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What's with the revisionism? I was there when GTA 4 launched, and the consensus was that it felt like a downgrade from GTA SA.
It had no fun vehicles, no fun weapons, no activities, an uninteresting world and horrible vehicle handling.
It's not a bad game, but let's not pretend it's some hidden/underrated Masterpiece. It's just the weakest GTA entry of the whole franchise.
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They were 12 when it came out and thought it was "peak"
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Indians seem to love it for no reason. Same with Fallout 3.
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>>738354212
>It's just the weakest GTA entry of the whole franchise.
>when 5 exists
6/10 decent bait, got me to reply
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>>738354212
>It's just the weakest GTA entry of the whole franchise.
1 and 2 suck way more but for 3d gta games you're right
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Imagine that OP, a guy having his own opinion
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>>738354212
why the Vice City HUD?
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The vehicle handling was great, what are you talking about? They had weight and felt like whatever car you picked actually mattered. Also, the online free-roam mulitiplayer was the perfect format for the game, and I will die on that hill
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>>738354212
> it felt like a downgrade from GTA SA.
That was some time later, the hype was huge if you were actually there when i was going to launch
>It had no fun vehicles, no fun weapons, no activities, an uninteresting world and horrible vehicle handling.
Vehicles were more grounded and were made considering liberty city is smaller than sandreas, the handling is fine for me but thats a popular meme so whatever, the complaints about the more gritty ambience were adressed in gay tony anyways
>It's not a bad game, but let's not pretend it's some hidden/underrated Masterpiece. It's just the weakest GTA entry of the whole franchise.
Lmao no, that spot goes to V lukewarm cringy story, gameplay sitting in the fence taking the worst of two worlds, starting to bend the knee to censorship and greed (gta online), zero story dlc, and became a cashcow so rockstar sheleved all their ips and stopped experimenting.
Compared to gta sa? Yes is inferior due to less content and personal preference, worst gta? lol no
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>>738354212
Stop watching people pretending to have opinions on a monetized video site. Why does your generation keep falling for this shit?
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>>738354212
I was there too. You're not wrong that at first impressions it felt like a downgrade. Especially the smaller map, and the more serious and darker tone.
But vehicle handling and physics were great and allowed for some really fun + funny shit that wasn't possible before. And the map while smaller was a lot more detailed. GTA 4 felt like a downgrade at first but it grew on you. At least that's how it was for me.
While the darker and more serious atmosphere was also perceived as a downgrade at first, the entire cast (not only Nico and Roman) also grew on me.
GTA 5 on the other hand really is garbage and has aged like milk
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>>738354212
GTA4s missions are fucking terrible
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>>738354212
GTA 4 has plenty of merits but my God if it isn't a boring game 60% of the time and what made GTA 3 to SA fun just isn't there.
That being said, the guy is most likely fishing for easy clicks and engagement. The vid taking 2 and half hours is a good sign of this since you could discuss everything worth discussing about this game, its development, reception and legacy in under an hour.
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>>738354212
Fucking based, I share the same consensus. 4 put such a bad taste in my mouth that I avoided its sequel.
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>>738354212
the forced either-or ending was really stupid
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>it's shitter than gta sa because i can't play dress up and get a haircut
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>>738356637
That's your rebuttal? Try again, kid.
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>>738354292
>They were 12 when it came out and thought it was "peak"
i've noticed the same thing happening recently with Fallout 3, TES Oblivion, and the Star Wars Prequels
Contrarianism + Nostalgia + "the latest entries are worse"
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Poor kid had to grow up with xbox 360
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>>738355660
Just wait for 6 and then 5 with be the next masterpiece
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>>738354212
gta chinatown wars is the best gta. 4 is a close second.
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>>738354212
I'm playing through gta 4 right now. What a horrible experience.
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>>738357347
go back to fortnite.
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>>738354212
Yeah it was pretty boring. "Mid" is a great word to describe 4.
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>>738354212
>It had no fun vehicles
Neither did San Andreas unless you really liked driving a combine for that one mission
>no fun weapons
Neither did San Andreas unless you think melee implements that all do the same thing are the pinnacle of fun.
>no activities
San Andreas sidecontent would be considered ubislop tier today
>an uninteresting world
San Andreas map despite being small nowadays is bloated as fuck with wasted space
>and horrible vehicle handling.
GTA4 driving is 5 minute hurdle at best and anybody that complains is a casual.
GTA4 is the better sequel to GTA3 than San Andreas ever will be. And the resloppening of the franchise that happened with Ballad of Gay Tony is a tragedy.
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Because we matured and realized that GTA 4 has more strengths in storytelling and atmosphere than overall gameplay, and a good game isn't determined by the gameplay itself but what it's trying to present.
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>>738357019
F3 is good
Oblivion is good
The atar wars prequels
Im tired of pretending these arent good
You either are a retarded boomer who only likes episode V because its "nuanced"
Or you dont like the prequals because you think citizen kane is the best movie ever
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>>738357490
you're trying too hard
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>>738354212
Yeah. Physics were fun tho
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>>738354212
Yeah it's a lot like V, it had nice graphics at the time but all of the SOVL was ripped from the game.

I'm glad VI is returning back to RPG mechanics
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>>738354212
I recently replayed GTA4 with that next gen graphics mod and driving physics mod and it was fucking awesome. Also Ballad of Gay Tony is the best GTA ever made.
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>>738356637
there's clothing stores in IV though
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>>738354212
I don't care what your nignog consensus was.
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>>738354212
Ps360 generation and their strange nostalgia for mediocre games they played first
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>>738359213
I recently played gtavc mod for 4, and this shit is ridiculous you do 8m circle when turn on a scooter. I am pretty sure it uses vanilla settings for vehicles
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What is so great about san andreas?
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>>738358484
Lmao
You were a literal child when f3 and oblivion came out, so your opinion on those doesnt matter at all
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>>738361164
Educate yourself, broccoli head
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Zelda cycle applies to many games. People (if you call zoomies people) will pretend that everyone loved GTA 4 when it came out. The dogshit driving and awful toll road faggotry with bottlenecks? The heckin' pinnacle of video games. You also see this in things like Bioshock, where Infinite was so terrible people started acting like the sequel was the greatest game of all time and not a huge downgrade from the first game.
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>>738354212
>the consensus was that it felt like a downgrade from GTA SA.

Only negros thought this.
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>>738361164
wiggers worship niggers
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>>738354212
i agree with the first part, but after playing and beating them all again it has the best story if you include the dlc and it's not even close
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>>738354212
zoomers are discovering pseudo intellectualism, just like how we did.
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>>738354212
I played it and thought it was a decent game. Haven't played San Andreas so maybe it's better idk.
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>>738354212
>I was there when GTA 4 launched
No, you weren't
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>>738354212
Realizing that an opinion you held in the past was wrong is not "revisionism".
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>>738354212
What are the chances people are gonna start making video essays about how GTA 5 was actually an under appreciated masterpiece after GTA 6 comes out.
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>>738361352
>educate yourself
>the education: yoyo grove street nigga finna busta a cap in dem ballaz
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>>738354212
>What's with the revisionism?
The problem is with you allowing YouTube video essayists determine the general consensus. You are stupid. Accept that.
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>>738354212
the yugoslav war got popular on tik tok and it was paired with indians making
>think like a manly brilliant
edits about this guy killing people
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Just had the urge to do the ol' reinstall a gta and try to mod it out, did v to use some npcai mod where you can talk to people as a police officer, was fun fora bit, wouldnt recommend teh headache of modding. beamng is more satisfying when you chjase people and they crash but you dont get that LA nightcrawler feel.

>>738363640
the war was popular on tiktok?
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>>738354212
The babs who grew up with it grew upper
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SA made me want to be a hood nigger, 4 made me hate slav ziggers
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>One guy disagrees with me = revisionism
What's up with all the annoying faggots on the internet now? Things were this bad 20 years ago.
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>>738354212
I think GTA SA was overrated. For no particular reason at all I always hated CJ, he's honestly the worst protagonist in the series with exception to maybe Franklin who I also hate for no particular reason
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>>738364458
GTA 5 made me want to be come a white trash trailer park hic.
GTA 6 will probably make me want to fuck a latina
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>>738354212
I played it for the first time last year, and thought it was good.
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>>738357019
Oblivion is good though, way better than boringass Morrowind, but not better than Daggerfall though. Oblivion's the funnest to fuck around and do stupid shit.
E1 was fine, if stupid. E2 is retarded and mostly lame with some good moments. E3 is legit good, but not better than New Hope and Empire, prolly better than Jedi though.
Dont care about fallout.
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>>738354212
Game is boring as fuck. Gunplay is laughably bad. I don't get the hype aside from the tech
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I had a lot of fun with GTA 4. The multiplayer with cops and robbers was cool too.
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>>738361164
Its map design is the best out of all the GTAs. Fun to fuck around in also and mod it.
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>>738354212
It is the best driving over people simulator
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>>738363640
I am so glad I have never used that shitty app. The dumbest and worst people seem to exclusively go there.
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>>738354212
zoomers are old enough now to have nostalgia for all the crap people thought was disappointing in the 2000s like gta 4 or the star wars prequels
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The physics were incredible (barring a certain swingset), the gunplay was the best it had ever been, NPC behavior was the best it had ever been, story was decent, expansions were God tier, and the driving was satisfying when you mastered it.
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I was 16 when it released and it was shit.
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>>738364865
but enough about san andreas
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>>738354212
This is what we are dealing with.
Attention seeking retards who post intentional "ragebait" contrary to the existing opinion in order to gain attention; which in turn then becomes the status quo opinion. Which then prompts the next set of retards to post the original position in order to get "ragebait" those who have now accepted the new opinion.

It's just low IQ retards all round.
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>Erm that thing everyone shit on when it came out? It's actually a masterpiece
Why is this everywhere on Youtube now
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test
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>>738354212
Holy fucking ZOOMER

The hype and critic hype for GTA4 were INSANE

Fucking journalists were SUCKING THE GAMES DICK beause it had "tough moral choices" which we later learned to just be stupid kill/spare decisions

With that said I enjoyed the game on my PS3. Was a novelty for its time even though I did try to play Vice City on my PC before (I quit at the RC helicopter mission, fuck that)
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>>738354212
It's weird that people are pretending like the game wasn't received as a bit of a letdown but I did like it. atp I think 5 is the worst but everything you mentioned were legit critiques when it came out
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>>738354212
a 10 minute video who's content is contained in the title is bad enough but a 2 and a half hour one is an affront to our shared humanity
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>>738367204
I hope the first person view in GTA 6 is proper this time. 5's was terrible.
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>>738354212
Both 4 and 5 sucked.
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>>738354212
I thought 4 lacked content until 5 released and realized there are things that mattered more than more vehicles.
Also VC is a fucking masterpiece eventhough the map is small as fuck and had even less content than 4
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>>738354212
Zoomers discover old games and act like experts on them, thinking they are smart but in reality they just want to flex their mediocre presentation skill and writing to get those youtube money. Thy think they're being quirky about having le autism but that makes them nothing less than retards who some how survived getting bullied at high school because the society is being too soft on these mentally challenged cretins who feel like they need to express their retardation to the Internet.
In other words, you're watching tourists' contents
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GTA4 kinda sucked because of the input lag and crappy driving, but I remember enjoying the expansions and I actually thought the controls felt better in TBOGT. It was and still is the odd sheep of the series but zoomers will hype it up because they were like 6 years old when it came out.
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>>738355680
Literally came here to say the opposite. The mission where you rescue roman was more emotionally engaging than most video game plots. Niko was the most sympathetic protagonist gta ever had.
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>>738354212
>it felt like a downgrade from GTA SA
not really. the features it didn't bring over were just replaced with different features. like yeah you couldnt customize your car but now the game has super good ragdolls, that's how I saw it. the game story was also like a playable HBO show which was the hottest shit at the time.
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>>738354346
>5 being weakest
>when sa exists
ngmi
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>>738367508
It's definitely jank city, I remember when the first person mode was officially released how wild it looked, all the fags here were going wild about it too there is no denying that.
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4 is the one that made me drop GTA but I can see the appeal. They just pivoted to another audience from 4 onwards.
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>>738354212
lmao 5 is dogshit
even some of 4's supporting characters are way more memorable than Franklin
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i hated it because the guns all feel like shit and had obnoxious amounts of spray
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>>738354212
It's what this anon said >>738354292

>>738354346
This is the only cope IVfags have, because while 5 is shit IV was an incredible let down as well.
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>>738368593
The only thing memeroable about Franklin is him getting insulted. Why did Franklin suck ass when they already nailed CJ? I blame that nigger from Star Wars. The safe nigger.
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>I was there when GTA 4 launched
You weren't, GTA 4 was the first game in the series where the graphics blow everyone's minds, it was a new console generation and everyone was hype. 3, VC and SA looked liked absolute dogshit even for the time, but everyone gave them a pass because having a 3D open world like that was so novel and fun. The physics are still amazing to this day, you shoot a cop in the kneecap and they will stumble down and as they try to get back up they might grab a nearby wall or something for leverage, no other game does this even to this day.
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>>738354212
It feels like zoomzooms only played gta 5 and fortnite and rockstar is now treated like the zoomers god tier developer. Any unc would know Rockstar fell off and gta 4 was the start of their downfall. But for real I don't think even content creator wants to say bad things about them anymore, if you do you get hundreds of rockstar drones yelling at you. "provide 500 reasons why the game sucks" etc
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>>738354212
>It had no fun vehicles, no fun weapons, no activities, an uninteresting world and horrible vehicle handling.
But realistic graphics trump all of that
>It's just the weakest GTA entry of the whole franchise.
The first 3 are worse
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>>738354212
I don't know a single person in real life who dislikes GTA 4.
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Gives me deja vu to those times where i used to get wasted and drive around toronto testing out my gfs new camera in industrial places
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>>738354212
>It had no fun vehicles, no fun weapons, no activities, an uninteresting world and horrible vehicle handling.
GTAIV was innovative and Saints row/GTAO retained all of the stuff people liked about GTASA
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yeah those daysw ere kino
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>>738354570
Zoomers think that controls are bad if it doesn't have schmooovement like Ultrakill where they can slide, parry, and dropkick at any point in time with coyote time
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I was there when GTA IV launched and it was well received. Of course we noticed that you had more things to do in GTA SA but IV didn't feel like the worse game. It's story and atmosphere was awesome. The Soviet Connection Theme was my ringtone for many many years until all mobile phones went silent.
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>>738354212
The calling people to hang out elements still feel unmatched desu
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>>738354212
>see retarded shit like this pop up in the recommended videos panel
>never click them
>instead of going away they just stay there forever on every single video
>have to explicitly block the channel to get these recommendations to fuck off
>on videos i actually want to watch it immediately pauses 2 seconds in and i have to click "yes i want to continue watching"
thank you jeet software devs, what wonderful contributions to the world they make.
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>>738364635
>for no particular reason
Anon, you can say you don't like black guys here.
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>>738354212
Do zoomers really watch other nasally zoomers drone on about things neither understand for two good damn hours? Or is this like all media they consume and just put it on in the background while they watch TikTok and shit up the rest of the internet?
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>>738354212
San Andreas is so clearly the best GTA that it genuinely seems weird to me that there isn't near-universal agreement about it.
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>>738370680
>NAHT YET
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>>738354212
I always liked it a lot, but I did miss some of the crazy fun stuff from the earlier games, and the real estate purchasing. It was the start of Rockstar's SERIOUS NO FUN ALLOWED arc though.
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>>738354212
I know this may go over your head OP, but GTA4 is appreciated more today than back when it released because it is an excellent snapshot of American culture that existed in mid 00s.
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>>738354212
It's there most mature GTA. It's a unique entry and I don't know what you're smoking about the reception, it's the best rated GTA ever. It has its flaws but your premise is wrong
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>>738354212
because its not the newest game in the franchise so the hate moved on to 5, you'll get '5 is underrated' posts once 6 is out. its just the cycle of contrarianism

personally I liked both 4 and 5 but I'd say VC and TBOGT are my fav setting wise and SA is the best content wise
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>>738371492
it was despised on /v/ back then
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>>738364856
>Oblivion's the funnest to fuck around and do stupid shit.
Opinion disregarded and thrown directly into the shitter.
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>the consensus was that it felt like a downgrade from GTA SA
It was, but who is this coming from? background: EA buys the engine that powers all the previous mainline GTAs, wants a huge licensing fee/knowledge on how Rockstar utilizes it

On a mechanical level, the downgrade part is kinda-sorta true. RPG elements from San Andreas were massively downscaled.
>no transfender/lowrider shop
>no gym
>significantly less clothes shopping options
>body stats
>weapon proficiency stats
>driving stats
>boat cars
V brought back some, but not all of these.

Airplanes were actually not kept out of IV because of terorrism concerns, it was that the engine could not keep up with LOD.

"Go here/Kill this guy" was extremely tedious in the latter half of the game.

>>738354570
handling.dat files were among the most popular mods for IV when it released on PC, fyi

>It's just the weakest GTA entry of the whole franchise
I disagree, what about LCS/VCS? Nobody talks of them, but they are the lowest rated because some of the characters (e.g: Toni's mom) are straight up ridiculously cartoonishly evil. That and Chinatown Wars/GTA Advance, which even I haven't played.
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>>738354451
A guy enjoying video games!? better screech reviosionism and call him a zoomer!

this is just modern /v/, nobody here likes games and its all just angry goylennials.
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>>738370680
kek why are they like this?
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>>738361164
Content, gameplay that isn't linear, ability to tackle things the way you want to, variety in vehicles and travel, clothing, better cheat codes, by far the best map in a GTA game, etc.
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>>738361546
>Only negros thought this.
>actually everyone thought journalists were trustworthy and not paid for
Your nose is showing, kike.
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>>738354212
This has literally happened with all the shit games from 15-20 years ago. Every single one.
Dark Souls 2, Twilight Princess, basically all the brown-and-bloom shooters, the list goes on and on.
You know why? Retarded zoomers who played these games when they were 5 years old suddenly are old enough to think their shit opinions are correct. But they're not. These games are garbage and zoomers will always be retarded.

>>738372364
Case in point. This is one retarded nigger.
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>>738366126
Normalfags have ruined the internet.
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>>738372513
Buckbroken shitlennial only proving my point, just kill yourself already or join your xisters in the next israeli proxy war getting blown up like you were doing in iraq 20 years ago.
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>>738372364
you mean like you whining in the other thread about majora's mask?
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>>738365737
>posts the same engagement bait article
shitlennials are the most self-absorbed generation of manchildren ever produced, also the most cucked statistically which is why they fell for the "weapons of mass destruction" meme KEK
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>>738357019
Now that you've spotted it you'll never unsee it. It only gets more noticeable over time.
>Everything was at its best when YOU, the viewer, were 12 years old!
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>>738372685
Oh yeah you're the goy who kept (unintentionally) being retarded and repeating himself, what a sad state of affairs you are.
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>>738371151
I agree while I prefer to replay GTA 3 the most simply because it's more easily to the point. SA is definitely the best game Rockstar has ever made. I'd say it's not universally agreed to be the best because zoomers are turned off by the game because it's "old" and older gamers are retarded and can't self insert (lol fucking cringe) as a black guy.

>>738371297
>GTA4 is appreciated more today than back when it released because it is an excellent snapshot of American culture that existed in mid 00s
I think GTA 3 does this far better.
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>>738361164
GTAV 10 years before but with soul for your zoomer brain.
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>>738372316
>what about LCS/VCS? Nobody talks of them
That is mostly Rockstar's fault. They never ported them to anything other than a dying PS2 and no one really seriously plays it on mobile. You can find the same EXACT type of videos on both of those games on youtube praising them. VCS is a superior VC game IMO as well but I'd wager about only 15% or so people played it out of the total VC audience.
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>>738371541
I don't think it's all that liked these days. I don't see /v/ talking about it much. Regardless, people just appreciate it more now because they understand that GTA V wasn't better in a lot of ways. Less is more to put it simply.
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>>738373012
>I don't see /v/ talking about it much
there are gta4 threads on here every single day
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>>738354334
Easy to add in child warrior friendly mods for aq/isis/hezbollah recruiting campaigns
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>>738354334
No, San Andreas is definitely the third world game of choice
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>>738361304
Lmao
You were a literal child when Fallout 2 and Morrowslop came out, so your opinion on those doesnt matter at all
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>>738370107
Zoomers love this game anon, I say this as a zoomer. It's m*llennials that are seething about the driving lol
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>>738358484
>Oblivion is good
>>738364856
>Oblivion is good though
Oblivion's leveling system makes it literally (literally) unplayable though.
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>>738354212
>>738354292

Eternally relevant.
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>>738357140
Peak era for vidya. I feel sorry for millennials that had to grow up before games got good
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4 was awful. why the fuck would i want to play as some lame fresh off the boat slavnigger?
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>>738354212
>What's with the revisionism? I was there when GTA 4 launched, and the consensus was that it felt like a downgrade from GTA SA.
it's literally the highest rated videogame of all time, the only people who complained about the lack of retarded crap like dildo weapons or gym minigames were retarded hue monkeys and slavic subhumans grasping at whatever straws they had
driving is good too, it makes car chases unpredictable
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Lol remember getting excited for it back in the day, I played it for about 20 minutes and dropped it, what a disappointment
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>>738354292
>>738360235
That's literally this board with SNES/PS1/PS2 era slop. I'm BEGGING millennials to have the slightest ounce of self awareness
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>>738354212
>consensus was that it felt like a downgrade from GTA SA.

no it wasnt like that at all you fucking retarded russian samp fucking nigger too fucking poor to buy gta4
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>>738373394
Lol low IQ filtered
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>>738365212
>all the crap people thought was disappointing in the 2000s like gta 4
It's literally the highest rated open world game to this day, but ok
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>>738373619
Turdie melty after playing a cuck sim a decade later
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>>738366126
If by ''everyone'' you mean retarded millennials who got filtered by the driving and never got over it lol
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>>738368601
Literally the best feeling gunplay of any open world game to this day, ESPECIALLY coming off the shitty gunplay of the PS2 games. Seriously, what the fuck are you talking about
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>>738373707
>zoomers now unironically pretending GTA4 is a difficult game that "filters" anyone
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>>738369064
GTA IV to Max Payne 3 was easily the peak of Rockstar
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>>738373707
Zoolatto turdie praises its cuck sim
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>>738354212
For me its best story in series, no i did not played this game when i was teen
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>>738373840
Lol total flops no one touched, cope harder
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>>738373810
>literally half the posts are millennials seething about the driving being too hard compared to San Slopdreas
Yup, filtered
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>>738373695
>>738373915
What the fuck is this mentally ill baldllennial talking about? Anybody know?
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>>738373964
Zoolatto turdie jeetoid picking up and eating old crusty slop
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>>738374000
Lol baldy pubehead put on a hat, even your mom thinks you're ugly
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>>738373584
Another soillennial who got filtered by the driving lol. Back to your PS2slop you go
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>>738373964
....ok retard whatever you say
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>>738374047
>>738374085
Least mentally ill soillennial unc
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>>738374103
Zoolatto rummaging through garbage to find some old slop to eat
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>>738373549
>>738373642
Why do you keep being a "muh ratings" nigger when that was one of the key points people constantly brought up when it came out? It was like Halo CE getting near perfect scores from journalists. It was nonsense back then.
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>>738368729
Nah, IV is fantastic, soillennial
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>>738374139
Seethe poor, keep pretending that you played games
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trvke
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>>738374213
Jewstar jeetoid trying to earn a cowdung
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it's shitter than gta sa because i can't play dress up and get a haircut
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>>738374175
>>738374285
Lol I mindraped this soillennial so hard he's repeating himself
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>retard can't even quote properly
Not even giving out a (You) faggola
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>>738374213
>IV is so good, you can uhhh... drive and then drive... and then load up a 3 hour youtube video and drive.
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>>738354292
lol not really?
i was 12 and i distinctly remember how 'meh' we felt with the game after all the fun we've had playing gta sa at our homes/school
it also didnt help that we were coping with niko being a serb instead of wishing he was a croat or even a ruski
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>>738374379
Rapemade ghetto jeet seething after getting laughed at for being poor
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>>738354212
It was generic brown grey and boring.
I liked that one Russian sounding song though it was catchy.
The story was awful. The controls and gameplay sucked.
It lacked any sense of humour that had made Rockstar what is was at the time.
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>>738374436
>SA is so good, you can uhhh... drive and then drive... and then get le whacky pink afro and drive.
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>738374501
Alright, no more (You)'s my mindraped mentally ill friend, go have your melty in the corner
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>>738374518
>NOO WHERE IS MY WHACKY PURPLE DILDO

Controls and gameplay are the best in the series and mog the shit out of SA

>It lacked any sense of humour that had made Rockstar what is was at the time.
It's funniest Rockstar game actually
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>>738354212
Because we didn't understand how it worked and were dumb kids
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>>738374563
>faggy zoomer thinks his 2deep4u storyline is amazing and thought provoking
kekkkkkkkkkkk you'll never have actual issues in your life zoomie, stick to watching pretend "problems" on youtube
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>>738374625
Rapemade turdie crying because no one likes its old cuck sim
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>>738374790
You strike me as a very low IQ millennial
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>>738374682
>>738374857
Turdie can finally play a 20 year old cuck sim on it's stolen ps3
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>>738354212
GTA 4 is a very good story that's unfortunately tied to a mid shooter and a weirdly heavy and sticky driving game.
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>>738374932
The shooting and driving are peak tho, far better than San Andreas
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>>738375441
Rapemade buckbroken by san andreas
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>>738354212
I just played through it recently after sitting on it for a decade and a half. It was fun. Not quite VC or SA but I kinda consider it a different beast like V anyway. The city is fascinating and I like driving around and getting immersed, and the story was refreshing, though that's probably a more subjective take than anything. I just appreciated the darker tone. Still been booting it up just to camp the cluckin bell in star junction and fuck with the cops.
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>>738354212
Everyone hates everything until they don't. Humans are creatures of spite and malice.
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>>738372750
you mean like you were just now?
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>>738375641
Game is a boring cuck sim, lmao cuck cope
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>>738370680
Why can't they just act fucking normal and not shit on everything they stand and sit on
How hard is that?
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>>738354410
fucking zoomers
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>>738372316
Chinatown Wars is cool :(
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Happens all the fucking time man. People are sucking off RE6 now when at the time it was so shit that it almost killed the series. Then Revelations 1 & 2 and Resident Evil 7 made people think that the franchise is going back to its survival horror roots and leaving "action packed shooting" behind.
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>>738372316
No haircuts either which is crazy
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>>738354212
I always hated GTA4
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>>738354212
A retarded shituber glazed it. Still got mega mogged by V
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>>738379098
How much money have you wasted on shark cards lol
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>>738379250
Never played online, not worth it when SP exists. If I wanted grind without story would play...not online.
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>>738354212
I was reading some reddit posts and retards say it has a realistic story that they couldn't grasp when they were kids but can somehow understand it now, whatever that means.

its just another case of nostalgia for the worst entry
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GTA SA was the worst one
GTA IV is the best one
Sorry for the reality check, but you needed it
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>>738354292
It’s the other way around. We kids really liked San Andreas. The 4 was a disappointing because it removed so much and replaced it with some gritty cover shooter story bullshit we didn’t care about as kids. The only fun part to us was blowing stuff up with RPG and enjoying the silly physics of shot flying to the moon. Other than that the 4 was a downgrade to us in every way. If anything it’s the people who play this game more recently as adults are the ones calling it good, because sure, compared to the slop of today it has a better story and world, but those of us who were kids at the time didn’t give a fuck about story.
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>>738379582
I started playing video games as a miserable old decrepit fuck: The opinion.
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>>738367949
I watched this it was so pathetically surface level I was confused also most of these guys review the game in its modern updated form while saying “this aged great from 2004!”
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>>738367949
Those sloptube vids are so funny because if you play the games, all this shit is very basic and completely obvious yet these retards are explaining it like it’s some divine revelation. The thing is there are enough braindead retards who are happy to just passively waste their time that these vids are profitable.
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>>738381298
Oh and the worst part is these videos drown out the fewer ones that do really provide interesting insights even if you played the game.
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>>738379582
Based, San Andreas is a good game but it is overrated as fuck. It's the FF6 of the series
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The worst part of IV is that there’s nothing to do in the open world other than hunt pigeons. A very boneheaded decision that made no sense even at the time.
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>>738354212
The only people who say IV is the best GTA are the people who play GTA games once and never touch them again.
Apart from the fancy physics, wanted mechanics and AI and story literally everything else is a downgrade compared to previous entries and V. Even the fucking radio stations are the weakest in the franchise...
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>>738357019
Naruto revisionism is a thing too now
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>>738357019
You’re implying that it isn’t the same with every generation. All those things you mentioned are good on their own merits and only pissed off crusty old boomers who were mad it wasn’t the same as the thing they liked when they were 12.

Nostalgia will always elevate certain works in a person’s mind immensely, but people without that nostalgic link won’t feel as strong about it, even IF they like it.
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>>738357019
>TES Oblivion
This isnt revisionism, people fucking loved oblivion at the time. Why do you think every RPG marketed themselves as "the next oblivion" for years after
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>>738383579
Same shit as skyrim, it hit a completely different audience that loved it. Most fans of morrowind/daggerfall didnt like it
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>>738356637
This but unironically.
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>>738381868
Filtered
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>>738381672
you can call your homies and hang out
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>>738383579
>>738383651
If anything, Oblivion and Fallout 3 have had the inverse reception over time. Upon release, they were both widely regarded as masterpieces, but now they’re generally considered flawed and divisive games that are still good, but have aged poorly in some ways.

A similar thing happened to Bioshock Infinite, although that case was even more extreme because Infinite is considered trash and mostly forgotten nowadays.
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>>738354212
Yeah I'm with you. Not a bad game but 100% downgrade from what you could do in the game.
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>>738384119
they were masterpieces. they just couldnt stand the test of time as well as their predecessors.
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I skipped 4 and tried playing 5 when it was given away for free. That's when i realized that this series has shit controls and is not fun to play in the slightest. Dropped it after the intro for how horrid it is to move around and shoot in that game, absolute garbage.
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>>738384234
Standing the test of time is a requirement for a masterpiece.

I do think both FO3 and Oblivion are both excellent games that have stood that test better than most, but their gameplay was mediocre even for their time and the writing is considered a noticeable weak point in both. I would categorise them as great games with considerable flaws — flawed masterpieces, if you will.
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>>738357649
>Mature storytelling
>Better go over to the internet cafe called Tw@t and get my next mission in this super serious game for us grown ups
This was GTA IV's biggest flaw. It's clashing story which tried to be more serious doesn't work in this hyper-satirical look on American society. Our main character is a child soldier from the Serbian War trying to find the guy who sold out his child soldier group in Liberty City who gets wrapped up in various organized crime groups all while in this world is filled with whacky goofballs who are a mockery of America.
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>>738367949
It's just easy money for someone who would otherwise be sweating over a grill or some other shitty job
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>>738368737
>I blame that nigger from Star Wars. The safe nigger.
GTA V came out in 2013. Two years before Episode VII
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>>738384567
I do think IV’s seriousness outweighs its goofiness overall. But I agree that the game feels like Rockstar wanted to do both The Sopranos and South Park and couldn’t fully pick a lane between the two.
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>>738361164
The fact that it essentially did the plot of V before V and did it better. Big Smoke and Tenpenny are great antagonists on either side of the law.
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>>738361164
mostly likeable characters. then also a varied map with lots of stuff to do. and while there are some good chars in gta4, the map is severely lacking
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>>738384845
I’d hesitate to say that V really had a plot to speak of. The story feels like it went through an insane number of drafts and they ended up throwing in bits from all of those drafts rather than making a unified whole. I expect VI’s plot to be even worse in this regard considering how long it’s been stuck in development hell.
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>>738384567
So would you say GTA as a franchise is goofy and satirical?
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I was there when it came out though and it was a masterpiece.
Yes, some people did think some aspects of it were a downgrade from SA, like no planes, map variety, fun equipment, car customization, property ownership, character customization.
But the story, atmosphere, and environment were masterful. Car physics, collision damage, npc damage was amazing.
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>>738372316
>handling.dat files were among the most popular mods for IV when it released on PC, fyi
Not necessarily because it was bad, I used one of those on PC as well to make the driving even more realistic.
It had the best driving by default of any GTA.
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>>738354212
it's not as good as SA but it's more of a sidegrade. GTA4 is great when you just look at it as a physics sandbox. the npc reactions feel very realistic (especially as a kid) and the game feels almost to have a life of it's own unlike GTA5.
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>>738386134
Goofy might be too extreme, but unserious satire is definitely what it is. I found GTA V was too mean spirited that made me not like the whole. Vice City to me was that perfect balance of being a satire while still keeping some level of seriousness to make you care. San Andreas was being a bit too "super cereal" about the ghetto stuff and police corruption while at the same time your buddy Big Smoke made random deal with the Russian mob and you're now having a Terminator 2 transport truck parody chase scene. What made San Andreas great was it being open world with no loading screens splitting up the regions which was big for the time.
>>738387278
Yeah GTA IV feels more like a simulator showing off what they can do with that current gen of consoles and then ditched all of it in GTA V. The Euphoria engine was so cool in how it made characters react getting hit or when falling.
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>>738354212
opinions...le change?
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I remember having a feeling in the pit of my stomach when I realized it didn't have planes parachutes or anything fun to interact with, it was purely a spectacle I had to sit still for.
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>>738387948
Don't forget being forced to hang out and play minigames with the various characters to keep their bonuses. So fucking stupid.
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>>738354212
I’m an elder zoomer(26). I played the 3D era games to death. When I got around to GTA4 I also got Saints Row 2 and it was like night and day. Sure 4 was impressive for what it was but SR2 was a lot more true to the PS2 era. Back then people a bit more critical of 4 than today. How it’s bland looking, too serious, and pushed annoying realism mechanics like friendships. Also heard the term ludonarrative dissonance a lot when it came to 4.
Anyways here’s a trailer of SR2 poking fun of some of 4’s criticisms at the time https://youtu.be/oKNp13NyRts
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>>738354212
No revisionism, GTA 4 has always been great and it holds up to this very day.
The Shark Card shop is that way champ, it should be more your speed
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>>738361164
A vast amount of varied content with different interesting locations, colourful characters, interesting missions and things to do completely outside the story.
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>>738388887
SR2 is what GTA stopped being.
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>>738354212
>the consensus was that it felt like a downgrade from GTA SA.
lmfao people were SHITTING THEMSELVES over how realistic gta 4 was. fuck off zoomer
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>>738354212
>horrible vehicle handling.
only plebs say that
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>>738354212
All of the GTAs are nigger tier games
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I mean the complaint that there was less to do with your money was true. The driving is the worst in the series, but I recall the story and other aspect of gameplay being great. I was also 19 when it came out before some troll wants to say I was in middle school or some shit.
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>>738357019
>Star Wars Prequels
https://youtu.be/9vePR-euOxo?t=4
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Anyone who bitches about IV being shit because it was "worse than SA" is a faggot and the reason the series died. Because of this fucktarded "criticism", R* went on to make V, that was a downgrade compared both to SA and IV. You didn't have the same variety of activities as SA, and they've dumbed down everything about RAGE that made IV great. Oh, and the retarded A, B and C ending, because people were a bunch of piss babies that IV, a game that was meant to be doom and gloom didn't have a "lived happily ever after" ending and you had to make a hard choice, oh no, anything but bad feefees in a game where I play as a psychopathic maniac.

To this day V feels badly watered down in every aspect compared to SA and IV. The world feels emptier, the story is garbage, the three protagonist gimmick only makes the entire experience even more diluted, there's even less realized potential than in SA, and also the map itself sucks ass, even compared to SA. So what's it's big when there's nothing to do in it.

If anything, anyone who says IV was universally hated on release is a revisionist contrarian. People disliked the narrower scope compared to SA, yes, but the vast majority of complaints were due to the GFWL requirement on PC and how bad the PC port was. Besides that people generally loved IV, from the fact that to this day RAGE with Euphoria still holds up insanely well, to the fact that the story was one of the best in the series. Dan, Sam, Leslie and Lazlow finally realized their dream game and it worked out really well.
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>>738393045
V is the natural progression of the shit game that was IV, IV niggers ruined GTA
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>>738393256
>i am going to be an abrasive cunt and that'll make me cool
Yeah yeah have your (You) little /v/tard, meanwhile I'll go enjoy playin' IV while (You)'ll keep seething over vidya instead.
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>>738354212
revisionism isnt when someone likes something you dont.
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>>738354212
This is the only GTA I've never finished. The characters were just way too fucking obnoxious to stomach.


I don't remember people thinking it was a disappointment though, I remember people hyping it.
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>>738354212
GTA IV made a lot of sacrifices to make the core gameplay mechanics; driving and shooting, not mediocre. SA has superior variety, but IV locks into the things you're actually expected to do.
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GTA type games take the cake for the most aged poorly award.

GTA3 when it came out was the most mind blowing game ever, a paradigm shift in gaming.
Then you get VC and SA which were good but just rehashing 3...then 4 and 5 are just bloat slop and the same exact thing as 3 but better graphics, less creativity in storytelling/characters, pointless filler slop
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>>738394340
Also SA's variety was rather forced and rushed. See: Blood Ring and Driving School. Doing a 100% in SA is misery because of how unpolished some of it's activities are. Even devs like Obbe agreed that during SA they tried to do everything and it resulted in a chaotic mess, and for IV they've purposefully narrowed the scope to have a polished final product.

Which then bit them in the ass because gamers are ungrateful entitled pricks and expected GTA:SA 2, which is what they've tried to deliver with V, only to be worse than both SA and IV. I shit you not, handling in SA is more realistic than in V. And people love to bitch about IV's handling when in V every car was glued to the ground and you could do 360 spins while going forward in sports cars. People just love to run their mouth through nostalgia glasses and not actual memories of how these games were.
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>>738394792
>Muh realism
Yup, the cancer that killed GTA. Added bonus of bitching about gamers like a basic plebbit bitch
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>>738394936
The point is that SA had the right balance of realism and arcade fun handling, IV steered hard into the realism which split people, and R* overcorrected with V by making the handling so arcadey it's comically bad to drive in that game with how glued to the ground everything is. If they copied the balance of SA it would've been fine, that was an optimal solution everyone liked.
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>>738394207
>I don't remember people thinking it was a disappointment though, I remember people hyping it.
Nah it was shit on and rightfully so. Technically smaller map with less things to do and less weapons. It's why in >>738388887 Saints Row 2 took that disappointment and made an ad campaign about it to show the actual fun stuff you can do in their game.
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>>738357490
Correct.
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>>738361164
No idea. Never finished it. Dropped it shortly after plot moved to the 3rd city.
Frankly, the only GTA I ever finished was the 2nd one. And played 2nd one after I've played Sun Andreas.
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>>738357490
>Neither did San Andreas unless you really liked driving a combine for that one mission
Uhh bro the harrier? Planes in general? The attack chopper? The tank?
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Never got to play SA because my parents caught on to gta being bad by then but they stopped caring by gta 4. Anybody else with this experience?
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>>738354212

4 and 5 were both very 'meh' tier. They were released during the times that the world first really started going to shit. And they were both the games that started taking away what made the GTA series great in the first place.
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>>738354212
>I was there when GTA 4 launched, and the consensus was that it felt like a downgrade from GTA SA.
>It had no fun vehicles, no fun weapons, no activities, an uninteresting world and horrible vehicle handling.
this, not to mention it's fucking new york city, walking and driving around nyc fucking sucks, and gta 4 is no different
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>>738396603

In my case it was my mom being one of those hardcore Christians. Shit I was barely allowed to play Pokemon. But she lightened up a lot by the time SA came out.
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>>738354212
Gay tony is better then gta 4. I never hear someone say bad about gay tony
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bad about gay tony
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>>738361164
KROSE (for when the horse shoots you in the back)
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>>738400841
Ended up never playing Gay Tony because I could never get through the base game slog.
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>>738354212
At least it's not the pile of shit that GTA V was
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>>738354212
I called "they fucked next one even more". Microsoft love to do this
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>>738403418
You can jump straight into it, the references to the base game are pretty minor
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>>738354212
when it came out it was compared to san andreas and vice city
now it's being compared to gta 5 and nothing
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Nico was kino and you're wrong if you disagree. Also 4 had the best car damage modeling of any piece of media ever made. I enjoyed taking an ambulance and whipping it sideways into power poles or downers to crush the middle of the frame like an accordion
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>>738354212
it clearly was rushed to get ahead and release something 'realistic' for those consoles as a testbed for what they had planned already later (gta v).
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>>738354212
xbox playing retards are now old enough to be nostalgic about garbage
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>>738354292
I'm not a very nostalgic person so even though GTA IV is part of muh childhood and it was a 10/10 to me back then, playing it now I think it's more of an 8/10.
It's a solid game but it's not some kind of essential masterpiece.
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So can we all agree that Trilogy Definitive Edition was an absolute abomination?
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>>738405056
Yes we can!
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>>738405056

Apparently they've made s shitload of changes and it's at least palatable now. That being said I'm not giving them a dollar for it because they outsourced it to jeets and plus like half the soundtrack is missing.
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>>738405803
Plus they deliberately took all other versions off all online stores.
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I really enjoy the beginning of GTAIV, I don't know why. It becomes boring the more your progress.
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>>738354346
Nostalgia faggotry aside 5>4>3>SA>VC
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GTA1/2:
>Bladerunner in concept art
>actually it's more like bri'ish gangster movies and western car chase films with some irl shit peppered in like the Glasgow ice cream truck wars
>innovative enough to launch the franchise
>tastefully edgy
GTAIII/VC/SA:
>The Godfather/Scarface/Boyz in the Hood/Colors
>masterpieces, only improves with each entry while retaining the same simplistic identities
>everyone has a favorite here
IV:
>no cinematic influence
>feels refreshing and new
>as far as modern experiences go you feel fine and at peace here no need to tread further
V:
>no cinematic influence
>feels uninspired and childish
>abandoned, soulless, empty, feels unfinished because it is
>despite being completely overhauled the most amount of times by the original studio
GTAO:
>fortnite for edgy fortnite kids who think they're too edgy for fortnite
VI:
>narcos with 420x more niggers and fortnite
VI online:
>ow my balls
ok bye
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>be a good game
>mentally ill poorfags think it's bad because it doesn't have halfassed pseudo-rpg elements and can't play it on their favelapcs
>same mentally ill poorfags seethe about it nearly 20 years later and think it's a psyop when someone disagrees with them.
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>>738354292
I believe it. Same zoomers think 3D GTA is unplayable because the graphics bad.
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>>738354212
>and horrible vehicle handling.
no
the physics and little details of gta iv were absolutely incredible at the time and sorely missed especially when 5 came out and it cheaped them out or simplified them

the soft suspension of cars was kino of the highest order
very different than 3 saga, but really cool and fun to interact with

if they made a 3 sage "crazy" gta game again but retained the physics and details of iv that would cool as hell

I also wouldn't mind them leaning less into realism and more into cinematic style and atmosphere instead of a more "generic" america simulator
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>>738393256
>>V is the natural progression of the shit game that was IV
I don't see how. Even if you don't like IV, they clearly put a focus on expanding the core mechanics like the combat, driving and AI with a bigger focus on physics and smarter NPCs which were all dumbed down in V. V also had a way worse map where half of it is empty and unused in the main story.
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>>738354212
I played this game in 2012 1 year before gta 5 release (didn't even know gta 4 existed btw just speaks volumes that it wasn't popular and not that interesting, I still was playing San Andreas and VC) and I never ever touched gta 4 ever again and never will. The story just isn't good enough to justify me play it ever again
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>>738354212
>and horrible vehicle handling.
Aaaand there it is...
Opinion discarded.
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>>738354212
This isn't revisionism. We know GTA's 12 year old ADHD fanbase hated it. People with souls appreciated that they tried it tell a real story for once.
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>>738414468
>they tried
Yeah they tried but failed
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>>738354292
fpbp

also the most retarded console kid generation thanks to Microsoft marketing
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>>738367949
>thinking they are smart but in reality they just want to flex their mediocre presentation skill
that nothing new, what the fuck do you think the AVGN and Nostalgia Critics were?
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>>738414784
AVGN was entertaining
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>>738357019
I can't wait in 10 years when alphies are nostalgic about Grow a Garden and Steal a Brainrot and you'll see videos with how they're unmatched masterpieces that are hours long.
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>>738354212
>and the consensus was that it felt like a downgrade from GTA SA
I don't remember agreeing to that. Sure, there's less activities and stat-PG elements than SA, but Euphoria was a major upgrade. And there wasn't anything out with that amount of detail. In all honesty, I probably did more goofy shit with the physics on GTA 4 (like shoving grenades under cars, getting on the car and flying away with the resulting explosion, or flying around in the helicopter and bailing out, or bailing out from rooftops, or blowing myself up on top of a building to fly off) than I played the San Andreas activities or flew around in the jet.
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>>738407531
>no cinematic influence
kek it’s a direct copy of 90s russian mob films like brat 2
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>>738354212
I liked it because it was a sober story which made Saints Row feel like a wacky successor
>>738354334
Based India but they still smell bad.
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>>738410873
zoomer play roblox and minecraft lmao
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>>738407531
>>no cinematic influence
Oh brother
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>>738407531
>>738415681
and GTA V is the big blockbuster movie parody, where does he get the "no cinematic influence" thing from, it's ALL MOVIES.
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>>738367949
the fuck is that thing?
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>>738354212
>masterpiece
no it wasnt, i was in high school when it dropped and it was mid. it was cooler reading about it in gaming magazines.
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>>738407531
>feels unfinished because it is
it does have 3 DLC that were supposed to come out but were canceled because online got so popular, but the real reason it feels unfinished is because they had to cut out a lot to make it run on crap like ps3
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>>738415853
>is that.... an angry slav in a tracksuit?
>omggggg it's literally this movie!!!
>>738367949
>these flat rectangle hallways with occasional rectangle pillars that open up to an outdoors rectangle really feels like a real city
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>>738373634
Exactly playing oblivion on max dif and never levelling up is the most chad thing to ever do right now
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>>738373394
That's funny, I've completed it multiple times without having to resort to cheating or mods. Why are you bad at videogames?
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>>738354212
I remember people being upset at the smaller map and not all the extra features like stats carrying over from San Andreas , but the physics and vehicle handling were praised back than. And over time people realized how much more detailed the map was compared to San Andreas and I honestly think 4 has the best writing in the series especially when compared to 5 and other games that'd come out since than. So I wouldn't call it revisionism but more people are appreciating what gta 4 was going for and how it did it well.
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>>738417594
>has the best writing in the series
t. retarded zoomoid who likes third grade story telling
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>>738354292
More like 5
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>>738354212
>What's with the revisionism?
What is this ESL newfag talking about? GTAIV was a massive success.
>>738354334
>Indians seem to love it for no reason.
How the fuck do you know what Indians like and don't like, cocksucker? Do you live in India? Kill yourself.

>Thing you like now bad but also watch this video on jewtube
No, blow me you fucking retards.
I am going to play GTAIV again, it was the most immersive.
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>>738417852
You say this as if the vast majority of GTA games don't have third grade story telling. Even San Andreas, a game I love, has clear structural issues.
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>>738418593
>I am going to play GTAIV again, it was the most immersive.
Damn I think a lot of people care about this
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GTA 6 has a secret character you unlock by getting the ending that kills both Lucia and Jason and you play as Lucia’s mom instead
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>>738418807
No shit it's gta but gta vice city had the mafioso aesthetic to it but very limited (you barley interact with Sonny). Gta 3 had it for a bit too. The characters are italian too which is cool. If rockstar would make a mafia like story and keep all the gta elements it would be the best
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>>738414729
>also the most retarded console kid generation thanks to Microsoft marketing
Sis, GTA SA is the best selling game on the PS2, aka the third world normie console
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>>738354212
It has the best story and writing of any of the GTA games and actually feels like it is about something. Every other GTA game, including V, just feels like a random excuse to make fun of American/Pop culture, which is fine, but none of the stories are really about anything. 5 especially feels almost like a season of South Park or something.
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>>738419091
They are saving her for the liberty city dlc
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>>738419263
t. retarded zoomoid who never played gta 3
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>>738407531
At least R* drew inspiration from kino classics.
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>>738419372
anon read your pic, you're not supposed to play GTA 3
it doesn't want you
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>>738354212
>erm this heckin' opinion video goes against the consensus opinions I follow blindly? This is heckin' problematic
'llenial moment
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Niko and Roman are fairly well written characters but everything else about IV kinda sucks. The Saint's Row and Just Cause series were better.
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>>738354212
Your post is historical revisionism.
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Reminder that we will probably have gta 6 for even longer than we had 5 since there’s plans for dlc stories and expansions instead of entirely new titles along with an evolving live service multiplayer
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And here come the zoomoid posts before sleeping to go to school
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>>738419636
anon... zoomers are 30 years old
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>>738419675
Not all of them retard
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>>738354292
>>738354334
FPBP and SPSBP. It all makes sense now, kids and jeets love this fucking dogshit game because jeets love the story of a successful immigrant to the US rubbing shoulders with superior whites and being liked by them, and zoomers love it because games you play as children impact you differently, even if they're terrible.

I still vividly remember being super hyped for 4 and just staring blankly at my TV while the "realism" GTA played out in front of me, it was actually the day I felt gaming had died and become movie simulators. The first two Saints Rows always felt like true successors to GTA for me, so they sorta saved me from bailing on gaming entirely.

Still never played 5 and never will.
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>>738361164
It’s boomer hype. GTA:SA is garbage. Horrible gunplay and tiresome early 2000s thug culture. Really only something a boomer of that time can look at and not cringe. People pretend it’s peak to some inexplicable reason.
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>>738419827
>GTA:SA
>early 2000s culture
Told you zoomoid posts are coming
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>>738419981
Yes. Setting the game in the 90s means jack shit. It’s a part of the 2000s nigger culture cringe.
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>>738420196
>early 2000s nigger culture the same as one from 90s
>I didn't live to see either one of them
>still know it
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>>738374285
Jewstar hates GTAIV, the fuck are you talking about?
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>>738420304
>pic
Your generation is so fucking gay
Like 90s nigger culture is any less cringe
GTA:SA is unplayable for anyone who isn’t an old wigger
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>>738361164
This guy says it best >>738354292.
GTA SA is the Skyrim of its generation, and that's not a good thing. It's from an era where console retards think QUANTITY = QUALITY.
Anons like >>738364973 and >>738372432 mention the map and the content, but the reality is that GTA SA is too big for its own good. The vast majority of the game will be spent in four cities, and the countryside is there, occasionally being used for a mission, but enough to actually be worth of something. Then there is the content itself: GTA SA is GTA Collectathon at its worst. It's not fun. It wasn't fun in 3 and VC and its not fun here. The game goes down the shitter midway when they exile you from Los Santos and the game never picks up because Smoke and Ryder are more charismatic than CJ and his friends. The missions are absolute dogshit because the gameplay is incredibly jank. It sounds awful and is awful to do. They try to make up for it with dual wielding... but all the guns still sound like toys, which is a shame because GTA 3 already perfected the sound effects. Someone brought up stats, but that shit is meaningless in the long run outside of running. Even worse is that the game WILL NOT PROGRESS until you have lung upgraded, that shit does not belong in GTA.

GTA SA is just The Sims 2 for little console kids who want to play dress up. It does a terrible job of calling back to 1992. They just give you an early '90s best-of-hits radio and call it a day.
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>>738354212
it's the most chaotic GTA to fuck around in, largely thanks to the slippery driving and weird ragdoll physics. also had way more fun online multiplayer than 5.
the missions aren't as over the top fun as the previous games, though TBoGT gets close.
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GTA SA feels more like 2003 than it did 1992.
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fuck off, gta iv is peak
I was 13 when I played it and I still think about it
https://youtu.be/WRWtvbyprgo?si=HG52tKPZWK-hVQOu
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>>738414468
This but replace "tell a story" with "evolve the open world gameplay"
Unfortunately Rockstar made the cars and police MORE FUNNY AND RANDOM for GTA V.
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>>738354212
>It's just the weakest GTA entry of the whole franchise
That's GTA Advance for the GBA
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>>738354212
You should judge a game by what it offers not by what it doesn't
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>>738420906
To be fair Bernie wasn't gay when Nico first knew him.
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>>738415526
>Sword fighting tournament
>Most of clone trooper's games
>A pirate's life
>Robloxaville
>Roblox battle
>Zombiecon
>Defend shedletsky from zombies
>Cave to retards begging to actually get paid for making games just so the company doesn't go bankrupt
>An endless sea of cashgrabs with gambling mechanics engulf the platform
Have not played in years but man it's painful to see.



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