>Well, there's a DELTEARUNE thread here.
There will be SOME news this month, right?
>>738324562Toby wouldn't keep up in the dark for 3 months, would he?
Noelle Knight real?
>>738326042https://files.catbox.moe/50tjl4.mp4Always
I still didn't play chapter 3 & 4. Suffer impatientfags.
Threadly reminder that Dess is the knight because Rudy is a Darkner stuck in the Light World.
I found this cool fansongWhat do you guys think?https://youtu.be/B9QsB2kIFPII do like how it sounds similar to Megalo Strike Back
I love all the angsty dark world art but I'm gonna be real with you, folks. There's nothing substantial enough in the actual game that warrants that kind of art. I've been kinda disappointed by the direction toby's going, honestly. There's good ideas in there, but he's much more interested in spending 4 hours retreading Mettaton's schtick with his new marketable OC than anything.
>>738327551My biggest fear is that Toby ends up being conflict-averse with his favorite characters. You see that deep-seated, bubbling fury in Susie when she starts noticing Ralsei is not telling her the whole deal, and I found it disappointing that her frustration was quickly mitigated by seeing Ralsei crying and apologizing. I believe she's going to find out about Kris working for the Knight in Chapter 5, but if Kris's betrayal is handled in a single scene to the point where you could remove it entirely and the game would be unaffected I will be seriously disappointed with Toby Fox as a writer, because it'd so anti-art, so safe.
>>738324493I haven't done any of the super bosses or even collected any 'eggs' or even did the Weird Route.Can't wait to have to go through all that shit in one run once the final chapter drops just for a slightly different dialog at the end.
>>738327763>I didn't like that Susie who clearly only really has trust issues and this is something that's been established over 7 fucking years didn't immediately pulp one of her closest friends because they didn't feel comfortable telling her things he knew because he cared about her and didn't want her distressed and said this plain as day while fucking crying.Every time I walk into these threads it gets more retarded.
>>738327551I feel like I'm missing a full book's worth of headcanon every time I see this type of Kriselle art.
>>738328038>putting words in my mouth
>>738328084The premise is pretty simple, really. Noelle yearns to be close to Kris cause it helps her return to the mental state of when they were friends as kids and everything was fine, before whatever happened with Dess, meanwhile Kris is using her for....uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, only Toby knows.
>>738327551>>738328084It's wonderful tragic fantasy romance, what's not to get?
>>738328526Kris isn't using her for shit, in fact I think Kris doesn't even want to be around Noelle because of the guilt of his implied involvement in Dess's disapperance.
>>738328730Not liking what's happening doesn't cancel out that Kris is still playing along with whatever the plot's about.
>>738328084I would've saidr that before the rape scene but now art like this feels fair
>>738324562No.>>738324724Yes, he would.
>>738328887I mean, I do agree there's a part of Kris that secretly enjoys the Weird Route, ERAM himself said it. Kris is just a mystery, can't tell what's going on inside his head.
>>738328526Kris isn't using Noelle for anything (you) are. whenever I see kriselle art like this it makes me think that the artist only experienced deltarune through let's play or stream watching. the player is the one who orchestrated everything while Kris tried their best to undo the damage. on a subjective level the art is cool but objectively it's crap because it misses the point of the weird route so far.
>>738327763It will be a much bigger thing than what happened with Ralsei, he only hid shit from her because he didn't want her to worry, he did it for her.I don't really see Kris' betrayal reveal happening in ch5. I know it's taking forever but his ulterior motives only came to light in ch4, I'd be odd to squash that the very next chapter. His treachery will probably be revealed to Susie later on in ch6, maybe even 7. There's a lot more built up trust there to be broken, and it would be done to further his own goals. Not for the sake of his friends
>>738324493>DELTEARUNEI really like this game made by Tony Fox with its hooman characters myself. >>738324562I mean, if we get nothing this month I am genuinely expecting Chapter 5 only on Q4 of this year.
>>738328084Most of Toby's games require you to IMAGINE the finer details and that's by design
>>738329071To be fair, most art shows them as pretty hesitant and clearly doing stuff against their will.Of course there's some that lean into the daddy dom shit women eat up but horny people will be horny. What can you do.>>738329436The design of a fraud, maybe.
>>738327763Toby's favorite characters are filled with conflict and angst in Undertale, he loves hurting his favorites.
>>738329172>ch6, maybe even 7Yeah I can see that. And I think that conflict will be the highlight of DELTARUNE because the story implies Kris has a such a troubled, sad past. His half of the room is completely barren, he carries a knife around, he doesn't like being hugged, he had to go to art therapy as a kid, he's very sadistic. But then he meets Susie, and they start bonding and you see Kris almost recovering his humanity, especially in the diner scene when Susie mentions that Kris is smiling at her, or when he chooses out of his own will to hug Ralsei, so he's clearly not emotionless, Kris clearly has empathy and I think he's afraid of getting closer to Susie knowing he'll have to betray her eventually.
>>738327763Susie almost murders Lancer in Chapter 1 for betraying her friendshipShe's very frustrated that Ralsei is keeping secrets from her, but Ralsei has not actually fucked her over like Lancer did (as far as she knows) and she can tell from his reaction and explanation that he's not just fucking with her, he's in a fucked situation and is trying to make the best of it for everyone.Susie's biggest fear is fake friends, that's the first thing she talks about when she opens up to Tenna, people would get close to her as a cruel joke just to use her and throw her away. That's why she's so furious with Lancer, she thinks he was just pretending to be her friend as a trick to capture them. She blows up at Ralsei too when all her frustration and tension between them boils over, but of course she's willing to hear him out, he's her dear friend, and Susie also very desperately wants friends.Kris's friendship with Susie has been founded on false pretenses and deceit from the start, no matter how much Kris actually likes her now. If you think that's going to get blown over in one cutscene you're out of your damn mind.
>>738329071yeah, a lot of people also fail to understand that it isn't being scared that noelle likes, it's the comforting she'd get afterwards from dess that she really likedthat's the reason why she's tripping over herself for kris in ch4, it's because he went back to her house after ch3 to comfort and reassure her about what happened in ch2it had been a long time since anyone had done that for her, and from kris who she had been missing for years at this point it's little wonder why she immediately changed gears over to him rather than continue pursuing susie, whom she still didn't know very well
>>738330054I love Susie and her dynamic with Kris so it's going to be a shitstorm when Susie starts picking up on the clues that Kris is working for the Knight. I would genuinely side with Susie if the game gives me the option to.
>>738329071There are women who are horny for Evil Male Manipulator Kris, but most Snowgrave/Kriselle art has Kris being passive or equally victimized, or even being victimized by Crazy Evil Noelle.
>>738329518You can call Toby a fraud if you want but his IMAGINATION method is the reason his games are still talked about 10 years later.
>>738330523>the reason his games are still talked about 10 years later.I enjoy deltarune and undertale as much as the next guy but the only reason undertale breached containment instead of becoming a moderate success only a handful of homestuck fans and the furries they recommended it to ever played is that it somehow snowballed into everyone on youtube playing it. It's pure luck. Toby got lucky. There's no secret sauce. There's probably a dozen undertales being buried in itch.io every day.
>>738329071I feel like that's a bad example to use for "like this" ccomplaint because that art literally has the players red puppet strings all over Kris.
>>738330849What? That's just not true, this revisionism is so fake and gay, Undertale was already very popular during its kickstarter.
>>738330849imo the biggest reason for undertale's success was the music it it were even 2/3 as good it would not be remembered like it is today people severely underestimate the effect music has on the human mind and how they perceive certain things
>>738330849>There's probably a dozen undertales being buried in itch.io every day.In the sense that there are dozens of games emulating Undertale getting buried? Sure.In the sense that there are dozens of games with the quality of Undertale getting buried? Fuck no
>>738330849There's still a lot of popular games that don't get talked about 10 years later, unlike Undertale.
Nah, the success was 100% due to the ge oxide route and all the weird secert fun number stuf. This all happened during the height of popularity of other edgy horror games like fnaf or bendys and big lore essays videos of those games
>>738329172>>738330335I believe Chapter 5 will explore Kris's ROOTS, Asgore's investigation into what happened with Dess and the aftermath, culminating in Dess being revealed as The Knight.This is what Susie needs to start figuring things out, but I think she likes and trusts Kris too much to seriously suspect them and it's probably not going to come to a head until they're confronting Carol in Chapter 6 and Carol outs them as a traitor.This is also one way that the Weird Route will have major consequences, with Susie's trust in Kris and Noelle already being damaged before she finds out they're related to the bad guy. It's not going to end well.
Sometimes I actually feel giddy waiting for the next chapter, all the new content, playing, talking, speculatin, drawing porn. I love Deltarune
I only watch weird route playthroughs because all I care about is evil Kriselle.
I want more maus x noelle rape porn
>>738331465Oh boy don't get me started on the shitposting!
>>738331293Genocide and the Sans fight was what truly made Undertale into a phenomenon, yeah. The Sans fight is probably the most well know thing about his games
I hope we get more ennemies like the titan and titan spawn, fighting stuff and killing stuff si way more fun
>>738330849"It got popular because Toby is a talented artist who amassed an audience of people who liked his work and networked with a broad group of creators who supported him" is not what "just getting lucky" means
What if Asriel and Dess had their own dark world adventures before us? Maybe Asriel was lonely and he was the one that created Ralsei and the castle town dark world
>>738331478I like the weird route cause it's the only remotely interesting thing going on in DR. The normal plot is more or less the gang going in fun adventures and meeting wacky characters to stop the end of the world played completely straight, while the weird route is all the creepypasta ass shit everyone loved in UT cranked up to 11
>>738329034I'm gonna be honest with you guys, I don't think I'd care about Deltarune even half of what I do if it wasn't for Kris.Kris is just such a giant fucking enigma that half of what I always ponder about every single plot point is what does Kris have to do with it, and with what intentions.
>>738331827It's possible, it would explain their connection to Seam as well.
>>738330523I don't particularly like the IMAGINATION crutch. It's good for stuff that benefits from mystery like horror but if that extends to the main plot, character relationships, the setting, rules, then it becomes a mess. Especially if the info is vague enough to the point where people end up with completely opposing interpretations, *cough* Chara *cough*. No point to discussion when you're essentially debating headcanon vs headcanon.
>>738331675>For 7 years push the "RPGs where nobody needs to die!" angle>Every DR chapter very obviously push you to do 100% pacifism to get the "good" ending>Introduce SWORD, the Knight and the Titan you HAVE to fight>It's way more compelling Based honestly
>>738331145>fuck nohe is absolutely correct though
>>738331960I really want to know what Ralsei's angle on everything isHe knows that Kris is a traitor but likes them anyway, he knows Kris is possessed but refuses to acknowledge it in front of us, he wants to change The Prophecy because he knows they're all doomed but he's afraid it might lead to something even worseHe knows everything about "the game" but he doesn't seem to know what Kris and The Knight want. What does he know about You? What does he think You are? What does he think You want from him?
>>738330862i feel the artist's usage of puppet strings on Kris is well done but the marionette control of Noelle although it's connected to the player gives of the impression Kris did it. maybe if all the strings were red but I understand your point
>>738330205noelle's fascination with her newest comforter is interesting. she's gone from Susie to Kris to the soul now. I wonder how toby's going to juggle the festival
>>738332415Ralsei talked to Gerson through written notes when he asked us to close our eyes during the tea break. this might have happened before
>>738332415>them
>>738332415>ralsei's room is green and in-between
>>738332382Well, my question to you would then be what games you have in mind that released recently with the quality of Undertale that have been overlooked. If there are really as many as you say, it shouldn't be hard to come up with an example.
De/ss/
you guys know whats the worst part?after ch5 is released, and we will finish it, and discover secrets, and discuss it to death then there will be another 2 years of WAIT™ for ch6
>>738332292I think Undertale wraps everything up in its setting pretty nicely. Most of the stuff that's left deliberately unexplained/open to interpretation falls under the category of either "teaser for Deltarune" (Sans and Gaster) or things that are directly addressing the player and kind of inherently depend on how you feel about it (post-Genocide Chara)
>>738332292I like the fact that the humans action and personalities can be interpreted by everyone differently despite having hard, solid facts. I guess it's just personal taste but I wouldn't like it Toby explained how everything should be interpreted.
>>738332734>then there will be [BASELESS DOOMFAG PREDICTION] you people are so tiresome
>>738332646But it's not. It's all the way to the far left on the third floor of his castle. Kris's room is the one in between Susie's and Lancer's.
>>738332642blud played the game with his eyes closed
>>738332734why would Chapter 6 take 2 years? assuming it isn't released together with Chapter 7 of course
>>738332734I'm extremely hyped to WAIT, yes. I love WAITing. 2029 release HYPE.
>>738332642That's how Kris is referred to in the game, yes.
>>738332898um did you just heccin assume my gender bigot?
>>738332714Why is she like this?
Toby Fox will be remembered as a good composer and a bad game developer.
>>738332924because development just started last year and the quickest chapter release thus far took about 3 years of dev time
I don't care about what he thinks, I'll betray Kris the second I get the option to. Fuck all of you I'll make my new Lancer fan club>Berdly>Noelle>LancerBoom
>>738332815>>738332924>BASELESS>why would Chapter 6 take 2 years?
>>738332704Deepwell and Moon River
>>738332945they them kris faggots are somehow more pathetic than femkrisfags
>>738333036>they them kris faggotsyou mean Toby Fox?
>>738332734I'm not worried. If ch5 ends up being shit then I jump ship, if it's good then the rest will probably be good as well so the WAIT will be acceptable. The only reason this WAIT is so frustrating is because ch5 will be a make or break for me.
me forcing myself in Noelle for chapter 5
>>738333119toby fuchs does it to preserve the reveal that kris is the second herothey/themfags do it because it adheres to their pronoun fetish
>>738332714>>738332959Based and it's because nobody can stop her.
I'm convinced Kris is only referred to as a "they" because monsters don't know shit about human biology. And Kris probably does have a messed up self image anyway, there's no other human around, just weird ass monsters.
They fuck and kill together, how sweet
>>738333352There are multiple books in the library about humans and specifically how to raise one. But nice cope.
post Kre/ss/ green nau
>>738332772Undertale wrapped up fine but Deltarune has a lot of spinning cogs and I don't have that much faith he can address everything satisfyingly by the end. He might resort to throwing shit at the wall and letting you connect the shit dots.
>>738333352This cope doesn't make sense because monsters are much more familiar with humans in Deltarune, Kris was raised as a monster, and monsters broadly follow the same gender roles as humans anyway
Gaster is purposefully doing they/them so the player see Kris even more a blank slate and accept controlling him without a care. The vessel will be used once you get all the knowledge necessary to outperform Kris and the rest of his evil schemes
>>738333552Alright then
Why couldnt dess stick with goat dick? Why don't you go after kris
>>738333552best excuse i've seen is that the human raising project book always referred to humans as a group, and since toriel had the authority on kris no one else would correct her and it just stuck
>>738333617it's because there was already another thread up before this one, that one still bumps (for now)
>>738333642BASED BASED BASED (Last one I'll share)
>>738333617talking about video games? on the VIDEO GAMES board?!not on my watch! we nee 10 gatcha threads in here, stat!
>>738333704it's so disgusting I love it
The current schedule should be>Chapter 5 July-August>Chapter 6 June of 2028>Chapter 7 Christmas of 2028Like that the story isn't going to lose momentum in their last chapters and it finished in the 10th anniversary of the game
kwab jannyhow dare we talk about vidya on the vidya board
>>738333617Shit, it's auto-saging? At least we have the other thread. Fuck jannies
>>738333653Insane headcanon when the answer is obviously "Kris's gender is unspecified because it doesn't matter" just like the last game. You people are just as delusional as the xitterfags claiming Kris is 100% confirmed nonbinary.
>>738333803We've been on the dark for almost 2 months and these threads are still the fastest on the board kek imagine the seethe from the jannies when chapter 5 comes out and this board goes up in flames
>>738333843There was a live playthrough with Toby involved where his guests were referring to Kris as a "he" or "guy" all the time even though Toby himself used "they"Toby doesn't care that much, why should we
>>738333352Kris is referred to as they cause it was the convention used on Frisk who's supposed to look like a generic protagonist until the very end but now that Kris' entire thing is that they're their own person that shit don't make sense anymore. Yet toby can't do anything about it or it'll anger the mob.
>>738333843if kris' gender didn't matter then toby wouldn't have made one of the heroes require a specific gender
>>738332415I think Ralsei is just flat out working with Kris, probably as uneasy allies. Common goals, but Ralsei knows Kris' allegiance is elsewhere, and would rather Kris shifted in full to just supporting his course of action but for the moment makes do.At least that's the vibe I've got, it's still too early to tell for sure.
>>738333870Yeah, these threads are far from dead despite what the schizos think. I guess this time it was because there were two threads
>>738333978it was the fangamer one, and iirc they only slipped up and called him a 'he' the one time and just breezed past it guy is generally seen as a gender neutral term, especially when referring to a group
Kris is "they" because they're lireally TWO NIGGASAND EVERYONE IS IN ON IT.
WHY? WHY DO I LIKE KRISxDESS SO MUCH??I'D USUALLY BE MORE INTO KRUSIE BECAUSE OF THEIR CHEMISTRY, BUT THE IDEA OF DESS MANIPULATING KRIS WITH AFFECTION JUST ADDS SO MUCH TO THE GAME
>>738334142>Yet toby can't do anything about it or it'll anger the mob.What mob? It's like you people live in another dimension. Complete disconnect from reality.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3NfJ9UFINY
>>738334298kris x dess but dess is the knight is the ultimate kino
>>738334161>I think Ralsei is just flat out working with KrisIt's an interesting angle, but Ralsei's genuine terror and despair when confronting The Knight makes me think they can't possibly be on the same team in any meaningful senseRalsei definitely sympathizes with the difficult situation Kris is in and maybe he'd even support Kris's endgame if it came down to it, but he wants to find another path forward
>>738334801I don't mean that Ralsei is in on the team Kris seems to have with the Knight/Karol, I mean that Ralsei shares whatever goals they have to at least a certain point so they have an uneasy alliance where Ralsei knows eventually it might break and wants Kris fully on his side before that happens.
>>738334801ralsei has an overrideeven if he disagrees with what kris is doing, he must still do his duty
>>738333240I can't wait to beat Kris within an inch of their life
