https://x.com/Wario64/status/2052191448171213116
>>738359801Who
>>738359801NYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
don't these niggers just make pachinko machines now?
>>738359801That means we won't see a game till 203+ but at least we are getting new games.. perhaps zoomies and alphies will have something to look forward to unless it will be tainted by "modern standards" hope is all we can have
>>738360173I don't get it why do people careWhat is this ip
>>738360239Best RPG slop
>>738360349Why do we care
>>738359801They bought the rights to the first 5 games, not the whole IP which still belongs to Drecom.What's interesting is that Atari bought the company Digital Eclipse in 2023, who then released a (licensed) remake of Wizardry 1 in 2024. So most likely Atari plans to make them remake the other games.
>>738360401Play Wizardry 8 and you'll understand
>>738360774Okay
>>738360519If it's anything like the DEI-fest of the first remake, no thanks.
no one under the age of 50 cares about this ip
>>738359801What. The. Fuck.
>>738359801these games all have d&d shit, right? random stats, weird terminology, and other such esoteric bsrespect to the OG, but I'm not into that
>>738360934wizardry 6-7-8 still hold up
Zoomers are afraid
>>738359801WHAT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>738360093
>>738359801Irrelevant company way past its prime acquired irrelevant IP way past its prime.Nothing of value will come out of this.
>>738361878Why is Wizardry irrelevant when it's the foundation of every WRPG and JRPG ever made?
>>738359801>"Atari"
>>738361993It's irrelevant because it's not the IP, it's the ability to release garbage demakes of the old games that nobody will play because zoomers can't handle dungeon crawlers and anyone with any interest in the series will play the originals or more modern titles.
>>738360821Retard.
>>738362586No u
So Wizardry is no longer Japanese?
>>738359801Oh boy, I can't wait to pay $20/mo for a subscription service to play Wizardry 3.
what the fuck is "Wizardry Variants Daphne" and why is it called that
The Wizardry anime was cool
>>738364052>what the fuck is "Wizardry Variants Daphne"One of the best dungeon crawlers youll ever play marred by a gacha system on top of an excellent single player game.>why is it called that¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>738364093and the patlabor parody episode(s)
>>738364052>WizardryIt's a Wizardry game>VariantsIt's actually not a Wizardry game hence "variants">DaphneDaphneez nuts nigga lmao
I'm surprised Atari still exists, much less buying rights to anything.
>>738364052Wizardry Variants Daphne is a mobile phone gacha that you can also play on Steam. It apparently plays very poorly, to the point of needing to alt-tab to shut it down, but you could.It was called "Wizardry Variant" when in development because it was supposed to be a variant on Wizardry, namely the gacha formula instead of a typical single dungeon in a straightforward game. At some point, the Daphne name got attached to it, hence the full name.>>738359801This explanation is very strange. Who holds the trademark? Who allows or denies people the ability to make new games with the Wizardry title? You'd think this would be one company, and so "selling the IP rights to Wizardry 1-5" sounds very strange. Who has the rights to Wizardry 6-8? Who has the rights to, say, Wizardry: The Five Ordeals?What about Nemesis: The Wizardry Adventure?
>>738359801I don't buy it. There's absolutely no fucking way that the japs would let go of Wizardry in any form after they were able to take it fully for themselves, and just a reminder OP: always put an asterisk next to Atari's name. They have no right to ANY of the credit tied to that name.
sick. can't wait to play this on my vcs.
>>738360239>never played the classicsCome on anon grab DOSbox right now & go at it m8
>>738360239You have to be 18 or older to post here.
>didn't buy the 3 best games in the seriesnot interested
>>738360519They're going to stop before tackling the Dark Savant trilogy? Bit of an odd choice.
>>738364631>who has the rights to wizardry 6-8A japanese publishing company bought them (specifically so they could make a gacha game, hilariously). I guess they are the ones who sold them to Atari. SirTech still technically "owned" the rights to the older games and just licensed them out to whoever wanted to make a game. I guess they've both sold out to Atari.
Daphne is really good, so I don’t know what any of this means.
>>738364631>You'd think this would be one companyhaha why would you ever think that
why not the dark savant trilogy?
>>738360208No, atari has actually been doing unhinged reboots of everything they can grab for quite a while now. Some of it is good.
probably a good thing if they plan to do something with them but the games will probably be $40 remasters was probably inevitable since they own nightdive and nightdive re-release the old games, they also have the rights to putt putt and pajama sam iirc>>738360239>What is this ipone of the OG rpg series, very influential especially for jrpgs even now dungeon crawlers copy the formula
>>738365762> I don’t know what any of this meansfor DaphneGODS? nothing
Wizardy games are all too far into the unfair random bullshit side of things. Etrian Odyssey and SMT are nowhere near as bad.
>>738365762It means Atari has a minimum standard for Wiz 9.
>>738360239
>>738359801quick rundown?
>Kex engine ports of 6, 7 and 8>easily transfer party save to the next game
>>738366290>Wizardy games are all too far into the unfair random bullshit side of things.
>COME HOME WHITE MAN>COME HOME WHITE MAN>COME HOME WHITE MAN
>>738366634>controller support
>>738359801>Atari buys the rights to wizardrydoes this mean i have to have sex now?
>>738367091>whack ass 3D Japanese only version of 7
Wizardry, Rogue, and Ultima are like the Newton, Einstein, and Da Vinci of gayming.
I was thinking of getting into this series with 7 cuz I heard its got build autism which is the kind of thing that makes me stim.
Whats the best modern blobbers bros? Preferably ones with settings that aren't generic fantasy or J-fantasy
>>738366634They only bought the rights to the first five games, doofus.
>>738359801I only know ATARI because of FNAF.
>>738359801I wonder how the japs will be effected by this. Atari is actually super lax with the ips they have, so this could be a good thing and we may see some of the jap exclusives get translated.
>>738360934Japs do.
>>738364052It's just some sort of gacha trash that people tend to bring up in dungeon crawler threads because it has Wizardry in the title.
>>738361878Modern Atari is doing more interesting shit than sony or microsoft.
>>738364774>They have no right to ANY of the credit tied to that name.Maybe 20 years ago, but NEW new Atari is actually trying to do something with these ips, even if its just a holding company of sorts. More than Microsoft has done with Activision or EA with all they have devoured over the decades.
>>738367795>Atari is actually super lax with the ips they haveWeren't they anal about Blood?
>>738368038Not aware of that. All i know is that they hand out the rights to stuff super easily, atleast for actual Atari stuff.(they let a small company officially re release a fucking Nuon game and made a fan 7800 game into an official game they produced) Maybe there are certain ips that they are more strict about.
>>738367983Fucking no. Atari Inc are some of the filthiest fucking scumbags on the market, and any bit of good comes in the form of a brief desperate turnaround when their bevy of scams and exploitation nearly puts them fully into the grave, and then they immediately return to such fucking bullshit the instant they're not at death's door again. They have been some of the biggest douchebags in the industry, ever since their GT Interactive days.Frankly their entire staff deserves nothing less than to be flayed alive and to have coarse sea salt pressed into the wounds
>>738368156I remember they didn't allow Nightdive to completely patch Fresh Supply. Refreshed Supply is the more accurate version, but it's a title that you need to buy separately if you already own Fresh Supply.
>>738359801Cool that means the full pentalogy will get remade by Digital Eclipse like the first one?
Wizardry is fucking finally American again?
>>738368448Of course not, thank god for that, keep your mutt hands off my good Wizardry games faggot.
>>738368537That's sad, I can't believe the retarded slants still own one of the cornerstones of American gaming. We should have nuked them harder.
I don't understand why Japan would do this. I thought they loved Wizardry it's like the foundation for their jrpgs.
>>738367795they only got the rights for the first 5 games. not the whole ip.
>>738359801Okay, cool. Now remake Raptor
What has atari even been doing the past few yearsHave they published any new games
>>738359801WOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOATARI GOTY 2028 INCOMING YOU HOT CATS
>>738368616>>738359801For the record Atari only bought the Werdna Saga, aka the first Five games.Wizardry 6, 7 and 8, plus the 39 Japan-only official Wizardries and Wizardry-related games are still with Drecom, the company that currently runs the Wizardry IP overall.
>>738359801They're still around?
>>738368814It's harder to believe that Atari somehow won Xbox in console wars.
>>738368872So Daphne is still in gachahell?
>>738368910No it's a European hedge fund wearing the corpse Infogrames. It's like "THQ" Nordic.
>>738369096>>738368910Only Microprose got a proper revival
>>738368998Yeah.It's been a huge success for Drecom, which is why this feels like it came out of nowhere.
>>738369192desu if its just the old titles then it makes senselet another dev do something with the classic and extend out with your own jap flavored style
>>738359801In some media, it has been reported that Atari SA (hereinafter referred to as "Atari") has acquired rights from Drecom Co Ltd. (hereinafter referred to as "our company") regarding the IP "Wizardry" in which the Company holds domestic and overseas trademark rights, but there is no such fact. We have no intention of selling the rights of the trademark rights of the "Wizardry" owned by the Company in the future.The Company has been informed by Atari that it has acquired the rights of the fifth work from the first installment of the "Wizardry" series by the original rights holder.We will continue to maintain domestic and overseas trademark rights in the "Wizardry" series and manage the brand of "Wizardry" IP.https://drecom.co.jp/corporate_news/2026/05/20260507-01.phphttps://x.com/drecomofficial/status/2052256124989305086
>>738367829Even in Japan, nobody under the age of 50 give a shit about Wizardry. Caring about Wizardry in Japan is the equivalent to caring about Dragon Quest in the west. It means you're a crusty old fuck who plays old games.
>>738359801Buy? With what? Surely not money.
How does Atari still have money? Who the fuck keeps them in business?
>>738369486Naito Yuki, President of Drecom:Some overseas media outlets have published misleading reports suggesting that Drecom sold the rights to Wizardry to ATARI, so we have officially released our company's position on the matter.We have previously received notification from ATARI that they have acquired the rights to Wizardry 1-5, but there is no fact of our company selling any rights related to Wizardry, nor do we have any plans to do so in the future.On the other hand, as our company continues to manage the Wizardry brand under domestic and international trademark rights, we intend to address challenges such as the fact that past works cannot be played in the current environment.Additionally, we aim to work even harder than before to promote the Wizardry IP widely to many people through games, novels, comics, anime, merchandise, and more.https://x.com/no7110/status/2052261175677837749
>>738368814It's super fucking complicated and there's no easy tldr>get completely fucked by the ET video game crash>get divided into two companies, one of which gets acquired by Namco>the other merges with JT Storage, which goes bankrupt>Hasbro buys the latter half as part of the bankruptcy>then Midway buys the former off of Namco, but has to dissolve it because of trademark conflicts with Hasbro>IESA buys Hasbro and gets Atari, renames itself Atari Interactive >Midway goes bankrupt, Warner Bros buys their Atari, becomes Atari Games, then Warner Bros Games (yes, the one that made the Arkham games)>a subsidiary of IESA decides to also rename itself to Atari (why?) and is a completely different company from Atari>IESA buys out this Atari, and now calls themself Atari SA (this is the one in the OP)>there's a second subsidiary of former-IESA in Australia that also renamed itself to Atari, then renamed itself again to KromeThe original Atari's properties and licenses are currently scattered across a half dozen different studios.The Atari in the OP (Atari SA) spent most of the 2010s making smartphone casino apps and made its own cryptocoin in 2020 to fund it. At its peak the coin was worth $0.70 and is now at $0.000183. This blunder got their CEO fired and the new guy shut down all the Atari casinos and has been reinvesting in classic games. Since then, they've been releasing HD remasters of every game they have the rights to on Steam (System Shock, Outlaw, a handful of Star Wars games, Rollercoaster Tycoon, classic Mortal Kombat, The Thing), and funded a handful of indie games like the new Bubsy games.
Is Wizardry IV good or shit?
>>738360519>Digital EclipseWho would buy a leaking anus?
>>738359801
Wizardy IV is some tedious kaizo ass bullshit
benis
Who the heck is weirdna
>>738371523Main villain of the first four games and protag of the fifth.
>>738369507I play old games because games were better back then
I really just want a full modern Wizardy game that has the aesthetic of Daphne that's not gachasludge
>>738371972Sadly, gacha was the only way to fund it.
>>738359801How is Atari still a company with the funds to acquire anything at this point?
>>738359801Did Atari Aquire the Rights to Legendary Wizardry RPG or something?
>>738359801Is Atari a new (old new) EA?
>>738359801Atari is still alive?
>>738359801Where are they getting the money??, who gives money to a company who's normal state is bankruptcy.
>>738371972>>738365762>>738364052>>738371972Jinkies!
>>738369486>>738370487IP corporate drama
>>738364195>One of the best dungeon crawlers youll ever playwhat makes that entry so good?
>>738370830your jap games exist because of Wizardrythe reason you are on this board is because of Wizardryknow a little history, you Ameritard
>>738374246>>738368910>>738368814who do you think runs Nightdive and Digital Eclipse?
What's your guy's personal favorite Wizardry and why? For me it's Wizardry 5. I loved all the systems it added while keeping the core gameplay the same, and it's a good balance of quirky and weird while still feeling like a serious fantasy adventure. I'm thinking of playing 6 next, but I've on top of enjoying 1-3 and 5, have also really liked Wizardry Gaiden 1 and 2, though I would definitely say Gaiden 1 was better than Gaiden 2 overall.
>>738359801>excited to bring them back through the creation of remasters, collections and new releasesR.I.P. the originals
>>738365206DOS era tiddies
>>738360401Gee I dunno, why would /v/ care about games getting raped?
I remember in a youtube essay on this series that quirk chungus aspect of the games never got translated in Nippon, so the games we're basically just turbo grimdark for them.
>>738367830Its genuinly good but at the same time kneecapped by the gatcha part.Being in first person and watching your party attack is cool.
>>738374794I played Wiz 6 obsessively and then imported my party into Wiz 7, but I just couldn't get into it for some reason
>>738374770Never heard of them
>>738369507Is playing old games I never grew up with a bad thing?And what makes newer games better anyways when it keeps getting more shit every year?
>>738375204Good to know. What was different about 7 that made it not click? I've not touched any of the Dark Savant trilogy for a minute, and probably was going to put them off for longer for Gaiden III, but I heard the third one pulls mechanics from 6 and I thought I should play 6 first to compare and contrast them. >>738375265I love old games dude, I'm always trying to get people online and irl to check out older stuff to mixed effect. There's still some pretty good indie and lower budget stuff coming out but old games are super fun to dive into.
>>738370715That's quite the tangled mess.
>>738360239>ip
>>738359801I usually think Atari's IP purchases are a good idea, but here I think it acted wrongly. Previously Drecom owned the all Wizardry games and IP, now the IP has been dispersed. Which in the future will only cause problems as anyone working on a Wizardry product will have to check if it dies not infringe with both Atari and Drecom, instead of just with Drecom.
>>7383598012600 bros, we eating good
ive not played wizardry but the only thing i ever hear about the old ones is that they go out of their way to fuck you over
>>738377024Sometimes, yes. Sometimes with stuff like a giant box room full of spinners in Wizardry 1, it's more a lack of experience for making fun maps than it is being intentionally malicious. Even with Wizardry II you start seeing overall more purposeful map design, and it gets even better with III which has some fun ones, like a big floor that constantly has huge L shaped walls erecting behind you every step you take away from 0,0 to a certain point. Combat can go either way in just about any of them. Either you set up the right debuffs and AC modifier spells and just fuck the enemy out the gate, or they do the same to you and your only option is to run or try to tough it out. The series is more fun and approachable than you might initially think. Also, unless you're specifically doing it for the challenge, even back in the day, people reloaded from an old save or disk if something catastrophic happened. I recently finished Wizardry Gaiden II, and I made it my mission when my first party wiped to the boss on Floor 10 to just see if I could rescue them. I could, surprisingly. I beat the boss, and through two trips with a three man party of Samurai, Fighter, and Priest, I brought everyone back. Unfortunately for them, my new party was better in every way: gear, stats, and especially hitpoints on my mages who now had over 100 instead of only like 40. So, I'm proud that I did it, but they were effectively still replaced, lol.
>>738377024>>738377359Adding onto this, one thing I fucking hated about Wizardry Gaiden 2 despite it being a really good game overall, was its endgame because it started spamming bosses with breath attacks that did like 240 damage, which is basically always going to be a party wipe without absurd grinding and a little luck with good level ups. Something like Tiltowait is fair to protect against, you can set up magic resistance, you can silence the caster, all of that. But the bosses seemed particularly resistant to spells like that and would basically always go for it, or they'd just behead a player since every boss almost always did that with their physical attacks. I did a little reading online and it seems Gaiden II was a very rushed game and indeed, it reuses a shitton of assets from the first one, so maybe that was part of the problem. It's a good game with a lacking last couple floors.
>>738377359>it's more a lack of experience for making fun maps than it is being intentionally maliciousbullshit, fuck you. they never stopped after getting experience so it's pure maliciousness.
>>738377612I always felt like floors in most other Wizardry games were more fun than some of the Wiz 1 floors, and served more purpose too. They absolutely get easier but better designed over time. Hell, there's even funny (if punishing traps) like on the same floor I mentioned in my post in Wizardry III, there's a hallway that warns you several times not to go down it, but if you do anyways your party gets sealed in bedrock. Which, that fucking sucks, but you also didn't listen to the warning and I think it's funny. If we want to talk about bullshit after 1, I'd say the final riddle in 2. If only because I think it's easier to guess the solution than to deduce it with the clues on floor 6. I think that could have been handled a bit better.
>>738364605Atari was bought by a rich Jew who has been pumping out Atari collections and even mini consoles and shit. And modern reboots of old Atari games that are surprisingly decent. And he also bought Nightdive studios. And is making the new Bubsy games.
doesn't the upcoming anime take place during the Llylgamyn timeline and feature the softalk allstars? wonder how they're going to deal with that.
>>738377730you seem like a reasonable lad who likes it so i'll just say i disagree, there's too many things in wizardry that will fuck you up horribly because it's funny (it isn't), i ended up resetting quite a lot when playing wiz. never touched 4 though, and i head that one is actually evil
>>738377942There are RNG things that do suck at times, I'll agree with that. I'm glad setting up Litofeit helps lower ambush chances considerably while also letting you float over things like chutes or pits, great addition in later games. Most things have some answer by Wizardry 5, which is part of why it's my favorite of the Sir Tech ones I've played so far, and I guess overall until I find a Japanese spinoff that does it even better. The games would benefit from a few more ways to bend RNG in your favor, I won't deny that. I just think the overall systems in place and danger in exploration is part of the fun and a huge part of why I've become enamored with it lately. You have ways to help you out too that I learned about over time. Like when you make your party, don't think of each party member as their current classes now, think about what you want them to be later. So, your fighters will become casters so they have much more HP to work with, and your casters will become fighters later so they have more utility than just smacking shit in the front row, as useful as that is.
Is the series even that good aside from Forsaken Land and Daphne?
>>738368431Is 'aging' a thing in all of the games?Think it was the mechanic that irritated me the most
>>738378204Busin, it's incredible and sad that it hasn't been translated.
>>738378247I don't think I've had characters age past like, 33. Younger characters do get better level ups on average but you'd have to try pretty hard to get them super high outside of certain traps or using items that age your character. Hell I can't even recall aging traps but it's been awhile since I played 1-3 and 5 so I could be wrong on that. Maybe in some of the pools of water in 5? Hell, I think part of the reason characters in 3 are the descendants of the characters in 1 and 2 was because Sir Tech was actually concerned about characters being too old in 3.
>>738378112i like the exploration, atmosphere and setting up parties with future classes in mind but i cant ever fully immerse myself due to how many times i have to reset because something unreasonable happens, but thats just me. i also tried the five ordeals a bit ago and it just pissed me off. i hate that they dont let you reroll your bonus roll at all without having to make a new character.you said you were looking for a japanese spin off or something, i recently played the demo for this and liked ithttps://store.steampowered.com/app/4008840/Erehwon/
>>738378204Daphne is like one of the worst games in the series on account of being gacha trash
>>738378432> i hate that they dont let you reroll your bonus roll at all without having to make a new character.If there's anything the new remake of 1 got right, it's that. I hate how fucking slow the animations are on top of looking cheap which is why I uninstalled after one fight, I'm used to no animations and maybe a short sound effect or in the case of Gaiden, short animations with a short sound effect. But rerolling your roll from the character creation screen is genuinely a big improvement. I can totally get why Wizardry may not be for you though. There's a lot of games that were directly inspired by Wizardry that were made by people that worked on Japanese Wizardry games that are still pretty good (like Etrian Odyssey) or I have heard are pretty good (like The Dark Spire or Elminage) that might provide the same itch without being as frustrating. >https://store.steampowered.com/app/4008840/Erehwon/This game looks pretty interesting, wishlisted. Thanks anon!
>>738360239it's old and influential, but also forgotten because it sux
>>738365621Japan doesn't care about dark savant at all and that's the majority of the modern wizardry audience.
>>738378641yeah, i tried powering through the five ordeals but just uninstalled it, it's too obnoxious by design imo and i remember reading the dev replying to someone on the steam forums saying they will not change it. i already played eo, elminage (original) and got filtered by dark spire kek. i like drpgs, but wizardry just makes me mad.
>>738369507Japs to this day still copy wizardry cause all jrpgs are just wiz clones
>>738365257>People born in 2008 (Left 4 Dead release) are 18 now
>>738368942No they didn't.
>>738379021No. that's impossible. Everyone knows time stopped around 2018 and no one ages any further.
>>738364052Variants of the daphne flower show up.
Are ps2 jap games any fun?Been eyeing Tale of the forsaken land.
>>738359801From who, even?? And forget the rights, it should be public domain by now omg.
>we're finally getting wizardry ports on the modern systemsbased ataritime for zoomers to learn their grand pappy's rpgs
>>738379021fuck me...
>>738379385>implying zoomers will play games without a battle pass or without the backing of their favorite grifter e-celeb
>>738378974hey now let's be fair, some of them are Ultima clones
>>738379262Yeah, it's alright.
>>738364631>It was called "Wizardry Variant" when in development because it was supposed to be a variant on Wizardryalso a callback to wizardry alternative duology.
>>738379423Werdna's game would unironically be perfect streamerbait. Pay off a few vtubers to play it and the zoomzooms will eat it up.
>>738379472Streamers don't play games where you get to choose from more than 2-3 options at a time
based as fuck
>>738368276bloodgate is one of worst examples of re-re-re bullshitery, never not be mad
This can only be a good thing
>>738379973It might be truuu, with certain point of view.
What is the last good game
>>738380085the five ordeals
Atari sucks ass nowadays
>>738380174Nah, you do
>>738360934I care about this and Ultima and am only 27 years old
>>738380162based and truthpilled
A Busin remaster would be really nice on modern platforms. These games fill my SMT fix ever since they went Third Person in 3.
Can’t even cast spells anymore without some jew bullshit. What has the realm come to?
daphne being a gacha in the style of tales of the forsaken land was the whole fucking monkey paw curling in my eyes, fuck them forever.
If this gets us wizardry daphne but without the gacha then I'm all for it
why would they stop making gachas after raping wizardry into one proved a success? checkmate, retard
>>738380747Atari didn't buy Wizardry, they bought the rights to remake a few games.
>>738380861Yeah I know. I'm saying I want a new game that's like daphne but without the gacha
>>738366634>ReanHaha...
>>738360239>what is this IPI love posting this one.
>>738364052It's actually a fun game. Like if you had 3d fire emblem models in your first person dungeon crawler instaed of just static screens.
>>738359801Are the later Japanese Wizardry games good?
>>738360239Underage b&
>>738381821cute
>>738381941They are different but many people like them. One of the "new" PC remakes has custom campaigns that people make. But if u want to play a drpg id maybe suggest strange journey or Etrian before wizzy.
>>738374708It has high production values for a DRPG (3D dungeons, animated 3D party complete with attack animations, 3D enemies with their own attack animations, a lot of voice acting, etc.) but at the cost of being a gacha (tons of random shit on timers, and dailies and other garbage to trap you into spending time with the game). Worth checking out, but if you've played a lot of the genre, you might find the first Abyss a little boring, but it's at least worth persevering with until the second Abyss.
>>738374708unironically the graphics.
>>738378771>Japan doesn't care about dark savant at allDark Savant being the holy grail of the franchise over here, but not even a blip on the Nip's radar is a weird thing to think about.
>>738383219Oh
>>738369486>>738374661>Atari becomes the Harmony Gold of video games
>>738368448Nope, now it's french.
>>738375249Retard.
>>738378204Depends on your tolerance to the RNG giving you a bad roll and wiping your party out.
>>738386310You are meant to use a hex editor to max stat your ninja thoughbeit
>>738381698All that shit can be summarized into two words: artificial difficulty
How does Japan ever got involved with Wizardry ? Im oldfuck, but pretty sure I remember whole series is made by SirTech which was Canadian game studio. Along goats like Jagged Alliance.
>>738364195That's great I'll play when they remove the gacha stinker from it
>>738389105Japan has westaboos much like NA has weeaboos. And back in the 80s, Wizardry + D&D started arriving in Japan and it caught a lot of interest. Record of the Lodoss War was basically a D&D campaign turned into a light novel and anime, Dragon Quest was basically a Wizardry + Ultima spinoff, and the whole idea of magic european fantasy took off. Wizardry 5 really took off in Japan, to the point where basically all JP DRPGs effectively copy it.Robert Woodhead at Sir-Tech (the Trebor guy) was also a massive weeb, and so was more than happy to get the Wizardry games in japanese when most western developers never even thought about other countries, so that probably helped in making them widely available at the time.
>>738389105Japan has always liked the series, and when it started dying in the west they bought the rights.
>>738374096not my problem
>>738360239It depends on how old you were and what nation you were born in.If you were around for the 80s and 90s PC gaming scene, you would remember Wizardry as one of the pioneers of the "blobber" type of RPG dungeon crawler. It directly influenced Ultima 3 to becoming a create-a-party RPG when the two before had a lone hero without any party members, and after 3 the Ultima games gained established party characters to differentiate it from Wizardry's which were all player created at the start of the game.If you lived in Japan at the time you might have been familiar but it was the console JRPGs that were inspired by Wizardry that stole the show. Since the Wizardry franchise and CRPGs in general died out in the West, Wizardry was tailored to appeal to its Japanese audience with anime art styles that fly in contrast to its previous futuristic-medieval fantasy tone.
>>738389457>>738389464I see, thanks for update. 80s man, dang, it was long time ago now. In that case, I guess it means the whole jrpg subgenre getting top in the west is basically reimport.
>>738359801fuck wizardry, when are we getting a new might and magic?
>>738370715where does infogrames falls in all of this? they rock my world
>>738390362>new might and magicWhat, you want another uPlay live service?Can't wait to see Ubisoft's plans for a roguelike randomly generated lootdrop system with a subscription EXP bonus in the game. I'm sure that's exactly what everybody wants.
>>738360239It's what people played before jrpgs existed.Original spreadsheet gaming
>>738390831they still own it? fuck
>>738370715>new Atari CEO shut down all the mobile and crypto bullshit>just releasing video gamesOkay, at least this is acceptable. I guess there are decent CEOs, even if it might only be due to facing bankruptcy otherwise.
>>738370715Midway mentioned. Holy fuck the memories
>>738359801FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
Funny how the West has had a rich history and potential but it goes untouched for decades. While Japan made weeb games that pass on the torch of the franchise. It is still even more amazing that the ability to customize your own full party and have them effectively be essential to a story due to their chosen character traits is still none existent. Icewind Dale is probably the closest we ever got. At least Daphne gives all the characters you can recruit 3 pages of lore. More than the majority of games that allow you to pick and choose your party.
>>738359801Atari is alive?
And I was curious why Dave Rapoza draw a lot Wizardry illustration and not for mobile game. So they plan to revive the series outside of mobile game
>>738359801how does Atari even have money? what's the last successful thing they released?
Secretly I hope for VR MMOs to just be one city lobby and the adventuring is done Wizadry style. Cramped corridors so front line + back line makes sense. Map the dungeon. Traps require thief detection and they call out. will disarm wire trap, wall trap, floor trap, chest trap, etc.
>>738359801who and what?
>>738392405Wizardy is perfect for "Deep Down" but I doubt Atari has resources for such game
>>738360208It's a filthy jeet equity firm saar. The name means nothing anymore
>>738391840they should've hire the dungeon meshi mangaka, bitch loves wizardrywhat are some manga artists that made games, by the way? I can only think of toriyama
>>738360934>the most influential ip that is the root to just about every rpg in existence.>no one cares!I guess time moves on and you gen a's only care about Roblox or whatever fidget spinner app on your phone is the current hotness.
>>738359801First five games? What the fuck, so no 6, 7 and 8? Remake of 6 and maybe 7 would be fucking great.
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>>738361993It's not the foundation of RPGs, that's Ultima.
As an IP. Wizardry is kinda worthless. It has a light story, no particularly iconic characters or monsters. The title itself is generic, im sure it will just be remakes of 2-5.
>>738394601Werdna has potential as your generic Saturday morning cartoon evil wizard guy.
>>738359801It's over.
>>738359801Welp. There goes Wizardry
>>738359801>bought the rights to the worst Wizardry gamesFor what purpose?Only 6+ are good.A remaster for 6,7,8 all in one game would print money.
>>738395238>remake of Wizardry 6+7+8>would be great if Wiz8 had the format of Wiz6&7>most likely, any remake would try to change Wiz6&7 to have the combat and game systems of Wiz8I'm not looking forward to it.
>>738370715Is there some sort of prophecy about what happens with the fragments of Atari are reunited again?
oh shit, we back?!
>>738394817dumb fox
how would you introduce Wizardry II bullshit mechanics to modern audience?
>>738397049They already do with Elden Ring.
>>738359801As long as it doesn't affect my addiction (variants daphne), i don't care.
>>738359801Wizardry and anime girls are a natural mix
>>738397383>monotone gameplay with cheap waifu baitingSounds right up their alley
>>738392591Isn't this just monster hunter?
>>738397383>Wizardry and anime girls are a natural mixThen why are all the DRPGs with anime girls the worst games in the genre?
>>738359801>Dead overrated company buys IP of dead overrated series.
>>738398070Daphne is the most successful Wizardry game of all time, tho
>>738374845They will go back and change the games that already came out?
>>738400449That doesn't look very anime to me.I also said worst, not least successful.
>>738397073Cute
>>738383174cool, thanks
>>738359801what's next? buying Ultima IP?
How do you even get into Wizardry now? Which games are translated?
>>738380747A man can dream.
Hopefully they buy the rights to the gacha one and unfuck it by removing the gacha.
>>738403397Good luck with that, it's the only thing keeping Drecom from bankruptcy. The gacha isn't even bad, it's the f2p gem income and the cash shop pricing that's fucked.
>>738403079psx versions of 1-3, 4 is lost to time, 5 and up u can find on steam /gog / torrent. Actually playing the games is pretty painful desu. I'd suggest watching a video review and just playing EO or something instead.
>>738403801>The gacha isn't even that bad>Proceeds to tell how it's bad for every sideAlright
>>738403887NTA but the wizardry gacha is a surprisingly competent game all on its own. I randomly saw a /v/ thread on release so I'm a Day 1 player lmao. I took a few very long breaks, spent 4$ in a year and my team is really strong. There's also a LN called blade & bastard by the writed of goblin slayer that is also surprisingly fantastic.
>>738404052I know it's a good game, i was there day one, and that's why i want the cancer removed from it
>>738404168The monkey's paw has already curled. You got your modern DRPG. The rest is simply the way it is now.
>>738404305>The rest is simply the way it is now.I reject that reality and replace with my ownWe will get better gamesAnd we won't get jewed for it.
>>738404464Sis you forgot to put the word Indie in your post.
>>738359801Its fucking over bros
>>738402469>Ultimanever happening
>>738404543I don't want roguelike garbage, i want AAA quality, we had back when and we can have it now.
>>738404862the concept is so simple. It's 3d fire emblem with everyone in a party instead of on a field. You could do it with a gamecube. Nobody is interested.
>>738403079>Llylgamyn trilogy (I-II-III)PSone and Super Famicom. The first game got a modern indie remake which is fine IMO and it seems that Atari has plans for remaking the other four games>IVPSone if you know moonrunes. MS-DOS otherwise but seriously, that's the game you should leave for the end.>V Super Famicom or FM Towns, FM Towns in particular has a unique vibe, dungeons are still ancient wireframes but the sprites and the sound and music is gorgeous for its time, is like an early 80s game got mid 90s sprites and late 90s sound.And a good option is that you can just play modern and not so modern japanese bloobers: Stranger of Sword City, Saviours of Sapphire Wings, Etrain Oddisey, Mary Skelter, Dark Spyre, Wizardry The Five Ordeals and so on. They take the Wizardry I-V formula, destilate the good mechanics that made Wizardry fun and remove or diminish the mechanics that made the games tedious
>>738405738>Wizardry The Five Ordeals and so onAny opinion on thysiastery? Might as well ask here
>>738402469>UltimaHas EA ever sold an IP? But let's be positive, now that EA has an studio and the "fuck the Oscars" guy making games like It takes two and Split Fiction without microtransactions and other modern bullshit maybe some team at some point will convince EA to do something with Ultima.
>>738405738Why not suggest New Age of Llylgamyn for players of Llylgamyn Saga? That way people can export their characters from Llylgamyn Saga 3 to 5. All you need is both saves on your memory card. >FM TownsThat sound track is pretty damn good though.
>>738406258Easier (aka way less bullshit) than the original Wizardry pentalogy but has the same vibes, fun games.
>>738406427Didn't know you could do that, thanks buddy
>>738406557Ye, no prob. That's part of the reason I made my first playthrough of 1-3 and 5 on PS1, since I figured it'd be pretty hassle free character moving and I was right.
>>738392901Wizardry is an influential IP but it's also an IP that hasn't been touched in 25 years besides some Japanese spin-offs that I bet maybe one person in this thread has touched or even knows about. No one gives a fuck about it in modern day besides its legacy and it getting sent into the graveyard with Atari changes nothing, people acting like they suddenly care about it now is ridiculous.
wake me up when they reboot wizardry online
Damn, I guess that means the Japs won't be making any more
>>738406738Atari is an awful dev and probably worst console/hardware "makers" but as publishers they are somewhat decent if they keep their jews in check
I hope they do it right, gonna dump some art I've collected from other anons
>>738359801Atari still exists? What does this mean for wizardy gacha phoneslop ghost girlfriend simulator?
>>738407281Yes.Mostly nothing.
>>738407281It's a skinwalked company, someone bought the rights to the Atari name (multiple times, not sure who owns it now)
>>738360239they are the hardest games I had ever played, legit I could never beat a single one
>>738368814Atari is publishing the new Bubsy 4D
>>738407281>Atari still exists?Not really.The intellectual property exists. It was bought by some french company (Infogrames Entertainment) and they started calling themselves Atari for the name recognition. So while there is a company named Atari now, it really has nothing to do with anything beyond the legal IP ownership.>What does this mean for wizardy gacha phoneslop ghost girlfriend simulator?Nothing. It looks like they just purchased Wizardry 1-5 exclusively. This means that other companies can still sell and probably even make their own Wizardry games.Apparently Drecom is the company that holds the Wizardry trademark, meaning they're the one who gives permission to games getting the Wizardry name. So Atari can make and remake and sell Wizardry 1-5, but can't make a new Wizardry title. I think; I'm not an international copyright lawyer, so I have no clue who actually owns what.Drecom are the ones publishing Wizardry Variants Daphne, so you can be sure that the ghost blowjob Wizardry gacha is still around.
HOW IS ATARI STILL AROUND? TF ARE THEY DOING TO GENERATE MONEY?
>>738407851>HOW IS ATARI STILL AROUND?Somebody bought the Atari trademark and started calling themselves Atari.>TF ARE THEY DOING TO GENERATE MONEY?Apparently, they own a bunch of old video game IPs and so are just remaking old games and putting them out. They're also part of a larger company, and so can stay alive even when not banking on nostalgia sales.
