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Play Alundra, you dumb sack of shit.
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looks like discount zelda
and for that reason im out
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I did and finished it getting all gilded falcons, to my dismay the game never explained why he has orange hair in the intro yet is blonde in game.
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>>738323063
One of my favourite games to this day, great OST too.
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>>738323243
It's actually premium Zelda.
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>>738323063
The Un Worked Designs patch only fixed the enemy HP blost and nerfs of drops localizers added, not the translation.
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Vastly superior in just about every way.
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What the fuck did they do with Alundra 2
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>>738323063
This, but only in original.

>>738323243
I liked it better than any 2d Zelda.

>>738323351
Shame.

>>738323419
>>738323478
Oh the duality. I am planning on playing it one day though. I will be out of old school JRPGs sooner or later.
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Why did they never make another one?
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My favourite saga is Zelda, but my favourite game is Alundra.
That's how good it is.
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>>738323564
Cant they just jump over the pit lol?
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>>738323419
>better than 1
Only if you're braindead.
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>>738323674
Wouldn't be fun.
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>>738323419
>>738323063
>Both games were published by Sony
I guess they'll both be on PSN eventually.
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>>738323063
i don't like non 3D zelda games and its clones, so no
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>>738323564
I would have enjoyed Alundra 2 more if it wasn't called Alundra
I don't think there's any connection between games at all
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>>738323674
You are being tricked by this game's ass perspective, that block that gets lowered is a wall, there is no pit to jump over on that side.
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>>738324053
Ah, perspective in Alundra.
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>>738324037
This game is actual ass though. It literally ran at like 5fps, despite being visually unimpressive even for its time.
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>>738324186
that looks really annoying
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In 2026, what's the best PSX emulator? Preferably with a nice set of CRT shaders.
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>>738323063
I already have several times, what this guy said. >>738323316
Play Alundra 2, it may not be a sequel in terms of plot or characters but it is a sequel in terms of the soul. I refuse to believe a single person has beaten the driving minigame though.
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>>738324372
Fortunately, it's only a problem in a couple of places.
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>>738324273
I checked some videos and holy shit, you're right. But it seems it runs fine on emulators.
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>>738324186
Reminds me of Legend of Oasis, also had those perspective issues.
Funny enough, that treasure chest looks nearly exactly like the ones in that game too.
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>>738323351
I never played that patch but honestly while a lot can be said about the localisation I feel like the game would be far too easy without those changes.
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>>738324504
This i can sort of see. The trees make it so that you are actually behind the platform.
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>>738324597
Legend of Oasis was a prequel to a Megadrive/Genesis game called Story of Thor/Beyond Oasis
Its pretty good, would recommend
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Is this game as good as ALTTP?
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>>738324273
>>738324591
I also just checked. What the fuck? How did somebody go
>Yeah, looks fine to me. Ship it.
???
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>>738324597
>>738324821
>Legend of Oasis
Doesn't look bad. I only wish Sega consoles had actually good emulators like Duckstation, new PCSX2 or Dolphin.
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>>738324186
platforming in top down games never goes well
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>>738324860
debatable
I wouldn't say its as polished, and its got LOCALISATION issues
But its darker in tone and I love the idea of entering peoples dreams to save them from nightmares and failing
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wait, you're telling me alundra is a zelda game except you have an elf wife with you?
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>>738323063
Finished my 6th playthrough like a month ago. got all life vessels but not gilded falcons, never ever getting all of them because fuck the casino. also if you like the adventures of alundra i recommend landstalker and dark savior
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>>738323063
I have, it's one of my favourite games.
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>>738325367
Also fuck the Ice Manor
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>>738325437
On the other hand, Alundra is one of very few JRPGs (another is Lufia 2 for example) that do puzzles right. Usually "puzzles" are "push a lever to open the door".
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>>738323063
i played it before on an emulator but i did not finish
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>>738325807
Okay, but why didnt the bomb work?
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>>738324273
Like the others said, yeah, it runs like ass. I remember seeing the box at a friend's house, but we never played it, stuck to Crash, Dragoon and Parappa. Wanted to see how the game was when I saw your pic, but now I don't want to play it.
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>>738323063
Thanks for the recommendation.
Is this an officially licensed product, by the way? Wouldn't want to play some unlicensed schlock.
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>>738324037
make way for the better Monkey King video game
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>>738323564
>Oh the duality
trilogy*
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>>738324504
the shade of the sides seems to tell you the height and that they aren't the same, pretty vague though and doesn't work for
>>738324186
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>>738323063
>constant dialog interruptions
>linear as shit
>boring combat
>unfun puzzles
>borderline monotone use of color
Never saw the appeal of this game.
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>>738324186
>>738324504
Now I want a 3DS port.
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>>738323063
I'm going to shit on it so hard if I don't enjoy it
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>>738327902
Landstalker, my beloved.
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>>738323478
It's Alundra only by name, nothing to do with it.
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I liked alundra, but it's also annoying and I don't think I would have liked it much if I played it on console without savestates. maybe the unworking designs patch would have alleviated that, but even without all the hp changes, some of the platforming is still annoying too
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>>738329454
Don't forget about this:
https://www.romhacking.net/hacks/6649/
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>>738329554
It has the same composer and style of dungeon design. It helps to just think of it like Final Fantasy or to a lesser extent Zelda.
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I've played Alundra like 4 times and never beat it. The final boss is terrible. Landstalker also becomes shit near the end.
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I did play it. When I was a kid. The game was way too fucking hard for a kid.
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>>738329905
How big of a difference are we talking? I usually like playing my games unmodded the first time through, even if it's a localization issue
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>>738330372
No idea, I only played the Japanese version, but from what I heard enemies are sponges.
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>>738323063
I was disappointed to know you were just visiting people's dreams as dungeons. I was expecting more exploration given how you started on sea. Also, most of the dungeons color palette are all almost identical. Got really bored with the game half way in.
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>>738330593
Maybe I'll give it 15 minutes with both versions just to compare. Thanks for the tip
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>>738329905
>install patch that makes the game easier
Why?
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>>738324383
Duckstation
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>>738330814
Because that's the original author's vision. The patch removes fanfiction changes made by lolcalizers. Sadly, it only fixes gameplay, not text.
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>>738330919
what if I care about actual gameplay? "original author" isn't infallible, sometimes their intent was shit and needed an editor to hone the edge.
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>>738330919
>Because that's the original author's vision.
You're the reason why gaming sucks now a days.
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>>738330593
In my case I've only played in English without the patch but the only enemies that felt particularly tough to kill were ones that made sense like the rock turtles, and even then it just encouraged me to use other tools like bombs, boxes or the spells. I can't imagine how much easier it must be when it already wasn't too tough minus a few of the later bosses.
>>738330610
The game shifts between exploring the real world and going into people's dreams as it progresses. You have to go to a real place to get the book about going into dreams as the first main dungeon in the first place.
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>>738331338
Then you're free to keep hitting a boss for 10 minutes instead of 5. You can also use Cheat Engine to increase their HP 10 times, so you can keep hitting him for 1.5 hours. More HP = better gameplay, after all.

>>738331416
>devs surrender to people who want mini-maps, markers, easy modes, fast travel, yellow paint and so on
>"it's your fault for wanting to play games as the author meant them to be played"
Woah.
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>>738330372
if you've never heard of working designs, they were an old localization company in the 90s and the fucking HATED video game rentals. so to combat that, they would increase the health and damage of enemies in the games they translated so that way they'd be hard as balls and you wouldn't be able to beat them during the week you rented it. in alundra's case, basically every enemy has at least 50% more hp than in the jp version, sometimes more, and sometimes they'd buff their attack too. it's bad
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>>738331723
I hope you don't enjoy the James Bond movies, because they edited and changed stuff from the books. I hope you don't enjoy the 80s Scarface movie, because it's not a perfect remake of the 30s Scarface. I hope you have never seen a version of Shakespeare's plays that weren't in early modern English. I hope you haven't read the Bible in anything other than Hebrew.

it's only video game and anime nerds that are autistic about "muh creator's intent"
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>>738331737
I didn't have a console back then, so I guess I'm out of the loop. It's funny how localizers have been some of the worst people for all these years
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>>738331893
Translation of a work into another language isn't adaptation. Adaptation is in a way a reimagining, and it can't not be since it's a change from one medium to another.
And I do read books in original language when I can.
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>>738331909
working designs is also infamous for their "localizations" just being entirely made up. in alundra there's a dude named Bonaire (get it? boner???) and he speaks like a stoner surfer dude just because the devs saw his portrait and thought "this guy looks like he smokes weed". desu I will admit it's funny and I wish more games could have fun like this, but I also think it should be like, an optional "shit translation" toggle or something
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>>738331737
Yet unironically they made the game better by doing that. Dungeons actually feel dangerous.
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>>738332207
>spoiler
Try knights of xentar, its hilarious
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>>738323063
I've played it and liked it. Entering people's dreams is neat. The Wind That Shook the Earth is a banger.
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I don’t play shit consoles.
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>>738331909
>It's funny how localizers have been some of the worst people for all these years
My personal "favorite" from Vay.
>In the Japanese version of the game, Sirufa (whose Japanese name, シルフ, would be better rendered as "Sylph") is a fairy who controls the wind. Before recruiting Rachel, talking to her causes the party to "ride the wind" to Coryan, while visiting her after getting Rachel sends the party to Magmal Isle. That's it.
>In the US version, Sirufa's dialogue has been rewritten. Now, her wind powers are due to a bet she lost with an unexplained "Thaldar", as a result of which she "received the curse of eternal seimic flatulence." This is then used to create a mechanic whereby, if Sirufa's teleportation is used without having all party members equipped with "Filtration Masks", the unequipped members will be "overcome by the noxious fumes" and remove the rest of the party's masks before dying, causing an instant game over.
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>>738332095
it is an adaptation. by definition. by your own definition. if for no other reason than because (with few exceptions) no language can be 1:1 directly translated into another. Even within the same language, different phrases and words can mean different things depending on the cultural origin of the person reading them. Someone from London England would never truly be able to understand the identity and themes of Huck Finn, because they're not from the South so they don't get the unspoken elements of Southern culture that permeate the characters and world in it.
this goes doubly so for translating a language, even in your head. this is why Japs won't ever consider you truly Japanese even if you're on the surface fluent in the language. everything is adaptations and interpretations.
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>>738332495
Based localizers adding lore snd nuance
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>>738331893
The other anon is being a bit of a retard by overblowing the difference between hitting a slime 3 times instead of 5 times while ignoring all the charge attacks and spells and shit that would go unused, in this instance the change is an improvement HOWEVER literally everyone in every medium either actively or passively cares about the intent of the original creator because authenticity in that regard matters, it's what led to the creation of that story in the first place. It's videogames and anime that have seen massive amount of egregious rewrites and vandalism poisoning the mediums and process entirely, that should be indefensible yet captured people mindlessly do. It's something that has to end fascism sooner rather than later as they've abused this too far for too long.
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>>738332095
so, in other words, I redirect you to my original sardonic quip: I sure hope you don't enjoy the Bond movies, or the Universal monster movies, or Dragon Ball, or any film adaptation of Shakespeare, or any version of the Bible not written in ancient Hebrew. because otherwise you're getting an alternate adaptation that takes those stories away from the "original author's intent".
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>>738332296
>translation so bad that even though it wasn't done by them, the wikipedia article still manages to reference working designs
gatdam
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>>738332685
>>738332810

>author intent, authenticity
are buzzwords, not arguments.
>vandalism, poisoning the medium, fascism
are emotionally-driven personal attacks, not arguments. you're stating your personal opinions as if they're universal truths. You can't just say "it's bad", you have to make an argument as to why. You have to explain why the 'original intent' is preferable, you can't just assume it is inherently good. that was my point with my film and book examples, there are many cases where changes and edits to the original story are seen as improvements. stop worshipping the ephemeral "creator" and judge the story on its own merits, decide for yourself which is better and why.
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>>738332495
That's actually worse than the fan translation of Tales of Phantasia, where they go from the innocent "Arche is a wild one" to "I bet Arche fucks like a tiger"
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>>738323063
i rented it like 3 times as a kid and tried to find a copy to buy but never could

i was too low IQ to finish it though
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>>738323063
No, I will play Alundra after I finish the Wild Arms series. Thank you.
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>>738323063
played this until the miner's dream but it didn't really hold my attention
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>>738323063
Play landstalker instead
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>>738333127
>he doesn't know about the Yunyun situation where they translated "yamero" as "end fascism"
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>>738334423
my point remains.
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>>738323564
>>738323818
>"zelda but not"
>it's actually mario superstar saga but not
Notice how the only time other devs make good games is when they copy nintendo lmao
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So has anyone done a proper translation of this yet?
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>>738334630
03 comes before 97 so this post sounds reasonable to me
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It shouldn't be, but it's still shocked to me how much better the discussions in a thread are when the topic filters nu-/v/ faggots.
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>>738324981
I love the idea of Spyro on the go but those GBA games were abysmal for that
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>>738323243
I love Alundra but could never get into Zelda for some reason. I even played and finished Alundra 2 and couldn't get through Ocarina of Time.
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>>738329905
>not just the cdr prepatched version
Shiggy
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Murgg
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The older I get the more I realize that not every game has to be a mindbending 10/10 masterpiece. Often times a 7/10 game that plays well and is captivating is all you need. Alundra is such a game for me.
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>>738330206
Kids deserve hard games. Easy handholdy games are for mature adults.
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>>738323063
I already did. Quite a messed up game, people dying in their sleep and shit.
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>>738323063
make sure to play the translated jp version. the english version has fucked up balancing to make it way more tedious
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>>738334781
that one banjo and kazooie game on gba had serious perspective issues too
still fun tho
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>>738331338
>>738331416
Least gay localizer dicksuckers
>>738331893
This is the kind of person who thinks a remaster and a remake are the same thing
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>>738335045
Its okay to be retard
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>>738335098
>unsolicited gay fantasies
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tell me about the elf wife
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>>738332207
Kek'd, he's a surfer dude in the French translation, I thought it made sense since he lived near the beach
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>>738331737
>>738332495
>people back in the day thought the west couldn't handle hard games
>turns out we were always playing kaizo mode
FUCK JAPAN
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>>738331737
dont forget one other game where they changed some random treasure chest from being empty to it sucking all your gold away for teh funnies xdxd
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>>738335045
>>738323351
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>>738334423
The intent behind both is the same in context so it still works.
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>>738335330
I'll take actually fun game mechanics over the gay Xseed Trails chests
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>>738323063

HOLY FUCKING BASED

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltUV7X_hnyg

HOLY FUCKING SOUL
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>>738323316
i tried, multiple times.
i don't find it very good.
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>>738323063
>tfw used a walkthrough for the last dungeon
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>>738335292
Not always. You wouldn't believe how retardedly hard the original Legend of Dragoon was. Spells dealt way lower damage, all enemies including bosses had higher stats and HP +30-50%.
Webm related. I start a boss fight with full health, I'm not underleveled. When I can finally move for the first time, one character is dead and two barely alive. No, this isn't one of those "can't win" fights. If you die, it's game over.
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>>738334910
yeah internet discourse these days means everything has to be the best thing every or irredeemable dosgshit with nothing inbetween. and there's a similar problem with everything now being AAAA billion dollar games or gamejam indie experiences. the best games were those 7-9 out of 10 AA games made by a small group of decently talented designers and artists with a vision. but those are a rare and dying breed these days...
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>>738335758
PS1 and PS2 had the best special attacks in the JRPG genre
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Alundra's good, but you need to apply a patch to remove all the stupid changes Working Designs made to the enemies' HP.
Unfortunately, there aren't any patches to fix the rest of the mess they made in their attempt to ruin the game.
It's also recommended to play on an emulator because the transitions between screens take forever for some reason, but on the emulator you can set a key to speed up the game by 3X, and every time you enter a transition, you press the key and solve the game's biggest problem.
There's a section near the end where you have to jump on some frozen lava balls that's outrageous, and I say to use a fucking save state there without mercy.

Finally, Alundra's one of countless examples of great games from the 32-bit era that's largely forgotten because the American autists talking about video games today only had the terrible Nintendo 64 when they were kids.
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>>738334527
It's difficult to fairly judge a story on its own merits when you don't get the actual story you originally wanted to pay for while another wildly version is floating around, and it's equally difficult, though not impossible as I prefer the Alundra balance changes, for people unconnected to the original development to make changes that will improve it. The issue is not with your point necessarily but that it does not take into account the scale of the situation with these games and how absurd and universally rejected many changes are, we are too far beyond that which is why the very concept has been poisoned. When people do judge what they get and dislike it the response is often one of gaslighting and abuse, which gets worse when they learn how different from the original it has been and these people just actively state their intention is not improvement at all.
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>>738323634
?
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>>738335586
UH!
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>>738323634
They more or less made a spiritual successor with Dual Hearts, but that one is more of a mix of Alundra 1 and a 3D collectathon platformer.
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>>738336118
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>>738335214
She had a hard life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf53sBB39kc
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>>738335943
Its a 2D game nigga wht the fuhk? Finna for those polygons turned into polyarrived.
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>>738335586

This guy gets it.
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>>738333127
>are emotionally-driven personal attacks
No, you retard. They're metaphors for very specific actions, you fucking troglodyte.
Vandalism refers to the alteration of the original work by someone who lacks the necessary qualifications.
Poisoning the medium refers to the introduction of external iudes into a medium, .These ideas will create conflict among media consumers, something that wasn't present in the original.

>stop worshipping the ephemeral "creator" and judge the story on its own merits
If you're not 13 years old, please never comment on art again. Your opinion is an embarrassment to humanity.
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>>738335969
>originally wanted to pay for
you didn't know the Japanese script was different until years later. you bought the game because of western advertising and/or because your western friend who played the western release said it was good.

my point was, the 'rejection of the changes' or more specifically the arguments presented are almost exclusively used by weebs to critique western changes to Japanese media. critiques made by people who almost universally have not played the original, and either assume it's superior because "Japan=good" or because they are making a culture war stance of "I hate the change on principle because I don't trust the people making the changes to be on 'my side' politically". it's almost never an objective critique of the changes themselves; a judgement on whether they improve or spoil the game.
that's why I brought up the Bond books, because the films make wild changes to the books (and in some cases like Moonraker have nothing to do with the original book at all) and yet nobody cares. or if they do, they usually agree the films were improvements.

let me put it to you another way: Assume a reality where the WD version of the game was the original release, and the Japanese version was the edit. would you still support the Japanese version as the superior release? or would you switch to saying the WD version was superior?
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>>738336534
>blah blah you're a big bad evil badman blah blah
rich of you to call me a child when you can't articulate a single argument without justifying your stance exclusively with personal attacks and opinion presented as fact.
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>>738323063
>working designs
no thanks!
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>>738332207
Tenchu: Wrath of Heaven on PS2
After beating the game you unlocked an option for b-side audio which replaced all the serious dialogue with jokes
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>>738323419
It killed the ip
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>>738336785
Nta but localization hate always came off as performative and insincere to me.
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>le religion is actually bad!
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>>738337158
my argument is very much not in support of Working Designs' changes. I am arguing from outside of the West vs Japan paradigm and instead imploring people to think about WHY they take the stances they do, and challenging them to make a more complete and thoughtful argument.
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>>738337168
Imagine if you went to a remote village and they had some strange religion which killed everyone
Resident Evil 4 is a clown show
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>>738323063
I did, The Wind that Shook the Earth is still living rent free in my head, and I want more. Why are there so few good Zelda clones?
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>>738337158
You've never played Streets of Rage 3?
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>>738337042
hell yeah. the only other one I can kinda think of is earthworm jim 3d, but that's just an option for dialogue that's totally nonsense
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Alundra has the fault I don't think THAT highly of Zelda games, if I played a Zelda game first I would probably think otherwise, but after playing Alundra I didn't feel like any 2D Zelda game was that good in comparison, only Minish Cap came near it
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>>738337459
>I am arguing from outside of the West vs Japan paradigm
Yet:
>>738336785
>are almost exclusively used by weebs to critique western changes to Japanese media.
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>>738334423
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>>738323063
There's an Alundra cameo in that Astrobot game.
My stupid and hopeful ass thought that meant they'd be porting it up or getting a remake.
Fuckin' wrong. Apparently, they're intent on remembering it, but letting it rot.
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>>738337521
I'm gonna be honest, beat em up is a pure slop genre. Musou is marginally better for being the same thing but in 3D and with more attack options but in general both of them are mindless trash that's really only fun with friends and/or in the arcade. I like SoR music but the games never captured my attention for more than a few minutes playing solo.
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>>738337819
those are not incongruent statements. the second statement is a critique of the justification for the argument, not the argument itself. I'm sorry you're too low-IQ to be able to understand the difference, I assumed better of you.
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>>738337910
I mean astrobot was just a big collection of "hey look, don't you remember when we used to make games?" with no intention to do anything else with them. rip my boy intelligent qube
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>>738337910
You must be new to modern gaming callbacks if you think cameos mean anything more than "remember this? now buy new worse product."
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>>738338072
The point being, SoR3 was hilariously butchered during localisation
It cut a boss and secret playable character because of homophobia
It then changed a characters white t-shirt to yellow, because white t-shirts are gay
It fucked the difficulty into orbit, the easiest difficulty being harder than the original hardest difficulty
But then you also cannot actually beat the game unless you are playing on hardest, it'll let you get to say, end of stage 4 and then tell you to fuck off and play on a higher difficulty
Also, the game originally had a story, and they cut all of it
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>>738331893
Dishonest faggot
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>>738338463
>that doesn't count because it wasn't made by Grorius Nippon and folded over 1000 times!
this is precisely what I'm talking about
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There was a colloquium when the complete works of Plato were first translated into some obscure language. The main guest was the translator himself.
He began by noting that while he is the first the translate the complete works, some have been translated before by others. He noted two schools of thought: one which sought to localize them, to make it seem like the dialogues could have hapoened in the society in which translations were read. This was the older school, from works of which he cites amusing examples of common Greek phrases but translated into anachronistic proverbs.
The other school is more philosophical, attempting to present the Plato's conception of the world, in its full particularity. A method to achieve this might be leaving words like "logos" and "polis" untranslated. A translator in this school would yhink very carefully even sbout grammatical particals, making sure that their connotations and implications are the same as in Ancient Greek, and adding a translator's note to mark if he thinks he was not able to find an exact match. He makes an example of how to translate hosios: faithful, godly, or pious, and explains why he chose the word he did.
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>>738336785
I've made it pretty clear I was not speaking about Alundra specifically but reflecting on an overall trend that has been far more actively destructive over time rather than constructive while misguided. You've made a vast amount of assumptions not just about me but about several hundred thousands of people that may dislike changes that are made, many of which are fully and increasingly aware of the differences. It's not "Japan=good", it's "origin=Japan" which is advertised by the inherent nature of the product and not something simply quantifiable as better or worse by one person. It's also very ironic of you to invoke the culture war considering you have it backwards. People who dislike western changes do so for a wide variety of reasons yet it is the consistently stated goal of a vast majority of localisers that are specifically injecting modern day politics and agendas to take that culture war stance. That in itself is why any objective critiques of the changes seem hard to come by or are rejected despite them very much happening, because the atmosphere has been made too caustic by brushing critiques off that way. This in turn is what actually fuels the image that any so called change, even if it's to more accurately convey the original, is a net negative.
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>>738336872
You've taken the idea of separating the author from the work so far off the mark that the only appropriate response is to curse you.

The original idea in a civilized world is that works speak for themselves. The author becomes irrelevant once the work's been published, and from then on, it's the work alone that has the final say, not the author.
This is different from saying that the author doesn't matter. Yes, someone can improve another person's work... a good writer can take a book written by an inexperienced teenager and turn it into something better, but now you're no longer talking about the same work.
That's why your argument makes no sense at all. You're literally saying that the very subject of the discussion doesn't matter.
So yes, the original creator of Alundra does matter.

Summaru: If you want to judge Alundra, you need to judge the original product, not modified versions. That's why someone who speaks fluent Japanese will ALWAYS have more authority to critique Alundra than someone who doesn't speak Japanese and has only had access to the "vandalized" Working Designs version (metaphor).
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We need more Landstalker/Alundra-likes. There are too many Zelda rip offs. This is the only one I've found and it doesn't look amazing.
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>>738323243
Zelda is discount Alundra LMAO it's literally in the name

A-lundra (TOP score)
Z-elda (DEAD last)
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>>738323351
I'm so glad i started learning japanese during covid and never stopped.
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>>738337910
It's unfortunate but it's probably for the best, fellow Jack bro.
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>>738323419
It's fun but not really comparable.
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>>738324186
That's some landstalker/equinox tier bullshit. But in those games it makes sense because it's isometric, in Alundra, that's just the developers being dicks on purpose.
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>>738323063
alundra is the nortubel of the playstation 1
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first dialogue in the game btw
working designs
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>>738324821
The megadrive game is awful.
It has excellent graphics but that's about it. The gameplay and music are terrible.
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>>738324383
Mednafen/beetle in retroarch.
Mednafen has been the gold standard for years.

If you use duckstation you'll just be back here tomorrow asking why it doesn't work properly.
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>>738325807
Yeah but in Lufia 2 every puzzle is just "push the blocks in a specific order".
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>>738332207
>getting hit by the filter
Twitter tourist nigger. Twigger.
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>>738338643
my argument is equally applicable to any game, or movie, or book, or food or whatever has some emotionally-driven fanbase. Alundra is just the current topic of the thread.

>>738338652
no. my stance is "what is more enjoyable". simple as. the argument you just presented is "you need to be a professional chef before you can decide if a restaurant cooked a good meal".
I do not see 'author intent' as a valid argument in itself. the author is not infallible, their vision on its own does not make a work good or bad. whether the work itself is good or bad determines whether the work is good or bad.
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>>738330372
In this instance, unmodded would be playing it WITH the unworked patch.
Because working designs modded the jap version and made it worse.

The patch reverts it back to its original state, in other words, its original unmodded state.
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>>738339068
caring about getting hit by that particular filter is pretty onions behavior dude
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>>738338920
Someone over there liked sissy boys, Popful mail has that shoved in somewhere too
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>>738332215
kys
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>>738339195
>talking like a twitter nigger is acceptable because... IT JUST IS OKAY?????
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>>738333293
>where they go from the innocent "Arche is a wild one" to "I bet Arche fucks like a tiger"
I've seen the original line in japanese from that scene.
It's basically the same as the fan translated one except it's simply not as crude, but the meaning is the same. They're talking about how arche seems sweet and innocent but you can just tell she's dirty as hell in bed.
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>>738338652
let me put it another way, since I saw a good comparison my >food analogy.
imagine a chef makes a soup, and another chef tastes it and decides it needs salt so adds some salt to it. your argument is the soup is ruined not because it tastes worse, but because the original chef's intent was changed by another chef. My argument is that you should decide whether the soup tastes better or not on its own, because you as the diner should only care about how the soup tastes.
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>>738331338
Who decides what the """intent""" is.
You may as well change every single game if you're gonna use copout excuses like that.
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>>738339290
>non-NPC: “BECAUSE….B-BECAUSE IT LE JUST IS, literally this! But unironically! Kino, soul, gemmy, keyed, sneed, s0!, cope, dilate, go back, I look like this I say this, TRVVVVKE, fippy bippy kwabby patty, shiggy diggy my niggy!>>738339303
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>>738339364
why should I care about what the intent is at all? this is the point you and nobody else has ever actually tried to make. you assume I should care just because. My concern is playing fun games. if the changes make the game more fun, then I support it. if they make the game less fun, then I don't support them. it is not a sports team rivalry where you have to pick a side and stick with it, judge the changes on their own merits.
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>>738338406
Damn that is fucked lol
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>>738339410
Yeah. Thank you for admitting that it's cancer.
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>>738339651
>IT JUST IS
Basedjak strawmanning is electiontourist faggotry, I don’t know why you act like you have a moral high ground on this.
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>>738339290
teebeeaych is as old as 4chan man
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>>738339738
>mad faggot is mad about being called out
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>>738339761
No it's not. Moot put in a bunch of filters because retards were acting like they were on black twitter.
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>>738338687
Name? 4chanX broke webm names for some reason.
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>>738339906
Antediluvial Yalroc Island on Steam.mp4
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>>738339769
>gay tripping, is gay XD
Yeah dude, this is sparta.
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>>738339103
>"you need to be a professional chef before you can decide if a restaurant cooked a good meal"
That's much closer to your argument than his, as you claimed those who are against changes made by malicious actors are largely doing so from a position of ignorance and assumptions. Even if someone simply did feel "japan=good", then it would be more enjoyable for them to have the game reflect its original state as opposed to being changed in post to remove the "japanese" parts, what people enjoy is always going to depend on personal tastes. If the author is not infallible, the localiser certainly is not either, and the issue is when they take the decision of whether the work itself is good or bad away from you altogether and then antagonize everyone for it. The "what is more enjoyable" stance just doesn't reflect where we are now as long as people like that are active, as it reduces the range and variety of enjoyable games for everyone.
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>>738340048
Prove me wrong.
Don't bother, you can't.
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Would someone watch if i play this game on real hardware? :3c
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>>738323419
man, the times i had as a kid on my ps1. only had alundra 2, among other hundreds of pirated game copies, and boy was it a weird game. i enjoyed it a lot. i can totally see how anyone that wanted more of 1 and got 2, would be upset lmao
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>>738323063
this looks like shit thanks but no thanks boomer
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>>738339819
here's a wayback capture of urban dictionary from 2005 showing teebeeaych defined as "to be honest" dated from 2003. it's an old abbreviation and you are a gullible dipshit who believes what /pol/ tells you. https://web.archive.org/web/20050323222134/https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=desu
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>>738335586
Is there a full orchestrated version of The Wind that Shook the Earth available, similar to the piece heard during the ending scene?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z43j17ytXsI&t=360s
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>>738339290
Typing as you do and doing and words is way faggier than any wordfiltered acronym imo. I guess it's technically more aligned with the general mentality here, but generally I think that people should write normally plus some casual slurs.



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