was FFXIV 1.0 really better than ARR?
no, lol
>>738347080No but it had better ideas and would have been better if they'd been able to actually develop it.
>>7383470801.0? No, 1.23 is when the game was much better. Story of 1.0 will forever be SE being greedy and forcing the team to release the game early causing it to flop and remade into 2.0.
Bring back TPBring back TP and MP support Make MP pressure on healers a real thing again
>>738347916healers have MP pressure in actual content
>>738347080It did some things better. The cutscenes were way better, on par with the single player FFs. The sound design was better. World areas felt more alive because they had stuff moving around in them, airships flying around, etc. Dungeons were actually dungeons and not straight lines. Items and spell elements actually mattered and were useful.The problem is the actual gameplay and UI were half-baked and everyone hated it.
>>738347080No, not at all>>738347794If they could have restarted with today's knowledge/technology perhaps. Back then? No.>>738347916>Bring back TPPlease bring your retardation elsewhere
>>738348026Not true just spam lucid
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--LOYdzogDA
>>738347916Back in the day if astro gave monk spire which reduced GCD they'd run out of TP
>>738347080I would play a 1.23 classic server and enjoy it but that sort of game would in no way be as financially successful as what XIV has become, even with all the issues ironed out.
>>738347916Okay, the game is now difficult againBut the player base doesn't change and you still get banned for being rude
>>738348182>The cutscenes were way better*only a fraction of the cutscenes
TP/MP is pointless in a system where skills have cooldowns and synergies preventing spamming
>>738348468All the cutscenes, there were just fewer cutscenes overall.
>>738348235lmaobrutally obliterated
>>738348235>omg where do I go where is the yellow paintchrist I hate gamers
>>738348538most cutscenes were basic as fuck, anon
>>738348819They weren't. The only cutscenes were MSQ and class quests, both of which had good, dynamic cinematography in them. They're far and above the 3/4 view talking heads cutscenes in ARR.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvsYvBqY5msThe cutscenes were better
>>738348994Most of them had basic animations
>>738349052Basic animations with actual cinematography, yeah. You don't need motion capture to make cutscenes look good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxsqTso8eGQ
LOOK AT WHAT YOSHIDA TOOK AWAY FROM YOU
>>738348994MSQ had like 7 fully voiced cutscenes (not including the ones from the other city-states), and there were only 3 class quests each.Most things were unvoiced, and in addition your character did nothing in the cinematics or in the story at all. You literally are a beta bitch until Yoshi-P came and brought Louisoix to get you to do things.
>>738349174Voices don't make a cutscene good.
>>738347080if you like the Everquest/Final Fantasy XI mmo design? yes. if you like the World of Warcraft mmo design? no.it's honestly that simple and personally? I actually like the FFXI/EQ mmo design.
>>738347080I can’t FUCKING believe they wrote that in that quest. Im totally seeing red right now. I can’t stop FUCKING SCREAMING. HOW FUCKING DARE THEY? I punched a hole in my wall, im so upset. They better pay for the repair.
>>738349157I do hope they at some point update older zones, having the cities be one area shouldn't be a problem these days at the very least
>>738349157wish they'd go back and combine all of the old cities into a single map
>>738349157I don't think Yoshida was the one who promised ps3 support but I could be wrong
>>738349012Even while the game was crashing and burning, SE could still put out great CGI cutscenes.
>>738347080No, it was flawed. But it had the potential to be.XI was better than ARR. All SE had to do was copy XI. If you go solely off of visuals and vibes it looks like they did for XIV 1.0, but the game is really nothing like XI
Oh hey, the "acksually 1.0 was better" topics are back.Ask me anything, I've been there from the beginning. I'm just kinda chilling atm, next big fish in early tomorrow morning.
>>738347080https://youtu.be/CJ9CmxaQ3q8?t=433https://youtu.be/CJ9CmxaQ3q8?t=463xiv 1.0 fags are all either retarded copers or equally retarded larpers who should be shot from a cannon. to dignify them in any way is to waste your time
>>738349449explain the biggest issues with 1.0and how many of them were fixed by the time ARR rolled around (1.23?)
>>738349449Back me up here Jazzy >>738349127
>>738349449I've yet to try any of the 7.5 fish, how bad are they?
>>738349449>Oh hey, the "acksually 1.0 was better" topics are back.That's how you can tell the Evercold hype cycle has dragged back the most obnoxious attentionwhoring losers who desperately want a piece of the attention pie.
>>738347080It was an entirely different game, with much less content than the game needed. The MSQ was very spaced out, you weren't just doing the MSQ all the way from 1-50, you'd go level up a few times, get a few quests you could do by yourself, and then go back and level up again - how the modern class quests are handled was basically how the MSQ was handled. All leveling was pretty much done in a group at a few popular leveling spots within level brackets, and you'd have one player constantly pulling enemies in so you could keep your exp. bonus chain pumping - it was very FFXI in pacing - quests were a reward for continue to play and leveling your character, not the primary form of play.>>738348819This is true but the animations they had to work with had more blending, the camera was less static as well. Overall they were far better put together than everything up to say Endwalker. I think they have actually gotten way better with their scene composition now, but it took a long time to catch up. Also they did have to make far fucking less of them than they have to in modern XIV so there's that too.
>>738349427I thought he did. It was part of fulfilling the promise of the original FFXIV which planned to launch on the PS3. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puOiYZE7B1w
>>738349448Dude xi is fucking trash just like every mmo that isn’t a warcraft or diablo clone. They literally just ruin the good combat system, and retards praise it for being unique. Its a completely boring way to play a game.
>>738349427>>738349642He didn't make the promise but he did promise to make good on the original promise that he wasn't responsible for.
>>738349657OK lil zoom zoom
Alright, when are we getting FFXIV ARR Classic? I'm trying to run around and do fates with a huge group again, MAYBE do Bahamut.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNm-t9eWSvAdat ain't no... FO' OUTTA FIVEDAT'S A... FO' OUTTA TEN
>>738349157the game being full of separate instances cut apart by loading screens is the biggest reason why I don't play. there is no world, its just a bunch of lobbies and I hate the feeling so much. It makes it too much like a video game and kills my immersion in any MMO, like no my friend is not just outside the city, hes in another instance in a different plane of existence. He doesn't exist on my map, he doesn't exist in the world I'm in, hes in a different one I have to load into.
>>738347080the 1.0 beta was legitimately the worst MMO experience I have ever had
The game was unfinished. On a technical level it ran like shit on most PCs, you can see where they cut corners on zones. This is why the game has a terrible launch, these problems were really badThe soundtrack was way better though, as waa the weight of the player character in their movement and animations.
>>738349747Sounds like a decent gw2 classic server clone. World boss train was scrapped for being ugly and retarded content. Was like somewhat fun imo actually that was like somewhat new at the time, I guess that’s like a very old gameplay mechanic now….
>>738349612Nobody sane that has played it will say 1.0 was better, apart from some very minuscule things like a few cut-scenes here and there and some graphical details (that had some serious drawbacks at the time). What they miss are moments in time and the promise of something better, not really the game (This is true for most people with nostalgia).
>>738349845thancred was so much cooler before he got ptsd and became a dad
>>738347080They made a shitty not-even-a-quarter-baked game so that they could horndog over putting in overwanked cutscenes that couldn't even run on most normal PCs at the time.
>>738349430People who love anime games and franchises want those anime cutscenes. (cgi)
>>738347080No, and only absolute contrarians will tell you otherwise. 1.0 bombed for a reason.
>>738349845My nigga Thancred getting all the bitchesWhatever happened to those Lala twins or whatever? Did they even show up in ARR? I genuinely don't remember
>>738350080They show up in the ALC quests.
>>738347916>bring back TP
can't wait for the /v/ narrative that 'uhm, this shitty failed launch was epic, actually?'
>>738349993Most people are
>>738349972>What they miss are moments in time and the promise of something better, not really the gameWildstar syndrome.
>>738349967Damn, now that you mention it, I suppose I just like blob content. I loved doing karma trains in gw2 and LOVED doing big blobs in eternal battle grounds. Interesting. Yeah, Classic GW2 or FFXIV would cover it for me.
>>738350080iirc they show up in miners questlineI had a webm of them beating up a hyurr dude but lost it
>>738350206
>>738349747>Remember grinding out fates at Coerthas Central Highlands because everyone on the server was there because of the FF13 crossover eventMan those were certainly the days.
Uematsu cooked harder than Soken.https://youtu.be/6ufS7LaYVC8?si=eG-p8nWmdnlvpwzuhttps://youtu.be/nwYhTKKjlfA?si=ewIR_y96HP-rm2njhttps://youtu.be/FAJ6xdmS_Xo?si=wsuVKl9w_qR6x3J1
>>738347080no but FFXI > FFXIV
>>738347080it was dogshit and anyone telling you it was good is a retard. there's a reason it was universally panned with an overall score of 4.0/10. When's the last time you saw something rated that low?
>>738350240what's with the ungodly glare for this version of the game
>>738349562The thing is, 1.0 focused too hard on "ultra realistic motion capture" for literally everything. It looks nice for casual talking and such and some cutscenes to feel grounded, but the full action ones were so few.>>7383495511.0's only content on launch was a sparsely paced out MSQ, Levequests (with the daily limit), and Behests (think of it like a proto-FATE at aethertyes). Crafting was a mess that wasn't thought out (components being 20 levels higher to craft than the items they were used for). And their idea of 'you can be even DoH/DoL for MSQ" means that your character literally does nothing.Oh, and the main story was a bit weird with how it portrayed the Echo, (You) were unconsciously using it and reliving stuff from like 10 years prior, so what little you thought you did, you didn't even do.Oh yeah, I just remembered that originally leveling classes was done by skill points, doing the action. So the meta strat was everyone finding high HP mobs (salamanders in Shroud IIRC) and doing as many actions as possible before killing it.I vaguely remember there being a situation of people figuring out how to power level Conjurer to 40+ in the first few days, that the 1.0 devs actually rolled it back, and threatened to suspend anybody that didn't fess up and admit they did it before they rolled everyone back. I can't find records of this though, and would like confirmation about that.>>738349602Only Iron Oxy has a long cooldown (12 days atm), but when it's in rotation it happens a lot back to back. Carbuncle Plushy hasn't updated yet so I did my own spreadsheet (hopefully it's right, I'll see tomorrow).
>>738350080>>738350206I do believe they show up in The sunken temple of Qarn Hard mode where you've got to find their sister, it's been more than a decade so the details allude me
>>738349012the mocapping in the cutscenes looks really goodEven the player character just walking
Yeah, you can focus on neat and pretty cutscenes with mocap when you1. have nothing else to work on and no other content2. don't care if the pretty shiny cutscene you're making doesn't actually work on the personal computers of a vast majority of the players
>>738347080Outside of all the copy paste and the stupid menu system. Yes.
>>738350404Great, doesn't seem too bad. Glad I've managed to catch everything before this patch, would hate to have to hunt Purse any longer
>>738350404>I vaguely remember there being a situation of people figuring out how to power level Conjurer to 40+ in the first few days, that the 1.0 devs actually rolled it back, and threatened to suspend anybody that didn't fess up and admit they did it before they rolled everyone back. I can't find records of this though, and would like confirmation about that.Okay I love Grok. I just asked it to crawl things from 2010 and it found people talking about it.
>have to bitch about modern XIV and its director (YoshiP)>but the only versions of XIV 1.0 one can in good faith call remotely playable are the ones that were patched in after YoshiP took controlBeing a 1.0 shill is honestly a humiliation ritual.
>>738350776And yet for all the shit Tanaka got with 1.0 he created XI, an MMO that XIV could never hope to match especially during the 75 era.
>>738350836Makes it all the more confusing he went from a good game to actual steaming feces
>>738350836tanaka also had a team of people telling him things to do and not to do. but like all SE talent, they go full george lucas on their future games. Look at the hacks fucking up FF7 remake.
>>738350404>The thing is, 1.0 focused too hard on "ultra realistic motion capture" for literally everythingMo-cap really isn't a problem that people think it is. Everything is still mo-capped in ARR their animation system is just bad. You can mo-cap with a phone these days, like all the 3D porn artists at least use it for facial capture.>>738350776But my favorite part of the game was the 1.18+ era when the game design started to make sense.
>>738350865The answer simply is having way too much ambition.
XIV 1.0 is never returning. Good riddance.
>>738350953They dont mo cap shit in ARR, they use the same canned animations that are over 12 years old that mightve originally been mocapped, but they are not doing new mo cap for arr
>>738350953I'd be very surprised if they did mocap for modern XIV, the animations are horrid if they are using mocap.
>>738351010I guess if he had the ambition to make a game with a worse foundation than its immediate predecessor, and repeat FF12's mistake of replacing traditional jobs with functional equivalents
>>738350594It's kinda weird to me how 1.0 Y'shtola was basically a jedi. Magic hasn't been shown to work that way since. Nor has Y'shtola ever been shown doing super jumps and backflips since.
>>738351031Not for ARR, but definitely for DT and I think a handful of ShB and EW scenes.
>>738350982Best MMO ever made and even though it's an EQ clone at heart, there never has been and never will be a game like it
god damn minfilia is so fuckable it's unreal
>>738350603And the lagthe low amount of items and characters viewable at the same timethe horrible delays when doing things and slugish movementthe poorly made combat systemthe poorly made teleport systemthe poorly made dungeonsthe poorly made combat encountersthe poorly made lighting systemIt was all shit, people who say otherwise are idiots
>>738350728What a steaming pile of shit, lmao.
>>738347080Yes, that's why it almost bankrupted the company and they had to rebuild it from the ground up.
>>738351123
>>738351158No auto attacks at launch was BAFFLING
>>738351030https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQI4M8GGF1MHere's Yoshi-P recording the mo-cap for his Bard character. Literally everything is mo-capped.
>>738351225We seem to be going back to that. :^)
>>738350303kek saved
>>738351123You are now aware her clothing has an ass window because it's a hand-me-down from her miqo'te adoptive mother and that's a tail window
>>738351193>appeal to financial success fallacy
>>738351270Which makes sense for modern wow style mmos. But for the style of MMO 10 was trying to be it made no sense.
>>738351123>literally never noticed she has a nice ass crease until now because of her fuck huge skirt>devs still had the foresight to make an ass window so you could admire itholy...
>>738351123Seems she missed the age of rule 34 but somehow Yshtola got a ton of art
>>738347080better? no. of course not.more interesting though for sure but it was just like 10% of a game.even the way the world was raped and obliterated in preparation for 2.0 was way more interesting than anything that followed it.what sucks the most about FF14 is that they put all this effort into salvaging the game but then kinda gave up on improving it right after.
>>738347080/v/ would tell you so, but /v/ is also terminally contrarian so who really cares
>>738351352Guess who designed that outfit.
>>738351309
>>738351225Yeah, for that system it was really weird>>738351270Auto attacks are just dots these days, and with how active XIV is now it's not needed anymore. (dot fags can get fucked)
>>738351417Because most XIV fans are zoomers who didn't start playing XIV until she got written out of the story
>>738351123Number 1...or number 2.Number 1...number 2.1...2.
>>738351309>f'lhahminn is basically treated like a old hag>she's only 37I know thats ancient by anime years but fucking come on. the arcadion fighters are all like 16 as well.
>>738351486F'lhaminn putting on granny glasses is the funniest shit, she hasn't even hit menopause
>>738351123>>738351479i stopped playing in shadbringershas she came back yet
>>738347080Yes
>>738351479Left looks kinda basic.Right looks like the jovial bimbo who used to give me noisy head underneath the Waking Sands desk when the rest of the Scions left.
>>738351417Technically speaking, not only do you meet Y'shtola first but she's the one who actually accompanies you out in the field, and of course by now she's had 6 more expansions of accompanying us than Minfilia had.
>>738351486What the fuck, she's running around in grandma clothes and glasses.
Never ask a 1.0 cultist to post his gameplay or any cutscene besides the four that constantly get postedIt's just rude
>>738350303lalas stronk
>>738351486>>738351564She was a famous songstress so she hit the wall hard after all those late nights of drinking and snorting coke off of monetarist dicks.
>>738351534Not anymore than she did in Shadowbringers
>>738351590>I'm a zoomer and combat isnt good if it isnt flashy to keep my tiktok addled attention span happy
>>738347080didn't play so i can't tell
>>738351327It makes sense when you consider it in context of the franchise. It was an actual real time ATB system where different actions used more or less of the ATB gauge. Yeah you were just spamming attack but without it you would be spending a long time waiting for TP to accumulate. I'm not defending the system but I don't know how you can look at this and not be able to make sense of what they were going for. Knowing how retarded XIV players are if they had called the stamina gauge the "ATB Gauge" they would have been all over it.
>>738351564It's so weird to see people who never played 1.0 defend it
>>738351590>ff14>combat postedkekkaroo
>>738351158>And the lag>the low amount of items and characters viewable at the same time>the horrible delays when doing things and slugish movement>the poorly made combat system>the poorly made teleport system>the poorly made dungeons>the poorly made combat encounters>the poorly made lighting systemBut enough about Final Fantasy XIV: Dawntrail
>>738351450I'm still mad that RDM autos do 1 damage
>>738351698https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1U7IPnJ0cII forgot to actually post the link apparently
>>738351486>>738351517>F'hlaminn putting on granny clothes, thick round glasses and baking cookies for Hoary and Coultenet.>"F'hlaminn, you're fucking 37.">"I know, I'm just so ancient, but I'll try not to get in your way with my arthritis and hearing problems.">"F'hlaminn, you were doing resistance stuff not even half a decade ago.">"Ahhh, those were the times. To be young again..."She's got like the opposite case of Y'shtola pretending to be younger.
>>738351590>>738351710oops, wrong reply
>>738351309Cat butte eroi…
>>738351698No, it doesnt make sense, especially when they already had a very successful MMO where auto attacks were very important
>>738351710https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzLUASTdV5g
>>738351751Current XIV is not the best, but it's still a million times better than 1.0
>>738351781she's gonna steal arenvald's wheelchair next expac
>>738351653>i'm not like you young adhd whippersnappers>i prefer to be bored, to hate my time playing a game (piece of entertainment) and take pride in masochism
>>738350728Found the archive of the original Japanese post on Lodestone, not figuring out how to see the English version of Lodestone.https://web.archive.org/web/20101102113406/http://lodestone.finalfantasyxiv.com/pl/news/detail?newsId=11cf9675c6f054e0d49b7479eaf6e56cbef3dc7c
>>738351872man, WoW needs something like this
>>738351872Sad I missed the shutdown period due to work, gettng to see the ARR trailer was hype as fuck either way though
>>7383514791 who turns into 2 after a few babies
>>738351710I do wish they'd go back to un-crunch the outside world version/La Noscea version of Limsa Lominsa. And I think really all the cities. Crystarium too, preferably. They look... eh....
>>738347080No. Only graphics and animations were better. The rest is labubu.
>>738347080it was more "interesting", but it wasn't good. i remember when they added sastascha, or maybe it wasnt sastascha but it was like an open world cove dungeon. me and some other random guy wandered around for a couple hours. there was some kinda puzzle thing with lights we couldn't figure out, but i don't think there was really anything of note there. i got a cute hat, i think. that was about the whole game, empty caves and nothing of note to find. idk about the later patches when they added Ifrit and shit.
>>738347080I want to play FFXIV 1.0 just as a curiosity piece.I wish it was preserved somewhere so I could at least play around with it and form my own opinion. Its kinda depressing all we have to go on are 15 year old youtube videos from the 480p era.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQqYWGwFvXE
>Wonder why XI anons are coming into this thread>Remember Tanaka produced both XI and XIV 1.0>They are compelled to defend his honor
>>738351158I'm convinced that anyone who has nostalgia for 1.0 have either gaslit themselves into thinking it was good because they don't like current XIV that much, never actually played it, or are just trolling. The only positives it has are a handful of cutscenes that are fully animated, which the later expansions do more and more of.>endless fucking menus, no functioning marketboard, had to go to housing districts just to fucking buy shit and it was obtuse>using the mouse was server side, not client side>90% of the content was leves, what story did exist was extremely sparse and didn't really kick in until they were about to kill the fucking game>the fucking fatigue system where, for no reason at all, you'd get half the XP after an hour of playing in order to want the player to switch over to another job>you had to use stamina to fight, it was easy to burn, AND it regenerated slowly, all while balancing TP alongside it, making fighting even regular mobs a chore>most people just grinded on the coblyns because of how efficient and easy they were to kill relative to other mobs>retarded statmaxxing where you get situations like pugilist needing strength, vitality, piety, AND intelligence because they were an evasion tank (???)>"muh one big zone" and it was an ugly clusterfuck mishmash of rectangular rooms and you were slow as fuck the entire time, half of it was copy + pastedThat's not even including dumb shit like archers having to buy arrows to use them, not being able to repair anything unless you had that specific crafter level, no auto attacks, or how several jobs reused the same animation for at least half of their abilities, etc.
>>738352118I wish I could like XIfags a bit more.
>>738351970I was there...in the loading screen. I remember spending the entire time trying to log in, only to get errors. Then a trailer started playing out of nowhere. Yep, that was how I experienced the end of the world.
im sol tired of wow clone slop
>>738347080I'll say no only because there was a 1.5 second delay with every single interaction in the game, opening a menu you wait 1.5 seconds, equiping an item 1.5 seconds, clicking on a mining point 1.5 second delay to pull out your pickaxe then the animation starts then you can mine the rock, so like 5 seconds of dead time for an action you are supposed to do hundreds of times, using an ability from your hotbar 1.5 second delay before the animation starts. It felt like shit to play. That said the world of the game and the class system was infinitely better than anything 2.0 onward has, true cross class skills and not (((role actions))), needing to level up a class in order to unlock the skill on another class was incredible and it is something I have hated they got rid of. I want a 1.23 private server with all the new classes up to Viper added in. The best part of 1.0 was that the sub was free for like an entire year because the state of the game was so bad, and I was playing on my friends extra copy of the game so it was 100% free for me to play.
>>738352026Evercold will bring back the old graphics. That’s the promise, anyway.
Sex with Momodi
Does XIV 1.0 have a Lalafell front flipping into a dogeza?No? Then I don't want it. Simple as.
>>738349157I miss it so much bros. Bring back the real Limsa, bring back all the real maps.
>>738349012>>738349430>WoL's og partyHyurMi'qoteLalafellElezenRoegadynElezen (F)>WoL's party nowHyurHyurMi'qote Mi'qote (F)ElezenElezenElezenElezen (F)
>>738352305>Evercold will bring back the old graphics.Isn't that what 7.0 was supposed to do? Or what do you mean?All I've seen for Evercold is more character creation options. Hopefully more graphical updates to the stuff that still needs to be updated.
>>738352437Subhyurian races need not apply to my party.
>>738352118XIfags were pissed because XIV was a poor XI-2 and at the time XI was still very much alive and active and they weren't ready to give up on a game they'd invested thousands of hours and years of their lives into. now XI is dead so they're nostalgic and more receptive. XIV got rebooted into X|V which turned it from a poor XI-2 into World of Warcraft: Final Fantasy Edition, they're looking back and imagining a world where they stuck with XIV 1.0 and it was allowed to evolve into its own thing, rather than just copying what was already successful, to become that XI-2 that dream of but weren't ready for 15 years ago.
>>738347080yeah that's why it bombed and needed savingretard
>>738349624Don't forget that you had anti leveling mechanics, so you could only get so much exp in a class per day.
>>738352437You forgot Krile lol
>>738352528So did the devs
>tried playing FFXI on a free trial because anons here insisted it's got a good story and game>it's so fucking shitty that even OG Everquest feels better to play in comparison>plot is nowhere to be seen 5 days in, dropped it
>>738352528So will CBU3 going into Evercold.
>>738352486^ 40 year old boomer 2003 XI player here, I can confirm this is the most accurate take for anyone who's curious.>>738352668good, get filtered zoomertranny trash.
>>738352437It appears our superiority has led to some controversy
Finally got around to Shinryu Unreal and had a lot of fun taking a trip down memory laneStormblood fight design was great, I missed it and hope they take inspiration in EC
>>738352449Yeah. 7.0 was the FIRST graphical update. The second one (the full restoration of the original look) is planned for 8.x. They haven’t shown it yet, but they already confirmed the specs are going up soon. We’ll probably see it at the EU or JP Fan Fests.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=na5lAIJ2CHIahh final fantasy
>>738352795enjoy your ox cart full of shit i guess?
>>738352892>non-sequitur replyI can't accept your concession because it's beyond worthless.
>>738352517Which was good, I was no-lifing XIV with my brother when it came out, playing it in shifts, it took like 10+ hours of grinding non-stop to trigger that shit, at which point I'd swap classes, tag out and nap while my brother took over on another class. People complaining about fatigue were completely blowing it out of proportion. It was never an issue for 95% of the playerbase. Like I watched several entire series of anime grinding out crafting levels in the weeks after the game came out until I was the first one on my server to reach max rank and I only hit fatigue a few times, at which point its like, "welp time to go level a combat class again".
>>738352875I'm glad I was able to figure out what was causing my stuttering, so I can keep the game maxxed when it happens
>>738352449No more updates, bub. They are struggling to update old expacs already.>>738352875Sorry, bud. You will be waiting until 9.0 when PS4 is gone.
>>738352668
>>738347080As >>738347901 said.It had promise in 1.21 forward but it was a moot point by then, the gameplan was to reboot in 2.0 and give us the same but less server-side tied bullshit.However, Yoshi overpromised. He gave us a shitty version of WoW and eventually became Dance Dance Revolution (Raid Edition).Yoshi LiedGame DiedEnd of Heavensward (?? 3,x) was the best the game ever was IMO, I played until 5.4 or something in 2021 and quit)
>>738352998wow, been a while since i've had someone so raped reply to me like this. thanks for bringing my mood up!
>>738353045>I'm glad I was able to figure out what was causing my stuttering
>>738352869damn that outfit looks great on that bun bun
>>738347080As flawed as it was, it felt more like mmorpg than the multiplayer boss rush it eventually became.
>>738352421>bring back all the real maps.the 'real' maps:
>>738347080It had fancier shaders and effects, a Nomura-assisted soundtrack, and was different from what people are used to with XIV now, so people will nostalgia for a game that frankly only started showing potential right as it was killed. Beta to release, that game was rancid dogshit.
>>738353080>m.jpgummm zoomer larp moment over here
>>738352382I need a femlala doing naked dogezalike right fucking NOW
>>738352875Thing is there's so many things they have to do in Evercold already. I'd be surprised if they even keep updating old gear (which is already going at a snail's pace since the midpoint of the very expansion it was announced as a feature).
>>738353235Femra do it better, it accentuates their hips a crazy amount
>>738353317
>>738353079>Sorry, bud. You will be waiting until 9.0 when PS4 is gone.Nah, PS5 gets dropped in 8.3. That’s when the second graphics update hits, not 9.0. Have a little faith in Yoshi‑P, brother.
I wish Lalas looked like this
>>738353317Anon...That.... that isn't a femlala....
>>738353157You been having it too?I fixed it by disabling something called the Microsoft software association boot enumerator or something like that in the device manager
>>738353387I meant PS4. That was a brain fart. Sorry.
>>738353434okay, and?i want a femlala EB to kneel for me and beg like a dog
>>738353280
>>738351082ARR onwards in general kinda fucked up the prior ideas of combat logic in their attempts to keep things more consistent with gameplay. Shit like that cutscene fit more for Final Fantasy flair, but no one is gonna be doing it in-game.
>>738351486>>738351781At least it's not FF7 Cid, who has mid-day grandpa naps and acts like a retiree that should probably not be running around doing all this shit, and then he's like, what, 27-29
>>738349284Player character interaction does though.
>>738349845This was technically an Echo cutscene too so it was in the past. My man was like 16 and pulling all kinds of tail, literal and figurative. He definitely piped down Flhammin after accidentally helping kill Minfilia's dad.
XIV being a XI copy would just be kinda boring.
MY GOAT
I tire of waitingI wish to try Evolved Dragoon
>started ff14> slow, even boring start but it started to pick up during the last missions of ARR>want to discuss the game with anons>every f14 treads is either haters or avatar fagsman this board is miserable
>>738353932Why is no one talking about how his swords are on his hips?
>>738353918>XIV: login once every 4 months, do 4 hours of content, unsub>XI: login everyday because there's always long term goals that you can chip away at daily that makes you want to loginXI wins again
>>738353938go into pvp and press your auto combo. fun, isn't it?
>>738353753Tbf I also take mid-day naps and have been doing it since like 20. Also know people of various nationalities who have been doing it since that young. So long as you can afford to do it because you don't have work that day, I think a lot of people do.
>>738348319>Astro>Back in the day Lmao
>>738349157Like with all Bethesda games, the loading screens are literally just the fault of console niggers
>>738354002They're sheathed at the hip in Dawntrail's trailers too, and all Mamool Ja vipers sheathe their swords on their hips, it's only the player races that sheathe their swords on their backsAbsolute first thing I did when Dawntrail went up and I saw the goddamned Kirito swords on the back was look for a mod that sheathes the swords at the hip
>>738354002They really need to give an option to toggle dual wielded weapon positions like that.>>738353957/v/ is just a bit tsundere
>>738353957This thread doesn't have too many of eitherWhatcha wanna talk about?
1.0 was better
>>738347080>sick and tired of 75 era XI>full time job to do anything in the game >see ffxiv 1.0>see the same horrible maps designed to keep me in a skinner box And thats why I never bothered with 14 1.0
>>738354218Then you should definitely take some screenshots of the very alive, very active 1.0 FFXIV you are currently playing.
WITH ABYSSAL DARK AND HERO'S BLADE, I BRING MY PEOPLE LIBERATIONDid he have to go that hard?
For me it's alpha graphix.
I miss Eorzea so fucking much its unreal
>>738349157>LOOK AT WHAT YOSHIDA TOOK AWAY FROM YOUSony took that from you.Never forgive consoleniggers.
Have they revealed the main scenario writer yetIf its still hiroi i wouldnt be hopeful They also need to put some bite back into the game with classic rape, racism and classism since DT felt so fucking sterile with the tural natives except the eugenics lizards.
>>738354307Yes. It was very necessary.
>>738354060Not really...that specific kit only works in PVP and PVP is hellI need to see how the rest of the new kit meshes in a PVE environment with combat flow in mind, it could be a very fun flow but it could also not be too
>>738354326Why are you including stormblood in the good timeline? You could consider it "XIV's Dawntrail", in that it was so poorly executed it forced SE to put all hands together in order to fix the game - leading to the massive success of the Shadowbringers and Endwalker expansions.
>>738354307WARE MY RIME-KISSED BLADES WARE MY RIME-KISSED BLADES WARE MY RIME-KISSED BLADES WARE MY RIME-KISSED BLADES
>>738354171how amazing the last 3 hours of ARR are, the whole combo of castrum+praetorium+ultimate weapons redeem the whole basic game for me, now I’m thinking about farming relic weapons just to beat Bahamut with it and be done with ARR.
>>738354395Also the kit isn't really the same other than 123 consolidation and Sky High.
>>738354316I always want that slick UI whenever these get posted
I still think its funny the minute we show up to ff14 india we all get sick and scammed
>>738354356I'm huffing copium but I just want a return to basics expansion after Coldbringer, I fully believe Gridania, Limsa, and Ul'dah could easily support three full expansions, we don't have to keep doing shards and reflections
The story for this game is nonsense but everyone acts like it makes sense
>>738354316This is how I hoped Dawntrail would look.
>>738354449I wouldn't recommend it, relic farming is a massive pain in the ass
>>738354589what'sa matter anon, no sylvanas to keep your attention
>>738354449The base relic quest (A Relic Reborn) is what came with 2.0 launch, very simple steps involving fighting the Hard Mode Garuda/Ifrit/Titan which you'll have to do anyway for MSQ progression. So I do recommend that.After that are longer steps because it was the only other content to exist back then, so it was a looong grind to complete. It's up to you, but I wouldn't recommend it. The game will hand you higher item level gear anyway.
>>738354475Somehow made me really like india land with the lore and the prayer there. Also ancient dragon ruler is coolIt fucking sucked when they made said dragon some brash shota in the patches though
>>738354589What part of the story is not making sense my nigga
>>738354669India's mythology is really fucking good
>>738354475It's accurate.
>>738354589It's mostly consistent in its logic, barring Stormblood and Dawntrail that are absolute writing enigmasWhat are you getting confused on?
>>738354316>conceptthis was 2.0 alpha (concept) screenshot anonstop trying to bullshit / stop trying to prove you were there (you werent)pic related, 2.0 beta 1>>738354601>>738354463I played 1.0 beta (lost screenshots due to hDD failure but I remember starting in Limsa and trecking out in the wilderness to the Lv50 Gobbue areas), 1.17->1.23c, 2.0 beta 1+2, 2.0->2.2, then got fucked up IRL, came back to 3.45 and quit in 5.2(?? .3?)
>>738354431Stormblood's story was great, 4.0 was easily as good if not better than 3.0, but people only remember the good parts of Heavensward and the bad parts of Stormblood. I consider Stormblood's 4.X content to be the peak of XIV, until G'raha Tia shows up to fuck our shit up with a DBZ filler arc that derails the entire game.
>>738354449>prae + ultima weapon>end of ARRlol. you still got ALL the patch msq to go through. do crystal tower if you haven't already, it becomes required for later MSQ and it's fun watching 23 other retards run around for the first time.
>>738353280Far better than just teleporting everywhere and flying around empty zones on a mount.
>>738354690>India's mythology is really fucking goodyes saars it is of being very good saars
>>738354809Find a Youtube comments section to populate
>>738354806took you a little while to come up with a nonsensical retort huh
>The Stormblood schizo is back>He will once again say nothing but Garlemald is exciting and the plot being decided by where Zenos happens to exists at this point in the MSQ good
>>738347080nothing they do in ARR will ever be more kino then actually ending the world with the server shutdown.
>>738354720>(you werent)faggot i wasI'm the only person that remembers conjurer having a two handed idle before it was changed to the current dinky one handed stance we have now
>>738354316honestly this isn't really all that different besides ui and shinier dragoon armor
>>738354589Most of the issues with the story are because ARR is a direct sequel to 1.0 but 1.0 doesn’t exist any more
>>738351534Yes, she makes an appearance in Endwalker.
>>7383549381.X had better baked lighting and better gear quality since they hadn't yet compressed it for ARR, but otherwise I think the current game looks better, probably even the cut-off point for gwaffix that I'd want an MMO to have
>>738354871I'm so glad Garlemald poetically self-destructed through its own sheer arrogance in Endwalker.Team rocket villains with stupidly incongruent tech yoinked from like 8 different Final Fantasies were starting to wear thin. At least Endwalker made them compelling enough to sympathize with.Well, until the patches retreaded the "we dont want your stinking help savages and you are simply trying to enslave us" shit.
>>738354848>reddit tier reaction image and filenameYou don't have to confirm you're brown, just don't reply.
>>738354307>>738354441I WILL FREE US FROM THE WHEEL
I lost most of my 1.0 screenshots, but I get nostalgic for 1.0 from time to time and it kinda sucks that it doesn't exist anymore. Modern XIV doesn't really scratch the itch for me, its so different.
>>738354938
>>738354937ah then that proves you were alpha becasue my friend send me a conjurer screenshot with thatmy apologies frenand i was thinking of the coerthas mockup image which was truly the concept image, apologies
>>738355049>AIIIEEE GET AWAY FROM ME SAVAGES I KNOW MY RIGHTS>*dum dum dum dum*>*sounds of garlean being torn apart by derelict mechs*>AIIIEEE SAVE ME SAVAGES I KNOW MY RIGHTS
>>738354730Eureka is still my favorite content from XIV and it is a shame that they fucked up the entire concept of the exploration content in the very next expansion with that garbage Bozja.
>>738354937Not him but who even gives a shit if you were there for 1.0? Oh congrats, you played a piece of shit mmo that got completely scrapped. Yay! That'll buy you a lot of currency you can exchange for goods!
>>738355049Garlemald didn't self destruct. The tiny capital did. There's like 10 legions wandering around and many more territories across Eorzea.
Since they are starting a "new overall arc" with EC, are they gonna get nobuo uematsu (or just soken) to make a new "Answers"? Like a new theme, not just for the expansion itself, but the following couple expansions as well. Everyone is saying EC is basically ShB 2.0 with them trying to reestablish the game being great again, but I'm not not seeing it that way, everything seems superficially Shadowbringery without the soul. Going to a shard, and instead of going to zones to vanquish the light, it's just going to be vanquishing the ice or whatever. So much of ShB was lightning in a bottle that they can't just do again. Like they're already behind in that the leadup to ShB was great in itself with everyone going into a coma and the mystery with that. Some dude who fucked up his summoning magic like 5 times finally latching onto you to be teleported to what was basically Majora Mask's Termina and a bunch of ARR callbacks beats the fuck going through a little portal made from 2 keys.Finishing that first dungeon and seeing the night for the first time was kino, but now it's expected with the ice melting away or whatever. Just like it's expected that one of the new characters (my bet is on the girl in the trailer) to be the 4ths reflection of the WoL. At least I like snow levels.
>>738355140BEGONE SAVAGES YOU ARE JUST TRYING TO MAKE US INDEBTED TO YOU AND SUBSERVIENT THROUGH OUR DEBTWE WILL NOT BE VICTIMSEVEN THOUGH WE ONLY STILL LIVE BECAUSE OF YOUR MAGNANIMITY AND COULD EASILY WIPE US OUT AND WE COULDNT DO SHIT ABOUT IT
>>738355216The Garlean Community
>>738354856What can I say. I am a busy person. But what is the point in even playing a game when you skip over most of it? I like being required to walk in games, I play the Elder Scrolls game and I haven't fast travelled in those in over 15 years now.
1.0 was awful but it felt like they just hadn't made 80% of the game yet. Like it could have been good one day. ARR was never and will never be good.
>>738355086I MISS THE OLD 1.0 UI SO GODDAMN MUCHi do not miss the menu/server lag tho
>>738349430
>>738355250The absolute community.
>>738355293No, there was a game there.And that game sucked complete ass.
>>738355293ARR was magical, tf you talking about
>>738355294>belts
>>738355413eh, that entire city that you could see in the distance but wasn't accessible was a real let down. I assumed it was basically supposed to be Jeuno and purposely held out of the beta, but no it just didn't exist. We tried doing exp parties a few times and I think I remember it being slightly better than soloing but it didn't really work in any cohesive way
>guys guys that game that bombarded itself and died actually had so much potential though it had so much potential you just don't get it no one gets it but i do it could have been so great i mean it's so great inside of my head Wildstarification needs to be studied. It seems like an actual mental disorder.
>>738351270I personally assume that's part of the dev build, since enemies weren't attacking either.
>>738354449Anon, that is the base game.The patch content is longer than that.Slows a bit in the middle but peaks like nothing else at the end.
>>738355293ARR literally saved the game doe.
>>738355524NEVAR 4GET
post characters that matter
trust the plan garlebros >9.0 drops>Nero and the Garleans have introduced the Loporrits to fascism and start an arms build up>Neo Garlean Empire is born on the moon >they plan to wipe out the entire population of the Source and reintroduce a new master race, 10 feet tall bunny men with third eyes>FINAL FANTASY XIV: MOONRAKER
>>738355783you start
>>738355840already did
>>738355783MEIN GAY BABY JAIL DO YOUR BEST, MR. GM
>>738349157I remember you could fail quests by picking the wrong dialogue option like joining the pirates right away.
>>738355742>literally couldn't beat the EX fight if you didn't bring along at least 1 BRD or BLM for meteorsI specifically had to gear out my BLM just to do that fight with my LS because we wanted another caster.
>>738355613You can't play the full-blown insane asylum that is modern FFXIV and accuse anyone else of being mentally ill.
It is extremely funny that the thing 1.0 is most fondly remembered for is the story arc where it blows up
>>738355783>EVERY STEP WE TAKE
>>738355730Yeah, but it's not as good as the perfect XIV 1.0 that exists inside of my head and does everything exactly how I want it, though.
I WAS FIGHTING LV80+ MOBS BEFORE YOU KIDS EVEN STARTED PLAYING 2.0+!
>>738355814Daily reminder that Shinryu is a multidimensional traveling dragon.We are riding the lightning mfker
>>738356072You don't have to be so jealous that you weren't there for 1.0 that it drives you to post basedjacks, just let it go nigga.
>>738355783My wife T'Kebbe and Khloe
all jokes and memes aside I genuinely don't understand how people can like Heavensward or Shadowbringers but shit on ARR
>>738356181
>squarejeet shill thread to keep a dead game on the board
>>738356235Easy, they never played it and storyskipped until Dawntrail like a bunch of faggots
>>738356180Hit a nerve, did I?
1.0 WAS SUPERIOR BECAUSE YOU COULD DRESS -AND- VISIT YOUR RETAINER!im being sarcastic
Any good plugins you guys recommend?
>>738356325Man the old retainer system was obtuse.And even now, I'd argue... just make a marketboard.
>>738356357Uninstalll this trash, tranny
>>738356289I'm sorry it upsets you so much...
>>738356054>>738355925I remember when GMs would pop up in-game in the cities just to chat with players because there was so little content for us to do.
>>738356357Accurate countdownsNamingwayThat's it
>>738356441it doesn't, merely making an observation. It's rather evident that someone really wants a thread here at all times to discuss the same things that have been discussed thousands of times from thousands of angles, probably to fool anons into buying this piece of dead crap and finance Sena Bryer's genital mutilation
>>738355954Easiest way to get through the first 30 levels or so of MSQ before they took it out was to do it on a DoL/DoH class. Since you had combat quests with enemies often higher level instead they had you do Parley which I'm pretty sure exists as some shitty inn minigame still. Way easier and also why it was a stupid idea that was never going to work for long. How the fuck were stakes ever going to be raised if you can resolve everything as a Weaver?
>>738356571Thanks for the analysis, hall monitor-kun.
>>738356357it's a standalone and not a plugin, but I like anamnesis for workshopping different glams without going out and actually getting the gear and dye first.
how are you still playing this after they/ them enuo or an entire expansion about how awesome a tranny cat is
I liked the whole Titan banquet storyline
>>738356827i likedleviabeetus
>>738355613this is happening right now with MarathonI'm sure in a year or so people will be blaming the chuds for killing such a perfect game that had so much potential waiting to be unleashed, had Bungie been given more time (and money). When in fact the game is just yet another mediocre entry in a relatively small and oversaturated market (extractikon shooters). It is fairly by the books. I have no idea why people keep hailing the game as this revolutionary second coming of Christ, when it is not that, not even close. These fags actually got me to spend $40 on that junk just to realize they were all just talking shit
>>738355215Plus the force ghost Ardbert and the drama with (You) on the verge of dying. The game never actually had moments like that before with characters interacting with (You) like that. Endwalker kept that momentum and looking back I can see why they “rushed” it. Unironically having Zenos obsess over you is what pushed the games narrative up lol. On that note, I hope the direction they do isn’t to just “melt the ice”. But more about figuring out the mechanics of stabilizing the worlds. There’s gonna be a reveal of an outside force doing it. Has to be.
>>738356513I swear I have a screenshot of one in the city (that wasnt the end times of 1.23c) but its gonna take too long to sort thru all of them >>738356649This was only up until 1.1x somewhere IIRCSee my screenshot, I turned in a levequest while PLD and I got CUL50
>>738356827Me too. It was funny. It also introduced the Company of Heroes, which are fairly likable characters (specially Brayflox) and it was funny to see Y'shtola losing her mind from impatience.
>>738347080fuck no
>>738347080They're both dogshit
>>738355294We can try but even with anon aid I don't think we'll ever truly be there again, so I guess it's preference then.
>>738349747never ever, not unless you get a huge publicity-impacting outcry like blizz did with nostalrius. closest we'll get is xiv mobile which is itself becoming a never ever and is targeting china anyway with the rest of the world as an afterthought. and it'll be shit even if it happens.
>>738356827both ifrit and titan questline are good, but lamuh and garuda are horrible
>>738356916Happening with New World too.Buggy piece of soulless amazon garbage upon release. Then it got minor updates and then it was shut down and now people are starting to pretend it was actually sovlfvl and was on the road to being the best MMO ever made but it was a snuffed masterpiece the world just wasn't ready for.
>>738357005you cant go home againhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XheYpT7-7sE>>738355524ANOTHER BELT PICBEHOLD!
>>738356937Honestly, I think the Titan thing taking as long as it did actually saved us from the Garlean invasion. Unless we would’ve been taken hostage but I doubt it, they only captured the main “leaders”.
>>738357053>is targeting china anyway with the rest of the world as an afterthought. and it'll be shit even if it happens.fairly sure it's already on the verge of death as we speak and may never make it to the west in any official capacity
>>738357093It'll probably happen with Ashes of Creation as well a few years down the line, after all of the lawsuits and that whole fucking mess come to a close
>>738357132>>738355524>"okay we had belts be an item too, uhhh, maybe that's a little bloaty, so lets remove them">and then many ARR armorsets designed for belts in 1.0 just lacked them in ARR forevermore and this never got fixed
>>738356513>>738356935>idly grinding away crafting in ul'dah chatting with LS on the steps>GM as the newspaper lady walks up to the area and starts RPing interviews about adventures and happenings in the world>often some player interviews would appear in the lodestone faux newspaper dropsThat shit was soulful, wish they didn't stop but I guess XIV is just too big now.
>>738357228Sometimes, I feel like people love masturbating over the thought of the perfect MMO being killed in the cradle or being some underappreciated gem that died for our sins more than actually playing MMOs.
>>738357251Mid 1.0 removed belts being visible as gear anyway. And they adjusted the achievements like the Templar set and such. That and levequests were adjusted. ARR leveling gear wasn’t very consistent anyway haha.
>>738347080Sex
>>738357425that's a kid
>>738357375AoC was more of a rugpull than some kind of misunderstood game.
>>738357190Honestly I think it's part of the other reason why the new progress UI looks the way it does and why we're getting Evolved Mode besides all three main consoles being emphasized; mobile is probably gonna fold so I wouldn't be surprised if they're finding ways to prep the real game for mobile instead. At the end of the day mobile is some bastardized yet identical version of the game at the same time, might as well just give people what they want and let them use their pre-existing accounts on their phones.
>>738357335This is a particularly ugly looking image. Thanks.
>>738357405>>738357335I miss levequests tbfnothing like an escort mission to bring you out to nowhere and then say "haha time to trek back to the camp or a city GOOD LUCK"
>>738354589sorry that XIV doesn't have many characters that have "le my people" as their whole motivation and talk like all of their players are born deaf
How many people do I need to clear DR in a reasonable amount of time if we all use essences and stuff? How hard does Echo carry?
>>738354589animetroons have low standards
I sincerely hope the new raid difficulty isn't just current normal mode with normal mode being made even easierModerately challenging boss fights to do dailies on would be so fun
that guy said troons for no reason so you know he has a real point to makethey don't usually use the special buzzword for regular posts
>>738357642Why are you in a thread for something you don't like
what a whore
>>738347080No, I played the Alpha for FF14 and it was fucking terrible. The most disappointing game I ever played in my life as a big FF11 fan. ARR was incomparably better.
>>738357054Garuda is hot and I want to have sex with her so it's okRamuh being the first good aligned primal is ok
>>738357658it's probably advanced level fights brought to raiding
>>738357335>That shit was soulfulIt really was. I guess things like this were only possible when it was clear they were gonna shut down version 1.0. Whatever they could think of, they went with, because there'd be no expectations for any of it to continue in the reboot. Like when they flooded the cities with mobs at the end.
>>738349012what happened to these adventurers? we just know what happened to the psycho rangers versions
>>738357896>Like when they flooded the cities with mobs at the end.MORE VANGUARDS ARE REQUIRED
>>738357132>>738357335>>738357547>>738356935>>738356325>>738356165>>738355294I want to play this so bad, I know people say it sucks but man I'm so fucking curious. I want to experience it for myself.I DON'T CARE IF THE GRAPES ARE SOUR I WANT THEM ANYWAYAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>738357869Honestly for a lot of fights simply making mechanics kill you more and having an enrage might be sufficient
>>738358017Funny thing is iirc advanced is the opposite of that.It's more difficult mechanics, but a little less punishing.
>>738358016you can set up a private server to mess around in
Battle Regimens were 1000x better than Limit Breaks.
>>738358016Just play 11, it's mostly just the same but way better made
>>738358016>>738358064different timesyou wouldnt get it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_HGWNMnlC-0Sigh...
>>738358118I would, I was thereit sucked for the most part
CHICKEN JOCKEY
>>738357996My linkshell killed those Lv95 Spinerip Ogres by pulling them to the edge of their range and then just running out of its range and then as they walked back you hit it again and repeat, do it for like 10 minutes and they eventually died. We were collecting their horns (which didn't do anything) on the offchance a later update would make them valuable. He had a couple stacks of HQ+3 horns by the time 2.0 hit, then they really become worthless. I think the ended being turned into dark matter or whatever.
>>738349908The original game was doing the same, except it was hiding its loading times behind 30s to several minutes runs to the next section, that's why the left of the webm has a huge section where there's absolutely nothing but a lonely single way path. Uldah was especially moronic, its two main gates were permanently closed so you had to take a ~30s detour to get in or out everytime.I fucking hate the segmented world but I'd rather have that than their original "solution" from 1.0.
>>738357852fair
>>738357996>city being overrun with Garlean machina dead set on destroying and killing everything in their path>Erik just chilling like it's nothingHe's one cool cucumber.
Almost there>Speak with Wuk Lamatlol
>>738358173aye but most of us expected the same game but just not an ass of an engine, 2.0 was still fun too but it came with its own monkey paw
>>738358379sex with this hrothgar
>>738357583I did speedruns back in SHB and I think if you went all out with actions and potions it took like 12-15 minutes. you need 2 dudes with lost rend armor so you get 100% uptime on the 10% damage boost, everyone using the skirmisher/profane/martialist potions for big damage boosts, 1 guy with bravery, 1-2 guys with lost dervish if possible, and then everyone else loading up on the banners, fonts of power/magic etc.
>>738358016Maybe with current technology the game could run at a constant 30FPS this time, but also it would be a radically different experience if it wasn't so jank. They released the Moogle Mog primal fight instead of Titan because of the Japan earthquake bullshit, and to get the spawn item you had to turn on /walk and walk past a bunch of level 90 treants that would one shot you if you made sound by running. Because the servers were in Japan and dogshit us westoids had frequent issues where the client and server wouldn't communicate for a few seconds, then the client would notify the server of the characters new location, which the server would register as the character running to the spot, killing them instantly. Funny story in hindsight and gay and retarded when doing it.
>>738358379god damn i love hrothgar
>Estinien is the only character to escape being sent to city leader hell and actually sticks around in the partyIt's comical at this point, at least have us get a new permanent party member in EC for the love of god
>>738358379Imagine paying for this humiliation ritual lmao
>>738358379I'm sorry to tell you she doesn't go away until 7.4
>>738350352Is he done done? 0 projects he's working on? Wasn't Fantasian supposed to be getting a sequel?>>738356235The story was unbelievably boring until the Waking Sands massacre, and it's damn near impossible to wipe until Titan which I think was my first party wipe. You could beat an entire SNES RPG with a decent story by the time the game gets off its ass and even then, it's not all uphill.
>>738358471It is kind of weird that the only long-term party members we've gotten this entire time both came from HW
>>738358379I'm surprised you were able to push through over this past week, it must have been painfulThe patch stories are still wack for a little bit so don't think you're entirely free yet
>>738358471this is exactly why Sphene___ should come with us
>>738358628But I love the taste of shit
>>738358471Does G'raha not count?
>>738358167Garuda getting mogged by Susano was great.The primals being used as a power souce was not. the bnuuy retcon was just too fast of a fix. maybe they should have added a primal fix quest instead of that painful labirynthos slog to fix the ship
>>738358471>monkey pawn>we get Wuk Lamat as permanent party member
what does tanaka think of ffxiv today
I've never played 1.0 but I've always been struck by how ambitious it seemed. I think most people come to realize how scared the devs are to take risks after spending a lot of time in the current FFXIV and noticing how predictable everything is. Obviously they introduce unique content from time to time but even that content seems pretty 'safe', very calculated risks. To me it seems like they overcorrected in their approach to developing modern FFXIV out of fear of being 'too ambitious', especially in the second half of its lifespan.
tacos tacos TACOS FUCKING TACOS TACOS TACOS SHUT THE FUCK UP WHY DOES EVERY SINGLE QUEST IN THIS EXPAC HAVE SOMEONE TALK ABOUT FUCKING TACOSARE TACOS THE ONLY THING THEY EAT IN TURAL?
i miss belts actually appearing on the character and tightening certain parts of shirts or robes, hopefully the gear toggles add them back
>>738358727
>>7383586867.4, that's when it gets back on trackI believe in Pinkhrothlala
>>738358093I prefer Skillchains and Magic Bursts. I like what they were going for though with the Battle Regimens weaving magic and weapon skills together is cool, making each one give a unique debuff was a good idea too, something skillchains probably should have always done that. Like the element(s)/attribute(s) being chained giving increasing and stacking debuffs as you chainskills together, the more steps resulting in a bigger debuff and the higher level of the skillchain debuffing more attributes/elements.Like a 4 step level 2 Distortion skillchain would inflict a 40% debuff to their INT/MND in addition to increasing Ice/Water damage taken by 1.4x. Shit like that.
>>738358570Uematsu is more or less soft-retired now, but he is coming out with a new album / score called Merregnon: Heart of Ice next month. It's directly influenced by both Final Fantasy and the Moomins.
>>738358471Yugiri was there with us in the beginningwhat is she doing now?
>>738358263>I fucking hate the segmented world but I'd rather have that than their original "solution" from 1.0.They could probably connect parts of the world nowadays.Problem is that this is the kind of thing you want to be foundational.
>>738358768They're filled with Wuk Lamat's poop nuggets
>have to take Poochie with meCan I just take Erenville?I know he doesn't fight, but I'd rather have him standing back doing nothing than having to run it with Poochie
>>738358848My beloved....
>>738358768Prishe likes Tavnazian tacos albeit
>>738358848my sexslavei mean wife
>>738358703Not really, he was around since 2.1. It's more that they dug him back up than introducing a new person entirely.
>>738358768Meta context here is taco's are the ascendant "exotic" food in Japan for the past decade or so, maybe half decade and some change. Hiroi thinks of South/Central America and it's just fried tortillas and ground beef and maybe people somewhere, which I guess isn't too far off.
>>738358768Prishe literally liked tacos already.
what kind of mentally ill tranny still plays this kekw
>>738358768Imagine if this was the Africa expansion and everybody talked about watermelons and fried chicken all the time
>>738358471the japs would hate this and it would never happen, but I really think they need to start dropping old scions, preferably starting with the twins. alphinaud has had his character arc and them some, meanwhile alisaie is a dumb gorilla who just clenches her fist at every slight injustice. drop old scions or put them in NPC jail for an expansion or two and let new or worthy NPCs into the main party for few expansions
>>738358848would have died a painful death if it wasn't for Alisaie's funny piglet.say thanks Alisaie
>>738358941that can't happen cause we are africa
>>738358436that was the best
>>738358941"Shit wrapped in a tortilla" does make up like 70% of ethnic LatAm cuisine
>>738358831In NPC jail / sidestory hell because her English VA and her two kids were murdered by her fiancé
>>738358783Maybe XIV can bring some team work/synergy system thing other than Simon says.
>>738351123Her outfit always looked like it was pulled out of XII instead of made for XIV specifically
>>738358379It's really just 7.1 that's shit after this. It just happens to be very shit.
>>738358848she should have been a scionit was utterly retarded to have her back as a queen when the whole point of it was for the alexandrians to stand up for themselves
>>738358975You mean Eorzea? I think it's 50/50 Europe/Africa. But the 'African' parts (Thanalan, Gyr Abaniaa) are really just MENA.
>>738359024can I fucking go back in time and prevent that event? that asshole ruined my Shadow stand in badly.Imagine a current day Yugiri scion with a bunch of new upgrades and maybe a cute dog pet.
>>738359147brother I like yugiri but she has zero personality.
>>738358963Especially if the story is shard hopping. You have an entirely logical reason why you can't use the old cast for the expansion, try out these new world characters and even if they flop it's a different world. You can literally make it so they're an entire dimension away forever on worst case, best case you get a Ryne diamond that you logically should also be able to bring back with you, unlike ShB.
ffxiv NEEDs classic servers or square will go bankrupt
>>738358768There's some kind of mind-bending field cast over all of Tural that makes it impossible for people to say anything about it other than how much they like the food, especially the tacos, or that they love how diverse and inclusive it is. If an NPC brings up anything from Tural in conversation it's ultimately going to relate to one of those two topics.
>>738359350you need a hot poker shoved up your ass so your bank will be ruptured
>>738359363Alxaal is referring to beastmen being near-impossible to actually work with in Vana'diel btw
>>738358704I mean, Emet-Selch already revealed a long time ago by that point that primal summoning was a small part of creation magics rigged to explode that the ascians had spread around, from there to assuming Hydaelyn's direct servants and creations would have been left a manual on creation magics isn't that big of a leap.
Where's the 1.0 Momodi walk webm?
>>738359252maybe they can fix her. maybe they can write her better.I miss her
>>738358768I tried mezcal because of Dawntrail and it was absolute dogshitTaste like drinking liquid smokeNo other flavors
did you just heckin use the word DIVERSITY? in 2026???? you must do better, square. it is CURRENT YEAR
>>738353274>Minor spelling mistake>actually has an in-game modelWOW. I thought he was just a meme CGI.
>>738359556in the same expansion that brought us "right side of history", yes
>>738359512oh but she has enough energy to hire that fat fuck sleepy dragon and carry my ass around but spreading word that the summoning is all wrong or calling a bunny down to earth to stop the spread of bullshit among the tribes is too hard?
Check out these hips
>>738359363Image makes sense when you remember he'll go back home and participate in a Besieged where a group of beastmen the city-state he is working for literally refers to as the Mamool Ja Savages charges into town trying to slaughter people and steal a magical power device for the trillionth time. Neither side has learned anything, neither side really gains or loses ground. Seeing Mamool Ja being mostly cool in this world is nuts for him, he's basically only seen a handful of nice Goblins, a Yagudo or two that wasn't too bad.
>>738359663walk, bitch.
>>738359670I really hate limsa afkersabsolutely trash taste in glamsjust the most boring shit imaginable zero fucking self-expression, because they have no self
>>738358852
>>738359663It literally all comes down to "I can't just go and stop the ascians because if I do butterfly effect might result in WoL not being born or going through their adventures and then we're stuck in a time paradox". Venat had literally one single choice to make, either let the ancients do their shit unimpeded and trust it'd all turn out for the best, or sunder the world and then just sit everything out until the point you'd reach her and finally offer a solution to the Final Days (or take her plan B of just running away on the moon). Going half and half on either of those was assured total destruction.
>>738359758that's idyllshire nigga
>>738359363WE. LOVE. DIVERSITY!!!!!!!!
>>738359829still a shit glam
>>738359829You expect this random seether to actually play the game?
>>738359524Literally the OP
>>738358869She had to be my tank when I DPSd, I was legitimately dissociating at that point so I numbly stumbled through itHaving Krile around is nice I guess...
>>738359893Oh it wouldn't load for me
>>738359843Careful, or Yoshi-P will sue you.
>>738359363I agree with your sentiment but Alxaal is a bad exampleBeastmen in XI including Mamool Ja are actual savages who invade cities for funsies, that's why both Prishe and him were surprised when they realized that XIV Mamool Ja are not warmongering lizards
>>738359843Its been awhile since I played XI but wasn't Tavnazia and San d'Oria like super xenophobic and untrusting of the non-Elvaan races? Like I distinctly remember facing discrimination by them because I was playing a Hume.
>>738358848You really need to stop posting this girl or else I may end up doing something terrible to her.
>>738359843>wow so diverse>lizard expansion with -1 effort towards lizards>lizard kingdom? FUCK NO here are hyur empire number 923894258 and a few miqotes and bunnies>what do you mean only 3 lizards in Alexandria in the lizard continent>the other lizard kingdom? cat and sharlaiyan fag importing culture you uncultured savages lmaostraight up colonization being painted as diversity by the way. nips trying their hardest not to be xenophobic racist fucks.
here's hoping that they can go back to ARR/HW style worldbuilding now that they fired Kate and the rest of diversity officers
next jobs are hammer with tower shield and dual crossbowsyou didn't hear it from me
>tural is such a diverse and inclusive country>now ignore the lizard people that hate everybody for making them subsist on hostile wild life and bananas for 100 years due to a failed land war
>>738360017>>738360031You're expecting a lot out of some guy that reads a single word and starts screeching about the woke.
>>738359078is this a real 3d render from 12
>>738359967It's strange being caught in between the dick sucking faggot retards that make this game their personality, and the deranged haters that want Yoshi P's head on a pike.
>>738360138Tural wasn't really handled much differently than some of the beastnigger quests
>>738360138They got rid of the obvious problems plaguing Dawntrail. That's a good big step in the right direction. We'll see if they can take the next step and put forth new story content that is actually good.
>>738360161>tural is such a diverse and inclusive country>please ignore the fact when you arrived here, the population were split between supporting an expansionist warmonger that despised every other nation on the planet, a tech bro who wanted to turn it into Sharlayan 2.0, and a straight up lizard supremacist
>>738360143Dual pistols, not crossbows
>>738360184Its pretty funny how that word triggers him
1.0 is sovl.
>>738360143>hammer with tower shieldGod yes please.
>>738359350What XIV needs is WoW's timewalking. They already have the systems in place to get players back into old content, they just don't have the incentive to do it. Every tier they should be sending you back to old raids for gear that's relevant in this tier. Potency power creep has made a lot of that stuff insanely easy even if you can find a group to level sync it, so it will need some rebalancing, but don't touch the overall form of the fight and just rebalance the health and damage to be around the current tier's difficulty.If they did do an XIV classic that progged from ARR through to HW I'd play it, probably, but only if it lasted for like a year, so it'd need some quick reputation boosts.>>738360138Did they actually fire Kate?
>>738360206Riding the fence hard, aren't you
>>738360031Everyone is racist in XI but yeah the elves were competitive racists. Pretty sure in Bastok Mines there's an Elvaan NPC and her daughter living in the slums because her village got raided by Orcs and the Sandorian army weren't going to bother using resources reclaiming that broke ass village. So even if you're a knife ear you better be of proper status.
>>738360436>What XIV needs is WoW's timewalking.
>>738360143I'm so much more ready for a single big ass shield over dual shields. Hammer would just be a bonus.
>>738360161That's just how succession works we have to respect the ancient ways of Tural that were instituted like 40 years ago when the first guy took charge and conquered the continent and had like 3 ongoing famines
>>738358379why did you stop playing?
>>738360580hypebeast
>>738360559I honestly don't get the appeal of double shields. It just doesn't feel cool or like it could look impressive in battle. And I've even seen Ranking of Kings, which had an actual dual shield character, but really, in practice he was just a monk with particularly big gauntlets, and we already have MNK.
I don't care. The boys being back together in the trailer still has me excited for 8.0. I hope it's not a short section.
>>738360917Have the dual shield have dual machine guns that fire off aether rounds with elemental effects. Make it anime kino.
>>738360893I wish she was giving ME succor...
>>738360917i can see double shield+canon like the ones from xenoblade
Will you miss anyone from DT?For me, it's Sphene and Shale
>>738360184>>738360382Did these posts get Kate rehired?
>>738361340ye
>>738361264pretty much those twoif we include arcadion characters then I'll also miss my stress reliever yaana and the lalafell announcer as well
>>738361264Sphene and Shale yeah.Sphene more so than Shale.If raid characters count, then Yaana and Honey B as well.And Vamp Fatale for the sexo.
>>738361264It's literally everyone but our main 7.0 crew that was more interesting to miss. Or, almost everyone. The patches introduced a lot of great characters, raids, fun stuff, but in terms of the core cast, Erenville was a brick, Wuk a shit, Bakool speedran development so hard he's a different character after the drama bomb, and everyone else was generally fucking retarded.
>>738361264I liked all the Arcadion characters. Sphene is cute but also I didn't feel like her character really ever fully actualized, but at least it wasn't bad.
I really should go back into the Clyteum in explorer mode to see how well they can do snow/ice stuff now. For obvious reasons.
>>738361264its HIP to FUCK BEES
>>738360580because DT was boringI'm just powering through it now to be EC-ready because it looks good
>>738347080no retard it got nuked from orbit for a fucking reason, it was a disastrous production and ARR being as rough as it is, was still infinitely better in almost every regard except cutscene direction.
>>738361264It's weird how Shale is like the only relevant oblivion character by the end of DT's msq. There's the gerolt clone but he's just a backdrop you don't interact with, the guy who died last patch, there's the two sisters you meet during the leveling msq then they barely show up again.I feel like even the fucking customs officer lala in shalayan was more memorable to people. You'd think we would know the organization a bit better with how much time you spend around them over the course of DT. And in the end the scions just unceremoniously leave at the drop of a hat after a linkshell call.
>>738361895the vibes were better in 1.x tho
>>738358768All of south American culture can be distilled into tacos. Its too bad we couldn't send them off with a luchador fight and a sombrero souvenir.
>>738361932>the gerolt clonereally expected the relic to be tied to him
>>738361936and we all know everyone on /v/ plays for the vibeswho am I kidding, no one here actually plays videogames. this is just /pol/lite
https://youtu.be/GXPFOX8bPq8?t=63What a waste of a violin swell Could have complimented an actual cool sequence
>>738361845Liked it a lot that almost everyone in the Arcadion was an AU take on a job>Black Cat and Brute Bomber are sort of Monks, would call BC more of a Ninja with the doubles thing though>Honey B. Lovely is a bee Dragoon>Wicked Thunder is a Thunder focused Black Mage or Thunder using Arcanist depending on your point of view>Dancing Green is a disco Dancer>Sugar Riot is a Pictomancer with paintguns>Howling Blade is a Viper with a greatswordThis does fall apart in the last raid tier though
>>738361936strong disagree. I'll grant that a lot of the 1.x music is also good, and I like that it gets reused for the modern game, but 1.x does not warrant the historical revisionism. It's one of gaming's biggest car crashes for a reason. I'm glad the story is being archived by people online but that's it.
>>738362058SPEEENthe fucking memes are rooted in my brain help
i'm getting asmongold recommended to me in youtube. i didn't click on anything of his. what did i do to deserve this
What will Rowena do when the tomestone market crashes?
>>738349157>All these retards fawning over hallway loadscreens
>>738362170you probably clicked xeno because chatter is turning him into xiv's asmon
>>738362058Wait for 7.3
>>738362179Unironically this might drive the plot of the next relic weapon
Should I turn off my sprout symbol or leave it on?
>>738362206didn't click a xeno video either. i did watch 'preach reacts to endwalker trailer'. maybe thats it. fuckin norf
>>738361845>yoooooo we have these super soul blending machines that fuses beasts with people without repercussions>no siree we perfected it so there's NO WAY the beasts can overtake the people's souls and cause havoc!>except when they do but lmao no they still keep their soul separated imagine trying to deal with fucked up souls like we just did with voidsents devouring each other TEN MINUTES AGO!>of course no one wants to see Honey B getting snuffed out by a random bee and said bee deciding to go on a breeding spree and spawning a bunch of mutant half bee monsters haha no, here's a generic jpop idol>what do you mean the CEO of Arcadion got his soul overwhelmed by the stupid lizard? haha no, he just set up a big office room and still ran the arcadion FOR MONTHS without anyone noticing he's a 50 foot tall snake with huge glasses and hypermetabolism that most likely did not even need him to kill himself to heal people>oh and the bad things when mingling souls isn't the ego death and mutates and kills thousands shit we've seen with sin eaters or voidsents, or even necromancy>nooooooooo>it's.....!>just cancer. that's it. cancer and heart attack>amazing isn't it?!>IT'S NOT LIKE WE JUST HAD THAT PROBLEM WHERE PEOPLE WHO SOUL VORED MONSTER SOULS GOT FUCKED UP IN THE PREVIOUS RAID NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO>SOUL VORING GOOD>FUCK SOULS>THIS IS THEIR CULTURE>LET THEM EAT SOULS AND RUIN THE LIFESTREAMWHO THE FUCK WROTE THIS SHITWHOTHE FUCKWROTE THIS REGULATOR BULLSHITMASS PRODUCED FREE REVIVES DESPITE NO HEALING MAGIC BEING CAPABLE OF REVERSING HEAVY DAMAGE AND ILLNESSES?REALLYFUCKING REALLYWHO THE FUCK WROTE THIS GARBAGE NONSENSE
>>738362179That bitch will finally get her comeuppance, she's been overdue for one since ARR.
>>738362179all her employees will get their sexy vengeance
>>738362351>MASS PRODUCED FREE REVIVES DESPITE NO HEALING MAGIC BEING CAPABLE OF REVERSING HEAVY DAMAGE AND ILLNESSES?each revive takes another sapient being's soul albeit
>>738362276>forces wol to do adventual favors for payouts
>>738362351man this game sounds like shit im glad i dropped it after ARR
>>738362463>put on the banana hammock, warrior of light
Do I understand this correctly? Paladin is the only tank remaining a tradition tank. All of the other ones have been elevated to a true blue dps that occassionally throughs out party buffs?
What will they do for evolved RDM?Will they remove the entire balance element?
From what it looked like in 1.0 you weren't the "hero" or main character, and instead it looked like you were a side character while the npcs were the main characters and heroes.
>>738347080Thousands of flaming homosexuals can't all be wrong, can they?
>>738362576The 8.0 tank is designated main tank too.And I think it should be looked at more the way you distinguish true healers from barrier healers.
>>738362576Paladin is getting a very heavy hitting counterattack seemingly intended for tankbusters, 8.0 tank will assumedly get one too since it's also an MT, we don't know what OTs will get
>>738362604Not quite. For the first part of the story you're getting Echo visions of people 10 years prior, basically setting the stage for the real story. After you join the Scions you become the main character because the Echo power to translate languages is extremely rare and they need you to facilitate communication with the beastmen.
>>738362576The new 8.0 tank is also MT. And if they fuck up balance and enemies are too weak it'll be smarter to roll whichever tank does the most damage instead of mitigation. So at least one tank job is going to get fucked in 8.0, guaranteed.
queue for the interphos on crystal please and thank you
>>738362179
>>738362576>a tradition tank >throughsI have been running so much occult crescent that I literally became retarded. Fuck you Yoshipiss.
>>738362457why the fuck is extra souls suddenly extra one ups when voidsent still go down like bitches when they're hoarding a chunk of souls? and they're not even the funny hydaelyn crystals that revive you mid battle like free phoenix downs, they're fucking revives and can heal lethal wounds.up until the regulators the setting was pretty firm on how it dealt with souls and none of what it did was free revives. in fact any revive that actually worked came at extreme costs that weigthed much more than just "one soul lol"
>>738362604The gist is the same as it is in 2.0 really, you're stumbling into a bigger plot and turn out to be important enough thanks to the Echo to be relevant for surviving Primal fights. You end up being the one that goes and kicks the ass of the person trying to bring down Dalamud, but ultimately it's too late to stop it. Difference is the story didn't get far enough to really do anything with it past that, and back in 1.0 the Echo was a lot more complex versus the lolhandwaves it got in 2.0 til Stormblood and Shadowbringers added more to it.Echo genuinely had you time traveling in a weird way where you couldn't affect the "script" of fate, but you could grab items from the past that weren't important as dungeon loot. So the later time travel bullshit in the second game actually has a thesis to work from, even though they nerfed Echo into the absolute ground til we started creationmagicking barriers out of our asses.
>>738362604Perfect game for a Wuk Lamat.
>>738362785I assume the regulator one is a resuscitate, whereas when you take a voidsent, you've already chipped away at its totality, multiple souls and all in the process.
>>738362693Ameliance playing the shit out of this avaricious cunt only made her more attractive.
>>738361932>>738362008The Gerolt clone was going to be your relic guy before one of the rewrites.
>>738362604it was literally the exact same plot progression from ARR>(you) are new bumpkin trying to be boukensha>doing chores that would eventually have (you) noticed by plot characters>slowly started getting dragged into the plot
>>738362179Rowena's Casting Couch of Splendors
>>738347080No, XIV was like a very shitty XI that ran like ass.
>>738363031Feels that way.
>>738362835In hindsight I'm now realizing that up until shit hits the fan and Gaius gets much more hands on in the conflict, 2.0 is literally just "what if we did 1.0 almost exactly again but finished and then you actually fight the Garleans directly instead of letting them walk all over you". Really the only oddity at that point is all the lingering 1.0 plot points, events that happened, lots of shit that awkwardly doesn't get recontextualized in certain cases as having expected players to know what happened prior or given very loose summaries at best. Shit wasn't just an apology but a soft remake in a new style.
>>738362785Voidsent become an agglomerate of souls and their corresponding mentalities, regulator 1-ups are a total departure of the original soul and a total replacement of it with a new one that's had the user's memories forcibly written onto itIt's better than Raise (which in FFXIV is just smelling salts, basically) but has a metaphysically evil and objectively much higher cost along with a whole slew of ethical quandaries regarding personhood. It isn't actually reviving anything, it's forcible injection of a new soul and corresponding memory data into a freshly dead body
>>738362576It's going to be about as impactful as the regen/shield healer split. As long as duty finder is random (and you can queue for extremes and savages in jp through that), they're not gonna make the difference so consequential that you run into trouble having the 'wrong' jobs.People are overblowing the change way too much. Going by history if anything, pld is going to be shit and doing double off-tanks is going to be better just like how sch sge is better than trading one of them for a regen healer.
>>738362604
>>738362945makes sense. though I'm surprised there's no voidsent invasion of Alexandria given that they have a free food buffet inside that fucking castle and there's this whole solstice going on right now.
>>738349157nice and empty lmao
>>738363227Not him, but this guy from 1.0 still hasn't been resolved other than showing up as some flashback in the Alex raids.
>>738363240The souls used by regulators have their memories ripped from it so those memories can (or could, before) be brought to Living Memory to be put on life support there. What remains of the soul then without its memory is little more than a battery. A charge - the spark, so to speak. In practice.
You know, I find myself worrying a bit. We're working on resolving all these issues, including one day restoring the void.But what would be lost in the process? Voidsent are so anchored in the fantasy of the world, as is the void itself. If that was all returned to something more akin to a normal shard, I feel like you'd kind of lose out on a part of the XIV setting. The part where these doomed souls feasting on the life force of the innocent are a recurring enemy.
>>738363483Not that they can actually Cataclysm this game ultimately since nothing but some loose scenery and weather ever changes in this game. If they had the balls to do the Solstice and actually, permanently change the game world then I'd applaud them for the audacity at the very least, but that point you're basically making a new game.
>>738363240shit this is even worse than I imagined it. but it still doesn't answer how the dead body gets healed up by simply reloading the soul.in Pandaemonium Athena tried to pull a similar thing by using Cocytos to hoard souls, and shat out soul simulacra of Lahabrea and her literally not useless son.Given how wild the Lifestream is I doubt it is happy with the regulators scrambling soul memories around.also doesn't the used up souls go back to the lifestream and get their memories back, like it happens with everyone that died? we'd have a lot of angry souls in the lifestream mad about being used up like whores.
>>738363483don't worry anon. we had a god-like aether controlling machine and it will still take hundreds of years for the empty on the first to be habitable
>>738349157Thank consoleniggers for that. Every time a game is designed with those poorfaggot nogamebox phoneposters in mind, it suffers for it. Inferior control scheme, that is followed by an inferior UI design and it cripples game mechanics in turn, since they need to be optimized around functioning in tiny cramped cells. That means no abilities with too great a range and also no verticality beyond "It looks like your character jumps".
>>738363359Surely they'll use him in Evercold, right?
>>738363483Same way there can be blasphemies and sin eaters still roaming around their respective worlds long after you've dealt with things in shb and ew. With voidsent can always write them as rogue entities that don't want to rejoin civilization or something.
>Quest right before final trial>WoL needs to choose whose tent to crawl into for warmth
WOLVES OF COLDOH SO COLDOF OUR CHILLY WESTWINDS
>>738363707WARRIOR DO NOT GO INTO Y'SHTOLAS'S TENTSHE WILL HATEFUCK YOU FOR STEALING HER SHARD TRAVELING THUNDER
>>738363712Hydaelyn... easy on the crystals...
>>738362583I imagine Fleche and/or Contra Sixt is gone, Verthunder and Veraero turn into Verfire and Verstone when you have their buffs, melee combo is a gap closer and one button, and the party buff is gone
>>738363556>Given how wild the Lifestream is I doubt it is happy with the regulators scrambling soul memories around.The Lifestream doesn't seem to care all that much, though Alexandria's also completely overtaken the Lifestream, the Everkeep at large performs a similar function as a closed loop of souls and memory scrubbing. Iifa Tree from FF9 reference.>also doesn't the used up souls go back to the lifestream and get their memories back, like it happens with everyone that died?Last I checked no, souls consumed are consumed. The Everkeep is facing reproductive problems between the lack of available souls and the aether imbalance in the area. Note how hard the game glosses over the fact that Alexandria is eating souls, in general, not just for Living Memory. It was a pretty big and horrible deal that Terminus monsters created by Meteion were capable of deleting souls!
>>738363554I don't expect rejoinings, but I want to believe Zero and Golbez's efforts will eventually pay off. But part of me hopes that never happens.>>738363574Fair point, I suppose. Thinking of it that way, The First really is given all the tools for restoration while Zero and Golbez are just left to putter around a bit.>>738363653Blasphemies?
>>738363712is this what it means to gorge yourself on the mother crystal.
>>738363712gonna tsunder that buffet
>>738363885A TEST OF YOUR REFLUXES
>>738363556>still doesn't answer how the dead body gets healed up by simply reloading the soul.It shouldn't, I don't think. A person is made up of three base components. The corporeal aether, which is the body, which would still carry a wound unless it's mended, the incorporeal, which is the soul itself and the memory. Ordinarily, the soul and memory are joined, but Alexandria separates them for this purpose. So you can see the soul by itself as the spark of life, whereas the memory is the personhood. Which is why I assume it works at all.But yeah, giving the person a new soul should basically reanimate them, but it shouldn't necessarily reverse the state of their corporeal aether.
>>738363783Give me Verwater and Verblizzard, Tamaki
I do kinda want to see the WoL/scions fuck up at one point and maybe cause an issue in evercold to prove halmarut right that you can't just murderhobo your way into solving the rejoinings.
>>738361264Sphene and about half of the Arcadion cast.>>738362179Do we even know why she wants tomestones so much? And I doubt they're getting rid of Poetics so her crew will still collect those.
>>738364173>Do we even know why she wants tomestones so much?She sells them to collectors.
>>738364074lmao they didnt even have the balls to have them beefing with each other in Wuktrail
>>738364173Tomestones are worth a very high amount of money, collectors hoard them along with research companies like Cid's Garlond Ironworks and Sharlayan
>resub >have to reorganise my hud I almost regret resubbing
>>738364236Shouldn't your HUD settings be saved somewhere on your PC?
>>738364194>>738364232If it's just gil, then why can't I just trade gil for the shit I need from this bitch.Stupid.
>>738364280Because the tomestones represent an impossibly high amount of gil you can't fork over
>>738364236didn't you save your character data?I was able to recover it from the character select screen by right clicking on my character's name, but I genuinely don't remember if this was done manually or not
>>738364280Because engaging in commerce with collectors and the influential improves her ability to supply and market things, retard
>>738363974>reanimating only the corporeal aether - zombies>reanimating only the incorporeal aether - ghostsso they should be "immortal" because they're ghosts being fed souls, basically. Not unlike a voidsent.funny how this isn't touched at all.>>738363873...or that Wuk Lamat is ok with her stepmom getting her soul deleted. From what I know once the memory part of the soul fucks off it's deleted unless someone stores it, and since we shut off the memory banks. that lady is as dead as Hydaelyn.god damn that scene where a bunch of thavnair citizens got turned into monsters hits harder because every single one of those monsters from kid to old lady are straight up dead dead. shit was hitting so hard even G'raha had to stop being a fanboy to control the situation.
>>738364304>>738364335Then alternatively then why can't I just sell them to collectors and get the impossibly high amount of gil and "influence" myself?I always thought there was some deepest lore reason that Rowena needed tomestones, I am beyond disappointed right now.
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>>738364385Find the collectors then dumbass nothing is stopping you
TALES OF PEEEAAACEEE AND LOOOOVE AND HAPPINEEESSSSSSSS
>>738364272If you don't save character data you're hosed. I had to do the same thing last week, only to realize a backup I made from two years ago got deleted at some point to clear server space, so I had to redo everything from scratch.
>>738364384>From what I know once the memory part of the soul fucks off it's deleted unless someone stores itCalyx is doomed to oblivion yet he still wants to "help" despite getting his plans foiled. I wonder if memory aether can be replicated for intinite calyxes or is it impossible to duplicate?
>>738364512Kind of looks like Preach
>>738364509I'm not a dumbass because the game has inconsistencies.
>>738364581>I wonder if memory aether can be replicated for intinite calyxes or is it impossible to duplicate?Not memory aether, but memory data can. Like Eternal Sphene is basically memory data of real Sphene, while real Sphene is still alive with her memories latched to her soul as it should be.But it's funny that you ask this about Calyx, considering the story very heavy-handedly beats you over the head with the notion that Calyx, of all, was heavily against duplication of memory data because it dilutes the sense of self.
>>738364614That's because you were hearing, feeling and thinking with me!
>>738362417Mud wrestling in lower lominsa?
>>738364669You're a dumbass for not pointing out an inconsistency
>>738364898The inconsistency is that if Rowena needs gil, I should be able to exchange gil for her loot. If the gil I have is not enough, but she's selling my tomestones for gil that IS enough, then I should be able to sell my tomestones for gil to then buy her loot or whatever I want. Are you following anon? Stop defending this dumb shit.
