In terms of gameplay this is the best FE game debate me
>>738331138Actually it's FE7
Just finished my 2nd lunatic playthroughThe game is much easier now that I have a build and I know what I'm doing, but one of my initial impressions was confirmed. Endgame feels like you're suddenly playing a different game that is ten times harder. I know you can cheese it.If I were to rank the difficulty of each map with a numerical value>chapters 7-9: 5>chapter 10: 8>chapters 11-16: between 3 and 5>chapter 17: 6 or 7>chapters 18 through 21: 4-5>chapters 22 to 26: 7ish>chapter 27: 3>endgame: 26,000,731Of course I could just use a takumi killer and trivialize the final map but that's not fun.
Sure unc. Time to take your prostate meds
Nothing else even comes close. It's perfect. The mechanics are fun, flexible and balanced. The maps are varied and consistently challenging. And the game gets progressively harder, so you never, ever get comfortable.The existence of lunatic conquest invalidates all other FE games. There's no reason not to just play conquest lunatic again.
>>738334095>Dead>Fake protagonist that will go evil and die>Actual protagonist #1>Actual protagonist #2Shadows continues to screw over women like any proper FE should.
>>738331138No FE has tactics gameplay thats all that great, even genealogy no matter what genealogy fags will try to say to the contrary. So sure, if you say Conquest has the best gameplay then sure.
I prefer Engage more for its Engage mechanic that makes character-building a lot more customizable and fun, the multiple health bars on the bosses to make it tougher than just dogpiling the boss, and the general use of color and soundtrack as well. Having said that, Conquest is some very good shit, used to be my favorite for a while, not a bad opinion to have.
>>738333959You found 10 harder than 25 and 26? Kinda odd.
REMINDER: If you care about your favorite scrimblo being BETRAYED and NEGLECTED, it's up to (You) to give him the EXP that they need.https://files.catbox.moe/mxujh8.savhttps://files.catbox.moe/ey3swp.gba
>>738334095I will forever appreciate this game for giving us mecha Corrin.Even though I'll probably never play a minute of it.
>3dsbabbiesAwakening ruined all discussion foreverhate normalfaggots
>>738334652If I end up taking this save (later), I'm going to continue the Marcus roflstomp. Fair warning. Now is your chance to give Rebecca the blood transfusions she desperately needs.
Thracia is much better.
>>73833459725 and 26 were harder in my first playthrough, but I was prepared this time>25Having shurikenbreaker and one unit (camilla) capable of onesotting ninjas made the map quite easy.>26I had an answer for every room, camilla with swordbreaker/ninja for the hero room, tomebreaker maid for the sorcerer room, and xander with 38 defense + rally defense for the bottom roomChapter 10 I haven't found an easy solution to yet, because my team isn't really built up at that point and I have to scramble with whatever I have.
>>738331138It's also the best in terms of character design.
I got up to Ch19 in my current run and lost interest.
Uh oh, melty.
>>738334948I have quite a few runs die around C19-21.
>>738334982>marcus bad because he can die to the killer axe crit that kills literally every single other unit as well
>>738334836The trick to 10 is to early promote Silas or Effie or use a reclassed servant to carry until Camilla joins. Then Odin/Nyx with Nosferatu on the left side. Then just about anyone with decent bulk and 1-2 range can take the right side, and fill up the middle with strong units like Corrin (+scrimblo).You just have to overwhelm the volume it's throwing at you with stats. Also don't pair up unless you're fighting that turn. Keeps options flexible.
Stop liking evil zombie-women.
The protagonist is clearly Hati because she keeps showing up everywhere else on the planet to trick the plot important characters
>>738333959I feel like they could fix the map by just giving everyone unique death dialogue and "reviving" everyone after the map so you're character endings aren't fucked if half your squad dies. The story premise of the map is kino (for FE standards) so if you can create some incentive to have your characters "sacrifice" themselves so Corrin can reach Takumi than you'd have some good story / gameplay integration without changing the difficulty of the map for people who want to play it "deathless".
>>738335156>32 ATKI think Oswin tanks it at like 17/1.
>>738335572>gets doubled
>>738335156Wouldn’t kill oswin or gil
>>738335606Actually not, he's 1 AS off of getting doubled.
>>738335572That puts him at 39/19 DEF which exactly kills him. But you can do it a bit earlier with an Axereaver. So 18/1 where he has +1 HP to survive with 1, or 15/1 with the Axereaver.
Reclassing was a mistake that warped the game around bases and growths, and killed unit identity (hence why every unit needs a personal now). No game before or since has ever, or will ever match the absurdity (in a good way) of Radiant Dawn. Juggling 3 armies was absolute kino.
>>738335525The problem is that they gave you only 4 fucking rescue uses in the entire game and doing the map deathless essentially requires rescue, and on top of it they didn't even let you save your game beforehand. Now that it's easy to emulate 3DS games, I'm more likely to give CQ27 a fair try, but why would I ever bother playing such an evil, stingy map on hardware?Conquest needed like 6 more rescue charges in it. Not sure why they were so goddamn miserly about that staff.
>>738335642Gilliam would actually rape a low stat baby game like fe7
>>738336129More like get raped with his shit stats
Favorite class for Corn? I like Hero and Great Knight, even if the latter is laden with weaknesses.
>>738336047It requires rescue or 4 freeze charges
>>738335957>exactly kills himIf only he were an FE8 general, he could equip a sword and be safe.
>>738335998>Reclassing was a mistake that warped the game around bases and growthsWhat lol? It warped the game around classes, as you might expect. In ALL of the reclassing games, class access is by far the premium currency - what separates the haves from the have-nots.It's the pre-reclassing games where you see an outsized focus on bases and growths. Hell, in the king of reclassing games, Fates, personal stats hardly even matter because of the stat-stacking meta.
>>738336250Yeah, sad. Still, 15/1 with the Axereaver is reasonable by this chapter. He might even have a few more levels. He should be able to tank it.
>>738336218I made her a bow knight on my playthrough, because she could still use Yato, take on fliers, and I could autistically pretend my CaC Corrin with an eyepatch got her peeper shot out with an arrow, and seeks to master the bow to surpass the trauma.
>>738336234I'm not talking about skipping. Playing the map in full requires Rescue, or if not that, something extremely unorthodox. The maids are too oppressive without some way to fuck them and then promptly run away. Freeze won't help you with that.
Fire emblem, only for the gameboy advance
>>738336292>personal stats hardly even matter because of the stat-stacking metaExcel proved this pretty hard with his 0 STR/MAG CQ run. Poison Strike + Savage Blow is just insanity. Shuriken/dagger debuffs are the strait jacket.
Uhh do I have the right save for the Marcus solo? Thought he'd have more exp than this.
>>738336460Remember to give the boss kill to Marcus
>>738336047I've seen rescue-less strats but they require some pretty involved planning, spamming silence and using entrap/freeze to kill specific enemies at the exact correct moment.One detail that can help is that a forged hammer can oneshot the generals on the left side if you have a unit with very high strength (for example berserker camilla could get there i'm pretty sure, maybe even as wyvern if you got her axefaire?). And a good unit with shurikenbreaker and 1-2 range can kill the top maid without the need for rescue if you can get it to 42 speed to kill the ninjas on enemy phase.
>>738336481>>738336460Damn it go ahead bro
>>738336460Watch out for that killer javelin peg knight!
>>738336481He just needs another maps worth of early game enemies and the boss kill. Trust.
Not marcus will handle the left side
>>738336512Yeah, you have to rehearse a strategy involving very precise benchmarks and inventory, which is basically like LTCing. And even Silence is rare in Conquest. Just a very annoying map to play legitimately.
>>738336640"Heh. Guy? Never heard of him." - Matthew
Marcus got the mine
Celared the way
>>738336835>Eliwood in killer javelin rangeOwari da
>>738336835Don't kill Guy you fucking faggot
Hand axe broke>>738336875Whos that? Some scrimblo?
>>738331138In terms of fucking your little sister Conquest is also the best FE game, debate me
>>738336875Marcus needs that killing edge
>run is already griefed 3 chapters inthat's a new record
>>738336875Erm. This is a no scrimblo run. *Kills Guy while eating a crit because he sucks ass*
Scrimblo incoming!
Shes hot
I don't care about Guy but the Killing Edge is nice.
Oh baby im really feeling it!
OH BABY IM FEELING SOMETHIN
>>738337091>75% of her HP in one blow from Ugg's strongest brigandGentlemen, our Marcus-killer
>>738337149Scrimblofags BTFOd yet again!
>>738331138it was until the ninja cave level
>>738337210Priscilla would also get obliterated by a random brigand when she joins, but she also has the potential to be the main carry while never being in danger until she's promoted.
Ohhh *that* guy. got it
>>738337091>5.4% chance to only get HP on a levelRough. Marcus will be alright despite his bad luck.
>>738337302That map is awesome. Why do you people always complain about the good ones and not the actually shit maps like Kitsune?
>>738336392Who said anything about skipping?https://youtu.be/1hieO2_x0n0
>>738337149>>738337198I was told that Marcus levels and gets stats faster than Rebecca, wtf is going on?
Kaboom! Big old crit!>too slow to double the cavaliers Shit we need to get marcus some levels
>>738337415>marcus leveled firstSounds like they were right to me
>>738337210>Gets hit>Serra heals>Continue as normalI fail to see the problem
>>738336392I routed the map on my first try with an army I never designed for that purpose. Turns out the good builds like shurrikenbreaker master ninjas are still good.
>>738337328Something is horribly wrong if Priscilla is "carrying" anything other than Raven's illicit child.
>>738337483>Got entire maps worth of kills including a bosskill while Rebecca has barely been getting crumbs>Rebecca still levels up at the same time, with a better level to bootMarcus is a scrimblo.
Excuse me gentlemen, I must jerk off for the next hour
>>738337572Rebecca getting crumbs is much more than she deserves
>>738337584They run away to heal. Damn, there goes that plan. You just gotta kill them like normal
>>738337584NOOOO MARCUS COULD GET THAT EXP! HIS 25% SPD GROWTH IS MASSIVE, TRUST ME!
>>738337625
>>738337696Already better than Sain
>>738331138only the enlightened believe this
>>738337696>Our Lowen was still level 2 until nowDamn, he has some catching up to do.
>>738337390>posts a video with "skip" in the title
>we need to train eliwoo-
>>738337696scrimblokeks... I thought we said our growths were better...
>>738337773I would like some exp on Eliwood, but Rebecca can keep getting exp too. She wants to be good this run
Run while you can, cower in fear, scream if you must. Marcus will chase you to the ends of the earth
>>738336928can't argue with that, elise is the best little sister in the series AND you get to fuck her.
>>738337149>average prepromote level-up>>738337198>average growth unit level-up
>>738337953>still has 1/3rd his strength
>>738337460>wasting a killing edge use on a basic-ass soldier
>>73833795359% of the time Marcus will get 2-3 stats.
Close to the end. Bought some hand axes and swords
>>738337795>StrenghtAlready way better than Marcus' hp level
>>738338050Why are we using the silver lance on a stationary boss when Marcus can literally use axes
Gonna grab the rebecca lowen support and wrap it up. Marcus solo was a success
>>738337571Well Mangs run went horribly wrong then considering Priscilla has been carrying his ass the last few chapters. She basically soloed Battle Before Dawn and is outperforming the OP prepromotes like Pent and Hawkeye, doubly so now that Pent is gone because he got Louise killed for content.
>>738338047>He might also get skl or luckWow, that would make all the difference
>>738338113marcusxisters.. i don'r feel so good..
Can you feel the love tonight? Save soon
>>738338168Or STR, which is the same as his LUK growth. Or SPD which is only 5% lower. Either way this is objectively not his average level.
>>738336875>>738337108Guy can be pretty decent if you use him, since he does get HM bonuses after all. If you feed him even just a few levels, he can be outstatting Raven by the time you get him in everything important save maybe HP. His better luck makes him more reliable for taking hits if necessary. He also has good supports with Matthew and Priscilla.
>>738338232Guy is shit retard
>>738338232Luck doesn't matter with tactician stars
https://files.catbox.moe/x3tcwb.savMerlinus ch save. Good luck to the next solo runner
>>738331138It is head and shoulders above the other fe games in terms of gameplayI can only image nostalgia blind gba kids or tryhard kaga faggots disagreeing
>>738336481Ur turn
>>738338228>Most likely proc is HP, then skillHe has a 52% chance of not proccing str nor spd every level btw, so realistically, his average level is indeed getting throwaway stats.
>>738338167Every Mangs run goes horribly wrong.
>>738338214Unfathomably based.
>>738338335I don't want to play the gaiden
>>738338232Guy doesn't get to use Hand Axes on promotion so clearly Raven is better.
>>738338113>Double fireLowen and Rebecca will hit hard as fuck this run
>>738338042>>738338112>hoarding
>>738331138>>738336928>>738337913Elise best
>>738338424I'm not a hoarder but those are both just pointless waste.
alright, you guys convinced me. I'm booting up Conquest right now.
>>738338167Priscilla plus Sain (preferably Lyn moded) support is the 'hidden' meta. Both 8 move units with 1-2 range access. Priscilla has good avoid if you don't weigh her down too much, and Sain is tanky.
>>738338273>Implying the relay geniuses get any
>>738337015>
>>738338585>Priscilla x SainIt's pretty strange how she only concerns himself with his status as a Knight when she's fine with a deserter and a poorfg Sacae savage.
>>738338167His Priscilla is also super blessed, she's even or ahead of her average stats when promoted at 20 while he promoted her at 16.
>>738331138How do we fix it?
>Eceleb shitPlease jerk him off in his comment section or on his discord.
>>738338779Harder difficulty mode.
>>738331138Technically I agree with this statement but personally I don't place Conquest on top. It's just too much of a commitment to start a CQ run and there's too much mental stack while playing it. Part of FE's appeal to me has always been how easy it is to just jump in and start a run and plan who you're using as you go along without worrying about things like picking up skills or reclassing or making children or optimizing Pair Ups or working around debuffs. It's too much. And if this all sounds casual, I don't really like SRPGs where you just turn your brain off either and don't need to strategize and adapt. I like simple but challenging.
>>738338780this
Forced Spam Thread
>>738338953This isn't a PoR maniac mode thread
>>738338232>feeding him marcus's levelsBro, are you trying to neglect my growth jeigan?
>>738339050You jest, but training shitters and having them die 6 chapters later is a frequent occurrence here.
>>738338780Eat a dick
>relay is already dead
>>738339017>filters (You)
>>738338458She is
I order you to do the Merlinus chapter right now.
>>738331138thracia. but conquest is a very close second
>>738339361succubus sisters
>>738337198>save scumming rebecca of all characters
>>738334095Is this game any good?
>>738340018Ah, but what a point they proved about Marcus doing it!
>>738339689>orderThis isn't a Valkyria Chronicles thread.
>>738340032Great after like 4 of 5 hours of grinding
>>738334095This game is so cute.
>>738340018I'm sure it's just a coincidence the one scrimblo anon chose happened to get strength every level. It's whatever though she's still shit anyway.
>>738336292I think you fundamentally misunderstood what I meant by warped around bases and growths. In old FE what class a unit came as mattered. Seth in 7 cause he can just run across the map (though his stats were insane too. Marcia/Jill in 9 cause lmao flying even though both had horrible bases. Same in 10 Haar is the king cause lmao flying. Meanwhile Awakening thr mrta is just Robin + Chrom cause you just give them every class. Even worse in Engage when Kagetsu shows up and all that matters are his absurd bases cause his class literally doesn't matter. You just reclass him. How good a unit is, is now completely dependent on bases and growths, and availability to an extent, because once again, their class is literally irrelevant.
There ain't a more pretentious fanbase than this one. I'd told you to read a book but you'd be filtered instantly.
>>738340492>flexing on 4chan of all placesPlay the relay and then kill yourself
>>738340492Type of post someone makes after reading their first book since HS at 25
>>738340172This place pretends it has niche favorites like pegashits, armorshits, shitmasters, etc. The dirty truth is that the peak scrimblo is archers. Niemi, Wolt, Rebecca, Mozu, Rebecca (conquest edition), Gordin, etc. /vfeg/ Is bowfag territory
conquest has 22 maps in its branch and only like 3 of them aren't indoors or without some stupid gimmick. low manning/juggernauting is not only encouraged by game mechanics, it's outright required by map design.
Wtf is a scrimblo?
>>738340934Hector
>>738340934https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/scrimblo-bimblo
>>738340934A lovable scrunko
Reminder that the enemy AI cheats on fog maps in FE7.
>>738341062They're just being bros
If no one wants to play the gaiden ill just double dip
>>738341062Reminder that IS knows how to program non-cheating Fog AI based on Advance Wars Dual Strike so they purposefully choose to troll FE players.
>>738341103No
>>738341153Go play it then
>>738340934A bad unit that is liked/used for meme or sentimental reasons
Thracia if it was good:
>>738340032Its great but you need to level up a lot of characters and their skills in order to get a good light and shadow build going for your main. Also the first like 10 or 15 games you play with any character will be bot games since there arent many low ranked players left in shadows.
>>738341103Be patient, nigger
>>738340032ignore these retards and fuck the hell no that game is peak dogshit
>>738339161drink acid parasocial maggot
>>738340212I didn't misunderstand you, anon. I'm saying this>How good a unit is, is completely dependent on bases and growths, and availability to an extent, because once again, their class is literally irrelevantis just not true. Even with the example you gave of Robin, it's not true - Robin has terrible bases and merely average growths, but supreme class access. That's what makes her good.We see the same thing in Fates and Shadow Dragon - characters with great classes are the best units. Stats do matter but play second fiddle to class and other considerations.It's only really Engage, where the restrictions on reclassing have been cracked wide open, that you see "bases and growths" being of relatively higher importance. And I would argue in Engage it's still not bases and growths that are the most important, but availability. Kagetsu is statistically only marginally better than a reasonably invested training project.
>>738341869Peak dog chicks*
>>738341976kill yourself kurtbortion
>>738341976Play the relay kurtbrotion
>>738340212>his class literally doesn't matter>just reclass himYou're contradicting yourself. If his class didn't matter, then you'd keep him on Swordmaster because his crazy bases are good enough. That second seal is opportunity cost, by the by, that literally NO Kagetsufag ever acknowledges, while they harp on other units that want them too.
Wait, Kurt is a girl?!
>>738342348>Is a Prince a girl?Think before asking retarded questions, anon
>Star Fox Direct announced>7 fucking threads on the catalogFW bros...
>>738342440All girls can be princes, but no prince can be a girl.
>>738331138the early game is the bestpast chapter 15 you get too retardedly broken
>>738342473>it's just Star Fox 64 remakeSigh...
>>738340032It gets old after a while, like playing any other ladder-style ranking game. But there is sauce and mind games in the gameplay
>>738335418Should've given Ivy the valentines alt so Celine could've gotten the evil alt, Evil Celine was by far the best of the evil DLC gang.
Alright, we're doing this. We start off by showing off some "stellar" inventory management
>>738341975>and Shadow Dragonwhich class set is the good one? the one with dracoknight or the one with general&hero?
>>738344480bro thinks he's Lionel
>>738344480If the goal was to make me not use armors, it failed horribly. With basically the entire army not being trained, Oswin is the only one I can trust to tank the oncoming enemies with basically everyone being at base and all.
>>738344926>not doing the bottom side choke stratarmorfags are retarded what'a new
>>738344926but /v/ told me oswin is as bad as gilliam so he probably gets doubled by everything and takes significant damage from physical attacks while dealing mediocre damage with low accuracy
>>738344926Now a path to the village is open. Good job, Oswin.
>>738342313Most units in Engage only want a Master OR Second Seal. The units that want both tend to get shat on.
>>738344926Bro? Your rebecca? Your level 4 hector?
Star Fox stole our Direct FEbros...
>>738345428Marcus gets a level that's slightly better than before. It sure was worth having a gimped army for this
>>738345837>Our army is le gimped cuz Dorcas didn't get a +HP +STR level up
>>738345837Shit, I'm used to him not being that shit and guesstimated his stats.
>>738345837>+HP +StrGreat level, thank goodness we trained him over Lowen who can only gain +Str
>scrimblokeks will now kill the whole army out of spitekeeeeeeekis there a group more fragile than them?
>>738345935While Marcus gets the village, the rest of the squad hunkers down behind Bosswin, since he's the only unit who was allowed to get stats
>>738346157Even if you were trying to train everyone they'd still be more or less base level at this point. You just got Lowen killed because you positioned him poorly - don't try blaming a "missing" point of luck and hp lol.
>>738346157Guy fight some brigands and reaches the mythical 14 spd
>>738345935>use a unit that isnt marcus>instantly failkek
>>738346393Bullshit. Check the B/W/L on marcus. Hes probably over 40 at this point
>>738346415I had a moment of retardation.
Good job scrimblotards
>>738346579Dishonest play all around. I bet you were the Franzfag this morning.
>scrimblofags when they're not allowed their rebecca goon sesh for 5 secondsStill the most fragile group of fags in these threads btw
>>738346638Nah, I legit got retarded here. I'm fully taking responsibility for putting Eliwood in a position where I thought he was out of range of the mage, pure unfiltered stupidity on my end.
>>738346712Unfortunately there isn't a stat level up that will prevent you from slam dunking a game over condition into the meat grinder.
>>738346579I literally dont even know what you did this chapter. You didnt show any of it
still yet to see a jagenfag crash a run on purpose like these idiots do all the time
>>738331138>better FE gameplay>not Engageand opinion discarded
>>738344334Maybe if you are from stupidlandia
>>738346579>use (not marcus) literally once>explodes
>>738336928>with the timeline info we have, Elise is somewhere between 10-14 years old>can marry, fuck, and impregnate her all within the actual events of the game, not some undefined point in the future like in awakening>all in a mainline nintendo releaseWhat the FUCK did they mean by this?
>>738346964>Protect Merlinus with Oswin in a way where Marcus will be able to have a path to the village>Send Marcus to the village>Offer a bit of support to Oswin, overestimating Lowen who's usually got more levels>Go full retard with Eliwood for some reason
>>738346579HARDEST GBAEMBLEM
>>738346967Of course, us Jeiganfags care about playing the game well and like to use good units.
>>738346975you are irrelevant engayge fag
Well I was WAITING to play false friends but fuck it I guess
>>738331138No FE game with reclassing can be considered good sorry
>>738347480I was waiting to play that one too.
>>738346579kekFE7 is impossible. Just give up
>>738347480I don't know the meta strat or whatever so just gonna wing it
>>738347649>green menu
>>738347480I apologize again, it's a blunder that I did not think myself capable of.
>>738346579this has to be firfag sabotaging relays for attention again
>>738347649Just btw I fucked up and restarted
How is this scrimblofags fault again? A skipped chapter and 2 marcus solo chapters in a row into instant loss is scrimblofags fault?
>>738331138Engaygie is better. Late game conquest is just a bit too bullshit for my liking
>>738348120Only a scrimblofag would be using Eliwood, nice try.
Ok this seems like the better way to handle it
>>738348067>FE7 is so hard that we can't get past THE FIRST CHAPTER nowLet's play something easier, like FE12 lunatic reverse or something.
>>738348221>Only a scrimblofag would be using [Lord], nice try.ahuh
>>738331138
>>738347649Its super simple. Let the thief open the top door. Steal red gem. Bait an archer into the doorway with hector two tiles above it. Move hector down 1 tile to block the entire squad. Steal war with matthew until he gets speed DO NOT KILL ANYONE WITH HECTOR UNTIL THIS STEP. Open the left door and run hector to the pillar after you kill both the soldiers.>>738348067kek
>>738348304This is an ironman. There's no reason to deploy another game over condition other than when he's forced. He should be benched ASAP, so giving him any experience is a waste. You know this.
>>738348270First Hector level>>738348324It's fine I got it
>>738348368>other than when he's forcedHe is forced in the Merlinus Gaiden
>>738348406Nice
>>738348368>deploy>on merlinus chYou should really try playing these games before talking about them, retard
Does Amelia count as a scrimblo?
>>738348465>ignoring the second part of the post will surely give me the win I'm looking for
>>738348552No
>>738348489Hector hand axed the thief to death and I got both lockpicks w/ the red gem. Unfortunately he is out of vulns and at 2 hp, so I am going to have to steal the armor's vulnerary despite it being dropped anyways.
>>738348552No, she's in her own special tier below scrimblo
>>738333959I beat lunatic endgame legit on my first playthrough, having to spend 2 hours and ultimately losing 2 units in the process. Back then I enjoyed it, pulse was racing when I finally got to the home stretch, but now I honestly dread every time I reach the map in my replays. I bet it would probably be so much better to replay on emulator because the 2 part structure is a horrendous design choice.
>>738342473Why are some people saying its out in Summer?
>>738348593>He should be benched ASAP, so giving him any experience is a wasteHe didn't get experiencr though, Eliwood didn't get one level in all the chapters
>doesnt show off the strat at all and just shows levelsheh, yeah im giving this an asterisk
>>738348639You guys restarted the ironman?
>>738348120a +skl +str level on lowen was not saving anon's shit playyou lost
>>738348639Alright faggots try not to throw this timehttps://files.catbox.moe/86uy67.sav>>738348917I literally just had Hector kill everything and chug vulneraries while Matthew was in a steal loop. Not much to say.
>>738348368>dont level the game over condition>we game overFuck, if only we gave more levels to marcus...
>>738349003>Level 5Clearly this chapter should be skipped
>>738349017Try not fighting with the shitty game over condition next time, bud.
>>738349090You cannot reason with the ltc anons. It will bear no fruit. All we can do is save the run with our combined gooning
>make an observation about Claude’s fondness for laxative pranks, something specifically mentioned in-game>banned from /vg/ for 3 days againComfy FE threads on /v/ are unironically the place on the entire site where you can have legitimate discussions about the series.
>>738349610Haha, get fucked.
>>738349003>Good HectorLet's do this
>relays need momentum guise, we cant train!*game overs twice in one evening*Fe7 is the gift that keeps on giving
>>738349673Fuck off back to your schizo general, gacha fag
>>738349805A strat I like doing when Hector isn't shit is purposefully putting Matthew in range of this guy. Basically a bunch of free exp for our thief who rarely gets such a luxury.
>>738349982Gooning kills momentum more than a game over, unironically
>>738349984Why would I go to that shithole? I don't even consider FEH a Fire Emblem game.
>>738350040Idk man i gooned rebecca and things were fine.
I gooned *to* Rebecca.
>>738346579I was fully expecting to watch this anon play like a little bitch and cower in the corner, but this is even funnier.
>>738350036Bottom formation is also doing well desu
>>738350369I still dont know what even happened. It was like killer javelin all over again. Idk how anons take 10 minutes per turn and still refuse to post good context
>>738350040We got to that point in the time it takes scrimblofags to do one goon sesh. Less, I think.
>>738350484Oh, nice one Bartre. I didn't expect him to hit that.
ScrimbloTURDS:>need every unit babied 5 levels per chapter or they will whine all day about how they can't win, or worse, throw a tantrum and kill the run out of spiteJagenDEITIES:>will use any party comp without hesistation, can beat chapters even with base level units, always plays in the best interest of the run
>>738350591Hector broke his Hand Axe already, but he's doing great otherwise
>>738350690>will use any party comp without hesitationYou say this, but when I ask people to roll for units and then throw them into bosses as a tax, everyone gets all pissy and whiny.
>>738350697>broke his hand axehmm I wonder why that happened
>>738350697I'm surrounded, all according to plan.
>>738350697>Broken Hand AxeVETO!
>>738350808Gilliam? Dies in that position
>>738350784It's fine bro, they sell them on the next map. It's not really a good idea to feed Hector too fast anyway.
>>7383507847 enemies that take 2-3 hits each, I'd assume
>>738351086If only anon hadn't wasted all of it somehow, I can't imagine how that would happen so early...
>>738350808Bartre healed here, so he can take both fighters. In fact, he oneshots them since Lowen softened them up by holding the fort first.>>738350784Do we need that?
>>738351156It's a fucking hand axe, retard
>>738350851The gilliam slander was the funniest thing on /v/ i've seen in months
>>738349610>Claude’s fondness for laxative pranksWhat kind of sick, evil man gets off on the suffering of others?
>>738351189A well deserved level for his hard work by killing one of the brigands. Eliwood got the smarter brigand who survived Bartre by using the forest.
>>738351442Now Matthew won't randomly miss or face low% crits from anything with skill. Rude pegaslut deserved it for targeting Serra despite being in heal mode.
>>738351369The dog_ who saved Fire Emblem!
>>738351573Handaxe "problem" solved. Don't worry about the Iron Axe, I'll buy Dorcas another one when I'll shop.
>>738351745Now all that's left is killing him. Either Lowen or Oswin can do the job, hell I could also safely give the kill to Eliwood.
>>738331138I will not, for you are correct
>>738352161After some consideration, I gave Eliwood the boss kill so that he won't kill this run. Not a bad level, but not a good one.
>>738351340slander would imply falsehood
>>738352340And so, this chapter ends well. Good luck to the next anonhttps://files.catbox.moe/39l5jk.sav
>>738331138Its actually one of the best games ive ever played if you dont consider the immersion or story factor. It got even better using the fanslation because the localization, while having great gameplay, changed too much of the characters. This game, civ 5, l4d2, and smash ultimate all probably have over 500 hours of playtime each for me.
>>738352428I made a lot of fast and loose comparisons but me and some other anons salvaged it in the end with JP's +2 levels so it all worked out.
>>738352168Kek, saved
>>738350782I remember when the only person having a meltdown over that was an aformentioned jagenfag, meanwhile everyone else was happy to see Tate getting exp after paying her tax like the honest pegaslut she is.
>>738353307Yeah a jagenfag was pissed that Wendy died. For sure, dude.
>>738353560I'll admit it. I was mad it didn't happen sooner.
>>738353560You can check the archive, a jagenfag was having a meltdown over Tate paying a tax while everyone else was finding it both entertaining and fun.
>>738353719Probably just you samefagging.
>>738353719>Someone was mad at me so they are part of my made up enemy group
>>738353775Cope
>>738353719No there was a Poal that was pretty conclusive showing basically everyone disagreed with it
>>738353834God, schizos are fucking weird.
So, anyone up for the third of the current relay? We're making up progress fast
>>738354054I already played this chapter
>>738353307>>738353560>>738353719>a jagenfagThat was me. And yeah, I'm a "Jagenfag" and did in fact use the best units on a per chapter basis and didn't grind. I think killing units on purpose is gay and dumb, don't see what that has to do with using the good units.
>>738354102Based.
>>738354102Kek, thanks for confirming it.
>>738354089Do it again, for her
>FEH made a loli beckyhuh
In light of recent events, how are we feeling about Fortunes Weave?
>>738354613Delayed
>>738354613It will probably be good but I worry it will follow 3H's gameplay
I know you guys love your ironman runs, your 0% growths LTCs and what have you, but would you ever consider playing a challenge run of your preferred FE where you have limited control over which units you get to use, like say a deployment roulette, or an elimination rule.
>>738354808/feg/ already has that and its called roll my units
>>738354808It's just not that interesting in practice>Roulette says I can't use Dieck and have to use Ogier>I spend 20 turns feeding kills to Ogier>I now have Dieck
>>738331138I never get hype around Conquest gameplay. Gimmicky maps, terribly imbalanced roster, poor unit distribution. Game isn't good for any sort of efficiency gameplay.
>>738354865>>738354886For the sake of clarity with the roulette thing, I meant per map. So who you use changes every map, and you might get stuck with shitters.
>>738354921>terribly imbalanced rosterTell me which game you think has a well-balanced roster, please.
>>738354808There was an anon who suggested an intresting run where you permaneny bench units on the first deployment slots when you'd get new units
>>738354808I've thought about doing drafts but it's a lot of work.
>>738354886That's known as good unit identity, which reclassing supposedly kills.
>>738354921>terribly imbalanced roster, poor unit distribution. Game isn't good for any sort of efficiency gameplay.Are we just saying opposite things? Let me try: up is down, fat is thin, 0 is infinity.
>>738355069>0 is infinity.But it is
Killing units on purpose is lame, doubly so in an group relay. It just makes you look like an annoying bitch.
>>738354973Revelation
>>738355137play the relay
>>738355137These fags wait for one assenting opinion before they break the number-one rule of relays. It's like waiting on a crackhead to say it's okay if you commit arson on a public building, and then claiming you received the go-ahead through community consensus.
>>738354973Not that anon, but thinking about it carefully for a moment as someone who's played all the games, I think the most legitimate answers are Gaiden/Echoes or Awakening. I'm not explaining the former, but Awakening is just a stat sludge game where you support-boosted pair up your way to levels and stats and success where the growth rates are through the roof, so pretty much everyone is good if you use them.
>>738355295>you received the go-ahead through community consensusThat works btw, if you have community consensus you can even veto (aka restart a chapter).
>>738354613>In light of recent eventsWhat the hell does Star Fox have to do with Fortune's Weave?
>>738355329>Awakening>Where you get Chrobin and are expected to field fucking *Stahl*
>>738354973Most games are unironically fine. You get your roster in Fates like half way through a route and that's it. Royals are cracked and you don't get replacement units. I'm not expecting every unit to be equally viable, I'm expecting that the game gives me enough tools that I'm incentivized to vary my runs. Conquest largely devolves to reducing your team to few proven safe strategies that accommodate the game's linear map design.
>>738355329Man, why do you niggas talk about games you don't play? Awakening units are flamingly awful on any difficulty that matters. Some of the weakest, shittiest units in the series. It's actually insane how hard characters and archetypes that were strong in past games are uniquely punished in Awakening. Awakening has maybe the shittiest Christmas cavs and Ogma ever.
>>738355431>I'm expecting that the game gives me enough tools that I'm incentivized to vary my runsRight, because Conquest is notorious for not offering ways to vary your playthroughs. No, we need a game with good unit balance like The Binding Blade for that.
>>738355431>I'm expecting that the game gives me enough tools that I'm incentivized to vary my runsThere is just no way you've played this game more than 2 times, tops. What you're saying is literally the opposite of observable reality.Royals aren't even unique, apart from being the usual "high bases prepromotes." Anyone can reach Xander/Camilla levels with investment.
Anyone in Awakening can act as a lead if they have access to some form of self healing via Sol/Aether/Nosferatu. Everyone else can either generate utility via being a pair up slut, has rally utility or is a dedicated staffer (Lissa, Maribelle, Anna, Libra).
>>738331138Bait
>>738355558Next you'll say that the only way to play Lunatic is to exclusively use Chrom/Robin and have a degenerate goon session in the corner as a Dark Mage.
>>738355785Xander has a unique prf but yeah Camilla is literally just a unit with good stats.
PLAY the relay
>>738355785I mean here's a guy soloing the game with fucking Gunter. Like nigger, what are you babbling about?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FvBEOjEaso
>>738355895
>>738355892It's not any better than a forged Fire tome, or hell, Horse Spirit. Arguably worse.
>>738354973Not those shitty DS demakes of Archanea for sure.
>>738355962Retard
>>738355883It's the most logical, certainly. Anyway, it's pretty clear that a unit like Stahl who can get 1-rounded on his recruitment chapter uniquely sucks ass in terms of his archetype. Awakening is not a good example of a balanced cast at all.
>>738355996*AVGN Voice*WHAT WERE THEY THINKING?
>>738356105No, you're the retard. It's an 11 mt physical sword with 80 hit. There's literally nothing notable about it statistically. It gives a nice stat bonus but a lot of Fates weapons do and if it didn't shoot epic purple lasers or belong to a powerful unit, you wouldn't soiface at it for a decade on. Same goes for Raijinto btw.
>>738355892>Camilla is literally just a unit they give you for free as early as chapter 10 with good stats, good growths, good enough weapon ranks, a good personal skill, good class and class skills, good movement, access to even more good skills with her parallel class, plus is a flying unit and is one of the best units in the entirety of fates fixed
>>738356336>camilla has visible pantiesFtfy
>>738356336And yet you can still solo the game with Odin directly after the chapter she joins. His point stands.
>>738356285You're delusional if you think that Siegfried/Raijinto are worse than a forged fire tome.
>>738356336>a good personal skillGood for other units, worthless for her lol. Camilla is obviously amazing, but it doesn't take a master's degree to figure out you can get lots of units to her level of power by like the midgame.
>>738356201>Wow, we gave them horrible bases for promoted units, we should boost their growths>Let's just double them including def, what could go wrong?
>>738331138Engage is the best purely on gameplay. It's not even close. Conquest has some maps where they actually do a fun gimmick bug the missions are still mostly a mess design wise.
>Muh soloNot a challenge, especially when you just reset to cheat yourself out of bad positions.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyHhA8l_S5g
>>738356427A +3 fire tome has 9 mt / 90 hit, targets the weaker defensive stat, is better at building guard meter consistently, costs a pittance, and anyone can use it.Again, you soiface at one and not the other because of optics. But the facts are in - Fire fucks.
Frick it, ill just play this same chapter again. Any advice and recommendations on which NEGLECTED units I should prioritize this time? Taking 2 suggestions
>>738355409Muh Chrobin is just the easiest, laziest example of what I'm talking about. You can do that with basically everyone if you focus on them hard enough, because huge pair-up boosts outweigh the minor stat gains until they really stack up. With Chrobin, it works really well because Chrom boosts speed, enabling you to take advantage of custom Robin to max out for damage, while Robin provides a bit of everything on GM, helping Chrom hit thresholds to get to Aether fast. The game is snowball emblem, and there's a lotta fuckin snow to build with in it, you just don't want to play in the snow with anyone but Chrobin.
>>738356201You are cheating because you need to hack the game to see those growths
>>738356660Lowen
>>738356660the NEGLECTED marcus
>>738356550>costs a pittance>4 fire tomes for +2>4 more for another one>8 gems>11 gems to hit +3
>>738356550It also forces you to be in magic classes which all have bad bulk
>>738356660Vouching for Bartre, he sucks but is fun as hell
>>738356447>Good for other units, worthless for her lolwhy would you lie like that? attack stance is useful throughout the entire game.
>>738354102I agree, killing units on purpose is gay and dumb. I don't care if you're bad at FE and I don't mind accommodating your dumb training projects, even though I'm a "jagenfag" in my own playthroughs. All I ask is that you make a sincere effort.
Do uncs really be playing their 3DS in 2026?
>>738356724Or you could just use them and start to notice a pattern that they're absolutely cracked and sometimes get +2 in HP on level up.
>>738356774>Oni Chieftain, Malig Knight, Dark Knight, and Basara have "bad" bulkDid I walk into a retard convention with this thread? So many shit takes tonight it's kinda unreal.>>738356772Now we get to the forge concern trolling segment of the night. Wanna mention hacked gems next?
>>738356660Nobody FUCKING cares>>738356691Nobody FUCKING caresYou people are so FUCKING autistic
Who did this?>>738356747>>738356769Gotcha cav bros.>>738356778I'll try to get him at least a level
>>738356772Probably hacks the gems and rigs the arena
>>738356774Fates has like 3 different magic classes with really high bulk>>738356813I'm saying her personal skill doesn't improve her own performance: only that of characters next to her. If they wanted you to kill everything with her, they should have given her something like what Xander got.
>>738356892I did my last playthrough on hardware because might as well. Was easy to play in bed.
>>738355793You're absolutely correct, but you don't even need those specific tools in every cases. My Lunatic Donnel got along fine without Sol (didn't get it until last few chapters). If you have someone with capped SPD/LCK, you can avoidmaxx with Lucky Seven, and, if they're good at killing too, give them lifetaker to patch up if a hit gets through.
>>738356939on cue, you fucking turd
>>738356897Two of those can’t be used and the other two were designed for royals so IDK what point you think you’re making
>>738356550>7 additional copies of the fire tome on top of what Nyx brings for free>Gem investment because you need to make multiple copies of Fire +1/2 to get just one copy of Fire +3Next you'll tell me that you see no problem with cheating in ores.
>>738331138it could reach out of my 3ds screen and jerk me off there is just a point where a dogshit story makes the gameplay a chore
>>738357001>designed for royalsWhat the fuck is this even supposed to mean?
>>738357001>these classes are the exclusive property royals and HoshidoYou have to be trolling me. That's it. Every reply just gets stupider somehow.
Riskbros, I think we make lowen EARN his level ups. Whos with me?
>>738356908Nobody cares about your tantrum either bro
>>738357074They are Camilla’s and Leo’s classes you halfwit monkey
>>738352168>everyone calls etie scrimblo for getting 5 level of investment and master seal and second seal
>>738354808no, that doesn't sound funI'd be fine with using a small number of predefined units but it should be something where any player attempting the challenge has the same rules. Like only using the female characters, only using characters with blue hair, etc
>>738357085Rebecca is GUSHING rn
Marriage with Marianne!
>>738356939>>738356897I feel like its very common to see ironmans hack in the resources. Its some kind of unspoken Fates ironman ruleset?
>>738356940oh sure, her personal skill doesn't help *her* out; it helps out other units, but that's still beneficial to the player, and increases her value
>>738357154Just cucks cheating and coping
>>738357154There is a FAGGOT in these threads who's made it his mission to crash any Fates runs where forging occurs. Every time you mention how trivial it is to do big juicy forges in Fates, he manipulates the narrative to make it appear that forging is illogical and dysfunctional, in order to undermine Conquest relays, hacked or not.
The merchant will tell you he is running for his life, but he will never tell you WHY he is running for his life
>>738357110You can easily make anyone into a dark knight or malig knight. You have multiple characters that promote into them by default. Is paladin "designed" to be Xander's class? Because paladin is not good in Fates.
>>738356897>Just ignore the ore cost of forging, just focus solely on the money partEven the fucking hacked ore efficiency fags dont bother with anything past +2.Furthermore, with the way that people suck off daggers so much in Fates, its laughable that you're going to pretend that a pair of high might unrestricted 1-2 range weapons with high mt, bonus avoid/dodge and sizable stat bonuses arent among the best of the best in the game.
>>738356396I have some doubts about this (mainly ninja rape cave) but I kinda wanna try it out now
>>738356778Eat your heart out
>>738357309calamity gate ironically makes that one of the easier ones.
>>738357289I didn't say they weren't good weapons. I said they're not unique. They're not unique precisely because you can forge tomes and knives to match them.>Even the fucking hacked ore efficiency fags dont bother with anything past +2.Ravings of the demented and the delusional.
>>738356997Called it, stop cheating the game
>>738357342>Spd>DefenseHell yeah, that's the good shit. Thanks, anon
Fire Emblem hasn't been good since the 3ds. Not one good game on the switch.
It takes skill to reset in the arena, you wouldn't understand. Also, this is different from arena abuse because I said so.
Lowen needs to kill stuff on the right. Whos getting these bandit kills?
>>7383570077 Fires cost 3500G, you nigger. You'll buy a piece of shit like a brave axe for the last 2 maps but you won't spend half that at midgame for forge that you get to keep all game and absolutely decimates everything.
>>738357467It hasn't been good since fates echoes sucked
>>7383572401. The ore you have access at the start of the run is random2. The chances of you picking up a specific item off the ground or via Keaton's personal is not high3. If you dont get the right one (and dont cheat), then you need to wait to get 5 copies of some other ore and trade it to start your nest egg. Remember ore generation is also time gated based on your system clock, so unless you plan on cheating the system, it is a legitimate concern.4. Lets talk about the arena, remember you dont always have access to the L2/L3 arena. So we're looking at 2/4/6 maps for 11 gems for example and that's only for just 1 weapon type.5. Yes, there's forging discounts but once again, rng based on who gets placed there in the shop.
>>738357496Eliwood
Forgive me bartre...
>>738357682His spd/def proc will save him
>>738357674
>smelliwood
>>738357743Can we please keep this shitter away from the enemies?
>>738357579Actually I agree... I forgot about echoes entirely lmao
>>738357467go worship your homo ike, faggot.
I missed the level but she dueled this archer>>738357682and got hp str speed and i think res
>>738357743>SpdNice
>>738357665You don't have to explain forge mechanics to me. I know how they work because I liberally forge in Fates (without hacking).The reality you don't want to accept is that not too many things are worth forging in Fates. Really just tomes, knives, and maybe axes.If you know what you're doing, you're using tome classes in Fates. That means you're forging tomes - top priority stuff, like forging and engraving tomes and killer weapons in Engage.So regardless of your RNg, you build the arena asap and start doubling your "nest egg" immediately. By midgame you can do a couple a big tome forge if you have done this correctly. There is zero reason not to do this other than pedantry.
>>738357358>I said they're not unique.list all of the other 1-2 range swords in the game that can double and crit then. surely there's tons of them if siegfried is no big deal.
>>738357867Out of curiousity, do you reset the arena?
>>738357138Juice for her next stew.
Alright marcus these shitters are clearly struggling. Get in there>hector dies if he gets hit by all on screen enemies and the two castle cavs
>>738357358Raijinto is functionally a 15 Mt weapon with +10 Avoid and +1 Speed on the side, how much do you plan on investing to make a weapon that can "match" what that thing offers for no investment?Similarly, Siegfried is still an unrestricted 1-2 range weapon with +4 Def and +10 Dodge. You might be able to reach the Mt value with enough forging, but the bronzes will never have the defense bonus.
>>738357927Yes, in personal runs. I don't care if you're going to be a faggot about that. Fates forging is a horribly designed and now literally deprecated mechanic that is forever incomplete and dysfunctional now that online services are unavailable. Even back in the day, I rigged rather than visit other castles, in anticipation of the servers going offline. So this is what I've always done and will always do.You cannot tell me that neither hacking nor rigging are available to me and expect to abide by your lunacy. Fates is an incomplete game without forge mechanics.
>>738358007>oswin crit the bandit and hector killed the cavAlright things are clearing up
This hector feels kind of weak
>>738358041>Yes, but cheating is okay because [cope]Kek
>>738357891Critting is usually bad because it means less guard gauge. I do like that it's able to proc skills like sol or astra, however. But to answer your question, lots of tomes and daggers can double and crit at 1-2 range.
>>738358205Why am I even arguing with you? You don't play Fates.
>>738354808I posted a gimmick idea in /8feg/, where you have a "hard capped" unit roster and have to keep cycling through units as soon as you get a new one. Haven't actually played like that yet though.
Greater victory achieved. This map has been going on for hours now so im going to stop posting until i'm at the boss. Only this archer bandit and pegasus knight left to slaughter
>>738357867If you are willing to spend multiple chapters worth of resources to dump all of it into one super forge then that is your perogative. However, to handwave it all away like the way you're going about it is laughable.Weapons like Horse Spirit/Siegfried/Raijinto dont need players to stockpile several chapters worth of resources to be "good". They just are.
>>738358304>This map has been going on for hours nowThere are like 20 enemies bro
>>738358163That luck is kinda important though.
>>738358309You're delusional if you think Horse Spirit (and the big bro swords) wouldn't be +3'd were it possible. HS in particular suffers from low might, but there's only enough to +1 it. There is not a single rational reason to not forge as big as possible, and +3 is about the limit. You can't come up with a single explanation other than your personal feelings for not doing it.
>cheating ore is ok because you were supposed to be able to get it from online anyway>using the logbook is cheating because even though I'm pretending that scrimbloing is totally easy I don't actually want people to be able to do it
>>738358271>More copeKek, try not cheating. The game is well balanced when you work with what you have instead of cheating for hyper weapons.
>>738358446Bro is just typing shit
>>738358217>tomes and daggerscan paladin equip tomes or daggers?
Overview of supports. Any objections, say them now
>>738358573Is paladin supposed to be really good or something? I don't see your point. Normally people don't even keep Xander in paladin.
>>738358446>it's the logbookfag having his hissy fit againNobody cares if you want to get access to level 15 skills that you shouldn't possibly have at Chapter 7. Go right on ahead. Forging is still not "cheating," because it's a mechanic made available to you in the game. Why is this hard for your idiot brain to understand?
I want to figure out how to forge efficiently.You can harvest minerals every four chapters and upgrade after chapters 12 and 18, so you can gather after:chapter 6 (1)chapter 10 (1)chapter 12 (2)chapter 16 (2)chapter 18 (3)chapter 22 (3)chapter 26 (3)(plus more if you allow paralogues)For a total of 15 minerals in a random category, probably something useless like swordsThe arena unlocks after chapter 9 so you could potentially do your first forge after chapter 12. Losing the arena fight with your first traded material would be a huge setback.I'll need to figure out which weapon type I should prioritize first, when to go for my second weapon type, etc
>leak was right about starfoxFortunes weave by September bros.
>>738358693>it's a mechanic made available to you in the game.just like the logbook then
>>738357853ike isn't homo. that's just fujo headcanon.
>>738358416I dont know why you keep invoking the personal feelings argument at every possible opportunity. Projection sure is a hell of a thing.And no, I'd argue that people still wouldnt forge to the levels that you are going about, because each successive level of forging has larger amounts of diminishing returns.For exampleSiegfried has 11/80/5Siegfried +1 has 13/80/5 (2 swords)Siegfried +2 has 15/82/5 (4 swords)Siegfried +3 has 17/84/6 (8 swords)It is simply more bang for your buck to have two Siegfried 2s roaming about thae one Siegfried 3.
This hector sucks. Save for merlinuschhttps://files.catbox.moe/8zfsqn.sav
>>738358763Nobody cares about the logbook. You brought it up one day timidly inquiring whether it makes you a faggot if you use it to skip over, and everybody agreed that it does. That was the entire discussion. No one likes it except you, so go ahead and do it if you like.
>>738358751Post link to that leak
>>738358910don't lie and pretend like you wouldn't veto if someone used the logbook in a relay
>>738358890Horse Spirit and Fire have low mt, and Fire is cheap. If you could get lots of copies of HS for cheap, yes, you would +3 it because it's such a good tome. It doesn't help weapons with high might like Sieg as much.But Fire is also a really good tome that is easy to forge. That's why a +3 makes sense for it. It's harder to justify a Fimbulvetr +3 or whatever but nobody even uses Fimbulshitter.
>>738358989Relays run on group consensus, so yeah, obviously. Nobody likes it.
>>738359074by your own statement it's not any less legitimate than forging>it's a mechanic made available to you in the game.
>>738359143Do you actually think semantics games like this convince anybody or make any sort of point?
>>738359143That wasn't me. This is me. Again, Captain Idiot, go ahead and buy LaD and Vantage on Elise for Chapter 7 if you think that makes for a more compelling gaming experience, but nobody wants to do it in a relay. We don't hack in gems for the same reason, it triggers fatties like you. In a personal run anything goes.
>>738359143I'm NTA you were arguing with about forging. I usually hack gems in personal playthroughs because it's more fun for me. I feel like I shouldn't need to explain why buying tomefaire on ch 8 feels dirty and retarded.
Project ember is kinda ass.
>>738359242It's just FE6 for people who don't like FE6. View it under those lenses and it's fine.
>>738357240Dude the conquest run died of disinterest, not trolling. You need to let rebeccafag go, its been years
>>738359241This whole conversation is just one dude sourgrapesing because nobody wants to play Conquest like a lame fag.
>>738359019>nobody even uses FimbulshitterIf you don't cheat for overtuned weapons, it's a perfectly good option
>>738357467uh... forgetting someone?
>>738359317No it's genuinely terrible lol. Not a single good reason to ever use it.
>>738359343Nope.
Fire: 500Fire +1: 1000 and 1 GemFire +2: 2000 and 4 GemsFire +3: 4000 and 11 GemsYou are spending 2000G and 7 Gems for a gain of +2 Mt and +3 Hit.
>>738333959I haven't done Conquest yet, but the 2nd to last chapter of Birthright in Lunatic was the only one where I had to take everyone except Corrin and Ryoma out of my party and just let the enemy come to me while they slaughtered them. I felt dirty for having to cheese it like that after being able to clear the game with everyone in my party before that. I was playing on Classic and as usual for FE going for a deathless run.
Clearly the honest way to play Conquest is to reset the game over and over until you get the right mine for the gem associated with forging tomes.
>>738359545You realize spirit dust costs 10000G, right? And magic 2000G of magic tonics = 13? You'd probably buy both in a heartbeat though unless you're one of those clowns that refuses to even use tonics.
>iron dagger+2>fire+2>lightning+1>bronze axe+2>steel axe+1What else is worth considering?
>>738359074I like logbook. And path bonuses..
>>738359720There's no reason to forge a steel ever. Bronzes, sometimes irons are worth forging to a pretty beefy level. Specialty weapons like Horse Spirit, Calamity Gate, and Lightning may also worth getting to +1 when possible. That's it, that's the entire forge meta.
>>738358902Merlinus shitter, its your redemption arc!>>738346579
Not anyone fighting over it but if you see forging in Fates as anything beyond a clearly busted mechanic your crazy. Sure use it all you want but spending 4k on forging a +4 Fire Tomb with the same might as the B rank Ragnarok with none of the downsides and higher might isn't a busted and probably unintended for normal play I don't know what to tell you. Forging especially when combined with farming for weird weapon drops is stupidly busted.
>>738359906>Sure use it all you want but spending 4k on forging a +4 Fire TomeA +4 fire tome would actually cost 8K, so same as a brave weapon
>>738359220using the logbook doesn't even require hacking. it's not even dlc. it's as legitimate as trading in pokemon.
>>738360008Would you trade in a Nuzlocke?
>>738359649>Spending 10k on a Spirit Dust when you already get 4 of themNice try lol. Fire +3 is still not that big of an improvement on +2.
>>738360008It's not that it's not legitimate, it's that it's gay, anon. I don't even see how you can compare forging a Fire to having access to Trample and Replicate in Ch. 10 in good conscience.
>>738360104I mean...yes? If you need the extra damage or staff accuracy? We literally did it in the relay. Why does everyone think so black and white here? Is it the 'tism?
I feel like autists have a very hard time accepting that there are alternatives to their own preferences and opinions so they make absurdly absolutist statements like "If you know what you're doing, you're using tome classes in Fates."No actually i've played the game with multiple party compositions and beaten it just fine. In fact i've beaten it with parties entirely chosen by other anons where I had maybe 1 tome user and 1 shuriken user that were any good at combat.
>>738359849My reasoning for the steel forge is that it only costs 1 gem and 0 gold, since you get some steels for free.Do you ever forge effective weapons like hammers?
>>738360230>I had maybe 1 tome userSo you had a tome user. Forging tomes for tome user would have helped you play the game better.
>>738360230Nobody is saying the game can't be beaten without the best weapon types. This entire argument started when some schmuck started lying about the royals being the only units in the game worth using because of Siegfried or whatever.
>>738360110>Create a weapon that's stronger than anything in game without effort, breaking the weapon hierarchy>Get skills that's stronger than what characters naturally have without effort, breaking the class systemBoth are degenerate
Gilliam thread next
>>738360334I've gotten into so many pointless Fates arguments over the years for just saying "the units in this game are actually really good and fixable, use the mechanics to have fun with all of them." That is the core of what I think defines Fates, but people get actually physically angry with you when you tell them about all the stuff they're leaving on the table.
>>738359849Conquest gives you enough free steels that it doesnt really break the bank to forge them up if you have the spare gems. It can be situationally useful.
>>738360071are relays playing nuzlocke rules? actually that would probably be better than normal relays.>>738360110a +3 forge is +6 might. trample is only +5 damage. I don't see how forging a +3 bow for chicken knight luna is ok but giving her bowfaire isn't.
>>738360398You aren't changing any minds with this. I hope you know that.>>738360540Nigga I know who you are and you have literally no idea what you're talking about. You cheated the everloving hell out of your first and only playthough.
>>738360540Because it breaks the intended progression of the game and introduces metagaming persistence NG+ crap into FE. You're not supposed to have level 15 skills on non-servant units in earlygame Conquest. Again, use it if you like, I'm explaining to you why it's unpopular.
>>738360540To be fair you're capped to a +2 forge until you get the ability to upgrade the blacksmith. Really though they should have swapped the order you get the forge effects in, make the first 2 the +1 strength ones, it's dumb that the last 2 are the shittiest when they cost so much more.
>>738360620I didn't cheat at all and I'm almost done with my second playthrough.
>>738360693
>>738360428This happens with the other games too when you talk about any unit that isn't a part of the community approved LTC meta.
>>738360667You spammed DLC and path bonuses and you weren't even playing on lunatic so you rigged level ups. You're way out of your depth here. Some of us have way more time in this game than you could ever imagine.
>>738360201>Staff Accuracy10000G for +2 Hit.
Stop acting like generalfags and play the relay
>>738360540>forging a +3 bowYou are spending five resources of one type to trade for the bow resource and using the arena to get eleven of that resource. if you're lucky enough to win the arena every chapter but not lucky enough to win two-per-chapter, that takes half the game. So the opportunity cost of this bow is forgoing axes, daggers, etc. That's what makes the forging mechanic work.
>>738360798We did it to raise Flora's entrap rate as high as possible for endgame. You have an excess of cash after 26, what else are you going to spend it on?
>>738360801Wallace would never behave like this, this is slander
>>738360754>you (used officially licensed Nintendo content for the game I say I like) so you cheated but when I (download fire emblem fates special edition cheat list from github, install cheats from the options folder in citra, turn on infinite gems, hit apply, then activate the cheats) it’s totally what they intended!Online FE “experts” need to get their heads checked
>>738360953They literally did intend for you to have unfettered access to gems through the online MyCastle functions. By your own logic that's "just another mechanic in the game".
>>738360953if you want to use officially licensed nintendo grinding dlc go right ahead, just don't post on /v/ expecting anyone to take your opinion seriously
>>738360946kys unfunny retard
>>738360946Keep making puns, king.
>>738361017>They literally did intend for you to have unfettered access to gems through the online MyCastle functions.exactly. just like they intended you to have unrestricted access to the logbook.
>>738361154What do you mean exactly? You just claimed they didn't intend for you to have access to gems. You're walking that back now?
>>738360953Niggas will argue for 100 posts about how to play the games and then not play any fire emblem
>>738361108Same for hacking in resources btw, you don't get to pick and choose to your liking.
>>738358773He has paired ending with men in radiant downs now go post your copes with priam on that bastadization called awakening you waste of air.
>>738361154Use your cheatbook bro. Don't gotta defend yourself to us.
>>738360920Staff Acc is a function of skill and mag. Did you also spend money on a secret book to inflate her staff accuracy?
>>738361239Yes.
>>738361215I'm too busy playing another game, as you can see.
>>738361228I played the relay, so I'm free to argue about video games instead of playing them. I've paid my tax, don't worry.
>>738361228Yes.
Did ever found that pure water on Fates? /s
>>738361273Nobody cares about the regays broA personal playthrough is worth 50x more
>>738361206no, someone else said that. I said that if you accept forging you must also accept the logbook or else you're a hypocrite.
>>738361273meant for >>738361215
>>738360540>luna
>>738361385Buddy, you're the only person I've seen who actually abuses the logbook AND gets upset that it's not looked upon fondly. It's not a liked feature, get over it.
>>738361385He's strawmanning because he can't fanthom someone condemning cheating of all kinds.
>>738361385Oh, well that's a genetic fallacy. You're arguing that the logbook is just as valid as forging solely because they're game mechanics. Similarly, Phoenix mode is a game mechanic.
Aqua
>>738361480how could I use the logbook on my first playthrough when online is dead?
Logbook: carrying over resources from past completed files to make a fresh, new run easierForging: not carrying over resources from a past completed file; self-contained to the current run
Fates threads suck now. Back in my day we posted porn in peace
>>738361229calm down sorenfag
I hope DEI weaves threads becomes a /pol/ shitfest.
>>738361848Relax maggot I hate him too and I don't see anything romantic on those two unlike your mentally ill fagbase.
I'm borrowing a hacked 3ds and I want to play SoV but the game doesn't launch, probably because the 3ds is using some old hack ("rxtools with pasta"). Is there something I can do to the game to get it working without affecting anything else?
>>738361978Tell your friend to stop being lazy and install the recent hack, it's literally so easy compared to the early versions.
>>738358943https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnuTGIq5JzI
>>738361373>D-doesn-t count!Did (you) play Fire Emblem today, anon? The gameplay tax collector is knocking!
>>738362173Damn he was spot on. So I guess FW is probably August or September since Splatoon Raiders and Rhythm Heaven are already confirmed to be the July releases for Summer.
>>738362173FF9 is sad but expected.Starfield is big lmao.Glad to know that FW, Duskborne and Rhythm Heaven all come out this year when I plan to actually get a Switch 2.
>>738361904Ike isn't gay. that's just fujos, queers, and trannies projecting their mental illness.
>>738362173So we'll have FW news in about a month? I'm more interested in that than buying a console jut for that game at this point. I just know there's going to be something super fucked up about the gameplay or the writing revealed that causes meltdowns, waiting on it.
>>738362538Best case scenario we will get a new trailer and release date next Tuesday
Celine's Golden Shower
>>738362484>Makes millions gaslight themselves into pretending that Odin is a good unit
>>738362747I don't have to pretend, I just have him get laid then let him enjoy the house husband life
>>738362659the more it's delayed the better. That way we can keep talking about fates and fe7
>>738362659Too soon after they just did something for Star Fox. I wouldn't expect anything until June now.
(ped)Ophelia!
>>738362747Everything good about Ophelia is inherited from her father so...
Ophelia's ass
turning Lisa into a great-grandmother!>>738363040not her stats/growth rates
>>738363040Not her weapons (Horse spirit, Calamity Gale)
>>738363178Odin contributes to 1/3rd of her growths and like half of her personal cap mods.
>>738363438...that's not how child growths rates work in fates. you're thinking of awakening.
>>738363438how does that work? does male corrin contribute to kana's growths?
