Is "Marvelification" the term for taking a game and stripping out everything compelling about it but still acting like it's a game for "the nerds" because it's related to a comic book or an old piece of media.This game feels utterly millennial. I don't even know what I mean by that, I just find it sickening. If I can make any analogue it's probably that.
>>738336140>i dont like thing and i cant articulate why!probably low iq issue.
>>738336140>I don't even know what I mean by thatThen why say it?You clearly want to bitch about Elden Ring but couldn't articulate a decent thought about it without talking about capeshit by the second word.YOU feel utterly millennial, cocksmoker.
>>73833614098% positive rate with 1.1 million reviews on steamyou lost
>>738336140I don't get you people, if you want a 3D metroidvania go and play DaS if that's what you want, From wanted to make an Open World ARPG and from that lens this is the best game in the genre.
>>738337105You will never get us
>>738337105whats das?
>>738338518Da(rk)S(ouls)
>>738336140It's called inshittification.You can also just say: Old good, New bad.>Are the older games in franchise X largely considered better than the new games in franchise X?>Where they chasing a new audience?Yes? Then Old good, New bad.
>>738338714>inshittification>Where they chasingESL moment
>>738336140i think they gave us so many tools to cheese the game that the challenge isn't really figuring out the combat, but findind the most effective cheese for every boss. see frost on malenia, or the stonewall+rot rapier on radahn consort.
>>738339294The problem is the devs choosing to participate in a difficulty arms race with speedrunners and streamers.The most autistic players are always going to beat your game using only their penis and some Donkey Konga drums, so let them.Stop trying to make these obnoxious bosses that take 200 attempts to learn every minute dodge window and combo string across 3 phases.I think this is why people prefer the older games. What it asked from you was not only reasonable, but it had a larger window of what you could comfortably use to do it.
>>738336227>>738336505I think the burden or proof is you on why to explain why something is good.This is some pretty high level and abstract reasoning for a game where a 50 foot orc demon does triple backflips and hits you with a tree trunk.>>738336808The Steam reviews said it. Case closed.Also IGN gave it a perfect game and declared Dark Souls "the ultimate game of all time" so you lose.If you want any piece of evidence that his board is dead and polluted with redditors like an infestation of barnacles, look no further.The video game journalists said it. Look no further.
>>738336140This game feels very skibiddy gyat ohio tung tung zahur. I don't even know what I mean by that btw!!!!
>>738339503i don't think it's the good players that pushed from, but their own design. they made the player too strong. there's broken weapon arts everywhere, you can summon spirit ashes for help without increasing the boss health. so you're overall too strong, and that calls for bosses that are too strong to balance you out
>>738339697>I feel like bitching about (game)>the burden of proof is on you to tell me why I'm a whiny bitchFuck off, fag.
Holy fucking shit this has to be the worst thread on /v/ in ages
>>738339798I personally think it's the opposite.The overly strong bosses came first as a natural escalation from DS3 and Bloodborne.Then came the crazy weapon arts and spirit ashes as a way from less skilled players to get past those bosses.From always say they naturally integrate difficulty sliders into their games, and they do. The weapon arts and spirit ashes are there to turn bosses from normal to easy, and from very hard to normal.In my opinion, the root of the tree is the arms race of difficulty. The overpowered options are natural branches off of that tree.
>>738339827I was here first.Stop pissing in my hand and calling it rain.This isn't Dark Souls. It's a Marvel film where Jake Gyllenhaal karate kicks an orc demon and spouts a quip that they can sell on a tshirt to complacent bearded bugmen.
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>>738340000or maybe they came at the same time and both kept escalating the other as development went on. i know i hate late game bosses much more than early ones. i had fun with margit and godrick, i hated malenia and and pc radahn
I genuinely had a lot of fun with elden ring yesterday. got all the way to morgott with a +5 heavy greatsword. took several tries to beat him. +5 sword was what i got while not looking for stones, just picking them up as i go, i think i should have had at least +12 by then but for a heavy greatsword +5 is fine. The boss didnt feel like a damage sponge either, i was chunking him for like 10% sometimes.
>swathes of open world with absolutely nothing in it, just filler between the actual worthwhile places>literal copypaste dungeons, many of which have actual palette swap bosses>spirit ashes add yet another feature that completely trivializes the entire game, added to the list of things you have to self-restrict in order for the game to even be remotely challenging>no memorable characters>no memorable ost>gigantic size means there's a ton of filler garbage meaning there's about a 90% chance whenever you find something it'll be completely worthless>tons of pointless crafting garbage through shitty menus>maybe 2 memorable bosses out of however many dozensIt's really not very complicated. Elden Ring was the casualification of the series, which is why it was so loved. The whole appeal of the series as a whole is making a game for casuals that lets them pretend they're real gamers, even though the entire game boils down to pressing a single button.The only good thing Elden Ring did was add a dedicated jump button (a feature almost every game ever made has had since the very inception of videogames), everything else was a legit downgrade.But hey, big = good, right? The average retard certainly thinks so.
>>738340856>>no memorable characters>>no memorable ostits one of the best ost in fromsoft games desu.
>>738340856>Elden Ring was the casualification of the series, which is why it was so loved.sure, name a boss from ds1 / demon souls (I am correct that you, a subhuman, would be refering to those games as being "hard") that is more complex than Maliketh. entertain me, vermin
>>738341305>memorable = hardOuted yourself as a literal retard. Not worth the keystrokes, just enjoy your slop.
>>738336140I did not play it.Found it all too tiresome.Dozens of threads on /v/ everyday since December up until its release. It felt like viral marketing.Normies caught up to the hype and for weeks before release, everybody was talking about it.Streamers, ecelebs and actual celebrities playing the game early, saturating social media.Mainstream media had articles, videos and post on Elden Ring for a solid week, there was no way you would not hear about this game.Streamers and reddit force memeing every part of the game, "maidenless" became zoomer's version of "the cake is a lie".Co-workers and people outside my social circle even talked about Elden Ring for a while.Eventually it lead to normies appropriating Souls games and the industry shitting out clones and clones of the same "roll spam" bullshit that became increasingly popular since Bloodborne and uninteresting by Dark Souls III.By the time people stopped talking about ceaselessly and wanted to play it, I watched dozens upon dozens of people beating the game one handed, with joke controllers, SL1 naked and even all of the above.I did not look for this information, youtube algorithm started pushing these videos because I looked up the soundtrack. So once again I wanted to ignore it because the personal experience was completely ruined.The reason you get these games is because they are challenging, but when you see teenage girls beat the game effortlessly, well is there another aspect of this game I should know about? Because the gameplay is already old, the graphics are just okay, the story is the same old From Soft formula.Without the "hardcore game for hardcore gamers" angle, might as well play Skyrim or Breath of the Wild. All fantasy games are the same old shit more or less.Ultimately Elden Ring is the game that convince me playing games for the challenge is stupid, since there will be a streamer that gets paid to play games with just an atari controller and their butthole.
>>738341305Yeah bro consort radahn is the best boss From ever made, totallyFromdrones are so fucking stupid
>>738340856Elden Ring has "themes" but I find it to be extremely on the nose.The key takeaway behind the poison swamp level isn't "poison" or "big frog creature", but "going into an unknown environment with low visibility where it's dark and unpleasant and confusing that sprawls out in all directions".You have a general idea about what to expect going into it and you can expect to find an item that generally reflects the world you're in like an anti-poison ring.Maybe it's just because the horse lets you haul ass and run circles around everything, but it feels so much more contrived when you run into Caelid and it's a wasteland of lava with big fire demons and a sick fire axe weapon.It's not extremely dumb. It's just... lame. It feels like a bog standard video game.Like MathewMatosis said, they've been thoughtlessly replicating things from the original Dark Souls and it feels like they don't even know why they're there. Blighttown was a poison swamp area because it's a literal sewer and there are strange demented creatures because they live in the dreggs of society knee deep in shit.>This is fine. Looks like a good place to sit on the ground cross legged and wait for a random guy to show up and buy the things on my picnic blanket.
>Marvelification>the hardest Fromsoft game everexplain
>>738341773>hardestlolsouls games are only hard if you don't use half the game's featuresthe only exception is Sekiro, in which you actually have to git gudwhich is also why it's one of the least popular From titles
>>738341554Not a single argument given, as expected.
>>738341585nice essay amigo
>>738341773>Lil girl beats the game with a DDR pad on SL1>Another Teenage girl beats Elden Ring SL1 as well while speedrunning it>A fish beat Melenia, an actual FISH>Several guys in attempts to outdo the above beat the game with their feet, a rock band controller, an actual saxophone, wii motes, xbox kinect, blindfolded while juggling chainsaws>">the hardest Fromsoft game ever"The best part is that the Elden Ring tourist will seethe at Dark Souls 2 Gods because "No, that game is not hard, is just artificial difficulty"Which is why Elden Ring is so SOVLESS, Dark souls is about bullshit challenge, broken hitboxes and cheap deaths.Elden Ring is just roll spam and learning when to roll spam but you can call up friends if the game is not easy enough for you.
>>738341856/v/ can't stop whining about how Elden Ring's bosses are too hard for them. I hear it all the time. Not exactly the thing you expect from a game that's been casualized.
>>738341602That would be messmer
>>738341773>hardest fromsoft game>people beat it with ddr mats
>>738342164Wow! You sure made a point that Elden ring bosses are actually... easier than the previous games despite having far more complex movesets, far harsher difficulty curves with far more damaging moves, literal lifesteal and so forthVery funny how you brought up all these challenges for Elden ring, it sure is totally weird that nobody has even attempted these kinds of challenges in the previous entries, should we take a look on YouTube?
>>738342520Damn, someone beat Sekiro with a DDR mat? That sounds pretty interesting, can you link me the video, you stupid fucking retard?
>>738342165Elden Ring was the most successful From Soft launch ever eclipsing anything that came before and sadly that did not translate well into helping Armored core 6, the game From soft actually wanted to make.Veterans of the franchise found it 3easy4them reason guides for SL1, like the one used by the girl who beat the game with the DDR pad, were written not two months after launch.People complaining about its difficulty had not played anything harder than pokemon or zelda.
>>738341773I don't want to just come out swinging against this post but you need to understand just how annoying this is.Like I said, nobody no longer knows what Dark Souls is. It's been lost to the ages. It's a bog standard video game brand video game that sold 30 million copies.When you say "hard", what you mean is that the bosses do the most attacks a second and do the most nonsensical weapon arcs and are literally the biggest because they're 100 feet tall.This is the most one dimensional description of gameplay imaginable. The best Street Fighter player is someone that mashes buttons 50 times a second. The best driver in the world is someone that drives in a straight line going mach 7 in a Bugatti.There is a world of things that you can say about a video game beyond ADHD riddled button mashing and Dark Souls exemplified about a dozen of them.When I say "hard" what I mean is that you get dropped into a world where nothing is explained to you except "go up and ring a bell".When I say "hard" I mean that your decisions have consequences and that killing someone has serious consequences on your 100 hour playthrough.When I say "hard" I mean that it rewards paying attention and that missing something important can have serious consequences.Playing Dark Souls for the first time looks like getting your ass kicked in a claustrophobic hallway by a single generic knight character. Half the people killed him after a dozen tries and a few people figured out that you can bait him up a set of stairs and run back down and some guy figured out that you can kill him by chucking 5 firebombs at him.For your efforts you're rewarded with about 500 souls or a single titanite shard or just generally learning how the environment works.Riveting. This is more memorable to me than the entire prologue of Elden Ring.
>>738336140I'll never understand the Elden Ring hatred and the Dark Souls praise. Oh you prefer spending hours searching various dead ends to pick up items you'll never use? And after that you prefer to fight bosses that cycle through a series of attacks, swinging at open air, when you're across the room? Right on. You're such a unique gamer who doesn't follow trends.
>>738342769>frogposter>reddit spacing>blogpost tier lengthshan't be reading this, I will now call you a slurnigger
>>738342520>having far more complex movesetsJust because the Boss continues its attack animation well after you rolled 3 miles east doesn't make it complex, especially because by that time you saw that same attack animation 11 times and Elden ring arenas are HUUUUUUUUGEEEEEE.>should we take a look on YouTube?Do you ever step out of youtube? That is where you get your opinions.
>>738342769Bad ux is not "hard". There is nothing fun about accidentally killing a merchant and making your game experience permanently shittier. The only difficulty in dark souls 1 comes from the moments when you become so bored you just start rushing forward and getting sloppy. With $1,000 or something on the line I guarantee any normie could finish the game deathless. Get over yourself.
>>738342980You have wasted unfathomable amounts of your life on this shit website and you still don't know what reddit spacing is.You people out yourself more than anyone using "reddit spacing" because it just shows that you've never written anything longer than one sentence
>>738342597sure, here's one right here:https://youtu.be/y4wu-DnhQZ4?si=ZMtTLhfKY48rWqmgI'll be kind and do you one even better, how about a fully blindfolded run of sekiro?https://youtu.be/FQeeRBtQgzE?si=ERwSzo3ZS5YIb4wHOr how about dark souls 3? It's an older game so SURELY it must be harder right? That's the kind of argument that's being thrown here after all!https://youtu.be/UxKsRf6R-vc?si=neP_7kA15m-N2p0x
>>738336140>I don't even know what I mean by that>It's a bunch of rainbow vomit disguised as plot. Mass Effect was rightly hated for doing that.>Every single enemy in the game is trying to clip farm for GOTY by record-scratch-freeze-framing in the air and winking at the camera before using a rape-everything AOE. >The game says fuck your camera, camera only exists to mine clips of streamers getting mad and doing silly faces. >Every large boss is just a transparent disembodied pair of legs doing karate because CULLING HIDES EVERYTHING and enemies would rather zig-zag incoherently than be well-designed.>Fake diversity, every weapon in the game is just a corndog disguised as a weapon. This corndog does 8 more damage than that corndog, and looks... slightly different! waow!>Medieval = peasant British "some more, sir? can I haves me porridge?" no depth, lackluster.>horse combat worse here than in PS2 musou.>Fake build depth, most of the shit is locked until snowfield. You'll get it, realize it sucks, and then only have caves to jump-R2 some low-level boss.>Every player's personality is the exact same, spams shield, randomized intentionally ugly bearded tranny character, points downward gesture, no gesture, guts cosplay.>All interesting shit is nerfed or bad. INT? laser spam. ARC? nerfed status effects. DEX? slop. STR? slop no variety. END? Shield slop. on and on.It's trough-slop for greater fool piggies.
>>738342769Yeah.The level design was a great part of these games.Elden Ring seems like streamer bullshit by comparison since it is Ooops all Bosses, there is nothing memorable about the way to journey because it is copypasted a dozen times.>>738342980He is right and you are the reddit tourist.>Nuh muh hardcore game NOOOO>sometimes you have to roooolll left and sometimes to the rightYou are poser, a fraud, your favorite game was raped by streamers and if you still struggle with it, it only means you are a shitter.Stick to donating to people more talented than you, you are nothing but a spectator born to witness greatness but NEVER attain it.You are a viewer, a prop, a background character, you are here to suck and make people look better in comparison and that is all you will ever be.
>>738336140It has the best environmental storytelling of any modern game. To the point where you can analyze it using archaeological perspectives
>>738343480>The level design was a great part of these games.elden ring has the most complex level design out of any fromsoftware title if you disagree then feel free to show a dungeon that's more complex than stormveil or leyndell.
>>738340856>I bought an open world game expecting it to be a hallway simulator AIEEEEEEEEE
>>738343671nta but stormveil is just shitty sen's fortress retread, and leyendell is just reskinned yharnam.
I just hope Fromsoft doesn't continue to make enemies have ridiculous anime movesets in the future.
>>738343257Dark Souls isn't hard.You heard it here folks.Dark Souls never had a pause menu not because the game was supposed to be difficult but because incompetent UI designers never figured out how to make one.You people are hopeless to complete a game like Dark Souls in 10 lifetimes. You watch a YouTube video where a 13 year old with a dubstep intro shows you how to get OP in 15 minutes and say it's easy because you just go behind a hidden wall behind a waterfall and kill a random person and then go to a completely different part of the map and give them a random item with no use. ez clap.Video games are dead and so is entertainment in general. I take back every time I ever tried to defend gamers when people said it wasn't "real art".The only part I find interesting about this is that /v/ specifically has no idea what you're talking about when you say a modern title is a lame and one dimensional version of an old game.Where in this is the people that spent 10+ years bitching about Diablo 3.
>>738341720>but it feels so much more contrived when you run into Caelid and it's a wasteland of lava with big fire demons and a sick fire axe weaponthere's no lava in caelid.> Blighttown was a poison swamp area because it's a literal sewer and there are strange demented creatures because they live in the dreggs of society knee deep in shit.Just like Caelid is the aftermath of a giant war between 2 large factions fighting for the right of lordship. You have no argument.
Every soulsbornering game is slop>kill boss>zanzibart. . . forgive me.>repeat this formula 6 timesBRAVO MIYAZAKI
>>738340856Open world added to the atmosphere of the game, the spring vibes and golden tree hue at its brightest in Limgrave filled the player with awe. Following we experience realms blighted by war, realms that reflect a harsh and brutal nature of a demigod, realms that represent desolate effects of the Shattering, realms meant to hide something, realms that represent a girls power in hindsight. Open world is just part of the environmental story telling that makes Elden Ring a great game. Not understanding this is a personal choice either you're extremely ignorant(doubt this) or you're purposefully ignoring it so you can be contrarian
>>738342769>When I say "hard" what I mean is that you get dropped into a world where nothing is explained to you except "go up and ring a bell".This is genuinely just bad game design. The only defense for this is the intention was to drive community discussions, which is retarded. How many players floundered around and gave up after an hour because the game felt boring and aimless? That's simply a bad design. They created a thing and a considerable percentage of players were unable to engage with it properly. They wasted their time and effort.I understand why you like it. But it's honestly stupid to expect any company to cater to this kind of thing.
>>738341602That would be Rellana
>>738343671>You walk and sometimes there is a guy, maybe two.Even DS2 gank squads were something but the games were at its best when it was blocky corridors and a funny skeleton would push you off a ledge or a series of barrels would explode.
>>738343427kek, raped
>>738344173>>You walk and sometimes there is a guy, maybe two.the LITERAL FUCKING OPENING OF FUCKING STORMVEIL ALREADY DISPROVES THISDid you even fucking play the game, what fucking happens when you go through the main gate in stormveil?
>Overtune the fuck out of some mechanics>Make punishment windows half the length they were in DeS/DaS/BB to make sure you fit your difficulty quota>Every guide-following NPC uses the same build that breaks the game wide open thinks it's a 10/10 because they didn't have to actually engage with the majority of the game systems>Everyone else is left confused at why the game is so horrifically disjointed in its design, but are drowned out by Timmy Normalfag being so eager to finally be able to say git gudElden Ring was a mistake and SOTE confirms they're dead.
>>738344070not to mention the majority of the journey is seamless. you can go from the beastial sanctum, through limgrave, through liurnia, through altus, through to the lift to the mountaintops and all connected dungeons without a single loading screen.
>>738336140ER and soulslop deadass are not Marvel enough for me fr
>>738343427NTA but playing with a DDR pad looks like fun.I wish the Sega Activator or the Kinect were around.It looks like secret tech.If I wasn't a BIG guy 4 UUUU I would try it.Also...they do seem to be struggling, even the girl had to hold onto something while Elden Ring still looks like it was the easiest one.
>>738344070>the spring vibes and golden tree hue at its brightest in Limgrave filled the player with awe.Chat GTP wrote this post.Elden Ring fanbase on fraud watch.
>>738343940When is the last time you played through dark souls 1? It is not hard. I understand it was hard back in 2011. But after playing through every other game, including elden ring, and coming back it is truly the easiest souls game of the bunch. If you disagree the idk what to say you might just be shit
>>738336140It is really funny when Fromdrones act like a game that sold 30 million copies is still a game that’s only for the most hardcore of gamers, like that isn’t a direct contradiction.
Sometimes i just feel bad at how retarded zoomers are their only mode of communication is "Say thing i like is good, right now!"
>>738344139>people found it hard and didn't want to play it so it's bad game designMy rebuttal to this is that not every game is designed to be easy and accessible to everybody.There is nothing else to say to this.Some people want a memorable and challenging experience from their entertainment. There exist people that watch a movie to see something unique or make themselves think.This message brought to you in a discussion about Dark Souls. The successor to "Demon's Souls", which was a game assumed to be a complete failure that can only be described as the developers doing whatever the fuck they felt like.
>4 years of 24/7 seethe not just at the game but at the players
>>738336140They wanted the VaatiVidya audience. Cryptic shit that e-celebs can content farm like it was Nintendo Power.
>>738344851The game company doesn't care what you want. They care about selling games. And the majority of people want games that aren't flagrantly obtuse. Sorry
>>738344342>the best part of the game is the 10 minutes that kinda resemble DS if you squintFrom soft should make a game that is like that all the time....oh wait.Don't kid yourself kid, this game is casual and you are only saying is hard because you were hard coded into thinking it it. It has the highest completion rate out of all other Souls games.
>>738344615Yes it's an easy game 15 years after literally everyone and their grandmother knows what it is and have retreaded every single plant and every single "secret" is available on a WikiI literally cannot imagine any of the people in this thread being handed a controller and having the wherewithal to go through 200 hours of Dark Souls and coming out the other end having beaten the game. Like I literally cannot imagine it. They're going to say the game sucks in the first 15 minutes because it "has no plot". If they make it to blighttown they're going to get pissed because there's no bell anywhere and give up.I'm not trying to just be rude and abrasive but holy fuck "you people" are testing me.Put your head in a microwave, think nigga
>>738336140Dark Souls 1 clearly presented itself as open world. With no clear direction you were obviously meant to explore, backtrack, and redo areas multiple times. Elden Ring was the obvious direction the series was always going to go.
>>738345053They... did. They had at least 3 games that were passion projects made by people that didn't give a fuck how much it sold.I'm starting to think you people literally don't even know what Demon's Souls is.A moral and technical argument to you is the same thing, and it's both just "capitalism says it". The best game of all time is some bullshit Tencent gacha game with 800 million players.This is too exhausting. I don't even go to /v/ regularly and I cannot take this shit anymore.Dark Souls is dead.Video games are dead.The 2016 election was 10 years ago and this website has been completely replaced like the Ship of Theseus.I'm going to go play Helldivers before this place makes me literally retarded.
>>738345264You're insane. I've played through Dark Souls 1 and its DLC three different times. Most recently in 2024. It is not a hard game.See my other post >>738342894
>>738345264I love making up things about the people I'm arguing against in an attempt to make me the morally superior voiceThis time I'm using the true and tested method of: you're ACTUALLY too retarded to have played dark souls 1 without a guide that means ds1 is in fact the hardest game Literal tranny response, no wonder given that trannies are the one who autistically latch onto a singular game / franchise and make it define their entire personality and PoV
>>738343940Dark Souls was hard. If you go into it completely blind your going to have a challenge. Everyone already knows all the top strategies now that make it trivial.
>>738342769So getting your shit kicked in your first souls game is nostalgic? Because I'm sure you didn't 100% elden ring without a guide
>>738345061>this game is casual and you are only saying is hard because you were hard coded into thinking it itI have played every single modern day fromsoftware ARPG fully blind (which in fact, is the way I play every game) I know the layout of every single level, from latria to leyndell, from oollacile township to lothric castle, there is no single level that beats elden ring in complexity, difficulty or layout. Some are equal, such as Latria 3-1 and PBWT 4-1/4-2 and Valley 5-2, which are all balanced by their pathetic "bosses" at the end. And that's not discussing the bosses, in which are magnitudes more difficult and complex than what they ever have created in their earlier entries
“Complex” in this case meaning that they have more attacks to roll through
>>738345264NTA but I beat DSII without ever leaving Company of Champions just because I could.And it wasn't that far from DS release but since I did not stream it, it did not count.Now I see an entire generation of people that get paid to play videogames, easier if you are a girl, clowning on games they get for free and are paid to play them. Meanwhile I have to pay for them (at times...) and play on hardware that I bought with my own money and only get to play them on the little spare time I have after work.The guys that make the guides these people use for their "jobs" get absolutely no credit for their effort or are mentioned at all, so fans became "useful idiots" to streamers monetizing their effort.Even the girl who beat ER on a DDR Pad got cheated on by a guy who stole her clip, reacted to it and got 5 million views, so he made more money than her without the effort.So these games went from personal adventures you played for funsies to streamer click bait and the clowning only makes these games look worse and worse to the point these people are doing a disservice to the series, and so is every faggot here jerking them off by defending Elden Ring.So either I accept that "Elden Ring is so hard u guys XD" but also accept that a fish can beat the game, which seems a really strong counterpoint to the notion, or accept that "Souls was never hard" but either way the series are tainted. Yes! videogames are nothing but time sinks, but having that thrown in your face merely takes away all the enjoyment.I will forever hate Elden Ring, and its playerbase for being the kind of reddit minded retards that robbed me out of enjoying these series because beating these games will never feel good again.Beating these games will remind me that either I am a casual because I did not beat the game while doing a handstand using just a "Hey You Pikachu" controller or that the games are EZ Peasy.The moral of the story is to always gatekeep your hobby.
>>738340856Skyrim has more varied dungeons than Elden Ring. I'd go so far to say it has more varied gameplay as well.
>>738346863and jumps, and blocking, and guard countering. I'm glad we agree that elden ring on top of having complex bosses, also has a far more diverse combat options compared to their earlier entries.
>>738347048>I hate elden ring because some retards online look up guides and that makes me sad?
>>738336808Damn, then Roblox must be the best video game ever made.
>>738336140>>738336808>>738336227>>738339697https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT_hjJtZEDY&lcElden Ring is pretty good in its own way. It offers a large variety of approaches you can take.
>>738346632>I have played every single modern day fromsoftware ARPG fully blind (which in fact, is the way I play every game)Your double chin does help your claim.>I know the layout of every single level, from latria to leyndell, from oollacile township to lothric castle,there is no single level that beats elden ring in complexity, difficulty or layout. Some are equal, such as Latria 3-1 and PBWT 4-1/4-2 and Valley 5-2, which are all balanced by their pathetic "bosses" at the end.Was I not supposed to feel sorry for you when you type that? Like you want a tryhard award? At this point ability and success in this game is measured in twitch subscribers.Maybe so, but you are gigantic faggot and helped these series seem gay and retarded and nothing you say will ever take away the fact girls and pets beat the game.And you never really expand what you mean with complexity.------Enemy----Enemy----Gate---Ledge---Stair---Enemy---Room---Enemy---Stairs---GateSo COMPLEX!You are only helping reinforce the notion that Elden Frauds are fake fans that jerk off a so-so game because it is popular. At this point the games belongs to reddit now.I already set my mind on playing AC or NG because people like you made Souls games really gay.
>>738336808lol thats his point, just like avengers/marvel
>>738341305>summon mimic tear>winWow, so hard, much difficulty.
>>738347149Jumping is the same as rolling, blocking has always been a part of the serious. Guard countering is incredibly situational that doesn't work on majority bosses, and those that does work against doesn't justify its mere existenceIf you really think Elden Ring is complex, then I have to wonder what other games you've played in your life
>>738347912>If you really think Elden Ring is complex, then I have to wonder what other games you've played in your life>also has a far more diverse combat options compared to their earlier entries.reading comprehension
>>738347986It doesn't, that's my point. It's the same as the previous, and it isn't complex to begin with.
>>738343959No, it's>I wanted to add yet another poison swamp but people keep making fun of me for adding poison swamps so instead it's """Scarlet Rot."""
>>738341305The less you get to attack the more complex the boss is?
>>738347257If that is what you inferred you are retarded, but zoomies have trouble reading more than 3 words at the time.Here's something more your speed:Kys faggot lol.I have been with the series since Demon's souls and I feel completely alienated by ER fanbase.You people are not here to have fun, you are zombies regurgitating the same "ER is hard" meme and watch people play the game.Invasions in ER are completely optional now, that should tell you something.But hey a million flies said this shit taste baller, so what can I hope to accomplish now? I won't change your mind.All I can do is ignore the series and blacklist From Soft games since normies ruined it, same with W40K.It belongs to the fags now.
Post things you personally dislike the most in ER. I'll start>night time bosses>bethesda-style reused dungeons>horse riding>armor is mostly an aesthetic choice>NPCs quest locations are still vague and nonsensical>pure strength is still best way to play the game
>>738341305is this the one?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IY7BvV8qsfsparry twice and boss is dead to lvl 1 character doesnt seem that complex imo
>>738348518Every enemy has a helicopter style spinning combo
>>738336140I didnt read your post but I'd like to say I want to rape Marika so bad
>>738348518for me its how lifeless and static the world istheres moments that I love, but then you look at bit closer and it just falls apart. like the giant carriage or the ghost battles
>>738348518>>armor is mostly an aesthetic choiceCompletely not true lmao>>night time bossesWhat about them?
>>738348812he hates them cant u read u fucking retard
>>738341585I never played dark souls because it was for "hardcore gamers". It's because I enjoyed what the game offered that I overcame its difficulty.
>>738348812NTA but it's annoying how nighttime bosses don't actually appear when night falls unless you reload the area.
>>738349123Story>Crapshoot world that may or not be a dream or a memory>Game story is mostly told by item descriptions and vague metaphors from NPCs.Atmosphere>Gothic Castle>Spooky Graveyard>Dangerous Lava World>More or less the same as Super Mario 64All that is left is the music and PVP but EldenRedditors hate the funny red men.
>>738347048So you hate these games, or actually videogames in general, because other people make money by playing them? What's stopping you from dropping your job and becoming a full time streamer playing videogames for a living?
>>738348712NTA.This is a polar opposite from actual Dark Souls.>Giant Xbox Hueg bad guy >Attack hitbox is actually smaller than what you are led to believe>SL1 and that guy has stamina to attack, defend and evade>Arena is fucking huge, you could fit Manjula in there>Recycled mid air record lunging attack from every other boss>Several instances where the boss just waits to be attacked instead of punishing a movement or in between attacksWhat is the smough ornstein of this game?So far it does look like Babby's First Souls.
>>738350273he clearly means the developers panders to streamers to make the game rage/fun/shock-bait rather than be games played by actual people. idk how reading comprehension is so hard for zoomers really.
>>738350620I'm sure dark souls bosses are a lot harder
