>Things have gotten so dire zoomers are trying to recreate a 90's lifestyle "to get the world we were born too late and denied">This includes getting old pc parts to make "vintage rigs" to try and make the perfect windows 95 or windows xp computer>They are the ones buying VHS tapes from thrift stores and crts on ebayIs this pathetic? or a natural human reaction to try and escape the live service/social media nightmare we live in today?
>>738329031meanwhile basedlennials still wear marvel and star wars shirts while looking at their Funko collections
>>738329031It's pathetic that you care more than anything. Every generation has had people who wished they were from a different time and do this exact thing. Not video games btw
>>738329031I'd rather they cosplay boomers than buy whatever slop is produced today
>>738329031It was a time of nice balance between physical and virtual. It was comfy, I understand them. People are not supposed to have so much trash data so fast, we are not supposed to move so fast, try to be so much. It is soul sucking and unhealthy; the only ones who thrive in this new world are the fucking corpos and endless fields of useless middle managers in these corpos. Grind is real and it should stop.
But why? Is he running a museum or something?
>>738329031Yeah dude like we never collected old records to use with vintage record players or restore old cars etc. Shut the fuck up
>>738329031Honestly why do you care? Its better that some people buy that old junk instead it rotting on a landfill on a third wold country filled by based muricans.
gotta love how retards can view any small social trend and imagine it to be some society-sweeping commentary on modern life
>all these zooms chimping out kek
>>738329573This, though I don't think it's ever going to be possible to recreate the dawn of the internet and that feel of awe before all the possibilities that opened up.
If they have fun with it, let them have it. I was born in '92 and most books I read are from the early 50s to late 90s. (sci-fi/dystopian)
>>7383296591. Old cars are cool.2. Vinyl sound better.What the shitfuckcockgarglingdemonsemenbitchcuntfart are you gonna store on a a fucking 100mb diskette?
>>738329031That's good, now if only all zoomers were doing this instead of playing Fortnite and watching TikTok. Then the world would look different.
>>738329031/pol/ dicklets do this all day larping as 50s boomers, talking about how things were so much better back when the Internet and all of the goyslop and porn theyre addicted to didn't exist
>>738329884>Vinyl sound better.Wrong, just use lossless audio.>but I like the cracklesUse an audio filter then.
>>738329031I think it's based. It's much better than zoomslops that only want to play roblox or fornite or whatever the newest fotm is and call everything even slightly older than them "uncslop".They can at least appreciate the goodness of the before time.
>>738330014Oh you suck dick. My apologies. Carry on.
>Things have gotten so dire /v/ is screencapping the twitter of some collectionist zoomzoom>That's it>That's the whole greentext
>>738329031Video games?
>>738330070>zoomslops that only want to play roblox or fornite or whateverBro i hate to tell you this but the oldest zoomers are turning 30 this year and have children.
>>738330072woman logic
>>738329031Yeah dude, collecting vintage and antique items is a new thing that only zoomers do.It's really unlike anything seen before.
>>738329031I respect zoomers who give enough of a shit to have a hobby like retro computers even if it is surface level. I'll take them over the other zoomers who speak in ebonics and have no personality beyond hitting a vape.
>>738329031Computers back then at least had soul. They buzzed, vibrated, made sounds. You could diagnose shit just from listening to them. I get why zoomies would find them cool. I'm glad those days are behind me though.
Young people do shit like this because boomers like us romanticize the old days too much. My first PC was a 64MB Ram 650MHz AMD Duron with an 8MB video card and 20gb HDD. It took this piece of shit 5 minutes to boot up and 10 minutes to shut down. It was huge, blocky, a single power outage could murder the entire system, I used to download games for an entire day because the fastest internet connection could only download with 20kb/s. Games were evolving so fast your machine was obsolete after 2 years. Nobody who grew up in these times want to go back. Yeah the times were better, but hardware wasn't. Maybe most games were.
>>738329031better that than supporting the current shite.
>>738329031I think it's mostly because they had better aesthetics. Our current technology is superior but we've lost a lot of tech personality in the process. RGB garbage, flat and minimalist interfaces, rounded rectangles etc
>>738329031Emulating old IBM PCs properly is actually pretty difficult. I should have kept my old 95 machine.
>>738329031>OP discovers the concept of a "hobby"
>>738329573>It was a time of nice balance between physical and virtualHonestly the stigma back then that everything on the internet is bullshit helped alot.People kept online and IRL very seperate
>>738330506Is this real?
>>738329031I don't miss those days for the tech, I miss them for the simplicity. No discord, no smart phones, no streaming, youtube barely being a thing, no wikis, no 2+ screens, google actually worked as a search engine. Just people playing games, focused on the games, communicating in the games.
>>738330125welcome to modern /v/where screencaps of other people saying shit get more attention then actually coming on here saying shit
>>738329884>100mb disketteWeren't they like 1.4 MBs? I remember having to use a bunch of them when they were near the end of their life
>>738329031>get oldish gpu >my gaming pc can now natively output analog signals to my crt letting me watch dvds in the best possible quality How is this pathetic exactly? I, Claudius has never looked better.
>>738329031Why can't they just like old computers?
>>738331204I installed plenty of games of 8+ floppies back then. Yeah, they were 1.44 MB each
>>738329884ok? old computers are cool
>>738331204>>738331424That's a Zip drive, btw. Not a regular floppy drive. 100-750 MBhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zip_drive
>>738329031One faggot doesn't neglect the hundreds of millions with their spotify shit.
>>738329031People shouldn't try to escape, they should just accept that they exist to be tortured by rich and powerful sadists and willingly volunteer to be tortured.
>>738329031I mean old computers or consoles are comfy as fuck, I can see myself getting an old PC-FX machine just for the hardware alone. Not a zoomer btw.
>>738329884>What the shitfuckcockgarglingdemonsemenbitchcuntfart are you gonna store on a a fucking 100mb diskette?The exact same thing we stored on them back then. Video games.
>>738331080Should've stayed that way
>>738329573>we are not supposed to move so fast, try to be so muchBeautifully said.
>>738329031The 90's were great though, I grew up during that time period. Hollywood was still based, and hadn't become pozzed yet. Video gaming was at its peak then as well.......great now I'm depressed, take me back bros, I want to go back.
>>738329884>What the shitfuckcockgarglingdemonsemenbitchcuntfart are you gonna store on a a fucking 100mb diskette?I remember getting my first 5 GB HDD. I thought it would be impossible to fill it up, since my old computer didn't even have 1 GB of total space. Didn't even take a year before the first "low disc space" warning showed up. If you have the space, you'll end up using it
My zoomer brother has turned his room into a "90's room" and he is a 25 year old man born in 2001. Motherfucker is obsessed with RL Stine and the Sega Saturn.
>>738329031RagnarRox is a millenial he's probably 38 or some shit.
>>738331902based
>>738331467this, OP cannot refute this claim as they söy out over old cars and dusty records
>>738331902he sounds based, a shame he has a faggot sibling
I'm glad I amassed my retro computer collection before people starting buying stuff up for social media points. Another hobby ruined by normalfag's perpetual need for social validation, like everything else.
>>738331902Your brother sounds based, why are you stressing out over it?
>>738332203poorfag melty
It really is retarded though.Like there is no purpose to the old hardware since you can just emulate all the programs and games from back then and it's much easier and safer to store them on a hdd + backup or something
>>738332369Normalcattle got called out, definitely posting from a phone.
>"Things weren't better, you're just nostalgic, ackshually experts agree that this is the best time to live in history ever">Zoomers have "nostalgia" for a time they never experienced>They attempt to relive millennials childhoods and adolescence vicariouslyIt's almost funny that Zoomers can sense they've been robbed of a high trust society, they were basically born into a urban Mad Max world and groomed into being a slop consumer since the first time momma thread an iPad at themIt's an accomplishment that they've recognized the nightmare clown world of a DMT trip they've been born into and can instinctively sense it's wrong and try and claw themselves back to a better time before
>>738329031We're on a state of worldwide cultural decline and stagnation that's only really accelerated with A.IYou yourself and see this with internet memes with wojaks still persisting
I want to make games using time appropriate software and disregard any modern nonsense. If not for anyone else but myself.Basically, I aim to create a splinter timeline where post 2007 never happened.
>>738332427I don't want to be dependent on some troonware emulator
Niggas don’t know about my floppy disks
>>738332802Most emulators have been finished since before the word "troon" existed
>>738329031>Is this pathetic? or a natural human reaction to try and escape the live service/social media nightmare we live in today?Not if RagnarRox is gonna post about doing it on BSKY.
>>738332472If you weren't a normalfag and poor you wouldn't be complaining because you'd either know where to get stuff for cheap still or just be buying on ebay.
>>738329031Is it really that different from something like a vinyl collection?
>>738329629For fun. Some people collect antique china. Some people drive classic cars. Some people like to tinker with vintage computers.
>>738329884Whatever I feel like. Maybe I'll put a bunch of crusty compressed gif reaction images on there so I can reply to you with them whenever you make stupid posts like this. The point is that its cool, just like the vintage cars and vinyl.
>>738331204That's a zop disk, one of the many "super floppy" formats. They hold more than conventional 1.44mb floppy disks, but need a special drive to read, and said drive isn't backwards compatible.
>>738330431What would you consider a non-surface level hobby?
>>738330596>It was huge, blocky, a single power outage could murder the entire system, I used to download games for an entire day because the fastest internet connection could only download with 20kb/s. Due to the wonders of the modern day video games industry and the absolute state of the US electrical grid, this is still my life.
>>738333871*Zip diskI hate mobile typing
>>738331902He's based, zoomers are based, zoomers who like 90's tech are based.
>>738331902Don't know about RL Stine, but the Saturn is cool. You have any pictures of the room?
if I could go to the old /v/ I'd do it in a heartbeat as well, can't judge em for it
>>738332427There's no purpose in video games either. Vidya doesn't do anything practical. The only thing you get from it is enjoyment, which they get from vintage hardware.
>>738329031Show them how 5 kb/s internet feels and they'll instantly come crawling back.
>>738332750Same here. What's your current setup? Any projects you're willing to share details on?I'm currently working on an rpg for MS-DOS and legacy Windows machines. Trying to keep the filesize small so I can fit it on a floppy disk. I don't have a working DOS machine yet, so I'm stuck using DOSbox on my P4 machine. I'm working on a socket 7 Pentium machine though.
>>738334642>she didn't have isdn internet
>>738333006Diet twitter is shit, but there's nothing wrong with sharing your hobbies.
>>738329031Yeah I noticed that too bunch of C64 Channels popped up more and more in my algorithm that I usually ignore,and rediscovered some games I totally forgot about same with Ms dos (first duke nukem, bio menace, commander keen)
>>738334642I've people self host their own dial up service just to get the authentic feel. Anyways, there's nothing stopping you from using your modern high speed Internet on these devices, they had faster Internet back then, just not for home use. And all that aside, there isn't much to do online with machines that old anyways. Most of the computing tasks of the day were offline. Most you might want is to browse the old web, or to play deathmatch multiplayer.
>>738329031>This includes getting old pc parts to make "vintage rigs" to try and make the perfect windows 95 or windows xp computerThis is the stupidest thing. We loved the aesthetic, not the part where you have to deal with 9x and XP drivers. Just get a mid PC, theme your Linux or Windows to 9x or XP or whatever you want and play those old games with less pain. I remember when I installed Garfield on XP and the game didn't render correctly. Also GTA4 PC launch was extremely bad.
>>738332750>2007Why specifically that year?
>>738335428
>>738329031>is this pathetic?what should they be doing
>>738329573That shit was not comfy.PCs back then were slow as shit and VHS tapes could only hold a few hours of footage. I played games like Claw and the Disney Hercules game at like 10 fps because my PC was that shit, it was so shit that turning off sound made the game run noticeably better. The novelty of all that bullshit will wear off very quickly and those zoomerfags will go back to doomscrolling twitter.
>>738335596Why, dying in another middle eastern war, of course!
>This includes getting old PC parts to post about it on social media and never use them Fixed it for you
>>738335404Speak for yourself, the aged hardware is the appeal here. Dealing with drivers is just part of the charm. Think of it like how classic car people actively enjoy working on cars, while your average driver absolutely hates it.
>>738329031>real excited to plug this into my vintageHe's talking the same way boomers talk about their 69' Mustang that they work on. Kinda based actually.
Why do Zoomers love Goosebumps so much? i know they are actually still going to this day and only "went away" in pop culture because scholastic lost their merchandising rights during an ugly countersuit with Stine but it feels like zoomers care more about the 92-98 original books and pc games.
>>738335747>Think of it like how classic car people actively enjoy working on cars, while your average driver absolutely hates it.not sure if this is a good comparison cause moderns cars are a hassle with all the electronic bullshit that's inside. Cars used to come with a manual how to repair them yourself. Dealing with software issues was never really fun.
>>7383355582010s wasn't that bad though, i think
>>738329031I have a few of these Zip disks, they're great drink coasters
>They don't have a vintage rigI bet you are posting on a device with RGB lights on it, disgusting.
>>738329031>>738335915Why do people like you stalk random Zoomers on the internet and believe their habits represent those of an entire age bracket?
>>738329031>harmless tweet about a collector collecting>long seething about generational competition What a gay ass thread
>>738336067Why are you not assuming people notice things in passing due to the algorithm based nature of most online websites and are instead constructing a imaginary person to get mad at? Thats a sign of schizophrenia or bipolar disorder.
>>738335989It really wasn't. 2007 wasn't really the year the internet went to shit, as much as that oldfag image would have you believe. No, the real year the internet went to shit was 2020-2022. What happens when you give the third world access to the internet and shove everyone everywhere indoors and online for months on end? You likely already know the answer.
>>738331670>Now>2013>Google+ integration was 13 years agoJesus
>>738330228Not on /v/
>>738335652>PCs back then were slow as shit They were only slow if you asked them to do something they weren't designed for or if there was something wrong with them. A fully functional pc running software it was designed for should be very snappy. As an example my P4 machine is just as responsive as my i5 machine at running era appropriate software. If I need to do something that specific machine can't handle, then I use a different computer. And I do use that P4 machine quite a lot. Normally I post from it, but I can't for the time being because cloudflare is being shitty and blocking non-chrome browsers again. >VHS only holds a few hours of footage More than enough for any movie unless you mean specifically some really long 4+ saga with an intermission in the middle like Gone With The Wind (but even then, they just put the tape change in the intermission). And plenty of space for TV episodes.
>>738335558Suicide rates jumped from 2007 to now
>>738336193>doesn't remember this site getting flooded with election tourists in 2016the internet has been shit for a long time it only got worse over the years
>>738329031in fifth grade my friend had poorly photoshopped nudes of drew barrymore and winona ryder on one of these.
>>738329031Zip drives were shit even back then
>>738330506Wow, he had a lot of friends!
Silly. It'd be better to familiarise themselves with emulators.Maybe not.Software was better. More interesting. Like made by better people. Profits were much smaller, and they were content with that. They weren't parasites. MS did the unthinkable in making all the DOS stuff incompatible with the disgusting windows 2000 and XP.But I guess with human programmers it's easier to reinvent the wheel, even as a training tool, or a momentum starter, than to go off others good/better work.
>>738335965Modern computers are similarly harder to fix because of how locked down everything is. Yes, issues are rarer, but if you get one the prescribed solution is "send it back and ask for a replacement". I have an Ideapad from 5 years ago that has no drivers available and can't be repaired because all the parts are soldered with no replacements available. Meanwhile my Toshiba from 1993 comes with a detailed repair manual telling me how to replace every component on the board. There's also that car people often go looking for junk cars to work on.
Did you guys know that we have more slaves today than in any other point in human history? Around 50 million. While the percentage has gone way down we've just way outpaced it with population growth, so the number of slaves is actually growing. The future looks pretty scary with that in mind.
>>738336449Hardware is visceral
>>738336015I wonder if it would possible to post from that, maybe using a second computer as a proxy to render the webpage and solve captchas.
These people are focusing on the wrong things. If you really miss running a Pentium II, cassettes and renting VHS you are retarded.
What's the point of buying tech just for the sake of owning it? These are tools to make life easier, not fashion statements. Peak consumerism.You're not gonna convince me this person is getting use out of their zip disks in the year of our lord 2011 + 15.
>>738329031It's pathetic.
>>738335915They were really common in school libraries and scholastic book fairs in the 2000s and 2010s, which is where zoomers got most of their exposure to literature.
>>738336286Retard.
>>738336173Why do you believe one post served to you by a machine reflects some kind of consensus? Are Zoomers also obsessed with making video essays because the all-knowing algorithm shows you some instances of that?Were you also one of those who "noticed things" about millennials a decade ago?
I wish companies would make fake high quality 4:3 CRT-ish monitors with high res and Hz.
>>738329031>Pathetic?Using, experiencing, and preserving old tech? Keeping it out of landfills?That's based, but you're NIGGER for reposting Twitter
>>738336449Emulators are a different thing. If all you care about is the games themselves, not authenticity, any other software, or any physical parts of the experience, then yeah, emulators are the best choice. But there's no way to emulate moving jumpers to overclock an AM5x86 to get the fastest possible processor on a 486 motherboard.
>>738336621What's retarded about it?
General use floppies are fun to use (and better than optical in some cases imo) but buying silly nonstandard high-end shit is dumb.
>>738336649What's the point of playing video games? Fun. Their fiddling with zip drives is accomplishing just as much as you arguing on basket weaving forums.
>>738336502fair enough I got into electronics too late then I guess
>>738336839A tube tv would cost hundreds more than a LCD for shipping and storage costs alone, those things were heavy as shit.And way to show your age but 16:9 content on a 4:3 display is not it my guy.
>>738336783No argument.
>>738337093>Want a cute little Sony Trinitron for on my desk to play old consoles on because i'm fucking sick of hdmi converters being docgshit or burning out after like 20 hours use>Due to weighing more than a WW2 sea mine shipping is more than a brand new flatscreenfeels bad man.
>>738329031The fact zoomers have the same taste in women as black people and like nigger asses should tell you everything you need to know about zoomers, and gen alpha of course
>>738336286Which P4 do you have? I have a couple of them running Win98 and XP
>>738337050Video games are entertainment. Zip disks are a tool. If you wanna have fun with a hammer then by all means, but the two aren't really comparable.
>>738337093I think he meant high performance 4:3 lcds. Anyways most games still support native 4:3 on pc.
>>738336325oh I remember, but they mostly stuck to /pol/ and /v//ck/, /k/, /tg/, /wsg/, and /out/ were mostly fine
>>738337192>Got a nice little Trinitron from work for free>The overscan is atrocious and I can't get the picture to fully fit on the screen no matter how much I trySo close and yet so far
Remember the smell of a freshly burned cd or dvd?
>>738329031What you are doing is indeed pathetic, yes.
>>738336286The longer you set a VHS tapes to record the lower the video quality got and more strain you put on the tape, you could buy 6 hour on SLP speed blanks but the resolution would be dogshit.
>>738337081Well you could get into vintage electronics. There's a sizable market for them and plenty of junk to refurbish.
my basement rec room has no technology in it made after 2004. never will. i leave my phone at the door and this is my sanctuary. watched a binge of season 1of the x files on my crt last night till like 3am and i am free in a way you could be but choose not to be.
>>738337203I bet you'd die of thirst if niggers were known for drinking water.
>>738337332>mostly fine*up until the pandemic, St. Floyd riots, and Ukraine war convinced everyone to cook, get guns, try tabletop games, shit up the trails, and turn /k/ into U/k/raine. Tiktok and vtubers, along with the electionfags and stormtards, turned [wsg] into an unusable mess.
>>738337439>choose not to be.Anon, I'm broke.
wonder how much of it is just performative for social media clout
>>738336878You can emulate old tech. Those second or third hand parts are ticking bombs. They don't have any crazy benefits that current hardware lack.>>738337093Well maybe it could be "slightly fat". Flat but not like modern ones, and with retro aesthetic.>16:9 content on a 4:3 display is not it my guy.And we would make a full circle. It would be the beginning of 4:3 patches for widescreen games. >>738337305Yupp
>>738337262All entertainment is ultimately just you doing pointless things for fun. In that way collecting old hand tools (which is also a thing) is the same as playing vidya.
>>738329031it's like 75 zoomers in the whole world doing this, let them do it for fun if they want to
Probably wise to try and go back to when it was good after things have gone bad. Especially when they have no influence in changing what is next.Might want to inherit the experience of older people. Something more optimistic, less self conscious, more imaginative and engaging.With less capable hardware the bare essentials in showing things, so not seeing a lot of what doesn't matter or doesn't deserve a place.More intentional stuff too rather than trying to fluke things.Might be interesting, like go over someone's place and they have an era in a corner. Something different. Get the feel of stuff, the ethos. How to be human then. Could tie in with stuff now in being pretty artistic.Haha, some poor bastards seeing what it was like entirely without "gangster rap" etc. What the world was like without animu, monkeys and the internet. Where bad people essentially didn't have a voice. Weren't standard or acceptable. Govt was assumed to be sensible instead of child rapists.Tranny stuff is off the scale wrong with such a scale. Couldn't happen.Might be able to reproduce the style too. Make the future more of the past. Less bloat. More assumption others are a very high standard and should be treated well. That everyone is or should be or will be rich. Not in the sense of wearing a tie and robbing people, but in having no tax. You work, you save, you get rich. What you have isn't taken away. the idea of maintenance was even foreign. If just for kids. Things worked. You got something and it'd work forever. You'd have that for the rest of your life. You gave it what it needs and you got something that did the job. There wasn't an excuse for things failing. You did something wrong. Nothing did the thinking for you. hat was your human experience, enjoying thinking, piloting, being in control, considering, feeling. And expected to produce something from that consciously. Things getting better over time.
>>738337491go to flea markets not ebay.
>>738336241
does anybody think buying a TV is pointless nowadays? aside from gaming or listening to music/sports/news, what even is there to watch? I know we stream, but even I think something new will replace streaming.
>>738337526why care though?
>>738337542It's not about advantage
>>738337624my tv exists for consoles i havent watched a tv show since like 2009.
>>738337251Its a Dell Dimension 3000. Anyways it kinda works with 98, but has too many issues to be usable. DOS fullscreen doesn't work with the igpu because the drivers are meant for ME, audio doesn't work in real DOS mode, there's no OPL emulation, and the only PCI video card I could get my hands on (no agp slot) has an unfixable memory range conflict with the acpi bios. Anyways even if I did fix that, I'd still be stuck with shoddy sounblaster emulation, rather than the real thing, due to a lack of ISA slots. I need a real soundblaster for proper sound.
>>738329031This guy posts nothing but fake finds for attention he wouldn't get if he admitted he just bought on eBay for over the odds. Fucking pathetic creature.
I'm tired of hearing nostalgia/enjoying old stuff is hecking bad and escapism!!
>>738337364They don't have a smell. Or at least I don't smell it when I burn discs.
>>738337624BBC and their French and German equivalents are still making some decent content with their TV loicence money
ahahahahahahah a zoomer has a hobby im going insane
>>738337251>>738337814I should add that I use it with XP SP3
>>738330596A pet peeve of mine is younger zoomers not getting that RAM amounts et al used to move insanely fast compared to today thus every year was distinct, so they think for example that regular home PCs in 2001 had 1GB of RAM. Also see all the posts showing PS3 games with captions like "WHOA how did they do this with 256MB of RAM?"
>>738337396Yeah, but the quality is fine when recording the length of a normal movie.
>>738337645Because it would be unauthentic poser fake ass "yearning" shit for attention.
>>738337491Nta, but garage sales and thrift stores.
>>738329031They see nothing good from the future because there's nothing to warrant romanticizing it. Therefore, they want to go backwards, because the present sucks too much and changing it is impossible unless they can get the entire country to unite on a common goal.
>>738338028so?
>>738337542>You can emulate old tech. You can emulate some software well enough to use it, but unless full hardware clones exist, you can't get the full experience without original hardware.
>>738329031The "video store" experience was great.
>>738329031Holy fuck zoomer does thing? That's literally unprecedented and insane. picrel my live reaction when I found out just now.
>zoomers want to go back to installing Generals Zero Hour from 4 DVD disks
>>738337624The consumer grade RGB LCDs are coming out soon the clarity is fucking wild. Zoomers just don't care about their AV experience. Their fetishizing the past's old tech isn't why people liked them in the past, no one in the 90's was like "I want a worst experience than what can get now" no one was buying dresser sized Black and White tv's to watch gunsmoke or restoring Commodore's to play Elevator Action
False nostalgia for a time they were never a part of as a cope for the shitty state of things of today. I understand the motivation but it's misplaced. Millennial retro game collecting is lame but at least it's a part of recreating a past they actually lived in, this is just pathetic on multiple levels.
>>738329031Hey, if that's how they roll. In the 90s my older brother fixed a 1940s vacuum tube radio, all it needed was new tubes and a huge as fuck resistor (somehow they still sold those at the electronic store in 1995) . He sold it for pocket change like a retard shortly after, however. He wanted the money for a cd walkman.
>>738337998No one in 80's/90's would waste a black tape on one program. Everyone filled those fuckers up, they were too expensive through most of VHS's life cycle.
>>738338381Zoomers lug around a massive CRT monitor and think "oh man this is great I love the heavy bulkiness of it I guess, they sure were lucky to be able to develop core strength back then doing this" while people who actually grew up with these things wanted to fucking shoot themselves any time they had to move.
>>738329573Agreed. Humanity can't handle such advanced tech coming so fast while their spirit remains behind. But it's on Satan's best interest this keeps happening. The Matrix was really telling us about the future.
>>7383290312001 zoomer here, I have a large collection of physical media including pretty much every mainstream game console of the last 50 years with only a few notable missing ones but that's besides the point. The reality is that we were born at the perfect time to watch the switch from analog to digital through our childhoods, so there's an element of nostalgia there, but the main driving force behind purchasing older hardware (at least for me) is that the modern media landscape is downright hellish. Megacorporations bounce streaming rights back and forth while jacking up rates for subpar services, game companies outright refuse to rerelease older titles and when they do it's typically tied to yet another shitty subscription service, and music is the same way. Everything these days is designed to keep you paying in perpetuity and with the state of the economy, it's just not sustainable for media enjoyers like myself. Back in 2020, I bought a copy of Earthbound for my SNES for $155. Not as high as they go, but still fairly steep. Had I simply paid for Nintendo's online subscription to play it, that $155 only buys me 7, almost 8 years with the game. With my hard copy though, I can play it for as long as I please until I'm dust in the wind. I can even back up my copy and play it on other devices through emulation which you just can't do with these subscription services. They also get things wrong with these rereleases regularly, so to have the media I like in its purest original form is ideal. No retarded retroactive censorship or half assed remastering and it plays just as the developers intended. Ownership is king, and I refuse to be scammed by subscriptions that can't even do the job right. It also makes hosting fun :)
>>738329031>100 mb disksnoone had one of these so what's the point, just get a USB thumbdrive. never even heard of these and i was born in 84.
>>738338634>Ownership is king, and I refuse to be scammed
>>738338184It's a shame that rather than engaging with older media out of some genuine desire to experience it, there are those that only do it to farm engagement or make performative "woe is me this world no longer exists" posts or edits over some cheesy song. Nothing feels authentic. Cynically it feels like just a current fad.
i wonder if any of the 5.25" floppies for the C64 from my childhood even still readthey were all bootlegs so a lot of them didn't even read back then
>>738338791Yup, all the social media posts showing title screens says volumes that all of this is just to profit off of what they strictly consider a clout investment.The monetization of anything and everything was a mistake.
>>738338634you can just download roms without getting the cart. it's ok. Nintendo don't make any money on those second hand sales 30 years out so they don't actually care.
>>738338634Nothing cemented this feel for me like learning Dawn of the Dead didn't get a Blu Ray release till like 2 years ago because of a patent troll camping the rights for over two decades. Everything is a gig economy and grifters trying to go "not my problem, got mine" as they enshittify every facet of society from top to bottom.If you need me i'll be in my garage with my PS2 slim hooked up to a CRT playing FFX for its 25th anniversary.
>>738338634You're smart enough to bring redundancy to your physical collections with independently-owned digital backups where possible so I cannot in good conscience bring any criticism to your lifestyle. I will never understand people who worship an old cartridge or disk like it's the only thing keeping them from killing themselves, saying that physical is what will preserve things for all time, and then balk at the idea of making proper backups of the data on there so that they are playable in some form no matter what happens(and accidents do happen)>>738338878He probably does, I doubt he's finding ways to transfer his specific SNES cart of earthbound to a ROM file by himself, but maybe he is that much of an autistic lord-among-men
>>738329031>zoomzooms having fun experiencing old tech and sharing their findings>anon mad they're """disrespecting""" his cultureYou guys are so weird sometimes, especially coming from the place that was exactly created to talk about old/niche topics by the time. Your time would be better spent just ignoring them, or better yet, joining the conversation instead. Let people enjoy things.
>>738337624There's still a century's worth of old content to watch and plenty of vidya to play.
>>738337945Its impressive considering the PS3 stuck around until 2013
>>738339041>Let people enjoy thingsnice angle, i hadn't thought of that
>>738337624A TV makes for a great PC monitor for your living room.
>>738338345Better than downloading a 100 gb game from steam and maxing out my monthly data limit because phone companies still bill me like its 2005.
>>738339313How m any 100gb games are really even worth it these days? Just play smaller games and bitch about data caps when you're torrenting.
>>738339237Matrix confirmed.
>>738338381People in the 90s were fetishizing the 50s, and TV was a footnote in the 50s. Most of it was old music on records or old fashioned clothes.
>>738338345>spent two whole days downloading ragnarok while begging my mother to not use the phone because it would kill my internet connectionHome...
>>738339397The 50s and 60s is when a lot of the modern household appliances (TV, fridge, microwave, stove etc) became affordable to the general masses. It's a bit surreal to think that nuking something was once an exotic and luxurious method of cooking instead of just a shitty way to make instaramen.
>>738329031that's fucking cool though they deserve to have the context for the modern day and a life unbothered by technocracy
>>738329031>Is this pathetic? or a natural human reaction to try and escape the live service/social media nightmare we live in today?Why not both?
>>738338567Good thing it's not the 80s then. I got into vhs in the 2000s when everyone was selling off their stocks for pennies. Cleaned out a Hollywood Video and a Blockbuster to het half of my collection. The rest is from yard sales. I don't use vhs to record since I have a DVR and there's hardly anything good on TV anymore anyways.
>>738338571And people in the 60s hated restrictive gender roles and patriarchal society. Now people constantly mourn its death. Most people don't know what they had until they lose it.
>>738338634Same year zoom. Recently I've been downloading lossless audios of songs I like because I can't keep modding or compiling my spotify on my phone because the big noses at Spotify can't accept 1% of piracy. I rarely listen to new music so I don't need the algorithm to make things difficult. I've been using PCs since XP era and this year I learnt about FLAC types, the more you know. I won't pay so much money on a music streaming site. I have rom collection that comes up to around the 4th generation. I played Weaponlord, too bad that game isn't getting a reboot or anything with its complexed and questionable special move combinations
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>>738338634I would've used a flashcart myself, but you're right about subscriptions being aids.
>>738339597I do know what I had with a fucking huge-ass monitor and I didn't lose anything because I could be like these relic-collecting idiots in OP. I instead gained better display systems. I don't give a shit about your shitty political bait, I'm here to talk about how shitty CRTs were to own.
people are romanticizing the old times because modern media is truly fucking horrid, just take a quick look at the 80's and the birth of all those legendary movie franchises and music/bands, even pop music from back then was good, good enough for you and your mom to be able to enjoy it the same, this is definitely the dark times for enjoyment, at least technology progressed...sometimes i wonder what if we had all this technology and standards back in the 80's what new legendary game franchises we would have
The biggest regret that will forever haunt me was selling all my old hardware/tech to help pay my brother's debts, the piece of shit didn't even thank me.I can't even start rebuilding my collection because everything is 3x-10x more expensive than the last decade.
>>738338634I just download the ROMs/ISOs/files of stuff I want to save. Don't want to risk an old system crapping out on me, and having to pay a bunch to replace it. Eventually there will be no more old hardware to buy, and unless some company is making a physical emulator or replacement parts, you're shit out of luck. Still, for what it's worth, I think you're pretty based
>>738339371Even 20 gb is still half my data limit. And games have been around 50gb for over ten years now. I do just completely avoid AAA games now, and even a lot of indie games because of the obscene file sizes. And at that point I may as well buy games on disc, since all the games that I actually can download are available that way.
>>738329031>People are into retro techWhy is this a bad thing? Who cares? I think it's neat that people want to learn and play around with this stuff. It's a hobby, how is this any different from people who like classic cars, or tractors, or whatever?
>>738329031Eh, whatever. Let the zoom zooms have some fun.Personally, I never want to see this garbage stone age hardware ever again. Zoomers will never understand the horrors of being dependent on floppy or zip drive garbage. SD cards are a god send.
>Is this pathetic?I think you're evil for even saying that. In some form or another, everyone understands that things right now are very, very wrong. Whether longing for something lost or longing for what was never had. I also don't know if there's any going back, I think the genie is out of the bottle, the damage that's been done to the general populace psyche over the last decade and a half is incalculable.
the one thing i miss is buttons. big chunky clunky buttons that made a click when you punched them in.there is a certain physicality, a tactile pleasure, that has been lost in the ubiquitous touchscreens and post-iphone quest for sleek minimalism.
>>738339497In the 60s it became established, but in the 50s it was in its infancy and wasn't very well established. Yeah people had TVs, but there wasn't much to watch on them. Game shows, the news, maybe a documentary, and maybe some old film serials being rerun like Flash Gordon. People had better things to do, so it didn't dominate their lives, thus there wasn't much nostalgia for old sets. Though people do collect those too. Some people collect early mechanical televisions like were shown at the world's fair.
>>738329031Living vicariously and unproductively in a time that doesn't exist anymore is always pathetic and cringe.
>>738339997>Even 20 gb is still half my data limit.You have a uniquely shitty situation that's not representative of modern infrastructure. You're either an unironic third-worlder or you live in a place where functioning electricity is a luxury.
>>738339765Maybe CRTs are bad if move around a bunch, but they're great if you have a stable home. I've been using constantly since they were still current.
>>738338634>I refuse to be scammedYou're getting scammed by ebay resellers by collecting old media. I can understand wanting to own things that you particularly enjoy or that holds sentimental value but otherwise I think it's best to just pirate everything. Personally, I collect old consoles and mod them or buy flashcarts so I can play pirated games. You could've bought an Everdrive with a massive SD card for less than the cost of Earthbound and loaded every SNES game on it. t. '99 zoom zoom
>>738329884i never grew up with zip disks but in certain audio communities they're still very revered for old hardware
>>738340246>muh productivityoh no. It's terminal. He's thinking about the shareholder.
>>738339948If you learn to solder you can keep your old hardware running forever
>>738330506>Confuses mass produced consumer products as soul.lollmao, even.
>>738340295those speakers surely cant be any good
>>738340330>Uses words it doesn't understand in contexts it has unpacked yet.I'd pity you but I'll forget you exist before the next (you) comes.
>>738340280They're still shitty in a stable home because you're fucking with your room's layout just to make them viewable, either by putting it in a corner or limiting your seating arrangement. They were also annoying to get behind if you need to fuck with the red/yellow/white video audio cables. They were worse even if they were functional and anyone pretending otherwise is bundling in all of the other actually shitty things about modern tech with this one specific device.
>>738340254I live in Alabama. The problem is that the only Internet available here is cellular, and the phone companies always put tight data caps on hotspot usage. Technically there is dsl, but it only goes to the school, city hall, and the buildings neighboring them. The phone company would rather die than lay the mile of cable it would take to give everyone else service.
>>738339835Project Hail Mary was a good movie and so were the DUNCs. But yeah, modern media is ass. There's not even anything good on the radio anymore. It's all boomer shit.
>>738340292At what point do you use retroarch and get a romset for Mega drive instead of getting a whole TV for the thing unless you're using converters and an everdrive cartridge for it? Besides Nostalgia and noveltyt. 01 zoomer
>>738340424the MPC community is mostly niggers and mexicans, it's a device known for it's roots in hip-hop production they're a lot of fun though
>>738338634Everyone born in 2001 is Billie Eilish in disguise.
>>738340197I hate touchscreens so much.
>>738340361I'd rather play games. I don't have the place for a good CRT and a bunch of consoles anyway
>>738329031Zip drives weren't even that popular back then, they got quickly replaced by USB Flash drives
>>738340525>I live in AlabamaMy condolences.>nah it's not shitty because-I drive through Alabama around once a month don't even try me. You can have whatever you trot out for Alabama in other states and have better tech infrastructure.
>>738340246Yes mr sheckelstein, how pathetic these people are for not giving you more money.
>>738340583touchscreens are bad but the worst is touch *plastic* shit works maybe 20% of the time
>>738340292using ebay lol lmao even
>>738340246Where do you think you are, cringe faggot
>>738340746Most pussy way to say he's right, guess he struck a nerve.
>>738329031>bsky.socialgo back
>>738329031Windows 11 is so shit that people are nostalgic for 1990s era Windows.
>>738340519>because you're fucking with your room's layout just to make them viewable, either by putting it in a corner or limiting your seating arrangement. That's a problem with LCDs too. Made worse by them having restricted viewing angles. They're also super fragile and way more prone to falling over. So you have to cater to them just as much as tubes despite their smaller footprint on a table. Plus the length of a tv isn't nearly as bothersome as its width. >hey were also annoying to get behind if you need to fuck with the red/yellow/white video audio cables.You still have to fuck with cables on modern TVs. Anyways this can be remedied by not having the TV so close to the wall. >They were worse even if they were functional I guess there's weight and resolution, but other than that I don't see an issue.
>>738340809I would still be running either XP or 7 if it was viable. Most changes are being pushed just for the sake of change, so a dev can stay employed and a manager can take credit and a project can get completed. It's been all-bloat for many many years now.
>>738339716Where did I say I don't use flash carts lmao. I use them all the time, they're especially useful for Pokemon games. I can play an Emerald ROM on my phone with my bluetooth controller or on my PC, or Wii, or anything else I have that can run GBA games, and then put that save on my flash cart and trade over my emulator mons to my actual cartridge over link cable and move em up to the newest generation as if it were all legit. They also let you play homebrews and hacks on original hardware, the most notable I can think of being Clyde Mandelin's Mother 3 translation. I also enjoy playing the fan translated Death Note tie in that's just called "Kira Game" on DS but that's not retro so I'm just rambling at this point. The point is that I absolutely use flash carts in tandem with the rest of my shit and they kick ass.>>738338878This post reeks of jealousy and ignorance. Do you seriously think I'm so stupid as to just mindlessly consume after my post where I detailed my thought process behind what I do consume? If a game or movie or whatever is cheap and I want it then sure, I'll just buy it because it's interesting. I just picked up a copy of Tomodachi Collection for DS like this to complete my Tomodachi set. But if you think I'm entertaining anything above like 60 bucks without having at least played it first to make sure I'd even like it then you're just ignorant.The issue with both of these posts I replied to is that you're assuming I'm only consuming media in one strict fashion. I'm not. Having grown up with internet access my entire life and wheeling and dealing pokemon card trades on the playground as a kid, I've grown savvy both in terms of how to get what I want through the power of the internet, and how to negotiate effectively. Make no mistake, I'm no fool.
Remember to always backup your shit, anons.Start stock pilling drives now because storage prices are finally going up.
Good for them. Just keep doing the opposite of what j*ws want. Forever.
>>738341043>identify enemy's objective>deny enemy's objectiveworks every time
>>738329031literally why?just use 86box or some other vm and be done with it if you're THAT autistici can maybe see why people collect vinyl (even if i don't personally agree with it), but old PC technology?i mean if you REALLY want bare metal then sure, go ahead, build a """vintage rig""", but floppies and zip disks were objectively shitty and unreliable, genuinely don't get why people are drooling over such dogshit technology, it's all digital anyway so there's literally zero difference other than the shittier experience
For the love of God please keep the advanced tech you have now and just stop doomscrolling. You don't need to go back to CRTs and zip drives you just need to stop letting an algorithm designed by sociopaths to maximize engagement determine 90% of what you see and hear. Maybe give up your modern phone and switch to a not quite dumb call-text-mp3s and maybe GPS phone. 4K 240fps HDR isn't making you sad, the fact you TV is connected to the Internet and feeding your viewing habits back to Zuckerberg might be. You need an adblocker and 2 hours a day outdoors not a game boy color and a PS1.
>>738340620I love here because I inherited property here. I'm not stupid enough to try and find another house in current year. Besides most of the US is like this. Its either developed city and suburbs, or third world infrastructure with first world grocery prices in the rural areas. Besides the people here are based and the taxes are low.
>>738340795>Glaze the jewZip up Mr Shekel when ur done anon :^)
>zip drivesI didn't need that data anyway.
>>738340970I still have phantom pain for the Windows 7 UI.
>>7383409707 is viable if you use vxkex and don't play AAA slop.
>>738340952>That's a problem with LCDs tooNot even close to the level of CRTs and if you were being honest you'd agree but you seem hellbent on downplaying the issues because you own them still I guess. Don't come at me about restrictive viewing angles with CRTs, I don't know who you're trying to fool. Any angle where an LCD starts looking off, a CRT is like looking at a balloon because of the angle.>you have to fuck with cables on modern TVsThat weigh a tiny fraction as much, are far less bulky and less at risk of toppling over through inertia earned by their bulky mass. This is just a cope way of saying "you're right, this issue that still exists on some level is in fact better with modern TVs than it was with CRTs".>just pull out your TV that already sticks out even farther from the wallYeah like I said, having to fuck with your room's layout far more than with modern TVs.>I guess there's [2 major things that denote a piece of video equipment as being worse]Yeah.
retro gaming in general could do with less exposure so prices go down, so we should make it seem lame and cringe so zoomers sell off their collections
>going back and buying tech that you actually own, doesn't require you to subscribe to monthly subscriptions, doesn't require IoT, don't need permanent internet connections is bad
>>738329031Some people like old tech.No need to be a bitch about it
>>738340990I was talking about playing Earthbound. I wouldn't pay $150 for a video game. >DS but that's not retroI'd say the DS is retro. Handheld consoles as a concept are retro since they don't exist anymore. Closest you have these days are portable tablet consoles like the Switch and Deck, and those neither operate like nor resemble actual handhelds. Plus it came out 22 years ago.
>>738341225You're the one who seems obsessed with sucking off jewish penis so I'll leave it to you, gayboy. I'll be enjoying my emulated games without pretending that a shitty 30-year-old PC is anything but a crappy meme.>>738341408Lets not pretend these zoomer faggots aren't also using a modern PC and smartphone. Can't post on social media with a Windows 95 computer now can you?
>>738340970>>738341250>>738341230I don’t remember but I think 7 was the last version to run 16bit games nativelyWhich was never a problem with dosbox anyways but still, Chips Challenge is my jam
>>738339237>degaussing the computer in the middle of computer class and having nearby computers screens shake because of itit's the thing i miss the most about those screens
>>738341152Why drive a Model T? Because the different experience is fun. Some people like to work with hand tools instead of power tools. That doesn't make them stupid.
>>738341163But I want a gameboy color and a ps1. I've already ditched algorithms for the most part, I just also like old tech.
>>738329280spbp
>>738341536Actually its 10 that was, since it was the last version to have a 32 bit edition, and ntvdm (the dos compatibility layer) was 32 bit only.
>>738341492>The guy was being a jew>defend a jew>avoid jew trickery by emulating shit like a normal person????
>>738341859The guy just said that it's pathetic and cringe to live vicariously and unproductively in a time that doesn't exist anymore. I guess to you the word "productive" can only mean serving a jewish master so you jumped straight there. And now anyone who calls you a retard must also be subservient to a jewish master too. Again you can suck jewish cock if you like, you seem obsessed with the idea so I'll leave you to it.
>>738330070They don't need to buy old hardware for that, you can play almost all old games on modern computers in some way or another.
>>738342217It's about the "authenticity". It's the same logic as buying retro consoles like the original SNES instead of just using an emulator like a rational person.
>>738341685>drive>workYou're not really doing anything with these rigs, just putting in skyrim-modding-tier levels of work to get them even functional and then maybe you can play solitaire or minesweeper on them or load an old failing floppy disk that has a muffin recipe. I agree that it being fun is enough but the analogy is more like restoring an old model T visually and letting it sit in your driveway to admire.
>>738340292I don't use Ebay exclusively, I go to flea markets, estate sales, people I've met in the local scene, and loads of other sites and proxies. I track values through Pricecharting.com. I don't buy anything above the average value and I almost exclusively use the best offer feature. Ebay isn't as heinous as you might think, you just need to play some mind games and do a bit of math. My best advice is 15 is a magic number and you gotta know when to balk. You can best offer around 15% off of the asking price and it usually gets the sellers biting immediately. It's almost a goldilocks number that's low enough for the seller to bite and high enough to take a significant chunk off the price. If the seller plays hardball or is too firm on their asking price then just balk. A huge part of the retro collecting scene is the waiting game. You've gotta be vigilant and act quickly when a deal shows up. I once got a CIB copy of Chibi Robo on GameCube for $45 back in 2019, and that was pretty low even for then. Had a friend back in 2020 that sold me a copy of Cubivore for $100. Got a Steel Battalion controller, fully working, pedals and all for $60 from a local guy because of repeat business w/ him. Got a Mortal Kombat 9 tournament controller signed by 11~12 of people who worked on the game including Ed Boon for $25 on Facebook Marketplace after it was saved from the dump. It's just a matter of keeping your eyes peeled, acting/thinking quickly, and paying in cash for in-person deals since it usually secures your deal with the seller. Don't get me wrong, hunting for one specific thing will absolutely demoralize you, but you can also pick up cheap lots and use dupes as trades for things you might actually be interested in. More people are gonna be inclined to buy Mario 3 and Zelda than they are some shit like Snake Rattle and Roll or Mighty Bomb Jack so you can leverage your dupes pretty easily to pick up some good stuff. It's all about effective haggling and networking.
>>738341281> a CRT is like looking at a balloon because of the angle.They made flat screen crts, I have one in my living room. Not that curved screens are that bad. I regularly use my tube while laying on the floor and its fine. >That weigh a tiny fraction as much, They're really top heavy and unbalanced. CRTs at least sit still while you're working on them, LCDs topple over really easy. >less at risk of toppling over through inertia earned by their bulky massThey're more at risk of falling over precisely because they don't have inertia holding them in place. That's why everyone has to bolt them to the wall now, to keep their kids or pets from knocking them over. If you have the tube on a properly sized table or entertainment center then its easy to turn around and work on. >This is just a cope way of saying "you're right, this issue that still exists on some level is in fact better with modern TVs than it was with CRTs".Its worse on modern tvs because they're unbalanced. And as a side issue about cables, they have no ports. New TVs these days have two hdmi ports, a single coax, and that's it. Compare that to my projection set from 2003 that has 3 composite ports, 3 component ports, a coah, an hdmi, and 3 s-video. I know a lot if those ports aren't in use anymore, but they could at least give me more hdmi and some display port. >Yeah like I said, having to fuck with your room's layout far more than with modern TVs.And like I said you have to do that with LCDs just as much, if not more. >I guess there's [2 major things that denote a piece of video equipment as being worse]If you don't move and watch old media then its not an issue. I've yet to find a movie that I wanted to watch at a higher resolution than 1080.
>>738341460I'm inclined to agree on the DS being retro but when I said "not retro" I meant specifically in regards to the board's rules.
>>738341492>Can't post on social media with a Windows 95 computer now can you?You'd be surprised. Browservice lets you use modern chrome from Windows 3.1 if you want to.
>>738342217I have a second 'modern' computer I use for old games, it has an i5 2500k and triple boots windows xp, 7 and 10. My main PC has a ryzen 9800x3d but I just don't like using it, everything works too well for it to be enjoyable.
>>738342530You're not doing much with a model T either. It has a max speed of 35 mph going downhill. That's illegally slow on a lot of roads, and of course its lacking in basically all legally mandated safety features, doesn't even have lights. >maybe you can play solitaire or minesweeper on them or load an old failing floppy disk that has a muffin recipeI use my 2003 P4 machine as my daily driver. I watch anime, shitpost, game, draw, program, and write on it. If I wanted to use a proxy for video decoding and web rendering then I could get by with even less.
>>738342660The cutoff is 2005, right? That would make the DS retro.
>>738342593>CRTs are so bulky and heavy that they are less likely to start toppling overThey start falling more easily but they are incredibly easy to manipulate an control for the same reason.>modern TVs have fewer portsand a splitter is cheap as hell, that's a non-issue so again getting back there is again easier because of the lower weight and smaller footprint in a room.>you have to do that just as much with LCDsYou do not. It's possible that you haven't used an LCD since they first started rolling them out and you decided to eschew the technology but you can view them just fine with a good picture from angles that bubble CRTs with they could.I feel like you're operating under the assumption that nobody has actually used a CRT but you, but I remember just fine how clunky and annoying they are to move and manipulate. Every fix or excuse you make only works if you never ever for the rest of your life need to move a CRT for any reason. If that's your life then have at it but I will rearrange my living spaces occasionally as I get new furniture and I am thankful every time I'm not stuck in the past like you.
>>738337203This is because America is a non-white country now.>>738339601We used to use variable bit rate encoded mp3s back then because of the file size issues with lossless formats, like 10-15x difference.>>738342386Old PC games are just as authentic an experience on modern hardware though. Some need fan patches or some work on Linux compatibility layers better than modern jeeted windows. Most all old DOS games tend to run better emulated because they were from an era where things like speed limits and framerate caps didn't even exist and you can set things like the amount of cpu cycles in an emulator to get them running at proper speeds as well as emulate hardware sound platforms that were super expensive back then.
The latter. It's a natural generational response to boomers' obsession with technology to fulfill their dreams of living in le heckin Star Trek or whatever.
>>738343170>They start falling more easily but they are incredibly easy to manipulate an control for the same reason.LCDs as opposed to CRTs, I mean
>>738343165From the sticky>Retro gaming means platforms launched in 2001 and earlier, and official game titles for those platforms released no later than December 2007 (homebrew console games made after this date will be permitted).So unfortunately no.
>>738329031It's preformative. They don't actually want to live in a world with 90's tech, they want the older people they look up to to think they do. If they want persistent copies of media they can just download them to high TB NVME drives instead of scrounging for ancient HDDs or DVDs. If they want to play old games instead of modern slop they can just emulate any gen they want on a modern computer without the need to go "thrifting" for ancient consoles and cartridges.
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>>738343527>If they want to play old games instead of modern slop they can just emulate any gen they want on a modern computer without the need to go "thrifting" for ancient consoles and cartridges.It's the best vidya generation in its own way to grow up in for this reason. You can grow up playing anything you really want that doesn't require a live service component, and you can generally do so with potato-level modern hardware and storage space so you don't need to have you or your parents break the bank to get the games you want.
>>738343170>They start falling more easily but they are incredibly easy to manipulate an control for the same reasonIn my experience its hard to make them fall. Though once they start, they are very hard to stop. I've seen LCDs fall over because someone's knee hit a table. >It's possible that you haven't used an LCD since they first started rolling them oI have LCDs in my house, I just don't like using them. The only benefit they have is that they're easier to bring in, which isn't an issue since I'm never gonna move and only replace TVs when they break. Even then moving tubes isn't that bad. The only one that was actually prohibitively heavy to move is the projection set I have in the basement. But I make no claims of projection televisions being good. I got that thing purely because its a white elephant.
>>738338634King post in a sea of shit.
>>738343193>Old PC games are just as authentic an experience on modern hardware though.They aren't though. As an example, the authentic experience for FEAR is installing it from CD on an XP computer, playing with a ps/2 mouse and keyboard, on a crt, at 40 fps medium settings because that's all the GeForce 6200 in your Dell office box can manage. For DOS, fair enough. But some people like fighting with sounblaster settings and CPU speed to play games.
>>738343326What an oddly specific definition. I don't see why they bother excluding games by year when they already exclude consoles.
>>738343527I just like the tech. Its fun. Don't really give a shit if millennials approve or not. Though personally I'd rather have tech revert to the mid 2000s because things were better then.
>>738342723>Browservice uses a proxy modern computer to load the actual webpage and then sends the webpage via images to the old machine, it then sends keystrokes/mouseclicks back to the proxy computer from the old machine to enable "web browsing", which in turn updates the images it gets from the proxy computerThis is so funny and pointless but at the same time I'm glad autists keep making shit like this. It's like saying you can make a horse too old to race compete in racing events again, but the solution is just duct taping it to a faster horse.
>>738344243>As an example, the authentic experience for FEAR is installing it from CD on an XP computer, playing with a ps/2 mouse and keyboard, on a crt, at 40 fps medium settings because that's all the GeForce 6200 in your Dell office box can manageThere is no single "authentic experience" with PC gaming, ESPECIALLY during that time. With consoles you could make an argument here for aspects of the experience, but with PC games? Fuck no wtf are you talking about? My friend was all-in on the booming advances and played that shit on max settings butter smooth with a giant screen, while I chugged it on minimum settings just to make it run and got used to such choppy nonsense because I didn't have the means at the time.
Zoomers/Gen Alpha rejecting modern slop and streaming services to return to the concept of ownership is 100% a good thing, but it just means corporations are just going to get more desperate in the future to lock down personal computers so that sort of thing is no longer possible. We need to be especially alert for any bullshit legislation they try to lobby for.
>>738342071You are the jew here buddy for agreeing with him, I accept your concession.>No u retardMelty projecting
>>738344606Its not like it requires much power or work. You can just have your media server pull double duty as a chrome proxy. Or if you don't have one of those, you can use a $8 raspberry pi that runs on usb power. A lot of computer components really are just second computers with their own processor and bios running their own code, so its not too different from that. Or that different from a router in principle.
>>738329031>uncstalgiafag :)>uncstalgiafag, zoomer :(
>>738344792Well it is *an* authentic experience. I had a lot of fun playing FEAR on my retro rig.
>zoomers are too young to remember running Doom 2 as a tiny square on your monitor because it was the only way to get it to run at a decent framerate. I'm nostalgic for it but at the same time it's pretty shit compared to what we can do today
>>738345138You can actually get better performance in Doom on era appropriate hardware than you could in 93. FastDoom, RealDoom (the source port, not the mass shooter wad), and Doom8088 all run great even on slow 386 processors.
>>738345108It's not *the* authentic experience. There really is no *the* single authentic experience even when it comes to hardware during that or most periods of PC gaming.
>>738329031>Is this pathetic?Don't care, let me see if I still have my 486 in the attic and can possibly palm it off on some zoomzoom
>>738344915>We need to be especially alert for any bullshit legislation they try to lobby forIt's already too late for that. Did you ever see the leaked NSA catalog? One of the items was a virus that was saved in the bios. Which made it basically undetectable to about 99.9% of computer users. The problem was they didn't have an easy way to infect the bios.What they did was intercept packages en route and swap them out for an identical, but infected mobo. The package wasn't even slowed down or anything because of it. It continued to its destination on time and you had no reason to be concerned.I imagine things have moved on a bit since then because that was in 2008.
>>738329884>Vinyl sound better.Vinyl is not going to make an album sound magically better if it's produced like digital flat ass like most modern albums are. Oldies sure but modern music albums are worthless unless it was made by someone who got out of their way to give depth and used the right equipment.
>>738329031I mean they're admitting stuff was better for gen xers and millennials so I dont blame them
>>738344915except they aren't rejecting streams, short form content and infinity scrolling, social media tied to a real identity etc. go look at all these great 90's/00's songs zoomers have latched onto via tiktok on youtube. every single time you'll see the massive spike in viewship at the point where the song is tiktok famous. that's all they care about, five seconds of the song. all this fetishization of analog is fueled by yt shorts and tiktoks with asmr mics used to enhance "that tactile experience." it's another desperate gasp of consumerism, but now more shallow and pedantic than even millennials were with their vinyl collections. i was hopeful for the zoomers five years ago when i saw stuff like dnb, jungle, deep house etc making a comeback with younger people online. but all they can and have done is make derivative music that sounds stuck in 2002 with fake PS1 cover art. it's like millenials getting psyop'd by boomers with rock music but worse because the zoomers have done it to themselves in some weird delusion they wish it was the early 2000's.
>>738329884>2. Vinyl sound better.As someone with good speakers, amp, turntable, and record collection... no it doesnt.
>>738345575Ok well that's the average poorfag poverty pony experience in the early 2000s, or reflective of it. Just like how the g3258 and 750 ti combo was a really common low end setup in the 2010s.
is buying a small (13") crt tv off ebay a stupid idea? what are the odds it gets here unbroken?
>LIVE AGAINNNN>ALL ROADS END>I'LL BE COMING HOOOOME>TEND YOUR LIFE>CAUSE ON THIS NIGHT>I'LL BE COMING HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOME
I grew up in the 90s and knowing you've already seen the peak is bad enough, can't imagine living your life knowing you came in right after the closing bell
>>738344980I'm not the one who sees the word "productive" and immediately thinks of serving jews and sucking jewish penis lmaoYou're in a perpetual state of concession to your yiddish masters, both financially and orally.
>>738346313yesit will get to you broken unless the seller knows what they're doing
>>738329884Vinyl doesn't sound better. It's roughly equivalent to 14-bit audio at 28000 Hz.
>>738329884People used to collect and preserve shit like the Commodore and Apple II and now time has advanced far enough ahead that people want to collect and preserve 90s shit like Gateways and Presarios. Whatever. Same basic idea.
>>738329573im head of ecommerce for a group of businesses and life is good30 odd years old and absolutely techmog all of the boomers on the board and in the exec team so they see me as a god and everything I push for gets signed offPlus my area of sales just grows year on year regardless of what we do so my bonuses are nice
>>738329031We want an alternative lifestyle to the shitty one being pushed by the establishment. The toxic nostalgia is a problem, yes, but I do want to own my fucking stuff as much as you do so why don't we fucking cooperate here and figure out a solution?
>>738341492nigga there are people autistic enough to make webbrowsers for a fucking Amiga
Why don't more games come out that target this crowd that's really into the 90s?
>>738348190They remake/re-release 90s games all the time
>>738329031Our fathers didnt think badly if we though vynils sounded better because they agreed, they actually did and still do. Never a boomer thought it was pathetic if you wanted to see 12 angry man.I think you are patethic. Our generation is the most pathetic that ever was.Everything sucks for us, it sucked back then, even though we pretend now it was the golden times. Old peopel suck, young people suck, our generation is tranny coded, we have our minds full of gore. New vidya? auto sucks of course. Old vidya? its escapism.fftaGive me a break. The wors thing outdare is the constant, never ending cry of my generation, the milenials. The most horrid, cowardly, people out there. All dead inside and transformed into monsters in some way or another.
>>738348190Have you missed the torrent of "90s ps1 style" games coming out for the past ten years?
>>738337624Most modern tv's are "smart" tv's as in they also have internet for things like streaming. The remotes to them even has a Netflix and Amazon button. The market it still being kept alive by gen X's, boomers, and older and tech illiterates because that's the only way they know how to get their entertainment and "news" and will call you crazy for getting your news online.
>>738348316So are you illiterate or just ESL
I'm guessing his father is the real brains of the operation.
>>738348190Have you missed the decade of pixel indie shit?
>>738348291>>738348490No I mean games that actually capture the aesthetic of the 90s, not of 90s videogames.
>>738348495they also send a screenshot of whats displaying on screen to external servers every 2mins
>>738348291Think that has less to do with zooms unc-ing it up and more with nostalgic millenials and a DIRE crisis of creativity or balls to try something new and potential fail Just not exactly sure how regurgitating some old stuff, smearing woke shittery censorship all over it and having that fail is any better
>>738329031>zip driveswew lad this zoom zoom is going back too far even I was a basically a babby when those things were around and I'm ancient.
>>738329884Vinyl sounds worse and literally degrades every time you play it, not that zooms would know that because they don't actually use it
>>738349021Zoomers do use vinyl, they just use it on shitty Crosley all in 1 turntables.
Is this not better than millennoids just mindlessly accepting whatever new slop the corporations feed them?
>>738349124Says the tiktok generation
>>738348861There was that Robocop game. Cyberpunk is pretty retro too. And most of these retro low poly horror games are set in the 90s.
>>738349259The difference is you don't have to pay for TikTok
>>738349339He'll tell you that you pay in privacy and data but it's not like that's not happening for everyone else too.
>>738349339Damn you let them harvest your data for FREE?
>>738349454you forgot about the tortured braincells begging for a quick death, but I supposed most users got numb to that already
>>738349631I'm on /v/, hard for either of us to forget about that buddy boy.
>be me>portable cellphones didnt exist yet>bei n a relationship with school sweetheart>portable cellphones invented>buy 2, one for me one for her>next thing i know she uses it to cheatthank you technology
>>738329031im a zoomer, scary i knownobody from my generation does this in the spaces im in not even in niche circles. everyone i know just emulates or runs games in a vmthis is mostly a millennial thing, not saying its impossible for every zoomer to do it but most of us don't see the value in collecting this or just trendchase until the fad dies out and they find the new thing to "feel nostalgic" about. especially hate the latter since its just underaged kids doing it for clicks and viewsemulating is the way to go today, otherwise either grow up or fork out 500 bucks to get an oldschool build going if you actually lived through that era
>>738347938Just stop using streaming, it's that simple. There is way too much fearmongering about a perceived loss of ownership. DVD, CD and BD were always produced. You just have to buy them.>>738349124Millenals are first generation of hipsters, now it's mainstream.
>>738329031nobody tell them that you eitehr used 1.44mb or CD/DVD this was a fucking fad
>>738346726>Hasn't refuted my points>lmao evenCope, seethe, and concession running through your that little brain of yours all is left is acceptance
Should I get a sega saturn or sega dreamcast? I never had a sega and want to play some of the games I saw on isekai ojisan like alien soldier. Would it be a meme to play old games I don't have nostalgia for or would they be actually good? anyone know some good 2d games for sega worth playing?
Good thing we have emulators now. If I had nostalgia episode I just run 86box
If zoomers love the 90s so much they should get rid of their wifi and downgrade to dial-up.I'm certain that watching webpages and even images take several minutes to load would make them not want to relive the 90s.
>>738350774Saturn has a great library if you know or dont mind Japanese
>>738350906I just thought of it. Would it easier or better to just get a steam link type thingy and a controller and just emulate sega consoles from my pc to my tv? I would probably get a R4 cart thing for it because I don't wanna pay 100$ each game. Is it worth it for the experience or is it just a meme?
Zip drives never took off as CD Burners were more effective. I don't get it. The only thing I'll put over is VHS tapes and CRT televisions. I have 4 CRTs and enough tapes to re-create my own video store.
>>738351104I have a V-Saturn with a MODE. It's my favorite console I never had in its time.
>>738329031>I want to RETVRN but I would never, ever, ever, ever, EVER give up my smartphone.
>>738351174There was a period of time when Zip drives were popular. CD burners didn’t become affordable until years later.
>>738329031of course no millennial ever collected hardware older than himself. There isn't a whole subgenre of youtube that's just balding millennials and their ancient hardware collections.
>>738351104>>738350774meme meme meme meme meme
>>738329031no different from millenials who own record players and buy vinyls
70s woodgrain, man
>>738329884Vinyls are a cool medium, but they only really shine if you can't find some old or obscure album in high definition audio file
I recently inherited a box full of zip disks from my aunt. They're full of info and webpages for an ElfQuest roleplay group she was apparently a part of back in the late 90s.
>>738352842The only woodgrain items I have are a cassette tape drawer and an Atari 2600.
>>738329031wouldnt it make more sense to just install win95 or xp on a modern budget computer and then get an old monitor and cd/floppy reader
>>738329031It is literally impossible to blame them for this to be honest. Most older generations fondly recall the 90s as being a time of hopefulness and optimism, compared to our modern hellscape, of course some zoomers are gonna try to capture even the smallest piece of that for themselves. That line from the matrix about the 90s being the peak of human civilization isn't even wrong.
>>738329031Based. Please take me back home, zoomzooms...
>>738350675Your "point" is "anon said productive and I think it's jews". That's not a point, it's telling on yourself. The fact that you don't deny any of what I'm saying about you says more than enough.
>>738329031>Man baffled that someone is buying older tech.These types of people have existed forever.
>>738346726That's what being "productive" is. The fact that you cannot recognize this propaganda and think it is normal to tell people to be "productive" shows enough as is. Why must the things we do for the joy of doing them be considered valuable producers of something for someone? Besides the joy that they bring us that is. You have been successfully indoctrinated into being nothing more than a servitor drone and you lash out when people tell you how insane that is.
>>738355580>Your "point" is "anon said productive and I think it's jews".Never said that and reading comprehension strikes again, I accept your concession again.
>>738331795The CoD install is actually malicious design. They do it on purpose.
>>738340556If I didn't have a CRT TV I'd probably get a Retrotink or OSSC upscaler. I'd emulate if I was too poor for that but fortunately I'm not. >>738340680No matter where you buy your retro vidya, prices are influenced by the going rate on ebay. I once asked some guy at a flea market how much a PS1 light gun would cost and he looked up ebay listings right in front of me. There are rare exceptions like random garage sales where someone's mom is trying to offload all of their shit but you have to be lucky because ebay resellers tend to pick those clean pretty quickly. >>738342543I mean the problem isn't really ebay itself, it's the fact that collecting retro games has become an investment for so many retards. A collector's sense of value is completely warped and these are the people influencing prices across every resale platform. Like, if you're just comparing what you paid to the current market then yeah getting Cubivore for $100 instead of the current CIB price of $600 seems like a great deal. But if you're not treating it like part of your stock portfolio and you're just buying games that you want to play then is Cubivore even worth $100? No offense if you're a massive Cubivore fan or something but that game looks lame as fuck to me so I'd only consider it if it was $10, personally. If you don't care about Cubivore I suppose you could flip it and use your profits to buy whatever games you're really interested in, but what is the point? What benefit is there to going through all this trouble when you could just mod your console? I don't think game collectors even care about games as much as they care about the value of the collection itself.
>>738329031>Millennials seethe when zoomers don't know about ancient technology and say nothing is wrong with modern society>Millennials seethe when zoomers have an interest in ancient technology and agree with them about modern society being shitPick a side already, uncs
>>738338405>False nostalgia for a time they were never a part of as a cope for the shitty state of things of today. Do you want them dying of fent overdose on a street corner instead?
>>738352842For the longest time I thought this soijak was LGR. Apparently it's some German guy.
>>738329031Kek, the best part of the 90s wasn't the material aspects at all. It was the zeitgeist. I still have tons of old hardware, music, vidya, even clothing but none of that compares to the lived experience of growing up in the 90s. I think if I had been a zoomer the things I would lament the most by far are the lack of any real mystery to the world and the lack of personal privacy that 90s kids had. We had the internet but we didn't have spastic talking heads telling us everything, or doomscrolls of "did you know" where every fucking molecule under the sun is scrutinized for views.
>>738357012>Never said thatYou did when you read "unproductive" and made it about jews but keep pretending it's not the case now.
>>738329031and it's hilarious how they turns around and call us uncs for the tiniest reason. I'm glad I had a childhood because these niggers at best try to emulate ours. sour grapes, broccoli hairs, sour grapes
>>738352842New Kojima character unlocked
>>738357318I'm the Cubivore guy and you aren't going to like my answer lmao. Apologies in advance. I simply do not believe in modding, specifically hardmods that alter the console or customs like reshells and shit like that. I abhor them and I think they completely defeat the purpose of playing on original hardware. As I said in my first post in this thread, I'm a purist. I would even go as far as to say I'm a diehard purist. I love playing video games on original hardware, and my console setup is wicked, incorporating everything I have. It's an entire room dedicated to my many forms of media w/ a PVM, a WEGA Trinitron, and a 4K OLED panel and a surround sound system that everything goes through. I simply love having the original discs, carts, cards, peripherals, accessories and everything in between because I care about authenticity. I can play cassettes, CDs, DVDs, Blu-Rays, VHS tapes, and nearly every mainstream console of the last 50 years. I've got a PC as well. The whole point of buying original hardware is to experience the games as they were originally intended to be presented. It's the difference between the theatrical cut of Star Wars and the edited special editions. Hardmodding the console changes what it is on a fundamental level. The experience is no longer how it was originally, which is the whole point on why you'd spend these prices on the secondhand market. At that point, you should just emulate because it's effectively the same thing. Softmods & aftermarket peripherals like flashcarts are a different story, as they're entirely within the console's capabilities by default. That's how I see things anyway. I'm just a hardcore purist and that's what it is. I love my physical media and I simply cannot help it!
>>738336796some people have realized that is actually baby boomers who are in controlled and have fucked the system beyond belief. even to this day people don't realize pensions are a ponzi schieme.
>>738330596My first computer was 75 MHz and had only 16 MB of ram.
>>738329031Pathetic. They cling to tangible surface level shit from our time, to escape the modern nightmare era they created. Like immigrants fleeing from their own shithole country they destroyed. Those of us who grew up with box tvs, floppy discs, analog garbage, dont actually want to go back to that. All i miss, is there was no woke shit thats literally all. Otherwise everything right now is fine.
>>738329031I actually waited to have kids until gen z ended just so they wouldnt have to be lumped in with them.
>>738331670It's kinda crazy how when I was in elementary school, there were flyers everywhere and we were constantly reminded of NEVER using our real name online or giving it to anyone.
>>738367629>to escape the modern nightmare era they created.In what way did zoomers create the dogshit societal conditions forced upon them? Gen X/boomers created this shit and with each passing day millennials shoulder more of the blame for not fixing it. Give it 10-20 years and you can start blaming gen Z but now is not the time.
>>738329031So you were the only one that didn't get out your dad's old records and play them on a dusty turntable?Get fucked, dude. Let them like what they like.
So glad i had my own childhood instead of larping as my parents like faggot holy shit
>>738329031Maybe some people just actually like things and find them neat, instead of being desperate for escapism like you are
>>738367629>there was no woke shitlmao ALL of this modern day shit got rolling in the 90s. You were just too young to realize it.
>>738329031I used the fuck out of a ZIP drive while I was at university. Before USB sticks existed, it was the only way to easily move/share data around bigger than a 1.4mb floppy disk. Went through my parents garage the other week and found it again, didnt have time to see what was on the disks.
>>738357130They do it on purpose because by filling your hard drive with just their game, it discourages you from playing other games and stops people uninstalling it because even with gigabit fiber 300gig takes a while. Its just marketing. They're making their product essential to keep on someone's console hard drive.
>>7383359892010~2014 or so was still the old internet's last hurrah. Yeah 2012 had the SJW shit and gamergate, but those were just fringe "lmao what a bunch of retards" things happening on tumblr no-one really cared about at the time. shit declined rapidly from 2014 onwards, and covid killed what was left of cozy online communites thanks to every fucking normie being permanently online for 2 years.
>>738337332yeah the blue boards got fucked hard by covid. /trv/ and /out/ were the worst hit, they went from cozy chill discussion to retards flooding in from /ck/ and /v/ it was so sad too, pre-covid /trv/ used to be actually slow and very informative, you only had to check once every few weeks for a new post or two, but it was so reliable. Covid instantly turned it into 10+ "waaah I cant travel! :(" threads
>>738369776>gamergate,Didn't that shit happen in 2014? Couldn't have been 2012.
>>738367965So now they'll be lumped in with gen alpha, who are infinitely worse. Masterful gambit anon
it is 100% better to be a zoomer buying old shit than a 30 year old boomer buying old shitthe boomer is wallowing in nostalgia, the zoomer is actually exploring something new.
>>738329031Old media has identity. At the very least you have a possession that is yours forever. What do you have after you stop paying for modern subscription service?
>>738358819Holy rent free hop off bro HOLYKEK
>>738329031Maybe even more than the lack of everything online or everything as a service shit I miss how tactile computers and media used to be. My monkey brain loves pushing buttons and opening cases and sliding in discs and chunking in tapes and turning knobs and slapping down the VHS rewinder and just touching things and feeling them react and listening to the sounds they make. Everything has been optimized to be absolutely lifeless and sterile to the point of being completely inhuman and I hate it.
>>738329031i don't really get the obsession with old tech, being an old tech user myself. By that i mean i grow up with old tech. Like i loved my bootleg nes clone gamesystem but i wouldn't pay 100 dollars for the bootleg console and 20-50 dollars for bootleg cartridges. when emulator is readily available.I'm like one of the most patient person ever. Still fixing nearby neighbours old ass pc only capable of running XP or 7 still running on HDD. Reinstalling or fixing software issues usually takes up to a hour with how slow everything is. But i wouldn't really move back for nostalgia sake.>>738330506I was scared to death when i built my new PC and the fans and hdd was relatively dead silent compared to the old war machine noise family computer.
>>738329031As long as they aren't paying vintage reseller prices, then I say based. I've found some nice hardware at thrift shops for really cheap. >3DFX voodoo cards>Zip drives and disks>386 and 486 motherboards>Windows 95 era laptops>Thrustmaster joysticksWhy not enjoy some retro stuff? Modern gaming is becoming more and more cancer. But if you are getting this stuff purely to resell it at maximum price, then fuck you. You are no fren.
