Can it be saved?
no by swiggers.they need to outsource the balancing to non-glazer players the same way they out source everything else to indians
>>738328019Sure. Just give them 60 days. It'll work out this time, surely.
>>738328019The game died the moment they decided to cut Cultists
We're playing Fart Fart West now.
>>738328019maybe if people stopped playing it. sonys never will though.
>>738329187>sonysps5 was always around 20-30% of the playerbase
>>738328019Probably not. It's in its third year and its still a technical mess, still lacking endgame content, still pushing out untested changes. We're going to start seeing some serious competition emerging soon and I don't picture them staving off more competent development teams.
>>738328967from what i heard, 3/4 of their content are made by 3rd partiesarrowhead alone can't save its own shit even if its life depended on it
>>738328019the game still has a very strong foundation, if it weren't for the fact that arrowhead's swedish it otherwise would be easily salvageable
>>738329180can't wait for the honeymoon's end
>>738328019They just need to add the necessary content to make the galactic war actually winnable/losable. After that they can trickle in new stuff while shifting primary focus to working on a sequel that isn't built on an obscure out-of-business middleware engine.
Can I be saved?
>>738328019>>738329180I have co-op slop fatigueThis is just friendslop packaged as live service team based co-op like helldivers 2. No actual endgame, just endless cosmetic slop, new battlepass slop, new same boring grind slop. Even MMO's have more incentive than this because at least they have open worlds.A new term shall be created, what shall we name the phenomenon of live service always online lobby based games like helldivers 2, far far west?I say we should call it squadslop or co-op slop
I'll just keep playing EDF6 with my friends
Yes, if you cheat in Super Credits to skip that horrendous farm.
>>738332267You still need to farm over 16 thousand medals for it all. Merely unlocking the warbonds does nothing.
>>738332337I used the same cheat to AFK farm the medals :^)I unfortunately also just learned from the last archived post of the cheat pasta that the guy who created it started only distributing it through Discord, what a homo.
>>738328019Yes but somebody will have to buy it for me so i can save it.I don't pay for gaems
The community for this game is so fundementally shit that their own sub-reddit believes that spending $100+ dollars on all 13 battle passes is good.
>>738331943Rock and Stone!
>>738328019>Can it be saved?Saved? I just did 3 missions on spore bugs strain and the game was perfectly fine. If you're having issues with the game OP, it's more of a you thing i am guessing.>>738332337>first mission 9>second mission 12>third mission 1536~ medals every hour~ hour and 20 minutes + the daily 15 + the 50 from the major order every week to 3 days? If you find a group to just do main objectives you could probably farm medals faster. I personally have no problems with the medals farm.
>>738331943The term GaaSlop already exists.
>>738331943>le endgamekys niggerfaggot? how about that?
>>738328019Not by a swede.
>no abdos for the new warbond yet
>>738329180add optional 3rd person and i am sold
>>738337179A fellow individual of culture. Fuck all of those low effort "abdo inspired" mods the rest of nexus likes yo shit out.
>>738328019The game is fundamentally broken. There is N O T H I N G that stops players from splitting up and soloing the entire map.Special enemies that get spawned in to rape loners don't exist.Most enemies are slower than players allowing anyone to just walk away from them.No objectives require two people.Everyone is self sufficient. The way the spawn system works means that only one player will actually need to fight enemies if everyone runs off on their own. The host will get stuck fighting endless spawns while the rest of the lobby goes in every other cardinal direction to clear empty bases.Quite literally every other 4 player horde shooter co-slop game in existence has one or more elements that urge players to stick together. Helldivers 2 has absolutely none of them. 2 made the jump from a top down game where the players share a screen to a fully 3d environment without any consideration at all to how players were meant to stick together and what has resulted is an utterly fucking boring game.
>>738338939>There is N O T H I N G that stops players from splitting up and soloing the entire map.Because its gorilla tactics. You go in, explode everything in an alpha strike, and then get the fuck out because reinforcements are infinite and fighting them is pointless. Even if you were doing it in a party of 4 the tactic would remain the exact same, you'd just have an overkill of 3 people's worth of stratagems.
>>738338939And what would the game accomplish by forcing players to stick in a squad of 4 at all times? You don't need 4 people's worth of stratagems to complete objectives, and saying 4 people can fight better is also pointless because enemies are infinite and fighting them is just the game running down the clock like a fucking fighting game match. All you're doing by forcing players to stick together is making sure it takes 4 times as long to clear maps, because the only benefit of sticking together is something you don't want to be doing at all in the first place.
just hope for someone else to make a game akin to it and make sure to support them when they do, there's literally nothing else you can do about thisthe game is not going to get better because the team behind it won't either, they do not possess the power nor the will to change anything meaningfully, maybe we'll get an actual starship trooper game with this, who knows
>maps are either barren outbacks of various colors or cities>last free stratagem was grenade barricade more than a year ago>weapon customization dead in the water since introduction, here's more (paid) weapons with gimmicks that should be attachments instead>FRV still barrel rolls for 10 minutes when turning at an angle over 30°>a fucking tank destroyer when tank turrets were figured out in 1917, not even usable as a wall like in HD1 to compensate>still no actual frontline mission with allied NPCs>still no way to repair or rearm vehicles>stealth is a paid warbond, no suppressors for other weapons>STILL NO FUCKING LOADOUTS>new mechs mean vehicles are now paid warbonds instead of, for instance, letting the player customize a starter mech>to top it off, you don't get medals anymore if you don't login during eventsI'm starting to think the devs are trying to kill the game because they made their money and are tired of "working" on it.
I stopped playing it a couple of months ago. Just the amount of glitches in this game is really unexcuseable at this point. One of those things where you stop you realize just how shitty the devs are and really just don't want to go back.
>>738340286but that's wrong, you don't even need to get out, you get nothing by getting out, nobody ever gives a shit about getting out if you get to do the objectives, so that doesn't even workno, the main issue is that there's a design clash between 'okay you're an expandable grunt and you're expected to die all the time' with 'okay you're a guy that can spawn orbital lazers capable of taking out entire bases in a few seconds and you can be basically unkillable and you have nukes in your pocket etc etc'>>738340853this is a good list, the weapon customization bullshit is a huge fucking meme and pisses me off so much especially, but I get it, sony just wants them to sell battlepasses and thus they don't need to improve the base game, and since there's no real competition (EDF 6 was absolutely trash, most horde shooters are just pointless slop that die out in a week, last starship trooper was also just 'HD2 prototype' etc etc) add also one of the most basic thing that they could've added in less than a week and still isn't in game;>no way to figure out how many of X did you kill, you just get big numbah because nigger brains, no way to dunk on your mates for having taken out all the titans or most of the levies or anythinggame is nothing but a battlepass simulator and it's been that way for a while now, the 'content drops' like new mobs etc are probably only occupying 10% of their time, if even that
>>738340842There was reverse collapse: foxtrot announced over the weekend but that's not til 2028 at the earliest.
>>738341379If they can get the base gameplay down, I can forgive it being a gooner gacha slopfest visually speaking. Given the state of these companies though, it'll just be an uninspired shitfest that is aimed for casual gamers with little to no challenge, which is what most HD2 players are actually looking for and AH can seem to get through their thick heads.
>>738341379>gachayeah, nah, and the gf niggers already ruined any and all potential hope I could have for any of their games when exilium turned out to be absolutely shitmaybe one day we'll get a real video game with anime girls, but gacha ain't it, they never understand that adding gameplay is actually a requirement and not optional
>>738341783>they never understand that adding gameplay is actually a requirement and not optionalThe money disagrees with you, and money is all that matters.
>>738341783Thank you, I thought I was the only one to think Exilium was shit
>>738341841>but the chinese whales spend so much money on the games so therefore you're wrongI don't think you understand how this works, I don't give a fuck about your shitty game, gachanigger
>>738341929>I will keep wallowing in my DEI misery to spite you!k then, you get no sympathy.
>>738342064NTA, but nice non-argument there retard
>>738341282>but that's wrong, you don't even need to get out, you get nothing by getting out, nobody ever gives a shit about getting out if you get to do the objectives, so that doesn't even workAutistic bullshit.Every mission I ever played people called in the extract shuttle and didn't just autisticly wait for the timer to run out, so clearly people do give a shit about getting out.
>>738329150they did?
>>738341783>>738341592They never said it would be a gacha and it's a continuation of their previous non-gacha title
>>738328019No. Parody and immorality is condemnation.
>>738340626>And what would the game accomplish by forcing players to stick in a squad of 4 at all times?I don't know, maybe reference ANY OTHER CO-OP GAME IN EXISTENCE to find your answer as to what happens when four players fight together.>because the only benefit of sticking together is something you don't want to be doing at all in the first place.Holy shit, thanks for repeating my entire post back to me, you fucking idiot. This is the game's biggest problem. You zoom through the entire map without fighting anything. What the fuck did you even get this game expecting to do? You saw a trailer for a bunch of space marines fighting hordes of enemies and expected: "WHY YES I THINK THIS GAME IS CLEARLY ABOUT RUNNING AWAY, NEVER FIRING A SINGLE SHOT, AND ABUSING THE SPAWN SYSTEM SO I NEVER ENCOUNTER A SINGLE ENEMY WHY ACTIVE COMBAT WOULD BE AN ACTIVE DETRIMENT TO THIS GAME'S CORE DESIGN"
>>738328019Purge the fanbase of reddit slime.
>>738328019NoI gave up on it completely Just play deep rock
>>738344394Give it up you're arguing with a retard. The only one winning here is him because he drags you down to his level of retardation.
>>738328019nuke sweden give the IP to the chinese and helldivers will be saved
>>738341841Fuck off faggot I ain't touching gachashit So apparently gameplay matters
>>738338939yeah and thats why its actually fun.>NOOOOOO ITS NOT BALANCED UNLESS THERES A SPIDER WITH A COCK THAT STUNFUCKS YOUR THROAT UNTIL YOUR TEAMMATE PRESSES Fgo play left 4 dead instead.
>>738328019If they remove the paywall I will play it again.
>>738345673>chinese>Make it gachashit >Saved Yeah...
>Game comes out>Launches with a paid battle pass>It's just the first one, there will be free ones later.>2 years later.>All content is locked behind paid battle passes.>Not a single additional free one was ever released.
>>738338939Special enemies like L4D ones are fucking gay.>Most enemies are slower than players allowing anyone to just walk away from them.This is the real issue and has been since the game's beginning.>>738340626>zero reading comprehension: the post
>>738340842I'm honestly shocked that 2 years have passed and there is not a SINGLE clone of this game announced.
>>738346462A clone was released last week to some success.
>>738337179im working on it>>738338408no one cares
>>738346462there's a fair amount of horde shooters releasing every now and then, but most of them are either very low budget or bring nothing interesting to the table (like HD did with its marketing and general vibe), more often than not it's "oh look it's zombies again, shoot them lol"
>>738328019Sony's fumbling of this game is fucking legendary
>>738348350>Sony's fumblingNigger this is all 100% entirely Arrowhead. All Sony did was buy them undeserved good graces by making themselves a scapegoat when we all could fucking see Arrowhead was on the path of ruination two months in. Its thanks to Sony that it has taken the public two fucking years to notice what was obvious in two months.
>>738345983I am 99% certain they never said they would release free ones.
>>738346462>2 years have passedThat is nothing in game dev time for a third person action game like this. HD2 took something like 7.
>>738348496No Sony is most definitely at fault here because their sorry asses were too busy throwing all of their eggs into the Concord basket. They never anticipated for Helldivers 2 to become the initial success that it was and then they absolutely did fumble the ball they were given.
>Swedes>game has no content it's the same song and dance every single time>galactic war is rigged unlike HD1>swedes>game engine is discontinued and they don't know how it works85% of the xbox surge have left the game.
>>738348496>Forced Sony accounts to be attached>Literally lost entire countries of players for HD2>Then forced in hugely unpopular third party warbonds Sony have been nothing but a detriment but the biggest reason why is their insane cut. Arrowhead have abandoned HD2 because Sony is getting a cut on every sale and every DLC as the publisher. But thankfully they made enough to go self publish their next game.
>>738329180>gay fantasy guns>skeleton and ghosts only, no gore or bloodit's trash
>>738328019>almost 3 years later>44k players>Can it be saved?
>>738349128>SteamIts 200k on any major update and about 100k daily more, than any other pve coop shooter.
>>738328019>Can it be saved?bro it's still the best coop shooter on the market and it's 40 bucks, keep your whining to yourself
>>738349193I'm not claiming that's bad. Those numbers are high.
>>738348716gears of war 2 took 2 years to release
>>738349575>gears of war 2Because sequels on the same engine are always faster. HD1 and HD2 were totally different games.
>>738328019>Buy the game expecting Deep Rock Galactic but with extreme jingoism and Super Racism>Instead get a shittier version of Warframe>Devs needed someone to hold their hand and show them how to make the game not run like shit because they were too busy nerfing the weapons in a PVE gameI'm never trusting /v/ again
>>738337179The game will live if they'd stop breaking mods every major update>>738348025Please make more fatass ladies chubby tums
>>738349958>>Instead get a shittier version of Warframeno such thing can exist, warframe is the worst videogame ever made
>>738348716It's enough to get a game to beta state if you're not some garbage AAAA studio where every decision needs 4 weeks to resolve.>HD2 took something like 7.That is not normal.
>>738350304>That is not normal.It is when you end up using a dead swedish engine no one cares about
>>738349958> shittier version of WarframeMazed retard.
>>738328019Armor customization and 8 player raids, with a 1nce a week 16 player super earth defenceThere i fixed it
>>738350409Not even then, I honestly cannot explain how it took them that long to make this game even after watching the talk from the boss at GDC or whatever it was.You'd think they actually switched engines halfway through.
>>738350071>>738350410I couldn't think of a better way to articulate the entire game being a "go here and do thing 10,000 times to unlock 1 item out of 200" type grind.I suppose I could've just said that.
>>738350579Of all its issues HD2 isn't grindy at all. Even not playing gets you medals.
>>738350785It is if you're playing alone.Because without friends all there is to do is grind.
>>738350835I only play D10 with randoms. It is not grindy. You can get a whole warbond done in a day easily. If even that is too much you can safely use any of the 'modding' tools to give yourself 250 medals every match too.
>>738340626Glad to know this game is full of retards like you. Good thing I got a refund.
>>738328019>Can it be saved?No
>>738340626>And what would the game accomplish by forcing players to stick in a squad of 4 at all times?They can do both. They can have missions where you have to cooperate and have pure solo missions (every mission in the game currently).
>>738350934That doesn't suddenly make the game fun though
>>738328019Make hellbux easier to getStop dartboard nerfing shitBigger explosions
