>Bethesda shits itself over this game's mere existence
replace giga with a tranny then it'll be accurate
>Troonout: Neo Vagina
>>738324232ave amicus
its crazy they had only ~18 months to make that game but somehow its still better than bethesda slop
>>738324342>>738324353good morning sirsfallout 3 is best sirs
>>738324470Well they Bethesda slaves built the whole engine for themAll they had to do was writing good stuff in droves and implement better gameplay, make the map, RPG mechanics and so on
>>738324517best fallout game is one not made by Cuckthesda actually
>>738324232So does Obsidian, even with infinite budget they wouldn't be able to replicate it because the studio's full of shitters now.
>300+ posts 100+ shitposting images thread It's been a while.
>>738324710Yep all Obsidian old timers moved on or retired afterwardsFNV is Obsidian's swan song, they put everything they had into it
>>738324232>there is now undeniable proof that bethesda hates Fallout NV after years of people saying todd loves it and that it was just a conspiracy
>>738324785I'll start.
>>738324815The same could be said for BGS, TES5 was their best selling and fan favorite game. Theresa alot of riding on TES6 especially after how bad 76 and Starfield turned out.
>>738324825>undeniable proof that bethesda hates Fallout NVqrd?
>>738324825It's hilarious how they completely botched and flanderized everything about New Vegas in the show, out of spiteTodd really thinks he did something there and got his revenge by slaughtering the materialBut in fact it's just funny as shit seeing Todd and Bethesda shitting their pants and screeching about NV after 15 fucking yearsNot only that but the show also ruins Fallout 1-2 lore
>>738324825There is literally no proof Bethesda hates New Vegas>Every company has a debrief where they make a powerpoint>Bethesda Corporate were bitches about it as all corporate divisions are about everything, no sign they actually hated the game existing and the actual Bethesda devs loved it and were friends with the Obsidian team, constantly offered them pointers and some even went to work for obsidian>The most evidence is Chris claiming someone at bethesda bragged they convinced Todd to make FNV happen and that Todd was against it at first
>>738324232Are jeets all faggots? Legitimate question here.
>>738325119Yes they like Fallout 3
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>>738324954TES VI will disappoint, they just have too much debt, both creative and technical, accumulated over the years and it's impossible to solve with their current developers (all of the senior positions full of middle-aged wastrels).
>>738324876I never played FO3 until a few years later after NV. I think FO3 is boring and unfun compared to TES series. NV was kind of new to me when i could just kill anyone after being used to TES4. Said deaths resulted in quest failures. I wish TES6 can be more open with that instead of being railroaded.FO4 tried harder but it's not there yet outside of faction choices.
>>738325023>>738324825Chris Avellone said Bethesda made Obsidian watch a powerpoint after the final DLC of FNV came out saying everything that they felt Obsidian did wrong and why they probably wouldn't work with them again, and Chris said they made valid points about bugs, the poor playstation performance, poor metacritic scores on things like Dead Money's frustrating gameplay, and the bad launch. As well as claiming responsibility for the bored sounding voice actors like General Oliver and that they absolutely easily could have fixed those and a stubborn lead on the team said "Players wont care, dont worry about it"Bethesda also had given them the option to ask their team for more help on world design and Feargus Urquhart said no, and also refused to give FNV's source code to Bethesda for extra money purely out of personal spite, spiting the team's desires
>>738325240>NV was kind of new to me when i could just kill anyone after being used to TES4. Said deaths resulted in quest failures. I wish TES6 can be more open with that instead of being railroaded.This shit is so goodIt feels so great when a RPG respects your intelligence and gives you complete freedom over who lives and who dies, even if it will break a lot of quests
>>738325345>Bethesda complaining about bugs in New VegasKek the sheer nerveLiterally the pot calling the kettle black.
>>738325221Disappointing for people who expect every single good things from every other "RPGs" in the last 15+ years. I expect TES but with more choices than previous titles when it comes to quests/factions. Gameplay in general will be smoother but still arcadey and you can't fuck up melee weapons and armors the way you can fuck it up with Fallout 4 equipment which is ugly and retarded.
>>738325345>Dead Money's frustrating gameplayImagine getting filtered by such kino
I had this game installed on my computer. Decide to launch it. Shit doesn't support my 3440x1440 resolution. Google search shows I have to do some tweaking and stuff. Fuck that shit. Went back to mindless scrolling and Youtube.I didn't uninstall it, but god do I have zero will to tweak shit like that. Even had to do it for Elden Ring, and apparently DS3 too (haven't done it yet cause it supposedly uses another method that ER... which I have zero will to fucking learn).
>>738324232I don't see why they would. It's a shitty open world action game on par with their own pieces of shit
>>738325119Worse. Pedo.
>>738325526>I expect TES but with more choices than previous titles when it comes to quests/factions.What on earth makes you think that? Emil's a complete retard and he's not going anywhere. And the guy responsible for Far Harbor left.
>>738324232I made my own mod to make Veronica straight. she's the best girl who loves men. I also destroyed the brotherhood of steel.
>>738325375It didn't break quests, the game just failed them back to back. It should not even show up so that the player doesn't save scum like a fag. Deaths being more of a " i killed him because i wanted to" without thinking and seeing possible quests failing on your screen.Makes forum discussion more interesting when anon find an pussy slayer 666 sword because he didn't kill mcfag.
the worst thing about fallout NV is how broken it is
>>738325698>F4 Far Harbor completely untouched by Hackliarulo>It turns out to be actual good content, far above whatever happened with the base gameAt this point I'm convinced I would do a better job than this hack, and I'm not a professional writer at all
>>738325840It's still way more stable than Fallout 3Especially considering the best way to play Fallout 3 these days is through TTW
>>738325698Base Fallout 4 had more options for quests than TES5 even with the retarded writing and yes no ? sarcastic options.Choices were in gameplay and deciding who to kill or side with or just off'ing quest giver on sight when possible.
>>738324825I doubt he was lying about liking NV. It's just that NV was supposed to be something to occupy the masses while Bethesda worked on Skyrim and when it and Fallout 4 (later down the line) released it was supposed to fade into obscurity. It didn't and it continues to run circles around everything bethesda has and will ever write and it made Todd lose his shit
This game's dialogues are just too based
>>738325345>Dead Money's frustrating gameplaylmao bethesda can only wish they could make interesting DLC's like dead money. just look at fallout 4. the only decent dlc ist Far Harbor
>>738325345>filtered by dead moneyi feel like the only difference between someone who enjoyed DM and someone who didn't seems to be if they found out they could shoot radios or not
>>738324342>>738324353Perfect glowie programming.
>>738325840Try playing OWB on the PS3. Worst experience i've ever forced myself thru. DLC was bad but crashes every 15 minutes making it 0/10.
>>738325043>the show also ruins Fallout 1-2 loreThat was the point. Now only fallouts made by Bethesda stand and are considered "canon"
tranny thread
>>738325947It's crazy how New Vegas is 15 years old yet there are still regularly debates about factions and politics and characters here, on reddit or any other forumIt just speaks volume to how good the worldbuilding and writing of that game is
>>738325979I was raging in DM because of the radios and playing it at 20fps on the PS3 too lmao.
>>738325043i unironically prefer when vidya movies or shows follow an alternate universe or timelinesome people say it "ruins" it, i honestly think the opposite, it gives people a chance to play the videogames and have a better experience
>>738324517NV is actually a troon killing game. Troon who self inserting into NV literally only mocked themselves since Tabitha is a nightkin, supermutant variant (who cant breed) and has brain damage (from using too many stealthboys). And the reason they use stealthboy? Because they are afraid to be seen.Moreover they are all bald and ugly kekw.
>>738326056Played New Vegas when I was a dumb teenager and only had a PS3I know that pain, I had to abandon my playthrough because it took literal minutes to save/load, loading times, and also my companions would just disappear from the gameThe sheer joy I felt when launching New Vegas on a brand new PC years later with every mod possible to enhance the game's performance, restore cut content, new content and whatnot is unmatched to this day
>>738326284if I needed lip lifters I also wouldn't want to be seen
>>738326139>TES4 in 2006-07(PS3)>Fallout 3 in 2009>Fallout NV in 2010>TES5 in 2011 All this happened during the golden age of 7th gen systems. Now we has no gaems to play.FromSoft is the only one being consistent if you don't play niggerball or CoD.
The saddest thing about all of this is that today's Obsidian wouldn't make NV as close to great as it was even when given years. All the people who worked in the industry who were responsible for making these games good have either died, left or became compromised
>>738326315I actually did everything on one save file but never used any energy weapons because death piles bloated the save data even more because they were permanent iirc.
>>738326457The good thing is that New Vegas modding community is more alive than ever, there are always some big DLC expansion-like mods coming outI said it on other threads but I recommend you anons try Long 15 - NCR Expansion, and Dry Wells - Legion Expansion mods, it's quality work with professionally voiced characters, tons of choices in quests, good writing overallNew Vegas is the gift that keeps on giving
>>738326542>The saddest thing about all of this is that today's Obsidian wouldn't make NV as close to great as it was even when given years. All the people who worked in the industry who were responsible for making these games good have either died, left or became compromisedthe more time passes, the more I think NV was a happy accidenti'm fine with that though
>>738326542New Vegas is a one in a million kind of game
>>738326213Nothing wrong with it if it stays separate but the show is intended to write a new, bethesda approved canon.
>>738326586Dude, the NV mods is exactly what made NV a shitposting subject since "The Frontier" or whatever happened. Every single lgbt fag is also on PC version for whatever reason.
I'll be honest, the Fallout show revealing the NCR ranger made me holler irl. But literally NOTHING from the Bethesda games would make me do the same if they appeared in the show. Like if Maximus hops out a Vertibird and there's a huge crescendo as he fucking throws back his coat to pose or some shit I'm rolling my eyes. If Preston fucking Garvey comes out of nowhere with a laser musket snipe to save the day, I'm groaning. Guess fucking why.
>>738326748The two mods I'm talking about in my post are not autistic, and are actually vanilla friendlyIt just expands on the 2 region that you visit after nuking them in LonesomeExcept those mods allow you to visit and do plenty of quests there before that happensBest part is that it gives you well needed Legion contentWe don't talk about the Frontier, it's shitty fanfic by edgy retardsThe big project I'm looking forward a lot now, is Nova Arizona, basically a huge Legion expansion, taking place across the Colorado river, as Obsidian originally intended, but never got to make it at allWith of course voiced quests and allMade by the same guys from Long 15 and Dry Wells
>>738326864>Preston Garvey appears and tell the ragtag group he'll mark something on their map My sides would be gone and i didn't watch the show.
>>738326980Road*
>>738326542FNVs lead writer John Gonzalez actually returned to Obsidian last year and so did a few other FNV devsAlso I know I'm in a minority here, but Outer Worlds 2 would have been a much bigger success if it hadn't released in the culture war era
>>738326980Isn't counter intuitive to also work on FO4NV "remaster" unofficially while still making big projects on the archaic version? Modders are generally autistic on varying degrees but i'm a consolefag and gets to use basic mods in most cases.
>>738326724they can keep their stupid show all they wantif anything that might attract people to the game and they get the real experience
>>738327180I mean a lot of people don't give a fuck about F4NV and are just happy to play OG NV with their 300+ mods load orders
>>738324825This should have been obvious to everyone when the Mysterious Stranger notes in 4 reference every mainline game except for New Vegas. Add to that the lack of any House mentions despite him being a graduate of CIT and Cabot talking about uncovering a hidden city under the Mojave, planting seeds to destroy the setting well before the TV show did the deed.
>>738324232Obsidian doesIt was the first time they were told by publishers that it was all on themThey literally bragged about it being the sequel to Fallout 2Turns out according to avellone even with 'another ten dlc it would never have been finished'According to Sawyer, they had to hire modders to do most of the work since the team didn't know how to use the GECK and were 'forced' to make it 3d despite wanted to make it 2d but signed the contract anyway
>>738327240Instead of making a show, an official FO4 expansion would have been way better. Fuck 76.
>>738324470its not really that crazy of a concept. modders been doing that for decades. it really is bethesda being that bad.
>>738327307Lorelet detected, Deacon directly mentions Robert House in Fallout 4How does someone mentioning Area 51 plant the seeds to destroy the setting
>>738325345I think that's fair if Bethesda didn't like the direction FNV went but it became very popular and a fan favorite eventually. I would love to see Microsoft sit Bethesda down and make a Power point on why Starfield sucked balls.
I have 132 mods in my New Vegas right nowWhat about you anons?
>>738327307They have a boner on keeping the setting as trashy as possible instead of progressing it forward.DiamondCity could be something a few weeks after the bombs for example.
>>738327491
>>738327546So you're saying is that Todd browses 4chan and all the "What do they eat?" threads and yt videos mindbroke him?
>>738325345>Bethesda also had given them the option to ask their team for more help on world design and Feargus Urquhart said no, and also refused to give FNV's source code to Bethesda for extra money purely out of personal spite, spiting the team's desires>Do you need help?>No.>Can you give us FNV source code please saar?>No.HOLY BASED OG OBSIDIAN
>>738327564
>>738327491Like 5
>>738327605You're shitposting but this was fixed in FO4. All they eat is mutfruits and tatos though. Various farmers mention trading with DC too.
>>738327564question, whats the average number of crashes in an one hour play session for you?
>>738324232>>738324785.
>>738324232>27 releases of skyrim>still no updated editions for fallout 3 or nvI get nv but are they just scared to touch the series? Whats going on?
>>738327845Emil probably couldn't handle it and had to jerk off after coming up with this line
>>738327845I've never seen it because i only played the GoTY edition. Vanillafags were probably mad. TES4 even let you play post-game, wtf was Todd thinking with FO3?
>>738324232Dialogue options do not constitute gameplay. Most of the time you're not actually making a choice, you're just prompting NPCs for exposition. The few times you do make consequential decisions there are only limited ways things can go; A, B or C. Once you exhaust those finite options the illusion breaks. Whereas something like combat is systems based thus there are infinite ways to fight the same enemy NPC. Your agency never runs out.All of this is to say that the entire CRPG/WRPG genre is shit.
>>738327906Sure bro, let's have Bethesda release a New Vegas update for some reason, that will break every mod in existenceSurely nothing bad will happenThe game doesn't need fixing, it has 15 years of modding experience behind it and every fucking broken thing can be fixed through mods
isn't Far Harbor the main game again without your son in it?>>738327906no money in it, plus modders keep it alive for free
>>738325345I am convinced the creative team at bethesda weren't dropped on their heads enough growing up. They are so incompetent to just outright inferior that it is baffing that they get financially compensated at all.
>>738328021Isometrics were never good except RTS and sim builders. I only played JRPGs before touching any "WRPG" such as TES, unless you count Ultima Black Gate on the SNES.
>game is called new vegas>look inside>mr house is actually trying to recreate old vegas
>Jsawyer Ultimate: ON>Hardcore mode: ONTime to game.
>>738328238it's funny because Trump is probably the closest thing we've ever gotten to an IRL Mr. HouseI mean, they call New Vegas an "economic zone" in the end
>>738328089Far Harbor starts off as a simple go look for my daughter quest but it's basically a factions oriented questline about subvertion. synths/arcadia are basically the jews of the Island
>>738327814Level 21 atm, can't even remember the last time it crashed - think it's less than 5 times total still. It's easy to bloat that number if you keep mod optionals etc. separate on the left pane, but I'm ofc at plugin cap too.
>>738324232FALLOUT 3 IS FOR THE 4CHANSFALLOUT RICK AND MORTY IS FOR THE REDDITS
>>738327845Someone needs to compile what Charon and the Gutsy says to you too.
MYSTERY NIGGAS
>>738327936IIRC Bethesda were actually surprised to learn that people didn't like the self-sacrifice ending.
>>738325557You think of not having an ultrawide monitor?
>>738326748Bro isnt drinking water cus fags drink water.
>>738327036Im nit going to mention culture war but Outer Worlds was just a bad game. The weapon system was boring and the perk system was beyond braindead. People didnt react to anything in the game and had the vocabulary of a 2015 redditor.
>>738328421Far Harbor weaponized the horrible settlement building to make everybody suffer.
>>738329806Like I said. Emil was beating the fuck out of his meat after writing that ending, thinking he's the next Shakespeare
>>738324342Fpbp
>>738324232Bethesda will never recover from this humiliation.
>>738325897>retard still believes on this lie spread by redditors and the ttw mafia
>>738327978>Vanillafags were probably mad.You potentially had three companions at the time who were all completely immune to radiation. Are you surprised?
Not only Fallout New Vegas is a way better RPG than 3, it's also a way better shooter because of Josh Sawyer autism with guns, the different types of ammoEven the whole perks/skills system is effortlessly better and offers way more varietyDid Bethesda even try?I mean sure, Obsidian just got F3 engine handed to them, but even then, 18 months to do everything they put into New Vegas, is incredibly shortObsidian were on fire with this game, too bad they couldn't flesh out the Legion more in time
>>738332830>it's also a way better shooter because of Josh Sawyer autism with guns, the different types of ammoThe original Fallout already had different ammo types. Todd just dumbed down gameplay in Fallout 3 to jeet levels of retardation, because of course he did.
>>738332830All of the objective improvements FNV made to FO3 doesn't matter to the FO3 folks, all they wanted is a post-apocalyptic looter shooter with ruined cityscapes, whacky and random encounters, and minimal story.The exact type of people who Emil correctly guessed likes Bethesda games where story is for nerds and anyone wanting it should read a book instead.
>>738333671F3 didn't even have fucking aim down sights
When did the rumour start that Bethesda hated New Vegas?
>>738333769Since 2010, and it's a fact, not a rumour>>738333793Are we gonna pretend that Morrowind/Oblivion/Skyrim faggots don't want to constantly gouge each other eyes out in every thread?
>>738327440In anon's defense Deacon may be the most forgettable companion in RPG history
>>738333769Around the time FNV was starting to be looked back on with more fondness about the game after FO4 came out and showed how little the writing and worldbuilding department cared.I think that's when the signs started showing.
>>738324232Microsoft bought Bethesda almost five years ago, and they also own Obsidian, so where the fuck is New Vegas 2?
>>738334675Let it goEven if it somehow happens it will never be as 1/10th as good as New Vegas
>>738334675I think everyone important involved knows that they won't be able to repeat it, or even come close to it.I'd much rather have them tackle some other location if it ever happens.
>>738333891>Since 2010, and it's a fact, not a rumourNo, it's a rumor. Even Chris has confirmed most people at Bethesda don't hate new vegas. They just hate the idea of working with anyone outside their company and that made New Vegas a black sheep, it happened under extraordinary circumstances and only because someone at bethesda pulled Todd's arm to be convinced to let the OG devs do something. It's not anything New Vegas or Obsidian in particular did
>>738334675Avellone said the reason Microsoft doesn't force Obsidian and Bethesda to work together is because this is a much more contentious and complicated process than people think it is, and studios do not usually 'collaborate' like that, and they have a lot more autonomy to say no. Also that Microsoft was likely forced to agree under Bethesda's terms what they could or couldn't do with Fallout and that included full autonomy with the franchise and that only Bethesda could have the rights to work on it per the contract. They literally demanded an arm and a leg from Microsoft for the purchase.
>>738328049>reading comprehension You're brown.
>>738335365I mean a new edition of the game would result in the same shit reallyAll mods would break, nobody would play it because they're comfy with their modlist on the OG game, some mods made in 2011 are still used to this day
>>738325043>It's hilarious how they completely botched and flanderized everything about New Vegas in the show, out of spitewhen they ape the NV cinematic veteran ranger sniper shot, they use the fallout 4 theme every time they reveal something about the NCR its with the fucking fallout 4 theme, it drove me insane while watching and when you go to videos of those scenes the comments are full of funko pop owners going 'omg they played the new vegas/fallout theme... chills!!!'
>Fallout 3: find your dad>Fallout 4: find your son>Fallout Show: find your dadAre those Bethesda mouthbreathers just unable to come up with a more interesting and original premise?I can think for like 5 minutes and come up with way better plots than whatever this safe corporate shite is, and I'm no game dev
>>738335916Why would they need to? People eat this shit up.
every bethesda fallout game is about finding a familty member, every TES game is about a prisoner getting press ganged into working for the blades, bethesda is just not very original
The worst part is Emil is kind of right.A large amount of the audience don't want to think or be part of a good narrative with choices and consequences.They want a theme park.
>>7383353654chan /v/ has gone so downhill it doesn’t even bother to call you a nigger anymore, just “you’re brown” election immigrants have dumped the quality control of this board
>>738336340Yeah we see that in their last 3 games, how beloved they are
Ok, but who was in the wrong? Bethesda or Feargus?
>>738336697bethesda was wrong about making games and writing stories, feargus was wrong about how to run a business
I've seen countless of this shit threads but I'm yet to grap why NV is tranny shit and why beth*sda seethes about it. is it because it wasn't developed by their team?
>>738336675The ones who enjoy said games don't care about the story and just want to explore and shoot things.I've met people who argue 3 has just as many choices and even a better story than NV.I've met people who say FO4 is the best because it has base building and that it's the main point of the series.
>>738336857Funny thing is that Bethesda shamelessly aped the settlement/base building feature from an ancient New Vegas mod
>>738324710>>738324815John Gonzales, the head writer of New Vegas and the guy who created the nemesis system for the LoTR games, just recently rejoined Obsidian as their Creative Director.There's a very real chance Obsidian may be coming back strong.
>>738324232You think so?
>>738336948Source?
>>738337213https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/36922?tab=description
>>738337464Okay. And any proof? I don't trust modders at their word, that's a waste of time.
>>738337586Settle down, Todd
>>738326563Yeah, it was there on F3. Long playthroughs using energy weapons are near impossible without mods, on both games.
>>738337118"EVERYONE GOOD LEFT OBSIDIAN REEEE" is the new impassable bandwagon fallacy you'll hear nonstop from the doomers forever on now anon, dont even bother
>>738337118>>738338026has obsidian fixed its shit management or is it still Feargus' nepo baby hell?
>>738327036Outer Worlds couldn't have been a success because it was just absolutely soulless. It has no personality, no character, no life, no charm, nothing. It's one big void of a game. It does nothing particularly right or wrong, it just doesn't do anything at all. It's slop in the most literal definition. An amorphous, inoffensive pile of slop that no one can like or dislike because it's so soullessly made by committee.
>>738331239It really is insane they're still seething about it. People throw "sales" and "metacritic score" around but the fact that they have to throw that around just betrays the fact that they know 3 is worse. The more they seethe the clearer it is.
>>738324342Who told you that?
>>738338973There's no real defense aside from "muh vibes" and sales. It's kind of like what MKfags always do in fighting game threads, it's their only defense. No merits, no gameplay, just sales figures.
>>738339243It's a third world way of arguing. Money = success. Success = superior. It's why they're all Indians that push it. The most popular has to be the best. That's why it's the most popular.
>>738324470It helps when they had the engine and all the assets handed to them and all they had to do was write a story (which they still couldn't finish on time).
>>738339635NwN2, Kotor2, NV. Obsidian only gets it right when making (unfinished) stuff in couple months deadline.
>>738339635It was already partially written because they reused a lot of the story elements and concepts from the cancelled Fallout: Van Buren project.
>>738338865I can think of 20 more soulless games that came out in the years immediately pre-culture war that TOW2 doesn't even come close to.>Outer Worlds couldn't have been a success because it was just absolutely soullessIt dragged and had cringe writing here and there but it was far from soulless. This is just youtuber opinions. It's no less soulless than Borderlands is far worse- which is still very successful. TOW2 failed because it wasn't even marketed. Even for how cringe you can call it, it was still earnestly cringe and not riding up it's own ass. > An amorphous, inoffensive pile of slop that no one can like or dislike because it's so soullessly made by committeeThis is a culture war argument which is the point of me saying "if it came out pre-2011 people would not have cared about this".TOW2 is no less inoffensively "reddit" than the writing of Bard's Tale or Borderlands 1, you can't point it out as 'uniquely bad'
>>738340132If it was so bad it wound even receive more attention than it actually did.At least people hated on Deadfire.Avowed and OW2 came and went by without even a whimper.
>>738338525RealI don’t think there is a single bad game in Avellone’s ludography. Still, he is not an end all rpg writer, so who knows
>>738336803The latter is fanfiction from obisidian diehards. The tranny shit is real though.
>>738339486>>738339243>>738338973Fallout 3 was still a success in 2008 and had a whole meme culture around it that boosted the popularity of FNV's release. This history revisionism and trying to pretend that, even if it was a deeply flawed game, that it was "never good" and "never popular" is faggot-ass nigger revisionism that RPG Codex bandwagoners and influencers made up because they are the ones constantly seething since 2007 at the Fo3 teaser trailer revealing a first person shooter
>>738324232>>738324342>>738324353I've never played a Fallout game, what makes NV THE tranny game?
>>738340132i can't have opinions on TOW 1 and 2 but all I can say is that based off the trailers and the little bit of gameplay I've seen, nothing about it excited me other than "it was made by (some) of the people that worked on NV"
>>738340331It's not so much that the argument is that it's a bad game, I just don't understand how people don't see that FNV is just FO3 but improved. I know how popular and fun FO3 is but FNV just does a lot of what it does better or takes a lot more stuff seriously, has more engaging writing, and just has more characters to care about. That's why it's jarring to see it defended so intensely when the only arguably thing it does better is have random encounters that change up a playthrough. I think it just highlights what type of audience really favors 3 and what audiences favors FNV because even as a straight game I think FNV just offers more.
>>738336803because HRT has been a disaster for any community that's full of autists and the modding community is full of themnothing about Speedrunning called for nerds to troon out either but it was still taken over by trannies >>738340329 Jsawyer is right, nothing about NV called for "egg cracking" or for players to troon out, they just did that independently of the game because no one but autists are going to bother modding a 15+ year old game
>>738340329https://arch.b4k.dev/v/search/image/PtWKe4hr8AyDo5CYCsDqiQ/
>>738340132>>73834022795% of the people who shit on Outer Worlds or Avowed here got their opinion from a influencer/zeitgeist and didn't play them, 4% played them but had a bias against it the whole time while expecting FNV or bust, and 1% who enjoyed them or can argue for their actual issues occasionally show up, try to argue in favor of them and their actual issues, get shit on, then leave and never talk about them again. /v/ is nothing but influencer astroturf and a reactionary echo chamber these days
>>738340604LMAO
>>738340347Someone took a 2011 "Best games according to /v/" chart, added Celeste, and retitled it as "Official transcore video games" and weak-willed retards fell for the bait and parrot the line now. Nothing in it is "trans" related except that autistic males like it.
>>738340604>Popular image gets repostedThis makes the NV tranny wet xer depends.
>>738340791>PopularThe five filenames say otherwise.
>>738340705Not that guy but I was biased against Outer Worlds (I was rubbed the wrong way by people hyping it up as "The creators of New Vegas" when almost no one remained at the studio) going into it but I still have it a try before saying I didn't like it. I didn't like it, but, at least it's for real reasons and not made up reasons like half the discourse I see.
>>738325979The gas and cloud mechanics were anti-fun and the knife spear enemy on hardcore with the ammo restriction was trash.
>>738324232it's the superior product
>>738340347Like one anon trying his ass off to revision history and make people hate new Vegas. It's probably todd himself doing it seeing as he has a massive hatred for NV
>>738325979I liked Dead Money but I have little desire to actually replay it. It's slow, it's restrictive, and the mechanics are more annoying than challenging. I'm still glad I played through it.
>>738340705That's the thing anon, I don't recall TOW ever hitting the cultural zeitgeist, I don't recall any particularly notable streamers or influencers talking about it. There isn't a major modding scene or speedrunning community, or any kind of persistent fan-base talking about it, creating fan material. I don't even remember any virulent hatred. It's just such a bland game that was seemingly fated to die in obscurity.
>>738340705>>738341615what themes does TOW have? is it really capitalism jokes all around?i feel like that is the main reason why it didn't click with me, there is no intro of someone saying "The game was rigged from the start" as you get shot in the head, there seems to be nothing hooking you in
>>738338525I've heard it's now one of those homo hellholes Microslop turns its studios into. Not as bad as 343, there's still SOME talent left, but it's improperly focused.They really should've fired that bald race traitor, the one who hates whites despite being one himself.
>>738341732It's less about capitalism but more about some sort of about an existencial nihilism because you're now almost literally a cog in the machine.The setting has mega corporations who control everythin so it's inevitable to say things about "capitalism" when talking about that, but it's not really a reddit critique of capitalist economy.Sorry I can't explain it very well.
>>738327491Been rawdogging that buggy piece of shit since day 1.Every once in a while I CTD And one time last year it crashed my PC kek.Idk the original visuals have some charm to it
>>738327491I just use Viva New Vegas which is like 80 mods I think?
>>738334675Microshit is simply retarded. They bought a bunch of gaming studios for tens of billions of dollars, but they still have nothing to show for it. They have also been in the vidya console business for over 20 years, but to this day, all they are remembered for is HALO. lolIf I were Xbox CEO, then the first thing I would do is have Obshitian make a new Fallout RPG and let Bethesda supervise the production. Maybe even make them official co-developers, so their little fees fees aren't hurt. I mean, just letting the Fallout IP rot until Bethesda has finished making TES VI makes no fucking sense. At this rate, we aren't getting another Fallout until 2035 at the earliest.
>>738342362If I were in that place, I'd purge every wokeshit infesting every studio, and probably get fired afterwards by the 'jeets in charge of Microslop.
I like how FNV's community was able to make the actual Goodsprings and the Prospector Saloon into something for FNV-fans to celebrate into a franchise-wide thing.Nothing in the East Coast continuity could come close, and that probably drives the knife in deeper for Bethesda. They have the most "american" setting possible in D.C but did absolutely nothing FUCKING interesting with it because all they care about is destitution and window dressing.
>>738325979Dead Money is the only DLC I never feel a need to replay, the Villa is a tedious maze and you don't get anything but levels for doing it. Whereas every other DLC gives you endgame weapons and/or buffs
>>738324353When did this tranny shit got attached to New Vegas? It wasn't like that a few years ago
>>738343071Hey hey hey, you can slowly move 37 gold
>>738340329>>738340548So NV attracts retards who feel uncomfortable about their weewee, so they cut it and circlejerk said game, making it their bastion of identity and personality?Shit I believe it. Sad thing that retards and secondaries ruin fandoms this way, now you cannot even mention NV without it being full of identity politics war. It's all so tiresome. BTW It's unfortunate, but I haven't really played either, I'm here for shits and giggles.
>>738342846SOVL
>>738343071>he can't let goalso, can't you kill Elijah and take his gun?
>>738344050He has a non-unique weapon and I think you get his robes even if you trap him.
>>738343071I feel a need to play all of them, the game is already very short and these are only slightly longer than some sidequests so they never feel like a slogi'd never pay money for them back when they were releasing seperately
>>738340283>I don’t think there is a single bad game in Avellone’s ludographyWOTR comes to mind. And Lonesome Road is the worst DLC. He's an alright writer but WOTR/LR both prove he needs a tard wrangler like JSawyer or the man will just not stop writing.
>>738326315>these armors are literally unobtainable because Boon's imgflipcom is unplayableWhat did Josh Sawyer mean by this?
Why are Fallout fans so autistic?
>>738347038Does seeing something you like morph into something else not warrant a response?
obsitrannies are as mentally as blizzdrones, which isnt a surprise because all are from irvine CA
>>738347902I don't believe Obsidian as it is now right now can make something as good as FNV.Blizzard died to me in 2010 when they uninfested Kerrigan.The only companies I trust right now are all Japanese.
>>738340705The more I played TOW the more I fucking hated it, I couldn't tell if I was meant to take this world seriously or not because it's too absurd to be realistic but so incredibly unfunny to be a good parody. Beyond some decent companion quests I can't think of anything the game does that's actually good. The story is awful, the writing is fucking abysmal, the OST is forgettable, the game looks decent I guess. The worst culprit is that the gameplay sucks big time. While I understood the point of the limited guns and having 30 different types of the same item under different names as some sort of jab of late stage capitalism it made the gameplay so much worse. I really love having 7 weapons in the entire game and the better version of that weapon is just "Weapon Name +1" instead of unique weapons and how there's 5 different named items that do the same thing of "heal 30 health" instead of just having something simple like a Stimpak.At least Avowed was somewhat fun with the build variety you can do and had some decent writing/lore due to being built off Pillars. It wasn't Pillars 3 nor was it the Skyrim killer people wanted but I vastly preferred it over whatever the fuck TOW was trying to do.
>>738334675that's not really how it works. VW might own lamborghini but that doesn't mean they have them producing nothing but their hybrid SUVs. they own the brand because they are a prestige brand. not something to roll out of a production line in china endlessly.nobody wants to work at microsoft when it comes to gamedev, at least nobody with any sort of pride. so if you force the IP out of its de facto owner's hands, you're going to get a lot of pushback internally, and you're going to look like EA to everyone else externally. that's not really what microsoft wants. what they want is brand clout, and prestige among gamers. of course, now that bethesda is owned by microsoft that automatically lowers their prestige, but that's the reason why they invested into their gaming arm.
>>738342846They just had a really big turnout for the east coast mini-Fallout convention in Flatwoods, WV just three days ago. They even had some voice actors show up. It had a lot more SOVL without literally a thousand people and corporations showing up and the whole town of Flatwoods welcomed the tourism boost. Look up “Wasteland Jamboree” it was a smaller but still huge version of Goodsprings Fanfest.
>>738348429>76 themed>only recognize Marsden from the guestsStill neat I guess. Doubtless the show helped headcounts across all Fallout related cons.
Has anyone went beyond the 254 plugin limit for mods? Really hoping new vegas gets esms and esl plugins soon
>>738348954Wes Johnson showed up. It was neat.
>>738340347Culture war gains power by co-opting popular things and inserting a political message into it. >>738340705Outer worlds was a frontloaded game where the first world was kinda awesome and the rest was slop. Avowed was interesting throughout but not up to the same quality level as pillars.
