So you have 64 3D, Zero, and now this. And 64 itself was already a loose remake of the first SNES game. That's four times the same game has been remade.I get it, 64 is pretty much a perfect game, great story, great gameplay, great cast, amazing replay value with all the stages and branching paths, and Peppy is part of the team. But at this point I kinda wish they would lean into it and just explicitly confirm that the Star Fox universe is stuck in a time loop and forced to relive the same events over and over, like some sort of Dragon's Dogma situation. Then it would be kinda cool. As it is it just feels weird that Nintendo, a company known for insisting on constantly trying new things with their IPs even to the detriment of the IP, is ok with just making the same game again and again for this series. Hell even the games that do something different like Adventures or Assault weren't even developed by Nintendo.
You already have a bunch of threads to post this in.
>>738367974You will not silence me.
Original, 64, and Zero are all very different games. The have the same story, but Super Mario World is a very different game from Super Mario Bros. Nobody would call them remakes of each other.In the direct they said the stages are 1:1, so this is literally a REMASTER (the same game with shitty visuals and sounds) of 64.
>>738367992I HAVE BEEN SILENCED
>>738368080There's too much new stuff in this game with all the cutscenes and new dialogue to call it a remaster. It's still a remake, just a more faithful one than Zero was. Maybe you could make the case that 64 3D was a remaster, even though they still recorded new voice acting for that one it was indeed the same dialogue from 64.
>>738368080Super Mario World has a different story and setting than the original Mario Bros., though. It isn't even in the Mushroom Kingdom.
>>738370302Really? Where is it then
>>738370302That all applies to Zero
It's strange, isn't it? Miyamoto is usually so insistent that sequels have to do something new but not for this series I guess
>>738367906I think for new gamers this is perfect.I just hope it sells well and we get a proper sequel (without gimmicks).
The voice acting is like 90% of the charm of the original. They will never be able to top that.
>>738371098Bro you literally go to all the same planets in Zero, what the fuck are you talking about? I know nobody played it but you realize nobody is forcing you to pretend to have played a game you've never played.
>>738371208That's why I'm glad they're not trying to do some pale imitation the over the top silly voice acting of 64 and seem to be just giving it real voice acting this time around. There's no need to compare the two because they're going for entirely different things
>>738371379Why play it? It failed to replace the original, and it's already being replaced. Zero will be the least important game to have played.
>>738368692Zero was a new game, not a remake.>>738371178How is it perfect for newcomers? VFXs look worse, the fov kills the sense of speed and they presumably added hours of furry-baiting cutscenes in a hour long game. That 2s clip of 64 at the end of the direct mogs the whole game. This feel like those Panzer Dragoon remakes but on a higher budget. This game doesn't have anything promising for an eventual sequel either, as there's not even a new level to showcase the hypotetical creativity of current designers. The genre is dead and they only bring back the IP to cater to furries. Newcomers would be better served by playing SNES/64 rather than this garbage.
>>738371379>Same planets Anon, every level is completely different from the layout to the bosses
>>738371379Not who you are replying to but planets having the same name does not make them the same levels or zero a remake of anything.
>>738371568Why is everyone in this thread trying to gaslight me, it literally says on the Star Fox 2026 wikipedia page>the game is the third remake of Star Fox 64 (1997) following Star Fox 64 3D (2011) and Star Fox Zero (2016)
>>738372727Oh, well, if Wikipedia says it, it MUST be true! Do not trust your lying eyes, gamers, playing the game means nothing! Wikipedia has the truth!
>>738370978Dinosaur island.Keep up, anon
>>738372889Isn't that the place from SMW2?
>>738372824The only way it doesn't count as a remake is if you suddenly change the definition of remakes and a game can only be a remake if it recreates the original game exactly, which nobody has ever said. There are tons of remakes which completely change the experience while keeping the same overall concept.
>>738372889*Dinosaur Land>>738372908That's Yoshi's Island. Also, it being called SMW2 was just a marketing gimmick in the west.
>>738372960So Mega Man 2 is a remake of Mega Man? They have as much in common as SF64 and Zero.
>>738373020It's a direct sequel. Read the opening scrawl, punk. Or shut the fuck up, you're not convincing anyone, are you?
>>738372987So you're telling me Yoshis live in two completely unrelated islands?
>>738372960Zero shares 4, maybe 5 stages with 64, and none of them play the same or have even slightly similar layouts, enemies, or bosses. After the first stage it's plot is completely different outside shooting Andross at the end.
>>738373096And it's still more similar to MM1 than Zero is to SF64. Play the fucking games or fuck off.
>>738373097Yoshis were kidnapped and stuffed into eggs on Dinosaur Island. They have a home, but it seems just anyone can move in there.
>>738373118Because it's a retelling of the story from 64, not an exact copy. There are tons of remakes like this, FF7, Resident Evil, Zero Mission, how is this concept hard to understand? I feel like I'm talking to a time traveler from the past.
>>738373097Correct. They also live in a number of different places if you count the canon of the various Mario RPGs.
>>738373161Ok this is getting even more confusing. The place is called Dinosaur Island, and the Yoshis are the only dinosaurs there, but it's not named after them?
>>738373272No no no, it's full of dinosaur enemies. How long since you play SMW?
>>738373209>FF7Specifically goes off the rails, is advertised as doing such, and is attacked by fans for it. Not a remake, no matter what the title says. It's even split into multiple games.>Resident EvilAll of them still follow the stories, locations, and characters nearly 1 to 1 with extremely minor alterations.>Zero MissionIs nearly 1 to 1 with Metroid's layout and powers until the end where they add a bit of extra story.Zero' story is wildly different from 64's after the opening cutscene, even moreso than Rebirth's total deviation from VII. An accurate comparison would be Mario Galaxy and Galaxy 2. They start with the Star Festival, they end with Bowser losing, and both star Mario in space. Those are the similarities.
>>738373272*Dinosaur Land, not Islandhttps://www.mariowiki.com/Dinosaur_Land4U
>>738373338I admit I only ever made it to like world 3, do the dinosaurs appear after that? Actually I trust you, I just remembered I've heard of the triceratops named after Trent Reznor even though I haven't seen it myself. But I just remembered, isn't world 1 literally named Yoshi's Island? Is it the same Yoshi's Island from the game Yoshi's Island or is it just an island that has Yoshi on it?
>>738373524It's probably the same island, but about 30 years have passed since the mario brothers aren't babs anymore.
>>738373524Definitely just an island in Dinosaur Land where Yoshi's live. Yoshi's Island has entire regions with differing climates on it.
>>738367906What a fake ass franchise that's made of literally the exact fucking game every time. I am genuinely starting to regret ever liking Star Fox, and I'm not even kidding.
>>738371137Miyamoto's autism I guess. He just doesn't like fzero.
>>738374093Miyamoto probably associates the series too much with Imamura, and I think those two aren't so buddy buddy (going beyond the latter's departure from Nintendo).
>>738368692The cutscenes are in between the stages
>>738367906Y’know this new art style wouldn’t look bad if it was in stop motion like Chicken Run or Fantastic Mr Fox.
>>738373462But the difference between the Galaxy games and Star Fox is that even though you technically can play Galaxy 2 without 1 because most games are made for children and don't require a lot of effort to understand the story, the fact remains it is indeed a continuation of Galaxy 1's story. Not so with Zero, it is specifically retelling the story of the Star Fox team vs Andross, just like 64 did with SNES. Compare that to Adventures and then Assault and even Command which I hate, which are all games that continue from 64's story.Reboot, remake, reimagining, all these terms are used interchangeably and this whole discussion is splitting hairs. Nobody tries to say the 1982 version of The Thing isn't a remake of the 1951 version even though they're completely different movies.
>Snoy having a meltdown all over the board because Starfox is back and looks better than every single ps5 gameYou love to see it
>>738367906Selling you the same game over and over is Nintendo's deal. Star Fox just somehow is the only one where it's this blatant.
>>738373097Yoshi's Island is a part of Dinosaur Land. Think of Dinosaur Land as a continent, and Yoshi's Island is a country in it.
>>738367906Okay so here's my crackpot theory, and a good justification for Star Fox being remade again.Starfox the remake is being handled by a new Nintendo development team, hopefully Nintendo Studios Singapore and the reason why they chose to remake Starfox 64 again is to get the studio used to working on a Starfox game, the approach is similar to Metroid Samus Returns with Mercury Steam, remake old game, move on to making new game, hopefully Starfox finally finds a permanent home so that we can get consistent releases. Hopefully this isn't Next Level Games.>>738371208All they have to do is bring back that version of Wolf, but considering his outfit I doubt it.
>>738371568>Zero was a new game, not a remake.He meant remake in terms of retelling the same story. Sure, different stages, bosses, gameplay mechanics, etc., but the story is more or less the same thing as 64.
>>738367906>ZeroZero isn't a remake. You never played the game
>>738374739>but the story is more or less the same thing as 64So Mario Odyssey is a remake of Mario Bros, becsuse yoiu save the princess. Right?
>>738367906>But at this point I kinda wish they would lean into it and just explicitly confirm that the Star Fox universe is stuck in a time loop and forced to relive the same events over and overDidn't Zero imply some weird time altering shit was going on with Andross' portals and alternate dimension experiments? I remember that being the dev's explanation for why it's similar to 64 but some stuff is different. If the game was longer I think they would've explored that more
I don’t know why we need a remake at all
>>738374946Where can i watch the trailer?
>franchise only has 1 good game so they have to port it and remake it again and again
>"the switch 2 can't do dlss">nintendo: slaps dlss5 on starfox64imagine getting btfo'd this hard
>>738374807It's not a reboot, so no. Not gonna bother with you anymore because you don't sound like you'll be convinced.
>>738373272>Yoshis are the only dinosaurs therehttps://www.mariowiki.com/Rexhttps://www.mariowiki.com/Reznor>>738373524>I admit I only ever made it to like world 3No, Rexes are in literally the first level
>>738374807Star Fox Zero was specifically a reboot of the series made to replace Star Fox 64, Super Mario Odyssey is nothing of the sort for Super Mario Bros,
>>738375025But you kill Andross in Zero, so it's literally a reamake of 64, right?
>>738374946Japanese people lack imagination. It's the same reason we haven't had a good Metroid game in years either.
I just dont think Star Fox is so good a Video Game that it deserved such reverence of such a faithful remake, let alone four of them. Like am I crazy here. The character is good, the world and setting are good, and the premise is good, the plot is basic but whatever but the game... is a basic bitch rail shooter, like that genre is dead for a reason, it started out with shit like that bad Star Wars vector graphics game evolved into Star Fox, but then further evolved into Panzer Dragoon and games like Omega Boost but then died off when we were of good 3D flight games like Ace Combat. Star Fox is like preserving sahelathropus, this awkward middle stage of evolution that just barely learned to stand and walk but cant run yet. Like if youre going to remake Star Fox and retell his story thats fine. But make a new game, Its been 30 fucking years you really expect millions of people to pay $80 on a 3 hour game theyve already played thats failed to evolve in any meaningful way in that time?Star Fox isnt a game to deserve this kind of reverence, its fine for the 1990s but even by '99 that shit was feeling dated. The biggest issue with the DS remake was how little it changed, if you played it on 64 you already played the DS remake and now if you've played either of those you've played this.Zero was shit but I at least give it credit for trying something new.
>>738375093>Japanese people lack imaginationas opposed to whom?
>>738375061>rebooti said remake. OP said remake.try and stay on topic
>>738375113The French.
>>738367906What the fuck were they thinking with these redesigns man...
>>738375109>DS remakeThere wasn't a DS remake...the DS have was a new game
>>738374972They didn't do it as a trailer, they did a 16 minute direct explaining gameplay features and stuff.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePZeyh5q9R8
>>738375135fair
>>738375135French do make some pretty fucking banger games I gotta admit. Every time I play an awesome game and look up who made it? The French
>>738375179Oh. Let me know when there's a trailer.
>>738375218Skip to 13:35 in the video then
>>738375113The rest of the world. Japan literally just rips off other countries' stories and cultures and slaps a Japanese style paint over it. Don't get me wrong, they care. There's still quality in the product. But is it original? Never.
>>738375093Just give me a bunch of new power-ups and abilities, a new hostile and isolating alien planet to explore, and a creepy atmosphere with some spooky music and I'm a happy metroid camper. How is that hard? Okay new power-ups/monsters/environments can be kinda challenging but its really not asking a lot. You could give me that same basic game 1,000 times and so long as that core recipe is the same I'm satisfied.
>>738375295lol
>>738375121It's the same difference it's a retelling of that same basic story.
>>738375325So what ended up being the problem with Prime 4? Did people's fears come true and the wisecracking MCU Deadpool nerd guy was by your side quipping the whole game?
>>738375016>dlss>upscaled from 540 internallyThis has Unreal written all over it.
>>738375251>no gameplay in the trailerEh, i don't care for movies. Vut i don't want to sit through 16 minutes of recaps.
>>738375395No, it's not
>>738375445I wouldn't say there's much recapping in the direct, they basically show you all the game's content, all the different planets, how the online play works, etc. Pretty much if you've played the original it's the same thing with better graphics.
>>738375551When I skimmed though the direct they were showing clips of Smash Bros and n64 still.I don't need that.
>>738375480It's the same difference, this is the 5th game in the Starfox Series that is the first entry chronologically, and the 3rd version of Star Fox 64. Can they do it again?
>>738375413Pretty much, and the middle of the game has a big boring open world segment with no music that feels completely out of place. Like they still dont understand what makes Metroid feel like Metroid and just threw it in because BotW did it and the kids liked it there. When Prime 4 is being a creepy and isolating explore this hostile alien world game with creepy music and a dense atmosphere its good, but then we hit a musicless open world or have a wisecracking side kick its bad.Its mind boggling to me that they got it so right with Dread but managed to fumble it so hard with Prime 4.
It's ok when snoy does it
>>738375652>I-i-it's the same!!!No, it'a not
>>738375160DS/3DS, same thing, one just had a gimmick. I feel the same way about Gameboy and Gameboy Color even though those are technically different consoles too.
>>738375749then you're dumb
>>738375690It's the same ped(antist)file.
>>738375690>No, it'a notMario made this post
>>738375770Your mom says im a very smart boy though.
>>738375749>DS/3DS, same thingNo, they are literally different games.
>>738375771>is verifiably different>"a-a-actually it's the s-same..."No.
Can’t let you remake that Star Fox
>>738375016can dlss make good frames without artifact shit ai looking? checkmate>>738375656not mind boggling they let it to different studios in prime 4 case the retards that made halo 4
>>738375927Retro Studios made Halo 4?
>>738375827I was referring to the platforms dummy, DS and 3DS are the same thing in my mind just like Gameboy and Gameboy Color are the same thing in my mind. I'll say DS to refer to both the DS and 3DS, just as I'll say Gameboy to refer to both the Gameboy and Gameboy Color.
>>738375987>DS and 3DS are the same thing in my mindWell that's retarded.Do you also think the GBA is the Gameboy?Or that the PS2 is the PS1?
i really hope they add more levels than just the single prologue mission with james, because the game is the perfect template but would benefit from a few extra levels for replays. we've played the same game 20 times by now and all of the routes like 5-10 times. it doesnt need to be something plot significant. just a few extra planets here and there for fun detours. if they restore any of the cut content levels from 64 i will buy it.
>>738375987retarded take
>>738376040I assumed the prologue was just a cutscene and not an actual mission, but I agree with you that I hope there's actual new stages they're keeping secret that wasn't in the direct. But I don't know if that's common practice for Nintendo
>>738375927>>738375972Prime 4 started with Bamco Singapore, then Nintendo saw how horrible it was and cancelled it and gave it to Retro, but since they already spent money on it they forced Retro to reuse what Bamco Singapore had. It wasn't the Halo 4 guys it was just a victim of outsourcing.
>>738376117Proof?
>>738376117And modern Retro is a shell of its former self, with staff from many other studios of varying quality - notably several from 343 studios.
>>738376016Mostly only applies to Gameboy Color and 3DS. They were so much like the previous generation that my brain doesn't consider them a new piece of hardware. Wasn't there even a 3DS+ that had a few games you could only play on the upgraded enhanced version of the 3DS thats technically a new console too but you probably think of it as another 3DS too even though its actually a new thing. Same applies to that, still just a DS to me.
>>738376152Did you just miss that entire news cycle?https://www.eurogamer.net/yes-namco-bandai-is-working-on-metroid-prime-4https://archive.is/EfU5B
>>738376261>Wasn't there even a 3DS+Yes, that's more comparable to the Gameboy Color.The 3DS is the sequel console to the DS.They are not "the same console" no matter what.
>>738376309Neat, now how do you intend to prove the part where you said>>738376117>they forced Retro to reuse what Bamco Singapore had.?
>>738376261>Gameboy/Gameboy Color>DS/DSi>3DS/New 3DS
>>738376261The new 3DS to the 3DS is more comparable to your "GB to GBC" analogy than DS to 3DS. The 3DS was leaps and bounds better graphically and feature wise than the DS, it was a whole new thing. The only thing similar was 2 screens.
>>738376097im hoping they do something with this giant battleship level. old nintendo i think would have done this and finished the job for a console remake but with new nintendo im not gettting my hopes too high.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfMICQBAMQQ
>>738376117>but since they already spent money on it they forced Retro to reuse what Bamco Singapore had.That would be a fair assumption to make if Retro were still competent developers, but everything since Harmony shows they lost the special sauce.
>>738375864>it's slightly different>but the core point is the same>that doesn't matter what matters is that the dictionary i have says that these 2 things have different meanings you just need to ignore how similar these meanings are and you need to completely ignore the context of the conversation being had on all levels and then you will agree with me
>>738376058It'll happen to you, your kids will cry because they want the PS8 but youll be sure you already bought them a PS8 but they'll be like 'noooo dad I was the New PS8pro plus turbo its totally different with the the enhanced AI gaytracing'.
>>738376403>Now he's arguing AGAINST the dictionary definiton of wordsBrown people are hilarious, holy shit
>>738376358I completely forgot about the DSi, yeah that one too, 'DS' for all of them.
>>738376375I feel like it's a problem with modern game development in general. In the old days a remake that restored cut content cost a fraction of the budget of modern remakes. These days shit is so expensive they blow all the budget and have to cut even MORE shit that was in the original game. I think the only way this gets fixed is if games stop chasing graphical fidelity and focus on the actual game, but will people be willing to buy a game that "looks old"? That is the question
>>738376495Cool, thanks for confirning your iq is low.
>>738376425Weren't you the one who said the game with "Remake" in the title, is not a remake?
>>738376543please shut the fuck up if you didn't actually provide a test
>>738376527>but will people be willing to buy a game that "looks old"?Pokemon keeps selling and it literally looks like a Wii game.
>>738376416I would hope Sony pulls out of game development long before there can ever be a PS8
>>738376345Metroid Prime 4 under Retro still used core concepts that were cemented when the game was in development at Bandai Namco Singapore, the bike, the open world, the secondary characters, the linear approach to levels. Tanabe stated that after the game was announced there were a lot of fans demanding it be open world, so he made that a core part of the game, Tanabe ended up retiring after the games critical failure.
>>738376567Nope. Cute cope.>>738376575A test for...?If you call all game consoles "A DS!!!!" your IQ is low. Simple as.
>>738376575Bot
>>738376527zoomers are starting to see the appeal in gen 5 and 6 games so its hard to say. i hear what youre saying though
>>738376425Man you are retarded.
>>738376605>Baseless claimsThats nice. I asked for proof tho.Why won't you supply any?
>>738376636He literally is arguing against the dictionary definitions of the words, why do you think otherwise?Don't be scared.
>>738376625>bots are buying passes nowjesus
>>738376639I'd rather you just remain blind than spoon feed you myself, just stating what happened, which has been confirmed to be the case from interviews.
Snoy mektdown, games looks good and is a good entry for newcomers. Buy it and we'll get a new original entries. Why would they waste ressource if you don't buy it?
>>738376662And you're ignoring the entire context of this discussion in order to hold out that you have a point which you don't, you're grasping at straws and the best part, it's over fucking semantics.
>>738376612Lol he fell for the bot reply, talk about low IQ
>>738376676If you can't prove your own claims true, you lose.Thanks for conceding. I accept your concession.
Tbf last time they tried something different you got adventures and assault and people hated them.
>>738376707Then argue your case right now, instead of crying like a bitch that "I'm ignoring you".This is your last chance.
>>738376736I only care enough to actually reply to you, but you can believe whatever you want, I was just telling you what was the case.
>>738376789>No proof >twice in a rowThis is why you lost.
>>738376736NTA but you are the laziest most useless faggot on the catalog right now, and there's a bunch of Steamfags getting ready to post their 'ick on the 'ontroller
>>738376764No, there's no discussion to be had, you're wrong because you want to use retarded false equivalences and ignore all context to make a complete non point.
>>738376827>No proof>3 times in a rowYikes...
>>738376821No, there is no win or lose, just people who know and those who don't, you're in the second camp.
>>738376845>"STOP IGNORING MY ARGUMENT!!!!!">Okay. Argue your case.>"...REEEEeeeeeeeEeeeeeeEEEEEeeEeeeee!!!!!!"Then you lose by your own admission. Stop crying.
>>738376345>Neat, now how do you intend to prove the part where you said they forced Retro to reuse what Bamco Singapore had.The developers revealed it in Famitsu.https://famiboards.com/threads/new-famitsu-interview-with-nintendo-staff-regarding-metroid-prime-4-beyond-its-development-history-origins-its-placement-within-the-timeline-etc.16091/>Development Team: The project changed development companies part way through, and was started over at Retro Studios. However, at the time, Retro Studios was not prepared to make a Metroid Prime game, so we had to start by putting the right structure in place for it. >At the start of this project, maybe due to the influence of The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, we noticed quite a lot of opinions on the Internet along the lines of “I want to try an open-world Metroid”.>Consequently, completing the game took longer than expected, and we could see that players’ opinions of open-world games were starting to shift, but nonetheless, (at the time we restarted development with Retro Studios) we couldn’t see ourselves going back to the drawing board after development had already been reset once, so we decided to stick to our guns and complete the game according to the initial concept. >complete the game according to the initial concept. https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/metroid-prime-4-devs-say-rebooting-the-game-again-was-out-of-the-question-despite-changing-tastes/>According to the Famitsu interview, Nintendo had already decided on the game’s story and gameplay involving psychic abilities before development was transferred to Retro Studios.>“Later, when development was transferred to Retro Studios, we asked them to add other ideas for psychic abilities.”Story, gameplay, open world shoe in, etc were all established at Bamco Singapore and Retro had to reuse all of it.>>738376639That other guy isn't me, but you're a retard for refusing to just google it yourself. All of this is public knowledge.
>>738376736>>738376821Eat a dick and get BTFO you fuckin' tard>>738376897
>>738376870>4 timesThis is why you can never win>>738376897No part of those articles says or confirms anon's claim that>they forced Retro to reuse what Bamco Singapore had
>>738376946Are you fucking retarded or brain damaged? What do you consider "reusing what Bamco Singapore had" if not the entire game design, story, and features of the video game that they stated were established before it was transferred to Retro?
>>738376928Where is the proof though?
>>738376897Why spoonfeed, it's better if you let these people stay ignorant and lash out, everyone else can see how retarded they are while they count their imaginary internet points.I'm going to hold to this forever but that faggot arlo was the biggest pusher for open world Metroid Prime and I'm glad he hated it, what a fucking loser, he's proof that listening to influencers as an exercise in failure.>he still doubles down
>>738377000In the post. You're fucking illiterate.
>>738376997Did they hold retro at gunpoint? Where does it say they were forced?
>>738376997You just need to show one interview where the developers confirm that they "were forced to work on Bamco's engine and files" and not their own.They do not admit to this anywhere in these articles.
>>738377073The fact that they couldn't make any creative decisions themselves??Do you think they could've just done whatever the fuck they wanted? Tanabe isn't even part of Retro and he leads the project. Jesus Christ you're dense.
Seems like a missed opportunity to add 4 player co-op. That shit makes campaigns twice as replayable
>>738377114That's not what "proof" is, little ESL.
>>738377031You're making assumptions not based in reality and presenting them as facts. That's the issue here. You can't support your claim because you based it on two pieces of evidence and made a conjecture but you fail to realize that its a conjecture and not a fact itself.
>>73836790664 was a remake of the SNES game in the same way every Mario game where Bowser kidnaps Peach is a remake of Super Mario Bros
>>738377101>"were forced to work on Bamco's engine and files">engine and filesThis was never stated. This is your own lunacy coming up with bullshit assumptions.I said "reuse what they had" which includes game design, story, and concepts. Never said shit about the files.
>>738377193>This was never statedHere's anon's claim.>>738376117>they forced Retro to reuse what Bamco Singapore hadLearn to read before you reply to me again.
>>738367906Holy shit, this series is never escaping SNES/64 hell, is it? At least when other Nintendo IPs are the same thing over and over again they bother to mix things up a bit so it's not so egregious but Starfox is seriously just stuck being literally the same game every single time until the heat death of the universe. MAKE AN ACTUAL NEW GAME FOR FUCK'S SAKE
>>738377120Don't worry, they spent all that development time on something very important: the ability to use Fox McCloud as your vtuber avatar.
>>738367906It's not the same game being remade, the universe is rebooted every time. It's more like how every Legend of Zelda follows the same general plot.
>>738377229What part of that sentence says engine and files? Show it to me.
>>738377183You do that every second of your life opening your mouth or typing a comment assuming you have any value to add to any discussion.
Star Fox 64 has only ever really had the one remake on 3DS. This is its first TV console remake. Zero deviated enough to be its own game.
>>738377260I accept your concession.
>>738377251So what were they forced to reuse?Don't be scared. We're so close to you actually answering a fucking question for a change.
>>738371568>they only bring back the IP to cater to furriesI wish. The characters are fucking ugly in this game.
>>738377292see>>738377193Because I already said what they reused. Learn to read before you reply to me again.
>>738375109Star Fox 64 isn't a basic rail shooter, it's one of the best if not the best.
Starfox (snes) was made to show the graphical power of the snes and SFX chip>Starfox (2026) is being made to show the graphical power of the Switch 2Not a true gimmick I guess, but still kind of funny.
>>738377240For other games in the series you can say this, but this is actually a true remake.
>>738377294I think they look cool though. (Not a furry)
>>738377031Yeah I'm convinced this retard is trolling, he got spoonfed twice and he's still doubling down on his retardation.
>>738377310>No answerThis is why you lost.Again.
>>738377328Panzer Dragoon Zwei is a much better game.
>>738377353The answer is there in the post. I literally stated it. I accept your concession, illiterate ESL.
>>738377343Akshully it's being made to show the vtuber rigs. Now YOU can a be star fox (realistic)
Is it releasing on Switch 1 or 2?
>>7383773832
>>738377379Copy and paste the answer into your next reply.What are you scared of? If you're right, winning should be easy for you.If you don't do this in your next reply, you are confirming you are a giga tranny.Agreed?
>>738377290Me too.
The entire reaction was rigged anyway. If they kept it more cartoonish people would spam the zootopia fox and call Nintendo "soulless hacks" but since they went more realistic it's the fucking fox from that wes Anderson movie.Just gotta learn to ignore these people. It's just like with the pragmata drama shit online. Outside of the internet there's no issue.
>>738377430I'll do it for you since you asked so nicely and you're too retarded to re-read the post, illiterate faggot.I said "reuse what they had" which includes game design, story, and concepts. Never said shit about the files.
>>738377378Then why hasn't it ever been remade
>>738377120>4 player co-op.t. Zoomer who never played star fox 64
>>738377475>I said "reuse what they had"You said "forced".And you can't confirm that fact.You lose.
>NOOO MIYAMOTO KEEPS RUINING GAMES WITH NINTENDO MANDATE>AIEEE IS THAT.. COMPLETE REDESIGNS OF MY BELOVED NINTENDO CHARACTERS?? FUCK YOU MIYAMOTO
>>738377507So now you immediately drop the bullshit assumption you made about the engine and files etc which were never stated and move the goalposts to something else. I accept your concession. Again.
>>738377503Starfox 64 has 4 player VS. No Co-op.
>>738377439I think the art style looks awesome, if it looked like the Galaxy movie I woulda been mad but this is very good.
I don't mind the new look, but they just move weird. They 110% used the Vtuber mocap thing they made for this for the lips instead of making custom animations that would fit the animal look a lot better. It's just uncanny, these animals have mouths that cover half their face and only move a tiny part of them to talk.
>>738377382But I want to be Rob or the Racoon from the training stage
>>738377503It's a remake from the ground up retard, it's absolutely possible
>>738377351He's just sperging out because he lost so hard.
>>738374576What I don't get is why Nintendo thinks this is the only story Starfox has to tell. Even if you hypothetically defend it by saying that SF releases are so infrequent that they need an introductory game each time, companies (like Nintendo) circumvent this with remasters/ports of earlier games or by just making the new game a good jumping on point by reintroducing elements while still delivering a new story. It's so utterly pathetic and shows their boundless lack of confidence in this franchise.
>>738377543>He doesnt know what "moving the goalposts" meansCute!Here's the first reply to your post where I asked you confirm your claim thay they were "forced" to do anything.Or is that "moving the goalposts" too?>>738376152
>>738377482Because they wasted their chance and (poorly) remade the first one, instead of the that was actually good.
>>738377482Because it's perfect.
I think they are doing more with this remake than they are letting on. >Dialog is different >More cinematics>The James prologMight be cope but it feels like there might be more too it
>>738377434Me first though.
>>738377620>>738377635https://store.steampowered.com/app/3417530/Panzer_Dragoon_Zwei_Remake/
>>738377550Not shit retard. I'm calling you out because there's no way in hell the Star Fox 64 level design can support fucking 4 players. You clearly never played the fucking game let alone the campaign.The amount of rework needed to even support 2 player co-op in the campaign would be astronomical that the game design philosophy itself wouldn't need to rebuilt.Dumbass
>>738377604You have nothing else left. You are now trying to argue semantics about somehow, Retro has free will against THEIR PARENT COMPANY. THE COMPANY THAT OWNS THEM.Oh yeah I'm sure they could say "fuck off Nintendo" when they told them to use the same story, game design, and open world segments.Shut up and take your L. You lost.>>738377596He literally has nothing else left but semantics. It's sad.
>>738377328>if not the best*ahem*
>>738377601literally no one has ever played the games for the story, no one actually likes the characters, and no, the opinions of furries do not matter
>>738377673>No proof that anyone was "forced' to do anything>For over an hourThis is why you lost.
>>738377639I'm intrigued by the cutscene where Fox seems to be yelling angrily at General Pepper because he was always pretty respectful towards him in the original game.
>>738377482Its literally being remade now.
>>738377673This reaction image you used really makes me want to sucker punch you in the mouth until all the teeth from your saggy gums are on the floor, i bet you're real fucking ugly as well probably carbon obese level fat.
>>738377659AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE thank you for bringing this to my attention
It's definetely going to flop in every way possible. I wonder if it'll at least beat Zero
>>738377439>If they kept it more cartoonish people would spam the zootopia fox and call Nintendo "soulless hacks"This. Had they actually gone with the movie design, everyone would just be going "NINTENDO IS LAZY AS SHIT THEY'RE JUST USING THE MOVIE DESIGNS NOW"It's completely fair to not like the new style, but people would be shitting their britches regardless.
>>738377704Rescuing Slippy or going through Solar is my guess
>>738377704Probably just a bad writing moment where team members infight over contrived nonsense to artificially drum up tension
>>738377701>boss asks you to do something>if you say no you're firedThat's called forced, retard.Do you want me to copy and paste the articles of the devs saying they told Retro to stick to the initial concept again? Or are you just going to keep trying to argue semantic over the word "forced" because you think your boss can't force you to do something?>>738377715Then it achieved it's intended effect in making you butthurt. Have another.
>>738377673Just take the L dude this is embarrassing for me and Im not even the guy youre responding to. Reading your posts is making me cringe.
I remember a time where this board called Nintendo games rehashes because they didn't drastically change between sequels.Now look how far we've come. The contrarian cause of /v/ has reached it's Aapex.
>>738377439It doesn't help that this design comes out right after we got an attractive Fox that everybody likes. He got premogged by himself.
>>738377701>>738377772samefag seething he lost hard
>>738377764>That's called forceIt's not force because you agreed to do it, for money. Contracts are not "force". Agreements are not "force".You have such poor reading comprehension it's unreal.
>>738377659Neat, itll probably be shit like their previous remake though. But here's hoping its good this time.
>>738377673He doesn't even have semantics because Retro aren't the core decision makers the EPD team that Tanabe headed were, so they were forced to make the game in that fashion because non compliance would have lead to a breach of contract and layoffs/other disciplinary action, basically enough to get them to do as commanded, which meets the standard for forced.
>>738377704Yeah, that caught my attention too. Not like Fox to lose his cool like that. I just hope they fixed some oversights in this one.>if you take the pure hard path, you fight the Wolfen II, which would be your first time meeting them at that point>The team acts like they fought them before anyway>if you decide to go to Titania even if you didnt let Slippy get shot down, game still has him get captured by the Titania boss
>>738377832>forcedNo proof has been posted that anyone was "forced" to to anything ITT.
>>738377753Pepper, calmly>That area's an oven! Don't go burning that Arwing. Be reasonable, Fox!Fox, screaming at the top of his lungs>I'll be careful.
>>738377349You are propagating the woke uglification of anthros in vidya
>>738367906>watch trailer>nostalgic hits
>>738377858Who knows how different the dialogue and cutscenes will end up being different. Stressing to Fox tk take a safer route, yapping back about time being of the essence
>>738377809You literally have nothing else at this point. You are trying to declare victory over semantics. You have shifted your goal posts so many times this is all you have left. I've already proven to you that the decision makers in charge of Prime 4 told Retro to reuse the same game design, story, and concepts. You already conceded that point. You are now trying to argue the semantics of whether or not performing your job or getting fired is "forced." Take your L and sit down.
>>738377749Precisely. Real Starfox fans are just happy to see fox again. And understand most of the time you're staring at the back of a fucking arwing.Its like if a new fzero game gave captain falcon a beard. Fzero fans would give zero fucks because it doesn't affect gameplay and you see his face for all of 10 minutes through out the campaign. Same exact thing applies to star fox.People are looking for any reason to bitch. Just look at Pic related where anon is pretending not to understand how currency rates work and that difference in economics drives how you price for different regions.It's a modern phenomenon where you can find people being willingly ignorant just to try and shit on something
>>738377874I’ll be her human partner, no problem
>>738375656>with no musicPAY UP TENDIE>>738375749>Gameboy and Gameboy ColorDS and 3DS are more like N64 and GC, dummy.
>>738377974You've said that already. Is the bot on repeat?You are defending an unwinnable position. I can keep laughing at you all day if you like, because you can never win.
>Andross won't have his way with me.>AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>738377985You'll also find they repeat the same shit like a mantra. Without even fact checking or taking a step back and asking "do I really give a shit?" they just want in on the shit flinging and parrot whatever is popular to bring up as a negative.Patheic these fags can't even create their own gripes.
>>738376897>we asked them to add other ideas for psychic abilitiesLike boots that let you stand on floating platforms or a visor that lets you scan things... Stuff you can only do with psychic powers that you couldn't do before in any other Metroid game!
>>738378094>of a very short gameThis criticism is silly for an arcade rail shooter, you're meant to keep replaying it for high scores/medals/different paths
>>738377690And people called me crazy when I told them Miyamoto was a /v/ regular
>>738378198Of course he is, he put Baneposting in Assault.
>>738377749Why are my only two options "literally the movie design" or "garbage redesign no one asked for?"
>>738378226The thrid option is "don't buy the game". you're allowed to pick option 3.
>>738377985>actually it's you amerimutts' faults that the game is more expensive for you!Least homosexual nintendie shill
>>738377992Forgive me master, I have to go all out just this once...
>>738378270The third option would have been "a redesign that doesn't suck and isn't just the movie design," dumbass.
>>738378430That's a 4th option.You really don't know how to count to 4?
>>738378550No, yours was 4. 3 was implied but you lacked the perception to see it in the subtext.
>>738377267Zero deviated all the way. Nothing in Zero besides the plot is similar to 64.
>>738378610My option was listed before yours.Yours is the 4th option.
>>738378632>oh it's this fucking idiot again
>>738378010DS and 3DS both exist in the stronger than 64 but weaker than GameCube space.
>>738378632Yours is option CD since both were in development at the same time.
>>738378714DS is absolutely not stronger than 64, they just did a good job covering it up in the couple 64 games they remade on DS.
>>738377669>zoom out camera slightly, have you be able to phase through teammate, add more enemies or weaken player vitalityNigga there are plenty of rail shooters with co-op. Quit sucking Miyamoto dong
>>738378836>it's not more powerful, it's just that they used magic to make the graphics better and add more content
>>738378836DS is absolutely stronger than 64.
>>738379063>>738379090The graphics aren't better, just different. They're worse but they were clever with the art style to hide they're worse. Then the "more content" is just minigames, a couple characters, couple stages. All stuff the N64 is perfectly capable of. I don't know why you even brought that up as an example of power. And don't get me started on Rayman DS, which inarguably looks worse so you must be thinking of the 3DS one instead of the DS one. It's an actual miracle they were able to pull off Rayman 2 on the DS at all, so I don't blame them, but still.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSgVHP1i0BkThere's a reason they had to wait till 3DS to remake the Zelda games and Star Fox 64. DS was NOT at the level of the N64.
>>738379445>it's not more powerful, it's just that they used magic to make the graphics better and add more content
>when Fox dragged his wing along the surface of Corneria's ocean, there were some water droplets that hit the cameradas it mane
>>738377709>>738377717>>738377828Admittedly I didn't know about it either until I saw that post earlier in the thread saying "those Panzer Dragoon remakes" and I thought "weird, I thought there was only the one" and then I found out about the Zwei remake. I've never actually played this series but seeing someone place Zwei above SF64 makes me curious, so maybe I'll give the games a go. Not sure what the problem is with the remake that I shouldn't play it, but it'd be far more convenient for me to get that than to fuck around with an emulator. But then again, I've been meaning to figure out Saturn emulation anyway so that I can play Burning Rangers, and having more than one Saturn game to play is a good motivator to do so. And who knows when this Zwei remake will even come out. Actually, any other Saturn recs while I'm on the subject? I really don't know much about the system.
>>738380192Why would there be a physical camera following behind that can get wet, it's a video game
>>738380614Same reason it happens in movies.It looks cool.
>>738380614maybe there's some great fox tracking camera, hence the hud
>>738380578Yabause core in RetroArch works fine for me, at least on android. Beetle or something is more accurate but doesn't upscale.
Falco’s new feet are disgusting
>>738367906The picture I saw on youtube there was a fifth guy that looked like Grover from Sesame Street that joined the Star Fox team. Where'd he go?
>>738380948At least they don't have robot legs anymore
>>738380975Back to the streets
How come no one is talking about Echoes of Wisdom anymore?
>>738367906They should have just done an HD remaster of the 3DS game, then made a sequel based on Star Fox 2 where instead of soley using map screen between missions, you freely fly and have to address problems at different corners of their solar system and go to different planets. Fully all-range mode, and there'd be squadrons of enemies all over space, and slowly taking over certain planets. Boom, perfect modern SF game.
>>738375113the british who are actually behind star fox. miyamoto a little con artist who wants credit
>>738367906Okay let's ignore the art style for the characters for a while. Is anything else about this game with should take note of of this remaster?Like the actual gameplay graphic updates or the new stuff being added ?
>>738381197You think Rareware, who made the worst Star Fox game ever, are "actually behind Star Fox"?
>>738381221>remaster?Like
>>738381275They gave her the best girl, gotta respect that
I hate that they changed the voices. cant just be me, right?
I just checked out the price online it's less than the new Yoshi game.
>>738381643Most of the voices were already changed in the 3DS one, I think the only 64 VA in 3DS was Fox.
>>738381657They're giving it budget pricing? I feel like that shoots down any hope there might be secret stuff that's not in the trailer
The multiplayer looks fun at least. Glad to finally get official Star Fox online multiplayer.
>>738381275argonaut you fucking twat
>>738367906I would've preferred a Star Fox 2 remaster, without the girls being turned into crack whores like Katt was in this fourth remake and the Multiplayer looks half-assed. Three stages, three objectives and can only play as Star Fox and Star Wolf? Wow, how very exciting.I ain't buying a whole new console for yet another remake with shitty gimmicks, no thanks.
>>738377439My first thought is the Tod
>>738368080yes, but star fox has a little more focus on story than mario, so getting 5 versions of the same general plot is annoying.imagine if they made two more star wars episode 7s.
>>738367906I genuinely regret buying a Switch 2. First time I've ever felt this way about a console.>Bananza was just okay and the DK redesign is shit no matter how many people try to gaslight me into thinking otherwise>Mario Kart World is a disappointment>Metroid Prime 4 is shit>Xenoblade X upgrade is shit>Another fucking Star Fox remake, this time with the most horrendous redesigns ever conceived. They genuinely have no ideas for this seriesYeah yeah the casual stuff is doing good. Good for Nintendo. I don't care.The only win for me so far was Kirby Air Riders because Sakurai is apparently one of the few people related to this company that still gives a shit. And even then it means that the next Smash will take years to arrive.
>>738382221This is more like if they kept remaking Empire Strikes Back. Which honestly they should do instead of new stuff
>>738367906>constantly trying new things>nintendolmao, pick one
>>738368080Star Foxs story is more relevant than Marios, and on top of that retelling the same story even in different ways still limits design. You're still going to see Corneria, Venom, Solar etc.Zero is, in practice, its own game in the same way Resident Evil 2 / 3 / 4 remakes, so I do think of the now 3 new versions of 64, it's the least frustrating in that context, but then it has its own shortcomings and still doesn't tread new ground for the series.It really should not be this hard to just make a new game that is mostly rail shooting and isn't the same story and locations AGAIN.
>>738367906>most remade game in their respective franchises>Got a weird 3DS remake>Dormant franchise for a long time but returning with this remake>New remake has more realistic graphics but art direction is slightly worse as a resultClose enough, welcome back, Snake Eater!
>>738382059Right? Why not a 2 remake? Or hell, Adventures or Assault even. Just not the one they've already remade five fucking times.
>"WOWZERS THESE REDESIGNS MIGHT LOOK OFFPUTTING BUT THEY SURE ARE FAITFHUL TO THE ORIGINAL SNES TITLE" *chugs entire bottle of onions while adjusting the position of the official Nintendo branded dildo in his ass*>What the SNES game actually looked like
>>738382546How do you drink a bottle of onions
>>738382464To be fair this is the first Star Fox in 10 years, I don't blame them for playing it safe with a remake of a game they know is popular instead of picking one of the more divisive ones.
>>738375109>I just dont think Star Fox is so good a Video Game that it deserved such reverence of such a faithful remake, let alone four of them. Like am I crazy here.Retarded logic, but there's more to the context here than simply "the game is that good" (even though it is).Nintendo just isn't willing to actually fork out for a riskier new game when they know the series legacy is so heavily specific to 64. Star Fox 1 does not have the same legacy and everything after 64 besides maybe Assault has a middling AT BEST reputation.Couple that with the fact the series genre has become increasingly hard to do on a large scale. Star Fox 64 is like an hour long, and realistically if you experiment you can do every level within like 3 - 4 hours even with no prior knowledge. Games like that don't exist in the AAA publisher space these days. Hell, Resident Evil 9 was just a bit over 10 hours for a casual first playthrough and people still mocked that when someone finished it quickly in 5 or so early on.Nintendo has no confidence, the genre has no proven space in the AAA market today and 64 is a shining gem relative to the tarnished legacy of the rest of the series. So the whole franchise exists in a space where we're just seeing 64 over and over and over again until Nintendo decides to pay up and try an actual new game in the series.
>>738382620In the last 6 years, almost all the Japanese developers do this when they want to revive their old franchises. they do a remake of one of the most popular title to see if there's interest, then they do more original games if it did enough
>>738382620>>738382690Fuck off with your excuses. Nobody wanted yet another 64 remake. I would rather Star Fox stay fucking rather than rehash the same game every single time. Put it back.
>>738382789>NobodyThe sales of the game will tell this. if it does well then you are wrong
>>738367906Turning them from cartoony to realisitc was such a weird decision. Falco literally looks like the hyper realistic angry birds meme
>>738382867The sales are going to be ass. Guaranteed.
>>738383023Funny, I seem to remember people saying the same thing about Switch 2. Nintendo has gone too far this time, nobody's gonna buy it. How'd that turn out?
>>738383120Maybe you're right, maybe the audience is too dumb to understand that they're being fleeced yet again. If people really wanted to see the cutscenes and shit, maybe they should just watching a goddamn letsplay instead of dropping hundreds of dollars on another Star Fox Zero 2026 edition.
>>738383242It's only $50...
>>738383360They're trying to entice people who were too nervous to get the Switch 2 because of the obscene cost of the console.
>>738367906beyond the awful designs and the fact that it's literally the same game again, it just kinda looks really bad, like the animations seem awful and the gameplay super slow
>>738367906i think it's pretty funny that the whole franchise is based around one game
>Uglier designs and worse voice acting Why not just play 64 if it's the exact same levels?
What do we think of the Adventure game rumor? He leaked this and the OoT remake days before Nate did.Perhaps it could be an idea to make traditional Zelda-like games again because Zelda is BotW now. Or maybe it's just more like Assault.
I had no idea zero was also a remake of 64
>>738383856Hard to say, Nintendo was also confirmed to have been throwing out fake rumors to try and weed out their leakers so some of them might not even be real. The new Star Fox was pretty much guaranteed the moment he appeared in the movie so that one was an easy guess.
>>738381531That was more from the influence of Miyamoto, the father of video games.
Why is Falco a manlet
>>738383910assault is also a remake of star fox 64
>>738382421Snake Eater?
>>738384185He's sitting down stupid.The real issue is why the fuck is the bridge of the Great Fox so dark.
>>738382690This. It's like how Capcom is giving us a new classic game after the X and BN collections sold so well I'm still mad
>>738384359Slippy is sitting down, too.She's not barely poking her head over the table
>>738383516>the obscene cost of the console.Nigga it's still the cheapest of the three AND it's essentially a portable PS4 Pro. You fucks are delusionally entitled, it's insane.
>>738384380Bro?https://store.steampowered.com/app/4223290/Mega_Man_Dual_Override/
>>738367906cry more
They already did the whole "high-production-value orchestral renditions of older music" decades ago.Why orchestrate it all again if you're going do it with samples?The renditions sound all-around worse than, say, their Assault counterparts.Do it better, or do something different.
>>738384390They are clearly on different planes, Slippy's seat is higher. Also Slippy is a man
>>738383948>The new Star Fox was pretty much guaranteed the moment he appeared in the movieQuite literally no one with a brain thought this. Real fans knew better since Nintendo hates Starfox, this 64 remake came out of nowhere.
>>738367906They should make star fox an online only pvpve open world looter shooter
>>738367906This game will be the only one that matters. Deal with it. If this is polished and good, no one will play the older versions again.
>>738384431Bro, go fuck yourself. I don't want ten years of almost nothing between meager classic games and literally nothing else. No ZX, no BN, no SF, no X, it's an absolutely pathetic showing especially after they went and made a big deal saying Mega Man would be flagship again. Capcom hates MM fans even more than Nintendo hates F-Zero and Starfox fans.
>>738384478Dude the Mario movie cameo was what was out of nowhere, THAT was what was surprising since Nintendo hates Star Fox. You have to be retarded to think they would do that if it wasn't building up to something. And what do you know, it was. I'm always right about everything.
>>738384613Who the fuck gives a shit about ZX, BN, and SF? How desperate have you got to be that you're nostalgic for any of those. X is the only one you have a point about
>>738384545Isn't Starlink already a thing?
>>738380578Panzer Dragoon SagaDragon ForceGuardian Heroes Gun GriffinGrandia Baroque
>>738384680>yes, I should go fuck myselfCool. Last (You) from me, you shitposting faggot.
This is going to be another Star Fox Zero.
>>738384616The movie cameo is easily explained with>Illumination is filled with normalfags, first movie was already filled with unnecessary references so of course the retards looked at Galaxy and decided to shoehorn in the Nintendo character known for traveling through spaceI'm convinced the only reason it wasn't Kirby is because he's getting a movie or two at some point as well.
>>738384996...The Star Fox Zero is right behind me, isn't it?
Starfox fans after years of bitching that they get nothing: Ugh no they gave us something, now we have to find a way to complain about that!
>>738385120I think bitching about this particular game is stupid because it looks great, but that logic wouldn't have flown back when the newest Metroid game was Federation Force. Imagine someone saying "Be thankful you got a Metroid game at all" about that game
>>738385120Funny thing is, this game has all the necessary ingredients to be THE Star Fox game. With this kind of polish, look, gameplay and actual multiplayer, why would you play any other game?
>>7383679063D could never be beaten.
>>738371208This is why 3D is the best one. They did not change audio, but vastly improved the textures and models.
do I get this physical or digital
>>738385481They DID change audio. 3D had an entirely new dub. It's just that it brought back some of the original voice actors and mostly maintained the original game's script. (However Falco doesn't confirm the existence of Einstein in the Star Fox universe anymore)There are examples of remakes that are like you described, like MGS Delta and the Oblivion one, but 64 3D is not one of them.
The realistic design makes his individual feather fingers look really unnerving
>>738385524Get a nso+ subscription and play the better n64 version
>>738367906I hope this fails and they remake it again for switch 3 or whatever. Just remake it every 5 years because at this point why not, ill be funny. At least they will be doing something because they sure arent making a new game by the looks of it
People are talking about the horrendous redesigns, but has anyone else noticed the bombs are incredibly lame now?
>>738385524In the US, some places price-match physical to digital.
>>738387074The bombs look like shit, the lasers look like shit, the barrel rolls don't even deflect projectiles, just fizzle them out. Only the explosions look good from a vfx perspective.
>>738385747Disney and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.
>>738367906>That's four times the same game has been remade.I think this new version is literally Star Fox 64, though. Not a new game with the same story, but literally the original game, with new assets and dialogue added to the original engine in real time.>"While stage layouts have been kept the same, [the visuals have received a major upgrade."
>>738367906>Nintendo, a company known for insisting on constantly trying new things??????You mean the company that gave us 2 decades of nsmb garbage? The one that hosts pokemon, infamously known for repeating the same formula over and over again? The one that makes smash bros which is just the same game with more characters tacked on for each new installment? The company that has been on a remake streak lately, selling roms as they were new games?
>>738375113Spaniards made the last good Metroid game.
>>738392089Dread was mid
>>738367906N64 games are goated, I'm glad they get remakes so more people can enjoy themThey fucked up some of those designs tho
>>738394185Start Fox 64 literally got recompile recently, you can play it on emulator at 60fps.
>>738367906wow this looks really bad and half assed. nintendo has lost the plotits like the last metroid all over again
>>738394384Hey Justin, your mom still won't buy you a Switch 2? That's rough man, don't worry about it she'll get you one for Christmas for sure.
>>738377669Cocksucker, if they had actually put the effort to make it possible the game would have been better for it
>>738370302>>Super Mario World has a different story and setting than the original Mario Bros., though. It isn't even in the Mushroom Kingdom.this. SMB2 (j) and SMB3 are remakes though following the star fox haters' logic
>>738371453If the lack of excitement in these new voices is considered acceptable then modern tastes have become ass
>>738371379>Bro you literally go to all the same planets in ZeroBro you don't do that, the audacity to try and pass that off as true and say something as gross as "I know YOU haven't played it" fuck you retard. I know YOU were filtered by it.
>>738371459>Why play it? It failed to replace the originalBecause it's a SEQUEL
>>738372960YOU ARE DESCRIBING A REBOOT
>>738373462>Zero Mission>Is nearly 1 to 1fuck you, retard
Why do people care about the story being told? Snes, 64 and zero and 3 completely different games. If assault had the same story it would still be an irredeemable piece of shit.
>>738373839>slop released 30 years later retroactively makes these two classics le badu r an faget
>>738367906Hype as fuck. I'm buying a switch 2 just for this. Go Broncos.
>>738400237>2026>not having a Switch 2couldnt be me
>>738400338Not all of us are rich sorry.
>>738400237me before hearing the VAs
>>738376365The difference is there's like 5 games exclusive to the N3DS and the GBC has over 500 games that are exclusive and don't work on the original Gameboy.
>well Zero is not techinally a remake because This pendantry isn't going to work on anyone because it fails to address people's core issue, and that is Star Fox has essentially been in limbo for 20 years re-treading the same ground over and over again in overly similar games. It doesn't really matter if it's technically a remake, reboot, reimagining, or rehash. People were also hard against the NewSoop era of Mario, even though those were technically different games.
>>738400871It's only half a grand, you can save that up in a year with zero judgement.
>>738401950>$499.99WHAT!?!?! Fuck that.
In related news: Japan suspects machine TL:https://x.com/_JZA70_/status/2052157253093117953The original indeed did that scene better indeed:https://x.com/1145141919KYN/status/2052349493249724720
>>738402143...and stock holders are reportedly demanding a price increase.
>>738402352Fuck them. I hope they lose everything. Imagine paying $500 for a console in 2026.
>>738402143cheapest console, if that's pricey then so long gay bowser
>>738402143You can get it for 450 without the Mario kart virus attached to it.
>>738382568https://youtu.be/J1ns_U9IbFU?si=oZEuS05Jggn3Egmh&t=215
>>738402626Fiat has devalued massively. That's all.
Not gonna lie It looks cool Not a fan of the animalistic chara design tho
>>738402919Switch 2 without Mario Kart is like pizza without cheese.
>>738403713which is valid
One thing I will say is that I am happy they swung big on the aesthetics instead of trying to do a Link's Awakening type thing.
Nintendo is creatively bankrupt. Nostalgia company for fat gen X and millennial faggots.
>>738404548Gen X and millennials are going to become the new boomers except instead of fucking up the economy they're going to fuck up the entertainment industry.
>>738367906I would be hyped for this, but Nintendo using this IP for the first time in a couple gens is not enough for me to end my Nintendo boycottI hope one day Nintendo either goes private, or loses enough money where they have to go back to actually thinking about and trying for consumers, and not fucking shareholders. I'd gladly get a S2, KARs and that game same day
>>738404950>they're going toThey already have.
>>738405143My point still stands.
>starfox adventure>the game hated by everyone>is the only unique game in the franchisethe absolute state
>>738407103that's because it wasn't really a starfox game to begin with
>>73840710364fags hate new things
The designs grew on meI dunno man...I grew up with 64. I fucking love it to death. I might buy a switch 2 for it...fuckEspecially if that OoT remake and 3D Mario rumors are true for this year
>>738407282>buying a switch 2 to play the same game you've already played again with worst visuals and worse voice actingStar Fox 64 got decompiled ages ago. You can play the original game on emulator at 60fps at high resolution for free.
>>738407529b-but what about the bonus james mission
>>738407609That's most likely just an intro cutscene.
>>738407282They're dogshit
>>738385747I like it. If a bird is going to have hands, then its fingers are going to be feathers.
>>738385120Yes we should be grateful to receive the exact same levels with a new coat of paint.
reminder nintendo threads are just filled with the same anons lurking every nintendo threads, while releasing their 3 thousand bots to spam "eric" or calling people brownoid which is kind of ironic, since it pretty much factual that most nintendo retards are usually Europeans that are unfit as fuck like harman smith>inb4 Snoy you're all jobless and have nothing in life besides defending everything nintendo does on 4chin.com
>>73841068164fags are going to be the death of this series.
>>738411637Bitch nobody who grew up playing 64 wanted every sequel to be the same thing over and over
>>738411637>man this game is very fun, I hope they make more sequels of it>this is the same game I played with a coat of paint, still fun>why am I talking to dinossaurs I want airwings again>it's the same game I played please make something else>make it stop
>>738411756You're lying and you know it.
>>738407529You worry about your own hide
>>738384359They’re probably going for this look, though some blue lights would have been cool.
So do humans exist in Star Fox?
Don't care, I'm still buying it.
>>738385120>Ugh no they gave us somethingWhere? All I see is another overpriced port of 64, a game I can already play for free.
>>738413615Tranny decomps are a downgrade.
>>738413596>frogposter>taking pride in being a droneShock. Gasp.
>>738413431Maybe.
Are there any pics of the new Wolfen? If it's not even half as cool as Assault's this sucks.
>>738367906Since a zelda clone is the wrong choice for this series, What kind of non flying spin-off would you make for Star-Fox?Personally I would go for a third person survival horror game, inspired by shit like RE4 and Dead Space.Don't answer no spin off's cause the answer to that would be a game made by Project Aces
>>738367906And how many times has Super Mario Bros been remade?
>>738401876Starfox is a railshooter, cope.
>>738415102Miyamoto-sanYou don't need to rehash the Lylat Wars to make a rail shooter. You can make a sequel that doesn't re-tread the same ground again while also keeping the iconic gameplay intact. It is possible.
>>738415543He needs to commit seppuku
>>738407609Mission? That was a cutscene, you'll get no new missions and like it
>>738414343>non flyingJust do Sin & Punishment style with Fox running instead of flying.If you meant without it being a rail shooter at all, do something like Star Wars Bounty Hunter with Fox and the others doing various mercenary contracts with different weapons.
The timeline ended with command and we're not going back to dinosaur planet.>what about starfox 2?64, command, and zero already covered scraps and pieces of it.
>>738416986honestly if they decoupled the mouse aim to allow gyro, this shit would straight up be sin and punishment 2 controls
>>738418661They should just retcon Command being an ending. All of the endings were cringey "what if" scenarios anyway.
>>738407103It wasn't meant to be a Starfox Game to begin with; it was made that way for brand recognition.
Seems perfect to round out an initial library. Hardly worth getting a system for but a no-brainer for people who have one already, especially if it's only $40 digital. Having mouse aim and hopefully a viable and omnipresent cockpit view are big changes imo, as is the online multiplayer.
>>738371568>Zero was a new game, not a remake. It's as much of a remake of 64 as that is to the SNES original: tons of new gimmicks, same fucking plot.
>>738367906Have some OC
>>738419672different plot, different levels, new gimmicksYUP I am thinking new game
>>738415543>You can make a sequel that doesn't re-tread the same groundYou didn't boughted it
>>738371208At least the Gigaleak brought us high quality voice rips from the N64 version, forever grateful for that.Can htey be modded onto the PC port anyways?
>>738385120HOW could the GAMERS be so ENTITLED!?
>>738421136It's the NSMB of Star Fox. Like yeah it's a different game, but why play that gimmicky shit when 64 executes the same premise several times better?
>>738421925NSMB DS is probably one of the best Mario platformers. You have no idea what you are talking about.
>>738421925>>738421992As a Star Fox fan I have to say I'd rather play NSMB than Zero. Like, multiple times.
>>738420937Saved>>738421136I did, I even managed to wrap my head around the dual screen gimmick. It still mostly retreads the same ground as 64, it was a soft reboot.
How hard is it for them to just make a true Starfox 64 sequel? Just want to play some new SF64 levels and bosses. It's nearly been 30 years FFS
You get Super Mario Bros., Super Mario Bros. remake in All-stars, Super Mario Bros. Special and Super Mario Bros. Deluxe. Also count New Super Mario Bros.
>>738423235>Also count New Super Mario Bros.Why?
>>738423235You also get SMB2, 3, and World on the same systems.
Is Event Horizons worth it?
>>738420937Haha
>>738423235>Super Mario Bros. SpecialUnofficial sequel handled by a third party, not the same>Super Mario Bros. DeluxeEnhanced port, not a remake>Also count New Super Mario Bros.RetardationNot really a valid comparison to Star Fox's situation
>>738423235Dude, the Star Fox franchise has roughly 10 games.50% of the franchise is basically just the same game, with the same story.Be for real.
>>738425928This. And that's if we're counting Star Fox Guard as its own game, which was a pack-in title to make Zero look more attractive on retail shelves. It's a side mode on an extra disc.
>>738424968You tell me: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty5rrDLpaikThough the Optimization seems like ass.
>>738375109I know I'm 16 hours late, but lol no. Omega Boost and Zwei are not better than SF64.
>>738382275As if the sequel trilogy isn't just Empire Strikes Back remade three times
>>738375109>but then further evolved into Panzer Dragoon and games like Omega Boost but then died off when we were of good 3D flight games like Ace Combat>like Ace CombatAce Combat fags are really starting to get on my nerves.
>>738421925You can't shoot with such precision in 64, and it has better graphics and more levels.
>>738428492>more levels???Okay, sure, lets buy that revisiting some of the levels to do Star Wolf fights or extra routes means something, what are you mostly doing in these extra levels? Turret section shooting, piloting the godawful fucking Gyrowing or running around with the transformed Arwing, and other gimmick horseshit. More isn't better, especially when all this crap becomes mandatory padding so the game isn't over so quickly.Sometimes you just got to fucking let shit be simple.
>>738367906-Star Fox>A Fox in space.-Star Fox 64>A reboot of Star Fox. Retains the skeleton of the original story, but adds to it considerably, also using some ideas and/or characters originally conceived for the then unreleased Star Fox 2.-Star Fox 64 3D>Remaster of Star Fox 64. Adds virtually nothing.-Star Fox 0>Second reboot of Star Fox. Has a brand new story, but borrows heavily from Star Fox 64's version. Brings in some elements from Star Fox that had been left behind. Brand new levels, and uses more mechanics originally conceived for Star Fox 2.-Star Fox Switch>Straight up a remake of Star Fox 64. Uses the same story, the same levels, and the same layouts for those levels. Dialogue is new, but essentially the same. New cut-scenes added to further flesh out the story. New challenge mode.
>>738429301>>more levels>???Are you really so up your own ass you genuinely believe it's the same game. Just shut the fuck up if you aren't knowledgeable.
>>738430585As the one you're immediately responding to but wasn't part of the prior chain, I say that because yeah, it may be "more" and different, but it didn't really add anything more. There are people who will like Star Fox Zero's new ideas and the gamepad aiming controls, but most folks fucking hated it and at the end of the day, different still ends up mutilating prior games that did the ideas better with a fresh coat of paint on top that tries super hard to recreate, reference, homage and ultimately redo 64 anyway.
>>738371208Even without the compression (the HQ voice acting was acquired from the gigaleak) it still sounds way better than whatever this shit is
>>738367906>64 is pretty much a perfect gameIt gets very repetitive after the 6th planet and the final level and boss are bullshit.If we're also going to be honest 64 is the ONLY good star fox game and the fact Nintendo have to keep remaking it proves they can't recreate the winning formula. Just look how they messed up StarFox Assault.Does anyone want this shit remake of a remake of a remake?
>>738431307Weird that they used the regular designs for these but it was a good call
