why did endfield die out here?
>>738365357shit game that also scammed people out of their paypal money
>>738365357the average gacha player is too retarded for the more complicated systems but anyone who wants complex gameplay wasn't going to enjoy the braindead combat
>>738365357spent a million years re-re-remaking it from the ground up so by the time it released everyone already had intense open world action gacha fatigue
>>738365357You are confusing Endfield with NTEEndfield is doing fine
WoW syndromea single game, genshin impact, basically cornered the whole genre so now every studio has to copy it with little to no innovation to actual gameplay because otherwise investors might get scaredthis isn't exaggeration. endfield was more xenoblade-like until asians got angry and wanted it to play more like genshin. shit sucks.
>>738365357this turd really exposed hypergrift as the one-hit wonder they are
>>738365357>launching gacha RPG in a post Genshin Impact world is toughmaybe don't do that? Just a thought>inb4 they did make a non gacha gameyeah, and sold it only on google play store for some reason. some genius move right there.
>>738365357>Make gacha>make bank>make.... Another gachafuck off, make a real game with that money
>>738365357>Another gacha full of nigger asses aimed at blacks and americans>Why did it flopJeez I don't know maybe stop aiming your gachas at blacks and americansSame shit happened to NTE
>>738366164>>738366210only developers that are their own boss can get away with using the gachabux to fund non-gachas. Hyperyiff on the other hand is beholden to yostar's interests.
>>738365357>Releasing Gachashit in 2026It's like pissing in an ocean of diarrhea.
>>738366398NTE was mega successful though?
>>738367604>already using past tensedamn thats a hell of a freudian slip
>>738367474if nikke can so can other follow suit people are interested in single player games and they will always will be offline should always be an option.
>>738367474is any of the new GFL stuff gacha?legit question btw, I know they announced some stuff but I can't tell if they're gachas or not
>>738365357>Release gacha with the same genshin-like retarded design queues that every 3d gacha game uses>"Why are all RPG gachas so similar?"jesus christ are they really this retarded?
>>738367724I've read that Foxtrot or whatever (the "helldiver" looking one) is also on mobile, so that might be F2P in a wayNo clue on Butterfly
>>738367604So successful the stocks went down and the devs had to come out on stream doing damage control saying that the game was totally selling well
>>738367869Budget for the game was 30 million they made 100 million day 1. They're doing fine.
>>738365357Live service game without service.
>>738367903+50 million in ads+20 million to get ecelebs to play+50 million for continuous development.Sorry, it's a failure.
>>738365357>play new horror game>know the next 20 hours will be horrorslopdropped
>>738367771>made the game a bit different>open beta>people were complaining about it being different>decided to change things to make it the same>release>now people are complaining about it being the same
>>738367692Shift UP is also independent so the trend holds. Stellar Blade was Sony published but they don't own the studio.>>738367724They announced three things at the 10th anniversary expo a few days ago>Escape from Duckov mode for GF2 replacing one set of weeklies with another, also reveal for AK-12/Lucia/VidyaButts. Presumably coming to the CN server within a few updates.>Blue Butterfly Contract is AFAIK just an expansion of the asset flip mobile shooter they trialed in south east asia to CN with a new big map PVE mode. Releasing this year.>Reverse Collapse: Foxtrot is the big one, a helldivers-like 3rd person PvE shooter for all platforms. 2028 release.That they are using the same upper level title as their previous non-gacha suggests it is a paid, premium product and not a gacha. They suggested it would also be on mobile but it's UE5 so doubt.jpg since MICA has a habit of just saying things (Codename Bakery was also supposed to get a mobile and switch port but those never happened). Not much info really besides the trailer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hrdfh-bTgrA
>>738365357not enough Pogranichnik hype moments and aura
>>738367903>almost 20% stock down after just 2 weeksYup totally fine
Nah marketing is only 1/3rd of the dev costs. Overall it's a very cheap game to make.
>>738366210I think only Cygames did that
>>738368052>>738367857alright danke anon-tachi, I know about the helldivers looking one but I also heard about it being on mobile so I wasn't sure if it's gacha or notI have the original Reverse Collapse by the way, played the demo years ago and I'm planning to play the game soon
>>738367903server upkeep costs are expensive, that's how these games die
>>738368148I hope you like reading
>>738368116how big is the relink dlc? I didn't get into the open beta so I have no idea what's in so far. They went completely silent for 2 years so hopefully they actually put a lot of things in it.Still disappointed because I heard theres a rumor they were making something new back when Relink was finished but there's no more news about it.
>>738365357I played this game since release until two weeks ago, I guess one or two weeks into 1.2.I paid for several bundles, monthly and battle passes. Everything was going fine, I was enjoying it.But suddenly one day a realization hit me like a fucking train.>"Do I really want to keep doing these dailies forever? Modifying, even with blueprints, my facilties in each update"And I dropped it. It is the first gacha I truly drop after playing it and deciding to be an active player.
>>738368116Cygames has RelinkShiftUP has Stellar BladeMICA has Reverse Collapse: Codename Bakery and now Reverse Collapse: FoxtrotSeasun tried with Mecha Break but fumbled it really fucking hard
>>738365357Every gacha story has followed the same formula for every Genshin-like.>1.0 has a captivating intro, introduces its main character, quirky sidekick, a bunch of characters that launch with the game and a pretty meaty 3-4 worth of quests.>1.1 introduces the hot "waifu of the month" you hang out with the WotM, solve their problems have some bonding moments that aren't quite romantic or sexual>1.2 ditch last waifu of the month, introduce new waifu of the month. Repeat quests with new WotM>1.X last version before 2.0 brings back all the waifus you collected in your harem for one big showdown with the big bad. You have one final farwell to every SSR character before you move on to the new areaThis is designed to get you to spend on the new characters every patch cycle.
>>738365357It's really funny reading statements like this>But how could you tell it was going to be shit?
>>738365357Anyone that plays gacha deserves to be miserable
>>738369390>no fun allowed
>>738365357Enfield was cool since I hate retarded swapping systems but the story and character designs were both way too bland. It seems chinks are still very bad at scifi.
It seems to be doing alright?
>>738365357... Just don't make it a gatcha game.And instead make it a normal game with anime girls + factorio.
>>738365357>make a clone of popular game>it doesn't get as popular because there's already like 15 similar clonesWho would've thought.
>>7383653571.1 took too long and was flat. 1.2 was okay but nothing amazing, most people simply lost interest.
It plays out exactly the same as every other game in the open world theme park genre. The addition of the factory gameplay was interesting until you setup the base and just completely forget it's a part of the game until 6 months later when they add 1-2 new parts to slot into the machine.
>>738367643ESL
>>738367869crimson desert stocks also crashed, what's your point?
>>738370716My point is that your game is trash, arktranny
>>738365357Only redeeming thing about EF is that it made me quit gacha completely.I waited for this turd for 5 fucking years and it came out completely offensively boring. It made me kinda mad and i removed all my gachage and don't even care for upcoming games.Good for me, i haven't felt so alive in the past 10 years
>>738367953it's not a western game, retard, they don't launder 100 million on advertising.
>>738368192Actual kino.
Should have stuck to their Tower Defense roots.
>>738369390What makes you say something so strange? Did a gacha rape you as a child?
Nah, the game is great and doing fine
>>738365357Because gatchas need to stop beating around the bush with shit ass stories and light/ult combat over and over and accept what they really are: Relationship replacements and escapism from the real world. Lean hyper hard into isekai, slice of life dating/waifu collection stuff and evolve.
>>738370754I think you just get your talking points from game journo headlines so you might be mentally retarded. You clearly can't actually parse out what the headline means or how good the game in question is since you don't play games.
>>738370864>and escapism from the real world.ALL games do this
>>738370864Sounds like love and deepspace is the game for you.
>>738370212it gets 0 threads here unlike nikke/BA/gfl
>>738371076Counter strike gets zero threads too and it's a massive cash cow, same for GTA online. Both /v/ and dubious extrapolated charts like the one you're replying to are not representative of a game's cash flow.
>>738371076the less nu-/v/ talks about a game, the better
>>738365357i was enjoying the factory building stuff, but then i just thought>why am i playing a poor man's satisfactory when i could be playing satisfactory insteadand never logged in again
>>738366398You say that about every Gacha.
>>738371605I swear it's just the bikini schizo with a new obsession.
>>738365357I was interested in the AIC game play. This past week was the FIRST event that did anything with it and it was fucking pathetically easy. Even outside the event there is no interaction. Just set up your factory and then ignore it. You don't even get any real rewards from it. Valley bucks are worthless. The game is also impossible for F2P. Absolutely draconian monetization. I have no idea what they were thinking but I doubt people are gonna stick around when GFL2 does everything in its power to give you every girl and her gun.
>>738365357Would have helped if they hadn't released a poor man's Genshin with a poor man's Satisfactory slapped onto it.
>>738371414All I wanted was satisfactory with boobs. Thats it. Give me some cute girls that demand 500 step gifts so that after 5000 hours she kisses me.
Just once I want a quest where I, the amnesiac gacha MC, don’t walk over and do something so brain-dead that I wonder how Talos didn’t completely die while I was in my medbed. Like, how water wheels work?! Bitch you have seven billion of these around Wuling! How do you need ME to show you how they work? God damn, everyone is so fucking stupid on Talos…
>>738365357furries
>>738365357One of the worst gacha systems out there on top of not being generous at all together with the paypal issues + cpus randomly going to 100% load because of a bug in their code + tone deaf story.
>>738365357Why is the story so fucking cherry and lighthearted? Fuck man. I came for angst and was slapped with "Oh yeah that horrible condition that killed people and or drove them insane? Its not a problem now teehee!" I want my dead doves damn it.
>>738370212>doing alright>already making less money than arknights which is 6 years oldJUST
>>738370212>no wuwa againexplains the collab desperation
>>738365357>>738365757>all gacha games are the same combat the only thing that can change is graphics, and other mechanic addons.
I po nly play blue archive and umamusumeGet fucked hoyosloppers
I actually enjoy playing Enfield. There, I said it.
>>738371849>design a game where you need a PhD to clear the puzzles>nobody can beat itThe factory already filters burgers hard enough as it is
>>738365882NTE is doing fine. No one need that vtuber drama
both NTE and Endfield made the same mistake, they made a gacha but forgot to make the characters appealing Endfield also has extremely greedy monetization and anti-rerolling features to make sure you getting even your first limited for free is hard so fuck that game in particular(even if the 3D models are high quality).
>>738365357Almost everything went wront, would take too long to write. But the beta had better story and combat but bugmen betatesters said it needs to be super light hearted and happy in tone and the combat needs to be dodge slop, so thats how you ended up with the most boring combat in a gacha ever. Story is super boring because they cut out all the grit to appease said bugmen, what were left with is a bog standard almost chosen one, amnesiac protagonist game where everyone kisses the feet you walk on 24/7. Factory and delivery system are completely half-baked and not mandatory for the game, because they were afraid of committing. The result is that minmaxing your factory doesn't really do much, feeds you useless parts and components you will replace in a month at best (already happened with xiranite and new parts). Add the PayPal fiasco which is worse than people think, people literally withdrew people's entire accounts of money leaving them in the red for ages, and abusers got to keep all of their stuff they bought with someone else's money. So what does this mean in terms of the gacha? Well, you have people with millions of the gacha currency who paid NOTHING for them, they are set for life in this game with zero punishment because there were no bans or rollback. So enjoy playing the game knowing thousands of people on your server have millions of gacha currency for free and can do whatever they want in the game. There's so much more I could say but it's an unmitigated disaster launch, the kind we have never seen in the gacha space.The biggest moron here is me for being excited for the game though.
because there isn't anything to do, they drip feed dogshit events with mere minutes of "content" and then tell you to log in next week again for the next 5 minutes of the event.
>>738365357It's because they made a shitty Genshin clone and sprinkled some factorio for babies on top instead of making an actual 3D Arknights game. Heck the OG Arknights game is making MORE money than Endfield right now.No one wanted this game.
I liked the setting of OG AK a lot more. Open World Plains Biome #524789 isn't bad but it's not memorable either. Also I wanted to be incentivized to character swap more like in ff7r. Kind of feels like the gacha is just waiting for one big DPS to roll for and 3 supports you let the computer play, and I've got essentially an infinite amount of those types of games so I'm not too endeared.
>>738370212>made less money than its ancient predecessor that has flash game tier graphicsOOF
>>738374427>>738372127To be fair you're basically fighting yourself at that point with a game that's been around for a decade and has prior player investments over the long term. Any sequel is gonna suffer that, especially since short of wordswordswords plot Endfield released like most gacha: barren early on.
>>738373912Took me two months to catch up, but now that I did, there really isn't much to do. Log in, pick up gibs, spend sanity, sell and buy stonks, see the factory hasn't shit itself and log out. There really should be some long-term excuse to actually play
The problem I have with this game that I constantly get it confused with gfl2 and then I think that I might start playing it, but when I realize that gfl2 is the lewd one I don't care anymore about endfield. They came out too close to each other, have similar themes, but one is infinitely lewder.
Having only played an mmolite gacha before, filled with fomo and dick measuring mechanics like damage meters in multiplayer raids with difficulty tuned to having at least one spender on your team, I really don't understand how singleplayer gachas make money, especially when their overall difficulty is super low like in Endfield.Also the factory building is too easy/basic for people who like factory games, but probably too complex for the average gachatard.
>>738375668retard-kun, gfl2 came out three years earlier and is nothing like Endfield...
>damn it's tough releasing a game like genshin>that's why we made a genshin clone and we got fucked overthis is so funny to read because arknight is the only gacha I actually played and somewhat enjoyed, but then instead of making another TD game they made... genshin?anyways, gachaniggers get what they deserve
>Gacha RPG
>>738376634it's funny when you see some of the old beta test footage, too. the story was darker and more in line with the original arknights, and the gameplay had a light tactical placement and skill usage system to it to at least differentiate it. final version rolls around, the story is made a lot less dark overall, and combat is just pure, unabashed genshin clone.
