One interesting finding is>Consumption of game guides varies by generation>Gen X indexing higher on tips videos>Millennials on map toolsand>Generation Z on build guides.Basically Gen X wants to be told advice on how to beat the gameMillennials want to be told where everything in their open world triple A games and Gen Z wants someone else to spoonfeed them the answers on how to play the game most efficiently
>>738320836Gen Z is competitive and wants the meta builds but you wouldn't get it unc since you're bottom scoreboard anyway
I see a lot of this watching my younger relatives play game. The exact moment they have to think for themselves they take out their phone and google it. My nephew got TotK on release and every time he entered a Shrine he just put the name of it onto youtube.When I asked him to try and figure it out first he just said "I'm not wasting any time."
>>738320836So how exactly do they gather this data?I doubt many people have ign accounts
>>738320836Fascinating.
>>738321037Only a peasant does labor for himself. The product exists to entertain me, it's not a job.
>>738321037Bleak.
>>738321037I think when you're young you really really don't appreciate puzzles.I'm mid 30s and love games like The Talos Principle 2 more than anything now.
>>738321037Not their fault though, so many AAA studios abuse FOMO now. Even some singleplayer games have content that you can permanently miss out on if you don't do it in time.
>>738321037No wonder classic Zelda is dead
>>738321037My younger cousin does this also, when we played WoW he constantly just copied talent builds from top players when we did challenge modes together in MoP but he didn't know how to actually play so he would fail anyway.
>>738321037Are you seriously having nostalgia over spending hours on a puzzle as a kid pre internet era? Unless the game is an outright puzzle game devs need to fuck off putting them in games.
>>738321037That's fucking disgusting. What the fuck is wrong with kids these days?
>>738321206I can relate, hated puzzles when I was young too, still not too crazy about them. But I simply didn't play the games that heavily featured them. I think it's more FOMO culture making people waste their time on things they don't care about while "optimizing" their consumption of it in order to not waste time, ironically enough.
>>738321037Those shrine puzzles aren't even hard. I remember in like a third of the BOTW ones you could cheese it or abuse physics in fun ways.
>>738321037>friend claims to be huge Baldur's Gate 3 fan>cave in and buy it, actually enjoy it and do 2 full playthroughs>this motherfucker has 409 hours in the game and never got past the chapter 1 Creche>he keeps restarting and trying to play content in a specific order to get his new youtuber approved team build asap>eventually gave up and just watched all the cutscenes and interactions on youtube>won't stfu about BG3 being an amazing game>"Oh? Then why didn't you fucking play it?">NPCangry.jpeg
>>738321402nta but unironically I have really fond memories of figuring out a few difficult old game puzzles as a child mainly because back then I was always in a room with a lot of other kids my age or family members so it was neat being the only one to figure it out and everyone cheering me on after the others failed for like an hour.
>>738321109I'm pretty sure everybody at this point has an online profile with tags, names, ages and web history available to any online site with just a simple query requestIt's basically imposible to hide your online footprint unless you're using one of those tinfoil or military class OS
>>738321405>That's fucking disgusting. What the fuck is wrong with parenting these days?fixed it for you retard
>>738321638yeah true but isn't that illegal for IGN to access?I guess in the end I don't care I'm dumb enough to use a irl selfie on discord as my pfp.
>>738321596Unless your a NEET that doesn't fly anymore when you have maybe 1-2 days a week to game. I don't have fucking time to dick around solving puzzles. That kid is based for working smart not harder.
>>738321006>you're bottom scoreboard anywayI AM the scoreboard.
>>738321782You sound like a dumb motherfucker to be honest, if a puzzle in any video game actually takes you a meaningful amount of time to figure out, your time isn't nearly as valuable as you think it is because you're clearly too fucking stupid to have anything actually important to be doing, and no, your management shift at home depot isn't important.
>>738321703>yeah true but isn't that illegal for IGN to access?Nah, if it's posted to a server somewhere that people can access publicly, it's more or less free game unless it's something like private medical info, and even that's not always really protected.The government itself technically isn't allowed to snoop on your traffic and activity directly without a warrant, but even they can get around that by paying companies to do it for them.TL;DR, if you or anyone else puts it on the internet, it's pretty much free game.
>>738321703I don't know about youbut I'm not sure if the FBI or CIA benefits knowing that I fap to depictions of underage girlsand I don't really care, it's not like a person of interest to themthere's probably a guy being handed my AI generated web activity report every week and he must be confused as hell
All I know about Gen Z is they're addicted to Fortnite and Roblox, both of which are FOMO central.
>>738321927What a completely normal and measured response to an opinion. Your so smart amd totally not dumb like the guy who has enough IQ to respect his time.
whyare youreplyingto OPthat doesntprovidelinktothe topicof discussion
>>738322127You haven't been paying attention. Fortnite is Uncslop now. Even Tim Sweeny, the autistic retard, openly said the playerbase is dying because their audience is growing out of Fortnite and Gen Alpha watch streamers 24/7.
>>738321571>youtuber approved team build
>>738322251because the entire site is shills or botsat least half the posts in this engagement farm thread aren't made by humans
>>738320836What gen are people born in the 90's?
>>738321206Can't relate, when I was a kid I had patience for them. Now if I take more than 2 seconds to solve one I get extremely angry and have to look it up because I know some human filth on this site did it faster and I can't stand the idea of being worse at something than the worthless genetic sludge on here, and then it retroactively ruins the game for me forever because I can't unlearn the solution and the fact that I had to look it up and cheat sits like a splinter in my brain forever. Fuck whatever monstrous sociopath invented puzzles, they are nothing more than psychological torture devices.
>>738322298Feel free to fuck off then, you won't be missed. Reddit site, reddit universe.
>>738322464stick to the script retard
>>738321037desu I played Twilight Princess like this when I was 10 years old
>>738320836Honestly sounds completely made up
>>738322507I didn't tell you to talk back, I told you to fuck off. This isn't your site anymore, so leave instead of crying and shitting your diaper like the fat pathetic worthless manchild you are.
>>738322298You people are going to run the word Bot to the ground. You can't just call anyone who posts things you disagree with or dislike a bot. That's how we got people rolling their eyes at people pointing out irl Nazis.
>>738322251>linkArchive link.
>>738322464Go back.
>>738322589tell me with a serious face you don't think the other poster replying to me (above yours) isn't a bot besides, bot or indistinguishable from a bot, gets the same message acrossdead internet theory is not a theory >That's how we got people rolling their eyes at people pointing out irl Nazisfaggot
>>738321782I'm a stay at home mom so it's fine for me.
>>738322372Early 90s are late millennials, late 90s is early zoomers.
>>738322690You first.
>>738322708Huh that's funny. Doesn't align with what I play at all
>>738321638Listen and learn, technological incompetence is speaking
>>738322771see>>738322690
>>738322251>giving IGN hitsLeave and rethink your existence
>>738322841You first times infinity you petulant child. We own this place, go make your own site if you don't like it, bitch.
pretending you're retarded is how this shithole went to shit in the first place
>>738323242Thankfully I'm not merely pretending
I tried to play Diablo 2 as a Necromancer just winging it and partway into it I realized my build was dog shit awful so I just looked up the "correct" build and started having way more fun with it. Some games are just designed in that way where if you try to do your own unique thing it's a complete waste of time and not at all what the developers of the game intended. They wanted you to look up how to do stuff.
>>738323191see>>738322690
>>738323370Same happened to me but instead of looking it up someone told me in a random bnet game this is back when iron maiden was super overpoweredso I just put points into it and all of a sudden I was having a really easy time on my baby necromancer.
I like how IGN's youtube account has like 20+millions subs. . . all bots and kosher ally youtube knows this, even gives them more no doubt.I just hope devs don't fall for it and think these game journos have any influence, gamers don't care what they think.
>>738320836I have gen x/y/z/millenial/alpha/etc forever war fatigue.
>>738323638I have fatigue of zoomers fighting back instead of fucking off.
>>738323638>>738323708In reality a lot of zoomers enjoy millennial media, there's tons of zoomer youtube channels talking about 90's vidya, music, cartoons etc.
>>738323893>there's tons of zoomer youtube channels talking about 90's vidya, music, cartoons etc.You are absolutely fucking disgusting, stop posting where I can see it you loathsome sack of shit.
>>738323638you WILL participate in the kike artificial divide and you WILL hate on anyone younger for the next 30 years to win the generational infight while shitskins flood the world
>>738321037Awful
>stupid people interpreting large datasetsAlways amusing.
>>738320836link the fucking article next time fucking faggot
>>738323948What did I do wrong?!?!?!anonymous please give me another chance I thought were friends after all this time please don't defriend me......
>Generation war threadWow, there sure are a lot of these.
>>738321206i dont know man as a kid i felt like i was a fucking genius solving some of the shit in the early tomb raider games
>>738320836>>738321006What happened to playing for fun?>>738321402Yes, solving puzzles is a reward on it's own.
>IGNLiterally not video games.
>>738324936zoomers don't play video games for fun
>>738321006UNC's are making the build guides and keeping the bleeding edge broken not yet meta stuff to.themselves zoomzoom
>>738321037When I was a kid I’d always look up and use cheat codes. At least for me, challenge was something I only learned to enjoy later.
>>738321347Talent builds in every iteration of wow are brain-dead anyway if he was doing that then you definitely know he didn't even read any of them or think for 0.5 seconds
>>738325378Well it was challenge modes and the high end players use abnormal builds but they run meta comps and do crazy stuff.My cousin is really really bad so there was no way he could pull it off. I tried to talk him out of it but he wouldn't listen and then he felt bad because we had to basically run a weurd double healer (one hybrid focusing on heals with main healer) and cheese them to carry him through it.
>>738320836>Gen Z wants someone else to spoonfeed them the answers on how to play the game most efficientlyIt’s more grim than that.They’re playing f2p shit like Genshin, Destiny, or Warframe where determining if a piece of equipment is better or worse is genuinely difficult because of how obtuse the loot systems in those games are.
>>738321135Then why treat it like a job?
>>738321037>Im not wasting my timeDoes skibbidy blud know no one made him play an open world game?
>>73832120634 here, played a monkey island game for the first time a few weeks ago.Got absolutely booty blasted by the puzzle and ending up looking up a guide.
>>738321206I'm the opposite. I would sit down and figure it out in my youth, now I give it a few good tries and then look it up so I'm not burning up my limited amount of free time.
>>738321206>>738321402I don't look up puzzles. I just take a break before solving them. They just kill the pace of a games because they don't teach you anything about it in the action segments.
>>738328837theyre for fun
>>738321402It's a fucking Zelda game, the puzzles are the selling point. It woudl be like if you bought a crossword or sudoku book and just copied all the answers from the back. What the fuck is even the point?
>>738331792there are people that do this. the illusion of completing or liking these puzzles is more appealing to them then actually doing it for it's own sake.
I don't like missing content because odds are I'm not playing through a game twice
>>738321037The next "Zelda" "game" won't even have shrines or puzzles anymore. It'll just be 100 hours of walking in an empty grass field.
>>738322141the point of a game is being challenged. if you just skip all the parts that are challenging you're defeating the point. if you're skipping specifically the parts that challenge your IQ its a sign of low iq
>>738321037TotK's shrines are designed for 67 IQ Somalian children to complete. Your nephew may have brain problems.
>>738321135The entertainment comes from figuring it out by yourself, if you can't figure a puzzle why even play zelda?
>>738321037Yeah man, we had none of that in our time.
>>738321037Why do you guys think fucking everything is dogshit now? This is the core audience.
>>738336957because it is.
>>738320836>Falsified data to make you feel like you're out of the loop for not enjoying gay new features and trends
So did all of the millennials in this thread forget the formative experience of getting stuck on the island at the very start of Myst and dropping the game when they were 6?
>>738339456>at the very start of Myst and dropping the game when they were 6?no, I remember playing through the early levels on my own and then spending hours with my cousin on later puzzles to the point where my parents would yell at me to get off the phone.
>>738321006If you reach for the guide from the start, then you don't have the motivation to be competitive.
>>738322251What I don't get is the image literally says Gen X are the ones who google everything and anons immediately started crying about zoomers googling stuff. This board has gotten so fucking stupid.
>>738339456my parents didn't let me play games without guns
>>738321402Because dopamine when grug find the answer by himself feel good
>>738341368shut up, zoomer
>>738321402>over spending hours on a puzzle>he took hours on a Zelda puzzleHOW BRAINDEAD ARE YOU TO GET STUCK FOR ANYWHERE MORE THAN 10 MINUTES? YOU UTTER FUCKING LOSER
>>738337982I am surprised nobody is questioning the data.Because UC Berkley is Ground Zero for commie progressive fags who will pwn da chuds by lying, lying by omission and straight up make shit up to get back at people for voting the way they did not like.Any data or study's done by them should be taken with a Jupiter level side of salt.
>>738321037honestly i just completed the fire ship in ffv for the first time and got stuck because i assumed a piece of metal wasn't walkable. using a guide would have been better
>>738344202>I am surprised nobody is questioning the dataPeople here only do that when the data doesn't let them bitch about whatever they want to bitch about.
>>738321006Kek
>UC berkeley yeah im sure a study created by troon central will be very unbiased