How bad is this compared to the original trilogy?
quit being so pessimistic
>>738338416It's not bad, more boring. The characters are sterile as fuck and most of the levels are forgettable. I legitimately can't remember 90% of that game
>>738338416Not bad in isolation but it does telegraph a wider problem for later Sony exclusives.
>>738338416It's fine. Better than 2016 anyway
>>738338416play the original or ps3 trilogy. making the gameplay too good makes everything easy
>>738338615This. If you've sunken cost falancy the game series then it's worth it just for contuniation sake. It's safe and boring, not really difficult compared to any other R&C game. Just feels like they wanna drag out the story more.
>>738338416Gameplay-wise it's more of the same. Doesn't really make use of the whole dimension hopping angle save for 2 levels and even then it's not doing much that A Crack in Time didn't already do in its 2 time travel gimmick levels. Writing is the worst in the series. People talk about how Ratchet became a boy scout in the PS3 games but he is a literal boy scout in this game.
>>738338416Horrible. They started using a Children's Focus Group since the 2016 Remake, and literally iterate the game's content until it's approved by 7-year-olds.So everything feels overly "wholesome" and toothless now. There's none of the spark left that made it a "cool" game for kids. Now it's just sort of a kid-friendly shooter with superficial cutscenes where the characters make puppy eyes to each other.
>>738338416It's about on par with TOD. It's not a good point in the series, but it is an overall good game.
It's worse than the OG trilogy, better than the future trilogy. It's like on par with UYA in terms of story and weapons, a few of the levels are pretty open and empty, prison level and final boss were really fun. Rivet telling flubberbot to fuck off was cool.
Gameplay-wise it is the peak of the series. Story-wise it is weaker.
>>738338416It's nothing memorable but it's alright if you've got some time to waste for a playthrough.I enjoyed the game much more after muting dialogue and subtitles, seriously, give that a try for these marvel-writing movie games. They suddenly feel a lot better designed.>Turn dialogue audio back on for a mandatory audio-based puzzle>IMMEDIATELY get hit with some pirate singing "WOMEN IN RESPECTABLE POSITIONS OF POWER">Mute the audio again
>>738338416Characters feel flanderized even more so than in the PS3 games. Clank literally says "Holy [BLEEP]" in response to some undead You have a dodge button now on top of strafe jumping to avoid homing attacksRivet is awkward as shitThugs 4 Less is basically ground horse meat after being beaten to death the last few times they've shown up and still have none of the charm from their original appearance.The clank puzzles I guess are neat and the little hackbot is cute, that's about all the real positives I can give this game. And I guess guns are the same as they've ever been, no real standouts for me.
>>738338416is it true they made the woman a dyke?
It's the textbook definition of the words soulless and mediocre. If you like all the PS3 games then you'll probably have a decent enough time. The writing is still shit, the music is forgettable, the side content is as gutted as it could possibly be, and it's really short for how much you pay for it. But the gameplay is still fairly competent
Human men?
>>738338416It's an alright R&C game and looks incredible on an OLED so solid 8/10
>>738347189That's just what one employee who didn't make the character said. Just their deranged headcanon. There's no lombax scissoring involved in the actual game.
>>738347189there are no straight women in snoy games
>>738347343OK but I assume they made sure that there's no romantic tension between Ratchet and the only other female he's ever met of his own species?
>>738338416> personality is neutered, no jokes, no ratchet being pissed off.>You fight the same enemy over and over again - which I guess is no different to RC3>Game is shorter but due to lack of variety the length is more suitable for the game. And doesn't feel too drawn out.>Just more fighting slop so if you like RC3 out of the og trilogy you'll like it, it's mediocre if you like 1 or 2.>Graphics are amazing.
>>738347597If you'd lived your life thus far never meeting another human you'd probably be more attracted to lobsters or something anyway.
>>738338416>>738338615>>738339676samefag
>>738338416The writing isn't ever that funny and the music is forgettable, but it's a decent shooter on hard. It has some fun weapons even if they're not all winners.If you've played the PS3 games recently then it will feel real stale though. All the levels and enemies are essentially recycled from Tools, Crack, and Nexus. There are very few original foes and the minibosses get repeated constantly.
>New weapons are fun (and they're actually mostly original this time instead of just being like 3/4 copy/pastes from previous games) but the ammo balance is shit, I kid you not most weapons in the game have like 4-5 ammo so you're literally using a new gun for SECONDS and then you have to switch>Too many modern gameisms like excessive "story" sections with no actual gameplay, "seamless" cutscene transitions that just waste time where a hard cut could have sufficed (you will notice this if you struggle on an arena challenge of which there are only 15 btw), hold-to-select menu elements, characters that never shut the fuck up>A lot of the returning characters just sound weird or have replacement VAs that sound NOTHING like them. The only character that still sounds the same is Nefarious, everyone else sounds wrong.>Ratchet and Clank's characterizations are pretty much at their blandest. Kit is whatever. Rivet is more likeable than I expected.>It's not really any woke or gay but the character designs are all just sexless and androgynous as fuck.>Nefarious troopers are pretty entertaining and fun to fight. ToD pirates are rehashed again. The Thugs4Less fuckers are alright.>Invader Zim narrates the arena and it made me want to kill myself.>Game dangles Giant Kit in front of you like a morsel of food in front of a starving slave and never lets you play as her.>lock-strafe only controls even though I will die on this hill that third person plays better and would have saved me several deaths while playing on extreme or whatever the hardest difficulty is called>there's a stupid WAUGHMP sound effect every time you're reduced to half health and it never stops being annoying.Those are my thoughs. I'd put it on the same tier as Into the Nexus basically. Just a late sequel that still plays alright and is too short and adds nothing to the series. If you liked Into the Nexus you'll like Rift Apart.
>>738349113Oh yeah also if you run up to the ship too fast you can get partially stuck when the doors open on you. It's kind of funny but it makes you wonder how the fuck they NEVER found that in playtesting, it's so easy to do.
>>738349113>I kid you not most weapons in the game have like 4-5 ammo so you're literally using a new gun for SECONDS and then you have to switchPersonally I like this, it's encouragement to actually switch weapons without arbitrary reasons like "this enemy immune to X"
>>738338416Franchise has been in worse places.Taking the series altogether I think it's in the middle. Probably the best game post-Deadlocked that isn't ACiT.>>738347597>the only other female he's ever met of his own species?She isn't the only one. Angela was around, even if Insomniac forgot about her.
>>738338416it plays alright but has the same problems every modern insomniac game has, where everyone talks to each other like they're polite co-workers. it also has the same problems as the later ratchet games have where it's more shooter than platformer, but the shooting is generally too easy and solved entirely by just circle strafing. it's not bad, but it isn't very good either.
great game but a bit short
>>738347597What about Angela?
Just stick with the PS2 games.
>>738338416obviously nothing holds a candle to the original 4 ps2 games. but to answer your question it's meh and ok-ish. Only the short ps3 games are worse along the horrible remake/movie tie-in that should never exist.rift apart is worth a playthrough for really cheap or pirated but not more than that.also what >738349113 said
>>738350583that ruins her whole character, if she ever had one.>>738350693>>738351106she's twice as tall as ratchet, he probably thought it was a guy
>>738350583https://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/738338416/#738350583>harmless textwhy'd you delete that?
>>738338416Feminist propaganda>replacing ratchet in his own game with a roast beef
>>738348887Nope sorry bitch, The game isn't good just because you wana fuck the Lombax
>>738354113Tranny jannies seething as usual
>>738354257>replacingyou play as both pretty evenly
>>738354635There was absolutely no need for Rivet at all
>>738354671>I want a game about multiverses but with no alternate versions of our protagsseems a bit silly no?
>>738354745>we NEED a woman acting like a man>we NEED a water that isn't wet
>>738354910how can you hate a woman acting like a man when you're a man who cries about inane shit like a woman? seems like a double standard to me
A bit better than the ps2 ports of the psp games a bit worse than the digital exclusive ps3 game. If you have played every other game in the series it is worth playing, there are worse gameS in the franchise, but it isnt anything spectacular
>>738355008>please stop noticing and criticising the propaganda
>>738355701>noo don't notice I'm behaving like a hysterical woman!!!!
>>738338416Gameplay is fine but it loses most of the charisma and charm that the original tetralogy had. Boyscout Ratchet just doesn't work narratively when you're giving him a wrench and a gun and telling him to commit war crimes. Imagine a Ratchet & Clank game came out, but instead of Ratchet & Clank it was Clank & Clank.
>>738355750>if you criticise the lefty establishment propaganda you're acting like a woman!!!
>>738355008i would prefer it if women were depicted realistically in all fiction, i think feminism inside and outside of media has done a lot more harm than good for women. it's not just about whether or not my peepee likes it.
>>738356041>I want X depicted realistically in all FICTIONbrother
>>738338416It's pretty good
>>738356074because fiction influences reality, you'll understand eventually>>738356147you're right, maybe it's a bug after they did that URL change recently (url now shows part of OP).i can't imagine it's an intentional downgrade like when they removed the number that shows how many IPs are posting in a thread.
>>738356303>>738356147i notice that if i press F5 i can no longer see how long ago the post was made, only on posts that gets appended to the thread via JavaScript.this has to be a bug.
>>738338416The original trilogy is so good i played this mediocre shit game till the end.
>>738356443i just wish they would explain what the fuck is happening. why was the IP count removed? i can guess but why do I have to guess?https://4chan.org/4channews?all#oldnewsthere's a news section, it could have something else other than just "happy birthday" once per year...there's also the blog, maybe post there?https://blog.4chan.org/
>>738356668it's the little things, the captcha message still say it has been *typed* incorrectly when you get it wrong. there's no typing involved now.and why is the "Post" button still active even when the captcha is not in the "Done." state? a bot never presses Post too early so it only annoys humans that press Post instead of Next.been bitching about this for months now from time to time and it would take 2 minutes to fix bot these things.
>>738356820>>738356848why would they kill their own honey pot?
>>738356303>because fiction influences reality, you'll understand eventuallyI look forward to the day where I can shoot kamehamehas then
>no good news about the series for years>remake was shit>movie was shit (a good scene here and there but overall it shit over everything the original did)>get hyped as fuck when the trailer for this comes out>immediately lose almost hope when the heroes are separated (once again, after the last main series game split them up for 90% of the game)>nearly all remaining interest dies when Rivet is shownWhen I finally played it, it was pretty much exactly what I expected. Ratchet is even more of a beta, Clank thinks being broken is okay, female-piss colored Clank was annoying as fuck and as another anon said they teased the fuck outta Giant Clank again but it was fucking nothing (meaning the last giant Clank battle is still the shitty UFO mission from GC), and OG Nefarious goes from a galaxy destroying menace to a Saturday morning cartoon villain without his sidekick (Laurence missing was very noticeable).The whole thing just makes me depressed. Yeah, the guns are better than ACiT but that wouldn't have taken much and what do cool, badass guns matter when youre playing a boyscout who has no edge? When R&C are tossed aside like paper by Nu-Nefarious I was ready to turn the game off but I love the series and pushed through the pain just to play as R&C together on the PS5, like I fucking wanted in the first place.The new VA for Qwark was horrible either, but Jim Ward's absence was severely felt as well.
>>738359668Forgot about the Holo Star Studios Giant Clank battle, but that was barely anything as well. It's retarded how left such a badass concept fall to the wayside for features/additions that don't come anywhere near the coolness that did.
The weapon upgrading is lame. When the weapon is maxed out almost nothing feels like it changes anymore. I wish they would just go back to fewer weapons with more meaningful upgrades and more puzzles/platforming.
Can we talk about this game? It is absolutely surreal to play. I've been playing it recently and if you were to make me forget its release date and guess for it I'd say last 5 years, 10 years tops. If you were to tell me that it actually is almost TWENTY years old and came out only THREE years after deadlocked I would shit my pants. You'd think this would be something that would happen around the movie reboot but no it was 2007.How the fuck does this game have so many of the most garbage "modern game" trends despite being so old?>Pointless dialogue in every room, whether its radio chatter of bad guys or someone saying death to lombax>Backstory dialogue where you need to talk to characters to get lore dumps>Clank almost immediately telling you what to do with items you just picked up and zoni spoiling any new puzzle>Another secondary weapon upgrade system that no one asked for just because we love leveling and unlocks for some reason>Baby mode devices added to make not dying easier>Super serious personal backstory plot that barely fits the vibe of the R&C games>Humor feels weird because its fighting against this serious plot rathe then the whole thing being simple and silly from the start>Awful character animations making them struggle to show emotion>Skill points that are Breaking Glass tiered tedium with shit like the dancing oneIts just insane to me, did the fire the entire old R&C staff and hire new people for the future series? How did in three years they made the game so bad? I'll keep playing it just to finish it but still what were they thinking?
>>738338416Everything past the PS2 games are just watered down family friendly Pixar crap. Insomniac is a shell of its former self.
>>738360948they hired hollywood screenwriters to replace the random devs they had writing the games before, and they immediately all became generic slop story and character wise. as for the gameplay the games had trended way that since the very start, it was just a gradual process but the Future games are the obvious endpoint of the franchise after UYA and Deadlocked mechanically.
I like it a lot but it was my first ratchet and the clanker game
>>738360948R&C was a gem and they needed a legitimate series to pioneer their new shit. I enjoy the game (not nearly as much as the PS2 games) but most of the points you make are pretty reasonable. The characters never really shut up which takes away from the atmosphere. They still had the OG music creator so that helps it a lot for me even though the new songs don't hit quite the same. Ratchet has more of a personality and while I am tired of the Lombax plot, the fact he shows some edge at times makes him still feel like the original character. The game just tried to do too much but I doubt it the developers fault entirely, although reusing the Glider from GC and acting like was some impressive, mystical tech was hilarious to me. I know Clank didn't have it anymore, but just reusing the asset like that was pretty lazy.It does make sense they got a little more serious though. Deadlocked was pushing the edginess already, albeit in the right way.
>>738338416I only ever cared for the first game.
>>738338528based optimist
>>738338416It's boring and feels giga-short
>>738338416All edge was been removed from it. It's like watching HR-approved Ratchet & Clank
>>738363134>>738361341Holy shit man they removed everything that made him cool, whats worst is that Angela and Sasha will never come back.
>>738361341ratchet put on shoes IN Ratchet and Clank 1, and a shirt in going commando and nobody cared
>>738338706is the problem literally none of them after this being good?
>>738367165>Grind BOOTS>optional to have showing regardless>armor plating>same thing as shirt>not mentioning the lame armor sets they gave him for ToDThey ruined his look. He looks alright in ACiT but still not as cool as PS2 era.
>>738369048>armor platingman he's just wearing a jumpsuit at the start of GC, you upgrade into the armor later. the space armor does get much lamer in the later games though, with the armor in the demake being particularly horrible. I think the bigger problem is that they dialed back Ratchet's range of facial expressions, so he kind of always defaults to "cuddly little nice guy" in the later games when PS2 ratchet could pull a wider range of expressions that ranged from unhinged to goofy.
