>the "face" of the game is the worst characterwhat are some examples of this
>150 hp>in a game filled with crowd control
>>738329170Spy is the worst class everyone knows this
>>738329170How come literally every single person who obsesses over this dogshit gacha gaas slop is a fucking transowman?
>>738329170Arsene in p5 i guess
>>738329170Heavy is funny.
>>738329170Smash bros brawl mario
>>738329589https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4egmvZed0rA
>>738329579Spy is the worst in terms of being a effective class. Too impractical in any competent environment.Heavy is the worst in terms of general game design in that he makes the game less fun.
that's not spy though
>>738331674?there are 7 other characters worse than him
>>738333028>Heavy is the worst in terms of general game design in that he makes the game less fun.
>>738333173Predictable answer but no. I can always flank snipers and get the satisfaction of an easy kill when I do so. And they're only a problem during the rare case of getting one that's actually good (or using an aimbot).With heavy there is no satisfaction to be had with flanking. In a game where the idea is to get close to your targets it's heavy, not sniper, where that rule is broken. And they're easy as fuck to play so getting a competant one is far far more common.
>>738333517>heavy is bad because he can't flank
>>738333173This would be true if most snipers were competent. Thankfully, for our sake, most sniper fags are complete tards.
>>738333517A solo Heavy with no pocket is the most easily countered and least-effective class in the game.
>crash team racing>balanced kart stats are awful>best kart type is speed, so youre playing tiny or dingodile
>>738333028being weak and badly designed seems worse than being just plain weak
>>738333646Yep that's the level of bad reading comprehension I'd expect. Notice how I was talking about flanking the sniper? So when I bring up heavy, that would mean I'm talking about flanking the heavy.>>738333752And a sniper who runs at his targets is even less effective. Why are you insisting on playing the class wrong?
>>738333694Balancing around skill/competency is okay if it gets you a bit stronger than the other alternativesthis fucking strong isn't.
>>738333876>Why are you insisting on playing the class wrong?That has nothing to do with playstyle. Are you retarded? You can't summon a Medic from thin air or force them to pocket you.It sounds like your problem is with Medic, not Heavy.
>>738333173God I used to love playing sniper so much when I was a teenager - early-20s nolife retard. I got really good at it for a while, like good enough to cause serious problems in pubs, not to play comp properly or anything. But now it's over and I only play singleplayer games.Kind of a shame that you'll literally never see another FPS with a class that effective at lane denial, but TF2 really did kind of prove why it's a bad idea.
>>738333973>You can't summon a Medic from thin air or force them to pocket you.Why yes, that is another reason why Heavy is a badly designed class. Thank you for contributing to my point.>It sounds like your problem is with Medic, not Heavy.I have a problem with both. But the problem with heavy is not present when medic is healing another class. So there clearly is a problem inherent to Heavy as well.
>>738334190>but the problem with heavy is not present when medic is healing another classlolyou are not good at the game
>>738334246I'm not good at the game, because I'm able to deal with when medic is healing the classes you consider more effective? That doesn't make any sense anon.
>>738333028>Heavy is the worst in terms of general game design in that he makes the game less fun.t. never played against a turbovirgin Sniper or Spy main with 10k hours on the class
>>738329579spy is weak by designheavy (and pyro) are weak because of poor balancing
>>738334328>[With snipers] they're only a problem during the rare case of getting one that's actually good (or using an aimbot).>[With heavy] they're easy as fuck to play so getting a competant one is far far more common.This was already said earlier in the thread. Thread isn't even that long. What the hell anon:?
