Most gamers do not buy games at full price anymore. Especially older gamers are most unlikely to pay full prices for games.https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/62-of-hardcore-players-no-longer-buy-full-price-games-survey-suggests/
I wonder why.
No way! People aren't willing to pay $80 for a virtual toy? Shocker!
>>738330429If there's a new game I genuinely want on PC I'll pirate it and buy it down the road if I like it, if it's only on console I'll wait a few weeks after launch and buy a new copy on Ebay for like 30% off.
>>738330429The games are weak
Sales and discounts should only be available for G-d's Chosen People. Goyim pay quadruple full price.
>>738330429I wish this article was a little more clear about what its topic is.
>>738330429They don't release "full" games anymore.Why the fuck wouldn't I wait a year for the game to be finished, include all the DLC and be half the price?Publishers fucked themselves with their greedy half ass approached to development and DLC practices, the market has simply adapted to it.
>>738330429>BuyingSuckers.
>>738330429Why would I pay more for something I know will be less later?
games are worse, more expensive, and launch in poor states that benefit from performance and content updatesif you wait the game is better and you pay less for itbut go ahead, charge even more starting with GTA V, I'm sure it'll work out great for everyone else
>>738330429>anymoreI never did.
>Price goes up>Fewer people buyNo one had any way to know this could happen, not even the greatest minds of economics.
>>738330429I never feel good after buying a full price game I haven't done it in years.
Manygames require multiple updates to be launch ready nowadays and there's too much AAA flops and indie shovelware on the market.7th gen was the last time that gaming was great despite the piss filters and 30fps at 720p.
>>738331264We wouldn't have to keep raising the price of everything if you filthy stupid goyim would just surrender all of your shekels to G-d's Chosen People, so it's all your fault for being bad goyim.
I just bought a few games on a Steam sale and the price I paid was that of a normal full priced game, or what should be. 70-80€ for a game or 100€ for the deluxe (read: full experience) is ludicrous. They should be on their knees thanking me for even buying their games on a sale because soon I won't even do that. It'll be the high seas soon.
>>738330429>overall quality decrease>games get "complete edition" 1-2 year later with all DLC, bug fixes, etc included>most games arent worth more than 30$ max
I think Dragon's Dogma 2 was the last AAA game I bought, wasn't the worst game ever but it wasn't as good as the first game and they charged you I think $70 for it on release so that soured the experience even more. AAA games are $80 now? Fuck that they aren't even worth $30.
>>738330429>people aren't that retardedwell that was surprising
>they release buggy unfinished rushed games for full price>savvy gamers know to wait until they fix the bugs and lower the price wow i wonder why gamers dont buy full games anymore
I can't even remember the last time I bought a game for more than $50, at launch or otherwise.Hell, I can't even remember the last time I bought a western AAA game, if I even have at all.
>>738330429The other 38% are mostly Nintendo trannies
That is not my problem.
>>738330429There is so much good shit to play for fair prices that i'll never get around to playing it all it's crazy....I'm set for life. Paying $80+ for AAA slop is absolutely retarded and only cattle regulary do it.
>>738331561They're already $80 here in Canada and sometimes digital one goes up to $90. I only buy physical so it generally drop after a few months.
>games inevitably discount themselves after a month or sometimes even a couple weeks>people with the largest libraries and experiences with being burned by hype trains are least likely to buy games upon releaseWhat a shocker.
theres nothing worth buying. i buy MAYBE 2 or 3 new games a year, and its been that way for a decade+there is no reason to buy a game on launch now if you aren't really interested in it. the game will get patched and improved for you if you just wait a few months for a sale, it always happens
Might buy Bloodstained, Castlevania, or DMC6 on release but that's probably it. If they have a bunch of deluxe editions or preorder bonuses I'll probably just pirate them to get the full game though
>>738330429I almost never did. It was either bargain bin or I just rented them for 3/5/7 days for less than $10, beat them, then rent another. There were probably ever a handful of games I bought full price. Then you got PC and the massive backlog. It's even worse now because there's too many games.Not sure who bothers to buy games on release any more... but if they're excited enough to do so, I kinda envy them for that joy.... and maybe not so much their potential following disappointment.
give me one single reason to buy a game on release, day 1one single reason
>>738330429I stopped buying games on release a long time ago and only ever buy them for $20 max.
It’s a shame tendies are such cattle. I’d love for Nintendo to do deeper and more frequent sales.
>>738330429Too many games released that are>not full games>shit>unfinished>overpricedIn an era where people dont have much disposable money and essentials are more expensive, spending on a full priced game after being burned by so many shit games is hard to justify
>>738330429>Full priceNever pay more than 20$ for a game (not adjusted for inflation ever, it's always a static 20$). The only reason that CDs didn't universally lower game prices to 20$ or less is because major publishers like EA started price-fixing cartels so that their sportsslop would sell at the same price as everything else and this practice has become normalized by publishers, but is still subconsciously rejected by mentally healthy consumers.
>>738330429I've spent more than $40 for a video game maybe a dozen times in the last 15 years
Probably because they know that most games will be 45% off in a month
>>738330429If I can't buy your game for $20 or less during a Steam sale, I'm not buying your game. I'm not paying a penny more. Simple as.
Are there even any games worth playing? I got a fibre connection and I'm about to buy a tub of hard drives so I can download a bunch of terabyte sized games....But is there anything worth even playing? RDR2 seems cool.. GTA and idk fighting games IDK
>>738330429The last title I bought at release was The Orange Box in 2007
>>738331725>>738332229>i HAVE to make this about Nintendo Snoys are truly pitiful creatures
If you don't pay 100 dollars for a video game then you lost tranny
>>738330429I don't buy games at allI have to finish my backlog The days of my buying like a retard are over at least for nowI must finish or at least try all my games before I jump to mew ones
>>738330429Kek, remember when they said 80 dollar games are the new normal? And soon to be 100? Turns out losing most of your customers is the new normal!
>>738330429More money than I've ever had in my 30s but games just aren't worth 60, 70, 80 bucks to me. Most of them are barely worth 40 imo
>>738331264Imagine being a fly on the wall in these shareholders meeting where ceo's have to explain why the company is tanking. Must be great, like that one ubisoft meeting
This is a good thing, instead of spending half a billion making a memeshit hype game, make something unique that actually handles the test of time. IIRC over half of Capcom's profits are from their back catalogue now, make good memorable games and they keep selling, simple as
>>738330429old games are free and better so...
Roblox
I pay full price for my gaems.The full price of energy and the internet i spend downloading them.I would pirate those both but I am not a nigger splicing cables.
>>738331106Well said, early buyers are getting fucked in the ass, they pay more for less.
>>738332170To support the kind of games you love, anon. Voting with your wallet, ya know?
>>738332648Games are already well over 100, it's just that you can buy the demo for slightly cheaper.And the complete version will still release a year later, you're only paying more because you want to burn money.
>>738330429stop being antisemitic
>>738330429Stopped paying full price for games like 10+ years ago with like 1-2 exceptions.Wasn't worth it.Now I pirate everything, let the industry die idc.
>>738331047Yet you depend on them. What does that say about you, dev? You insult your customers too much and they'll eat you alive. It happened to Atari in the 80s and 90s, and it happened to Ubisoft recently.
>>738333047The absolute nerve these other companies have believing charging $80 or more for their yearly annualized slop is justified just because a generational blockbuster game like GTA might do so. Fuck off.
Turns out making the rich richer didn't translate into more profit because even Mr. Moneybags only needs one copy of DiveGrass 27. Funny how it works.
70 dollar games are killing the industry
>>738333205People knew this in the 80s is just that Reagan was a retard with dementia
>>738330429Because luxury items are the first things to go in this economy, and they decided to start charging $80 right around the same time? No shit.
Depend on the game, physical Capcom games go on sale in about 6 months, I'm not going to wait to buy GTA 6 cause it won't go on sale for years
I buy every game I want Day 0 (preorder)Just don't be poor
>>738330429>Raise game prices for incomplete slop no one asked for that is unoptimized and broken>People stop buying games and refuse to buy games at full priceHow could this possibly happen?It really is a mystery!This was supposed to be the decade of the $100 videogame!
>>738331047Kino reference.>>738330429I unironically think the last time I bought a game at complete full MSRP was Cyberpunk 2077 back in 2020 on GOG because I wanted to support the game.Even for brand new titles that come out on PC, they almost always have preorder discounts or lower pre launch prices for brand new keys on sites like GreenManGaming, Billet, or other places. And there's isthereanydeal.com that pulls prices from dozens of further sites.The only people who probably buy games at full price on launch are casuals, normalfags, and the 'ball and gun' gamers who are basically cattle and buy the same game every year.
>OK Board, we are making truckloads of money, more money than we can possibly know what to do with. To make more money, we will up the price of games to $80>WTF why is nobody buying our games at $80!?>Time to fire half our staff and blame gamers.
>>738333410I honestly can't think of any games at this point that I just have to have on day one. Whenever a new Resident Evil comes out, I guess, but that's about it.
Bought Resident Evil Requiem, Pragmata, and Screamer new at full price this year. Going to play Forza Horizon 6 as well. Plenty of good games worth buying. I dont buy into this Gaming is Dead shit at all.
>>738333581For me it was monster hunterNot doing that anymore
>>738332980which makes them wanting to up the price even more ridiculous. They're too greedy.
>>738330429Wonder how they defined "hardcore gamer".
>>738330429I love me a sale as much as the next guy but steam has unironically fucked up people's perceptions on value and money. If you're poor and can't afford full priced games, there's nothing wrong with that but it's odd to expect to be able to play the newest games at release
>>738331086G-d's Chosen People have some of the highest Steam prices though.
The only time I buy a game at full price is when it's some big release that (a) I actually care about and (b) actually want to discuss with other people I know, or you fags. I bought Elden Ring on release because I knew that basically every other person I know would be playing it, so I'd get spoiled and/or get FOMO.Any game that isn't a huge release or some AAA turd I don't give a shit about I can play whenever I want, or just never play like in most cases of overpriced AAA garbage.>>738331106Also this. A lot of the time the games are unfinished, unbalance shit on release. By waiting a year for the sales and the first DLC, I at least get a slightly better game for less.
>>738333659Probably based on the number of new games they purchase a year. For normalfags, it's less than a handful, IIRC
>>738333592>I'm a retard.Good to know anon.
Last time I bought a game on release was MGS5.I learned my lesson. Even Elden Ring had me waiting for at least 20% or so.
>>738330429It plays out like this:1. Gaming journos and "reviewers" hype the fuck out of the new slop with 10/10s2. Bob buys it3. He kinda gaslights himself into liking it because all the reviews said it was good. He's on the team, saying it's good too.4. A few weeks pass and all gamers collectively agree it was actually shit5. Bob realizes he was an idiot and was tricked and also starts losing interest in gaming because he's been playing bad games
Excerpts from the article:>According to the report, 38% of Millennials (people aged 30 – 44) and 42% of Gen Z (those aged 14 – 29) said they still buy full-price games, but only 20% Gen X (people aged 46 – 61) said they would.>Commenting on the report, The Games Business’s Christopher Dring said it reflected a market where consumers have more than ever to play, and less demand to rush out to buy new releases that could also be unpolished at launch.“The market has shifted,” he told VGC. “Consumers are ‘full’ in terms of things to play, watch, and read. Plus, games have a habit of launching unfinished or in need of a patch or two. So, considering those two factors, the drive to rush out day one and purchase a game isn’t there in the way it used to be. The upside is that games are living for longer, and it’s not unusual for big games to sell for years and decades.>According to Karl Stewart, SVP of IGNE Global Marketing, the Generations in Play report is focused on “highly qualified entertainment cinephiles” and not “casuals”. “We’re talking about people who basically say: I only have so many hours in the week, and this is still where I choose to spend my disposable time,” he told the Brands in Play podcast.
>>738330429I have bought 1 full price (~60$) game in 10 years. It was Oblivion Remastered.
>>738333942>The report indicates further diverging habits between the three generations of consumers, including:>* Gen X consumers prioritize Google search for discovering new games, while 85% of Millennials favor YouTube, and Gen Z prioritizes social media.>* Generation X respondents said they favor single-player games, Generation Z prefers multiplayer titles to almost the same degree, and Millennials are almost evenly split.>* Generation X and Millennials are more likely to return to games in order to complete or master them, while Gen Z are more motivated by new customization or community content.>* Consumption of game guides varies by generation, with Gen X indexing higher on tips videos, Millennials on map tools, and Generation Z on build guides.>* Generation X is highly skeptical of AI and more trusting of brand recognition, being 38% less likely to use AI for discovery and 44% less likely to believe that AI summaries are as good as human ones.>Further commenting on the findings, Stewart said that Gen X “come from a point of view of midnight opening, full price games, console base… [they] want to get everything they possibly can, get as much juice out of that lemon as possible.“Whereas you look at Gen Z, who live in a world of platforms… games don’t end, but social and community become a massive part of their DNA. So they want to be a part of a community where they’re able to say, ‘I’m the most informed. I know most about this game.’”
>>738331047no the games are weak
>>738334006Eh fucked up my formatting. Whatever, I leaving it
>>738332761>over half of Capcom's profits are from their back catalogue nowGames are probably pretty unique in that respect compared to movies and shit, aren't theyLike yeah people will just emulate old shit but you can still just leave something up on a digital store at no real cost to yourself forever
>>738331183When you fall for the hypeHow many people bought STS2 day 1 even though the game will be better and cheaper when it goes on sale after leaving early access?Can't miss out on multiplayer during the game's peak popularity
>>738330429"Full price" increased. The quality of "full price" games did not increase. However, the number of non-"full price" games that release every month also increased. Devs ask me to spend the money I'd spend on 5 or 8 games on just 1 game that isn't complete or even worth the time. Of course people aren't buying their products anymore.
>>738333930This happened to me in 2007-2008. I kept buying games that got high scores because way back it used to mean a good game. Like I bought The Sims because it got 90+ in my local game magazine. But around the time I was buying shit like Mass Effect that bored me to death before I finished the tutorial, I just realized I needed to figure out what kind of games I actually might like, by myself, without paid review input.Obviously it's much worse nowadays but still.
>>738333592I really wanted to like Pragmata, but boy am I having a hard time getting into it. I guess I was hoping for something in tone akin to PN03 or Vanquish or something, but I feel like the game is just "Dead Space: Boring Edition", and if you're not biting on how obnoxiously manipulative Diana is as a character, there's kind of no point, especially when I find the hacking mechanic more tedious than anything. I mean, I'll give them credit for trying something different, but it's just not doing it for me. Like you have to play a third-person shooter and Snake at the same time.
>>738330429i feel like i'm being ripped off if i buy a game for full price. i feel like i'm being scammed if the discount is less than it's lowest ever price listed on steam and will either wait until the next time a similar discount comes along or pirate the game.
>>738330429>pay full price ($60+) for an incomplete buggy game with held back content which you have to pay for as wellvs>pay for a goty edition of a game for $20 or less and it contains all content and most bugs fixed unless it was abandonware which you would know before you lost moneyFor absolutely no reason at all more people aren't buying games day 1 full price anymore
>>738333919Well then no shit people who get games on sale end up buying more titles per year, if that is case. The study is biased.
>>738332546>where there is criticism, I must defend the honor of my favorite multibillion dollar company
>>738334407I mean, that's true but there is a bigger pictureRemember people staying up for midnight releases of Halo 2?Where has that excitement gone? People would buy games day 1 if they still had that same trust and passion
>>738334590'more' is still very few games. I think it was a Steam blog post they made about the stats, but most people are playing games from 5+ years ago and buying very, very few new ones each year. I sure as hell am. I probably have 200 hours just replaying the campaigns in DoW Soulstorm in the Definitive Edition at this point.
>>738330429Forget full price, I don't even buy games for more than $5 at this point and will often wait for even cheaper. I have so much shit to play, it has to be seriously competitive.
>>738334723Most people who can't wait a day to pick up a game just buy digitally without having to camp out in front of a gamestop
>>738334723People don't leave their homes not even to buy clothes or even groceries anymore.I'm not going to enter the potential social issue there but these big events like it was for Halo or Skyrim or movies won't happen anymore or will be much rarer.At best we'll tune into our favorite streamers or influencers and accompany their live during release date.
>>738334816Not everyone has autism, anon.
>>738330429You're not a hardcore gamer if you pay for games.
>>738334984No of course not, but the 'people playing older games' trend is universal across Steam. I was just using myself as an example, and I'm a hardcore gamer that's buying and playing way more games in a year than a casual gamer.
>>738330429Everything has stagnated and stalled, across multiple industries. I work in cannabis, and there's layoffs because there's just more supply than demand right now, because everyone's broke.
>>738333592All those new releases had day one CD keys for 18% off. You have bad impulse spending.
>>738334006Gen Z are like fucking aliens to me even though I'm the youngest possible millennial
>>738333942>>738334006I’m not reading all that, what does this have to do with op?
>>738335203>everyone's broke.Meanwhile Sony can't stop burning money chasing a live service game that's supposed to make billionsXbox wants people to pay for a $20+ subscriptionAnd Nintendo gave up on their family friendly pricingMake it make sense
>>738334006Makes sense, younger generations are the poison of this society.
>>738330429Why would I pay full price when it doesn't even let me own the game?
>>738330429A decade without good games.
>>738335552This model has always been the case, even back when you were buying CDs. The only difference now is the ability for a provider to flip a switch and turn off your game library.
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>>738334867>>738334871That's explains some of itAlso why it's so hard for people to rally up behind a new game, everyone is scattered in their homes + algorithms serve different feeds and so there are far fewer points of focus (RIP E3 btw)
>>738330429I only buy a game full price if I know it won't be that popular and I believe the game deserves
>>738330429>buy gamesI can't even remember the last time I bought a game.Barely even need to pirate shit anymore with how many free games there are these days.I don't know how people still keep up with the new release slop cycle
>>738335424It's like everyone everywhere all at once decided to collectively shit their pants. Like the South Park "brown noise".
There are so many old games and indies you can buy for cheap, why would I pay full price for a game? They keep pumping out AAA titles for full price and they don't realize they aren't competing with other AAA games, but tons of older and indie games you can buy for under $20 that you can spend more time with. They cope and think it's because of piracy. But I can buy a game like Onirism for $20 and get 50+ hours out of it. Or I can buy a $80 AAA game and beat it in 8 hours, 6 of which are cutscenes. I don't even want to pirate their overpriced slop but they flatter themselves by telling them I'm pirating it. They need to deal with the fact most people don't want their shitty games even if they are $20. Pirating them isn't worth the disk space or the risk of a DMCA, which is almost non-existent. I have a backlog of games that would take me over 1000 hours to finish. I can just wait for them to go on sale then buy them when I work through other games.
>>738336086>I don't know how people still keep up with the new release slop cycleI guess some people just treat new games as a sort of social eventThey need to buy & play the latest game while it's still in the collective consciousnessMeanwhile nobody will give a shit if you played any dusty old games from your backlog
Maybe if Mr. Shekelberg paid me enough money to pay bills and buy groceries I would be more willing to pay full price for games
>>738330429It’s true.The only time in the last 2 years I paid full price for a game was buying Pokopia for my wife.
>>738336762Thisdesu. AAA games are for the consoletards to subsidize to allow us to buy them half off in a few months.
>>738330429Can confirm. I make a shitload of money, have hundreds of thousands just in cash, and still won't pay more than $10 for a game almost entirely out of spite.
>>738330429This is natural but the increasingly standard practice of releasing a game only for it to need constant patches a year or more after release greatly accelerated this behavior.
>>738333485>This was supposed to be the decade of the $100 videogame!That'll happen as long as people buy consoles.
>>738330429Is this why you guys spend all day shitposting about new game releases instead of playing them?
>>738330429>no longerHere's my secret, OP: i never did.
>>738332170So you can experience all the bug fixes of the first 3-9 months firsthand.
>>738330429>pay full price for a game that's just going to be invariably discounted later>can buy physical media used for a fraction of the price>can borrow games from friends, evenJust always be a couple/few years behind the curve. It's not like there's any games so great that you HAVE TO play them right then and there the minute it's released. I can probably count on.maybe 2 hands the amount of Day 1 buys I've bought over the past 5 years.
>>738337307>Just always be a couple/few years behind the curve. The ultimate method is to be an entire console generation behindYou can build a massive library of game for dirt cheap, even the hardware is cheap since so many people dump their old console when the fancy new gen is out
Games don't launch finished, so why rush to play them at release?
>>738330429>Drive by gas station on the way home today>$4.99Yeah, Mario can go fuck himself.
>>738330429yeah maybe because no one wants to pay $70-$80 for a new game. This is EXACTLY why Game Companies never should have gone public and let Wall Street shareholders come in.
>>738330429>What have I told you since the first day you attended my team-building seminar where you lashed blue barrels together to get across a small lake?>There are 3 ways to make a living in this business - be first, be smarter or cheat>Now we can't be first anymore. And although I like to think we have some pretty smart people at our company, it sure is a hell of a lot easier to just cheat>Sell it all. For $80. And use AI to vibe-code it. >...Is that even possible, Sam?>Yes, but at what cost?>I'll have to pay. Where is this going to come back to us?>Everywhere>Sam, I don't think you understand what's trending! If I made you...how would you do this?>Well, you call the shills in for their usual 6:30am meeting and you be honest with them. Because they're going to know it's a piece of shit anyway. So you're going to have to throw them a bone and a pretty big one. And then you've gotta come out of the gates storming - no public betas, 9.5 review on IGN. 1 million units shipped in 12 hours, 2 million within 36 because by 48, word's gonna be out and then you're gonna be getting review-bombed by all of the streamers. And then they're going to be trying to get refunds as quickly as possible>Ramesh?>They can try to refund it but it's yours now >But John, even if we manage to pull this off, and that's saying something, who are we selling to?>Same people who've been buying from us for years and anyone else >But John...if you do this, you will kill the vidya industry for years to come, it'll be over. And you're selling something that you know has no value>We are selling to willing buyers at the current fair market price so that WE...MAY...SURVIVE!>You will never sell anything to any of those people again>I understand>Do you?>Do you!? This is it! I'm telling you, this is it!
>>738334096>How many people bought STS2 day 1 even though the game will be better and cheaper when it goes on sale after leaving early access?Uhhh anon? They get to play the game in the meantime? Hello? What a stupid fucking comment lmao.
I only buy games I have a strong feeling about the franchise over at launch and full price>Warioware>Kodaka/Uchikoshi anime mystery games>indie projects I didn't back but also became very interested inThat is the extent of my loyalty.
>>738330429>1. Living in late stage capitalism >Everyone is poorer than they were. The older you are, the clearer that point is.>Mental health declines. Motivation drops.>Entertainment quality in the toilet and getting more expensive. >But hey, you can spend $80 on our broken piece of shit game loaded with predatory monetization during a time when hardware is fucking outrageous due to... see point 1.
>>738338389>Everyone is poorer than they were. What do you mean? You are personally financing between 2-5 people who don't work if you're employed. People in the past would not have been able to do that, that's a massive increase in your personal wealth. Not sure why you chose to spend all that on random foreigners, but that's what you did.
>>738334006>be me>gen z>get x almost describes meI would ask which underpaid indian sweatshop wrote this, but i don't trust in my generation to be smarter than i give it credit for...
>>738332546You faggots pride yourself over Nintendo never dropping the price of their games, so you HAVE to be in the percentile
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>>738338576Exactly this. If we just let lazy and stupid people starve we would all have plenty of money. If the church wants to take care of society's dead weight they're welcome to do so but it's not my, or any other productive person's, responsibility.
>>738330429a big chunk of those people just play f2p slop like fortnite and overwatch. some of them spend enough on those games to afford a full priced game every month
>>738338576>Compares modern times to pre-1940's instead of the 1970's-1990's where this topic is socially, economically and politically relevant. Super cool, bro. So fucking cool. >>738339167>There'd be plenty of money if we played out my misanthrope fantasy. An ever evaporating consumer base doesn't serve your midwit fantasy. Let me know how future share capital would allow that kind of money to circulate instead of flooding into the upper percentile of income earners. :^)
>>738330429Theres only a game worth playing once every few years (rdr2 in 2018, cyberpunk in 2020, starfield in 2023, etc) so everything else can be bought on sale for < $10.
>>738331183Especially when quality decreases with every year that passes.
>>738332170launch week is the only time you'll ever get to genuinely discuss games on this board.
>>738330429i am a power gamer with top end 9800x3d/5090 - it's not about price - it's about the games never being finished until 1.5 years after launch
>>738339868>starfield>worth playingOh I'm laffiin.As for CP77 was a buggy mess on release so you were better off waiting for patches.These things happening every few years is precisely what keeps ensuring young gamers keep being aware of the fact that waiting for sales is better than day one buys.
>>738337143Nigger you chumps fell for the early access meme, shut the fuck up
>>738332170It's the only legitimate way you can show that you support the brand that a company pays attention to.It's the only way you can have reasonable discussions without praying you have one or two people in the mood to talk about a game in a month.It is the only way you can play a game that's not min maxed to death. This is extremely important on Souls games where if you plan on playing online the game is basically solved past week 1 and 90% of the people you will encounter are twinks instead of people like you fumbling around with random weapons and armor sets.Occasionally content is locked to the purchase. Nowadays usually these codes just get packed into all physical copies or are sold after a month or two, but sometimes content is still perma-locked behind day one purchases.
>>738339868>(rdr2 in 2018, cyberpunk in 2020, starfield in 2023, etc)One bad, one alright and one terrible game.
>>738330429I only buy $70 games from my absolute favorite devs day 1. I'm averaging about 1 a year. Now that I bought into Nintendo's ecosystem, I might start picking up more since those never go on sale anyway, and I hope the industry doesn't start copying that once they realize selling their games for $20 makes people wait until they're $20 before they buy them.
>>738332170If it's a GaaS, you get the maximum time with the community, as I consider it the "optimal gaming time"
>>738339868>starfieldtrolling right here
>>738332170Ports of niche games that you want to support and know that will not be getting a huge print. I am obviously talking about physical releases only.
>>738338576Is this a bot post?
>>738334407And now you also have shit like Cyberpunk overhauling whole gameplay mechanics or Rogue trader adding in cutscenes and voice acting a year after release. And Starfield psyched with an incomplete lighting system.
>>738330429Correct, fuck fomo. If I REALLY want to get the game, $70 is pushing it, anything else needs to be $60 and below.>b-but the story!Don't care, I'll mute words if I have to
>>738335701>The only difference now is the ability for a provider to flip a switch and turn off your game library.Where is that happening?
>>738330429I will continue to do nothing, and continue to buy nothing
>>738340759Playstation, if you don't log in for a month.
>>738330429>Hike prices>DLC the fuck out of games>Cash shops>Season passes>Games as a service.Gee, I wonder why.
>>738330429The prices need to go higher to make up for this loss!
>>738340691>Don't care, I'll mute words if I have toI did this with Death Stranding 2 and I avoided every spoiler. Works like a charm.
>>738340903lmao this cant be real, do console cucks really??
>>738340903Denuvo might start doing something like this as well to combat hypervisor and cracks
>>738330429Why should I pay full-price for a video game when a gacha game will give me 70%~ of the quality for completely free?
>>738332170If it's a multiplayer game, people buy early to play while the player count is at its highest before it dies down and only the tryhard pros are left. Especially fighting games. For single player games, it's literally just FOMO and wanting to be part of internet conversations at launch.
>>738335424You should see what the WWE is doing now>ticket prices insanely overpriced after jews took over>all there shows are streamed across multiple platforms so you have to pay like $200 a month is you are a wrestling fan>PPVs which used to be 6+ matches are now 4 matches and half the show is commercials>ads all over the rings even the tables have slim jim logos on them now>blood deals with Saudia Arabia to host shows there which makes them crazy money>every year they hit record profits regardless>despite hitting record profits again they laid off a ton of wrestlers and demanded others take a 50% pay cutYou are going to see crazy shit next year as the economy continues to be shit and they can't layoff people anymore and have jeetmaxxed to the point of saturation and they can't rely on these crutches to raise revenue again.
in this economy?
>>738330429Is it surprising that older film enthusiasts aren't the market for modern capeshit? I used to buy 10+ new games and 20 older releases a year as a teenager, now I buy maybe 3 games a year and all of them are 4 years old off a key site for like 10 bucks because my back log is endless.I can't really tell if games actually got worse or I just got bored of every major genre due to a 20 year long stagnation in game design.
I really really liked Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order but I don't think it was worth $70. I have waited 3+ years for Star Wars Jedi: Survivor to be cheap and can keep waiting easily. I waited 5 years to play Fallout 4 because they treated that game like an apple product never making it cheap
>>738341616>For single player games, it's literally just FOMO and wanting to be part of internet conversations at launch.not being spoiled is another big one for movie games
They still play them, they just don’t buy at launch at full price because at this point everyone’s backlog is so big you can just fuck off and play games until shit goes on sale and then add that to your endless backlog and never play it either most of us aren’t gamers we’re collectors and not mint condition investing collecting but attempting to fill a void collecting
>>738334096I paid $13. It won't get cheaper or close to complete for another 2 years. I'd know, I was there when Act 3 and Defect were brand new.
I had a friend who for a period of time, maybe 1 year or less, bought every new AAA game, played them for a couple of hours and never finished any of them. Any time some new goyslop came out I saw him on steam playing it. I never understood it.
>>738332170Your appreciation for games decreases as you age. It is actually better to play games you want to experience while you are still young enough to give a shit.
well, yeah, I can get a hooker to do anal for less than what RE Requiem was worth
>>738330429>new game>full price + season pass + dlc not in the season pass to jee you more + tax + tip + arm + leg + first born son>decade old game in same genre that looks almost as good because graphics haven't progressed in 10 fucking years and probably plays better too>complete edition with all dlc for $5 during a steam salegee i wonder why people don't buy full price games anymore
I predict we are at least 5 years where things MIGHT get better but that requires another major crash and a lot of companies to go under
It's too expensive, games suck now, and new releases tend to be demanding live service slop that want you to treat it like a second job which nobody has time for, especially not gamers who likely already have a live service slop game they treat as a second job and they don't need another one.
>paying for games
>>738330429>2026 atricle>2013 game for the PS3>"hardcore player">FIFA 14xDDD
I mean, yea, I'm not paying $70 for a game unless I REALLY like the developer, and I have no reason to like any of the devs charging $70 for a game.
>>738331183wtf this chair i've been farting on for years it's worth the same i paid or it!?!?!?!?!
>>738333205It blows my mind that retards always trot out that "UHH, 10% OF CONSUMERS MAKE UP 50% OF CONSUMER SPENDING!" bullshit without realizing that that 50% figure is TOTAL FUCKING DOLLARS, meaning it includes richfags buying fucking $3 million cars and $800k watches.The retards running entertainment industries unironically thought they could survive exclusively on the top 10%, which is fucking retarded.
>>738332170If it's a fighting game or any other kind of competitive game that's not some normie shooter the online will die a month later.
>>738331086Israel pays some of the highest Steam prices. The shekel isn't particularly weak any more but Israelis still get socked.
>>738334248So what kind of games do you actually like?
As in indie dev I've basically given up on ever making a game worth more than $10 again.
>>738343390This only works for old gamesUnless things have suddenly changed recently, as far as I know the piracy hacking scene is almost completely dead. Like there's only 1 guy(some troon called empress or something) still doing it at this point.
Maybe I would if I were rich, but I want all the story content/content/whatever (that should just always come with the game) but they force you to buy some $90 or more "premium" version. So, yeah, when 90% of big name games cost $90 or more for the whole game (up to $120 or more like Forza) I think I'll wait for a sale.
>>738344142Plus whales need normies to show off their over priced skins and if normies aren't showing up neither will the whales
No surprise there, dumb little kids have no self restraint so they buy things because of hype and having to have the newest thing immediately.I don't see why you would pay full price, or worse pre-order, for something instead of waiting for the word to get out if it's worth a damn and for all inevitable bugs and bullshit it will ship with to be ironed out and reduce in price in a year for a more complete with dlc included and stable version.If you pay 70 dollars for buggy, incomplete games with dlc waiting for release to drop, you are cancer and have made the industry worse.
>>738330429gae
>>738330429>Buy the game day 1>Buggy, unoptimized, probably missing content due to "modern development" taking too long to make to release a full product.>You're playing a version/basic campaign of the game that they simply hand out for free a few months later, used as a way to incentivize brokies into spending DLC on it.>Seethe in anger as you see the game get patched, dialogue reworked, and sections that you were once stuck in, fixed.Why the fuck would I buy a full-price game??
>>738330429>hardcore gamersThat's just 5% of the demographic anyway. 95% are casual gamers that preorder games on 3x the price.
>>738344859How are you this evening Mr. NietslekehS. I must say I, as a fellow white, agree with you entirely.
>>738330429Most of those people nowadays spend their money GaaS/Gacha games instead.
Why would I be in any rush to pay for boring woke trash that insults me?
>>738345063Strange how every single console is swallowing government cock on the whole age verification non-issue, when in fact it's dumb little kids and their even dumber parents that make them the most money.
>>738345836Try harder industry shill. What mediasites define as "hardcore gamers" would barely count as casuals here
I used to happily pay $60 for a game, then so many good games started going on sale I moved my "full price" bar to $30, and over time it's dropped to $15.At this stage most of the games I like the most I got for under $10 in a bundle, so I can't see spending more than that these days.
>>738345993No seriously isn't it just that 1 troon that's still bothering trying to crack denuvo games?
>>738330429why is that the imagine they used though, some random kid holding a sports game from 12 years ago
>>738330429Yep. Everyone waits for sales. Especially on the digital store.
what the hell are hardcore gamers?are chuds hardcore gamers?are there hardcore gamers that aren't chuds?also, wouldn't hardcore gamers by definition be willing to shell out more shekels for full-priced games?
>>738330429>buying gamesHow about no.That ship sailed when limitless data internet connections became affordable.
There is not a single game in existence that is worth 70-80 buckaroos plus DLC tip. I'd be willing to pay 60 for some, assuming it's actually a good (complete) game but that's my hard limit. And for most 20-40 is where their actual value is, assuming it has any value to begin with.
>be me>buy returnal for $70 bux on release>one yea later they add a lot of content>saaros comes out>they already taught me just to wait a year and not pay full price and wait for the full game to come outmaybe if they released complete games people would care
>>738347359This, I will never pay more than 60 bucks for a game and even that seems retarded in hindsight, even though I enjoyed all my $60 game purchases
>>738334071Movies SHOULD be the same way, but the rights holders are determined to make digital movie watching a complete mess.It’s a minor miracle that video games didn’t end up the same way.
>>738330429The wage garnishment went too far, that is all
>>738338576Yes… of course… Jaun and his family are why a lb of ground beef costs more than the federal minimum wage.Clearly…
>>738349265Don't care. His entire line needs to be exterminated regardless along with his tinyhat masters.
>>738332170You get spoiled and miss out the good discussions. I buy most games at full price but I buy less than 5 a year
Hello, police? Someone is trying to coerce me into gaolslopping at level 2.
>>738330429I wouldn't buy those games for "modern audience" even if it costs a dollar.
>>738346537You'll notice kids don't play consoles now.
>>738349265The short answer is yes. Illegal immigration is illegal for a reason. You can research the issue for yourself and try to understand why nations matter or you can bleat orange man bad, don't care, bye
>>738330429I hope that theres someone somewhere that realizes that i only buy games because of steam being a private entity and i want gaben to have another yacht because of proton. If they ever go public i can almost guarantee that they'll fuck it up in some way and make it worse and never get a dime from me again.Its the exact same way with so many companies its unreal>games by far and large become the #1 revenue generating product outshining movies and tv combined. >fuck this up because line must go up forever and it cant stay stagnant because goldstein shekelberg and wi tu lo will crash your company if dividends dont pay what they want>find every way to nickle and dime customers possible instead of putting out a complete, finished product that costs a reasonable amount to make for a reasonable price>completely eradicate the AA market of video games for over a decade because everything must cost gorillions or be made in a garage and no in between>despite the fact that when most people who actually play games, usually have some AA game as their absolute favorite of all time>everything becomes completely sanitized and reskinned 10 times over>run beloved IPs into the fucking dirt and struggle to make new ones because if the game doesnt sell 20 million copies day 1 then its a failure and will sit on the shelf to rot>or do a half baked remake/master that gets completely shit on by the original in almost every metric except maybe graphical fidelity, which graphicsfags arent even human in the first place>and then claim gamers dont want [TITLE] because its blatant bullshit cashgrab did poorly>also releasing games that run like fucking shit on anything but top end hardware, completely alienating 90% of the potential consumberbase>all in a time where everybody is getting squeezed from every single angle and barely making it byemulation alone is enough that i could never buy a videogame again and never run out good shit to play.
At 11 years old, I already had more games than I'll ever be able to play in my entire life on my computer, several thousand ROMs. A complete lifetime of gaming could fill a 2TB hard drive. Old games take up NOTHING in memory. Why would I spend 80 euros plus 50 euros on DLC for an ideological game that only lasts 8 hours and is buggy?
If a game comes out by a dev or in a franchise that I care about then I'll drop the money asap. For instance I bought Requiem full price (I have shit taste yes) or any Fromsoft game. But really there's no point in buying at launch. The gigachad meme is right, the games are never feature complete at launch and usually need a year of bug fixes too.
>>738330429There is no reason to buy at full price. If it's topical and you need infos about it to hang out with the cool kids after school then just watch a let's play. If it isn't for a topic then, well you waited 7 years for it 3 more months don't make a difference.
>>738330429>Muhammad with a copy of FIFAEuropeans killed video games as a medium.
yeah I wonder why
>New RE slop drops.>70$>Wait a year and half tops >NEW SUPER GOLDEN EDITION of the RE slop game with all DLC new and old.>Bugs have been fixed>Pay 30-40$ maybe even less for physical version of the game.It's that simple, the only reason someone should buy a game on release is if it costs like 30$ on release, the only time I paid more than that for a physical game was Astro bot which costed 50$ and some limited physical editions of some indie games.
>>738330429FUCK your brackets, OP
Elden Ring or Xenoblade 3 was the last full priced game I paid for since Skyrim. Think whatever you want about these choices but consider the meaning of the time between these choices.
>>738338389>Everyone is poorer than they were.I can never take this serious when I see my coworkers order fastfood via uber almost every day and smoke cigarettes.
>>738349265Anon, they have to eat too. What do you think they fucking eat?
>keep raising day-1 release game price># of sales keeps dropping until a discount comes alongsounds like we need to raise prices to $80! which means raising the price to $130 for the Day-0 E-Streamer Edition!
>>7383304292016 was the last time i bought a video game and i play a LOT of games. Shit I only even bought that because it requires online (RUST)
>>738330429>buy $70 game>can't run it without my $3000 graphics card's fake frame options>can't run it without my now $500 sticks of ram>can't run it without giving them 200 gigabytes of space (for 4k textures i will not use)>game has microtransactions and DLC content from day one (skin packs at best)>pre-order bundles go well past $100>could be a live service title, could be a singleplayer one, either way it wants an online connection to even launch>game is mid anyways>"Why is the industry failing?"I just buy games I like.
I bought 9 games for about 80 buckos like 2 days ago, havent even installed any of them yetAnd summer sale is approaching too
>>738341616It depends on the situation. If the game is still popular and has a significant player base, you'll see that the existing players, along with bots and newcomers, will keep the game from getting too competitiveI'll just see how things go with Battlefield 6 and MarathonIn BF6, with discounts and new content, more new players are coming inMeanwhile, with Marathon and its small player base, the game gets sweaty, even with bots
>>738341616>>738344350>fighting gamesYou know there are people who mainly play locally and against bots, right?Football game players usually do the same thing
>>738346282>casualfag desperate to be called a gamer
$20 is the max I'll pay for a game. Thank God for steam.
>>738330429>buy a game at full price>"THIS GAME FAILED BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T BUY ENOUGH">buy a game at half price>"THIS GAME FAILED BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T BUY ENOUGH"I'm so happy I can have an influence on this economy...
>>738355009The british aren't european.
>>738362324Why even write something so stupid?
>>738362383The joke went over your head.
>>738362383>>Why even write something so stupid?They seceded from the EU six years ago.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Withdrawal_from_the_European_Union
>>738331183This.Based
>>738331857Not to mention many games release broken so the game will be in better condition a few months later
>>738362383The first anon said muhammad. The second anon said the british. Now think for a second.
If the whole industry packed up today and not a single new game were ever released again would it even matter? there's enough quality games out there. It's not like games are improving in quality and there's not some exciting new technology on the horizon either. Games are priced more than they're worth already, a full priced AAA is a waste of money even if you enjoy it.
>>738343683This analogy suggests that I would want your chair at any stage of its life.
>>738362626you pay for used panties why wouldn't you pay for used chairs?????
I honestly think that the average consumer is a lot less cynical than most people here seem to assume. I think most of them assume that most of the games that they buy are good and fun and have no real outstanding issue with any publisher or game series the way that nerds like us do. But even for those people, waiting until much later to buy a game means knowing exactly what you’re going to get, exactly how many season passes it’s going to receive, how well it’s going to review are going to end up picking it up, etc. Even if you’re really happy with the state of the industry, waiting is going to tell you all of these things about the product that buying it immediately will not.Back in the old days, games wouldn’t really get reviewed the week after their release, magazines would have moved on, the games were overwhelmingly single player or split screen so it didn’t matter if your friends were picking them up or not, and the games had a basically legal obligation to work out of the package or you could return them. A lot of what’s been said in this thread is true, but even if we overlook quality and monetization practices there are all of these other reasons why it just doesn’t make sense to buy most games early
>hardcover gamerAre we hardcore?
>>738330429>buy 80+$ game>install game>base game is broken on release>gotta wait for update to fix the game>months go by and still waiting on update>update finally releases almost a year later>game is now playable but also broke something else with update>gotta wait for .1 patch months later>update finally releases and is playable>game also has lots of DLC>each DLC install breaks the game because the game was clearly never tested with all the DLC's installed>dev's somehow spin this as gamer's fault as to why their games aren't selling
>>738330429No shit, and water is wet.
>>738330429I will never spend more than 20 bucks on a video game, now and forever
>>738362535I don't get it. Muhammad (Germany) and Muhammad (British) are both Europeans even if one is not in the European Union.
>>738333659>>738346282>>738364139
>>738364739His statement completely flew over your head I think. Probably because you're not that racist, good for you I guess.
Physical Collectors edition hardcore collector here. Unless game sucks LEs usually sell out and never go below msrp on average. So i always buy new, at full price with an average cost of $100 per game. If you dont buy on release or near it, expect to pay a scalper 2x msrp. Also anything from Limited Run you can only get at full price or scalped. Even if base game price drops LEs usually keep at msrp.
>>738365198Collectors editions haven't been good in like 15 years at least.
what eve is a "hardcore gamer" anymore?
>>738367262The big boxes just do it for me. Just opened this one to play.
>Buying a game when it's at its most expensive so you can play it at its lowest quality (before patches and bugfixes) and with the least amount of content it'll ever havePeople who buy full price, especially at launch, are actually stupid. In a few months you'll be able to get it 60% off with all DLC included
I'll buy cheaper indie titles at full price if I really like the developer, but I don't pay for a AAA-budget game unless it's on sale. 60 is too much. Fuck, 50 is too much. Lower your budgets and optimize, dummies.
>>738330429inb4>for this survey, we asked ubisoft, capcom, EA and no one else whatsoever
>2025+1>buying video games
>>738331183https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/super-mario-odyssey-switch/>Why would I pay more for something I know will be less later?I see someone in this thread has not been paying attention to Nintendo game prices. Pic-related a game from almost a decade ago.
>>738374634It's $20 on ebay
>>738374634>THIS DISPLEASES THE GABE
>>738330429improve the economy or else your industry suffers
>>738374774digifags btfo
>>738330429In this economy?Fuck that, Ill just emulate/flash cart with roms instead, much more better way to enjoy vidya then indulge with shit overpriced faggot pandering broken gamesFor the retards that call old games unc slop are coping their shit is irredeemable kek
>>738333093Who are you talking to?
>>738374634When you look at digital games on console then they are always full price except certain times of the year, maybe a christmas of black friday sale or sometimes golden week, then maybe they'll sell for 20% off before going back to full priceThey claim it's because of the "convenience" of not having to go out and buy itIt's not just a nintendo thing even though they've always had their head up their ass about their products and their worth
>>738374634It's free on yuzu
>>738330429The last two games I bought for full price were Silksong and Elden Ring, other new release just dont seem worth it
>>738330429>books>most you'll ever pay is like 50-90 bucks for super rare limited editions>least you'll pay is nothing because of public libraries>movies>the most you'll ever pay is 60 bucks because of limited editions with tons of extra stuff attached to it>least you'll pay is like 6 bucks>video games>standard price is 80 bucks, 120+ for special editions>least you'll pay is 30 bucks on salewonder why
>>738375606>>least you'll pay is 30 bucks on saleok consoletard I pay $0 for 90% of the games I play and the other 10% are mostly multiplayer games
>>738375773you're not making the point you think you are
>>738375845what the fuck are you talking about retard my point is that 30 dollars is not the least you have to pay for games, least you will pay is nothing if you aren't a console slave
>>738375901you don't even understand what i was talking about
>>738330429>gamehome, before everything fucked up for the 8th generation
>>738342515The opposite for me
>>738330429>Games are overpriced>Nobody buy itWho could have foretold this
>>738330429Wow it's almost like steam causing a discount death spiral would be a problem as predicted 10 years ago or something.
>>738376017I understand completely, it's you who is too retarded to understand the counterpoint
>>738376640counterpoint to what
>>738330429>look at study>it's not even 1000 people that count for this "hardcore players" >what counts as a "hardcore player" or "older enthusiasts" in the study is someone who is buying two or more games every week in the year.>on average 2 out of every 4 purchase of a game that released in the last six months is a full price purchase Wow it's fucking nothing, just clickbait to justify price hikes. >280 replies and 64 images omitted. Click here to view.You all better be bots.
>>738376681>unironic braindead drooling retard forgetting what he typed 15 minutes ago
>>738376837come on you can't even put into real words what your point is and i'm supposed to take you seriously?
https://youtu.be/V6qvX_rJtpo
I still buy new full-prices games when they are under 40bux
>>738376889I couldn't possibly make it more clear for you than I did here >>738375901 but you are actually sub-60 IQ shitskin biotrash so this is your final (You)
>>738377047and i'm saying don't understand what i was talking about you keep sperging out on lowest cost
>>738330429Sure, the last new non-indie game I bought at launch was E33.
>>738377047 >>738377083you are both autismos with no communication skills so just shut up
Good games still sell which is all that matters.
>>738330429Been a hardcore gamer for 20 years at least and I can count the times I bought a game at full price on one hand.
>>738330429They don't make games for me so I don't feel any urgency to play them or support them so they make more of that type of game for me.
The market is saturated. Only reason to buy full price games now is if you want to participate in the cultural Zeitgeist.
>games got worse>they will receive patched GOTY editions and go on a sale later on>"why don't gamers buy games at full price anymore?"Damn, I guess it's one of those mysteries of life that we're never going to solve.
I only buy one or two new games on release day a year. I have an enormous backlog and not enough time to play, so I'm perfectly content waiting and picking them up when they're cheap. I've been collecting the resident evil remakes 2-4, plus 7 and 8, and am just now getting yo playing them. Probably got all 5 games for the price of a brand new game.
Other than fromsoft, I didn't buy a full price game in like 10 years.
>buy game>it needs a day zero patch>still cant play it until they're done developing it after launch
I'm not paying $70 or $80 for a video game. I don't care how pretty or real it looks.
>>738330429>hardcoreWell, the entire reason we're hardcore is because we are genuinely having fun. Most new games aren't fun, so if we're only somewhat interested in their possible potential, the $60 or more price tag certainly makes one lose interest. Ultimately our goal is fun, and it is simply not wise to spend $80 on something you'll only enjoy for 10 hours at most then never touch again.
The last time I bought a game full price was Diablo 3. I learned my lesson well and to this day I only ever pirate/buy on -50% MINIMUM. Usually -80% unless indie. Become immune to the hype machine. Enjoy games on your own time.
>>738330429>>738376785i hate gaming """""journalism""""" so much its unreal
I only pirate games unless they're extremely good like E33
>>738378640I swear to god I will never touch E33
>>738378658Not would a woman do that to you!
>>738330429surely making the standard price of games 80 bucks will help this some more!
>>738333872This
>>738334324I came to a similar opinion after playing the demo. Culture war stuff aside it's just not a particularly compelling game for me.
>>738330429You DO make passive income every week, right?You're not some sort of retard who spends 90% of their money on rent and expenses right?
>>738330429Only game I ever bought full price in many eyars was the new avatar game, which is also the first game I ever pre-ordered because it was so cheap.Before that it was hitman absolution
>>738330898For me, it's because triple-A games look like advanced mobile games. I mostly play indie games or double-A games nowadays.
>>738333093Holy spergout
Full price for a game has almost doubled since I was a kid, wages have stagnated, and gas is $5.00 a gallon.
>>738384483You DO make passive income every week right?
>>738333842>>738344443KEK incredibly based on gaben's part
>buy 80 dollar western game>remember it's a western game therefore godawful dogshit>80 dollars lost
>>738330429because why would I pay full price for some mediocre AAAslop when I can also just pay 50% of that for an indie game which is more interesting to play?they really need to get over their obsession with realistic graphics, it just bloats their budget to retarded degrees while adding very little.
>>738332170Spoilers.
>>738330429not surprising. it's been years at least a decade since I started to only buy the 4 or 5 series I like the most at release and that's because I actually love them and want to enjoy or hate them the fast as I can. everything else I'll wait for at least 30-40% off before buying.
>>738386865>indie game>hardcore playeryou like depression cat quest 4: the search for homosexuality. congrats faggot.
>>738330429My backlog is huge and my time very limited.There aren't many new games that I would be excited enough to get at launch.
>>738330429After they made constant deals a thing, why would we not wait to save up to 90%?
>>738333592>buying>Forza Horizon 6You're not buying it, you're renting it until they decide to shut it down.
>>738331183pretty much.the only reasons for me to buy on release are if it's a PvP/coop game and I know my friends are going to buy it on release, or if I have been really looking forward to it and have nothing else in my library that would interest me just as much.
>>738386980Only underages and subhumans care about spoilers.
>>738387227nta but at the time they shut it down, I will be playing Forza Horizon 7.
>>738384515Only rich people can make passive income.
>>738332756Shareholder earnings calls are usually publicly available. You can just look them up.
>>738387528Your definition of rich is anyone with a net worth over 0. Any retail investor with $15k and a get rich slow mentality can make $100-$200 a week on just wheeling options.$500 a week if they're doing intel and dont give a fuck.
>>738388469Bold of you to assume people have $15k lying around.
>>738330429>increase price to $80>most people won't pay the $80>shocked_pikachu.jpgWhat's the complaint? I thought that publishing companies had weighed the positive and the negative, and thought that the $80 price hike was worth losing the buyers that wouldn't pay that price.Are you telling me that corporate CEOs are fucking morons?
There's not much incentive to buy a game at launch unless you want to do community discussion at the start.If you wait a year you generally get a more functional game and it costs less
>>738388570bald of you to assume they don't
>>738337720I thought we were getting fleeced at 2.63, 4.99 is insane. Where do you live?
>80 bucks on day 1>Game is a buggy unfinished piece of shit>Battlepass for an extra 10>Can't unlock any cosmetics through gameplay because they cost 20 each>DLC already confirmed for next month, it'll be atleast 30 bucks>They might finish and polish the game by year 3 and then sell it for 15 bucks with DLC included
>>738346441>He doesn't knowHave you been living under a bridge or in a coma?Empress is so 2024.Voices38 has took "her" place. We're climbing back to the golden age once again
>>738330429What even is there to buy? The last game I bought new for full price was Elden Ring, and even then I was disappointed and don't think it was worth that much.
>>738388570If you don't have $15k lying around then you have been making a lot of poor choices.
>>738330429so what is "full price?" The $280 ultra deluxe ediction preorder with a 19 inch tall statue, a giant fucking wooden box made out of balsa wood and lead paint, and a dollar store jacket with a game logo stitched on the back? Yeah, no one is buying games at full price.
>>738390912Full price is basically whatever the market price is. Today's top is tomorrows bottom. If you spend all your time chasing sales, you're going to get nothing or you're going to buy buying much higher than you wanted.
>>738330429I'm sure western tranny devs will manage just fine with woke modern audience types to keep them afloat. lmao
>>738392406Anon they get government grants to pay for their political psyop campaigns
>>738330429>Older people are less likely to fall for scamsI did nothing And won
>>738332170It is a good cool game you want to play and that studio's last game was good. Hypothetical scenario, of course
I don't buy any games heheh
No new sales on the ps store today
>>738390025And don't forget that the games aren't any better looking than those released 10 years ago, but they require GPUs costing 3000 bucks and 32 GB of RAM, and half your frames will be generated by AI while the resolution is also handled by AI.
>>738330429Still waiting for a sale on pic related
>>738374634those are the old prices
>>738332170For singleplayer games. literally none. Some people will say "You'll miss out on the disussion!" or "You'll get spoiled". But who the fuck cares. Multiplayer games are different because getting it early you get a good point of entry to get good and ahead so you don't get fucked over by sweats later when you try to enjoy it.
>>738333047Fuck it keep going. Why not $120? The faster Califaggot AAA gaming dies the better the entire industry will be. I hope they lose literally all incluence by 2030.
What's a full price game?I am buying more games than ever before and I don't even look at sales or key stores. Who cares about some 20% off on a 10$.
>>738333093It's like the voices in his head said something after reading the post and then he responded to it.
>>738364756What does movies have to do with gaming. Do they mean playing PS5 games?
I've been burned by buying games on release and they've gotten too expensive for me to be comfortable impulse buying. I read reviews and watch some gameplay on youtube. I also have a decent backlog. Supply and demand comes into play with that: I don't lack entertaining game options.
>>738334096$15 and $1 are basically the same
>>738374634It's literally 30€ sealed where I'm living. Buy physical retard.
>>738337720/thread
Money is tight and many recent games have been god awful.
>>738399917anon i'm a turbo spastic that waits for 90% offs, but even my fucking normie "let's play phasmophobia!" friends aren't buying fulll price games anymore. 20-30 dollars max is the median opinion
>>738343683Games dont undergo wear and tear like physical object do
>>738400015Always holds true.
>>738330429game devs have been releasing mostly live service games and games with heavy activist themes. I'm just waiting for good games. Hell, I'd pay $1,000 for a game if it had all the stuff I liked in it. And I'm not asking for much in return, not even asking for anything illegal.
I'm very comfortable but still would never entertain buying games at less than 50% discounts. I used to only buy Monster Hunter and mainline fromsoft games day one but capcom irreparably fucked MH so only from remains
>>738331086it's sad that they really think like this
They can bitch and moan about "ACKSHULLY GAMES SHOULD COST EVEN MORE" but at the end of the day brokies win again.
>>738330429Good, but that percentage needs to go higher.
I bought Nioh 3 at full price. I don't regret it, I had fun. It's the only game I have bought at full price since Elden Ring 4 years ago.
>>738400150last game i bough full price day 1 was factorio space age - because it never goes on sale and i already spent 400 hours in it, so it was a nobrainer. fuck buying ANYTHING day 1 thoughimagine i bough homeworld 3 day 1imagine i bought that 100k > 1k hero shooter flop day 1
I'm not paying $70 for a game with f2p monetization, horrible performance and stale formulaic gameplay. I'd rather buy two copies of an indie to play with a friend.
Say NO to $80 gamesSay NO to $70 gamesSay NO to $60 games
>>738330429What's the point in buying a full priced game when it's going to be half off a month or two later? The only time it matters is with Nintendo because they never fucking lower their prices.
>>738374634Funny you're talking about Nintendo, even they can no longer get away with their current pricing. Many Switch 2 games are discounted in physical as deep as $30. They definitively overplayed their hand.>>738375428also thisTears of the Kingdom sold 20 millions near release then had nonexistent legs after that (Switch 2 edition added <1M)People had no reason not to, when the "normal" price was $70
>>738400143Wrong! A game bought by over a million people loses its soul.
>>738400474you don't have to tell me twice anoninfact, you didn't even have to say it once
The problem isn't the asking price it's value. Most games nowadays are broken, run like shit, monetised to hell and back with dlc, more concerned with political activism than fun gameplay etc. Just terrible product all around, doesn't matter if they ask 80, 70, 60, 50 or 40 dollars for them
>>738332170If a game has a day-one or early patch censorship update, then it's either the release day version or a first print physical if it isn't a massively popular gameIf you're an autistic speedrunning gamer girl () and the guidelines written by your discord mod sister recommend or enforce a speedrunning route, and the developers fixed some bugs for once, but the console isn't hacked yet, then you need to stay on the previous game version and never update or connect to the internet ever again(and I guess if you love playing glitchy games, for some reason)
>>738330429i cant believe people dont pay 80 dollars + dlc tip for half assed games
>>738331106>>738333872>A lot of the time the games are unfinished, unbalance shit on release. By waiting a year for the sales and the first DLC, I at least get a slightly better game for less.Don't worry, they're fixing that. Now if a game is kinda fun on release there's a decent chance it will get FUCKING WORSE with time (helldivers)
>>738330429buying games day 1 has always been a fomo tax
>>738403851imagine preordering games
You'll-buy-it-anyways-fags... Your response?
>Buying games>In The Big '26Lmao
no game is worth $70 when there is so much old stuff to playit's the biggest reason they want to delete your library
>>738330429>Older players are the least likely to buy full-priced gamesBut I thought it was the young ones who weren't buying games. Who buys games???
>>738404490[UNTAPPED UNICORN MARKET] that I keep telling my project manager HAS to exist.
>>738341224>Denuvo might start doing something like thisDenuvo already does this. Try playing a Denuvo game offline mode only, and you'll eventually get an error telling you to go online.
>>738331183FOMO.
>>738404490Skeletons can be gamers too you know
>>738362286>buy game at release>sequel comes out and its different>pirate game>sequel comes out and its differenti'm happy too i stopped buying games>>738364139i'm consider myself casual was working till 3 weeks ago so was a slow year
>buy new game on console>$80 + PSN or Xbox Live to play online>buy new game on PC>it's a shit port or has awful performance (Wilds)The industry is at fault for this.
I just don't like the video games that are made anymore. I might like 1-3 games released in a year, but certainly never more than that, and oftentimes I don't like anything in a given year.I thought I just 'grew out' of playing video games, but I popped Pilotwings 64 in for the first time in my life a few weeks ago, and I loved it. It is just that the appetities of the consumer market and the direction of the devs is 100% in opposition to what I would want from a game.
>>738330429no longer? I haven't bought a full price game since cod2.and I don't buy games almost every anyway.
>>738330429Sounds made up like how do you do you know this, they haven't asked me.
