on brand name alone
>>738339121Data centers bought up all the production of storage and processing so everything is expensive except for the shittiest stuff that's left over, like Chromebooks.
>>738339121your mini pc's gpu didn't even compare and it didn't ship as a gaming centric pc focused around console experience on linux
>>738338959its big enough and heavy enough where its not really portablebut its not meant to be, its just meant to look nice to normalfags so they can be coerced into buying one, their wife wont allow them to have a normal ugly incel chud pc tower in the open
>>738338959Its supposed to be a living room PC, it not small to be portable. It's small to be able to fit in a TV cabinet or shelf. As far as needing a M+KB, thats why they made the Steam Controller. You can navigate a desktop environment with the trackpads just like you can on the Steam Deck, which shares the same OS (SteamOS). If you NEED to use a M+KB for gaming you could, but it kinda defeats the purpose. At that point just use a regular desktop.
>>738331006>8700fshit cpu
IT'S OVER
>>738320365steamies are a cult
>>738339517it's meant to be sturdyunlike a regular pc you won't rape the pcie slot by shaking it
youre buying a piece of history with valve products. only poorfags would complain about the price.
>>738340002>you won't rape the pcie slot by shaking ityoure supposed to use the screws to secure everything
>>738319509>PC GaymingLmao, without Nintendo nor Playstation exclusives what's literally the point?
>>738340069have you ever taken an atx sized pc with the gpu in on a car ride?
>>738340429screw it down properly lil bromaybe ask your dad to do it if youre not strong enough
>>738340818no amount of screwing it down will compensate for the fact that you're constantly putting pressure on the pcie slot and it'll be much less robust due to having lots of wiggle room and much less secure attachment than in a mini pcwhy didn't you answer the question?
>500 GBAssuming you don't already have a larger capacity SSD you're gonna stick in this thing already, is anybody interested in this version?
>>738319509The difference between 500gb and 2tb SSD is supposed to be $200?
>>738340991In the unrealistic scenario where you would take your tower PC offroading for a joyride I would assume you just lay it on its sideFor christs sake shut the fuck up already
>>738319509This or spend $2k building a 9700x with 9070xt? By pc died and even though I know I should wait for zen6, I am not waiting a year to.get a new one
>>738341797Depends on what you play and your set-up.
>>738341797Or just spend the 900 bucks on a 5060 prebuilt that will still be 5 times as powerful as the Valvepube
>>738341797steamcube is not going to have some magical sauce that makes it run games better. It will be laptop tier. Buy a PC if you want to play new AAA games.
>>738341594Yes
>>738341601so you didn'tjust say thatyes, it's not safe to do so even when you lay it on the motherboard sideunlike the steam machine, its survival is not even a question
>>738337457where is that pic from? whats p with 13th june?
>>738319509Didn't they release this in 2018 or something?
>>738341797building is always better9070xt is the sweet spot in value though the 9700x is way more expensive than the 9600x despite only having 2 more cores>>738341912>5060 prebuiltdouble retardthe only card nvidia has that's even remotely valuable is the 5070everything else is overpriced for how weak it is
>>738341965
>>738341797They're completely different
>>738341983I thought I told you shut the fuck up
>>738319509Why would you buy this instead of a prebuilt or building your own PC?
>>738342183no one told you to reply to me when you don't understand the subject and have no experience doing it
>>738319509So does this mean that when this releases, the desktop version of SteamOS will available around then? Or can I just use the regular version of SteamOS?
>>738342307valve is literally making drivers for amd, they vouch for themdon't expect to use it on nvidia
>>738321902believing marlis kek. get fucked retard
>>738342246You do sound like you would be a nice layYour little hole would be a tight fit but I could make it work
>>738343263you're a sore loser lmaoyou simply can't accept that you don't know everything despite never having experienced the matter at hand
>>738342112>5070Literal ewaste of a card that will hit its vram limit way before it hits it rendering limit
>>738343389Im not the one thats going to sore baby
>>738343664i wish your parents could have read your faggy posts before they conceived you
>>738343743Oh yeah thats right, I like when they struggle
>>738343541it's literally the only card nvidia has that doesn't have a retarded price tag that makes amd stomp them on value
>>738342046the recently released vinyl for half life alyxit has the songs listed in a very strange order and might hint towards the steam machine's and half life 3's release date
>>738319509>200 bucks for storage increaseis it soldered on? if that's the only difference, i'm sure i have a 1 TB m.2 drive laying around
>>738344215This is a 6 in by 6 in cube, you aren't modifying anything.
>>738344390Storage and RAM are upgradeable, but that's about it.
>>738343983Because its worthlessSame reason the 3070 is going for 150 used now and the 3060 12gb is going for 300 usedProcessing power isnt being capped out nearly as much as vram these daysThe 5060ti 16gb is the better value, its too bad nividia realized this and discontinued it
>>738344764>The 5060ti 16gb is the better valueat what? slop generation? the 5070 beats it in pretty much every game benchmark
>>738344636>>738344390a lot of pcs jumped on the soldered RAM train for the performance boost but I thought replaceable storage was still pretty standard for everyone but Apple. even my friend's 2 year old razer laptop let you swap that out
>>738344905Whats the point when your fps tanks when the vram limit is reached?Id rather have a less powerful card thats stable than a card that chokes at any point there is too much being loaded in for the vram to handle
>>738345619>rt on, fg
I wonder how hard it will be to replace the SSDI guess you just pull up the cpu fan/heatsink?
>>738345932It's supposed to be easier than the memory, which was said to be a lot more involved.
>>738345932Very. People are underestimating how tight this is. Get out a tape measure or just look at the pic there, it's basically the same size as the controller
>>738345932such a great fucking aesthetic, board and heatsink in a tight box none of the form over function faggotry like the snoybox
>>738319509So this pretty much confirms that the Frame is going to be $1499. Holy shit we're so fucked.
>>738319509nice source URL faggot
>>738345932>>738346127SSD is on the other side of the board
>>738345932this looks like a raspberry pi with a huge heat sink lol
>>738319509what is software bundle like deck?
>>738346637so no lifting up anything? cool..
>>738345932Wow this thing is going to choke on dust around here
>>738346723Custom profile themes and startup screens I would imagineNot games if that was what you are thinking
>>738346723probably just exclusive profile rewards, like they did with the more expensive/limited edition steamdicks
Just glad I had the foresight to buy a lot of ram and storage last yearI will say that the relatively low spec of the steam machine is a good standard, the requirements for unreal slop and the like is out of hand, it's incompetence
>>738347342Steamdeck is unironically making some devs target it as a system, im sure the machine will tooValve doing what microsoft can't with the series sbased
I think you can save $300 and buy a cheap m9/karambit on a third party skin seller site and then sell it on steam marketplace for much higher
>>738347342>storageIm kicking myself for not getting SSDs and HDDs when they were cheap
I'm kicking myself for not buying [EVERYTHING] when it was cheap
>>738345932>I wonder how hard it will be to replace the SSDextremely easily
>>738335523What's the problem?
>>738347993I did make sure to pick up a prebuilt during black friday this time at least after getting cockblocked back during the bitcoin-COVID arcIts just sitting here collecting dust as of right now while I continue to use my old PC as a a daily driver but still I got it as a backup in case
>>738347997What size is that? Standard 2280?
>>738347993It's pretty funny how late zoomers and alphas will only ever know the world as a horrible late capitalist shithole
>>738347483It feels so good to see Valve, Nintendo, and Sony just push Microsoft's shit in on a constant.
>>738320365being able to own your games makes it above any slopconsole on the market
>>738319509>under 1kfake and gay
>>738320365>Cheaper than a ps5 pro>With gamesHoly shit
>>738347997>1TB ssd for 60€ few years agoAt the time it looked like a stupid purchase.
>>738349445just wait for the ps6 tendie :Pyou won't be laughing then
>>738349949why would anyone want a console going forward?steamos with steam big picture offers the retard experience without the consolecuck concessions
>>7383482502230 preinstalled, 2280 is the other screw hole.
>>738351551I see now, thanks anon
>>738320365It's gonna sell out anyway, which means valve priced it exactly the right amount
Will I still be able to do creamapi on the steam cube? Or will it have some kind of custom linux that blocks it?
>>738356035yuphttps://github.com/Novattz/creamlinux-installerhttps://github.com/anticitizn/creamlinuxusually its the same, just creamapi the files, only changes if theres a native linux port, then you need creamlinux
>>738348509steam is a digital license for a game, you don’t own it.
>>738358797so is physical media?
>>738358058What the hell is creamapi?
>>738319509>ships in early-mid junethat's crazy we're getting HL3 on June 16th 2026
>>738359085It lets you pirate all the dlc.
>>738319731>$1100 for 2TB>which can't be upgardedNah, that's overpriced. $900 should be the 2TB and $500 for the 500GB since 500GB now a days is very low.
>>738359085tricks some games to think you have all the dlc, usually some ini and .dll changessome games have safeguards around it
>>738341352Sup hot mamas why don't you take a look at my 3TB of external spinning rust!
>>738360078>upside-down 3
>>738319731PS5 will slaughter it at that price point.
I'M A FRIKKIN STEAMIE OKAY!!!
>>738353504>Make one unit in stock>It sells out due to your 100 cultists fighting to buying it>Yay it's a success :^)
>>738319509>this picture literally makes steamies shake uncontrollablyThey simply can't cope with the idea valve is ripping the off.
>>738360995lolyou do know that the existence of those is an argument as to why the steam machine will be cheaper, right?if chinks can make a profit while giving a cut to amazon then so can valve
>>738360995Full specs for the device and yes it is better than the steam machine in multiple ways like more nvme slots for one.
Take this anon as your Kryptonite against the steam cultist.
>>738361110What's the GPU like
OP is a faggot here's the real price>1 gorillian dollarsProofs link: https://files.catbox.moe/tscw19.jpg
>>738361425poostill, chinks can sell a similarly specced mini pc minus the gpu for $450 on amazon and still make a profitand framework sells an rx 7700s module for $350this basically tops out the lower end machine at $800 but realistically much closer to $700
>>738361110>680MLmao, that thing isn't even as fast as a GTX 1050, it's just about as fast as an 'eck.
>>738322965brand new?! where?
>>738335040they got put in the brap barn and got fat
>>738360995Hey anon. Post some perfomance graphs.
>>738332864Considering that the controller itself is priced at around 100 bucks I thing that the gabe cube is going to cost around 800 bucks (700 bucks plus the 100 bucks that the controller is worth).At best the cheapest gabecube is going to cost around 680 (512GB SSD, no extras in the box) and at most it's going to sell for 1000 (2TB PCIE SSD, 2 controllers, some meme skins for the OS and/or steam/steam virtual keyboard along with maybe something like the Valve complete collection or some skin(s) for CS2 and maybe Deadlock)At this point I think Valve understands that the gabe cube is going to be dead in the water anyway if they don't push it out before the end of this year since at that point the competition is going to have newer chips at the same pricepoints, so they will have to sweeten the deal if they want to sell this thing for more than 700 bucks and I don't think that the original 2 controller package is going to cut it anymore at that point.
>>738344390>you aren't modifying anythingOh yeah? I'm gonna buy one, and put a Noctua fan in it. Just because I can.
Will we be able to put a c:\ drive on this? Pirating games is a pain in the ass on the deck.
>>738363095This thing has a custom fan frame, good luck with that>>738345932
>>738363268yeah, in the sense that you can install windows on it if you want
>>738341965>bought an 8tb nvme on black friday
>>738359501>which can't be upgardedit can be upgraded, however
>>738363268>c:\ driveWhat the fuck are you babbling about? Dual booting?I don't know why you would think that putting the cancer that is W10/11 is better than just installing Lutris or Bottles on Linux but yes, you can completely ruin your Gabecube by giving it super aids if that is what you really want, it's a fucking 'puter that is built to look like a tiny console.
>>738363310Yeah but I think windows slows down underpowered hardware. Will this have an NPU or is it AI free?
>>738363268Nigger, Linux filesystem is easy as shit to understand, everything goes into home and if you have a second drive you can decide the exact folder name and file path for it
>>738363493>Being this tech illiterateYour worse than the console babs that still infest /v/
>>738363465The pirated games are always searching for a c:/ drive. I don’t understand why you can’t just make a cloned file partition in Linux to trick the cracks into thinking it is the default directory. Plus It’s bullshit that every game just clones direct x in linux. There should be a unified installation every game can call to, like a driver.
>>738363493it’s all old leftover hardware, there’s no ai
>>738363520If you look at your steam installations, steam is just reinstalling all the windows calls for every game.
>>738363627What is the point of having a tiny pc if there isn’t an NPU to upscale the games running at a lower resolution?
>>738363684see >>738347483
>>738363596Holy shit anon, I don't know how you've been able to figure out posting on 4chan if your this retarded. Even the newer "hypervisor" exploit for Denuvo is easy to do on Linux. You can even ask fucking Meta AI about it and that thing is about as retarded as you are.
>>738363684It uses FSR for upscaling, which doesn’t use the NPU. FSR 4 is supposedly using the NPU though whenever that comes out
>>738363684>NPUThat has fuckall to do with any vidya upscaling tech at all since they all rely on either the CPU or the GPU in order to do their thing, it's just DLSS that uses any kind of special hardware and that is only because it's specifically programmed to not run on anything but jewvidya
>>738363731You have never had an installation fail in linux because it is missing a c++ runtime or whatever windows bullshit is missing from the crack? I don’t believe you.
>>738363268each proton folder has it's own c driveits just a matter of annoyance
>>738363864>C++>c:\ driveI couldn't ask for a better post, thanks for the laugh anon.I hope that your at least smart enough to understand how to use google search and READ the first few things that pops up since that is how easy it is to fix your "problem"
>>738363848My Indiabox has a dedicated NPU for upscaling. It runs like shit though. I was hoping Valve would have better engineers than microsoft.
>>738363303That never stopped me from zip tying them to my GPU
>>738363720That's a cope and hope
>>738364042kek, that's pretty rad anon. how were the temps before/after the swap?
>>738319509>$900 for 500gb version>$1100 for 2tb version
>>738363864literally just run winetricks or proton tricks and they'll get the dependencies for you
>>738363992>NPUI hope you understand that your just a quick google search away or even a quick AI question away from curing your retardation.
>>738319509No games
>>738319509>500gbSo you can have 2 games. Very cool.
>>738364186I stole that pic because I'm tool lazy to take a picture of mineTarget temps were the same it's just way quieter
>>738341352i am. you i'm the PC gamer that is often joked about, you know, the one who spent nearly 1K making a computer to play indie games? 500gb should do nicely (admittedly newer games are getting really fucking big. RE9 was fucking 70 fucking gb! but i cant wait on expanding storage until prices come down some day)
>>738363268The most annoying game i had to install on the steamdeck>moving preinstalled folder didnt work>had to find the installer from the internet archive>installer as non steam game>finally installed>no expac but expac is installed>had to find the expac crack>on rutracker>point previous nonsteam to new installer>then point nonsteam to new .exe>finally workedgahsims 3 was the same annoying shit
>>738364202It has a dedicated upscaler chip.
>>738364326Massive pain in the ass for such a dogshit game
>>738364326so fucking lame that EA was in charge of Maxis. Same with what happened to the old Bullfrog games. Someday i will play Sim Theme Park again.......
>>738364369>It has a dedicated upscaler chip.may we see it? or are you just gonna highlight the ram?
>>738320365you vill buy the machine and controzer and you vill rike it
>>738319731>>738364315You can just buy a Mac Mini M4 with more Ram and still save $100. You people are getting scam.
>>738364634I think It’s in here somewhere on the other side of the board.
>>738341352fuck im old I recognize those two pornstars
>>738364326a lot of those "cracks" work by modifying windows registry values. when you install the game via one method (say, system default wine by just double clicking the .exe), all the windows data is lost because you're creating a new prefix via steam. you have to install it with crack via the same prefix by manually editing the registry data or by using something like protontricks.
>>738359085something that has made paradox corporates seethe for many years because steam doesn't care it exists
The NPU is the orange box on the lower left.This allows the games to render at psp resolution natively and then the NPU hallucinates the image back up to 1080p.
>>738364326I hope you understand that there are much easier alternatives to running cracked games on Linux than using fucking Steam since Valves implementation of Proton creates a new directory for EVERY steam entry in order to apply game specific trickery and that non-steam games doesn't get that same luxury.Bottles does the same thing but instead of having to run the installer and repointing to the same directory over and over it just creates a single directory (bottle) that you can then use as an ordinary Windows system. You'll have to do the maintenance on it yourself by installing any missing dlls, drivers or applications on it manually but once its set up it's easier to manage than Steam.
>>738364830Ah yes, the APU (GPU/CPU) that is exactly what is doing the calculations. Again anon, learn to use fucking google or if that is too hard for you, you can always ask even the most lobotomized AI and they would have told you the same thing without the humiliation ritual.
>>738365021So install bottles, and then any fitgirl/dodi repack should include whatever you need. Then get the rune crack and point it at the bottles directory?
>>738365141What APU is steam machine using?
>>738365171You shouldn’t need the crack at all since the repacks are already cracked
>>738365171You don't have to do any pointing with Bottles anon, you literally just use the emulated drive(s) that it provides and do the same thing as you would have done on any other Windows install.Download bottles and follow the tutorial and it will explain everything for you
>>738365009couldn't they just put more processing power in that space to run the game at 1080 native?
>>738319509Or i can install linux on my used 300 dollar ps5. I wont however, since pc exclusives are all rts slop, indie slop, or porn
For fucks sakes, just spring for a few extra hundred for a decent PC at this point.
>>738365171don't listen to those other retards, get an understanding of what a wineprefix is instead of gimping yourself with shit like bottles
>>738365229It doesn't, it has a butchered mobile GPU and a modified AMD CPU in it. Exactly which ones aren't known, we just know that they are supposedly parts that AMD already provide but that has been modified in some way, we don't even know if there is an NPU on the CPU but since they are trying to cut cost and since they run Linux on it they will most likely NOT include an NPU since that would be completely pointless thanks to the thing having a dedicated GPU already.
>>738365412>WineprefixYou might as well just tell him to use ordinary Wine at that point
>>738363596>The pirated games are always searching for a c:/ drive. I don’t understand why you can’t just make a cloned file partition in Linux to trick the cracks into thinking it is the default directoryThat's what wine and proton do. They trick the programs into thinking it's in a C: drive. The real filesystem is under Z:
>>738365562no because that would be retarded
>>738365328That’s a Mark Cerny question. Something about the Canus chip for the new Playstation portable allows them to push a lot of the rendering onto that neural network so the rest of the apu can do whatever the developer needs.
>>738365009I just looked it up and holy shit, I actually didn't know that W11 had some system functions that allows the NPU to be used for SOME up-scaling work, even if it is much more primitive than the XeSS, DLSS or FSR ones. But again, why the fuck would any chip manufacturer ever include an NPU when said space could be spent on more GPU or even CPU cores instead? It' still retarded, even more so if said PC already have a dedicated GPU that is going to be 10x faster at AI stuff than any integrated NPU would ever be.
>>738365647Then why are you telling him to install extra tools to mess with Steam Proton when he could accomplish the same thing by just changing settings in Bottles but without the extra apps or steps needed? Sure, if you stick with the Soda runners you'll be worse off but if you just switch too kron4ek 11+ you'll get the same or better results on bottles with just a little bit of initial effort.
>>738365982>Then why are you telling him to install extra tools to mess with Steam Proton when he could accomplish the same thing by just changing settings in Bottles but without the extra apps or steps needed? Sure, if you stick with the Soda runners you'll be worse off but if you just switch too kron4ek 11+ you'll get the same or better results on bottles with just a little bit of initial effort.??? wineprefix isn't an 'extra tool' you retard, seems like you need to read up on it as well.
>>738365676>Microshaft spending silicon on making a worse chip that NEEDS up-scaling to be competitiveI can't say that I'm surprised but then again, with how fucking large the APUs on consoles are nowadays they might actually be able to do it without sacrificing space for other components even if more GPU cores would be able to do the same thing and be easier for developers to utilize.
>>738366127Wineprefix as your describing it is an extra tool anon, it's an application that is meant to uncover the wine settings/options in a more digestible manner and provide links to other version of Wine, something that is already included in Bottles through a different GUI
>>738366205Apparently because the NPU’s are specialized for matrix calculations they can use less power, heat, and have lower latency than GPU cores to do the same calculation. I don’t know why that matters for the ps6, but it is important for the new portable one, for battery life and cooling. The xbox ally x is huge and gets incredibly hot.
>>738365676>Consoles are going back to the co-processor eralmao, I thought that died with the PS3. The PS5 co-processor(s) obviosuly didn't do jack shit in order to save on performance anyway. Since devs either didn't use it or their games were heavily bottlenecked in other ways.
>>738366467Yes but microsoft is running the upscaler at the OS level. It doesn’t require any developer support.
>>738366337>t's an application that is meant to uncover the wine settings/options in a more digestible manner and provide links to other version of Wine, something that is already included in Bottles through a different GUIyou're probably thinking of winetricks or winecfg or something like that anon. WINEPREFIX is a variable all wine binaries use (including their forks, like proton) and can be modified by invoking it directly within the steam launch options. when you launch a proton game, by default the WINEPREFIX value is the $(steamdir)/steamapps/compatdata/(game ID number). for nonsteam games it just generates a random number but it's still in that same dir.
>>738366439NPU's are so heavily specialized that they are useless in comparison to CPUs and GPUs. The only possible way they make any sense is if your planning on using it to run code that it was made to run, which right now only makes sense if your planning on having AI run on it 24/7. This is the AGEIA PhysiX cards bullshit all over again, which is why GPUs are still the most heavily utilized part in AI still, because it can run shit other than specifically optimized AI code.
>>738366692The AI is just supposed to redraw all the squares. That’s it. Somehow that is very important for performance.
>>738366516Again, the upscaler is completely pointless as long as you have enough GPU/CPU power in order to run the games without it. They are planing for a future that isn't sustainable and that just encourages devs to be even more lazy with their code.Eventually even the hardware/OS provided support won't be enough to run the games at stable framerates. It's the same reason why games STILL run like ass on PS5 even though Sony also provides an OS level upscaler already, just look at games like MH:Wilds and you'll see that it just creates a catch 22 scenario.
The NPU doesn’t have to run through the memory as much as the gpu.
>>738366812>>738366858>>738366993Do you know what is also a really good and proven way too draw pixel on a screen? GPUs. Do you know what also needs memory, physical space and electricity? NPUs.This only makes sense if whoever is making these chips thinks that the limiting factor for game performance right now and in the future are the amount of pixels being pushed to the screen. I also wonder how GI is going to be affected by this since the GPU would need to run calculations on all the upscaled frames regardless to reduce graphical artifacts.
>>738367258The chinamen from the 80’s said you should get a minimum of 6 times improvement. That was with computers from 50 years ago.
>>738320529not a console toddler snoy
>>738320529they have them all over in nj bro
>>738367535What the fuck does the pic even mean? More calculations per unit of memory? What does that have to do with vidya that isn't just bottlenecked by the amount of memory it needs to access?
>>738367728Because it runs through the calculations in a series before it calls on the memory again. Instead of a linear gpu pipeline it is an array of matrixes.
>>738319509For an entry level PC, that's not terrible.It's still antithetical to PC gaming as a whole, but not terrible.
>>738339420>gaming centric pcinstall steam on anything and open big picture mode. There's your 'gaming centric PC'.>linuxnobody pays for linux, and rightfully so.
>>738364812>You can just buy a MacYou could also buy a pretty dress or a handbag but none of these will be useful for playing video games.
>>738363268>Put installer on deck>Run it through lutris>point lutris to installed game .exe and folder>choose your flavour of proton>add shortcut to steam>playOr easier method>install on windows>copy folder to deck>point lutris to .exe and choose proton version>add steam shortcut>playOr easiest method>install on windows>copy folder to deck>add .exe as non-steam game>play
>>738364812and play next to nothing on it?
>>738363073>Considering that the controller itself is priced at around 100 bucksthe steam controller is under priced, it has all the features of a pro controller while costing half the price.
>>738319509>$900 e-wasteall yours retarded nigger
>>738331006>Steam Machine equivalent desktop PC:Based retard. The Steam Machine will have a GPU on par with the mobile version of the RX 7600, which is obviously weaker than the RX 9060XT.
>>738366993oh my god...
>>738320365You know the price is on point and the leak is true when steamgoyim are already doing damage control.
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>>738332487I could understand a s2 but a Playstation? For commifornia lgbtq friendly turdperson shooters? For sports and gun games? Because that's all there is on a Playstation.
>>738369827 >$900 e-waste mald harder bro You’re acting like $900 for a prebuilt, console-sized PC with a current-gen GPU and NPU is some kind of war crime. Have you looked at GPU prices the last 5 years or are you posting from 2016?If it runs games at 1440p stable without sounding like a jet engine and doesn’t require you to babysit drivers every other patch, normies will eat it up. That’s literally the target market.If it flops, cool, don’t buy it. But calling it “e-waste” before benchmarks are even out just screams “I built one PC in 2020 and now it’s my entire personality.”
>>738371627Yeah, you're right, I'll wait until they get rid of Hulst and then decide whether I should bother with them anymore.
>>738320529The Gabecube is not as powerful as a PS5.
>>738326878Sorry the gabentroller is on ebay at 400 credits plus tip, thanks.
>>738319509>>738320365>>738320529>>738326861>>738331049>>738334384>>738334676Dont care still buying it
>>738374383Hope you've got a bot ready
>>738345087>soldered RAM>performance boostwut
