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>is the most popular fate girl by a large margin
>doesn't even have her own route
How did she do it?
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>best girl doesn't have a route
Welcome to Japan, newfag.
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Japan is full of pedos, big fucking mystery why they would goon over the only underage girl in the game.
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>>738339695
>he is unaware
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>>738339904
But he just displayed he was aware...
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>is the most popular fate girl
last I checked that was Artoria
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>>738339352
hebe buds
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>>738339352
I thought it was Saber that was the most popular
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>>738339695
She's the MC's older sister.
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>>738339695
I wonder if Japan has local Epstein doing weird eugenics experiments with eastern european girls. Or is it a jewish privilege?
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Here from a few years back
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>>738339352
>>is the most popular fate girl by a large margin
Why do autists always struggle to understand that just because something is THEIR favorite that doesn't automatically make it everyone else's favorite?

Note: If you respond to this post to tell me "Art count on 1 site doesn't matter!" yet offer no alternative metric to base your view on, you automatically admit I'm right.
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>>738340682
Saber has inflated fanart count because of her different versions. It unironically isn't an indication of anything. And just because Nasu decided to whore out Saber's design that doesn't mean she was ever more popular than Illya, Saber is just more marketable in a general sense.
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>>738339352
Is there a good pseudo route or fanfic or something with her? I don't care about Primsa Illya.
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>>738340682
Art count doesn't matter because I've fapped to Illya three times per day for 15 years.
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>>738340921
Just plug some Fate Stay/Night into Chatgpt and tell it to give you an Illya route
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>>738340921
Wait 10..maybe 20 more years then do what anon >>738341024 suggested with some high powered model.
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>>738340881
There's 2 instances of Saber listed there m8, and even the lower 1 which doesn't include all the variations that have been added over the course of the franchise is still almost twice Illyas count.

And every fucking fate character has a minimum of one "Alternate version of themselves from another timeline/universe that's technically still them but technically also not them". Illya from FSN and Illya from Prisma are pretty much completely different people yet still counted collectively, but I don't see you rushing to point that out for her like you did Saber for some reason.

And of course you did exactly what I said you would, criticized the metric I chose to measure the characters popularity yet offer no alternative of your own because you already know there aren't any that would actually support you.
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>>738341024
I'd rather hit myself with a hammer and hallucinate an illya route.

>>738341142
Kind of amazing it hasn't happened. Katawa Shoujo has a number of fan made routes for some of the scrapped girls (even if most are just text fanfics) i would've expected fate to have one. ah well.
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>>738339352
I think she has a shitty anime
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>>738340682
Rin also has more art posted onto your irrelevant site. Do you REALLY think she's more popular than Illya?
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>best girl's game miraculously gets a remake
>still no route for her
Maybe in another 20 years.
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>>738342872
>Do you REALLY think she's more popular than Illya?

Yes. Why shouldn't I? Have you presented any proof otherwise?
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>>738343182
Ah okay, you're trolling. I just wanted to confirm.
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>>738343378
>your proof is wrong and doesn't count!
>no it doesn't matter that I don't have any proof of my own, YOUR doesn't count because I say it doesn't so I WIN!!!

Ok spergo. You can go ahead and seethe at this proof too.
>>738340593
I know you were probably just ignoring it because it made you angry but now there can be no feigning ignorance about it.
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>>738343148
They confirmed her route will be in red garden, you fucking dummyzuka
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>>738343148
Not like this Sacchinbros...
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>>738340593
This
OP is a retard AND a pedophile
Your parents would be ashamed if they knew
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>>738340593
>2 sabers
>3! archers
WTF is this shit.
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Fate UBW (Ufotable) was the best Fate adaptation we will ever get.
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>>738339695
Where's Japan's pedo ring though?
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>>738345221
For me it's Lerche.
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>>738339352
navel cumshot
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>>738344010
Yeah, and when is Red Garden releasing again?
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>>738339352
The true shock is that there are virtually no yuri doujins with her and her twin. I've never been so disappointed in Japan.
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>>738340593
She's 17? Yuck, I'm out.
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I am gar for Archer
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>>738342872
>[one of the most popular type-moon characters of all time] also has more art posted onto your irrelevant site. Do you REALLY think she's more popular than Illya?
yes? is this a trick question or something
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>>738346379
?
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>>738346772
Like was already said, autistic people struggle to understand that just because they have an opinion, that everyone else doesn't also have the same opinion.

Illya is that anons favorite girl, therefore in his worldview she MUST also be the most popular girl for everyone else too.
When confronted with evidence to the contrary, instead of realizing his mistakes he reacts with anger and lashes out incoherently at anyone and anything that is hurting his feelings by not agreeing with him, and will no doubt leave the thread still completely convinced he was right and won the argument.
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>>738340473
They had cases like that and the jews were always involved
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>>738346054
Japanese h-artists and mangaka seem to occasionally pick the weirdest times to not fucking give a shit about a character.
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>>738339352
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>>738346054
Snowbunny and Prillya? Yeah, that is a crime.
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>>738346379
>20yo meme
Now that's dank!
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>>738346379
oldfag spotted
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>>738339352
>Best girl by far
>Barely in the game
Fuck nasu
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>>738339352
>doesn't even have her own route
I mean she DID until Nasu cut it like a faggot. Supposedly it would have shown how Archer became a Counter Guardian. I'm still really fucking mad about it.
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>>738339352
The power of cup threesomes
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>>738349648
which cups?
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>>738339352
She has her own manga instead, which is probably the best thing to come out of fate since fsn.
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>>738346014
Hopefully before Nasu kicks the bucket.
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>>738340593
>lost to Iskandar
>lost to Sakura
>lost to Alice
>lost to Nero
>lost to Waver
>lost to Akiha
KEK
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>>738339352
That's because she's cute and funny, Her two friends helped a lot too.
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>>738339352
My guess is
>UOOOOOOHHHH CHILD TUMMY EROTIC
>BUDDING CHILD ITTYBITTIES EROTIC
>CHILD SEX UOOOOOOOHHHHH
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>>738339352
>doesn't even have her own route
that just means whatever fans daydreamed up would likely be better than what would of been the canon route.
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>>738345221
Jesus the stark difference between those bottom 2 and the rest. What happened? They look like complete shit compared to the top ones for some reason even though they should be newer.
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>>738345221
>Bottom right
Looks like Clavicular.
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>>738355974
They look like they belong to two different scenes stitched together the top 3 have equal visibility so they look like a pair.
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>>738347334
source or you are full of shit
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Illya is the qveen.
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Man I wish there was more porn of Taiga. Fuji-nee is so erotic.
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>>738339695
>only underage girl
Reminder that Saber stopped growing when she was 15. Which also includes her brain if you're one of those brain doesn't mature until xx years guy. Illya, being 18, is physically and mentally older than Saber.
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>>738339352
The popular version of her is Prillya which is a totally different character.

She's probably less popular than any of the main 3 FSN girls.
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>>738358789
>Saber stopped growing when she was 15
I laughed my ass off when they had to explain that in the VN.
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>>738339352
Women are supposed to have body tpes like contortionists, gymnasts, dancers, cheerleaders, and ballerinas and I am sick to death of pretending they're not!
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>>738358932
Chloe is just her stay night side made hypersexual.
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stay night illya is hotter than kaleid and i'm tired of pretending otherwise
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>>738358932
Yeah this

Prillya is the one that gets endless collabs and merch
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>>738359240
kaleid Illya is just moefied version the original design.
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>>738359568
Uhhhhhh.....
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>>738359568
I love the official tenga collab they did
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for me its Illya and Taiga
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>>738359568
>tenga
Dogshit quality product. Basically japanese fleshlights. Get a real proper onahole from a nonshit brand.
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>>738359568
I could use his box with it for fap material without the need to search for anything else, especially the side...
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>>738346379
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsWMjLWP5eE
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>>738360945
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>>738361005
sexo
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>>738360945
>that chub around the thigh highs
Its time to go on a diet chubby chubster.
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>>738361367
But thats the only place theres any fat at all,,,
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I almost posted like 3 pics that would have got me into trouble.
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>>738361794
Its hard when theres so much saved up from all the cups threads when they were more prevalent
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>>738362147
I check for new Illya stuff pretty frequently still. Unironically my waifu, and although I obviously prefer her FSN version I love every iteration of her because she's perfection.
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>>738361794
Lucky for me it's generally images that are still sfw that I find the most fap worthy
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>>738363080
King shit, anon.
For me, it's self inserting during all of the bad-ends and shooting off so much splooge that I've been permanently mind broken.
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>>738339352
>>is the most popular fate girl by a large margin
Not even close.
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>>738363171
That's pretty cool if the bad ends are enough to get you sploogin' out. You're a higher level Illya appreciator than me, even if I've certain lost lots of loads to her too.
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I love Fujimura Taiga.
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>>738339352
She's 18
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>>738364075
That's why prisma is more popular, yes.
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>>738363781
I'm an obsessive freak, yeah. But if you're someone who likes her and has pumped your dick plenty of times to Illya then you're a cool guy in my book!
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>>738339352
Saber is the most popular fate girl, showing why Japan taste is fucking shit.
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>>738339352
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>>738365384
Yes.
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Illya is relaxing.
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>>738364000
How would a Taiga route go?
Shirou gives up on magic and settles for normal life with his Fuji-nee wife?
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>>738366182
Mexican drug lord route where she somehow ends up as her jaguarman version.
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>>738360769
I always loved having these two talk at me. Made me feel included, and that's worth sacrificing Shirou to dozens of horrible deaths
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>>738364215
If that's all it takes, you could say I'm doing a pretty good job of being a cool guy right now.
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What we know about Illya's route

>Nasu confirmed that Ilya's bird familiars were from the draft

>Nasu: If it's at the land that houses the Holy Grail, then Ilya is indeed that strong. And being able to make a familiar from her hair was in the original draft. The work this time around was especially hard, so I ended up using an "Iri's replacement" approach. By the way, the name of the technique is Elfen Lied [German for Elves' Song, 天使の詩 - Angel's Poem]. The bird's name is Storch Fieseler [German term for a type of plane].

>Takeuchi confirmed that Shirou would have a sex scene with Leysritt and Sella

>At the initial concept stage, the only details we had hammered down about these two maids were their names, their general roles (powerhouse/teacher) and which one would become Illya's Dress of Heaven. We only expanded on these characters when we decided to go ahead with "hollow". Normal homonculi are mostly emotionless like Leysritt, so that illustrates what a unique case Illya is. Leysritt was created as a sample of Illya, and Sella was allowed to live only because she was useful as Illya's tutor. That's about the extent of the specifics we initially had for these characters. When I started writing Sella's part in "hollow", however, she quickly became one of my favourite characters. I like Leysritt too, of course. By the way, I think Sella is the only real tsundere character in "Fate". (laughs)

>Shirou losing his arm protecting Ilya, the two shopping and her singing, BRING ILLYA BACK, and Nine Lives Revolver were also planned for Illya's route

>Shirou was going to drop his ideal to make amends for Kiritsugu's sins in Illya's route, while the Sakura route focuses on him breaking free of Kiritsugu and becoming his own person. Also, Rin was likely going to become a villain after killing Sakura and going mad in the Illya route to complete the pattern of how each heroine is a villain in some route

>Zouken was the final boss
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>>738367851
Nice! Here you go, just 'cause I wanna encourage cool behavior.
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>>738367898
Can someone make a time machine please?
Someone smarter than me, but nearby and not smart enough to forsee my break-in so I can go and somehow convince Nasu to finish the Illya route?
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>>738367898
Fate was always supposed to be two VNs with two halves of the full story like Tsukihime + Red Garden and Fate/EXTRA + Fate/EXTRA CCC

>Fate/stay night
Saber Route
Rin Route

>Fate/other night
Illya Route
Sakura Route

They have completely different outcomes for Shirou.

Fate/other night was scrapped and became Heaven's Feel Route. Nasu has also stated in many interviews that he still has the draft for Ilya's route, and many ideas were repurposed for Fate/zero and Fate/hollow ataraxia. Nasu also the one who gave Irisviel and Illya the bird familiars and blades in the UBW anime, which were also supposed to in Illya's route.
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>>738367851
Damn... I find Taiga attractive now. I feel actually old.
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>>738344010
>all-ages kusoge
lol
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>>738360769
I liked them in CP
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I found an ebora thread on /b/
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>>738369263
I have ebora fatigue
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fate is the only game / vn i've dropped significantly far into (~80 hours). i almost admire anyone who could suffer the writing and continue onto hollow ataraxia.
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>>738347215
I understand that everyone has different opinions
I just know that most of them are wrong
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>>738358789
>Saber stopped growing when she was 15
Yes, and? Quite a few girls stop growing at 15
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>>738371563
I had more fun with hollow ataraxia even if its mostly fluff intermixed with a character desperately trying to circumvent their own death.
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>>738340129
>hebe
She's literally older than the MC in that series
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>>738359568
>"DISCREET PACKAGING"
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>>738372427
>I had more fun with hollow ataraxia
the little i've seen of it seems appealing, especially with regard to rider. if anything, i think shirou himself is the most poisonous aspect of fate for me. it would have been more interesting if fate/stay night followed rin, for me at least.
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>>738339352

>>doesn't even have her own route
this is one of the reasons why Ayakashi was more based, there's a route for the evil little girl and you fuck her
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>>738359568
Is Illya cunny really THAT good?
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>>738373987
>it would have been more interesting if fate/stay night followed rin
The fate prototype was kinda like that but saber was still male.
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>>738340682
Seiba has 25k images on Pixiv, Rin has 19k, and Illya's got 15k, if that helps prove your point
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>>738346379
We all are
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>>738359568
I went to a Don Quijote the other day and they just have a tenga section out in the open, not behind a door or a curtain, just right next to all the beauty products and the winter clothes. Saw a couple of middle schoolers walking around the shelves just checking out the onaholes. Was pretty sweet
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>>738366182
>man, screw the holy grail war, I just wanna fuck my sister in law, and grill
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>>738376269
They sell them at any fucking pharmacy, including the medicine section at super markets
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>>738377904
Damn, japan is pretty rad. Why can't we have this in America
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>>738340593
redGOD…
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>>738359568
tenga is overrated shit
now if they collabed with magic eyes
cool packaging either way
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>>738378527
>magic eyes
I had one of those. It started to tear after a month. Guess my dick was too girthy for it.
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>>738377953
You will take your sexually-repressed christfag feminism, and you will enjoy it
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>>738383175
Fuck off beggar
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Prisma Illya is the better Illya
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>>738386220
>not liking both
faggot
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>>738386220
I like both the sweet and innocent Illya and the assertive and more dommy Illya
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>>738340593
IIRC this was held right after Mahoyo dropped which was like a year after the F/Z anime aired, correct me if I'm wrong.
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>>738389671
Correct. It was TYPE-MOON FES. 2-day festival held by TYPE-MOON back in July 7th and 8th, 2012 at the Pacifico Yokohama Convention Center
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>>738340593
>few years back
Understatement
That polls older than half the posters on this site
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>>738389671
>>738389749
Right, thanks for confirming. So Mahoyo had just dropped in April 2012 and F/Z's final episode actually aired in June 2012, so that'd explain why Iskander, Aoko, Alice, Kerry, et al are ranked so high. Not to say they aren't deserving of those spots but it's probably a little skewed from the timing.
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>>738339352
She has her own comic book which is now a bigger and longer story than any other Fate thing besides FGO.
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Nasu is eternally a hack until he releases her route
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>>738359568
>south american artist that LARPs as japanese on twatter created this fanart but made it full of ads for a shitty product
why though
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>>738392759
even if she did it would be a far cry from the original vn. nasu would find a way to insert some fgo characters and there won't be any nsfw.
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>>738391437
Prillya is not Illya. None of the cups are.
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>>738386557
I like both but the original Illya is definitely orders of magnitude better. She's graceful but also naughty is a sensible way.
Prillya is a moeblob lolibitch. Which is fine. I definitely don't dislike it but Illya is actual waifu material while Prillya is mostly just for sex. And Chloe is better at that.
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>>738393603
>but the original Illya is definitely orders of magnitude better
She's a better character but Prillya and friends make me painfully hard. Prillya's happy slice of life moments are nice too.
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>>738394283
11-years old...
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>Moonlit Archives: A Digital Archive of Historical TYPE-MOON Works
https://moonlitarchives.com/static/games/
>Type-Moon Visual Novel Collection (Japanese)
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tyCb9CZR_bh6ZyvK8N1v3HU0GhG6aTZe

>Mahoutsukai no Yoru - Witch on the Holy Night
Mahoutsukai no Yoru
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2052410/WITCH_ON_THE_HOLY_NIGHT/
An Adventure of First Love (Mahoutsukai no Yoru Short Story)
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/An-Adventure-of-First-Love.html
Witch on the Holy Night Material
https://tri-hermes.org/Materials/The_Magicians_Basic_Rhythm.html

>Kara no Kyoukai (1998)
Kara no Kyoukai Novels (English)
https://nyaa.si/view/1916622
Kara no Kyoukai Anime
https://nyaa.si/view/1828314
Kara no Kyoukai Manga
https://nyaa.si/view/2090783

>Tsukihime (2000)
Tsukihime Complete Pack
https://www.readtsukihi.me/downloads
Tsukihime Manga
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1cC2cl1r46qDxKLQ6SJ2ss2V0JS8ihlpn
Tsukihime Plus Period - Talk
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/talk.html
Tsukihime II Prelude
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/prelude.html

>Fate (2004)
Fate/stay night REMASTERED
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2396980/Fatestay_night_REMASTERED/
Fate/hollow ataraxia REMASTERED
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2396990/Fatehollow_ataraxia_REMASTERED/
Garden of Avalon
https://tri-hermes.org/Novels/GoA.html
Fate/strange Fake
https://humbertozero.tumblr.com/post/771492010917019648/how-to-read-fatestrange-fake-light-novel
Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya
https://nyaa.si/view/1976278
Fate Music Collection
https://nyaa.si/view/1834594
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>in pretty much every route in every single way
>prisma is her "route" and it has more merchandising, collaborations, manga/anime than most individual routes/fate entries
>due to the einzbern fuckery she's kind of just a lookalike of the other einzbern girls we've seen already too
There, I answered
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>>738394627
Can we skip to 4ier already so we can get cute Pandora x Illya x Miyu x Kuro shenanigans? I wanna see Tatsuko fucking launch herself at Pandora and try eating her hair.
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>>738394259
I never cared about Miyu until this dropped. She's now my favourite cup. Just looking at her drives me feral.
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>>738395489
>summer swimsuit
Looks more like a springtime ballet outfit or something. Wait, Swan Lake is more of a wintery play.
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>>738339352
>is the most popular fate girl by a large margin
Is this Saber? I only know Saber
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>>738339352
That's a 12 year old boy though?
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Is brown Illya simply the better Illya?
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>>738396426
I never actually ever bothered to watch/read it but people say she's supposed to be fate illya? In which yeah she is.
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>>738360945
>>738361005
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>>738396531
Brown is the closest to proper illya, but still far removed from her and not the same character.
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>>738396602
What's the appeal of trashy poorly drawn fanart?
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>>738396426
>>738396531
From wiki
>Kuro is generally much calmer and more nonchalant than Illya. She is devious and manipulative, picking up on subtleties about people and using them to her advantage, and she can be very brazen and unrestrained in her actions.
In the show the brazen and unrestrained actions are molesting Miyu and Illya and she usually makes fun of Illya for being childish.
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>>738397020
That one had armpits
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>tfw no prisma illya game that's just an ecchi fanservice game with little substance
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>>738397020
the gooner has no discerning eye for he is a gooner.
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>>738364000
I always loved her voice too bad she doesn’t have too much work, her only other big role is android 18 which is also cool
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>>738397020
better than your aislop
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>>738397020
So you can continue asking your question in fate threads for the 4th year
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>>738395489
Her mahjong art is obscene
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>>738398165
You realize documenting him calling out shit fanart is infinitely more schizo behaviour than what he is doing, right?
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>>738398165
This site really is just like half bots at this point
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>>738400401
What documenting? I just noticed someone saying the same/similar phrase over time in similar threads, searched for it on arch and screenshoted it. Took 2 minutes. You couldve said Im pathetic for actually being in so many offtopic pornspam threads I actually noticed.
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>>738339352
I'm planning to get into OG VNs soon, starting with FSN, but I don't really like how most of those VNs are fucking eroges, reading smut is really weird to me. How do you deal with this, anons? Except for jacking off to it each time, of course.
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>>738401173
If you're really that much of a fag then play the Realta Nua version without the ero patch.
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>>738401257
I have the remastered steam version, I thought this was the one based on Realta Nua in the first place. I was just curious how people deal with it in general.
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>>738396426
>>738397246
Nah. I like them for different reasons.
For how much anons call her a slut I believe Chloe is a good girl at heart.
She seems like the type to get shy when someone else is showing her affection.
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you just had to go and ruin the thread you fucking nigger
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Why aren't there more non-gachashit crossover DLC featuring the cups? I wanna see Illya/Kuro/Miyu cosplay outfits for other cunny protagonists in vidya. Imagine Prisma Lucy DLC for Chrono Ark or something.
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Evergreen
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>>738401941
you know why.
chloe in a swimsuit made redditors' heads explode and you think they would ever put them in actual games?
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>>738402119
I believe Asian devs are based enough to not care about reddit. Lucy's just one edit away from a sexy bikini anyway.
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>>738401398
Memes.
>Tohsaka's anus
>MOLLUSKS
Poorly written smut is a great time.
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>>738402247
the only devs that can afford to not care are gacha who are already whoring out lolis anyway.
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>>738339352
not even the most popular girl in her own show
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>>738403206
chloe pantsu
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Here's your Illya game, it's probably not very good.
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>>738401548
Underneath she is sweet and caring of her friends (even above the fate of the world). Shes lewd to cause mischief after she notices you being susceptible to her charm.
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>>738401941
>>738402119
Even Ushiwaka got giga-raped by censorship in Type Lumina.
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What would you guys even want from a Prillya game? Or alternatively a loli servant only game.
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God, I love video games
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>>738404369
me too
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>>738404148
Any type of action/hack and slash game would do to be desu. Hell, just having the cups featured in a new Fate/Extella game would be nice.
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>>738404148
How much of prillya has not been made into anime yet? Will we ever see berserker Illya animated?
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kuro...my beloved...
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>>738406103
uhh why is he naked
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>>738406158
How else are you going to do a naked dogeza?
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>>738406232
I see
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FLATFLATFLATFLATFLATFLATFLATFLATFLATFLATFLATFLATFLATFLATFLATFLATFLATFLAT
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>>738339695
Yea, it's pretty fucked up to see Ilya take advantage of her younger brother like that.
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>>738339352
No thanks, I prefer mature adult women.
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>>738407821
Way too muscular for my taste.
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>>738339695
There is nothing wrong with enjoying 2D.
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>>738407821
Her muscular form is hard to look at
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>>738404625
Wasn't Mantis-x making a illya fangame?
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>>738407821
>4 years older than the cups
Too old
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>>738406497
I want Kuro's holy water
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>>738406103
Illya can't even win in her own series.
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>>738346379
I miss nrvqr.com (aka Beast's Lair) I still prefer old forums to 4chan in general, but they're all dead now so... yea.
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brown butt
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Jannies are too busy jerking off on what you're all sending to do anything about this thread lmao
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>>738345221
>top left version
Eh, I just noticed that Heracles originally looked like he had a segmented exoskeleton like a stag beetle. Pretty cool.
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>>738339352
>is the most popular fate girl by a large margin
That’s Saber
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>>738410061
Caramel flavoured
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>>738414656
Or maybe cinnamon...
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>>738339352
>As the thread dies it turns brown
Lmao
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>>738404479
Miyu is so cute
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